*Timestamps:* 00:00 - Intro 00:58 - EF Dawah Panel join: Format of the Stream 02:45 - People reading the Qur'an because of 🇵🇸. 05:42 - Lessons from 🇵🇸 for Non-Muslims/Muslims 13:10 - *Robin (Christian) joins:* Gratitude to God 15:08 - Discussion on Limiting/Diminishing God 18:22 - Problems with the Incarnation in Christianity 29:10 - Robin's claims about Christianity & Islam 31:06 - Refutation of Robin's claims 34:26 - Robin's claims about Qur'an 25:53-54 35:36 - Issues with Robin's claims 43:40 - Reasons for the Qur'an being a Miracle 47:25 - Debunking Robin's claims 55:04 - *Prince (Ahmadi) joins* 56:00 - Qadianis/Ahmadis being Non-Muslims 58:59 - Meaning of Qur'an 4:159 1:01:52 - Prince's claim about Qur'an 4:159 1:04:16 - Refutation of Prince's claims 1:08:59 - Problems with the Beliefs of the Ahmadis 1:14:52 - Refuting Prince's arguments for Ahmadiyya 1:30:37 - Debunking Prince's claims about Jesus 1:42:32 - Message to the Ahmadis 1:45:40 - Answering Robin's contentions 1:49:36 - Meaning of Qur'an 25:53-54 1:51:33 - Refutation of Mirza Gh. Ahmad's claims 1:54:53 - Issues with Ahmadis 1:58:18 - *Prima (Christian) joins* 1:59:11 - Ethno-centric nature of God in Christianity 2:01:30 - Prima's claims against Islam 2:03:41 - Refutation of Prima's claims 2:22:39 - No Rac¡sm in Islam 2:29:34 - Prima's arguments & their Refutation 2:34:03 - Ethno-centricity & Rac¡sm in Christianity 2:52:46 - Rac¡sm being forbidden in Islam 2:57:37 - *Isa joins* & shares his strange beliefs 2:59:46 - Advice to Muslims about studying Islam 3:01:44 - Isa's claim about the Qur'an & his Scripture 3:05:28 - Scrutinizing & Debunking Isa's claim 3:16:51 - Advice to Isa 3:33:10 - Isa's claims regarding Qur'an 3:81-82 3:35:23 - Refutation of Isa's claims 3:37:45 - Message to Isa about the Qur'an & Islam 3:46:39 - Advice to Muslims 3:50:02 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up MashaAllah ❤️💛💙 Splendid Stream 👍🏻👌🏻 _May Allah ﷻ bless you all and accept your efforts._ 🤲🏻
Thank you for being kind to Robin. Even though he is very stubborn and doesn’t concede when very clearly he is debunked or defeated on a point, I’m sure it is helping people learn more through the conversations you have with him.
@@homtanks7259insanely annoying! And when he laughs it’s so weird! Like why are you laughing? But because of brother Abbas’s respectful, patient and kind approach I imagine a lot of people learn from the interaction. Cos while Robin may be stubborn and a bit of a fibber, you as a bystander can clearly see that
I really liked the way you guys dealt with Ahmadiyas . Because even they acted very honest and gentle , true nature came out when they don't have any good arguments. So it will help other ahmediyas to learn the truth. I am telling other channels who engaging with ahmediyas should adapt this method. Because finally the purpose is to welcome ahmediyas to Islam .
The problem with "God incarnated in human flesh so He can identify with human's sorrow" is that it implies God as NOT all-knowing. It implies God NEED to change Himself 1st in order to know. Its almost as if Christians see God and human as two different species that dont understand each other, therefore one need to put themselves in the other shoes to be able to understand....as opposed to seeing God as the ultimate Creator that understand His creations inside out more than the creations themselves.
Prima Scriptura does not understand that the Christian Bible LIES about the great Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, by portraying him as someone who insults a needy woman and then heals her GRUDGINGLY only after humiliating her. A book that portrays the prophets in this way, must be FALSE.
It’s a shame because the Caribbean guy was so blinded by his denial that he’s covering his eyes and ears despite explaining to him Islam numerous times.
Robin - confirmation bias he can’t get past and probably never will Prince - cult of metaphors Prima - pagan having difficulty letting go of his colonial master’s skirt who gave him a book of subjugation and took his land Isa - deluded
The conversation with the last guest was really shocking. Makes me think back of a psychotisch patient I used to take care of. SubhanAllah. May Allah guide us all. ❤
True, he is in Jail because of the Zion bigger plans as he would've supported Palestine and would've pushed other muslim countries to do the same. Unfortunately the military is also serving the Zion in Pakistan and they are doing horrible things to the people but nobody is talking about it
@@desmondmansingh5175take time to understand Islam and the rituals Muslims practice instead of trying to score points. Pagans usually carve stones to look like humans, which Muslims don’t do. The black stone my dear descended from heaven. You can do so many things and get your sins forgiven in Islam, not just kiss the stone, so you’re not making the point you think you’re making. The Ka’aba was built by the prophet Ibraheem as a place of worship. If God tells you to walk around it and to put your forehead to the ground to worship Him, who are we to question that. Plus, it would have been pagan if the Muslims worshipped the ka’aba and the stone, which Muslims clearly don’t. You don’t understand Islam nor paganism, and you’re only harming yourself with this ignorance.
