When I was a kid I lived near a military base. A lot of the time we would hang out INSIDE the base. We would just climb the fence basically. Soldiers would ask us to go buy them stuff from the store because they weren't allowed to leave the base. I would buy them bread, milk and cigarettes (yes in Russia you can buy cigarettes as 10 year old kid lol)
Yea, I had the same, when I was a kid I was visiting my dad in military base. So one day I just ran around and was following butterfly unti I eventually just jumped into barbed wire. That was kinda screwed up :D
@@AlexiosLair lol ouch! where i lived we did not have that. just regular fence. eventually they started putting some nasty substance on the fences to prevent people from climbing lol
As a person who also went through this I disagree. I was treated fairly well and experience was no different or worse in any way than being in armies of western countries. While we had physically hard training I honestly found a way to enjoy my time there in some ways.
Something you did not specifically say in this video is that a big part of дедовщина (hazing) is not just physical violence, but a whole bucket of sexual violence as well. There have been cases of officers selling their conscripts as male prostitutes to both humiliate them and make money from them at the same time. And since sexual violence on men = пидор, people don't speak about it much.
Can't say that shit like this never happend, but it is as much a "part of дедовщина" as serial killers are a "part of normal society". For that to happen the officer has to be a kind of freak that no one is going to tolerate.
my friends who went to army didn't experience the stuff that nfkrz talks about. They actually had a very cool trainings like diving and going on submarine, etc. Dedovshina, poor quality of food and poor healthcare was a serious problem like a decade ago, but a lot changed since then. So, as many times, i dont really like that roman uses old tropes to shit on russia to entertain his western followers
What concerns me is that he made a video about evading it which might cause him legal problems if someone sees this. Maybe one year in the army sucks balls, but what about two years in Russian prison?
@@anastasiahey2327 Lmao Putinoids at work. He's talking about the majority of the conscripts in a huge territory like Russia. I'm sure in a few sections the training must be decent and doesn't include slave labor.
That explains a lot about the situation in Ukraine. Untrained young folks who have no choice of not being involved are sent there, often they were not even told where they’re going (this happened to my friend’s army “colleagues”, he was lucky enough to retire just a few months before the war, but his friends were told they’re going for a “scouting” and died soon after the beginning). No surprise that Russian army is not doing its best, considering how the government “prepared” it for the war and how useless and sad this war seems to most Russians (including soldiers). Russia is not a country of free choice, but our obligatory military service is just horrible.
@@gregkvye6006 It is democratic. Every country is ruled by the tyranny of democracy, because the majority could unite and stand up whenever they wanted for their rights, but they dont, because they either dont see the problem, or they dont care that much. How do you think are cops in America allowed to murder innocent and harmless people in cold blood and get away with it because they have given an "oath" to god? Cause people dont care, and the other half relates police brutality with race, which is not really the case.
@@HiJack3r not saying there aremt corrupt cops who wrongfully murder innocent ppl. But if u look into most cases with context it's usually a justified shooting. Most cases brought to attention in the media are just 30 second clips taking everything outta context and focused on slandering perfectly good cops for clout. Instead of actually finding and focusing on the bad ones because that's too much work for them.
@@merma9042 It doesnt matter if someone is corrupt or not, the state is far more forgiving to cops and even if one straight up shoots someone without reasonable suspicion they can get away with it if they just say that they panicked or something, and they dont even lose their badge. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Philando_Castile Im not saying cops should always get punished for the mistakes they make, but i am saying nobody should get punished. People should not go to prison for 10+ years for drug possession, while cops straight up shoot people 7 times with a handgun and get away with it. Instead, measurements should be taken so that such incidents dont happen again. But in the case of Castile, the state just paid the family about a million dollars, and they called it a day, instead of taking away Yanez's badge and sending him to therapy or something so that he can control himself and not panick when there is simply a gun in a car.
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I think he just wasn't clear enough in his wording. Not "evade", which is a very direct translation from russian "уклониться", but "avoid" as in not have to get conscripted.
This is hilarious. Lithuania is like the size of Moscow, and yet: - a conscript gets 200 EUR ( 13876,58 RUBLES) a month - an additional one-time payout of 2000 EUR once he finishes service (138765,80 RUBLES) - the food is ridiculously good. Honestly, better than the awesome stuff my mom did. Yet, despite being very tasty, everything is balanced so you still lose fat and gain muscle mass. - health is taken very seriously. If you as much as get a runny nose, they don't let you do the outside drills. - I had a lot of fun there and actually learned a lot of things I find use for in real life. EDIT: Comment is outdated. The monthly pay and the payout at the end is now considerably larger. Lowest rank soldier who stays after compulsory service gets 1.5k EUR after tax per month Source: was in the Lithuanian Military. Would do it all over again. It's fun AF and you get paid.
But you can still be taken against your will to the army with the new laws coming in, like one of my friends is scared that he will get drafted after new years and that means that he will loose his current job. He recently got a job delivering stuff and the longer he works there the better the pay, the army might just fuck that oportunity up completely for him.
@@MRgemmu Dude what. Conscripts get 200 a month. Sergeants get above 1000 eur a month xD. Basically once you serve the conscription and decide to stay as a professional soldier and pass the selection, your monthly salary once youre a private is 1000 eur a month.
@@Echonautas Not true. If they draft you, the workplace is legally bound to hold your work position for you until you return and if they dont, they can get fined. Plus, there are ways to appeal that your current life situation does not allow you to serve so they let you pass. Besides, they just shortened the conscription age.
That is what happened in world war one, they dropped their arms and walked back to Moscow to join protests their wives and mothers had set up. Russians could use a little bit of that thinking since it gave birth to the Soviet Union, which they still have a hard on for. Then again, the system has been in place for a long time and its citizenry thought it was a sign of national strength. I suppose if they keep sending troops to the front there will be less to send to the front later on...
I have a Russian friend in the tank forces when he did his military service. He told me stories that I thought were jokes but apparently not. For example; in his battalion, several recruits passed out and nearly died because the T-80 and BMPs they were in had bad fume extractors, so when they fired the gun, the smoke came back into the cabin and suffocated people. The gas masks don't work because the airtight seals had degraded. Food and the MREs were shit as well and he was jealous that we still have access to Tim Hortons and glorious McDonalds even on deployment in Afghanistan. And when I told him how much an E-5 made, which is Sergeant in the Marine Corps, he nearly fell off his chair.
This whole military hierarchy is probably even older than 50 years. When my dad was in the East German army (also conscripted) they had a similar system called "EK-Bewegung". My dad told me storied of having to scrub toilets in a hazmat suit, being forced to smuggle in alcohol to the base and how one guy died because they threw him, inside a cupboard, out of a window because he wouldn't sing when the older soldiers wanted to play "jukebox". Really fucked up shit went down there.
@SkvidiChannel maybe. Because he definitely makes minimal off of all the demonetization. But, even with patreon, he's paying out a lot of expenses for everything also.
I live in Russia and I am 16, today I passed the military registration and enlistment office. This is necessary in order for you to be registered and have a medical examination, everyone undergoes it before joining the army, then at the age of 18 you are rechecked again and if you are fit, then you go to the army. It was awful from submitting documents to leaving. They literally called me obscene words for not completely cutting out the photo, then the circle of hell began, we all crowded in a cramped room, going to different offices to the doctors for examination, they always accompanied us with an angry and displeased look. When I had to go through the last room (psychiatrist), I was asked "how do you feel about serving in the army?" I said "negative" after which she wrote something there and sent me on. Most people in Russia hate the obligatory army, because you need to serve a year and only men. If you enter a university, it does not mean that you will not go to the army, you also need a military department at your university, and they are not available in all universities. I am silent about the service in the army itself, because there you can't go with phones (if they see it, they will nail it on a nail at the main entrance so that everyone knows), paint the grass with green paint, build a country house for a major and about bullying in the army where people with senior ranks they are trying to humiliate you or, even worse, rape you. In general, I was not lucky to live in this country :(
I am 18 and I live in Syria. Might get drafted soon, and if I get drafted, I'll be gone for 5-8 years. See all the humiliation in the Russian army? Its worse here, plus we are at war and death is very possible. I just don't care anymore. They want a monster? They'll get one.
same, sadly they harassed me for my hair color (i dyed it ginger) and made fun of my sicknesses also the psychiatrist was a weirdo and kept asking me about my divorced parents terrible experience, i hope i can just migrate out of this shithole and live happily
When I was doing my obligatory service in the Finnish army we had quite a few guys with dual Russian-Finnish citizenships and many of them said the main reason they are doing it is that they could keep visiting Russia without having to worry about getting conscripted there because serving in the Finnish military gets them exempted from the Russian one.
Coconut212 I think ruskies don't sitting on welfare unlike other immigrants from the Middle East or Africa. It's outrageous that those people are more welcomed in Eastern and Nothern EU counties than ruskies who don't want any government help just to be allowed to live in civilized country.
BRRP Whut? Is it your personal bias or maybe you have some statistics? In the Czech Republic Russian emigrants definitely do not sit on welfare, many of them are actually IT and business people creating jobs or having a high payed jobs paying taxes etc.
Finland also has a mandatory military service for all males over 18 years old which usually lasts from 6-12 months. You can also just choose to go to civil sevice for a year. Or jail, well usually you are "free" but you have to walk around with a tracer wrapped around your ankle. They do a physical examination before you enter and just let people like asthmatics and diabetics free of the whole thing. Or just psychos. Even doctor's not saying you are wetting your bed at night can get you off the hook. Every weekend you get to go home unless there is some special occastion like training excercise. On some evenings you could also ho out to nearby town for some hours. And you spend the whole time doing actually army related stuff. Well, idk if collecting money for veterans counts as military stuff. You also get paid a little salary and the army pays your rent if you have own appartment. The food is like public school level food. Maybe a bit more options. Though in training camps it was sometimes just bad and I lost 15 kilos of my weight in just half a year. And I wasn't even overweight. Who mixes canned tuna and pasta with little to no spice!? Just didn't bring any own food really to training camps. You actually get to shoot there. We went to shooting range like once a month and shot a lot of blanks in excercises. Physical and mental abuse is taken very seriously by higher ups and the cases are sometimes handed over to police so the service was very civil. Just like hanging out with random dudes in forest with a boss yelling at you occationally.
