There is absolutely no need for you to apologies about your English. 95% of people (totally made up stat ) are able to speak their native tongue, let alone a second language (myself included). I love all of your work. I love the collaborations you do. Keep it up.
I appreciate that you do these videos in English. Never apologize for speaking your non native language incorrectly, I didn't hear any grammar or pronunciation errors in this video to begin with.
This is a great vid. I ended up here because my spring water taste and smells bad after being stored in the 5 gallon PET bottles. I was told an ozone generator can fix that. Great vid. Very educational.
You can produce liquid ozone similar to how you produce liquid oxygen. By passing ozonated oxygen through a collector which is chilled to liquid nitrogen temperatures, you can obtain an oxygen/ozone condensate. Once a sufficient amount of liquid is collected, the oxygen is allowed to boil off by slowly letting the temperature rise, leaving almost pure liquid ozone behind. We did this in our research lab, but I cannot remember what the half-life is for the transition back to oxygen.
It is a dark purple blue liquid and is very unstable. It is similar to nitroglycerin in aensitivity, and if it reaches boiling it goes off on its own. Chemical Force channel shows liquid ozone and its chemical properties, his was about 70% pure as well. 😲
Thanx for sharing your experience.Please keep in mind that; high voltage corona discharge also produces infrared, ultraviolet, Gamma, and X radiation. So dont forget to protect yourself!
What i found works well is the center tube is a thin glass tube stuffed with steel wool then a thin gap with an outer tube that fits the inner one with about 3mm gap. If the outer tube is made of metal then it must be ozone resistant, otherwise wrap the outer tube with foil. Feed with dry oxygen gas and drive with high frequency AC. Also works well for gas phase chlorination etc 🤓
I have a PLA rack in my sterilization cabinet. It has been used for about 150-300 hours at about 100-150ppm and few hours at 1000-2500ppm ozone level. All at room temperature but at high humidity (RH 80% or more) that makes ozone more reactive. It has held up surprisingly well. My ozone sensor module (MQ-131) has not taken those levels without changing it a couple times. (and some nitrous oxides too, because I make ozone from air). If my light 2mm rods in a grill like rack have not fallen apart, larger end caps should take quite a lot more abuse.
Hi, @11:31 you should add a insulator in space between power supply and HV generator: due HV transformer: should an arc occour, it will be only in your HV generator (which will fry something and then, blow the fuse) and not between HV generator and your power supply (which will have unpredictable effects). Also, i suggest you to add more insulation between HV cables and metallic objects.
I found your channel by accident. And just delighted with your hobbies. The synthesis of cesium, rubidium and compounds of these metals is great. About the ozone. There is an interesting method for obtaining ozone by electrolysis of chloric acid during cooling. Would you like to try this method? In general, I am with great respect for people who have such hobbies. Since I myself am like it. Only my interests in organic chemistry. I was not very lucky with the place of birth. I live in Russia. You understand probably that now this is not the best place on Earth. Good luck in the experiments!
Great video, very clear. Pity about the first high voltage supply, I have a similar power supply for my ozone generator which is also a tube similar to yours (I didn’t make it, just bought the parts and assembled it) so I think it should have worked. You can get oxygen from electrolysis of NaOH solution in water depending on how much ozone you need. Have you made your own concentrator? You could run your gas through both tubes to expose it to more plasma. Have the entry point on one side in the outer tube, exit on the same side from the inner tube after gas flowed down one tube and back through the other.
Thank you! Yes, I think I will change the design and let the gas flow around and also trough the inner tube to get more ozone. I bought a used concentrator. It's the same one I use for my glassblowing.
Warum sind die Elektroden Gitter im direkten Kontakt mit dem Rohr? Ist ein kleiner Luft Puffer zwischen Dielektrikum nicht besser? Also z. B innen Rohr in end anliegend und aussen eigenen Abstand von paar mm?
I was wondering because I work at a Hilton hotel and whenever a room smells (either reeking of cigarette smoke, or room smelling bad, anytime a room smells unpleasant we use this machine to make room smell better) and wanted to understand how this machine works
Fascinating! You make it look easy. Be sure to get a good lawyer and buy a patent on your simple design, after you titrate that is. You accent makes English speakers feel, well, rather simple for not thinking of this themselves, so no need to apologize.