Brother Abbas and Imran love u guys , inşallah Allah swt bless you with an additional abundance of patience , that you already posses ( dealing with some of the nut jobs on this episode , im sorry if ive hurt anyone )
The verse doesn’t say waters don’t mix but Quran says the oceans don’t mix not water doesn’t mix Pple always assume the verse is talking about water that’s wrong assumption! It’s talking about oceans and each ocean retains its properties by not becoming or losing property to other ocean
It that is the case, then why are microplastics found down in Arctic Ocean and the Southern (Antarctic) Ocean, when 80% of plastics entering the ocean come from 5 Asian Rivers. What happens at Cape Horne and the Cape of Good Hope? The oceans mix. Your statement is fallacious
@@islanmohamed390 I wrote microplastics (not microbes) as proof that in remote ocean waters near the North and South Pole, there is considerable pollution which has travelled from other parts of the globe. Also Surah 25:53 is NOT talking about oceans as you claim. It specifically mentions flowing salt and fresh waters. Oceans are salty. Not fresh water, so it is obviously referring to fresh water streams or rivers entering into salt water. Also the word you use is spelt 'ridiculous' :)
3:30:44 I’ve commented so many times on this video, it’s just so full of gems. This dude wants to become a Hafiz of a book he believes was altered 😭😭😭😭 what is he on?
Most people and popular who claimed ex Muslims are ahmadiya and shia like nabeel qurish why😢😢 . The contradiction 10 year old is enough to pull out and shia they said we love prophet muhammad pbuh but same time they were cursing the mother of believers aisha and they know the religion more than of our prophet muhammad pbuh. 😢😢. May Allah guide them 😊.
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful Welcome, We are ‘the Messengers’ of Allah - Who has ‘roused Us’ from Our ‘sleeping place!’ The ‘Promise of Allah’ is true, and your companion is not mad. Indeed, he has spoken the Truth which Allah has spoken by the mouth of all His Holy Prophets, since the world began. They were made known to the Prophet by the voice of ‘the Spirit’ - for by ‘the Spirit’ are all things made known to the Prophets, ‘sooner or later!’ Do you know that the ‘head of prophecy’ was cut off with John? And that ‘prophecy’ issues from that head now, and you don’t perceive? Why is it that you knew not this? This is the ‘Son of man’ to whom righteousness belongs, and who will reveal all the ‘treasures’ of that which is concealed! Beware! For you ‘err greatly’ - if you think he has them not! Know you not that the Lord has chosen him to be a ruler unto you, ‘like unto Moses?’ For Moses truly said: “A Prophet shall Allah ‘raise up’ unto you of your brethren, like unto me. And him shall you hear in all things!” Why marvel you at this? For ‘the promise’ is unto you and your children! This is ‘he’ of whom it was written! (The Sacred Treasury, The Affirmation) www.sacredtreasury.net/the-affirmation1
Everyone needs to post about FREEING IMRAN KHAN, one of the last Muslim leader voices who speaks up for his people and others especially Palestine. We need to get him out after being put in prison for speaking up and standing up to the western world. FREE FREE PALESTINE AND FREE FREE IMRAN KHAN!!!
Brackish Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster MORE RESULTS What does the term brackish refer to? adjective. somewhat salty or briny, as the water in an estuary or salt marsh, which is not as salty as the sea but saltier than a river:These brackish swamps are some of the state's most important ecosystems.
I would describe the Quran as brackish. There is some fresh water, taken from the Bible, mixed with a whole lot of contaminants which makes it unable to sustain life.
As for the Answering Robin person who claimed Muhammad would not have seen the Nile or Euphrates/Tigris River mouths and that I don't know my history, I said he 'may' have visited these. He apparently had met and conversed with the Christian monk Bahira at Basrah which is near the Euphrates River mouth and being a successful merchant he may have travelled by ship to Egypt. He apparently travelled overland to Syria on a couple of occasions at least and travelling overland to Egypt via the Sinai would be no further than Syria. He gave a special dispensation and protection letter for the monks at St Catherine's monastery on the Sinai Peninsula where it is believed he frequented on occasions during his merchant years according to monk tradition.
He did not travel to Egypt because that is never mentioned in his seerah and everything is mentioned in it. Anyways, you’ve been debunked on the scientific point you were trying to make.
There is so much fabrication in Islam that it is pointless to talk about what Muhammad may or may not have done, or where he may have been. While he may be based on a real person, all we have about him is legends. I think it is far more profitable to point to the legends in the Quran to show how Islam is not based on truth. For example, Dhul Qarnayn is based on the real person of Alexander the Great, but the Quran picked up some of the legendary stories about him.
A humble request to brothers Abbas and Imran, please have mercy on us, sincere watchers, any time a Qadiyani or Ahmedi comes on your stream in future, ask them to go and watch Dawahwise streams debunking their belief system left right and centre. They have a set agenda and game plan, they will come on your stream all praises for you, be very gentle and kind, and when they do not have any argument to defend their beliefs, they will cut you off and then give an impression that you're not entertaining them or fair with them.
3:35:51 this guy is telling us the prophets come forth in the sacred treasury to testify? How? As ghosts? Do they possess his father? Where is the evidence? Give me nothing energy and ask me to follow you
01:40:00 This person named Prince made a mistake and no one corrected him Prophets are not witnesses only to non-believers, they bear witness to everyone, and even now there are two thousand years before the return of Christ, and all of these people of the Book are non-believers, so he witnesses them as well. The problem with these Ahmadiyya is that most of them do not know Arabic and do not memorize the Qur’an
The interaction with Isa, at the end of the program, made me wonder if there could ever be anything that EFDawah would accept that could prove Sunni Islam untrue.
@Hebiscus998 Evidence.. hmm.. It's a struggle when the topic is religion. How does a person verify a miracle. And, how does a person verify the 'unwittnessed miracle'? (Virgin Birth of Isa)?
اللهم أرنا الحق حقا وارزقنا اتباعه وأرنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه Ahmadiyyas really scare me, because it can happen to intelligent people if they were brainwashed early on? They can believe in utter falsehoods and be so adamant about it even though the evidence is glaring that their beliefs are false. May Allah guide us and keep us steadfast.
