BlueSCSI just straight up makes ye olden macs downright attractive as a retro machine. Turns one of the hardest parts of retro into something that's downright Simple to pull. Bravo.
I love the Quadra 605. I purchased one back in fall of 1994 to be my new main machine. The brittle plastics are really a problem these days, especially if you try and source one through the mail. I have yet to purchase one that didn't arrive completely destroyed, even when well packaged. Your upgrades are great, and that new BlueSCSI tool is really useful. Overclocking to 33Mhz adds some real speed improvement, and also is easily reversible, so you should consider doing that. Just add a CPU heat sink with some thermal tape and thermal compound, as that CPU you're using, from 1992, might run a bit hot at 33Mhz. Good to see this great machine reviewed. Thanks for the great content!
The problem is people won't package it correctly. If it is properly packaged, it will be fine shipping through the mail. I think the problem is shipping has gone up so much, that people are doing everything they can to keep costs down, including not packaging it correctly. Packing it correctly will add 5-10 pounds to the weight. Plus all the packaging material costs money. It can easily mean twice the price to pack it right.
@@tarstarkusz The last two I bought, the hard drive and floppy drive broke lose inside the case during shipping, and smashed around in transit to me. The internal plastics are just as fragile as the case plastics in general (look at the fan clip that Colin broke) and no matter of packaging by a seller will protect from all of this kind of damage. I've had Q605 shipped to me in a double-box, wrapped in numerous layers of bubble wrap, and suspended in another box around packing peanuts. The back ports panel broke off, and the whole side cracked. There was a handful of powdery dust in the middle that was some of the brittle plastic that broke off that was pulverized. It's not all down to seller's properly packing them, as I can tell you the sellers I bought from all packaged them well.
@@Mr.Fahrenheit_451 Never had that happen. But what you can do is ask the seller to open the computer and pack it full of packing material. I've seen this happen with antique radios with big heavy speakers (usually if the seller and buy know what they are doing, they remove the speaker and ship it in a second box just for this reason). But these have a ton of mass with big old transformer on the back of the speaker (they don't have a permanent magnet). A floppy drive is pretty light and the weight is uniform and not multiple inches from the mounting point (which creates a lot of torque).
Another excellent video, thanks for sharing! I really like that you highlighted the new features of the BlueSCSI - it’s great to see retro Mac computing getting even easier nowadays.
Restoring and upgrading vintage computers like the Mac from 1993 is a fascinating way to learn about the evolution of technology. It's impressive to see how skilled enthusiasts can breathe new life into old machines and preserve their historical significance. This video is a great example of the passion and expertise that goes into this process.
The LC475 was my first computer back in 1994. When the PRAM battery ran out, it was possible to still boot the machine by turning it on-off-on quickly. I recall also struggling with the 4MB ram limit; to be able to launch Prince of Persia 2, I think I resorted to replacing ‘Finder’ in the System folder with a copy of the PoP2 executable, so the machine booted straight into the game.
I love using a bridge machine with Zip, Jaz, and magneto optical drives, and those same types on my vintage Mac hardware. Really makes you feel like it's 1995 all over again.
Hey Colin, HUGE fan of your videos! I'm the guy who bought that first Quadra from FreeGeek Twin Cities, awesome addition to my collection. Thank you for all the work you've put into it!
My middle school had both the Macintosh Quadra and LC models, they even got external CD and Zip drives in the lab. Played lot of games like Dr Quandary, Carmen Sandiego, Mavis Beacon on those Macs!
I had the Performa 475 model. I maxed out the RAM and upped the HDD to a Seagate 320MB SCSI. Played a lot of SimCity 2000 on that machine and hours of AOL chat room using my GlobalVillage Teleport Gold modem. Good times.
Everytime that I see olds Macs, i remember the Quadra 660AV with the monitor, that I got free from a guy who taught me to repair PC's. That was 20 years ago, and stupidly went to the trash because it was missing the hard drive and i was too young and broke to get a SCSI hard disk. It only survives the processor that I saved for my collection.
Used to have a 605 when I was a kid, which had been bought for very cheap when it had been discontinued and CompUSA was trying to get rid of it. It's my favorite Mac model ever -- it wasn't super slow, nor super fast, and with a SCSI CD-ROM drive I had loaded it up with a ton of shareware games from Metatec's NautilusCD magazine. Unfortunately the power supply fried at some point and it was thrown out sometime in the late 90s.