Very interesting. There is no need to apologize for your English - it was all clear and easy to understand. I look forward to seeing your followup to test yield of the device. Is the inner most glass tube sealed, with no input gas passing? Or is ok to leave open?
Thank you! The inner tube in my design is closed. But it would be even better if the oxygen passes around and trough the inner tube. I may change that in a later design.
Maybe I'm thinking SMD components and not certain actually, though seems like will be a good idea to isolate the electronics from the ozone more maybe? Nasty stuff to inhale and be around... though effective. Neat work as always.
I appreciate your attention to detail and your English is spot on. I look forward to more videos. Do you do anything with CNC or Laser engraving? I would like to see some videos on your 3d printing skills and setup? Subscribed
Thank you! I appreciate it! Sadly I do not have a CNC or laser engraver. I don't have enough space for it. I will keep in mind to include some more of the 3D printing in my videos!
I have always wondered: does it not make sense to have the central tube continuously vented in the same path? ‘It’ produces ozone on that side too right? Seems that potential is now lost?
I really hope you ended up putting some sort of viewing window on that box. It would be a shame to hide such a cool visual effect. Excellent project, beautiful English.
Aren't you wasting half the corona? since it is AC it might be better to have air flow around the outer channel then through the middle before exiting?
Yes you are absolutely right. It would be better to direct the gass around and through the inner tube. I didn't think about that when I was building it. If I need the ozon generator in the future I will print new caps for the ends that do exactly what you mentioned.
4:48 legit me everytime i do anything DIY, all my grounds now go to the neutral, i have given up (presumably the GFCI (FI schutzschalter) tripped and not the mains breaker?)
What OD and ID do your quartz tubes have? I am trying to figure out how much clearance you between them. I bought a big one with 50mm OD and 48mm ID, and I am thinking it's a bit large.
you need pure oxygen to make ozen, else wise this setup will generate nitric dioxide, because atmosphere is 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen, ratio of 7:2 . it will act as an birkeland eyed rector which use raw air to make nitric acid from nitric dioxide.
never apologize for a cesium project or your English mate ;-) Also I have the feeling we may be some distance apart but I may be able to help out with mill and lathe work if you need it I know it's not the current pattern on patreon but if you had a $1 tier I'd sign up on that. I don't actively manage my patreon so I just leave them running.
Thank you for your positive feedback! Depending on what the shipping costs are, that would be great! Where are you from? I created a 1 € Patreon tier. I think it's a good idea for people who want to support me but don't have the money.
@@zyeborm Thank you a lot! I really appreciate it! :) Yes, I am from Germany. I guess the shipping would only be possible for small parts. But I will keep your offer in mind!
Hallo, Du möchtest stark konzentriertes Ozon? Ozon ist wesentliche schwerer als Sauerstoff. Du montierst eine Glasplatte mit dem Fliegengitter auf beiden Seiten in einen hohen abschließbaren Behälter. Oben füllst Du Sauerstoff ein und unten bekommst Du Ozon raus.
I would love an efficient version of this, perhaps more thought-out and professionally designed, such that it takes as little electrical power necessary to convert a stream of pure oxygen to a stream of 95%+ ozone, at a decent speed. I could use this to turbocharge an oxy-fuel torch like oxy acetylene. of course, I would be very careful with this and only use it outside and in ventilated areas, but fortunately the smell of ozone is pretty potent, and I would surely know if there was a leak, and unlike a pressurized gas cylinder, I can just turn off or unplug the generator, and the ozone stops, no pressurized gas necessary. also, how dangerous/ unstable is liquid ozone? could someone make half a liter of it?
No, it's borosilicate glass. Quartz would be better but the boro seems to take the temperature quite well. But I can't run the generator at full power for long because the glass will eventually crack. The PLA wouldn't like the temperature either.
@@AdvancedTinkering I'm thinking I should look out for an oxygen concentrator. I'm in need of a glass working torch setup now that I've taken on project of building a glass lathe. I was watching a few videos about concentrators lastnight after your video. All I'd need is a compressor which I have, zeolite in two chambers, then tubing, solenoid valves and controller
I would love to see a homemade concentrator. There are a few videos online but not many. Depending on what you have available, it could be cheaper than buying one.
