The Top 5 Types of Welding Rigs (service trucks, pipeliners, trailers, etc)

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  • @JonDingle
    @JonDingle 5 місяців тому +13

    Its tricky running anything commercial these days here in the UK, the government and civil service don't like the self employed and small business so they introduce really awkward regulations a bit like Canada. I run out of a Ford Transit van because it rains so much here in the UK. Top video young man!

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  5 місяців тому

      Yes the regulations really hurt the little guys. I love the new ford vans! If I was going to buy a new vehicle for welding it would 100% be a van.

    • @nathankisner8332
      @nathankisner8332 4 місяці тому +1

      It coming to the US soon. Most dont see it yet, but the ones who do, will win.

    • @jessihawkins9116
      @jessihawkins9116 2 місяці тому

      @@JTwelder.how do you put your gas powered welder and compressor in a van?

  • @Weld99
    @Weld99 7 місяців тому +11

    In Ontario if a trailer has a welder/ compressor and doesn't carry anything else its not legally a trailer and doesn't require a plate, insurance or commercial sticker. So thats a plus side of one of those smaller set ups

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  7 місяців тому +1

      Yes that’s true I believe they’re considered “towable tools” the trailer can only be the size of the footprint of the tool and carry the tool only and nothing else. Pretty handy for moving welders, compressors or water pumps around without any bullshit!

  • @Padoinky
    @Padoinky 9 місяців тому +4

    Simpler is better - less to think about is better - neighbor here in North Texas relocated from San Diego, is a retired naval vet of some specialized nature (never wanted to inquire)… has a beautiful F350 4 door dually rig - watched the build of his rig - diamond plate and custom bed/rig - must do really well as he lives in a +$1-31MM home value gated neighborhood…

  • @nancypelosi480
    @nancypelosi480 15 днів тому

    ive had em all.
    dually cab an chassis with flat deck/pto is my favorite. narrow back wheel base on dually is just wonderful.
    ontario born and raised

  • @williamthomas9463
    @williamthomas9463 10 місяців тому +7

    As far as On Fire Welding (I love that guy, by the way) running another inverter welder off of, while simultaneously welding with his engine driven welder; I have run my Lincoln Power Mig 210 MP off my Lincoln Ranger 305G while simultaneously welding with it using my suit case wire feeder. Both running .045 Lincoln Ultra-Core. Not hard wire. Not only will it do it, it does it well.

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  10 місяців тому +3

      Wow I’ll have to try that off my ranger 305! I didn’t know a ranger could handle that!

    • @williamthomas9463
      @williamthomas9463 10 місяців тому +1

      Lincoln said that it couldn’t but I hooked it up at my suppliers store to prove it to them.

    • @scrapmanindustries
      @scrapmanindustries 9 місяців тому +2

      If your Lincoln says 9kw power while welding like Miller does with their trailblazer saying 11kw power while welding you would have enough to run an inverter type machine off the 220v while welding. My generator only puts out a rated 6800 continuous watts and I’m using a trans pocket 180 and Lincoln 210mp all day. It powers the trans steel 2200 also but that machine can outdo the generator when you start turning it up. I think if your running .9mm solid wire at around 240 ipm the 210mp only needs like 2500 or so watts. @@JTwelder.

  • @maritimemisfits3360
    @maritimemisfits3360 3 місяці тому +2

    Yes we charge more than welders, my truck was 60K used, carries 150k of tooling and yes even a welder, torches, and arc gouger. If your buying one go F550 or larger, 5000lb 21ft crane, and 70CFM compressor minimum

  • @richardvillanueva559
    @richardvillanueva559 10 місяців тому +7

    Solid information appreciate your efforts

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  10 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching!

  • @riverflyswatter
    @riverflyswatter 10 місяців тому +17

    The stealth camper trailer. The old ones are cheap. gut the nasty stuff. (Furniture etc) strap a bike to the back and sham on.