It is always a fun time whenever a Mac finds its way into my fleet of computers. Of all the non-windows devices I have encountered, it is by far the most common, the other two being a single Alpha workstation and a wireless router with OpenWRT preinstalled(and yes I do consider OpenWRT to be a "computer", albeit a somewhat limited one, because I have used one to run a web/file server).
My first Macintosh was a second hand Performa 460 in 1996 that I was able to get to 20MB of RAM and maxed out VRAM, I think it had the 80MB drive in it. That computer was a workhorse for me until 2000 when I updated it with a beige box G3. Since then I have always had a Mac as an available computer.
I think it's crazy how just 2 years after this was released, the lowest end mac used a 66mhz power pc chip that's nearly 3x the clock speed, and able to do several times the work per clock. The rate of technological advancement has slown down so much since then, no more do we see 5x improvements in 2 years, which is both a good and bad thing, it means you can keep a pc longer, but it also means power users have to wait longer for faster chips.
ohhh, memories come back, the LCIII was the first Macintosh computer in our company. Later Power PCs. My LCIII with 21" monitor was in use from 1994 to the 2000s because we used LabView to control our systems. It was a nice computer for its time and I liked it better than the Intels under Windows.
I bought a 7200/90 in the mid 2000s. I wish I'd hung onto it but it only ran for a year and then spewed smoke. It was enough time to pass Pathways into Darkness at least with cheats. I didn't get another mac after that until last year when I bought and refurbished a 2015 MacBook Pro. Also has Pathways into darkness on it! (I actually bought it back in the early 90s to play on my Mac IIsi)
I had the LC-II version of this with a 12 Inch Sony Trinitron Monitor when I was teaching in the 90s. I LOVED it and had a great time using it in class and later at home until my school district went all PC And it was auctioned off with the rest of the Macs! 😢 I will be able in 2023 to look for a LC/Quadra as I have a bunch of CD's with many maps for games like Doom, Duke Nukem and a few others which I used on my various Macs at home. Hopefully I will have a small table with a Pizza Mac and a Monitos Keyboard & mouse Playing my hear out. BTW, when a game says "use System 7.5 or above" How far up the Mac systems can it work on.
it's like action retro with cool daylight LUT, my god! e: also these are from the northern wastes of new york, suny potsdam is a particularly miserable place that i'm personally fond of
I got an LC II and LC III a few years ago. The LC II is dirty, but works fine, but the LC III was a total loss. The battery leaked and corroded EVERYTHING, including the metal shielding. The plastics were so brittle that they were breaking off even with the gentlest touch. In the end, I salvaged the processor, floppy drive, memory and a network card from the LC III, and sent everything else to recicling. Apropos, what is the best way to connect machines like and LC II and this Quadra to a modern VGA monitor? I had an Apple Color Monitor, but I seem to have misplaced it when moving home, as I can't find it anywhere.
8:41 For these types of situations, I just cut out some plastic from any suitable food packaging, less sophisticated, but does the job mostly. Just for personal necessary repairs, of course. Man, i feel like roughing it mc Guyver man.
I learned something new today! I always thought the Quadra 605 was identical to the Performa/LC 475, didn’t realize that it had slightly different styling.
When I was running an Amiga shop I upgrae many Mac of this time, the 68LC040 was just a way to limitts its performance by Apple, when you just upgrade to a 68040 (Amiga spare parts) it makes it so much better and faster. Sure cheaper than the big quadra and as fast as them. All what apple hate a good, cheap and fast computer.
Good work on the upgrades (minus the brittle plastic, of course) 😕. Seems like more people are done trying to be period correct especially with hard drives.
I have restored many of these. If you have an old Mac, please reach out to us and we'll hook you up. The PSU and logic board both need recapping on these.
You should stop using those batteries and use a MeowToast instead which allows a CR2032 to be used, no leaks. I didn't know about the Blue SCSI Transfer feature, must be new.
10:01 "...which was a lot less expensive than upgrading after the fact". Wow, how things have changed, now it's the complete opposite... if you imagine Apple machines were still upgradable in any department, which they are not at all anymore (not even storage).