I never was a conscript since I was discharged from the French Army, which was then compulsory, after 10 days at the combat engineer reserve officer school, because I didn't want to be there and my trench back in 1984 was definitely not on French soil. 1983-4 were those years when WWIII was getting real. When I asked one of the school's instructors, on the first night following induction before military discipline and the whole distance crap kicked in, what he intended to do when Andropov's tanks started rolling across the Fulda Gap, he told me he was going to don civvies and start moving West. This made me decide to go plan B with the psychiatric shtik, for which I had ample time to prepare since sleep deprivation was really easy to do in the barracks. So, a few years later, I became a reservist straight away in the IDF, with four months of intense training for starts. I never had much to complain about in that very civilian National Defense, combat-rated outfit I was affected to to be frank, and good times could be had aside of what needed to be done. My next generation was conscripted, and apart from a few problems my daughters had with the ill-fitting and unsightly uniforms issued to the female conscripts of a country that prides itself of its fashion industry, everybody had really positive, formative few years in the Army regardless of which branch they served in. The only requirement to get there was, seemingly, to know what you want and can do, and get detailed to actually learn a military trade that can be useful (or not) later in civilian life, or at a minimum afford you a network of buddies for life.
Finnish army is like a heaven compared to that. Probably because everyone has to go there regardless of socio-economical situation and corruption is practically non-existent.
Everyone has to go? You only need a little bit of cleverness and you can very and I say VERY easily evade finnish military draft like I did. I don't understand how stupid guys are in Finland that goes there. For example I just threatened to doctor that "I would kill myself if they take me into army" and just kept repeating that threat until doctor gave me exemption (C-classification). So your statement that everyone has to go is bullshit. :D
@@poker1540 I'd honestly be a bit ashamed to fake an illness to avoid the military, but I do know of people who have done it (including my friend) and I do understand why they do it. I think in Finland we generally have a more positive attitude toward the military and thus less people avoiding it.
@@GameCaliber1 I don’t understand why they have such a positive attitude towards that unequal slavery. For example I have very negative attitude towards that insane concentration camp. Thankfully in Finland you just need to say that ”I’m good killmyself if I end up ik army” and you can evade. Why would you feel ashamed to fake an illness? It’s just cleverness when you can fake sometjing for your own benefit.
@@poker1540 I guess it comes down to upbringing and personal attitude toward the defense forces. Don't get me wrong, were it not mandatory, I wouldn't have gone either. I just think that for us having this system is necessary.
I cannot believe they only get 700 roubles a month! Then again, I don’t know generally how much people earn in Russia and how much things cost. It’s a pittance to us Brits at £8.76 and wouldn’t even be enough to buy one packet of cigarettes.
In the 1940's, 50's and 60's, the United States required two years of compulsory military service of males 18 to 25 years old. Males were conscripted typically at age 21 if they had not already served. Salaries were very low. Conscripts were likely to serve in real wars if any were going on. President Richard Nixon and the US Congress ended conscription in the early 1970s because it was very unpopular.
Oh that terrible Nixon, saving China, ending compulsory service what else did he do? Anyone know? Or are you simply educated by the entertainment industry?
It was compulsory to register for the draft upon ones 18th birthday in the US. Being drafted however was like losing the lottery... as many Vietnam era draftees fled to Canada and others found student or medical deferments to evade military service. A particular case in point was "Mister Bone Spurs" himself.
@@willfont1143 I concur. In case anyone does't know, Mr. Bone Spurs is former U.S. President Trump, who avoided military service by having a podiatrist send a letter to his draft board stating bone spurs made him unfit.
@@willfont1143you still do have to register for the draft when you turn 18 here. There just hasn’t been an active one since Vietnam, but in the event that one were to happen, they would have a list of people eligible for service this way.
So basically you must be a slave for 1 year with bonuses like: >Pneumonia >PTSD Extra Bonuses: Constant humiliation, Physical abuse (With probability of lifetime injuries!) and 10$ per month!
@KinG of SomethiNG it already has. And most importantly, China may have more people than India, like a Germany volume of more people but India haves more youth.
@KinG of SomethiNG M240 go dadadada No seriously though, without professional soldiers any future wars will turn into a bloodbath. Modern weapons are simply too efficient to throw bodies at until they run out of ammo.
The worst part is that was true, in ww2 the Soviets would send lower tier infantry in first waves just to clear minefields. The Germans would still shoot at them as they valued the mines more than the 'threat' these troops represented
That depends in what company you were in and what year you served. I was in coastal jaeger company and we barely had any loma/weekends off and the military staff were hard and unforgiving, in a fair good way though. I've heard recruits have gotten it a lot easier now, like more loma and friendlier, softer approach from the staff. Which is lame af imo. You're supposed to harden up while doing your service. Even though it was tough and the staff yelled and terrorized your mind, it was a fun time which left good memories of the hardships you went though with your serving mates, cause you all went theough it together.
@@TheBLGL it's actually worse than that. They've taken more casualties in less than two months than the Yanks did in the first five years in Vietnam. And with a smaller force. Mind you, the Yanks had better training and equipment, and the VC weren't as well-equipped as the Ukrainians are. It's a pity that the Russians haven't learned not to use conscripts.
@@unclescipio3136 Well, Putin did believed to tuned reports and analysis of FSB. Putin did not told to FSB that he will for reel attack Ukraine, they did not told him the truth. So he expected to have Crimea 2.0. Basically, ex spy got trolled by own information service.
@@unclescipio3136 Where are you getting your info you poor brainwashed person? Yes Russians did bad job initially at Kiev and Chernigov they suffered a lot of losses because of poor logistics and preparation also lack of men. But now they are absolutely killing it at Mariupol and Donbass. It seems that Russia will win this war. So stop watching propaganda and actually learn to follow multiple sources and be objective.
My dad said he had to peel whole bath full of potatoes with a spoon. There was a machine for it but it was broken, so he fixed it. Some time later the officer came and just smashed the machine and said "I told you, peel them with a spoon! "
That is an awesome idea. I can't wait to see what the police and army will say when he will say that he is married to a man. HA he will get a god beating and thrown I to the worse part of the army
When it comes to forced conscription turkey and Russia are at the bottom of the barrel. Really abysmal food, unstable environment and uncertain future. Singapore, Israel and South Korea are at the top of the hiearchy of nation's for conscription. Israel in my opinion the toughest of the 3 because immediate exposure to war culture from day 1 and despite the high quality basics it's mentally intense and exhausting to be at the brink of war 24/7 with border patrols and immigrants joining the military for quicker road to citizenship.
You dodged a real bullet by skipping town, dude. This explains so much about what we've been seeing. Thank the gods for the corrupt and untrained at this point. I just feel so bad about the poor slubs being used as cannon fodder.
The Brazillian Army has a similar mandatory service time. Every male man has to present himself to the armed forces of Brazil when he is 18 year old. I was a volunteer because I believe in our army and liked my year of service. But this whole slave soldier thing is really bad, it destroys the soldiers morale because most of us join thinking we are going to contribute to our country with military service, learning how to fight to defend our country, but instead, we train for half a year, then its only cleaning, cutting grass and guard duty, while all the other people who didnt serve are studying. But one thing military service does right is to prepare you for hardships. After serving you become much tougher and competent, I saw stupid teenagers turn into grown men because of hard training. I dont know anything about Russian military though.
I served three years in the United states army and majority of the time I just cleaned and did guard duty at the desk. It was boring and I didn't even get to deploy while my unit went about to Europe and I had to stay so it wasn't enjoyable for me because I wanted to serve my country and not be a janitor or some shit. I was thinking of joining the legion and doing infantry again since I still crave the military life.
@FattyFludders (12B) Combat engineer. I was stationed in Fort Riley, Kansas and my unit was the 82nd Engineer battalion, 2nd Brigade, 1st Division. Didn't do much explosives training after my first year at my unit and just spent most of my time fixing Bradley's and doing guard.
@FattyFludders don't thank me Bubba I really didn't do anything. I just wanted to do my part and have a bit of adventure. But out of kindness from my heart I thank you for being appreciative. Did you serve as well or are you interested? It's good to talk to people from back home do to the fact that I'm not in the country at the moment and I miss the smell of freedom hehe.
@@joshuaarroyo7235 On the positive side, you are still alive and you don't need to worry about having PTSD, such as nor having nightmares of having to kill other human beings or seeing your friends blown up! Too many waking wounded, whose lives and relationships are destroyed due to PTSD!
@@lenitaa7938 PTSD is bad and I feel ache in my heart for those who experienced it. But one thing I can say from those who been to war and have suffered from PTSD is that they don't want to be treated any differently from everyone else. Just yesterday I was at the VA hospital doing a check up and had a conversation with a 20 year vet who told me that one of the things he hated about being in the civilian life was how everyone treated him like he was a sensitive person because of his deployment record. He been to several conflicts around the world and is the happiest guy you can meet. Guy was a hippie by heart. I'm grateful for my service and I would do it again in a heartbeat if I had to.
Deathicael nuh , almost nobody in russian military cares about what you say on youtube or our social networks, until you say something like "Kill all russians" or terroristic stuff.Even if you say someth like that it will take ~half of the year-year for russian officials to react.In early days (2000-2012 or somth) nobody gave a shit about even that kind of stuff, couse russian secret service and police gave a shit only about money they can make and about whats going on on tv or another mass media.Russian info weaponary wasnt and isnt advanced enough, its not like euro one or american one.
Well russian army officials doesnt speak english and doesnt understand it (and doesnt know, what is "internet"). Really. Almost none of them. Because they are dumb uneducated boomer-vatniks. And thats really the only reason. There is even a stereotype about dumbness of soldiers, officers and generals, and its true. Smart people dont go in russian army. So he could said anything he wanted.
Define "legal representation" or is OP getting to the court or something? If you're asking if it is a bad idea to post such videos while he's trying to get into EU, well, it doesn't really matter, not to EU definitely. Neither would care the government of Russia since he's not trying to get employed in the government or anything like that, though even then I doubt they would really care about something like this, after all OP is not trying to promote illegal activity in his video (although his views are biased and are mostly his opinion). However, there is an organization in Russia that is trying to control the information flow, that includes the internet obviously. So, if someone notices this video (we're speaking of humans, not machines, humans that understand the language even) at worst OP will get strikes from this org for his video and it might get removed afterwards due to slander, misrepresentation, hate speech or what ever reason they may choose to block this video. That's about it. It really depends from how popular the video gets though, if it will appear in a feed in Russia, then the org certainly going to notice it. Still, usually they're going after videos with "problematic" footage or extremely offensive footage and there is none of that in the video, so it's really hard to tell if they going to bother. After all, there are even actual journalists in Russia that are getting away with much worse articles.
