That was basically my idea for a "Super-Cube", Having 27 cubes merge together in a 3-Cubed configuration to attack very large or other very powerful target threats, like the 8472 race. Other ideas for it to be useful, in a hypothetical battle scenario or Sci-Fi franchises: if The Borg faced off against the Empire in a Star Trek VS Star Wars battle. Anyway, with that much resources at their disposal, to reconfigure when needed against an extremely powerful threat, they'd be an overwhelming force of destruction themselves to defeat anything necessary.
They do this when they assimilate the technology for the Spore Drive, since nothing would really change about a single cube just spinning about when they already do this with their grey-mode style flight.
I love how they went from one cube being an existential threat to the entire federation to the enterprise being able to match one in first contact to Voyager making them a complete joke. One of the worst cases of villian decay in scifi
Von Faustien You must have “rejoiced” at the lackluster Dominion defeat at the end of DS9. Odo basically “merges” with the “Queen” Changeling & she is suddenly & miraculously healed of her life threatening illness all the while abruptly ceasing the brutal war with the Alpha Quadrant elites🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️.
@Steven Strain the fact a once faceless unstoppable hive mind was gimped in effectiveness because its queen want to get in 7 of 9s jump suit is kind of hilarious.
The spacial Trajector thing really bugs me, why does the Queen need an escape method? The Queen is a system and can move into another prepared body that has the Royal protocol. She isn't an individual but a systematic interpritation of the entire collective. Since when do the borg think in such 3 dimensional terms?
Perhaps to escape with any new information they had assimilated. In the end all they need is that information to advance the rest of the collective. A subspace transmitter can be disabled or have limited range, but that's all I can think of. I assume this was intended to transport to the nearest borg ship or planet in such a circumstance. I seriously doubt they had thought of this though.
But she still needs a way to connect to them and if those are disabled then such a thing might be needed. You can rest assured that this was not a concern for whomever came up with this idea though. They probably thought "oh the queen needs a way to escape because she's important" is all the thought that went into it I'm pretty sure.
@@DeathBYDesign666 Be far more efficient and fool proof to just updoot that. Like if they explained the physical queen also carries very advanced encryption/decryption abilities and would be more efficient for them to have to occupy the designated space to upload safely. Otherwise.. just updoot the data across the collective..
I won't lie, as much as I am watching Picard for, well Picard, I am also watching for 7. I can't get enough of her. Heck, I'd watch a series with just her. And for 53, Jeris still looks amazing.
No it's slightly larger than that. It's like 3085 meters on each side or something like that. That accounts for the extra cubic kilometer, which is stated in their first encounter with the borg.
Great video about the Borg Cubes. The only problem I had with the whole video was a damn Star Wars advertisement. LOL Everyone knows that Star Trek always has been and always will be a far superior franchise than Star Wars.
I don’t think Picard had a residual link, when we saw things that may have mistakenly implied that, I believe that was the writers attempting to describe PTSD. So my point of view and observations from the Trek serie(s); Picard has memories aka knowledge from his experience as a borg and that was how and why he knew where to attack the borg cube. Does anyone else agree?
Taking out the central plexus can disrupt a Borg vessel's connection to the collective. A transphasic torpedo generated an explosion across multiple instances of spacetime thus subverting Borg shielding. The borg would eventually adapt to this technology. It would just take much longer.
Voyager gave us a bit of a nugget on their adaptation. It does not make them immune. They just need far less energy to keep their shields intact (and had personal shields) once they adapt. Drones got their shield energy via energy transponders and were only limited by their emitters, infinite feed but having a maximum output. Adapting means the drone uses the minimal output to be immune to the highest power attack of portable weapons. What they do not say is adapting one way can "un-adapt" another way. In Voyager, Seven of Nine is in a Borg diamond and given the opportunity to run the starship adaptations. If she did not adapt fast enough, the ship would be destroyed. So, they have adjustable shields that make them inferior when they are not actively adapting them... and superior because they are always adapting them because they need no more than one drone to do the adapting. It's a brilliant concept when you put a LOT of thought into it. I mean, a collective uses each mind as part of a networked collective resource, not just a unit to command. That's an astronomically high amount of processing power done just by assimilating beings into the collective to grow said power.
Would the Borg be able to adapt to hyper advanced technology like the Forerunners and the Interim Coalition of Governance? And what would they become in appearance and structure?