The broken plastic you can reinforcement with a grill like mosquito windows to give more stability that use the guy that soldering the bumpers in cars. Look polyvalence videos
Hi There my name is Mr Cannadine T. Boxill-Harris, how have you been Keeping up to Lately, I was wondering if you need to do the other way round Lyrics in you’re own word Lyrics but sing it differently in the original Extended background Versions of those Particular song’s By Andrew Gold and The Korgis, Never Let her Slip Away and Everybody got to learn Sometime, why don’t they just Replace the Synthesizer String Sound to a Two Musette Accordion’s sounds and make this Musette sounds for the Two Accordion’s 4 to 7 and a half times more Deeper then the Original Synthesizer String Sound that they have this Particular song called Everybody’s got to Learn sometime and also Replace the Xylophone Sound to a 21 Times More Deeper Chime Bell or Even a 26 Times More Deeper Still Drum Sound, Because it is Still one of my Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Favorite Song’s Ever Since I was about 10 Years of Age Thank You and I Like 👍 you’re Remixing and make you’re singing 5 and a half times more Deeper XX
DMPS...Des Moines Public Schools? Makes sense since you're only a state away. I know for a fact I have a few units in my collection with similar markings.
Some years ago, I worked in education and I upgraded the LC475 as much as I could to fulfil my duties as an IT technician. Sadly, I fell ill and was off work for almost a year. During that time, the small horde of classic Macs I had accumulated were dispatched to the recyclers, at the instruction of a disgruntled head of faculty with an axe to grind. A few years ago, I picked up another LC475 and I have also tried to upgrade it to enjoy many of the programs I used back in the 90’s. When they were clearing out all of the old Mac hardware and software that remained, I got first dibs on many original installation disks. There are hundreds of them, still boxed. I hope to return to the LC475 and do a proper job to retrobrite it. I’ve already replaced the logic board caps and the PSU caps and added a SCSI2SD unit to it. I’m thinking I could make a bracket for a full SD card like yours. I managed to source filament that closely matches the platinum Mac colour, from Germany.
Another very enjoyable episode. I have a lot of nostalgia for 90s era Macs. I started using them in 1991 (specifically an LC) as a postdoctoral fellow. I was happy enough with them at work that I bought one (a Mac IIvi) for home use . That was the first computer that I ever actually owned myself. Seeing System 7.1 again always brings a smile to my face.
I did the 33MHz mod on mine - definitely worth doing for the 10 to 15 minutes it takes. Also - the PPC Upgrade for these is killer - they run at double the bus speed, so if you increase the bus, you increase the PPC card speed as well - all the CPU's i've encountered on those are 75MHz versions, so you could even do a bus mod for 37.5MHz with the spicy o'clock to get it to run at that speed, whilst still keeping the serial ports working properly.
I used to do a lot of IT support for schools in Silicon Valley back in the mid-90's and worked on dozens of these, mainly upgrades to add video input cards. They mostly were used in the magnet schools that had large budgets for educational tools, the rest of the schools had whatever was being donated from local companies, hundreds of 8088,s 386s, and Apple IIe's. During lunch breaks we would load Marathon on the Quadra's for some local multiplayer.
Does anyone else think old Mac desktops look better than any recent offering? This slim line model could easily fit the latest chipsets and motherboards with room to spare.
I've restored many of these slab Macs and love the LC475/Q605 ❤ I find them to be the perfect systems for running 7.1 era software, nice small, compact, and quiet. And of course with a BlueSCSI A *really* good fan replacement I will use on these is the Gelid FN-SX06-32 which you can get off Amazon or cheaper off DigiKey
You should stick the molex power adapter for the scsi hdd inside of the case otherwise it will be lost over time. same with the popped out bracket where you installed the SD Card Slot
Very nice work, thanks for sharing. These Quadra machines always had a certain charm to them, even for me who never really cared too much about their computers in the 90s. Good to see them restored. Cheers!
when I was IT coordinator in a high school back in 1997 we had a whole room of these , they were pretty much useless by that time, but I could have got $350 for each one from an Apple store which sold second hand units, the admin scotched the idea , the bursar said they could be used as typewriters ! Of course they just were abused by the kids. and two years later they ALL went to landfill.
The plastics on my Q605's case shatter with even the slightest handling, so I've opted to swap my Q605's board into an LC III case. I also prefer the angled stance of the LC III so it's a win-win. The Q605 will also accept a 128MB SIMM too. It's completely unnecessary, but a fun upgrade.