"According to Nikita Khrushchev, 1.5 million men were sent to Finland and one million of them were killed, while 1,000 aircraft, 2,300 tanks and armored cars and an enormous amount of other war materials were lost. Finland's losses were limited to 25,904 dead or missing and 43,557 wounded."
Back in the 90s before Putin came to power, when the Russian army was pretty much crap and defunded after losing wars in Afghanistan and Chechnya. It's a whole different story nowadays.
@@XVRMEDIA exactly. The Russian army now has conscripts but they aren’t even used for warfare. That’s when the professional contract soldiers come into play. That’s who the little green men are. Or the guys in Syria. All contract soldiers who are far better trained, equipped and motivated.
Beating up, humiliating some young dudes for the "hierarchy" Have those dudes never seen Full Metal Jacket? Someone is gonna go full Private Pyle Mode. (Just learned, he's called Private Pyle in english, not Paula)
Im glad we have a Professional volunteer Military here in the U.S. I mean I know they can open the draft if shit gets bad, but as a standing Military force we have a quite large 100% volunteer Military
@@baneofbanes The My Lai Massacre didn’t just happen because conscription, the people responsible kinda went nuts due to the war and they were basically bastards
and most of the information he gave is trash. because the conscription numbers dont go to the total active service members of the army and not every unit is treated the same just like in the us being in the nasional guard is not the same as being a cook in the navy.
@Владимир Пукин ah yes bored people dont do stupid shit in any other army... >ua-cam.com/video/j2N5i7tGpqw/v-deo.html >ua-cam.com/video/lpqmvCe6tsE/v-deo.html there is more on live leak privet 2ch anka
Well, this explains a lot in 2022... Sad that young people die for the ambitions of some megalomaniac leader when they could have done something useful for them, their families, society in general.
99,99% of people in military are actually old fucks, who barely know what youtube is about and none of them speak english so it is pretty safe to do it, and at the end of the day he use lawyers to find legal way to avoid service so this video do nothing anyways
@@mrshamf3484 Its kinda in need to ,i mean if Stalin didn't do what he did and industrialize Russia at the cost of his own people well Russian state wouldnt be standing today as a Country
It use to be like this in my former communist country before joining NATO. Because NATO requested reforms of the army and abolishing conscription there where a lot of videos of the abuse conscripts where subjected to at the time the decision to abolish conscription was made.
It happens everywhere. Even here in the UK occasionally, even though our army is top notch. Not everybody is cut out for for it, but for some it's their only option left. When they realize they can't handle it, they hang themselves in their room.
Im a russian citizen, but lived nearly my whole life in germany and I cant be conscripted cause i have a permanent living permission there. So.. suck it millitary hehe :P
I got conscripted and I was a dual citizen on US and Russia living in the US. Took like 5 years to get that resolved. Some paperwork fuck up somewhere most likely. Regardless I'm probably not gonna risk going back home to Moscow till I'm out of the age bracket. Which sucks because I really do miss home sweet home.
Not always. Israel has conscription but the soldiers are highly trained and on par with the US army (they often train together and learn from each other). Service is three years, a year of which is training.
@@command_unit7792 True, if you sign a contract in Russia you get good training and pay. OP was comparing conscripts to contractors, saying contractors perform better. I pointed out an exception - Israeli combat conscripts, who are comparable to contractors is the best armies in the world. Also, non-combat conscripts is Israel have way more shooting days than Russian ones and most of them get meaningful jobs and skills.
Why? Is it becouse of the size ( if its a smaller army) like for example there is draft in Denmark and they have 8 month s draft and they perform just as good as everybody else
@@radking9854 If they serve 8 months it means they train for maximum of 2 months. They can't be as good as someone who trained for a year or more, like contractors do.
Even in South Korea its a problem. when I was stationed their the Korean soldiers be bunked with got treated just like this. They technically received a decent salary but the Korean government takes most of it away and the soldier receives like 76 dollars.
@@troy2286 a conscripted military will never surpass a well establish volunteer military. The department of defense realized this after Vietnam because those who volunteered were more willing and loyal to the cause than those who were forced into it. In WW2 we had a draft but rarely used it because we had lots of volunteers for the war and that's what helped us win.
@@Its_shiki_time4876 as a russian, I don't think it's sad. Why would I be sad that our government can't just throw people in encirlements under enemy fire?
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LOL NFKRZ thinks he's going to move back to Russia after he lives in Europe for a few years... so cute... you might visit but I doubt you'll go back (rather: I doubt that you'll want to go back)
I did my mandatory national service in Finnish Jaeger Corps 9 months, after that I enlisted and did two rotations in Kosovo and one in Chad. I got even promoted from private to corporal. I completely understand why some people want to avoid conscription, and I hope you will get thru clean. None should be forced to serve.
A female trooper? AWESOMMMEEEEE!! (Sorry if i creep ya out. That wasn't the intention. It's genuinely rare to hear about or see a female soldier who's seen combat or served in real life. For several reasons, yes. But Uuuuggghhhhh!) Also, Jaeger Corps sounds badass. Reminds me of the Fallschimjaeger and the Jagpanther. Aaaannnnd the Jaegers.
Interestingly when I was in the US army there were two or three Russians in my last unit, one may have been Ukrainian, one of whom served two years on the Russian army. One said he was a truck driver and the only training he received was marching, wearing the uniform, fired his AK once, and convoy driving. He said the pay, food and accommodations sucked. The other two spent their time guarding buildings and bases and they received more weapons training but everything else sucked. They said we were treated and trained so much better.
Polish military had the same issues with young soldiers being physically and mentally abused, and I hate when people say "oh, but it's military, at least they'll come back tough and normal, not like these days." Tell me where depression, PTSD, bruises and overall a scar for life is normal. You already kill eachother on a battlefield (and war is enough to absolutely destroy a human), so I think you can act civilised among other people who are in the same position as you at least.
@@fatmandirtball4746 Oh that's just the tip of the iceberg. Just read the Wikipedia page for "Dedovschina" and you'll be absolutely horrified. Raping, Torture, Anal insertion of glass bottles and metal staves etc. And as Roman mentioned, the higher ups don't care, since they are responsible for anything going wrong in the regiments. And this happened in Chelyabinsk "In 2012, a draftee from Chelyabinsk region, Ruslan Aiderkhanov, was raped and tortured to death by his seniors. The one witness who was willing to testify against the alleged perpetrators, Danil Chalkin, was later found shot dead in his military base. A contract soldier, Alikbek Musabekov, was later arrested in this incident." As a Russian with dual citizenship I am glad I won't have to live through this bullshit.
We had a military barracks just 100m near park where we played as kids so soldiers would always call as 2 buythem something in shop across ..my brothers served the army but i did not want so i was avoiding it until my 30s until they give up
Plenty of countries still around with mandatory military service. Some bad and some good. Im finnish and going to army service in 3 months and so far from what I have heard its okay (from friends and relatives). Obviously I cant really judge other countries situations as I dont know how military service works in other places.
Also, here in Kazakhstan I heard rumours that some recruits came in their piss bottles for medical tests before army to make their protein level much higher than normal so that they don't get recruited. I wanted to try this but thought I might get into trouble for this)))
The ‘Nam problem was so much bigger then just conscription, as the CIA stated in it’s report about spying on Hippie and anti-war movements. “The country is getting divorced from reality” whenever that happened due to Vietnam or not is another story.
Males still need to register for it but I think it's only actually enacted when there's a war and the president specifically decides to enact it. Due to the backlash in Vietnam obviously nobody since has wanted to start a draft for our foreign wars, but I remember that actually being a huge fear when the Iraq and Afganistan conflicts started.
I can relate to a lot of this. Here in Chile it's almost all the exact same, at least as far as I know, same age range, same uselessness and forced attendance, obviously corrupt, they steal money by the millions and retire at 40 basically earning the same amount. You get sent to buttfuck nowhere, either the desert up north or the rainy south near the south pole, and live in shit conditions for like 6 months I think, if not a year. The fucking military is so inept that thay once sent a squad to run up the mountains as training during a snow storm and they all fucking died. And here I am, weakest person I know, I nearly passed out once during PE class, and apparently I have no medical condition that can keep me out of there, so I was basically forced to study something right as I finished high school to stay away from the military, and then I had to drop out because it was not for me. I was lucky that my dad could pay and there was no debt, but I still could get called again, same for my brothers. The military is good for nothing, the only people they ever fought was ourselves during the dictatorship and our neighboring countries for no reason, they do not defend, they attack unprovoked. They're one of the reasons I hate this country and I'd wish to move out forever from here. I once thought Russia would be a good place to go, but I see that we share some similarities that I don't appreciate, still would like to visit as a tourist once, and I'd say the same for Chile, good country to visit, but never come live here, unless you're Haitian or Venezuelan it seems, it's possible to have it worse in life.
The Chilean Army and Air Force does good work in Antarctica - they have participated in many rescues there. And they run a post office down there too, which was much appreciated during my visit! Love Chile. :)
@@DieForDethklok11 all the soldiers in the barracks share a poop sock because theres no toilet paper in russia, once all the clean spots are used up, the lowest guy in the hierarchy has to throw out the poopsock
I live in the UK; from what I have heard from friends is that the training for the British army is pretty fun, it has built their confidence and that the food you're given is really tasty. Curry is a pretty popular food in the British Army
as an armenian who's about to join the army russian and armenian army's are literally the same, I want to study abroad just like Roman, but I have no choice
Roman, my son went into the Army just after high school in 2013. I wished he would have gone to college \ ROTC, army. He ended up in Afghanistan in 2015. I was devastated. He survived and was finished with his commitment in 2016. He bought a house with his Army time and now is doing well. It was a horrible time for me as a parent.😐
Egypt's army is largely built on conscripts that server up to three years and are professionally trained. it also holds a force the size of the third of its army which are very highly trained all around units made up of non conscript soldiers.
Commander: Comrade why are you not running
Soldier: Sir I have no legs
Yuo see komrade kommissar, when u make normal with not of move, amerikanski will think u are kill
Hahaha
10/10
Bullshit, you have arms, put them to work.