  • @phillipchambers8487
    @phillipchambers8487 10 місяців тому +3

    @JTwelder, IDK when was the last time you priced a 2011 Super Duty even with the Gas Engine in it, in the U.S. but I can assure you that you couldn’t touch that Pickup for 5k$ these days. You might get one from the RustBelt that is totally ate up with Cancer and had 300-400k miles on it for that price. But if you find one that has 100k or less miles, and a good solid Body, something that’s gonna hold up to being used as a Work Truck for at least 2 to 3 years (until you can Bank some $$$ and buy something newer/more dependable) then you can bet on spending 20k$ and up. Truck Prices have went thru the Roof in the last 2-3 years basically ever since Covid hit. Not that everyone needs this, but a new Ford F-350 Crew Cab 4x4 even modestly optioned is gonna cost you 75k$ and up. That same Truck with a Powerstroke Diesel & Dually Wheels and a nice Interior option is 100k$+, and it’s not just Ford, Dodge & GM are the same price point comparably optioned.
    Band it’s not just the New Trucks, the used Truck Market is worse in the U.S. has actually gotten worse than the new ones. For about 2 years when the supply chain was screwed from Covid, Dealerships were buying back peoples Used Trucks for as much & more than what they paid for them New just to have an Inventory of Trucks on their Lot, because they couldn’t get new ones from the Factory.
    My Ford Dealer called me at the end of 2022 and offered me $60k for my 2015 Dually Crew Cab F-350 Lariat 4x4 Diesel, and they knew I only paid 50k$ for it when I bought it from them in 2016 used with 12k miles on it.
    My Salesman told me he already had it sold to an entire list of people. They had people on Lists that were just begging for these style Trucks because they weren’t any new ones coming for who knew how long.
    I turned them
    Down Flat on the spot, because I knew I could not replace it. They had at least 50 people that would have gladly gave them 75k$ for that Truck and I had put 150k miles on it.
    If I had it all to do over again I would have sold it, and just done without it. I had an old beater Truck in the driveway, plus I was hardly using it.
    I was busy running my Trucking business as had the doors to my Weld Shop closed at the time. New ones started flowing again by Spring/Summer of 2023. Use they were 90-100k$ but I would’ve had a 60-65k$ down payment.
    I had a lot of Friends who made Bank of their Trucks during that time.
    Right now the older Trucks are extremely expensive a 1994-1997 Ford Super Duty with 7.3 Diesel 4x4 with around 100k miles will cost you 50k$ in the US, this is for one in Great Condition and trust me there are a lot of them out there, more than I ever imagined. A 1970-1978 Ford F-250 or F-350 4x4 no rust, gas engine in good shape is 25k$ find one that someone has done the conversion and installed a 1st gen 12v Cummins into it, and the Price just doubled if not
    More.
    Just saying, idk where you’re getting these cheap prices on Trucks because they don’t exist in this Country right now, and people are used to paying it now, so I don’t think they are ever coming back down.

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  9 місяців тому

      I’m not gonna read all that but I just checked facebook marketplace for 2 min in my area and found over 10 2011-16 f250s between $5k-11 all with under 200k miles. I bought my f350 for $11k usd as well and it was road ready.

    • @seyelk59
      @seyelk59 3 місяці тому

      ​@JTwelder. Yeah, I've been looking on fbmarketplace and I've seen tons of trucks for 5-11k

  • @danielrumbo343
    @danielrumbo343 3 місяці тому +2

    They mis 🇲🇽 also part of North America! Nice viedeo

  • @bubblef8073
    @bubblef8073 7 місяців тому +5

    I have a high roof Van

  • @hubertrobinson8825
    @hubertrobinson8825 10 місяців тому +1

    Personally i prefer diesels trucks but my welding business does not require a diesel welder so i run an f250 with my 225 lincoln welder for the ease of filling at the pump but you made a lot of sense

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  10 місяців тому +3

      I prefer driving my diesel way more than my gasser because it hardly ever shifts or revs high going up hills and overall it’s just smoother.
      That being said I hardly ever tow so from a financial standpoint I have no business driving newer diesel truck because the gasser does everything I need it too at an overall lower operating costs which in the end makes me more money.

  • @chrisweldz1122
    @chrisweldz1122 10 місяців тому +3

    thats a good videon explaing the types of rigs, whats your perosnal opionion of running a welding rig off a 2002 honda mini van like I do. It has my little business name and number on it. The reason I'm using it like that is I don't have money to buy a diesal truck yet but the van is reliable and has a gasoline V6 and selling it would mean I'll only get 500 dollors or less for it so I thought I could profit from it by using it for my welding services than selling it for almost nothing . All I did was remove the middle seats cleared stuff out and it fits a predator 8750 generater, a welder, the small oxy-acetylene kit, grinding discs and power tools and alot more space. I' glad I made that decision and will continue to use even after buying my diesal truck down the road as a spare rig.

    • @richardvillanueva559
      @richardvillanueva559 10 місяців тому +1

      You will prevail 💪

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  10 місяців тому +2

      If it’s working for the kind of work you do then perfect! Only upgrade when you need it!

