[999 미션직캠] 'O.O.O' MISSION 평가 | 2팀
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[999 미션직캠] 'O.O.O' MISSION 평가 | 2팀
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Seriously this is the most balanced group for O.O.O mission, the unisound when they’re singing together, it feels like more like girlgroup, stable vocal and rapper, the formation executed very well and no one shadowing each other, everyone shines brightly through their parts! Their teamworks is no joke! This is what what we call a debut girl group material!
Yass true
I love how balanced this group is. They shine individually but did not overshadow each other. I am so happy to see them performing together.
How did they choose the group for this?
@@kristyle2271 We actually voted for the teams. In the app, we were asked to vote who our top 9 are.
yes tbh, they look more of a girl group that the ones who are on the top ... this group combination is great
i think this team has the right balance and not to mention their synchronization is the most pleasing one!!
Yes no one tries hard to standout cause they have their own spotlight
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May and Bayiyih's vocals is just *chefs kiss*
OMG YESSSSS. Their vocals are wow, so special, sweet and cute!!!
May was so shocking since she didn’t really stood out, but her vocal sounds so sweet. Bahiyyih did well too of course.
Not gonna lie this team got all rounders even though they are not top9 but they fill eachother they don't outshine any members their stage presence and formation change is so professional
So proud of how Bahhiyyih has improved. Let's go Bahhiyyih, I'm rooting for you!!
bahiyyh was so stable throughout the whole song, i hope y'all give her enough love and credit for the talent she actually has:(
I AGREEE ^^
I wanna praise how good everyone was, especially Bahiyyih, May, Fu Yanning, Kotone and Suyeon. They're all great, these girls would just be locked in my top 9 if we could pick from any country.
+ Bora, Xiaoting... etc
Cai bing!!!! She improved so much I've only heard her as a rapper but her vocals here too! Also their execution of the choreography! Shana, Suyeon Ririka and Yaning's vocal too. I love how everyone of them usually does not complement e/o and do different genres but they have a great synergy here.
let's vote her❤️
@@caisxhb6566 yesss! I've been voting for her since day one 🥺
I really loved Bahiyyih and May’s voices and I had no idea Cai Bing’s vocals could be so soft and sweet since she’s usually so powerful. I like her a lot and was worried she might not fit the sweeter concept the group will likely have, but this just proved Cai Bing can do it all!
This group was the most in sync and compared to others… I think this group has members that complement each other
I like this group's performance the most. They are balanced and not overpowering each other. You can see them that they want to win as a group, not as an individual, and that's one of the important aspects of being in a group; TEAMWORK.
All members showcased their charms and talents in their own way, but the synchronization is still present. I love their dance break too!
@@rebelgaming8540 can you stfu? just because bahiyyih is in this team doesn't mean anything. also stop discrediting bahiyyih, you're probably just hating on her because she's kai's sister.
@@rebelgaming8540 emmm
Hello i liked the team not because Hiyyih is there (who nailed it)
They really get the feel of o.o.o that i somehow did not feel in the other groups
@@abbycarreon9697 open your eyes and mind. Other trainee skill who eliminated are better then hiyyih :(
@@rebelgaming8540 you think i dont know that? u shouldnt be putting down another trainee to lift another one, that would just make u look stupid.
@@abbycarreon9697 just my honestyyyyy~ not stupid lol
No lie, this team is the most in sync and stable
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Let's be honest, this group is the strongest when it comes to vocal
Best Center
Best Vocalist
Best Rapper
Best dance break
This team literally have everything we need!
Couldn’t have said it better, cheering for this team to debut!
If this team will debut;
Yaning: Main vocalist, lead rapper, lead dancer
Suyeon: Main dancer
May: Lead vocalist
Bahiyyih: Lead vocalist
Caibing: Center, Lead dancer, Lead rapper
Shana: Lead vocalist
Kotone: Main rapper
Xing Qiao: Main/Lead vocalist
Ririka: Sub rapper/vocalist
Face of the group will depends on what concept they will go for. Also, for the visual I would say Yaning, May or Caibing
Main vocal shana.
Bahiyyih Can Debut But I Saw A Tiktok Account Bullying Her and Making Fun of Her. What did she do?