Pewdiepie be like
When I was a kid I lived near a military base. A lot of the time we would hang out INSIDE the base. We would just climb the fence basically. Soldiers would ask us to go buy them stuff from the store because they weren't allowed to leave the base. I would buy them bread, milk and cigarettes (yes in Russia you can buy cigarettes as 10 year old kid lol)
Yea, I had the same, when I was a kid I was visiting my dad in military base. So one day I just ran around and was following butterfly unti I eventually just jumped into barbed wire. That was kinda screwed up :D
@@AlexiosLair lol ouch! where i lived we did not have that. just regular fence. eventually they started putting some nasty substance on the fences to prevent people from climbing lol
@@Mazxlol another regular day in Russia lol
I lived in Alakurtti, Murmansk Oblast.
Nice
lmao
As a person who went through all this, I can confirm all that was said in this video.
Feel bad for you mate
sorry mate
Did you get beat up? What happened?
The boomers are gonna die soon anyways.
As a person who also went through this I disagree. I was treated fairly well and experience was no different or worse in any way than being in armies of western countries. While we had physically hard training I honestly found a way to enjoy my time there in some ways.
Something you did not specifically say in this video is that a big part of дедовщина (hazing) is not just physical violence, but a whole bucket of sexual violence as well. There have been cases of officers selling their conscripts as male prostitutes to both humiliate them and make money from them at the same time. And since sexual violence on men = пидор, people don't speak about it much.
Can't say that shit like this never happend, but it is as much a "part of дедовщина" as serial killers are a "part of normal society".
For that to happen the officer has to be a kind of freak that no one is going to tolerate.
Мем про гомоармию :D
What the fuck
Don't lose your tuss
When I said I wanted to meet NFKRZ, I didn’t mean on the battlefield during WW3
Don't worry. In case of war Roman will flip sides and become US soldier against dirty Russia. So you'll be on the same side.
@Mor Dor No no man it's not about "being a man", i'm going to serve my country but if i would live in russia... bruh 100% i would avoid it
Top comment lmao
Вася Штырьков He’d be like Yuri or Nikolai from Modern Warfare
Roman said in one of his videos he will never betray his country and he is still a little patriotic so no, roman is not an idiot
Russian soldiers look like they just out here living like its Just Cause 3.
atleast they own a porsche and drive it over 300kmph in the wangan
Blackbird Russia is just a Garrys Mod server
then welcome to the province of chelyabinsk where you are forced to do army
@@agent1787 nani? Blackbird
@@cherryred6804 yes !!
How to get PTSD without going to war ------------> Being a conscript in the Russian Army.
including great weight loss
my friends who went to army didn't experience the stuff that nfkrz talks about. They actually had a very cool trainings like diving and going on submarine, etc. Dedovshina, poor quality of food and poor healthcare was a serious problem like a decade ago, but a lot changed since then. So, as many times, i dont really like that roman uses old tropes to shit on russia to entertain his western followers
Pretty much
What concerns me is that he made a video about evading it which might cause him legal problems if someone sees this. Maybe one year in the army sucks balls, but what about two years in Russian prison?
@@anastasiahey2327 Lmao Putinoids at work. He's talking about the majority of the conscripts in a huge territory like Russia. I'm sure in a few sections the training must be decent and doesn't include slave labor.
That explains a lot about the situation in Ukraine. Untrained young folks who have no choice of not being involved are sent there, often they were not even told where they’re going (this happened to my friend’s army “colleagues”, he was lucky enough to retire just a few months before the war, but his friends were told they’re going for a “scouting” and died soon after the beginning). No surprise that Russian army is not doing its best, considering how the government “prepared” it for the war and how useless and sad this war seems to most Russians (including soldiers). Russia is not a country of free choice, but our obligatory military service is just horrible.
i remember watching this video years ago and it rings true today with the state of the russian army
Yeah
I stopped reading when I realized your dumbass didn’t know what a conscript was.
Oh, and the US had a draft until after Vietnam, genius
Remember the My Lai massacre, you effing moron
And that's the last time Roman was seen..
It seems that Russia is democratic. This video would be taken down, he would get wist in USA .
Greg Kvye what?
@@gregkvye6006 It is democratic. Every country is ruled by the tyranny of democracy, because the majority could unite and stand up whenever they wanted for their rights, but they dont, because they either dont see the problem, or they dont care that much. How do you think are cops in America allowed to murder innocent and harmless people in cold blood and get away with it because they have given an "oath" to god? Cause people dont care, and the other half relates police brutality with race, which is not really the case.
@@HiJack3r not saying there aremt corrupt cops who wrongfully murder innocent ppl. But if u look into most cases with context it's usually a justified shooting. Most cases brought to attention in the media are just 30 second clips taking everything outta context and focused on slandering perfectly good cops for clout. Instead of actually finding and focusing on the bad ones because that's too much work for them.
@@merma9042 It doesnt matter if someone is corrupt or not, the state is far more forgiving to cops and even if one straight up shoots someone without reasonable suspicion they can get away with it if they just say that they panicked or something, and they dont even lose their badge.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Philando_Castile
Im not saying cops should always get punished for the mistakes they make, but i am saying nobody should get punished. People should not go to prison for 10+ years for drug possession, while cops straight up shoot people 7 times with a handgun and get away with it. Instead, measurements should be taken so that such incidents dont happen again. But in the case of Castile, the state just paid the family about a million dollars, and they called it a day, instead of taking away Yanez's badge and sending him to therapy or something so that he can control himself and not panick when there is simply a gun in a car.
Any Video Roman makes: Demonitized
Roman makes a Video on the Army: Not Demonitized lol
UA-cam is owned by Putin
@@Nugcon brook gets cursed in this weird new video... Im scared. Click me its titled "hate, the musical, You like this movie no one in youtube create like him. Go to him
> Plans to evade the army by faking non-eligibility
> Publicly states it on youtube
as long as he pays the money they wont care
Those boomers don't understand, nor speak english anyways.
Seems like you didn’t understand the video buddy.
Rewind and really try to focus on the subject.
If you still don’t get it; then that’s ok sport!
Exploiting loopholes is not illegal
I think he just wasn't clear enough in his wording. Not "evade", which is a very direct translation from russian "уклониться", but "avoid" as in not have to get conscripted.
Two years later, this video sure sounds credible and accurate.
One of the things I like about the famous Russians!
There are no conscripts in ukraine
@@kasimgulek9567 none of the soldiers in ukraine are conscripts plesse do your research
@@sqqqqqqqqqq cope
Now former Z cheerers are NFKRZ
he just told the Russian gov his plans, he finna die
👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Nah, at worst the only will draft him to serve against his will.
The boomers don't even understand english, he'll be safe fam
Wtf is finna
The Russian government isn’t the CCP, so he’s probably gonna be fine idk
$10.73 a month?! Holy shit that blows. That's like 2 hours of work at McDonald's.
F
I work in a notoriously under-paided profession and even I'm paid better.
10K USD idk where you work but that’s a lot more then 2h of work
computers with nikita nikita 1000 USD
Lol
This is hilarious.
Lithuania is like the size of Moscow, and yet:
- a conscript gets 200 EUR ( 13876,58 RUBLES) a month
- an additional one-time payout of 2000 EUR once he finishes service (138765,80 RUBLES)
- the food is ridiculously good. Honestly, better than the awesome stuff my mom did. Yet, despite being very tasty, everything is balanced so you still lose fat and gain muscle mass.
- health is taken very seriously. If you as much as get a runny nose, they don't let you do the outside drills.
- I had a lot of fun there and actually learned a lot of things I find use for in real life.
EDIT: Comment is outdated. The monthly pay and the payout at the end is now considerably larger. Lowest rank soldier who stays after compulsory service gets 1.5k EUR after tax per month
Source: was in the Lithuanian Military. Would do it all over again. It's fun AF and you get paid.
But you can still be taken against your will to the army with the new laws coming in, like one of my friends is scared that he will get drafted after new years and that means that he will loose his current job. He recently got a job delivering stuff and the longer he works there the better the pay, the army might just fuck that oportunity up completely for him.
Damn, i tought that in lithuania they get about 100eur like us in estonia. sergeants get about 175
@@MRgemmu Dude what. Conscripts get 200 a month. Sergeants get above 1000 eur a month xD. Basically once you serve the conscription and decide to stay as a professional soldier and pass the selection, your monthly salary once youre a private is 1000 eur a month.
@@Echonautas Not true. If they draft you, the workplace is legally bound to hold your work position for you until you return and if they dont, they can get fined. Plus, there are ways to appeal that your current life situation does not allow you to serve so they let you pass. Besides, they just shortened the conscription age.
I have friends in the Romanian army as regular soldiers and they get 700 Euros to 800 Euros a month + bonuses.
Welp... Glad you dodged that bullet, Roman. It's tragic how many young Russian men have been thrown into the meat grinder against their own will.
My reaction to this vid was… bruh.
*Cues “Draft dodgers rag” reading all these comments from imbeciles*
You took the words right out of my mouth.
That is what happened in world war one, they dropped their arms and walked back to Moscow to join protests their wives and mothers had set up. Russians could use a little bit of that thinking since it gave birth to the Soviet Union, which they still have a hard on for. Then again, the system has been in place for a long time and its citizenry thought it was a sign of national strength. I suppose if they keep sending troops to the front there will be less to send to the front later on...
Thrown as Cannon Fodder.
I have a Russian friend in the tank forces when he did his military service. He told me stories that I thought were jokes but apparently not. For example; in his battalion, several recruits passed out and nearly died because the T-80 and BMPs they were in had bad fume extractors, so when they fired the gun, the smoke came back into the cabin and suffocated people. The gas masks don't work because the airtight seals had degraded. Food and the MREs were shit as well and he was jealous that we still have access to Tim Hortons and glorious McDonalds even on deployment in Afghanistan. And when I told him how much an E-5 made, which is Sergeant in the Marine Corps, he nearly fell off his chair.
@Uncle Paul so still russian
@Kenny the G Blame the winter and the fact that Hitler was being too overly confident in his plan to capture Moscow before it
Uncle Paul What about china
Well at least it was in the conscript one
_MaZ_TeR_ the Germans would not have won
This whole military hierarchy is probably even older than 50 years. When my dad was in the East German army (also conscripted) they had a similar system called "EK-Bewegung". My dad told me storied of having to scrub toilets in a hazmat suit, being forced to smuggle in alcohol to the base and how one guy died because they threw him, inside a cupboard, out of a window because he wouldn't sing when the older soldiers wanted to play "jukebox".
Really fucked up shit went down there.