Oh no, seriously? I've come across another nut case who thinks John the baptist was the father of jesus. Who are these people? What part of "I have perfected your religion and obey the Messenger" do they not understand? What part of "the Quran is the final revelation and the criterion over all other revelations" do they not understand?
It scares me how hard it is to get rid of some teachings you grew up with. This is what you see with these people. There is no way someone would use their intellect and convert to any of these options these people came with.
The Quran is the book of blind belief. Take the fantasy stories about Solomon in Surah 27 and 34. Solomon was a real character in the Bible, which devotes 9 chapters to his life in each of 1 Kings and 2 Chronicles. He was a great king, but there is not a hint of talking birds, jinns or magic. In the Quran, there are no real people mentioned in his kingdom - just jinns and talking birds.
Unbelievable he rejected 2 billion Muslim and he believes one person that is his father. Just think how easy people get manipulated and go out of realty
It's always interesting that this stream is for non Muslims, but you get Ahmadi's and this Isa dude coming onto the stream. Inadvertently and unconsciously, they consider themselves non Muslims!
what prince said (to my understanding) regarding Annisa : 159 is that, "before his death (or the death of jesus), no one from ahlul kitab except believe it (the death of Jesus). Then in the judgment day, Jesus will become their witness". That verse simply means when the crusifixion was taking place and "someone" die on the cross (even Jesus was not die yet), all ahlul kitab believe of his death (or Jesus's death) while in fact he wasn't die yet. That is more logical than what mainstream sunni's interpretation (i.e. the Jesus will come back and all ahlul kitab will believe in him). One of the sunni's flaw argument is that, if it is interpreted as all ahlul kitab will believe him (jesus) in the second coming, then why there is no mentioned about "muslim" in that verse (an nisa : 159)? I mean, why muslim is not also included in that verse as believer in him in the second coming? Furthermore, if we read an nisa 158, it is clearly talking about the death of Jesus, so obviously the context of an nisa : 159 must be talking about the death of Jesus too, that's why "believe it" or "believe in it" is talking about the death of Jesus (which is actually he was not die yet).
Because Muslims already believe in him but the verse talks about the faith of those who did not believe, i.e. the People of the Book. The same question can also be asked about what Prince understood. Why did the Muslims not mention if what was meant was crucifixion? And another matter is the point about the fact that Christ will be a witness over them. This does not mean that they are not believers, because the other verse talks about the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, as a witness over the Muslims even though they are believers.
@@tokasab8684 again, if you read the verse before, an nisa 158, it is talking about the death of jesus, that's why no muslim mentioned in that verse. Basically, all ahlul kitab believe jesus was die, even at that time jesus hasn't died yet. It is consistent with the verse before (an nisa 158) and other ayah in Quran. What you believe is, Jesus will come back in second coming and all ahlul kitab believe in him, so why no muslim mentioned to believe in jesus if it is talking about second coming? If you claim all muslim already believe jesus when he is coming, then provide which verse in Quran that Jesus will come back? FYI, not all muslims believe in second coming, because that belief about second coming is mentioned in hadith, not in the Quran.
@@gondala If you speak Arabic I can explain to you why it cannot mean the cross or death in the previous verse from the pronoun used Be he not be dhalek
@@gondala به Its be he We do not have it in Arabic. Things are either he or she, but according to the context you can understand But the problem here is that if what is meant is something previously mentioned that cannot be done with به then it would be be-dhalek or be -ha dha
What exactly is preserved in the Quran? We can see it preserves myths which were in circulation at the time Muhammad is supposed to have lived. Like the myth of the sleepers in the cave - a Christian myth. The story is about Christians who supposedly were blocked in a cave by the Romans in times of persecution, and came out centuries later to find the Roman Empire had become Christian. Similarly, the story of Dhul Qurnayn is from legends about Alexander, which Christianize him and turn him into a godly king. As for the stories about Solomon in Surah 27 and 34, they are so ridiculous I won't explain further. But clearly, God allowed the Quran to be corrupted by silly myths so that any thinking person would immediately know they can safely reject this book as it has nothing to do with Him.
I think that the prima scripture brother is focusing on the wrong point forsure I'm a white European man who lives in the United States and I know that Allah swt has sent messengers to all people we learn arabic because that's the language Allah swt chose to reveal the quran but I don't see any racism in islam do muslims have racism sure some do but I can tell you I've never been more welcome anywhere than the masjid where we just had a African America brother took shahadah I took my shahadah there we have Indian brothers Pakistani brothers arab brothers Hispanic brothers but I can tell you this we've all recieved messengers an the quran tells us that messengers were sent to all people otherwise we wouldn't ve able to be punished wallahi islam I'd perfect it is a religion for everyone God doesn't look like me or an Arab or an Indian or a Malaysian or an African God is something we can't even describe when he tried to show himself the mountain exploded due to his majesty I don't have to feel inferior for being non arab I am muslim my brothers are muslim Alhamdulilah we are one ummah
Выдающийся ученый и мухаддис, шейх Ахмад Шакир, да смилуется над ним Аллах, сказал: «Европа смогла одержать верх над мусульманскими странами во время их слабости, когда она начала терроризировать их фанатизмом (сегодня: терроризмом и экстремизмом), и каждый мусульманин стал малодушным в отношении к своей религии и шариату, опасаясь обвинений в фанатизме, потом европейцы распространили между ними новшество национализма (гражданство, границы и народы), и так разделили единую Умму на части, партии, таким образом мусульмане потеряли свои могущество и единство». Ист. «Джамхарат аль-макалят» (699). Через шейха Машхура Абу Умар Салим аль-Газзи
This episode was just filled with insane people from beginning to end. First the infamous Robin, then the delusional Ahamadiyya, then the unhinged Christian, then the unhinged and delusional son of a “prophet”. This last guy is insidious cos he seems to be very calm and logical and comes with this attitude that he just wants someone to engage fairly with him. First of all, sir, Muslims don’t engage with you because our prophet warned us of the many dajjals that will come before the main dajjal and gave us their description. Second, his father probably did drugs and this guy goes like, what does that have to do with anything? Imagine a prophet of God doing drugs.. sir… a prophet would never! And a Muslim would never believe this nonsense (this drug bit is from Hamza’s stream with this guy). This dude throws all these doubts on Islam and preservation of the Quran with literally zero evidence just weaved fantasies. I pray for your mental emancipation from this illness you have. All of these 4 people honestly. I just pray for them to get well soon.