    • @chrisweldz1122
      @chrisweldz1122 10 місяців тому

      @@JTwelder. awesome then thanks I’ll see in the future

  • @adamswelding5052
    @adamswelding5052 8 місяців тому

    I started with a 1990 f350 dually and it had so much maintenance on it it was down more than it was on the road and it cost me so much more than just money. I ended up having to close up shop for a couple years until I was able to get something else better and more reliable(current truck 1993 dodge d250) gets way better mileage and I’m actually starting to pull in work again! I say use what you have first off but aim for something reliable for most people doing this professionally is say you will be good with a 3/4 ton truck and a skid or a full 1ton and a dedicated bed

    • @adamswelding5052
      @adamswelding5052 8 місяців тому

      I also disagree with the you have to have money before starting your business and I’ll be doing a series soon on re-starting mine back up and how I am having to do it with under $500 in tools and the types of jobs I look for.

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  8 місяців тому

      Yep you’re definitely right! If your trucks down then you’re losing money.
      You can definitely start up a business with $500 but it’s gonna take a long time to build it up. I think it’s much more efficient to go work for someone else and learn on their dime then spend $20k and fully gear up a truck. Now you can pretty much take on anything that someone throws at you and you’ll grow your business way faster than starting out with $500 even including the time you spend working for someone else to make that original investment.

  • @CN-Seamless
    @CN-Seamless 10 місяців тому +1

    Great video, would love to get your thoughts on how to setup at Tacoma for just plasma cutting and oxy-fuel!

  • @miceskin
    @miceskin Місяць тому

    What about a Uhaul style moving truck?

  • @Dibulok
    @Dibulok 5 місяців тому

    Nice video, one question. Why don't you guys use a van instead? Like a Mercedes Sprinter, Iveco, WV? In Europe all welders and mechanics use them.

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  5 місяців тому

      I forgot to mention vans. Very few guys have them but ideally I would like to run a van.
      Up until recently in North America the only option you had for a 4x4 van was the Mercedes sprinter so there wasn’t much for a used market and since it’s German there’s not many shops that know how to work on them properly. Now that ford and ram are making 4x4 vans I expect to see a lot more of them being used for a welding set up.

    • @nathankisner8332
      @nathankisner8332 4 місяці тому

      The US is weird. It is more about what you look like, than what you can do. You must have the diesel 4x4 with Lincoln to be part of the cool kids.

  • @adkinsgaming1351
    @adkinsgaming1351 3 місяці тому

    i have a intresting question does anyone ever run a welding rig out of a van? because me and my work partner are thinking about getting a ford transit and starting are welding company out of it

  • @jrwelding6908
    @jrwelding6908 10 місяців тому +3

    Nice video pipeliner here

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  10 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching glad you liked it!

  • @Noobdriver99
    @Noobdriver99 9 місяців тому

    I’m running a half ton with a sa200 and a job box

  • @poopfart1685
    @poopfart1685 2 місяці тому

    Why would you need a crane on a rig? I’ve never seen that before, maybe it’s just a Canada thing because I’ve haven’t seen that in the us

  • @okiedoke6373
    @okiedoke6373 6 місяців тому

    In Texas I haven't had any issues with trailers one is a utility bed which you have left out homemade trailer that is my favorite the storages ample the only part that I can identify with is lack of space on job sites the job sites that I work or either a building going up in which I'm running the job or residential a lot of structural steel going into residential homes now and they always make it a priority to let me get into wherever I need to get whether I'm just bobtail or with a trailer

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  6 місяців тому

      Way different where I’m at. With the legal requirements of a trailer plus the inconvenience of hauling it around it makes its way more of a pain than running a rig.

  • @clemmersmetalworx7012
    @clemmersmetalworx7012 6 місяців тому

    Dodge 3500 dually here. Cummins. Would never go smaller for me . Mobile job shop . Actually looking at 5500's and service body's for more tool storage.

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  6 місяців тому

      If your carrying so many tools that you need a full sized service body than a diesel if probably not bad.
      I try to use a smaller truck and only carry the basic tools I regularly need for welding and if I need anything else I plan ahead and pack it. This keeps my profit margins way up because I’m not spending money on a huge truck and expensive tool storage systems and instead I can invest in getting multiple simple trucks going and hopefully employees.

  • @FS_Timelaps5876
    @FS_Timelaps5876 10 місяців тому

    Nice video Keep up the good work I want to do this someday

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  10 місяців тому

      Thanks, glad you like it!