For those that don't know as plastics age they degass becoming brittle and some types of plastic are worse while others hold up longer but eventually they all get to be like this given long enough.
Awesome! A freinds of mine gave me an apple centrist 660AV which looks about as bland as you can get. Only interesting in that It was only sold for 3 months
This was the first color mac my family got new. It was the first computer I had that I burned a CD on (took 20mins), and also got on the internet (with a 9600 baud modem). I also remember getting a new hard drive, and I thought at the time “I’ll never fill this up” -it was 1GB. Ha. Soon, I discovered Napster, and I quickly realized 1GB isn’t that big. Overall, the 605 was good initially, but it aged quickly with its small RAM upgrade options. I remember it crashed…a TON, and was slow due to virtual memory. Thanks for the nostalgia!
That was my first Mac. I had the little plastic clock chip overclocking doohickey. I still think it's a sleek design. And Connectix RAM DOUBLER was crazy.
Yeah, I'm putting the finishing touches to a video where I basically do the same thing to a Performa 475.... So no I didn't copy lol I also featured this in my MARCHintosh videos for this year
System 7.5.3 is too new for this machine. If my memory is not failing me, this was the newest mac OS version that can be installed on a non-power pc Mac. System 7.1 is MUCH better for this machine. Glad you chose it.
Your memory is failing you. 8.1 can run on 68(LC)040's. First OS I bought in box, for my Performa 475, with its original 68LC040 CPU, but upgraded RAM (can't remember how much I had at the time, now it has 36MB). Before that I ran 7.1P6 (I think P6 was what came with the machine, but sadly I've long since lost the floppies), various 7.5.x, and 7.6.1. But yeah, 7.1 is much faster, especially with stock RAM, though higher versions may offer wanted features.
@@little_fluffy_clouds The question is, why would you put 8.1 on a Quadra 700? Nothing that requires system 8 is going to run well or really at all on an 040 CPU
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God that crt power on noise, I love it
The flashbacks are real
I won the "which BlueSCSI vendor do I choose" roulette. HA! Glad our little project was able to help you out!
thanks for making it!!
How do I get one of these
We love 'ya Joe!
BlueSCSI just straight up makes ye olden macs downright attractive as a retro machine. Turns one of the hardest parts of retro into something that's downright Simple to pull.
Bravo.
I love the Quadra 605. I purchased one back in fall of 1994 to be my new main machine. The brittle plastics are really a problem these days, especially if you try and source one through the mail. I have yet to purchase one that didn't arrive completely destroyed, even when well packaged. Your upgrades are great, and that new BlueSCSI tool is really useful. Overclocking to 33Mhz adds some real speed improvement, and also is easily reversible, so you should consider doing that. Just add a CPU heat sink with some thermal tape and thermal compound, as that CPU you're using, from 1992, might run a bit hot at 33Mhz. Good to see this great machine reviewed. Thanks for the great content!
The problem is people won't package it correctly. If it is properly packaged, it will be fine shipping through the mail.
I think the problem is shipping has gone up so much, that people are doing everything they can to keep costs down, including not packaging it correctly. Packing it correctly will add 5-10 pounds to the weight. Plus all the packaging material costs money. It can easily mean twice the price to pack it right.
Peanuts or styrofoam weight next to nothing, don’t they? And they will do a lot to absorb shocks. They just take up space, not weight.
@@tarstarkusz The last two I bought, the hard drive and floppy drive broke lose inside the case during shipping, and smashed around in transit to me. The internal plastics are just as fragile as the case plastics in general (look at the fan clip that Colin broke) and no matter of packaging by a seller will protect from all of this kind of damage. I've had Q605 shipped to me in a double-box, wrapped in numerous layers of bubble wrap, and suspended in another box around packing peanuts. The back ports panel broke off, and the whole side cracked. There was a handful of powdery dust in the middle that was some of the brittle plastic that broke off that was pulverized. It's not all down to seller's properly packing them, as I can tell you the sellers I bought from all packaged them well.
@@Mr.Fahrenheit_451 Never had that happen. But what you can do is ask the seller to open the computer and pack it full of packing material.
I've seen this happen with antique radios with big heavy speakers (usually if the seller and buy know what they are doing, they remove the speaker and ship it in a second box just for this reason). But these have a ton of mass with big old transformer on the back of the speaker (they don't have a permanent magnet). A floppy drive is pretty light and the weight is uniform and not multiple inches from the mounting point (which creates a lot of torque).