Interesting that they welcome people like these on the livestream, but block me. Is it because I show people what is in the Quran, and that destroys Muslim faith?
@@lauz8249 The comment above by Hebiscus was complaining about the sort of people they allow on. When I come on, I bring a direct challenge to Islam, and show the faults in the Quran. They don't like that. But the thing is, if you had watched the historicity of the New Testament streams, you would know that they would not let me say anything against the Quran back then, but I promised I would be first in line when it came to the historicity of the Quran. I turned up week after week to defend the Bible. 3 years later, we are up to episode 54 of the Open Forum, with still no historicity of the Quran. And when I start showing people what is in the Quran, they block me. Islam cannot tolerate criticism.
Muhammad was the last person you would call a prophet. The Quran barely mentions him, but then again, the Quran contains myths and nonsense, so is not credible anyway.
3:26:37 I hope Isa reads my comment. Isa, you’re saying your book sacred treasury is basically better than the Quran. I read parts of the book, because I have no time for nonsense and plagiarism. This book is in English. No person in their right mind would say a book that is “revealed” in English is better than Arabic, so already your claim is debunked. I don’t need to say anything more.
Cannot compare a holy and just God to a sinful man how God treat man and how a father would treat his child,when mankind sinned in beginning God already warned them that if they sin they will die and that's exactly what happened,mankind died spiritually and was cast from God's presence and God had to put a plan in place to redeem mankind back to him (to save mankind) thus a Saviour was needed and God himself was that Saviour wich was prophecied in the OT of the coming Messiah (saviour) wich was done in our Lord and Saviour,Jesus Christ!!
Once again the panel is dishonest and won't admit the Quran makes a false statement. Surah 25:53 talks about two bodies of 'flowing water'. Rivers flow off the land to the sea by gravity and salt waters flow by tidal movements and ocean currents. This verse is not talking of staic water in a pond or lake. This verse states 'Allah has made a barrier between them, a partition that is not to be passed'/ This of course is sheer nonsense. Fresh and salt waters mix at any esturary around the globe and become less saline as they go upstream. Why can't they honestly admit the Quran makes a false statement here......like in other verses of the Quran I have exposed as being fabications. BTW Abbas I do not go to anti-Islamic websites as you claim. I find these inaccuracies myself, or have Muslims ask me to critique particular verses as was the case for this particular verse.
*Timestamps:*
00:00 - Intro
00:58 - EF Dawah Panel join: Format of the Stream
02:45 - People reading the Qur'an because of 🇵🇸.
05:42 - Lessons from 🇵🇸 for Non-Muslims/Muslims
13:10 - *Robin (Christian) joins:* Gratitude to God
15:08 - Discussion on Limiting/Diminishing God
18:22 - Problems with the Incarnation in Christianity
29:10 - Robin's claims about Christianity & Islam
31:06 - Refutation of Robin's claims
34:26 - Robin's claims about Qur'an 25:53-54
35:36 - Issues with Robin's claims
43:40 - Reasons for the Qur'an being a Miracle
47:25 - Debunking Robin's claims
55:04 - *Prince (Ahmadi) joins*
56:00 - Qadianis/Ahmadis being Non-Muslims
58:59 - Meaning of Qur'an 4:159
1:01:52 - Prince's claim about Qur'an 4:159
1:04:16 - Refutation of Prince's claims
1:08:59 - Problems with the Beliefs of the Ahmadis
1:14:52 - Refuting Prince's arguments for Ahmadiyya
1:30:37 - Debunking Prince's claims about Jesus
1:42:32 - Message to the Ahmadis
1:45:40 - Answering Robin's contentions
1:49:36 - Meaning of Qur'an 25:53-54
1:51:33 - Refutation of Mirza Gh. Ahmad's claims
1:54:53 - Issues with Ahmadis
1:58:18 - *Prima (Christian) joins*
1:59:11 - Ethno-centric nature of God in Christianity
2:01:30 - Prima's claims against Islam
2:03:41 - Refutation of Prima's claims
2:22:39 - No Rac¡sm in Islam
2:29:34 - Prima's arguments & their Refutation
2:34:03 - Ethno-centricity & Rac¡sm in Christianity
2:52:46 - Rac¡sm being forbidden in Islam
2:57:37 - *Isa joins* & shares his strange beliefs
2:59:46 - Advice to Muslims about studying Islam
3:01:44 - Isa's claim about the Qur'an & his Scripture
3:05:28 - Scrutinizing & Debunking Isa's claim
3:16:51 - Advice to Isa
3:33:10 - Isa's claims regarding Qur'an 3:81-82
3:35:23 - Refutation of Isa's claims
3:37:45 - Message to Isa about the Qur'an & Islam
3:46:39 - Advice to Muslims
3:50:02 - Closing Remarks & Wrapping Up
MashaAllah ❤️💛💙
Splendid Stream 👍🏻👌🏻
_May Allah ﷻ bless you all and accept your efforts._ 🤲🏻
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And the guy called ISA has been on these Dawah streams a few years ago touting the same stuff.
Our prophet informed us about Mirza, he said after me there will be thirty false prophets and Mirza is one of them.
You are correct
I 100% remember that Isa guy said his father used to do drugs on Hamza's stream
I remember he was on drug when hamza asked him..