They are certainly capable of doing so. A remote holographic emitter from the 26th century accidentally got some of 7 of 9's nano probes on it and their base code assimilated it and grew a drone that had highly upgraded features to it in one episode of Voyager (one of the better Borg themed episodes, imho). The Borg Collective detected the new drone before the crew could jam the basic connection and sent a cube to collect the highly advanced drone so they could upgrade the entire Borg Collective with the new tech. The new drone didn't like this since he considered 7 of 9 and the Voyager crew his Collective and he suicide attacks the cube, easily destroying the entire cube by himself.
@@ChrissonatorOFL You are right, but still, the super drone did solo kill it by beaming over when Voyager had no hope at that point in time of defeating such a threat.
that was actually movie 8... movie 6 was the Undiscovered Country(alliance with hte Klingon Empire, and attempted assassination of Klingon Chancellor Gorkon) and 7 was Generations (Picard meets Kirk)
What would space combat between the Imperium navy and the Forerunners navy look like and who would win mainly and the strategies in place and weapons effects each factions' guns would have on each other?
Why did the Borg not use their Trajector and send a few million drones to the Earth and other homeplanets in the alpha quadrant to assimilate it? Did I miss something?
Except the trajector isn't new... it was first shown in Star Trek Voyager episode "Prime Factors" with the race mentioned in Picard, the Sikarians. Not to mention, you had the Iconian's in TNG with their portals.
In the series of German Sci-Fi books, Perry Rhodan, from the 60s, a race of positronic-biological beings (Posbis) uses spaceships in the form of cubes and the Earth ships, based on Arconide technology are spherical. Nothing is new, but apparently, Star Trek has a tradition of incorporating concepts from other sources, such as computer games with tardigrades.
I think what was being targeted in First Contact, was the Borg Sphere, probably for two reason. 1. Picard was trying to prevent it's launch, and 2. if they did enough damage to it, before it launched, the explosion might have destroyed the rest of the cube. This is kinda my own head canon, but is probably one of the more reasonable explanations.
As I understand it Picard targeted that area because it was the least vital area of the ship and hence the least well protected. I say this because worf says "captain, that does not appear to be a vital system" hence a vulnerable one. It's the equivalent of shooting a poison tipped arrow into the weak spot on a suit of armor. It gets the job done.
Only the planetary assimilation cube has the escape sphere. It is NOT! The same or the same size as stand alone spheres like the long range tactical sphere The Borg must have assimilation quotas to meet, as many older drones will die, I imagine the life span of drones are much longer than normal.
Hi Ben you said about adaptability for the borg could only work if you had a powerful weapon to destroy the entire cube so could the UNSC MAC cannon Destroy the cube itself or just punch a hole in it?
In 2:05 where Picard says to focus the fleet’s fire on the one specific set of coordinates-I thought it was never set that it was a centralized system. Who knows what it could have been that made that happen. (Mystery is kind of the point-Picard has some cube-data, that we don’t understand; and he has some stupendous knowledge…that we just don’t get.) What could it be? (We don’t know; and that’s the point…) 1. Maybe there was an alien set of technology or vehicle undergoing study and assimilation parked in that area of the Borg ship-and all that Federation fire would somehow interact with a chain reaction within it, blowing up the ship. 2. Speaking of vehicles, maybe the Borg had a lighter, smaller (hence not visible) alternative to the Sphere in that area which used some high-level resonance frequencies that would set off at that kind of explosion. 3. Maybe there was a warhead lodged there, a weapon of mass destruction, perhaps ready to be turned on Earth-and maybe Picard’s concern wasn’t first and foremost to destroy the cube, but to ignite and smash this weapon before it could be used on his homeworld. And maybe the sphere and the time travel plot (as odd and weird/unlikely and wonky as it was) was just a secondary or tertiary backup plan to this extreme warhead… 4. Maybe the decentralization of the systems actually would provide channels for destructive energy to course throughout all parts of the ship-if it were to be struck at the right point. (Imagine how Data, in order to save a group of settlers from the Sheliak, fired on that aqueduct from the one colony’s purification system-station, and the phaser-energy from the blast travelled up the aqueduct…blowing out sub-units along the way.) 5. Maybe there was specific time travel coalescence charge storage in that one spot-a chronicle capacitor or some such that built up invisible (to starfleet’s sensors) time travel energy. This one is kind of a “centralized system” argument, though I’m suggesting that maybe there was some specialized system, for this mission, at that weak point, not normally present in the design of most Borg Cubes. 6. Maybe the Borg expected such a broad scale attack all over the surface of their cube that their shields were turned up to some super high level. The focus of all that starfleet firepower on one spot caused the Borg shields to have nothing to resist around the rest of the Cube, and maybe their shields worked on a principle-at least with this new kind of specialized time-travel sphere-carrying cube-where they needed to push back against something. And maybe switching all the firepower of the fleet off of a general cube bombardment to that one spot, forced a sudden transfer of energy to that spot through the new Borg shields that caused system wide energy transfer systems to explode-perhaps being abetted by the specific spot having some kind of special properties with regard to the shield matrix, and/or some kind of general adjustment made to the whole cube because of the carrying of time-travel cargo and the Queen on this one ship. The point is not that any of these have to be particularly plausible, but just that they point to the idea that many alternatives could exist to the idea that the movie contradicted the Borg decentralization doctrine. Although, this doctrine has some exceptions in other shows, such as the Vinculum(?), Central Plexus(?) and the Queen Cell. Perhaps those, or other parts were at the targetted spot on the cube. Destroying the cube’s connection to the collective, or some sacred technology in the Queen Cell (like the Sikaaran(!?) trajector) might do it for a really big, ship wide compromising explosion… Anyways, love your videos-I don’t mean to criticize, just to share all my ideas!