@Ann Nifödova Bruh.
@Brave Rotert LMAO, Russian bot? Alles Klar.
@Brave Rotert I Said that about a post Defending Russia's Rampant military abuse.
@Brave Rotert Nice not funny joke.
well, next time
know that you gotta sing nigga
Lets start gofundme to buy Roman out of military
I agree, we better save Roman's hair before he goes bald.
gofundme till 3000 dollars hell yeah.
Great fkng idea!
@SkvidiChannel maybe. Because he definitely makes minimal off of all the demonetization. But, even with patreon, he's paying out a lot of expenses for everything also.
@Kristof P one person who doesn't even wanna be there to begin with only weakens the whole. That's why volunteers make such better soldiers.
@@rukus9585 expensese of telling storys in his moms house? how does that work?
I live in Russia and I am 16, today I passed the military registration and enlistment office. This is necessary in order for you to be registered and have a medical examination, everyone undergoes it before joining the army, then at the age of 18 you are rechecked again and if you are fit, then you go to the army. It was awful from submitting documents to leaving. They literally called me obscene words for not completely cutting out the photo, then the circle of hell began, we all crowded in a cramped room, going to different offices to the doctors for examination, they always accompanied us with an angry and displeased look. When I had to go through the last room (psychiatrist), I was asked "how do you feel about serving in the army?" I said "negative" after which she wrote something there and sent me on. Most people in Russia hate the obligatory army, because you need to serve a year and only men. If you enter a university, it does not mean that you will not go to the army, you also need a military department at your university, and they are not available in all universities. I am silent about the service in the army itself, because there you can't go with phones (if they see it, they will nail it on a nail at the main entrance so that everyone knows), paint the grass with green paint, build a country house for a major and about bullying in the army where people with senior ranks they are trying to humiliate you or, even worse, rape you. In general, I was not lucky to live in this country :(
I am 18 and I live in Syria. Might get drafted soon, and if I get drafted, I'll be gone for 5-8 years. See all the humiliation in the Russian army? Its worse here, plus we are at war and death is very possible.
I just don't care anymore. They want a monster? They'll get one.
@@iroquoiskaram8639 kbir🔥
same, sadly
they harassed me for my hair color (i dyed it ginger) and made fun of my sicknesses
also the psychiatrist was a weirdo and kept asking me about my divorced parents
terrible experience, i hope i can just migrate out of this shithole and live happily
@@cloverfield411 run the fuck away from Russia as far and as fast as you can
@@iroquoiskaram8639 this makes me so sad
When I was doing my obligatory service in the Finnish army we had quite a few guys with dual Russian-Finnish citizenships and many of them said the main reason they are doing it is that they could keep visiting Russia without having to worry about getting conscripted there because serving in the Finnish military gets them exempted from the Russian one.
why you guys have so many ruskies in Finland? That sucks.
@@MrCoconut212 Because there's 145 million ruskies living just across the border. It doesn't really suck.
Coconut212 I think ruskies don't sitting on welfare unlike other immigrants from the Middle East or Africa. It's outrageous that those people are more welcomed in Eastern and Nothern EU counties than ruskies who don't want any government help just to be allowed to live in civilized country.
@BRRP Can you both shut up about immigrants living on welfare?
BRRP Whut? Is it your personal bias or maybe you have some statistics? In the Czech Republic Russian emigrants definitely do not sit on welfare, many of them are actually IT and business people creating jobs or having a high payed jobs paying taxes etc.
* *_Roman having fun, being free, being normal_* *
Russia: I'm 'bouta end this man's whole career
I'm bouta*
@@hairdryermanson6955 Thanks.
@@porit1023 no problem my guy
they just fucked his life in a different way
Finland also has a mandatory military service for all males over 18 years old which usually lasts from 6-12 months. You can also just choose to go to civil sevice for a year. Or jail, well usually you are "free" but you have to walk around with a tracer wrapped around your ankle. They do a physical examination before you enter and just let people like asthmatics and diabetics free of the whole thing. Or just psychos. Even doctor's not saying you are wetting your bed at night can get you off the hook. Every weekend you get to go home unless there is some special occastion like training excercise. On some evenings you could also ho out to nearby town for some hours. And you spend the whole time doing actually army related stuff. Well, idk if collecting money for veterans counts as military stuff. You also get paid a little salary and the army pays your rent if you have own appartment. The food is like public school level food. Maybe a bit more options. Though in training camps it was sometimes just bad and I lost 15 kilos of my weight in just half a year. And I wasn't even overweight. Who mixes canned tuna and pasta with little to no spice!? Just didn't bring any own food really to training camps. You actually get to shoot there. We went to shooting range like once a month and shot a lot of blanks in excercises. Physical and mental abuse is taken very seriously by higher ups and the cases are sometimes handed over to police so the service was very civil. Just like hanging out with random dudes in forest with a boss yelling at you occationally.
I never was a conscript since I was discharged from the French Army, which was then compulsory, after 10 days at the combat engineer reserve officer school, because I didn't want to be there and my trench back in 1984 was definitely not on French soil. 1983-4 were those years when WWIII was getting real. When I asked one of the school's instructors, on the first night following induction before military discipline and the whole distance crap kicked in, what he intended to do when Andropov's tanks started rolling across the Fulda Gap, he told me he was going to don civvies and start moving West. This made me decide to go plan B with the psychiatric shtik, for which I had ample time to prepare since sleep deprivation was really easy to do in the barracks. So, a few years later, I became a reservist straight away in the IDF, with four months of intense training for starts. I never had much to complain about in that very civilian National Defense, combat-rated outfit I was affected to to be frank, and good times could be had aside of what needed to be done. My next generation was conscripted, and apart from a few problems my daughters had with the ill-fitting and unsightly uniforms issued to the female conscripts of a country that prides itself of its fashion industry, everybody had really positive, formative few years in the Army regardless of which branch they served in. The only requirement to get there was, seemingly, to know what you want and can do, and get detailed to actually learn a military trade that can be useful (or not) later in civilian life, or at a minimum afford you a network of buddies for life.
I feel like a special forces operator after watching this vid as a Finnish conscript lol
I wish we had something like this in America but with options like the peace corps or teaching abroad or doing other public service an an option
@@jjcoola998 National guard?
Finland's a country worth fighting for. I wouldn't mind being conscripted for Finland.
Finnish army is like a heaven compared to that. Probably because everyone has to go there regardless of socio-economical situation and corruption is practically non-existent.
But finns are determined from the draft is another factor whether you have to serve or not.
Everyone has to go? You only need a little bit of cleverness and you can very and I say VERY easily evade finnish military draft like I did. I don't understand how stupid guys are in Finland that goes there. For example I just threatened to doctor that "I would kill myself if they take me into army" and just kept repeating that threat until doctor gave me exemption (C-classification). So your statement that everyone has to go is bullshit. :D
@@poker1540 I'd honestly be a bit ashamed to fake an illness to avoid the military, but I do know of people who have done it (including my friend) and I do understand why they do it. I think in Finland we generally have a more positive attitude toward the military and thus less people avoiding it.
@@GameCaliber1 I don’t understand why they have such a positive attitude towards that unequal slavery. For example I have very negative attitude towards that insane concentration camp. Thankfully in Finland you just need to say that ”I’m good killmyself if I end up ik army” and you can evade. Why would you feel ashamed to fake an illness? It’s just cleverness when you can fake sometjing for your own benefit.
@@poker1540 I guess it comes down to upbringing and personal attitude toward the defense forces. Don't get me wrong, were it not mandatory, I wouldn't have gone either. I just think that for us having this system is necessary.
Putin: *"Interesting"*
next video "i just got a conscription letter in the mail from the russian army"
I cannot believe they only get 700 roubles a month! Then again, I don’t know generally how much people earn in Russia and how much things cost.
It’s a pittance to us Brits at £8.76 and wouldn’t even be enough to buy one packet of cigarettes.
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67 years old
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In the 1940's, 50's and 60's, the United States required two years of compulsory military service of males 18 to 25 years old. Males were conscripted typically at age 21 if they had not already served. Salaries were very low. Conscripts were likely to serve in real wars if any were going on. President Richard Nixon and the US Congress ended conscription in the early 1970s because it was very unpopular.
Well, it’s ain’t happening in Russia.
Oh that terrible Nixon, saving China, ending compulsory service what else did he do? Anyone know? Or are you simply educated by the entertainment industry?
It was compulsory to register for the draft upon ones 18th birthday in the US. Being drafted however was like losing the lottery... as many Vietnam era draftees fled to Canada and others found student or medical deferments to evade military service. A particular case in point was "Mister Bone Spurs" himself.
@@willfont1143 I concur. In case anyone does't know, Mr. Bone Spurs is former U.S. President Trump, who avoided military service by having a podiatrist send a letter to his draft board stating bone spurs made him unfit.
@@willfont1143you still do have to register for the draft when you turn 18 here. There just hasn’t been an active one since Vietnam, but in the event that one were to happen, they would have a list of people eligible for service this way.
So basically you must be a slave for 1 year with bonuses like:
>Pneumonia
>PTSD
Extra Bonuses: Constant humiliation, Physical abuse (With probability of lifetime injuries!) and 10$ per month!
Oof
Same as Greece
@B O U Y B O Y yeah how can daily beatings and humaliations stress you out beyond belief. Just, like, don't let it happen to you.
Conscription in greece is lit
@B O U Y B O Y Being beaten and humilliated the shit out of you by the higher ups in the army.
Everybody is gangster until India starts obligatory military service
100million soldier
@@gjergjkastrioti2966 yes 😈😈
@KinG of SomethiNG it already has. And most importantly, China may have more people than India, like a Germany volume of more people but India haves more youth.
@KinG of SomethiNG M240 go dadadada
No seriously though, without professional soldiers any future wars will turn into a bloodbath. Modern weapons are simply too efficient to throw bodies at until they run out of ammo.
America and Russia: *oh shi-*
I have a russian friend thats currently going through the porcess of being conscripted, I wish all the luck to him.
@@identity2257 coomer
@@CrafterboeyMiner fuck you too
@@identity2257 what the fuck is wrong with you
В России?
If it's so bad that soldiers get PTSD from basic training, then I can't imagine what they would have to endure during a war
@Ruturaj Shiralkar that was mostly due to poor leadership though
Getting slaughtered while professionals mop up the rest.
Conscripts are bad. There's a reason the US moved away from them after Vietnam.