Yes!! And then had the gal to say what does that have to do with anything? Ummm it has very much a lot to do with everything
Thank you for being kind to Robin. Even though he is very stubborn and doesn’t concede when very clearly he is debunked or defeated on a point, I’m sure it is helping people learn more through the conversations you have with him.
He is just annoying
@@homtanks7259insanely annoying! And when he laughs it’s so weird! Like why are you laughing? But because of brother Abbas’s respectful, patient and kind approach I imagine a lot of people learn from the interaction. Cos while Robin may be stubborn and a bit of a fibber, you as a bystander can clearly see that
it was such a torture listening to Prima Scriptura, the height of ignorance cannot imagine.
I really liked the way you guys dealt with Ahmadiyas . Because even they acted very honest and gentle , true nature came out when they don't have any good arguments. So it will help other ahmediyas to learn the truth.
I am telling other channels who engaging with ahmediyas should adapt this method. Because finally the purpose is to welcome ahmediyas to Islam .
As always, Br. Abbas and the good doctor were meticulous. Alhamdulillah and may Allah swt bless them and provide them with His choiciest blessings.
*Subhanallah! Let's pray for a world where everyone is safe and protected by Allah's mercy and love*
The problem with "God incarnated in human flesh so He can identify with human's sorrow" is that it implies God as NOT all-knowing.
It implies God NEED to change Himself 1st in order to know.
Its almost as if Christians see God and human as two different species that dont understand each other, therefore one need to put themselves in the other shoes to be able to understand....as opposed to seeing God as the ultimate Creator that understand His creations inside out more than the creations themselves.
Yeah, Robin definitely shot himself in the foot with that one.
Prima Scriptura does not understand that the Christian Bible LIES about the great Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, by portraying him as someone who insults a needy woman and then heals her GRUDGINGLY only after humiliating her.
A book that portrays the prophets in this way, must be FALSE.
It’s so sad cos he is defending it so hard when it’s so indefensible
Baraka ALLAHU fikoum
It’s a shame because the Caribbean guy was so blinded by his denial that he’s covering his eyes and ears despite explaining to him Islam numerous times.
Robin - confirmation bias he can’t get past and probably never will
Prince - cult of metaphors
Prima - pagan having difficulty letting go of his colonial master’s skirt who gave him a book of subjugation and took his land
Isa - deluded
Varying degrees of mental illness.
JazakAllah'u khairan brothers 🇵🇸🤲🏻
The conversation with the last guest was really shocking.
Makes me think back of a psychotisch patient I used to take care of. SubhanAllah. May Allah guide us all. ❤
Brother Abbas and Dr. Imran
I admire your work so much. I hope to have the pleasure of meeting you both someday inshallah ❤💐
Always impressed with you brothers
I would love to see a Dr Imran hosting by himself of giving a lecture or something. I find his voice so calming.
3:30:37 , Abbas trying to hide his laugh 😂😂😂
Masha Allah. The way brothers engaging with others is commendable. And this is how should be deal with Qadiyani or ahamediyas.
جزاكم الله خيرا
Also Free Imran Khan
True, he is in Jail because of the Zion bigger plans as he would've supported Palestine and would've pushed other muslim countries to do the same. Unfortunately the military is also serving the Zion in Pakistan and they are doing horrible things to the people but nobody is talking about it
*_Dr Imran beautifully dissects pagan belief with a Boom_*
Running around kabaah and kiss blackstone for forgiveness of sins sounds more pagan than anything else!!
@@desmondmansingh5175take time to understand Islam and the rituals Muslims practice instead of trying to score points. Pagans usually carve stones to look like humans, which Muslims don’t do. The black stone my dear descended from heaven. You can do so many things and get your sins forgiven in Islam, not just kiss the stone, so you’re not making the point you think you’re making. The Ka’aba was built by the prophet Ibraheem as a place of worship. If God tells you to walk around it and to put your forehead to the ground to worship Him, who are we to question that. Plus, it would have been pagan if the Muslims worshipped the ka’aba and the stone, which Muslims clearly don’t. You don’t understand Islam nor paganism, and you’re only harming yourself with this ignorance.
Brother Abbas's confused face at prima scripturas nonsense needs to be made into a clip or meme ..hahahaha 2:47:00 made my night
Brother Abbas and Imran love u guys , inşallah Allah swt bless you with an additional abundance of patience , that you already posses ( dealing with some of the nut jobs on this episode , im sorry if ive hurt anyone )
Does anyone know what the choir for the intro is
The verse doesn’t say waters don’t mix but Quran says the oceans don’t mix not water doesn’t mix
Pple always assume the verse is talking about water that’s wrong assumption! It’s talking about oceans and each ocean retains its properties by not becoming or losing property to other ocean
It that is the case, then why are microplastics found down in Arctic Ocean and the Southern (Antarctic) Ocean, when 80% of plastics entering the ocean come from 5 Asian Rivers. What happens at Cape Horne and the Cape of Good Hope? The oceans mix. Your statement is fallacious
@@robinboom1184 really what are you talking about? So to you ocean is microbes and garbage in ocean! That’s rediclose 😂
@@robinboom1184 I think you don’t know the difference between property and content
@@islanmohamed390 I wrote microplastics (not microbes) as proof that in remote ocean waters near the North and South Pole, there is considerable pollution which has travelled from other parts of the globe. Also Surah 25:53 is NOT talking about oceans as you claim. It specifically mentions flowing salt and fresh waters. Oceans are salty. Not fresh water, so it is obviously referring to fresh water streams or rivers entering into salt water. Also the word you use is spelt 'ridiculous' :)
@@robinboom1184 you’re still missing it! Do you know the difference between property and content? If not I’ll explain for you.
3:30:44 I’ve commented so many times on this video, it’s just so full of gems. This dude wants to become a Hafiz of a book he believes was altered 😭😭😭😭 what is he on?