I'm thinking that the central point that Picard had the fleed target was more structural. similar to what would happen if you took out a load-bearing wall in a house.
Another way to look at decentralized designs is to call them redundant as many structures such as power generation would be all over the ship, imagine the enterprise d with 20 warp cores and the necessary crew to service them. No wonder the cube is so big and requires 45 thousand borg! Also this doesn't necessarily scale well, lowering overall efficiency and complicating repairs to integrated systems. Your literally using the crew as slaves or worse as expendable assets. The only positive is with that much power and processing power it makes it really easy to use transwarp and survive any assault as most critical systems are buried so far inside the ship, they can't be reached by other starships!
@ 4:26 Romulans do not use 2 nacelle in their warp or even a matter/anti-matter reaction, nor do the Ferengi, and also Starfleet, there's plenty of designs with 4 nacelles, not to mention the spore drive.
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The Spatial Trajector only worked up to 40,000 ly because of the Tetrahedral Quartz on the Sikarians home planet. That Tetrahedral Quartz had a Focusing / Amplifying effect on the Spatial Trajector, allowing it such great range. And it stated that the Borg assimilated some Sikarians, not necessarily all of Sikaris. The Borg Cube obviously has far less volume then an entire planet. The fact that it had some contraption it needed to power up to use the Spatial Trajector in the Queen Cell, and only as an emergency escape, that means it has limited range. Otherwise it would be a primary method of transport. I would bet that it's Single Digit Light Years of range, which is still orders of magnitude better than SubSpace Transporting which was already orders of magnitude better than regular Transporting.
@@GenerationFilms Memory Alpha and the episode on VOY that declared how the Sikarians got the long range Spatial Trajector to work at such vast distances in the first place. Then logical analysis & extrapolation of what the Borg Queen's version can/can't do based on the evidence given on screen.
Interesting fact: at 6:20 Picard: Locate source of tractor beam Worf: Source located Picard: Fire Scene: Phaser shooting completely of target (wtf???????)
Borg: WE ARE THE BORG THe Doctor: I know very well who you are! Borg: Oh sorry... our bad... we don't like to make assumptions.. it's only polite you know?!
I missed you British Ben and I was very happy to see you on the humanity first channel to bad there’s a travel ban right now stay safe bother from across the pond
there are many flaws I noticed in the logic of this video, but here's one that directly affects the logic of voyager: as explained here 5:35 the borg are capable of time travel if they wish. we know the borg explore every possibility before a battle starts as well as in-site on a species overtime. with this in mind, the borg would have had a good chance of knowing about future janeway and would have likely prepared for this eventuality. taking a step further if the borg used time travel to scan their enemies more often they would no longer need to take a few shots in order to adapt. this would make them almost invincible in every encounter as they would know everything about their enemy as well as their exact next move based on their current timeline.
You missed the smaller Borg vessel (more rectangular in shape) that Voyager was trying to steal a trans-warp conduit from but accidentally destroyed it.
First Contact Scene [Picard spoilers]: I've always assumed that Picard was destroying his old Borg alcove which he knew to be a critical location, but with the Picard series and the conversation that occured between Hugh and Picard upon entering the Queen's chamber, I can't help but wonder if he was subconsciously having all the ships aim at that location instead.