@@kaylieplayz670 she gets hated bc people r saying she's popular only because of Kai (TXT) her brother
@@kaylieplayz670 idrk know if what I know is true tho
xingqiao is visual too
This group is so balanced, the vocals and raps are stable, synchronized and the stage presence and I really enjoyed it. Group 2, All rounders
True
unlike other groups, you can clearly hear the differences in their voices and i think that's beautiful +++ their synchronization. DAMN IT. this group should win.
A buddy spotted. We always consider synchronization haha.
this is the group of the trainees who got
-evil edited
-less screentime
and deserve much much better
put them in a group an it is the most amazing combination ever
This group is definitely better than the other two groups. They have clearer/better vocals and all are seen, no one surpasses the other members. A well balanced group!
I personally think that this team is more suited to this mission because their vocals and raps really suit with the song
True
if only people judge talent over looks 😭
YASSSS
@@nabilaqlan1347 ikr
This is honestly a really well balanced team, with different colours and vocal tones, solid rappers, dancers and vocalists^^
This group definitely has the most clear vocals istg.
I was just about to say this. IT'S CLEARER THAN MY FUTURE😭😭
The vocals in this team are very diverse. They're different yet complimenting one another. It gives the song depth and wholeness. I like it
Especially 3:45 we can see how different xingqiao and caibing voice colour....
This team vocal harmony the best becaude diversity of vocal colour
this team consists of
- Suyeon
- May
- Bahiyyih
- Xing Qiao
- Yaning
- Shana
- Cai bing
- Kotone
- Ririka
PLEASE REMEMBER TO LEAVE A LIKE ON BAHIYYIH TEAM VIDEO IS IN, BECAUSE IT REALLY HELPS HER A LOT‼️
This time is for what?
@@grapej1 yes ^^
Wow
@@Gabz98_ latest mission before final
POPULAR OPINION: This team is the most balanced, filled with all rounders, best dance break, and has most of the underrated trainees in the whole show!
Agree best dance break
Agree
Yh that's so yrue
Indeed
yesyes they got the rappers, dancers, visuals and vocalist 😭😭 and i really want them to debut
I think this team has the best choreography. Everyone can be seen and not blocked by the front row. And the line kept changing formations while still staying neat. Although I'm not a cai bing stan, I see the feeling of salute group in the formation of this team, is cai bing in charge of the choreography?
Good job girls! Please let's support them!
I think some parts are the same in the Salute performance, so Cai Bing might be in charge of the choreography.
5 of them choreographed the Salute Team. Yoon Jia played a large part in it.
@@PolarticaStorm so as Cai Bing
3:01 it reminds me of Salute's intro. And look who choreographed the intro in Salute? It's Cai Bing.
@@PolarticaStorm Cai Bing was in charge of the team moves in the salute. I don't know what it's called exactly in English, like the position of each person in the team and the walking route, the way the team formation changes, etc.
The formation of this team is very similar to that of Salute, which has never been seen in other performances. Therefore, I think Cai Bing might be responsible for the choreography of this team as well.
Jia was probably responsible for the hand movements, etc., rather than the direction of movement of the whole team
this group definitely has the better vocals, better dance break and overall better synchronization than the other two groups. really makes you wonder why these girls aren't ranked much higher. they work really well together like they could already be a real girl group on their own. they killed this performance!! really rooting for them, especially my girl bahiyyih! fighting!! 💕
Bahiyyih cant debut on this group. Lol. She got many vote just because Huening sister and hybephobic lol
@@rebelgaming8540 nah love she’s talented you can’t lie she’s good
@@rebelgaming8540 idk man, bahyyih is stable in stage and yes she got fans from her brother but most of them chose to support her more because she has talent.
@@Anonymiss-gi9st YESSS... Say it louder so that the haters can hear it
@@rebelgaming8540 get a life, i guess, stop bringing up Kai's name
This Group is so balanced, the vocals and raps are so stable, synchronized and the stage presence and i really enjoyed it
i need some impact.
I agree!!
Bahiyyih, May, and Shana was the most stable and deserves more line in this line up. Suyeon and Yaning are great too. Kotone's rap part was the best among the 3 groups
But I think these ones are the most popular ones and very likely to debut. I don't think they deciced this line up by favoritsm.
i also felt like ririka was super stable
@@lastdance6544 this is based by votes :)
kotone really deserve to debut and become rappers, she suit the position the most
Kotonr, bahiyyih kaja
This team is the most balanced team to me. They all shine individually, all trainees did not try to outshine each other. THEY ARE JUST PERFECT!
agree 👍
Agree :D
For right!