Robin says, "A partition that is not to be passed."
Passed by what?
The creatures living in one or other body of water?
May Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala guide our Africa and west Indian brothers/sister who are still deluded by the colonisers.
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1:10:25 good point since there r news about mahdi and conquering Constantinople
Most people and popular who claimed ex Muslims are ahmadiya and shia like nabeel qurish why😢😢 . The contradiction 10 year old is enough to pull out and shia they said we love prophet muhammad pbuh but same time they were cursing the mother of believers aisha and they know the religion more than of our prophet muhammad pbuh. 😢😢. May Allah guide them 😊.
Isa bin yahya needs treatment. He is delusional so was his father( it is called folie a deux shared delusional disorder)
In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Welcome, We are ‘the Messengers’ of Allah - Who has ‘roused Us’ from Our ‘sleeping place!’ The ‘Promise of Allah’ is true, and your companion is not mad. Indeed, he has spoken the Truth which Allah has spoken by the mouth of all His Holy Prophets, since the world began. They were made known to the Prophet by the voice of ‘the Spirit’ - for by ‘the Spirit’ are all things made known to the Prophets, ‘sooner or later!’
Do you know that the ‘head of prophecy’ was cut off with John? And that ‘prophecy’ issues from that head now, and you don’t perceive? Why is it that you knew not this? This is the ‘Son of man’ to whom righteousness belongs, and who will reveal all the ‘treasures’ of that which is concealed! Beware! For you ‘err greatly’ - if you think he has them not!
Know you not that the Lord has chosen him to be a ruler unto you, ‘like unto Moses?’ For Moses truly said: “A Prophet shall Allah ‘raise up’ unto you of your brethren, like unto me. And him shall you hear in all things!” Why marvel you at this? For ‘the promise’ is unto you and your children! This is ‘he’ of whom it was written!
(The Sacred Treasury, The Affirmation)
www.sacredtreasury.net/the-affirmation1
Everyone needs to post about FREEING IMRAN KHAN, one of the last Muslim leader voices who speaks up for his people and others especially Palestine. We need to get him out after being put in prison for speaking up and standing up to the western world.
FREE FREE PALESTINE AND FREE FREE IMRAN KHAN!!!
2:06:27 Dr. Imran is making fire point and it’s going over the heads of these guys
Someone should just read this book Isa keeps pushing so he can finally hear someone tell him its nonsense
Or even better, get a real textual critic to analyze the book.
It's a copy and paste of Quran verses and the Bible mixed together.
No time for nonsense
It’s the Quran plagiarized and altered and written in English. It’s been done before, it’s unoriginal.
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What does the term brackish refer to?
adjective. somewhat salty or briny, as the water in an estuary or salt marsh, which is not as salty as the sea but saltier than a river:These brackish swamps are some of the state's most important ecosystems.
I would describe the Quran as brackish. There is some fresh water, taken from the Bible, mixed with a whole lot of contaminants which makes it unable to sustain life.
Prima ballerina is more emotion than brain , unfortunately
As for the Answering Robin person who claimed Muhammad would not have seen the Nile or Euphrates/Tigris River mouths and that I don't know my history, I said he 'may' have visited these. He apparently had met and conversed with the Christian monk Bahira at Basrah which is near the Euphrates River mouth and being a successful merchant he may have travelled by ship to Egypt. He apparently travelled overland to Syria on a couple of occasions at least and travelling overland to Egypt via the Sinai would be no further than Syria. He gave a special dispensation and protection letter for the monks at St Catherine's monastery on the Sinai Peninsula where it is believed he frequented on occasions during his merchant years according to monk tradition.
He did not travel to Egypt because that is never mentioned in his seerah and everything is mentioned in it. Anyways, you’ve been debunked on the scientific point you were trying to make.
There is so much fabrication in Islam that it is pointless to talk about what Muhammad may or may not have done, or where he may have been. While he may be based on a real person, all we have about him is legends. I think it is far more profitable to point to the legends in the Quran to show how Islam is not based on truth. For example, Dhul Qarnayn is based on the real person of Alexander the Great, but the Quran picked up some of the legendary stories about him.
Im a muslim and I agree with what the brothers are saying however the treatment of the brother is unfair and borders on bullying ....
Do qadiyanis believe in reincarnation 😳
A humble request to brothers Abbas and Imran, please have mercy on us, sincere watchers, any time a Qadiyani or Ahmedi comes on your stream in future, ask them to go and watch Dawahwise streams debunking their belief system left right and centre. They have a set agenda and game plan, they will come on your stream all praises for you, be very gentle and kind, and when they do not have any argument to defend their beliefs, they will cut you off and then give an impression that you're not entertaining them or fair with them.
27:25, 2:24:50
3:35:51 this guy is telling us the prophets come forth in the sacred treasury to testify? How? As ghosts? Do they possess his father? Where is the evidence? Give me nothing energy and ask me to follow you
01:40:00
This person named Prince made a mistake and no one corrected him Prophets are not witnesses only to non-believers, they bear witness to everyone, and even now there are two thousand years before the return of Christ, and all of these people of the Book are non-believers, so he witnesses them as well. The problem with these Ahmadiyya is that most of them do not know
Arabic and do not memorize the Qur’an
read al mai'idah 116-117, what Jesus said to God?
@@gondala
I memorized it. There is no need to read. What do you think it means? Please explain to me in Arabic. English is not my first language.
May Allah guide the Qadianis
The interaction with Isa, at the end of the program, made me wonder if there could ever be anything that EFDawah would accept that could prove Sunni Islam untrue.
If it made sense, probably.. but all everyone ever came up with is utter nonsense with zero evidence?
@Hebiscus998 Evidence.. hmm.. It's a struggle when the topic is religion. How does a person verify a miracle. And, how does a person verify the 'unwittnessed miracle'? (Virgin Birth of Isa)?