  • @cat-pl7ey
    @cat-pl7ey 10 місяців тому

    I live in usa looking to do samething I lived up state ny long time was in texas fl now let me know best at older age.

  • @laurencemathewriggs8023
    @laurencemathewriggs8023 9 місяців тому

    So did u teach your self welding or did u take training.

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  9 місяців тому

      I learned the basics on the job from other welders and self teaching. I learned open root pressure welds by using a practice booth in my union hall.

    • @laurencemathewriggs8023
      @laurencemathewriggs8023 9 місяців тому

      The reason I ask is I learned my self as well. I'm working in a shop that builds fireplace . I mig weld all day. But I would like to get certified so I could go work other places to expand my money making. Also from Vancouver island. Would u have any suggestions

  • @Charles-oe4kj
    @Charles-oe4kj 10 місяців тому +2

    If you getting a 4500 or bigger get a diesel most of em have v10s and there killer on gas its ridiculous even if your not towing just go for diesel

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  10 місяців тому

      Thats what I would think but believe it or not most of the 5500 box trucks you see on the road are the v10 gassers. They burn way more fuel loaded up than even a welding rig would.
      Apparently a lot of the freight companies did the math and actually found that the gassers are more profitable for them on a 5500 platform because of the extra payload capacity and maintenance costs being lower on the gassers.

    • @Charles-oe4kj
      @Charles-oe4kj 10 місяців тому

      @@JTwelder. maybe for the bigger company that can right off there taxes but for smaller ones there's no point going to gas either way maintenance is going to be about the same just a tad bit more expensive on the diesel

    • @williamthomas9463
      @williamthomas9463 10 місяців тому +1

      I went from a diesel F-550 with a 14’ low-profile utility bed to a V-10 F-550 with the same bed. Not as much power but it has enough. And yes, I do tow trailers even though the truck weighs 17,000 lbs by itself. I now have a truck that works for me instead of me working for the truck. I will NEVER own another diesel truck that has any kind of emissions control systems on it, EVER!

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  10 місяців тому

      @@williamthomas9463 that’s why I figured a lot of fleet purchasers were going to the gas v10s. My father in laws 6.7 f250 was at the dealer for 6 weeks just because of a def system failure. Can’t run a business when your truck is broken because of something stupid like that.

    • @williamthomas9463
      @williamthomas9463 10 місяців тому +1

      Exactly! My diesel blew the head gaskets at 18,000 miles and continued to go to the shop, on average, every six months until I wrecked it at 165,000 miles. Felt like a fool for wrecking it but it turned out to be a blessing. One time, it cost me over $12,000 to fix it.

  • @Baconleader1046
    @Baconleader1046 4 місяці тому

    tacoma s payload capacity is 1450 pounds im talking about legal side

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  4 місяці тому

      @@Baconleader1046 legal there’s not one payload rating for each model of truck. The only way to know your legal payload is scale your truck then subtract that number from the door jam sticker GVWR whatever is left over is your payload. It’s different from truck to truck depending on what options are on it and how’s it’s configured .

  • @MountainBilly76
    @MountainBilly76 9 місяців тому

    Hey, im looking into pipeline welding, but i don't know if i should just start off with going to Welding School or just start by getting on the job site as a helper
    I know this is kinda out of the blue, but do you think you could give me some advice on pipeline welding

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  9 місяців тому

      I’ve never worked on a pipeline before so I’m not sure how to get into it. My best guess is to talk to the companies and see what they say about getting hired on as a helper.

  • @ardennielsen3761
    @ardennielsen3761 9 місяців тому

    its not hard to get a class 3 registration on a vehicle, like as is... I didn't even ask for a commercial "class 3" registration but was just given it. so the GVRW on the car is 5780lb... it has a 660lb floater axle 100lb empty slip tank and a custom class3-4 hitch so it weighs nearly 4800lb dry 5k with 35gal fuel and that hitch with the floater is fine for 700lb... the other 80 is the tires on it as is cant, would have to put 6ply truck tires on it. when a non floater axle lets go on the road... everything is wright off, just like the 7kw generator i salvaged for the power side... 10kw triton generator setup... 4.6 V8 sits at 20-30kw off a 2000rpm idle in neutral, not the 3500-4600rpm the signal cylinder 380gx was... tho the engine on the car idling is loudly droning hundred feet away or so. thoughts of bigger service rig trucks... have the generator running off the crank shaft of the truck on the vehicles nose? small car did that first, but if that's a 12.7L cat 300amp wouldn't do much to stop it like a in box unit that needs to idle up.