@@orion8981Yip. Damn true
Death Penalty.
💀not one foot back💀
America: We should properly teach our soldiers to fight
Russia: If we keep throwing people at the bullets, eventually they'll run out of bullets.
Worked in WWII lmao
@Central Intelligence Agency and Israel
@Central Intelligence Agency There are reasons why they do.
@Central Intelligence Agency Singapore's and SK's armies are actually competent.
The worst part is that was true, in ww2 the Soviets would send lower tier infantry in first waves just to clear minefields. The Germans would still shoot at them as they valued the mines more than the 'threat' these troops represented
This correlates with accounts from Russian POWs saying that the Ukrainians who captured them treat them better than the Russian Army did.
Yeah, sure, and the NVA welcomed McCain with tea and sticky rice cakes.
Wow, the manufactured consent is strong RN.
@@hallerd what does that even have to do with.. -nvm .-.
Lol cognitive dissonance on fleek huh?
Especially those who had their throats cut and left to die. Truly Ukrainians treated them better (sarcasm)
@@GordonFreez got a video of that, or are you just Putin's lap dancer?
@@TheBLGL to be fair McCain was bombing there country
in finnish army (compulsory) we got pretty much every weekend off, had decent food and no violence against soldiers. good times
Yeah my friends tell me that it is pretty chill there now as Im going there in 3 months.
@@mlgsty8880 also we shot guns AND artillery guns alot in 1 year of service. i was an artilleryman
That depends in what company you were in and what year you served. I was in coastal jaeger company and we barely had any loma/weekends off and the military staff were hard and unforgiving, in a fair good way though. I've heard recruits have gotten it a lot easier now, like more loma and friendlier, softer approach from the staff.
Which is lame af imo. You're supposed to harden up while doing your service. Even though it was tough and the staff yelled and terrorized your mind, it was a fun time which left good memories of the hardships you went though with your serving mates, cause you all went theough it together.
@@iTzNitrOxZ huutista tykkimiehelle :D
@@BalmainRick no mut hei olin sentää valmiusyksikössä :D:D
Roman’s gonna make one of those Russian Army fail compliations🤣
Wow the Russian army sounds like my family
Blin,that's bad
You building houses for boomers as well? 😂
are u depressed huh
@@theycallmeuslessness808 This ain't a joke
Bruh,if u need help,join me on Discord
Spetsnaz 728#8057
Watching this in 2022 and Russia's crap fighting ability now makes a lot of sense.
I know 😂
Yeah. Like the US conscripts in Vietnam, getting their asses handed to them by rice farmers.
@@TheBLGL it's actually worse than that. They've taken more casualties in less than two months than the Yanks did in the first five years in Vietnam. And with a smaller force. Mind you, the Yanks had better training and equipment, and the VC weren't as well-equipped as the Ukrainians are. It's a pity that the Russians haven't learned not to use conscripts.
@@unclescipio3136 Well, Putin did believed to tuned reports and analysis of FSB. Putin did not told to FSB that he will for reel attack Ukraine, they did not told him the truth. So he expected to have Crimea 2.0. Basically, ex spy got trolled by own information service.
@@unclescipio3136 Where are you getting your info you poor brainwashed person? Yes Russians did bad job initially at Kiev and Chernigov they suffered a lot of losses because of poor logistics and preparation also lack of men. But now they are absolutely killing it at Mariupol and Donbass. It seems that Russia will win this war. So stop watching propaganda and actually learn to follow multiple sources and be objective.
Russian army is gonna teach you how to peel potatoes like a pro.
My dad said he had to peel whole bath full of potatoes with a spoon. There was a machine for it but it was broken, so he fixed it. Some time later the officer came and just smashed the machine and said "I told you, peel them with a spoon! "
like pro
greek army too :-p
Man, this comment did not age well. And clearly this Western has never heard of KP duty.
@@irakleuserakleus544 Turkish army too, execpt it's not potato but just workout :-p
Bruh, just marry me and move to the U.S.
It wont be gay, it's just a homie helping a homie
Edit: woag okay this comment lowkey blew up a bit. Nice.
no homo just fraud?
@Rob S nah man hes just a real homie he dosent led hes niggas down
Outta the closet but not 😆
I'm sure the Russian government recognizes gay marriage, go ahead my guy
That is an awesome idea. I can't wait to see what the police and army will say when he will say that he is married to a man. HA he will get a god beating and thrown I to the worse part of the army
It is scary how similar russian army is to the turkish army.
Man they are armies, most of them are similar in many ways regardless of country
I thought the same about how similar it is to the Brazilian army. The differences are small, both are pretty much the same.
When it comes to forced conscription turkey and Russia are at the bottom of the barrel. Really abysmal food, unstable environment and uncertain future. Singapore, Israel and South Korea are at the top of the hiearchy of nation's for conscription. Israel in my opinion the toughest of the 3 because immediate exposure to war culture from day 1 and despite the high quality basics it's mentally intense and exhausting to be at the brink of war 24/7 with border patrols and immigrants joining the military for quicker road to citizenship.
@FunnyPole War has changed
Thats just any army in the world.
You dodged a real bullet by skipping town, dude. This explains so much about what we've been seeing. Thank the gods for the corrupt and untrained at this point. I just feel so bad about the poor slubs being used as cannon fodder.
America: let’s put time and money into training soldiers so we have a good military
Russia: MeAT ShiEldS
man why this joke has so few likes
Mark idk I found it funny because it is true
*Basically.....*
Not to be that guy but oh well, this joke is not based on reality :D
cesar febres should he have said Soviet Union
You can’t just say, “throw out the poop sock,” and then go on like you never said, “throw out the poop sock.”
lmao
sarg found the poop sock
The Brazillian Army has a similar mandatory service time. Every male man has to present himself to the armed forces of Brazil when he is 18 year old.
I was a volunteer because I believe in our army and liked my year of service.
But this whole slave soldier thing is really bad, it destroys the soldiers morale because most of us join thinking we are going to contribute to our country with military service, learning how to fight to defend our country, but instead, we train for half a year, then its only cleaning, cutting grass and guard duty, while all the other people who didnt serve are studying.
But one thing military service does right is to prepare you for hardships. After serving you become much tougher and competent, I saw stupid teenagers turn into grown men because of hard training.
I dont know anything about Russian military though.
I served three years in the United states army and majority of the time I just cleaned and did guard duty at the desk. It was boring and I didn't even get to deploy while my unit went about to Europe and I had to stay so it wasn't enjoyable for me because I wanted to serve my country and not be a janitor or some shit. I was thinking of joining the legion and doing infantry again since I still crave the military life.
@FattyFludders (12B) Combat engineer. I was stationed in Fort Riley, Kansas and my unit was the 82nd Engineer battalion, 2nd Brigade, 1st Division. Didn't do much explosives training after my first year at my unit and just spent most of my time fixing Bradley's and doing guard.
@FattyFludders don't thank me Bubba I really didn't do anything. I just wanted to do my part and have a bit of adventure. But out of kindness from my heart I thank you for being appreciative. Did you serve as well or are you interested? It's good to talk to people from back home do to the fact that I'm not in the country at the moment and I miss the smell of freedom hehe.
@@joshuaarroyo7235 On the positive side, you are still alive and you don't need to worry about having PTSD, such as nor having nightmares of having to kill other human beings or seeing your friends blown up! Too many waking wounded, whose lives and relationships are destroyed due to PTSD!
@@lenitaa7938 PTSD is bad and I feel ache in my heart for those who experienced it. But one thing I can say from those who been to war and have suffered from PTSD is that they don't want to be treated any differently from everyone else. Just yesterday I was at the VA hospital doing a check up and had a conversation with a 20 year vet who told me that one of the things he hated about being in the civilian life was how everyone treated him like he was a sensitive person because of his deployment record. He been to several conflicts around the world and is the happiest guy you can meet. Guy was a hippie by heart. I'm grateful for my service and I would do it again in a heartbeat if I had to.
Glad to see this video reappear. I’m guessing it’s a bit safer now Roman is out of the RF.
Oh yes.
isnt it kind of a bad idea to post something about this while in contact with legal representation?
Deathicael
nuh , almost nobody in russian military cares about what you say on youtube or our social networks, until you say something like "Kill all russians" or terroristic stuff.Even if you say someth like that it will take ~half of the year-year for russian officials to react.In early days (2000-2012 or somth) nobody gave a shit about even that kind of stuff, couse russian secret service and police gave a shit only about money they can make and about whats going on on tv or another mass media.Russian info weaponary wasnt and isnt advanced enough, its not like euro one or american one.
Well russian army officials doesnt speak english and doesnt understand it (and doesnt know, what is "internet"). Really. Almost none of them. Because they are dumb uneducated boomer-vatniks. And thats really the only reason. There is even a stereotype about dumbness of soldiers, officers and generals, and its true. Smart people dont go in russian army.
So he could said anything he wanted.
Define "legal representation" or is OP getting to the court or something? If you're asking if it is a bad idea to post such videos while he's trying to get into EU, well, it doesn't really matter, not to EU definitely. Neither would care the government of Russia since he's not trying to get employed in the government or anything like that, though even then I doubt they would really care about something like this, after all OP is not trying to promote illegal activity in his video (although his views are biased and are mostly his opinion).
However, there is an organization in Russia that is trying to control the information flow, that includes the internet obviously. So, if someone notices this video (we're speaking of humans, not machines, humans that understand the language even) at worst OP will get strikes from this org for his video and it might get removed afterwards due to slander, misrepresentation, hate speech or what ever reason they may choose to block this video. That's about it. It really depends from how popular the video gets though, if it will appear in a feed in Russia, then the org certainly going to notice it. Still, usually they're going after videos with "problematic" footage or extremely offensive footage and there is none of that in the video, so it's really hard to tell if they going to bother. After all, there are even actual journalists in Russia that are getting away with much worse articles.
@@raytrace2432 I think you are the one who is dumb and uneducated. Learn how to spell.
Ray Trace i think your a bit underestimating the russian military intelligence there...
It’s just the principle of: „if we throw enough people at them, they’ll eventually run out of bullets“
The Russians play CoD Zombies
"According to Nikita Khrushchev, 1.5 million men were sent to Finland and one million of them were killed, while 1,000 aircraft, 2,300 tanks and armored cars and an enormous amount of other war materials were lost. Finland's losses were limited to 25,904 dead or missing and 43,557 wounded."