Prince Ibelise will never stop and he will continue to argue he is a hypocrite and cunning.
اللهم أرنا الحق حقا وارزقنا اتباعه وأرنا الباطل باطلا وارزقنا اجتنابه
Ahmadiyyas really scare me, because it can happen to intelligent people if they were brainwashed early on? They can believe in utter falsehoods and be so adamant about it even though the evidence is glaring that their beliefs are false. May Allah guide us and keep us steadfast.
Nooooo... Robin for about 50mins!😭
Oh no, seriously? I've come across another nut case who thinks John the baptist was the father of jesus. Who are these people? What part of "I have perfected your religion and obey the Messenger" do they not understand? What part of "the Quran is the final revelation and the criterion over all other revelations" do they not understand?
Noooooo, not Robin
For the Bible he blindly believes, for the Quran he is using his brain. Funny.
It scares me how hard it is to get rid of some teachings you grew up with. This is what you see with these people. There is no way someone would use their intellect and convert to any of these options these people came with.
The Quran is the book of blind belief. Take the fantasy stories about Solomon in Surah 27 and 34. Solomon was a real character in the Bible, which devotes 9 chapters to his life in each of 1 Kings and 2 Chronicles. He was a great king, but there is not a hint of talking birds, jinns or magic. In the Quran, there are no real people mentioned in his kingdom - just jinns and talking birds.
Prima scriptura is delusional. My man common sense isnt so common.
3:30:00 this man proving that he is cheater but he doesn't realize himself what he is proving
Sometimes it is interesting, many guests and almost every time same people...😅 Or some of the same people
Many of them are annoying
@@homtanks7259 I bring the truth, but so they block me.
Unbelievable he rejected 2 billion Muslim and he believes one person that is his father. Just think how easy people get manipulated and go out of realty
It's always interesting that this stream is for non Muslims, but you get Ahmadi's and this Isa dude coming onto the stream. Inadvertently and unconsciously, they consider themselves non Muslims!
what prince said (to my understanding) regarding Annisa : 159 is that, "before his death (or the death of jesus), no one from ahlul kitab except believe it (the death of Jesus). Then in the judgment day, Jesus will become their witness". That verse simply means when the crusifixion was taking place and "someone" die on the cross (even Jesus was not die yet), all ahlul kitab believe of his death (or Jesus's death) while in fact he wasn't die yet. That is more logical than what mainstream sunni's interpretation (i.e. the Jesus will come back and all ahlul kitab will believe in him). One of the sunni's flaw argument is that, if it is interpreted as all ahlul kitab will believe him (jesus) in the second coming, then why there is no mentioned about "muslim" in that verse (an nisa : 159)? I mean, why muslim is not also included in that verse as believer in him in the second coming? Furthermore, if we read an nisa 158, it is clearly talking about the death of Jesus, so obviously the context of an nisa : 159 must be talking about the death of Jesus too, that's why "believe it" or "believe in it" is talking about the death of Jesus (which is actually he was not die yet).
Because Muslims already believe in him but the verse talks about the faith of those who did not believe, i.e. the People of the Book. The same question can also be asked about what Prince understood. Why did the Muslims not mention if what was meant was crucifixion? And another matter is the point about the fact that Christ will be a witness over them. This does not mean that they are not believers, because the other verse talks about the Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, as a witness over the Muslims even though they are believers.
@@tokasab8684 again, if you read the verse before, an nisa 158, it is talking about the death of jesus, that's why no muslim mentioned in that verse. Basically, all ahlul kitab believe jesus was die, even at that time jesus hasn't died yet. It is consistent with the verse before (an nisa 158) and other ayah in Quran. What you believe is, Jesus will come back in second coming and all ahlul kitab believe in him, so why no muslim mentioned to believe in jesus if it is talking about second coming? If you claim all muslim already believe jesus when he is coming, then provide which verse in Quran that Jesus will come back? FYI, not all muslims believe in second coming, because that belief about second coming is mentioned in hadith, not in the Quran.
@@gondala
If you speak Arabic I can explain to you why it cannot mean the cross or death in the previous verse from the pronoun used
Be he not be dhalek
@@tokasab8684 be honest, our God is our witness... is it believe in "it" or "him" in arabic?
@@gondala
به
Its be he
We do not have it in Arabic. Things are either he or she, but according to the context you can understand
But the problem here is that if what is meant is something previously mentioned that cannot be done with به then it would be be-dhalek or be -ha dha
With all due respect to all, the preservation of the Quran doesn’t need a scholar. It’s indisputable. Unless you are not a Muslim.
What exactly is preserved in the Quran? We can see it preserves myths which were in circulation at the time Muhammad is supposed to have lived. Like the myth of the sleepers in the cave - a Christian myth. The story is about Christians who supposedly were blocked in a cave by the Romans in times of persecution, and came out centuries later to find the Roman Empire had become Christian.
Similarly, the story of Dhul Qurnayn is from legends about Alexander, which Christianize him and turn him into a godly king.
As for the stories about Solomon in Surah 27 and 34, they are so ridiculous I won't explain further. But clearly, God allowed the Quran to be corrupted by silly myths so that any thinking person would immediately know they can safely reject this book as it has nothing to do with Him.