Loved how these decades old machines still up and running with a little bit of touch. I’d love to see a sleeper build someday or a dual os system.
That's because they're not very old. I have computers that are 15 years older and still work fine. These are no big deal.
Id love to see a modern Laptop last as long!
That Firstech photo was a throwback for me. I can’t tell you the tens of thousands of dollars I’ve spent at that store for work years ago.
Another excellent video, thanks for sharing! I really like that you highlighted the new features of the BlueSCSI - it’s great to see retro Mac computing getting even easier nowadays.
Restoring and upgrading vintage computers like the Mac from 1993 is a fascinating way to learn about the evolution of technology. It's impressive to see how skilled enthusiasts can breathe new life into old machines and preserve their historical significance. This video is a great example of the passion and expertise that goes into this process.
The LC475 was my first computer back in 1994. When the PRAM battery ran out, it was possible to still boot the machine by turning it on-off-on quickly. I recall also struggling with the 4MB ram limit; to be able to launch Prince of Persia 2, I think I resorted to replacing ‘Finder’ in the System folder with a copy of the PoP2 executable, so the machine booted straight into the game.
I had no idea that was even a thing you could do. Now I regret never getting a chance to try it.
Yeah yeah. Those were the days, I know. lol Back in the late 90's. LOLOOLOLOL
I still prefer bridge machines TBH, it gives me a reason to use some of my older machines.
I love using a bridge machine with Zip, Jaz, and magneto optical drives, and those same types on my vintage Mac hardware. Really makes you feel like it's 1995 all over again.
Hey Colin, HUGE fan of your videos! I'm the guy who bought that first Quadra from FreeGeek Twin Cities, awesome addition to my collection. Thank you for all the work you've put into it!
My middle school had both the Macintosh Quadra and LC models, they even got external CD and Zip drives in the lab. Played lot of games like Dr Quandary, Carmen Sandiego, Mavis Beacon on those Macs!
The only thing left is to take this to a coffee shop and write a novel. But to be serious I love these kinds of videos.
For real someone should try this with an original iBook G3, sure to turn some heads
I love seeing all your work at keeping these machines going. 👏👍
I had the Performa 475 model. I maxed out the RAM and upped the HDD to a Seagate 320MB SCSI. Played a lot of SimCity 2000 on that machine and hours of AOL chat room using my GlobalVillage Teleport Gold modem. Good times.
One of my first Macs was a hand-me-down Performa 475. A lovely little computer.
I am glad a stumbled apon this channel, thank you for letting us know the oldies are goodies.
Everytime that I see olds Macs, i remember the Quadra 660AV with the monitor, that I got free from a guy who taught me to repair PC's. That was 20 years ago, and stupidly went to the trash because it was missing the hard drive and i was too young and broke to get a SCSI hard disk. It only survives the processor that I saved for my collection.
I always loved the design of this model. Such a cute little thing.
Used to have a 605 when I was a kid, which had been bought for very cheap when it had been discontinued and CompUSA was trying to get rid of it. It's my favorite Mac model ever -- it wasn't super slow, nor super fast, and with a SCSI CD-ROM drive I had loaded it up with a ton of shareware games from Metatec's NautilusCD magazine. Unfortunately the power supply fried at some point and it was thrown out sometime in the late 90s.
wow haha I just got a BlueSCSI from Joe's computer museum for my LC III and IIvx last week.
I love the beige, muted, understated aesthetic of PCs from the early 90's. I especially love PCs that sit underneath monitors - space savers.
My Aunt had one of these back in that timeframe. Neat.
I have a Mac Quadra 605. Cute little machine I kept for myself.
It is always a fun time whenever a Mac finds its way into my fleet of computers. Of all the non-windows devices I have encountered, it is by far the most common, the other two being a single Alpha workstation and a wireless router with OpenWRT preinstalled(and yes I do consider OpenWRT to be a "computer", albeit a somewhat limited one, because I have used one to run a web/file server).
We had those exact Mac's in my elementary school's computer lab!
We had LCIIs in my elementary school computer lab. They were pretty neat.
My first Mac was a Quadra, loved that thing so much
An LC 475 was my Mac when I was growing up - SimCity 2000 and AOL - happy days. A great little machine and massively faster than my LCII before it.
I put a 114 page magazine together on the 475, great Mac for the time, nice job on your video!