I have to admit that this team is perfectly showing us what a girl group performance looks like. From the way they sang, the way they dance, they complement and balance one another as a team.
Not being biased but this team has the best dance break part.
True the body roll on team 1 dance break looks out of place when I first saw it.
True. What made their dance break the best is the blockings...
@@renace8128 yes like...
yeah true
@@renace8128 same
Most of the girls here have distinguishable voices and it just fits so right. And ngl this team has a balanced if not unusual composition ranging from having top9 members to low ranked ones. And it freaking works.
I agree!! They were able to showcase their own unique charms here and still have that balance a group needs
After watching all 000 performances, I came back here just to say that these girlies performed better than the others. I mean their voices are so unique that you can easily tell who is who. Idk why this group is so Underrated but in a 4K quality. This group is the only one who gives justice to the song tbh.
Agree. Ya i repeat this many times!😉
I agree with you!!
Agree with you too, they are creative and seems relax
@Jenni Jelly fr 🤧 I hope they give these girlies a chance because they're so talented to just let go
bahhiyih, may and shana's vocal are so refreshing^^
I never thought I would see Bahiyyih, Shana and Yaning performing in the same group, what a shift especially for bahiyyih but I really liked what I watched here
I agree this team has dance break that fits the vibes of the song the best, not too weak but not too overwhelming either. Also don't forget Kotone's rap, she gets her swag without trying too much.
That “flick” they did with the symbol crash at 2:57 was so satisfying I kept replaying it.
This group is so balanced, their vocals are distinct, their rap are great, their dance break is really suitable for the song, and most importantly the feeling that they convey is the same so it feels like they are a group instead of multiple person.
YES YES
I TOTALLY AGREE!!!!
i agreee this team dance break is much more neater than the other teams hence why it is really pleasing to the eye
@@alysaamni4613 Yes!,!!
This group was the most balanced and in sync but knowing MNET this isn’t the group that is going to debut - unlike the other group this one doesn’t have many Top 9 members and the people who almost never got screen time are in this group. I hope that after this show that the girls don’t give up on their dreams and debut soon
i really hope this group is the one that debut they have a lot of potential
The "M-Net Made us Dirty" line. All these are freaking talented and most of then are ready to debut. I hope that if they don't debut through this competition, some companies will make their dreams come true. Hoping for the best for these gals. Fighting!
M-net literally made them dirty especially Yaning and Cai Bing
@@akiyaxiel2987 and dont forget mnet using bahiyyih.. Ah mnet🐍🐍🐍
yes most girls gere are either evil edited (ahm yaning and caibing) or completely ignored lol
XD That made me Crack up.
Yeah I hope even if they don't debut in this program, they still are successful.
this group is so much better than team 1! they feel so cohesive, all their moves are super in sync and theyre just so well balanced. they deserve to win!!
in my opinion this group is very well-balanced. their stable vocals really blend well and compliment each other, their choreography is also on point. overall, their energy, vibe, and vocal color really suit this song the most.
agree
Agree
Bahiyyh and Shana's voices are stunning!
and guys... let's admit, this is the cutest fyn we've ever heard 😭
Not anymore, we got ladybug fyn 🐞
Omg finally someone who loves the two most hated contestants.
@@maknaetzuyu2402 shana was hated???
@@kpoplovinpanda no I meant Bahiyyih and Yaning.
This group is way better in all terms. We have the underrated but talented girls here.
KIK SU YEON IS THE PERFECT EXAMPLE 🤧
Whoever choreographed the dance break deserves a praise. This group has the best dance break plus the cleanest execution of steps. Plus the vocals. This group suits the best for this song. BUT SERIOUSLY THE DANCE BREAK IS 🔥
For sure that is suyeon’s choreographed
Maybe Suyeon and Cai Bing?
Some parts remind me of Salute
@@kieleverdeen5170 yes especially the formations. Cai bing 👀
I have a feeling that Suyeon and Cai Bing helped each other to make the choreography and formation. Some parts remind of Salute but in different approach.
They have their own charms but they didn't outshine each other. They are balance. The vocals is so good. The dance is so satisfying to watch esp the dance break.