It's actually used to save costs of running the military by having cheap labor run the menial tasks.
Conscripts arn't the same as soldiers.
@@HazeCake It was 100 000-200 000 which is a lot but those numbers are ridiculous and unrealistic
Can we raise 3000$ for Roman to be able to pay himself out of the army in case his plan of 'getting a disease" wouldn't work?
sure, setup a gofundme
Big Neuton He should set it up
No.
This comment aged well...
effawefweafawefwefwfqwWQEWEFEYHTYKJYUKUT why?
This aged like fine wine
ID SAY especially the part about just ignoring pre existing health conditions and just conscripting anyone
the first clip of the Russia's Army Green men singing the Barbie Girl song is just gold.
Back in the 90s before Putin came to power, when the Russian army was pretty much crap and defunded after losing wars in Afghanistan and Chechnya. It's a whole different story nowadays.
@@XVRMEDIA exactly.
The Russian army now has conscripts but they aren’t even used for warfare. That’s when the professional contract soldiers come into play. That’s who the little green men are. Or the guys in Syria. All contract soldiers who are far better trained, equipped and motivated.
*Literally anyone who lives in the Middle East* : ok
What ... what do we have to do with the Russian army .
@@jameel3361 Mandatory Conscription
@@puntoni it does not exist in every nation in the Middle East , like Iraq for example.
I mean America used to have mandatory conscription and guess what we LOST TO A BUNCH OF RICE FARMERS!
@Christian Kneupper Mandatory conscription was removed after the Vietnam war, because of it.
Beating up, humiliating some young dudes for the "hierarchy"
Have those dudes never seen Full Metal Jacket? Someone is gonna go full Private Pyle Mode. (Just learned, he's called Private Pyle in english, not Paula)
they get theirs ak only at shooting range and it's pretty often when young soldiers shoots the fuck up bullies
There have been cases when bullied soldiers go amok. There's a report of a soldier killing his comrades in chechnya.
We have private Pyle like cases almost every year.
Full metal jacket, ugh you disgust me major payne is way better
I did the same mistake because in the German version he is called Paula too?
Im glad we have a Professional volunteer Military here in the U.S. I mean I know they can open the draft if shit gets bad, but as a standing Military force we have a quite large 100% volunteer Military
*Laughs in My Lai Massacre - cue Fortunate Son*
I enlisted in 2010 and enjoyed my time in the US Army. My unit was 10th Mountain Division and we were pretty professional and always training.
@@TheBLGL yah, thats sort of the reason why we don’t have a conscript army anymore.
if things get that bad then the draft will never be an option, the military will just start launching nukes
@@baneofbanes The My Lai Massacre didn’t just happen because conscription, the people responsible kinda went nuts due to the war and they were basically bastards
This man gives more info about the Russian army in 6 minutes than a 2 hour long documentary that you´re forced to watch in school.
and most of the information he gave is trash. because the conscription numbers dont go to the total active service members of the army and not every unit is treated the same just like in the us being in the nasional guard is not the same as being a cook in the navy.
@@andrejthedrunckbear "nasional"
No?
@@andrejthedrunckbear shit nation shit economy shit army
@Владимир Пукин ah yes bored people dont do stupid shit in any other army...
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there is more on live leak
privet 2ch anka
Hiding out in Chelyabinsk disco for a year.
Hide in Chenarus
City 40
@@BoostedPastime i see you play arma 2 too :)
@@opfoca1oparrowmarinerecon154 oh yes lol. AnzusWarGames
Boosted Fool then you might fight Russia though...
Расскажи им про шамана, который шел изгонять Путина.
Darth Orcid
I wound unsub if he wouldn't include Shaman King theme.
Well, this explains a lot in 2022... Sad that young people die for the ambitions of some megalomaniac leader when they could have done something useful for them, their families, society in general.
Very few people served in the Soviet/Russian army among the Russian elite. Almost no one.
*This comment has been deleted by the Russian federation for safety purposes*
stfu
@@vizprave6721 no u
ah, the good old gay propaganda!
Cringe
Oof
If the Russian army is like this it's no wonder Simo Häyhä was having a field day.
Yeah
"wear brown coats" they said, "you'll be fine" they said...
It's not like this.. the IMCC is the corrupt branch if the army. The real people who actually stay get real training just like US army I to
@@AK47_414 whats the IMCC
@ASMR BULLY it sounds like young cadets or something .
I don’t think that making a UA-cam video about this is the best way of hiding from the army
99,99% of people in military are actually old fucks, who barely know what youtube is about and none of them speak english so it is pretty safe to do it, and at the end of the day he use lawyers to find legal way to avoid service so this video do nothing anyways
@@bsbdptsd Cuz u would know
@Neromare Works Its called being a pussy
@@nikolanojic6861 yes, defend your horrible country that goes against all there own citizens human rights
@@mrshamf3484 Its kinda in need to ,i mean if Stalin didn't do what he did and industrialize Russia at the cost of his own people well Russian state wouldnt be standing today as a Country
It use to be like this in my former communist country before joining NATO. Because NATO requested reforms of the army and abolishing conscription there where a lot of videos of the abuse conscripts where subjected to at the time the decision to abolish conscription was made.
Yeah and I'm sure Traian was the right politician at the right place.
nfkrz watch out there's a sniper on the rooftop
oh no he cant hear us hes got airblyats in
A newly drafted soldier killed himself and five others in the Russian army a while ago.
This occurs time to time repetitively since Soviet times.
@@ivarkich1543 This happens from time to time in all the armies of the world.
It happens everywhere. Even here in the UK occasionally, even though our army is top notch. Not everybody is cut out for for it, but for some it's their only option left. When they realize they can't handle it, they hang themselves in their room.
@@AWtify what makes it even more unfortunate is when conscripts do it, as they really had no choice whether they will or wont go.
No big deal. He would have been killed in a war anyway because he wasn't a man, he was a woman.
No one:
Roman: THIS IS ABSOLUTELY ABYSMAL
Okay...
Brony
@@charlotterose1006 yes.
@@charlotterose1006 what's worse than a brony? TWO BRONIES!
@@Delta.Garage What's worse than two bronies? A communist.
You dodged a bullet. Literally you really dodged a bullet.
Keep making the good moves baby!
🤣😂
1 year? Thats cute.
Greetings from Syria.
That's cute, greetings from North Korea
@@FredLimestone wait, North Corea has public internet access?
@@FredLimestone virgin North Korea vs Chad Syria lel
@@AdamVelazquezVA it's a joke, he isnt from north korea
@@user-vk3uz3ml6t yeah man, I know. There's no such thing as Internet In North Korea
Im a russian citizen, but lived nearly my whole life in germany and I cant be conscripted cause i have a permanent living permission there.
So.. suck it millitary hehe :P
@@Marco-bf4uu Bundeswehr. Vier kämpfen für Deutschland.
@grand wizard durch Personalmangel nur vier
I got conscripted and I was a dual citizen on US and Russia living in the US. Took like 5 years to get that resolved. Some paperwork fuck up somewhere most likely.
Regardless I'm probably not gonna risk going back home to Moscow till I'm out of the age bracket. Which sucks because I really do miss home sweet home.
@@CloroxBleach-fd6ph What Germany?
@@googleownsyou8510 Bundeswehr.Four fight for germany. Its their slogan with a bit satire my friend
Sad to hear that Finnish obligatory military service earns a Russian monthly salary in one day
Its pretty much the same in Norway (16€ a day). Rip Roman
@bbonner422 o think it's different if you go to the Dragsvik part of the navy
That’s pretty bad too.
Its 100 euros a month in Estonia
Sychlo Killent And you expect your guys to fight on ridiculous salaries like that?
As a Finnish ex-conscript, after watching this video, I now feel like a god of warfare... 😅
It’s a known fact conscripted armies perform worse than volunteer armies
Not if you are fighting invaders of your country then its good to know at least how to properly shoot and service your weapons.
Not always. Israel has conscription but the soldiers are highly trained and on par with the US army (they often train together and learn from each other). Service is three years, a year of which is training.
@@command_unit7792 True, if you sign a contract in Russia you get good training and pay. OP was comparing conscripts to contractors, saying contractors perform better. I pointed out an exception - Israeli combat conscripts, who are comparable to contractors is the best armies in the world. Also, non-combat conscripts is Israel have way more shooting days than Russian ones and most of them get meaningful jobs and skills.
Why? Is it becouse of the size ( if its a smaller army) like for example there is draft in Denmark and they have 8 month s draft and they perform just as good as everybody else
@@radking9854 If they serve 8 months it means they train for maximum of 2 months. They can't be as good as someone who trained for a year or more, like contractors do.
NFKRZ...sounds like the name of a soviet tractor factory
NFKRZ is like the russian news but without the corruption .
Nice
@woahtoast b r u h
And without propaganda
NFKRZ is the Vice and CNN of russia on the internet. Nonstop liberal nonsense, no different from liberal SJWs on youtube here in the States
@@kutuzovm3215 hell yeah murica yee haw
This hits differently in 2022
Lmao at anyone who thinks conscripts actually get paid a proper wage.
120 dollars a year is a proper wage, why would you need more?
Even in South Korea its a problem. when I was stationed their the Korean soldiers be bunked with got treated just like this. They technically received a decent salary but the Korean government takes most of it away and the soldier receives like 76 dollars.
@@troy2286 a conscripted military will never surpass a well establish volunteer military. The department of defense realized this after Vietnam because those who volunteered were more willing and loyal to the cause than those who were forced into it. In WW2 we had a draft but rarely used it because we had lots of volunteers for the war and that's what helped us win.
Army gives you a place to live - don't have to pay rent, gives you food and clothes. You're not goin to the army to make money.
I’m conscripted in Denmark and get 2k usd after taxes per month.
Rest of the world: let’s invest into our military so we have good soldiers
Russia: HUMAN WAVE TACTICS
Its sad too because they are no longer able to sustain a war like that. I believe in 2019 they lost population despite annexing crimea.
@@Its_shiki_time4876 as a russian, I don't think it's sad. Why would I be sad that our government can't just throw people in encirlements under enemy fire?
@@fargusmaloy that's a good point
Russia literally does the exact same thing🤦♂️
@@user-oq2ez5lz8w Am I not getting something or are you just biased.
I love you which is why I want to tell you that there is a slight difference between "eligible" and "illegible". Only take note if you want to further improve your already impeccable English my friend
Good God imagine the hell of being a Soviet solider during WW2.