My first Macintosh was a second hand Performa 460 in 1996 that I was able to get to 20MB of RAM and maxed out VRAM, I think it had the 80MB drive in it. That computer was a workhorse for me until 2000 when I updated it with a beige box G3. Since then I have always had a Mac as an available computer.
I think it's crazy how just 2 years after this was released, the lowest end mac used a 66mhz power pc chip that's nearly 3x the clock speed, and able to do several times the work per clock. The rate of technological advancement has slown down so much since then, no more do we see 5x improvements in 2 years, which is both a good and bad thing, it means you can keep a pc longer, but it also means power users have to wait longer for faster chips.
That was my first Mac! I used it for almost 5 years.
that computer looks really cool
I remember this bad boy from my elementary school's library in Wisconsin.
ohhh, memories come back, the LCIII was the first Macintosh computer in our company. Later Power PCs. My LCIII with 21" monitor was in use from 1994 to the 2000s because we used LabView to control our systems. It was a nice computer for its time and I liked it better than the Intels under Windows.
Damn Colin. You probably dropped an F bomb when that plastic retaining clip broke! Lol
I bought a 7200/90 in the mid 2000s. I wish I'd hung onto it but it only ran for a year and then spewed smoke. It was enough time to pass Pathways into Darkness at least with cheats. I didn't get another mac after that until last year when I bought and refurbished a 2015 MacBook Pro. Also has Pathways into darkness on it! (I actually bought it back in the early 90s to play on my Mac IIsi)
No display with a battery was a majorly stupid design decision. Your micro reader update is really nice.
It's probably not a deliberate design decision.
I had the LC-II version of this with a 12 Inch Sony Trinitron Monitor when I was teaching in the 90s. I LOVED it and had a great time using it in class and later at home until my school district went all PC And it was auctioned off with the rest of the Macs! 😢 I will be able in 2023 to look for a LC/Quadra as I have a bunch of CD's with many maps for games like Doom, Duke Nukem and a few others which I used on my various Macs at home. Hopefully I will have a small table with a Pizza Mac and a Monitos Keyboard & mouse Playing my hear out.
BTW, when a game says "use System 7.5 or above" How far up the Mac systems can it work on.
Love these restorations.
I do miss my Performa 475!!!
Nice one, Colin! Especially the repair part of the latches! Would you mind sharing your BlueSCSI Support VHD?
Awesome video!
SUNY Potsdam! I’ve been there 😂🤘
it's like action retro with cool daylight LUT, my god! e: also these are from the northern wastes of new york, suny potsdam is a particularly miserable place that i'm personally fond of
Those latches might still be useful with a flexible glue such as E6000, combined with with your shims for support.
Getting files on and off Mac OS 7 is very easy with a FTP client like Fetch.
With reversible upgrades… don't loose that old hard drive!
I got an LC II and LC III a few years ago. The LC II is dirty, but works fine, but the LC III was a total loss. The battery leaked and corroded EVERYTHING, including the metal shielding. The plastics were so brittle that they were breaking off even with the gentlest touch. In the end, I salvaged the processor, floppy drive, memory and a network card from the LC III, and sent everything else to recicling.
Apropos, what is the best way to connect machines like and LC II and this Quadra to a modern VGA monitor? I had an Apple Color Monitor, but I seem to have misplaced it when moving home, as I can't find it anywhere.
8:41 For these types of situations, I just cut out some plastic from any suitable food packaging, less sophisticated, but does the job mostly. Just for personal necessary repairs, of course. Man, i feel like roughing it mc Guyver man.
I had the same cd-rom drive
What was the game in the end scene? Graphics looked vaguely like Transport Tycoon?
I had this computer as a kid. I remember upgrading to 20 megabytes of ram so we could get dial up internet.
Nice upgrades! Where do you find your RAM modules?
my Quadra 605 has a 64mb ran ram simm and a scsitosd adapter
another worthy upgrade is the ethernet card, i recently added one to my 605. It uses the slot in the back so you lose the SD card outlet capability
The 605 is a great Marathon multiplayer gaming rig. just add the 10Mbs ethernet card
I learned something new today! I always thought the Quadra 605 was identical to the Performa/LC 475, didn’t realize that it had slightly different styling.