That was hilarious "we are the Borg this is your last chance to lower your interest rates now." I get those calls all the time.
Contact your service provider they might be able to add you to a preference list or get them blocked.
Those Damn borg trying to get my credit card information
7: *_Fusion Cube_*
But if they used 27 Cubes they could make a _Rubik's Cube,_ not only more powerful, but able to baffle less advanced life forms.
And have a central core around which they could rotate the outer cubes to cycle damaged sections to the interior for auto repair.
And holographic projectors to color the cubes
It would make them easier to assimilate
That was basically my idea for a "Super-Cube", Having 27 cubes merge together in a 3-Cubed configuration to attack very large or other very powerful target threats, like the 8472 race. Other ideas for it to be useful, in a hypothetical battle scenario or Sci-Fi franchises: if The Borg faced off against the Empire in a Star Trek VS Star Wars battle. Anyway, with that much resources at their disposal, to reconfigure when needed against an extremely powerful threat, they'd be an overwhelming force of destruction themselves to defeat anything necessary.
They do this when they assimilate the technology for the Spore Drive, since nothing would really change about a single cube just spinning about when they already do this with their grey-mode style flight.
Borg have a reputation for being very environmentally aware.
Everyone goes on about how _green_ their technology is.
Hehe
baaaad
does this mean borg are future democrats
@@Nick-ke1wi no, if they were they'd be begging starfleet to beat them into submission.
Hehehe
Ben: A circle has already been done *shows the Death Star*
Inside my head: THAT'S A SPHERE! A SPHERE!
The dude can't do 3 cubed
you called?
That’s no moon.
I love how they went from one cube being an existential threat to the entire federation to the enterprise being able to match one in first contact to Voyager making them a complete joke.
One of the worst cases of villian decay in scifi
In fairness though it's portrayed that the federacion simply started building more advanced ships
Von Faustien You must have “rejoiced” at the lackluster Dominion defeat at the end of DS9. Odo basically “merges” with the “Queen” Changeling & she is suddenly & miraculously healed of her life threatening illness all the while abruptly ceasing the brutal war with the Alpha Quadrant elites🤦🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️.
The USS Voyager NEVER actually defeated a Borg Cube! Not until the finale with the future transphasic torpedo.
@Steven Strain the fact a once faceless unstoppable hive mind was gimped in effectiveness because its queen want to get in 7 of 9s jump suit is kind of hilarious.
Voyager suckes
The spacial Trajector thing really bugs me, why does the Queen need an escape method? The Queen is a system and can move into another prepared body that has the Royal protocol. She isn't an individual but a systematic interpritation of the entire collective. Since when do the borg think in such 3 dimensional terms?
Perhaps to escape with any new information they had assimilated. In the end all they need is that information to advance the rest of the collective. A subspace transmitter can be disabled or have limited range, but that's all I can think of. I assume this was intended to transport to the nearest borg ship or planet in such a circumstance. I seriously doubt they had thought of this though.
Just ignore Bad Robot/Secret Hideout crap. Picard is not real Star Trek.
@@DeathBYDesign666 but the Queen is connected to the entire collective she has no need of such a thing, the queen is the collective.
But she still needs a way to connect to them and if those are disabled then such a thing might be needed. You can rest assured that this was not a concern for whomever came up with this idea though. They probably thought "oh the queen needs a way to escape because she's important" is all the thought that went into it I'm pretty sure.
@@DeathBYDesign666
Be far more efficient and fool proof to just updoot that.
Like if they explained the physical queen also carries very advanced encryption/decryption abilities and would be more efficient for them to have to occupy the designated space to upload safely.
Otherwise.. just updoot the data across the collective..
"I am Wokutus of Broke...resistance is futile."
Resistance is frugal.
Wesistance surely? While you're there welease Woderwick.
I won't lie, as much as I am watching Picard for, well Picard, I am also watching for 7. I can't get enough of her. Heck, I'd watch a series with just her. And for 53, Jeris still looks amazing.
Yeah, I’d love a Seven series and a worf series
Bonus points for all the Stargate references and clips!
@Stink Wrinkles indeed
At 00:48, he says the cube is 3 km x 3 km x 3 km with a volume of 28 cubic km! ;->
Ha ha! It should be 27 cubic km
LOL, yeah. I was also like "...whaaaat????..."
yeah, 3 seconds after i also did the math! i was like, did i miss something? :D
Just to add to the mathematical theme. The Death Star is a sphere not a circle.