I come back to this from time to time. I really miss Yaning and Caibing and other girls a lot 😭
me too 😭😭
Despite the fact that this group has no superior dance line, this group attracts me the best during the dance break idk why. They blend well altogether, no one tries to shine brighter than anyone else. One thing that surprises me the most is Yaning. I thought she would be weird to do such a cutesy concept but she's doing great here.
She was cute and lovely when she was in ywy2
YANING IN CUTE CONCEPT AND AS CENTER IS WHAT WE ALL NEED. LOOK HOW SHE BALANCED THE GROUP THAT RESULTS TO GOOD FLAVOR OF THE PERFORMANCE. THIS IS THE BEST LINE UP FOR ME. HAVE STABLE VOCAL, RAPS AND DANCERS. I WISH BORA AND MASHIRO CAN JOIN HERE. IT WILL PROBABLY THE PERFECT ONE.
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I love bora and mashiro, but this group is balance already esp in height.. they are satisfying to watch.
This sounds better than the top 9. Their voices blend nicely together
Truee. The fact caibing and hxq are apart of the top 9 rn but them in this team...their voices blend so well in this team. I love them !!!
Not only that, they sing more in tune. That’s why when they sing in unison it sounds so nice
yes !! and they are so synchronized !!
Reason this team look great in vocal harmony jusy because 9 of them have different vocal colour
3:34 - 3:46 (Fuyaning, Caibing, May & Xingqiao) you will notice all of them have different vocal colour and voice tune
Synchronization?
YES!
this team did better than the two other group, they complement each other. the dance break is so satisfying
This team is unexpectedly good. They shine individually.
IKR I DON'T EXPECT THEY'D BE THIS GOOD
Agree!!
The top 9 is good individually but as a group, not really. They tend to outshine everyone. I prefer this one
I was thinking the exact same thing!
Agree
Yesss
OMG YESSSS
I always feel like those groups Hikaru is in outshine each other instead of being captivating
i living for yaning's baro naya, may's voice, kotone's rap, and the dance break !! 💐
Their Choreography is cleanest out of the 3 performance. No one is blocked and they have the best dance break here. You can also distinguish their voices.
3:08 kim suyeon got blocked at the back (left side), you can compared to the right side.
@Oppa Cutie Oh, it seems weird. Kotone stand right at the center from this view. Hurm.
1:23 ririka got blocked by caibing, but it's okay
I think we watched very different videos. There’s a lot of blocking issues within this video that isn’t present in the others & they are filmed at the same angle.
@@TheRynaShow Oh no wonder. May I have the link of other videos? I would love to watch it too :D
This group is the most well balanced & all rounders. No one outshine each other & shine perfectly! If this is the debut team, they will definitely success! Their harmony definitely perfect!
TRUE
This group is so balance that a group should be.
0:59 May's voice 😭💖 Angelic voice
ON REPEAT
i don’t see a lot of people talking about CAI BING’S VOCALS!!! that part surprised me because i have only seen her do rap in all the 3 missions and damn her voice quality is so GOOD. i hope everyone reconsiders and still vote for her in the final line-up 🥲
Caibing vocal so amazing, her visual is a wow
we need more of her vocals 😍 I'm really surprised with her vocals!
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awks
Caibing and Shana my pick from the beginning till the end
May is so underrated, she need more recognition. VOTE FOR MAY
Hiyyih has such a good voice. I especially (and I mean this in no offense to anyone) love it when she sings the higher notes because it doesn't sound like a child with a high pitched voice is singing it. 😅❤️
The last part ya right..cos of that I don't really like GG songs...
In my opinion Yaning's team has the best vocal fits with OOO song: Yaning, Suyeon, Shana, Ririka, Kotone
THIS GROUP HAS THE BEST VOCALS, BEST DANCE, BEST SYNCHRONIZATION AND THE MOST BALANCED!!
Agreed!!!
Bahiyyih so stable with her vocals and again I can't believe this girl is self-taught. Like she can dance as well, a little more direction and she'll be great.
@@greedeu939 I have a genuine question though because I'm not really a stan of Bahiyyih, I'm just a casual audience. To me she has natural talent because a lot of the other contestants were trained by idol companies so we can understand their capabilities, but Bahiyyih can match them with her own teachings. And that's natural talent to me, because I'm sure had she also been idol trained she would do even better. So you can't really ignore that fact so I really don't get why ppl are so hateful.