@@frankszanto When Our verses are recited to him, he says, "Legends of the former peoples." (15) Surah Al-Qalam
I think that the prima scripture brother is focusing on the wrong point forsure I'm a white European man who lives in the United States and I know that Allah swt has sent messengers to all people we learn arabic because that's the language Allah swt chose to reveal the quran but I don't see any racism in islam do muslims have racism sure some do but I can tell you I've never been more welcome anywhere than the masjid where we just had a African America brother took shahadah I took my shahadah there we have Indian brothers Pakistani brothers arab brothers Hispanic brothers but I can tell you this we've all recieved messengers an the quran tells us that messengers were sent to all people otherwise we wouldn't ve able to be punished wallahi islam I'd perfect it is a religion for everyone God doesn't look like me or an Arab or an Indian or a Malaysian or an African God is something we can't even describe when he tried to show himself the mountain exploded due to his majesty I don't have to feel inferior for being non arab I am muslim my brothers are muslim Alhamdulilah we are one ummah
How could say the Muhammad was a prophet when the Quran is so clearly a poor attempt to copy the Bible, with many myths and mistakes?
This Robbin guy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Выдающийся ученый и мухаддис, шейх Ахмад Шакир, да смилуется над ним Аллах, сказал: «Европа смогла одержать верх над мусульманскими странами во время их слабости, когда она начала терроризировать их фанатизмом (сегодня: терроризмом и экстремизмом), и каждый мусульманин стал малодушным в отношении к своей религии и шариату, опасаясь обвинений в фанатизме, потом европейцы распространили между ними новшество национализма (гражданство, границы и народы), и так разделили единую Умму на части, партии, таким образом мусульмане потеряли свои могущество и единство». Ист. «Джамхарат аль-макалят» (699). Через шейха Машхура Абу Умар Салим аль-Газзи
Athiests xtians take hours and hours to understand wht is being argues. what normal reasonal personal wud only take few minutea
This Isa brother needs psychological help I think.
Why would God need to identify with humanity when He is the one that created us? What an asinine statement
This episode was just filled with insane people from beginning to end. First the infamous Robin, then the delusional Ahamadiyya, then the unhinged Christian, then the unhinged and delusional son of a “prophet”. This last guy is insidious cos he seems to be very calm and logical and comes with this attitude that he just wants someone to engage fairly with him. First of all, sir, Muslims don’t engage with you because our prophet warned us of the many dajjals that will come before the main dajjal and gave us their description. Second, his father probably did drugs and this guy goes like, what does that have to do with anything? Imagine a prophet of God doing drugs.. sir… a prophet would never! And a Muslim would never believe this nonsense (this drug bit is from Hamza’s stream with this guy). This dude throws all these doubts on Islam and preservation of the Quran with literally zero evidence just weaved fantasies. I pray for your mental emancipation from this illness you have. All of these 4 people honestly. I just pray for them to get well soon.
Interesting that they welcome people like these on the livestream, but block me. Is it because I show people what is in the Quran, and that destroys Muslim faith?
@frankszanto yeah, they block you, its not like u were ever on the stream like a dozen or so...
@@lauz8249 The comment above by Hebiscus was complaining about the sort of people they allow on. When I come on, I bring a direct challenge to Islam, and show the faults in the Quran. They don't like that. But the thing is, if you had watched the historicity of the New Testament streams, you would know that they would not let me say anything against the Quran back then, but I promised I would be first in line when it came to the historicity of the Quran. I turned up week after week to defend the Bible. 3 years later, we are up to episode 54 of the Open Forum, with still no historicity of the Quran. And when I start showing people what is in the Quran, they block me. Islam cannot tolerate criticism.
2:40:15 not feeling sorry for him anymore. He deserves where he is
The profhet Muhammed Is The last profhet.
The quraan/hadith
Sayning to not about mirza ghulam
Muhammad was the last person you would call a prophet. The Quran barely mentions him, but then again, the Quran contains myths and nonsense, so is not credible anyway.
This Isa dude pisses me off when he tries to say Islamic phrases he pronounces them so wrong 😭 what the heck is salalalayyysallam
How many adverts do you want to put on a video. Every 5 minutes is very annoying 😮
Adam/eve where muslim's.NOT christen's our jews/,hindu's
Adam and Eve rejected God's word. I guess that makes them Muslims.
3:26:37 I hope Isa reads my comment. Isa, you’re saying your book sacred treasury is basically better than the Quran. I read parts of the book, because I have no time for nonsense and plagiarism. This book is in English. No person in their right mind would say a book that is “revealed” in English is better than Arabic, so already your claim is debunked. I don’t need to say anything more.
Cannot compare a holy and just God to a sinful man how God treat man and how a father would treat his child,when mankind sinned in beginning God already warned them that if they sin they will die and that's exactly what happened,mankind died spiritually and was cast from God's presence and God had to put a plan in place to redeem mankind back to him (to save mankind) thus a Saviour was needed and God himself was that Saviour wich was prophecied in the OT of the coming Messiah (saviour) wich was done in our Lord and Saviour,Jesus Christ!!
Just say NO to idolatry.
Once again the panel is dishonest and won't admit the Quran makes a false statement. Surah 25:53 talks about two bodies of 'flowing water'. Rivers flow off the land to the sea by gravity and salt waters flow by tidal movements and ocean currents. This verse is not talking of staic water in a pond or lake. This verse states 'Allah has made a barrier between them, a partition that is not to be passed'/ This of course is sheer nonsense. Fresh and salt waters mix at any esturary around the globe and become less saline as they go upstream. Why can't they honestly admit the Quran makes a false statement here......like in other verses of the Quran I have exposed as being fabications. BTW Abbas I do not go to anti-Islamic websites as you claim. I find these inaccuracies myself, or have Muslims ask me to critique particular verses as was the case for this particular verse.
Robin, it’s not our problem you don’t understand the Quran.
2:17:03 sad to see how scriptura have been brainwasked
2:47:52 he is accepting he is a gentile and a dog
Jesus means hail Zeus and it is the title of Julius Caesar
You should have quoted surah Al Maidah verse (5:3) to brother Esah he is delusional and fool
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I accept only Allah's Quran, Allah's Sunna and Allah's Hadith and to accept anything else beside this is shirk.
Muhammad was Not a prophet, that is an insult