Its bigger on the inside
No it's slightly larger than that. It's like 3085 meters on each side or something like that. That accounts for the extra cubic kilometer, which is stated in their first encounter with the borg.
Great video about the Borg Cubes. The only problem I had with the whole video was a damn Star Wars advertisement. LOL Everyone knows that Star Trek always has been and always will be a far superior franchise than Star Wars.
Yes at least that won't stop making star trek
The Borg cube wasn’t all that clean. I think the Romulans went in and pulled up all the restaurant mats.
Just wait til the Borg develope their new weapon....the triangle
Funny, i got a call from Borg saying its my last chance for their Assimilated Credit Card.
I don’t think Picard had a residual link, when we saw things that may have mistakenly implied that, I believe that was the writers attempting to describe PTSD. So my point of view and observations from the Trek serie(s); Picard has memories aka knowledge from his experience as a borg and that was how and why he knew where to attack the borg cube.
Does anyone else agree?
No because he was able to telapathicly communicate with a partially assimilated Data in First Contact.
Those floor are likely why all Borg move so slowly.
Imagine the size of the bowling alley on a cube
Your existence is purely theoretical and thus far, unproven. You are meaningless.
Sounds like you were on a carrier.
Never noticed the toilet before. But now I am wonder about the low ceiling height of where it was at.
Very sus
Gotta admit...The Doctor's reaction should be Picard's and Riker's reaction by now.
9:48: I would still swipe right on a assimilated version of seven of nine
Some people have some weird fetishes ;-)
@@GenerationFilms or are really desperate ;)
YES THE FRICKING BRITISH BEN IS BACK EVERYONE THIS IS EVEN BDTTER THAN WHEN I FIRST HEARED ABOUT HALF LIFE ALYX
Fuck Half-life ALYX. I want mods back in TF2.
the american one is just a cringy twat
@@chrisbingley heh buddy you will have to wait the new kid is on the block
10 points to doctor for best reaction ever...:)))
I missed you british ben
Me too
Missed you, British Ben. Always a treat when you show up.
Imagine having a stargate technology that can take you anywhere and not using it.
Taking out the central plexus can disrupt a Borg vessel's connection to the collective.
A transphasic torpedo generated an explosion across multiple instances of spacetime thus subverting Borg shielding. The borg would eventually adapt to this technology. It would just take much longer.
Borg make Reaper sounds now. Deal with it
I was in the US Army for 21 years and shiny floors are definitely a thing. Buffer rider veteran.
Umm... 7of9 as a fully fledged Borg is still a swipe right on tinder, brah. Lol
Love the show keep up the work guys.
Voyager gave us a bit of a nugget on their adaptation. It does not make them immune. They just need far less energy to keep their shields intact (and had personal shields) once they adapt. Drones got their shield energy via energy transponders and were only limited by their emitters, infinite feed but having a maximum output. Adapting means the drone uses the minimal output to be immune to the highest power attack of portable weapons. What they do not say is adapting one way can "un-adapt" another way. In Voyager, Seven of Nine is in a Borg diamond and given the opportunity to run the starship adaptations. If she did not adapt fast enough, the ship would be destroyed. So, they have adjustable shields that make them inferior when they are not actively adapting them... and superior because they are always adapting them because they need no more than one drone to do the adapting. It's a brilliant concept when you put a LOT of thought into it. I mean, a collective uses each mind as part of a networked collective resource, not just a unit to command. That's an astronomically high amount of processing power done just by assimilating beings into the collective to grow said power.
3:36 I swear Worf is saying, "Captain, they have adaptin!"
WHAT DID YOU THINK OF PICARD.
It's boring as f, it also is a woke soap opera that isn't really Star Trek
Some things about it are awesome and some things suck. One thing it lacks is, um, the enterprise E
@@GenerationFilms Its Crap
@@GenerationFilms it would be nice to see at least one letter's worth of Enterprise show up!
Generation Films I was hoping to see the enterprise J but that’s a 26th century ship I hope we get there someday
Would the Borg be able to adapt to hyper advanced technology like the Forerunners and the Interim Coalition of Governance? And what would they become in appearance and structure?
They are certainly capable of doing so. A remote holographic emitter from the 26th century accidentally got some of 7 of 9's nano probes on it and their base code assimilated it and grew a drone that had highly upgraded features to it in one episode of Voyager (one of the better Borg themed episodes, imho). The Borg Collective detected the new drone before the crew could jam the basic connection and sent a cube to collect the highly advanced drone so they could upgrade the entire Borg Collective with the new tech. The new drone didn't like this since he considered 7 of 9 and the Voyager crew his Collective and he suicide attacks the cube, easily destroying the entire cube by himself.