The Red Army suffered the most casualties out of all factions in WWII. In many age groups, almost all men either died or came back wounded.
Go in the snow and the grass they said The brown uniforms are camo they said
You'll be fine they said
Not sure if someone else made this comment
@@Tuppoo94 also tanks because they were massed produced it was 83,500 Tanks that were destroyed (number might be wrong)
LOL NFKRZ thinks he's going to move back to Russia after he lives in Europe for a few years... so cute... you might visit but I doubt you'll go back (rather: I doubt that you'll want to go back)
I did my mandatory national service in Finnish Jaeger Corps 9 months, after that I enlisted and did two rotations in Kosovo and one in Chad. I got even promoted from private to corporal. I completely understand why some people want to avoid conscription, and I hope you will get thru clean. None should be forced to serve.
But there is a huge difference between Russian conscription and Western Consription
A female trooper? AWESOMMMEEEEE!! (Sorry if i creep ya out. That wasn't the intention. It's genuinely rare to hear about or see a female soldier who's seen combat or served in real life. For several reasons, yes. But Uuuuggghhhhh!) Also, Jaeger Corps sounds badass. Reminds me of the Fallschimjaeger and the Jagpanther. Aaaannnnd the Jaegers.
@@soldatdaniels8738 He's not female as that's a male name.
@@olli9984 My bad! Cheers to you anyway forer trooper Mika!
Btw, Mika and that pic goes together so well.
have you considered doing a documentary on Kino/Viktor Tsoi? 💜
YES PLEASE
or nautilus pompilius,u piter,ddt and igor talkov and many more
Righttt
@@ee326k i prefer kino but nautilus is great my fav song is zver
YES YES YES
Interestingly when I was in the US army there were two or three Russians in my last unit, one may have been Ukrainian, one of whom served two years on the Russian army. One said he was a truck driver and the only training he received was marching, wearing the uniform, fired his AK once, and convoy driving. He said the pay, food and accommodations sucked. The other two spent their time guarding buildings and bases and they received more weapons training but everything else sucked. They said we were treated and trained so much better.
No one cares, voluntary murderer.
Polish military had the same issues with young soldiers being physically and mentally abused, and I hate when people say "oh, but it's military, at least they'll come back tough and normal, not like these days." Tell me where depression, PTSD, bruises and overall a scar for life is normal. You already kill eachother on a battlefield (and war is enough to absolutely destroy a human), so I think you can act civilised among other people who are in the same position as you at least.
Uhhh its the military.
Your supposed to be abused in basic training.
That is the entire point
But you are not drafted in Poland, its not obligatory
No seriously its the military abuse is part of it
I didn't question that all I m saying is that we can't compare Russian service to Polish.
@@erykj1596 i know
When my dad went to the Red army one guy in his regiment who was targeted, accidentally got killed in an attempt to humiliate him.
That's horrible
@@fatmandirtball4746 Oh that's just the tip of the iceberg. Just read the Wikipedia page for "Dedovschina" and you'll be absolutely horrified.
Raping, Torture, Anal insertion of glass bottles and metal staves etc.
And as Roman mentioned, the higher ups don't care, since they are responsible for anything going wrong in the regiments.
And this happened in Chelyabinsk
"In 2012, a draftee from Chelyabinsk region, Ruslan Aiderkhanov, was raped and tortured to death by his seniors. The one witness who was willing to testify against the alleged perpetrators, Danil Chalkin, was later found shot dead in his military base. A contract soldier, Alikbek Musabekov, was later arrested in this incident."
As a Russian with dual citizenship I am glad I won't have to live through this bullshit.
Not a problem in USA a lot of them committ suicide
@@danielk3919 jesus fucking christ it's worse than i thought
@@luisromanlegionaire in US you get to choose whether to serve or not
I don't know what they were feeding soldiers back in Yugoslavia, but my dad apparently went up 20 kg while serving in millitary for a year.
Bureks fam
In general Yugoslavia actually had a decent military service. My dad actually learned how to assemble and disassemble an assault rifle lmao
Hahahah My dad as well. He was fatter in JNA and now he's skinny.
We had a military barracks just 100m near park where we played as kids so soldiers would always call as 2 buythem something in shop across ..my brothers served the army but i did not want so i was avoiding it until my 30s until they give up
My dad brought a whole meal to his unit and shared it, it was cooked by his mother. A lot of meat and bread.
Army: Oh so you're an 18 yo healthy male? Pack your things you're going to the gulag
so true
The gulag was a forced labour system that was disbanded in the 1960s.
@@Coldbreezed
We know
Why you shiting
@@Coldbreezed And what is army? It's a forced labour system established in 1874
omg the same exact thing happens in egypt, i thought we were the only ones suffering from this stupidity from the government
Plenty of countries still around with mandatory military service. Some bad and some good.
Im finnish and going to army service in 3 months and so far from what I have heard its okay (from friends and relatives).
Obviously I cant really judge other countries situations as I dont know how military service works in other places.
Same thing with South Korea.
Same here in Thailand. My military junta government fucked everything up since 2006.
Mandatory in Greece here as well
Ukraine too! :D imagine me and Roman meet each other on the battlefield on the opposite sides :D what a stupid thing modern boomer-designed world is
Also, here in Kazakhstan I heard rumours that some recruits came in their piss bottles for medical tests before army to make their protein level much higher than normal so that they don't get recruited. I wanted to try this but thought I might get into trouble for this)))
So they can make you do things like cleaning up at Chernobyl.
Singing-in-the Rain Chernobyl is in Ukraine
@@alextopolis2703 The liquidators were from all over the USSR.
Alextopolis that rhymed
That's Ukraine's headache
@brmbly HAHAHHAHAHAHA THIS ONE IS GOOD
In fairness, the U.S. used to have a military draft until around fifty years ago…which might have explained some of our problems in Vietnam.
The ‘Nam problem was so much bigger then just conscription, as the CIA stated in it’s report about spying on Hippie and anti-war movements. “The country is getting divorced from reality” whenever that happened due to Vietnam or not is another story.
Males still need to register for it but I think it's only actually enacted when there's a war and the president specifically decides to enact it. Due to the backlash in Vietnam obviously nobody since has wanted to start a draft for our foreign wars, but I remember that actually being a huge fear when the Iraq and Afganistan conflicts started.
Professional troops usually do better than conscripts and draftees.
@@RRW359 If we start fighting with the Chinese we’ll all get drafted, let’s hope that the situation in the south china sea doesn’t blow up.
Really? I thought the american military was solely professional soldiers.
Didnt knew that.
Thank you for that.
I can relate to a lot of this. Here in Chile it's almost all the exact same, at least as far as I know, same age range, same uselessness and forced attendance, obviously corrupt, they steal money by the millions and retire at 40 basically earning the same amount. You get sent to buttfuck nowhere, either the desert up north or the rainy south near the south pole, and live in shit conditions for like 6 months I think, if not a year. The fucking military is so inept that thay once sent a squad to run up the mountains as training during a snow storm and they all fucking died. And here I am, weakest person I know, I nearly passed out once during PE class, and apparently I have no medical condition that can keep me out of there, so I was basically forced to study something right as I finished high school to stay away from the military, and then I had to drop out because it was not for me. I was lucky that my dad could pay and there was no debt, but I still could get called again, same for my brothers. The military is good for nothing, the only people they ever fought was ourselves during the dictatorship and our neighboring countries for no reason, they do not defend, they attack unprovoked. They're one of the reasons I hate this country and I'd wish to move out forever from here. I once thought Russia would be a good place to go, but I see that we share some similarities that I don't appreciate, still would like to visit as a tourist once, and I'd say the same for Chile, good country to visit, but never come live here, unless you're Haitian or Venezuelan it seems, it's possible to have it worse in life.
The Chilean Army and Air Force does good work in Antarctica - they have participated in many rescues there. And they run a post office down there too, which was much appreciated during my visit! Love Chile. :)
The only good thing about chile... Is the meme community and cazuelas
"do the dirty work...through out the poopsock."
i was hoping to hear a deep explanation about how the poopsock is a notorious hazing method used in russian military camps or prisons or something
@@DieForDethklok11 all the soldiers in the barracks share a poop sock because theres no toilet paper in russia, once all the clean spots are used up, the lowest guy in the hierarchy has to throw out the poopsock
This video is eerily prophetic in a way, from a 2022 perspective.
Sounds like Greek military service -- same thing y'all.
I live in the UK; from what I have heard from friends is that the training for the British army is pretty fun, it has built their confidence and that the food you're given is really tasty.
Curry is a pretty popular food in the British Army
@@beaucaspar3990 sounds good ... So how's your 1st world country problems going rn
@@itszebra9710 Covid-19 is still prevalent, there's a possibility another lockdown will happen. Just like most countries
@@beaucaspar3990 Man I really wanted to enlist in the British Army but Covid fucked everything. Thanks PRC.
Things aren't that bad.The equipment is sometimes old but not Russia level.
The Russian army is trying to create another Private Pyle from Full Metal Jacket
as an armenian who's about to join the army russian and armenian army's are literally the same, I want to study abroad just like Roman, but I have no choice
also it's 2 years
F
South korean is 1 year 6 month forced
algeria 1 year only
Turkey is also 2 year, but you can pay your way out
Roman, my son went into the Army just after high school in 2013. I wished he would have gone to college \ ROTC, army. He ended up in Afghanistan in 2015. I was devastated. He survived and was finished with his commitment in 2016. He bought a house with his Army time and now is doing well. It was a horrible time for me as a parent.😐
Aged like fine wine 🫡
Watching this from Taiwan (ROC) and we have mandatory military service as well, sounds like we have similar issues in the military system..
Well at least conscription in Taiwan is somewhat understandable, with the constant loomimg threat of the mainland and all...
Except there is no youth movement to prepare children prior
I guess Russia hasn't left the quantity over quality mindset
Almost.
actually not true, Putin stated just the opposite recently, in regards to him lowering the military budget
@@kutuzovm3215 since when was Putin a reliable source of information?
@@add-5 since fact check every quote of his for the last 20 years and realize his accuracy rating is 90% of the average western politician
Ballsack l eventually it has to change. ethnic Russians do not want to reproduce anymore so manpower resources become more and more limited.
Watching this now in 2022 explains so many things.
Egypt's army is largely built on conscripts that server up to three years and are professionally trained. it also holds a force the size of the third of its army which are very highly trained all around units made up of non conscript soldiers.