Sorry for asking, but how are you doing it with the German Taxes and the patron. I also wanted to do that for something else, but every time i looked into it there was no easy way of doing it without creating huge problems with laws and taxation. Can you give some hints on how you do it? Thanks for the Video, got me back thinking about starting my old projects again.
Hallo, Ich nehme an du bist Deutscher, deshalb antworte ich dir mal auf deutsch. Ich liege mit Patreon ja weit unter dem Steuerfreibetrag. Sollte also kein Problem sein denke ich.
@@AdvancedTinkering ja das habe ich auch gedacht aber die sagten zu mir da es fällt zwar unter §19 ustg "Kleinunternehmerregelung" also man muss keine Umsatzsteuer abführen aber melden muss man es dennoch. Weil das Amt ausgeht sobald man nur etwas Geld bekommt sei es YT oder Patron es als Gewinnabsicht eingestuft wird, da wiederkehrend blub blub. . An sich ist das ja kein so ein Aufwand, Problem ist nur wenn man sowas anmeldet, muss man das auch dem Arbeitgeber melden da Nebentätigkeit und so und das finden die meist nicht so lustig. Wüsste jetzt auch nicht wie ich das in der Steuerformulare melden müsste ist ja unversteuertes einkommen oder so. muss ich wohl auch nochmal bei den Steuer fuzis nachfragen wie man das machen muss ;) Danke und weiter so!
So what's the difference between your method and the Birkland Eyde process when making nitric acid? It seems to me that if you bubbled the air passing over that spark through water you'd synthesise nitric acid, or is it ozonic acid? 🤣🤣🤣
Mach doch eine isolierte Spirale in dem Rohr rein, sodass es Läger braucht, um durchzusickern. Oder roll Malervlies Tapete (das Zeug, das aus Glasfaser besteht und wie Papier aus sieht), damit der Sauerstoff länger im Entladungsbereich bleibt🤔
You have better English than some English speaking people I know. Great project!
Thank you!
There is absolutely no need for you to apologies about your English. 95% of people (totally made up stat ) are able to speak their native tongue, let alone a second language (myself included). I love all of your work. I love the collaborations you do. Keep it up.
I appreciate that you do these videos in English.
Never apologize for speaking your non native language incorrectly, I didn't hear any grammar or pronunciation errors in this video to begin with.
Thank you!
I love that there are more people like myself who prefer to build such things by themself instead of buying. Great video
Thank you!
The journey is more important than the final result sometimes
This is a great vid. I ended up here because my spring water taste and smells bad after being stored in the 5 gallon PET bottles. I was told an ozone generator can fix that. Great vid. Very educational.
You can produce liquid ozone similar to how you produce liquid oxygen. By passing ozonated oxygen through a collector which is chilled to liquid nitrogen temperatures, you can obtain an oxygen/ozone condensate. Once a sufficient amount of liquid is collected, the oxygen is allowed to boil off by slowly letting the temperature rise, leaving almost pure liquid ozone behind. We did this in our research lab, but I cannot remember what the half-life is for the transition back to oxygen.
Yeah that way you can isolate it pretty well, but well it also can also explode..
It is a dark purple blue liquid and is very unstable. It is similar to nitroglycerin in aensitivity, and if it reaches boiling it goes off on its own. Chemical Force channel shows liquid ozone and its chemical properties, his was about 70% pure as well. 😲
@@christopherleubner6633 Ours was light purple, but our optical path through it was only a few millimeters.
@@Kairos-XIII-2 As long as it’s in a rocket that may be a good thing.
*Looks at Florine-Lithium-Hydrogen Rocket* …errrrr maybe you’re right.
I've heard various half-lives of ozone between 30 Minutes up to 2 hours.
Thanx for sharing your experience.Please keep in mind that; high voltage corona discharge also produces infrared, ultraviolet, Gamma, and X radiation. So dont forget to protect yourself!
What i found works well is the center tube is a thin glass tube stuffed with steel wool then a thin gap with an outer tube that fits the inner one with about 3mm gap. If the outer tube is made of metal then it must be ozone resistant, otherwise wrap the outer tube with foil. Feed with dry oxygen gas and drive with high frequency AC. Also works well for gas phase chlorination etc 🤓
I think you could also pipe the gas through the center tube to get more ozone output. It's a very neat project!