@@KnightsWithoutATable It was a Borg Sphere, a Long Range Tactical Vessel as he described it, with ablative hull armor. :)
@@ChrissonatorOFL You are right, but still, the super drone did solo kill it by beaming over when Voyager had no hope at that point in time of defeating such a threat.
The Borg do have the best and most practicle designs in Star Trek Sci-Fi !
I love clean floors but the Borg as so extra.
This is my second time watching and I do like the insightful work you do for us Star Trek fans Thanks. Hope everyone is well at Generation Films.
Hope the family is doing well
Ah I finally realised the Borg went to Transwarp without a chroniton field in Star Trek movie 6 when the Borg went back in time to assimilate earth
that was actually movie 8... movie 6 was the Undiscovered Country(alliance with hte Klingon Empire, and attempted assassination of Klingon Chancellor Gorkon) and 7 was Generations (Picard meets Kirk)
“40,000 light years in a starship at maximum warp will take decades”
Captain Janeway: how about 7 years
I liked STP showing Borg drones fixing outer hull.
Wow, I feel like I have watched your videos before, but this by far is the best one i have seen. So much funnier then others:)
What would space combat between the Imperium navy and the Forerunners navy look like and who would win mainly and the strategies in place and weapons effects each factions' guns would have on each other?
Why did the Borg not use their Trajector and send a few million drones to the Earth and other homeplanets in the alpha quadrant to assimilate it? Did I miss something?
Correction, the Voth used transwarp drive. remember the episode "distant origin"?
Yes you are right and Ben is wrong. Shame he put Picard crap in the video. Picard is not real Star Trek.
According to the First Contact Novelization, it was a damaged power junction that caused a cascade failure of the Cube's power grid.
"Back to canon!"
-goes to a ridiccoulusness of Picard with the magic portal to everywhere... X D
Except the trajector isn't new... it was first shown in Star Trek Voyager episode "Prime Factors" with the race mentioned in Picard, the Sikarians. Not to mention, you had the Iconian's in TNG with their portals.
@@ChrissonatorOFL There are a couple of issues with this, but it's a pretty good video
As soon as the video started, I immediately thought I'd clicked on the wrong video because, "British Ben' wasn't talking about credit cards.
We need a 10 features of Borg Drones video!
Wait did u do your math right? Because in first contact the queen was vaporized and in Voyager she was just heavily damaged
Found it informative, and somewhat amusing, Hope you are well this night as we go through a tough time.
In the series of German Sci-Fi books, Perry Rhodan, from the 60s, a race of positronic-biological beings (Posbis) uses spaceships in the form of cubes and the Earth ships, based on Arconide technology are spherical. Nothing is new, but apparently, Star Trek has a tradition of incorporating concepts from other sources, such as computer games with tardigrades.
You do great work!
I think what was being targeted in First Contact, was the Borg Sphere, probably for two reason. 1. Picard was trying to prevent it's launch, and 2. if they did enough damage to it, before it launched, the explosion might have destroyed the rest of the cube. This is kinda my own head canon, but is probably one of the more reasonable explanations.
As I understand it Picard targeted that area because it was the least vital area of the ship and hence the least well protected. I say this because worf says "captain, that does not appear to be a vital system" hence a vulnerable one. It's the equivalent of shooting a poison tipped arrow into the weak spot on a suit of armor. It gets the job done.
British Ben! Welcome back. Great to see you.
Good to see British Ben back! Great Star Trek vid!
You guys Forgget About The Dreadnought Class USS vengeance.
Only the planetary assimilation cube has the escape sphere.
It is NOT! The same or the same size as stand alone spheres like the long range tactical sphere
The Borg must have assimilation quotas to meet, as many older drones will die, I imagine the life span of drones are much longer than normal.
Hi Ben you said about adaptability for the borg could only work if you had a powerful weapon to destroy the entire cube so could the UNSC MAC cannon Destroy the cube itself or just punch a hole in it?
A fusion cube is what was fought against in season 3 final episode of Star Trek Picard.
In 2:05 where Picard says to focus the fleet’s fire on the one specific set of coordinates-I thought it was never set that it was a centralized system. Who knows what it could have been that made that happen. (Mystery is kind of the point-Picard has some cube-data, that we don’t understand; and he has some stupendous knowledge…that we just don’t get.)