When I was running an Amiga shop I upgrae many Mac of this time, the 68LC040 was just a way to limitts its performance by Apple, when you just upgrade to a 68040 (Amiga spare parts) it makes it so much better and faster. Sure cheaper than the big quadra and as fast as them. All what apple hate a good, cheap and fast computer.
Throw some Realmz and Escape Velocity on it, good to go!
Basically a BlueSCSI promo vid. No mention of the SCSI2SD product at all…
I’ve covered the SCSI2SD in previous episodes.
Nice! :)
Good work on the upgrades (minus the brittle plastic, of course) 😕. Seems like more people are done trying to be period correct especially with hard drives.
St.Cloud here.
I mean the utility floopy that you showed.
Free Mac for the price of two VRAM sticks...nice hustle
I have restored many of these. If you have an old Mac, please reach out to us and we'll hook you up. The PSU and logic board both need recapping on these.
You should stop using those batteries and use a MeowToast instead which allows a CR2032 to be used, no leaks. I didn't know about the Blue SCSI Transfer feature, must be new.
10:01 "...which was a lot less expensive than upgrading after the fact". Wow, how things have changed, now it's the complete opposite... if you imagine Apple machines were still upgradable in any department, which they are not at all anymore (not even storage).
16:26 -- because of course it does.
LOL
Or a well, shit.. would've sufficed as well
i went to gumtree and got an iphone 5 on ios 7.0!!!
The broken plastic you can reinforcement with a grill like mosquito windows to give more stability that use the guy that soldering the bumpers in cars. Look polyvalence videos
I don’t understand why you maxed out the internals but downgraded the OS.
It used less RAM so performance was better
@ActionRetro 😂
Hi There my name is Mr Cannadine T. Boxill-Harris, how have you been Keeping up to Lately, I was wondering if you need to do the other way round Lyrics in you’re own word Lyrics but sing it differently in the original Extended background Versions of those Particular song’s By Andrew Gold and The Korgis, Never Let her Slip Away and Everybody got to learn Sometime, why don’t they just Replace the Synthesizer String Sound to a Two Musette Accordion’s sounds and make this Musette sounds for the Two Accordion’s 4 to 7 and a half times more Deeper then the Original Synthesizer String Sound that they have this Particular song called Everybody’s got to Learn sometime and also Replace the Xylophone Sound to a 21 Times More Deeper Chime Bell or Even a 26 Times More Deeper Still Drum Sound, Because it is Still one of my Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Very Favorite Song’s Ever Since I was about 10 Years of Age Thank You and I Like 👍 you’re Remixing and make you’re singing 5 and a half times more Deeper XX
How to ruin your retro Mac 🤦♂️
DMPS...Des Moines Public Schools? Makes sense since you're only a state away. I know for a fact I have a few units in my collection with similar markings.
Some years ago, I worked in education and I upgraded the LC475 as much as I could to fulfil my duties as an IT technician.
Sadly, I fell ill and was off work for almost a year. During that time, the small horde of classic Macs I had accumulated were dispatched to the recyclers, at the instruction of a disgruntled head of faculty with an axe to grind.
A few years ago, I picked up another LC475 and I have also tried to upgrade it to enjoy many of the programs I used back in the 90’s.
When they were clearing out all of the old Mac hardware and software that remained, I got first dibs on many original installation disks. There are hundreds of them, still boxed.
I hope to return to the LC475 and do a proper job to retrobrite it. I’ve already replaced the logic board caps and the PSU caps and added a SCSI2SD unit to it. I’m thinking I could make a bracket for a full SD card like yours. I managed to source filament that closely matches the platinum Mac colour, from Germany.
Another very enjoyable episode. I have a lot of nostalgia for 90s era Macs. I started using them in 1991 (specifically an LC) as a postdoctoral fellow. I was happy enough with them at work that I bought one (a Mac IIvi) for home use . That was the first computer that I ever actually owned myself. Seeing System 7.1 again always brings a smile to my face.
I did the 33MHz mod on mine - definitely worth doing for the 10 to 15 minutes it takes. Also - the PPC Upgrade for these is killer - they run at double the bus speed, so if you increase the bus, you increase the PPC card speed as well - all the CPU's i've encountered on those are 75MHz versions, so you could even do a bus mod for 37.5MHz with the spicy o'clock to get it to run at that speed, whilst still keeping the serial ports working properly.
And then what do you do with it? Yeah. I know.
I mean to be honest how vital are fully working serial ports anyways tbh.