I thought this too
Could also maybe run them in a cascade!
Stop worrying about your accent, people who complain about that are not worth their salt anyway, its fine :)
In my country, Germans are considered highly intelligent people, so his mild accent actually lends him an air of expertise in my ears 😊
@@TeslaFactory yeah, I agree with you
I have a PLA rack in my sterilization cabinet. It has been used for about 150-300 hours at about 100-150ppm and few hours at 1000-2500ppm ozone level. All at room temperature but at high humidity (RH 80% or more) that makes ozone more reactive. It has held up surprisingly well. My ozone sensor module (MQ-131) has not taken those levels without changing it a couple times. (and some nitrous oxides too, because I make ozone from air).
If my light 2mm rods in a grill like rack have not fallen apart, larger end caps should take quite a lot more abuse.
Thank you for the information!
Hi, @11:31 you should add a insulator in space between power supply and HV generator: due HV transformer: should an arc occour, it will be only in your HV generator (which will fry something and then, blow the fuse) and not between HV generator and your power supply (which will have unpredictable effects).
Also, i suggest you to add more insulation between HV cables and metallic objects.
Thank you for these good suggestions!
The good news is at the voltage this runs at, it's not looking to jump far. Extra layer of heat shrink on the HV leads be plenty
Great video! I look forward to seeing what you do with the ozone. There's nothing wrong with your English, or your accent, don't worry about that.
Just got around an hour ago to watch your latest video on cesium auride, now i get a second one? Whooooo!
I actually love ur accent. It's interesting.
Thanks! :)
What a Humble Gentleman
I found your channel by accident. And just delighted with your hobbies. The synthesis of cesium, rubidium and compounds of these metals is great. About the ozone. There is an interesting method for obtaining ozone by electrolysis of chloric acid during cooling. Would you like to try this method? In general, I am with great respect for people who have such hobbies. Since I myself am like it. Only my interests in organic chemistry. I was not very lucky with the place of birth. I live in Russia. You understand probably that now this is not the best place on Earth. Good luck in the experiments!
Everyone needs one! Mandatory!
Great work!
Great video, very clear. Pity about the first high voltage supply, I have a similar power supply for my ozone generator which is also a tube similar to yours (I didn’t make it, just bought the parts and assembled it) so I think it should have worked. You can get oxygen from electrolysis of NaOH solution in water depending on how much ozone you need. Have you made your own concentrator?
You could run your gas through both tubes to expose it to more plasma. Have the entry point on one side in the outer tube, exit on the same side from the inner tube after gas flowed down one tube and back through the other.
Thank you! Yes, I think I will change the design and let the gas flow around and also trough the inner tube to get more ozone.
I bought a used concentrator. It's the same one I use for my glassblowing.
KOH is a much better electrolyte for oxygen generation albeit more expensive.
@@AdvancedTinkering Ever thought of trying the ozone into ammonia stunt, Ex&I had not so much success with?
Peek is insanely expensive... Last time I saw it wad $600us for 500grams! Great generator mate 👍
Ah yes I’ve been waiting for this. Nice!
What is the required supply voltage or current needed for the corona generation?
is there any calculations to find it?
Warum sind die Elektroden Gitter im direkten Kontakt mit dem Rohr? Ist ein kleiner Luft Puffer zwischen Dielektrikum nicht besser? Also z. B innen Rohr in end anliegend und aussen eigenen Abstand von paar mm?
I was wondering because I work at a Hilton hotel and whenever a room smells (either reeking of cigarette smoke, or room smelling bad, anytime a room smells unpleasant we use this machine to make room smell better) and wanted to understand how this machine works
Fascinating! You make it look easy. Be sure to get a good lawyer and buy a patent on your simple design, after you titrate that is. You accent makes English speakers feel, well, rather simple for not thinking of this themselves, so no need to apologize.
Very interesting. There is no need to apologize for your English - it was all clear and easy to understand. I look forward to seeing your followup to test yield of the device.
Is the inner most glass tube sealed, with no input gas passing? Or is ok to leave open?
Thank you! The inner tube in my design is closed. But it would be even better if the oxygen passes around and trough the inner tube. I may change that in a later design.