What could it be? (We don’t know; and that’s the point…)
1. Maybe there was an alien set of technology or vehicle undergoing study and assimilation parked in that area of the Borg ship-and all that Federation fire would somehow interact with a chain reaction within it, blowing up the ship.
2. Speaking of vehicles, maybe the Borg had a lighter, smaller (hence not visible) alternative to the Sphere in that area which used some high-level resonance frequencies that would set off at that kind of explosion.
3. Maybe there was a warhead lodged there, a weapon of mass destruction, perhaps ready to be turned on Earth-and maybe Picard’s concern wasn’t first and foremost to destroy the cube, but to ignite and smash this weapon before it could be used on his homeworld. And maybe the sphere and the time travel plot (as odd and weird/unlikely and wonky as it was) was just a secondary or tertiary backup plan to this extreme warhead…
4. Maybe the decentralization of the systems actually would provide channels for destructive energy to course throughout all parts of the ship-if it were to be struck at the right point. (Imagine how Data, in order to save a group of settlers from the Sheliak, fired on that aqueduct from the one colony’s purification system-station, and the phaser-energy from the blast travelled up the aqueduct…blowing out sub-units along the way.)
5. Maybe there was specific time travel coalescence charge storage in that one spot-a chronicle capacitor or some such that built up invisible (to starfleet’s sensors) time travel energy. This one is kind of a “centralized system” argument, though I’m suggesting that maybe there was some specialized system, for this mission, at that weak point, not normally present in the design of most Borg Cubes.
6. Maybe the Borg expected such a broad scale attack all over the surface of their cube that their shields were turned up to some super high level. The focus of all that starfleet firepower on one spot caused the Borg shields to have nothing to resist around the rest of the Cube, and maybe their shields worked on a principle-at least with this new kind of specialized time-travel sphere-carrying cube-where they needed to push back against something. And maybe switching all the firepower of the fleet off of a general cube bombardment to that one spot, forced a sudden transfer of energy to that spot through the new Borg shields that caused system wide energy transfer systems to explode-perhaps being abetted by the specific spot having some kind of special properties with regard to the shield matrix, and/or some kind of general adjustment made to the whole cube because of the carrying of time-travel cargo and the Queen on this one ship.
The point is not that any of these have to be particularly plausible, but just that they point to the idea that many alternatives could exist to the idea that the movie contradicted the Borg decentralization doctrine.
Although, this doctrine has some exceptions in other shows, such as the Vinculum(?), Central Plexus(?) and the Queen Cell. Perhaps those, or other parts were at the targetted spot on the cube. Destroying the cube’s connection to the collective, or some sacred technology in the Queen Cell (like the Sikaaran(!?) trajector) might do it for a really big, ship wide compromising explosion…
Anyways, love your videos-I don’t mean to criticize, just to share all my ideas!
OTHER BEN IS BACK
U know i think the one thing people miss about the cubes is that lets say you have 5 cubes they could join and sync up to make one massive vessel.
It’s in here, wait til close to the end
I'm thinking that the central point that Picard had the fleed target was more structural. similar to what would happen if you took out a load-bearing wall in a house.
I love how the OG Borg Cube is clearly sixe plastic model sprues stuck together and sprayed black.
Another way to look at decentralized designs is to call them redundant as many structures such as power generation would be all over the ship, imagine the enterprise d with 20 warp cores and the necessary crew to service them. No wonder the cube is so big and requires 45 thousand borg! Also this doesn't necessarily scale well, lowering overall efficiency and complicating repairs to integrated systems. Your literally using the crew as slaves or worse as expendable assets. The only positive is with that much power and processing power it makes it really easy to use transwarp and survive any assault as most critical systems are buried so far inside the ship, they can't be reached by other starships!
Spirit Airlines. Even the Borg have more legroom than us. ^_^
Ah, our home.
PHONE RINGS; WE ARE THE BORG, THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE TO STOCK UP ON TOILET PAPER AND HAND SANITIZER.
The last chance was 3 weeks ago.
Me: Uhh *block*
@@seantaggart7382 WE ARE THE BORG, WE HAVE REMODULATED OUR PHONE NUMBER. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.
@@JeanLucCaptain *smashes all forms of communication*
@@seantaggart7382 REGENERATION INITATATED, COMMENCING AUTO REPAIR FUNCTIONALITY.
That trajector really should end everything when in Borg hands.