The 3D printed parts are great. I like it that to colour doesn't match perfectly, it signifies that it's a modern part.
I used to do a lot of IT support for schools in Silicon Valley back in the mid-90's and worked on dozens of these, mainly upgrades to add video input cards. They mostly were used in the magnet schools that had large budgets for educational tools, the rest of the schools had whatever was being donated from local companies, hundreds of 8088,s 386s, and Apple IIe's. During lunch breaks we would load Marathon on the Quadra's for some local multiplayer.
Does anyone else think old Mac desktops look better than any recent offering? This slim line model could easily fit the latest chipsets and motherboards with room to spare.
I've restored many of these slab Macs and love the LC475/Q605 ❤ I find them to be the perfect systems for running 7.1 era software, nice small, compact, and quiet. And of course with a BlueSCSI
A *really* good fan replacement I will use on these is the Gelid FN-SX06-32 which you can get off Amazon or cheaper off DigiKey
You should stick the molex power adapter for the scsi hdd inside of the case otherwise it will be lost over time. same with the popped out bracket where you installed the SD Card Slot
Very nice work, thanks for sharing. These Quadra machines always had a certain charm to them, even for me who never really cared too much about their computers in the 90s. Good to see them restored. Cheers!
when I was IT coordinator in a high school back in 1997 we had a whole room of these , they were pretty much useless by that time, but I could have got $350 for each one from an Apple store which sold second hand units, the admin scotched the idea , the bursar said they could be used as typewriters ! Of course they just were abused by the kids. and two years later they ALL went to landfill.
I have a LCII in my collection, I will get a blue SCSI for it :)
The plastics on my Q605's case shatter with even the slightest handling, so I've opted to swap my Q605's board into an LC III case. I also prefer the angled stance of the LC III so it's a win-win. The Q605 will also accept a 128MB SIMM too. It's completely unnecessary, but a fun upgrade.
For those that don't know as plastics age they degass becoming brittle and some types of plastic are worse while others hold up longer but eventually they all get to be like this given long enough.
Awesome! A freinds of mine gave me an apple centrist 660AV which looks about as bland as you can get. Only interesting in that It was only sold for 3 months
This was the first color mac my family got new. It was the first computer I had that I burned a CD on (took 20mins), and also got on the internet (with a 9600 baud modem). I also remember getting a new hard drive, and I thought at the time “I’ll never fill this up” -it was 1GB. Ha. Soon, I discovered Napster, and I quickly realized 1GB isn’t that big. Overall, the 605 was good initially, but it aged quickly with its small RAM upgrade options. I remember it crashed…a TON, and was slow due to virtual memory. Thanks for the nostalgia!
11:48 Now that's nice!!
Now blue scuzzy is extremely impressive
Can you send me a copy of the floppy utilities that you showed on this video?
That was my first Mac. I had the little plastic clock chip overclocking doohickey. I still think it's a sleek design. And Connectix RAM DOUBLER was crazy.
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Yeah, I'm putting the finishing touches to a video where I basically do the same thing to a Performa 475.... So no I didn't copy lol I also featured this in my MARCHintosh videos for this year
Good idea for the tab supports. I have a 650 and three PowerMac 6100/66 that all have broken lid tabs.
System 7.5.3 is too new for this machine. If my memory is not failing me, this was the newest mac OS version that can be installed on a non-power pc Mac. System 7.1 is MUCH better for this machine. Glad you chose it.
Your memory is failing you. 8.1 can run on 68(LC)040's. First OS I bought in box, for my Performa 475, with its original 68LC040 CPU, but upgraded RAM (can't remember how much I had at the time, now it has 36MB). Before that I ran 7.1P6 (I think P6 was what came with the machine, but sadly I've long since lost the floppies), various 7.5.x, and 7.6.1.
But yeah, 7.1 is much faster, especially with stock RAM, though higher versions may offer wanted features.
@@maighstir3003 From what I recall, system 7.6 was the first system to be 100% PPC. But that may have been only when installed on a PPC.
I think 8.5 was the first version to drop support for 68K Macs.
Yes, 8.1 was the last to support 040 Macs (I have it installed on my Quadra 700) and 8.5 was the first PPC-only release
@@little_fluffy_clouds The question is, why would you put 8.1 on a Quadra 700? Nothing that requires system 8 is going to run well or really at all on an 040 CPU