Would you be able to upload the files for those 3D Printer Brackets somewhere like Thingiverse/Printables (if you haven’t already) ?
Maybe I'm thinking SMD components and not certain actually, though seems like will be a good idea to isolate the electronics from the ozone more maybe? Nasty stuff to inhale and be around... though effective. Neat work as always.
I appreciate your attention to detail and your English is spot on. I look forward to more videos. Do you do anything with CNC or Laser engraving? I would like to see some videos on your 3d printing skills and setup? Subscribed
Thank you! I appreciate it!
Sadly I do not have a CNC or laser engraver. I don't have enough space for it.
I will keep in mind to include some more of the 3D printing in my videos!
We at Pure Water For All Foundation have been working on this problem for decades
You could probably coat the PLA in something to protect it without fussing with more expensive or fiddly filaments.
if you were to pass the oxygen back through the centre tube, wouldn't that double the efficiency?
I have always wondered: does it not make sense to have the central tube continuously vented in the same path? ‘It’ produces ozone on that side too right? Seems that potential is now lost?
Why does the oxygen flow only across the outer grid? Does the inner grid have a coronal discharge as well?
Why didn't you make the caps out of metal, like brass for example? Why print from plastic?
Nice! I would like to build a ozone generator in the future! Like your video!👍Keep up!
I really hope you ended up putting some sort of viewing window on that box. It would be a shame to hide such a cool visual effect. Excellent project, beautiful English.
Aren't you wasting half the corona? since it is AC it might be better to have air flow around the outer channel then through the middle before exiting?
Yes you are absolutely right. It would be better to direct the gass around and through the inner tube. I didn't think about that when I was building it. If I need the ozon generator in the future I will print new caps for the ends that do exactly what you mentioned.
Bravo.......great build.........plasma gives off .......uv light.......and other stuff........eyes .......cheers
would be useful to add a small fan to help air recirculation
Excellent video, what are the dimensions of the reactor, the electrode and dielectric diameters ? Thnx
How about making the glass tubes yourself? Always another layer to get lost in
How can we add regulator with it or control the grams per hour ?
Does it matter which electrode is ground? What about if it’s positive or negative or AC?
4:48 legit me everytime i do anything DIY, all my grounds now go to the neutral, i have given up
(presumably the GFCI (FI schutzschalter) tripped and not the mains breaker?)
Just wondering, but is the length of the discharge tube related to the ammount of ozone produced?
What OD and ID do your quartz tubes have? I am trying to figure out how much clearance you between them. I bought a big one with 50mm OD and 48mm ID, and I am thinking it's a bit large.
you need pure oxygen to make ozen, else wise this setup will generate nitric dioxide, because atmosphere is 78% nitrogen and 21% oxygen, ratio of 7:2 . it will act as an birkeland eyed rector which use raw air to make nitric acid from nitric dioxide.
Could you post your rate of ozone generation relative to your volt, current and area of mesh?
Just a thought, can an excilamp be made using this tube dielectric barrier discharge that you used?
You would have to tweak the design but it should be possible. But I am not very familiar with these lamps. I may look into this in the future.
Superman said thank you
Hi, could you tell me, where do you buy the high voltaje generator , please? Thanks
never apologize for a cesium project or your English mate ;-)
Also I have the feeling we may be some distance apart but I may be able to help out with mill and lathe work if you need it
I know it's not the current pattern on patreon but if you had a $1 tier I'd sign up on that. I don't actively manage my patreon so I just leave them running.
Thank you for your positive feedback!
Depending on what the shipping costs are, that would be great! Where are you from?
I created a 1 € Patreon tier. I think it's a good idea for people who want to support me but don't have the money.
@@AdvancedTinkering I'm from Australia I'm guessing you're Europe, Germany perhaps?
@@AdvancedTinkering 4 patreons :-)
@@zyeborm Thank you a lot! I really appreciate it! :)
Yes, I am from Germany. I guess the shipping would only be possible for small parts. But I will keep your offer in mind!
why ss instead of aluminum which has better conductivity?
What transformer would be best for this application
Your English was perfect
Super! Thank you very much!