@ 4:26 Romulans do not use 2 nacelle in their warp or even a matter/anti-matter reaction, nor do the Ferengi, and also Starfleet, there's plenty of designs with 4 nacelles, not to mention the spore drive.
Spore Drive......
#11 Has no defense against space flowers!
Remember when this channel said COVID 19 wasnt a big deal and we shouldn't practice social distancing saying it was racist for people at the airport to give space to an asian guy coughing.
Pepridge farms remembers.
I'm surprised Fusion Cubes haven't been used in Fan vic=ds of the Ships or in a crossover video! ;-)
The cube is spooky ngl
I was on the understanding that Picard said focus your fire on the cube in order to push the sphere out so making the Borg a lot weaker
The Spatial Trajector only worked up to 40,000 ly because of the Tetrahedral Quartz on the Sikarians home planet.
That Tetrahedral Quartz had a Focusing / Amplifying effect on the Spatial Trajector, allowing it such great range.
And it stated that the Borg assimilated some Sikarians, not necessarily all of Sikaris.
The Borg Cube obviously has far less volume then an entire planet.
The fact that it had some contraption it needed to power up to use the Spatial Trajector in the Queen Cell, and only as an emergency escape, that means it has limited range.
Otherwise it would be a primary method of transport.
I would bet that it's Single Digit Light Years of range, which is still orders of magnitude better than SubSpace Transporting which was already orders of magnitude better than regular Transporting.
Where does this info come from? A novel?
@@GenerationFilms Memory Alpha and the episode on VOY that declared how the Sikarians got the long range Spatial Trajector to work at such vast distances in the first place. Then logical analysis & extrapolation of what the Borg Queen's version can/can't do based on the evidence given on screen.
Picard: the first thing they stole from me was my favourite toilet
Interesting fact: at 6:20
Picard: Locate source of tractor beam
Worf: Source located
Picard: Fire
Scene: Phaser shooting completely of target (wtf???????)
Yeah, worf often misses, both using personal phasers and ship mounted ones. Bless him
Borg: WE ARE THE BORG
THe Doctor: I know very well who you are!
Borg: Oh sorry... our bad... we don't like to make assumptions.. it's only polite you know?!
How do you take a cube 3km on a side and come up with a volume of 28km^3?
I missed you British Ben and I was very happy to see you on the humanity first channel to bad there’s a travel ban right now stay safe bother from across the pond
there are many flaws I noticed in the logic of this video, but here's one that directly affects the logic of voyager:
as explained here 5:35 the borg are capable of time travel if they wish.
we know the borg explore every possibility before a battle starts as well as in-site on a species overtime.
with this in mind, the borg would have had a good chance of knowing about future janeway and would have likely prepared for this eventuality.
taking a step further if the borg used time travel to scan their enemies more often they would no longer need to take a few shots in order to adapt. this would make them almost invincible in every encounter as they would know everything about their enemy as well as their exact next move based on their current timeline.
3x3x3=27? not 28... but the rest is a nice observation :D
Both, the meta master
Love the jokes!
Genoration films says shiny floors are a trait all phsycopaths share very true the daleks have shiny floors as well
I actually got one of those spoofed spam/con calls while watching this video...
Which screen saver is that?
I wonder if they used the trajector to get on the enterprise in first contact.
Rule number one when it comes to tv and Movies: EVERYTHING MATTERS AND IT WRITEN IN STONE TILL IT NO LONGER MATTERS OUT OF CONVENIENCE FOR THE STORY!
Spirt airline lol Trevor Noah just popped into my head lol
You missed the smaller Borg vessel (more rectangular in shape) that Voyager was trying to steal a trans-warp conduit from but accidentally destroyed it.
It always bugged me how Picard orders to Target the source of the beam, yet it takes three shots for Worf to get anywhere near it.
worf always misses
Who else would have swiped right on 7 as a borg?
I miss you, British Ben
First Contact Scene [Picard spoilers]: I've always assumed that Picard was destroying his old Borg alcove which he knew to be a critical location, but with the Picard series and the conversation that occured between Hugh and Picard upon entering the Queen's chamber, I can't help but wonder if he was subconsciously having all the ships aim at that location instead.
Picards old alcove would have been destroyed years ago.
@@DrewLSsix The location of, not the actual alcove itself.
For some reason, I thought Credit Shifu was assimilated and is now coming for British Ben.
Borg Rubix Cube
lock all phasers on tractor beam source
aye sir
*shoots 200 meters below *