  • @mattbowser5274
    @mattbowser5274 10 місяців тому

    A tub is just a mother to worl out off an to tall reach

  • @genecoppedge5972
    @genecoppedge5972 5 місяців тому +1

    So you haven’t driven a service or welding truck with a diesel engine but all through your video you’re just completely against a diesel engine? Some of these welders make some damn good money, so why wouldn’t they buy whatever they want?

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  5 місяців тому

      I’ve never driven a fully loaded service truck with a crane and everything. I’ve driven a few f550 welding trucks both diesel and v10 gas.
      The whole point of this video is talking about what is the most profitable option. If someone wants to drive a diesel truck they totally can but it may not be the most profitable setup.
      I drive my trucks to make money so I’m gonna pick whatever cost me the least money in overall ownership and gets the job done.

    • @genecoppedge5972
      @genecoppedge5972 2 місяці тому

      @@JTwelder. You’re trying awfully hard to convince me your way is the only way, while telling everyone else they’re wrong.

  • @EricCampbellUAV
    @EricCampbellUAV 9 днів тому

    i’ve worked for dozens of companies that use a welding machine everyday. they all tow a trailer. mounting one on a truck is stupid

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  9 днів тому

      @@EricCampbellUAV maybe for the type of work you were doing that was the best option. As I mentioned on long term projects like structural builds and plant shutdowns being able to tow a trailer in and park it on site for an extended amount of time is really nice.
      Now if you go out to the Alberta oil sands or the Texas oil refineries and pipelines you’ll see that 99% of welders are running the welder on the back of the truck. That’s because for that type of work it’s the best option.
      I weld mostly in equipment yards and on nickel mine sites. Having a trailer would be extremely inconvenient. Another contractor I work with at the mines brought in a welding trailer recently to try it out, within one week they decided to move everything into the bed of a truck because the trailer was to inconvenient.

    • @EricCampbellUAV
      @EricCampbellUAV 9 днів тому

      @ it’s not inconvenient. you just need more experience backing up a trailer with such a narrow wheelbase

  • @NTM2009
    @NTM2009 10 місяців тому

    Some good information but a lot of wrong information for ontario. If a trailer is owned by you and only used for your own use without any compensation it can be licnesed personel use and does not require any commercial paperwork. Also any pickup truck can be licensed personal use in ontario as long as it still has pickup box and only used for your personal use. Any pickup or trailer used for business is commercial regardless of weight.
    The listed payload on door sticker will never put you over GVWR, but it doesnt matter in ontario as you register for your weight when licensing vehicle. If you want more info on commercial and personal use laws in ontario let me know. I have dozens of papers on it from mto and dealt with it for many years

    • @JTwelder.
      @JTwelder.  10 місяців тому

      You need to pay attention before you comment! At 7:06 I said if you’re using a trailer for personal use you don’t need anything BUT soon as you use it for your business you have to get everything commercially registered just like you stated.
      Also most door stickers on trucks only state your gwvr as well as axle ratings and not your payload. And yes the payload capacity can put you over the gvwr.
      I use to have a Silverado that had a gvwr of 7100, the truck had a curb weight of 5400lbs and advertised payload capacity of 1800lbs. Together that makes 7200lbs which is 100lbs over the gvwr.

  • @Asomesauc
    @Asomesauc 10 місяців тому

    Hello

  • @rzfbgjy
    @rzfbgjy 7 місяців тому

    Makes me sad to know people live under such harassment just trying to be productive. You can’t put tools in your truck or trailer or have a welder “mounted” for godsake! Sad state of affairs! Great welding truck video tho 🤙🏻

  • @ghost-gamer4826
    @ghost-gamer4826 4 місяці тому

    I can basically laugh at ever NA Rig I see. Reason being in Europe, you get a 7 ton van/truck, you need a CDL, you get any vehicle you need a bianual inspection anual for buisness use depending on the equipment, deleting emissions is illeale, trailers or vans ar the norm here, customs builds need to be painstakingly approved. So from my perspective you are living in the wild west and can basically do almost anything with whatever shitbox you want over there. Sounds harsh but honestly I would already need to pay about 3-4k to get a appropriate driverslicense to drive that truck.
    And thats only the vehicle site of things.
    This is not anything against anybody in particular and I see why that stuff is important here, but it is also a great hassle and came to mind whe you talked about european regulations.
    You can be glad that you can do what you do while you still have challenges to keep in mind.