Nice build man. And the English is good enough 😉
Thank you! :)
Hallo, Du möchtest stark konzentriertes Ozon? Ozon ist wesentliche schwerer als Sauerstoff. Du montierst eine Glasplatte mit dem Fliegengitter auf beiden Seiten in einen hohen abschließbaren Behälter. Oben füllst Du Sauerstoff ein und unten bekommst Du Ozon raus.
I would love an efficient version of this, perhaps more thought-out and professionally designed, such that it takes as little electrical power necessary to convert a stream of pure oxygen to a stream of 95%+ ozone, at a decent speed. I could use this to turbocharge an oxy-fuel torch like oxy acetylene. of course, I would be very careful with this and only use it outside and in ventilated areas, but fortunately the smell of ozone is pretty potent, and I would surely know if there was a leak, and unlike a pressurized gas cylinder, I can just turn off or unplug the generator, and the ozone stops, no pressurized gas necessary. also, how dangerous/ unstable is liquid ozone? could someone make half a liter of it?
Is that quartz glass youre using ?
No, it's borosilicate glass. Quartz would be better but the boro seems to take the temperature quite well. But I can't run the generator at full power for long because the glass will eventually crack. The PLA wouldn't like the temperature either.
@@AdvancedTinkering I'm thinking I should look out for an oxygen concentrator. I'm in need of a glass working torch setup now that I've taken on project of building a glass lathe. I was watching a few videos about concentrators lastnight after your video. All I'd need is a compressor which I have, zeolite in two chambers, then tubing, solenoid valves and controller
I would love to see a homemade concentrator. There are a few videos online but not many.
Depending on what you have available, it could be cheaper than buying one.
Nice work
Sorry for asking, but how are you doing it with the German Taxes and the patron. I also wanted to do that for something else, but every time i looked into it there was no easy way of doing it without creating huge problems with laws and taxation. Can you give some hints on how you do it? Thanks for the Video, got me back thinking about starting my old projects again.
Hallo,
Ich nehme an du bist Deutscher, deshalb antworte ich dir mal auf deutsch. Ich liege mit Patreon ja weit unter dem Steuerfreibetrag. Sollte also kein Problem sein denke ich.
@@AdvancedTinkering ja das habe ich auch gedacht aber die sagten zu mir da es fällt zwar unter §19 ustg "Kleinunternehmerregelung" also man muss keine Umsatzsteuer abführen aber melden muss man es dennoch. Weil das Amt ausgeht sobald man nur etwas Geld bekommt sei es YT oder Patron es als Gewinnabsicht eingestuft wird, da wiederkehrend blub blub. . An sich ist das ja kein so ein Aufwand, Problem ist nur wenn man sowas anmeldet, muss man das auch dem Arbeitgeber melden da Nebentätigkeit und so und das finden die meist nicht so lustig. Wüsste jetzt auch nicht wie ich das in der Steuerformulare melden müsste ist ja unversteuertes einkommen oder so. muss ich wohl auch nochmal bei den Steuer fuzis nachfragen wie man das machen muss ;) Danke und weiter so!
i want to purchase
Hi can i buy it??
cool stuff!
Instead of 3d printing plastic why not just use carvings from wood?
Does this ozone have an odor?
Yes, ozone always has an odor.
Why would you make an ozone generator? Isnt ozone toxic to breathe in?
For cleaning purpuses ozone can kill viruses and bacteria.
which oxygen generator?
It is a Phillips EverFlo oxygen concentrator. They are normally used for medical purposes.
Sir cornona discharge me nitrogen form hota hai kya
So what's the difference between your method and the Birkland Eyde process when making nitric acid? It seems to me that if you bubbled the air passing over that spark through water you'd synthesise nitric acid, or is it ozonic acid? 🤣🤣🤣
Finally a solutions for global warming
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LMFAO!!
Ozone is not toxic for you body at all.. quite the opposite
It definitely is. But it of course depends on the dose (just like everything).
How to treat waste water using corona discharge
Can You help me for project means Ckt daigram
ONE MESH IN TUBE ONE MESH OUTSIDE OF TUBE.
china quality 🤣
Mach doch eine isolierte Spirale in dem Rohr rein, sodass es Läger braucht, um durchzusickern. Oder roll Malervlies Tapete (das Zeug, das aus Glasfaser besteht und wie Papier aus sieht), damit der Sauerstoff länger im Entladungsbereich bleibt🤔