@@greedeu939 I'm not even a fan of these show.. Just watch this because i saw bahiyyih at twt. ..she's very talented for a self taught like her
@@greedeu939 Yes, but as far as I know she never trained under them. And she refused YG. She's self-taught. Some of these trainees has months if not years of training, she's still talented if you ask me. Like I said I'm no stan, I don't even want to argue about something I'm not interested in. This was just my personal opinion.
@@greedeu939 Thank you but I'm happy with the way I'm, but I do think maybe you should just mind your own business. Bringing negativity to a positive space ain't it. Next time If you don't like a comment or opinion just scroll down? It'll help with the development of your character. Good luck.
This group is so balanced and synchronised.. also the dance break choreo goes with the song style.. love it
Agree dance break is the best among the three more team work here
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This team looks super cohesive and no one is outshining anyone, looks super good!!!
This line up was unexpected. Like Hiyyih was never teamed up with more than half of the members here but i'm happy to see that's she experience to be group with them. They surprisingly suits each other and the vocals of each member are distinct and the dance break was so satisfying!♡
Bahiyyih’s voice is so soothing. Also Cai Bing in the opening was so good! Kotone’s rap is amazing as always and it was really nice to see Yaning as the center with a sweeter image. This team was an unexpected combination but they were really good and worked well together as a team:))
at first I also skeptical with how they blend together? but, in the end this is the best formula
This team is a mix of girl crush members and cute members but their performance as one team is unexpectedly good woah!!! I'm rooting for this team! Team 2 fighting!!!
May is the leader guys its a shame mnet didn't show how they practice well
May did so well and I hope people can join the dots to see that the team was nervous/scared during the interim but performed THIS well on stage, May is only 16 years old and managed to bring the group together to be able to do this well. Her singing in this is just angelic too, I've never heard May sing so beautifully.
@@Lauzangular also shes a subvocalist in cherry bullet, same with jiwon. This proves that cherry bullet has really strong vocals. So support them
i like this team better. the dance of each participant is really balanced, no one is too powerful, and no one is too lack. plus their diverse vocal colors are really amazing
Same..They all have different vocals but it's so well balanced
Let’s be real, out of the three teams, this is the best. Everything is perfect, no one outshining anyone. It doesn’t even look messy or in rush at all. Vocal, rap, dance, everything is nicely performed.
AGREE!
AGREEEE
Agreee!!!!!
AGREE
EXACTLY!!
for me, this group has the best choreography especially the dance break. their vocals suit each other and they are also very stable..why can’t they just debut all of them…
May voice so soft
For me this group slayed the O.O.O mission. So neat and their vocals are on point. Kudos to the team especially May, Shana, and Bahiyyih.
YANING SHOWING HER VERSATILITY!!!
She is insane, she's definitely a center materia.
LET'S DEBUT YANING
ikr she suits cute concepts so well
Even though most of my picks are on Team one, y'all gotta admit Team two did this the best omg. The balance and the synchronization!!!
I agree with the other comments saying that this is a balanced team who worked together in showing each and every one's strengths. Their vocals are great and their dance moves are synchronized. The dance break is really good and clean. Most importantly, they did not over shadow each other. This is definitely what an idol group should be like. Well done girls!
Okay this group has the best choreography for me, especially for the dance break.
yeah know ittt
PLEASE REMEMBER TO LEAVE A LIKE ON BAHIYYIH TEAM VIDEO IS IN, BECAUSE IT REALLY HELPS HER A LOT‼️
For me was to much
YESSSS U HAVE GOOD TASTE
@@bubblyladyg4387 why
Most of these girls are underrated, they deserve more. They are more talented and more stable.
Yes they are so talented and more stable than other groups.
Fr!
this team was most balanced, had the best sounding song vocally together, and is why we should start rethinking which girls we r pushing for that final top 9 bc a bunch of popular trainees put together in a group wont work 😭
.......
Nah most people already have their #1 pick most likely they won't change their #1. And still voting their #1 pick.
If anything i hope mnet make jbj 2.0 with this group.
MAY LETS DEBUT!
Popular opinion: team 2's dance break is satisfying to watch
This team has the most hated trainee by knetz, Hiyyih. Most hated by mnet, Cai Bing. Most hated by fans, Yaning. Together they combined. Perfect team.
Laughing and crying at the same time ToT
Perfect evil plan by mnet :')
Haha nice one XD T.T
Woowww that's right
why knetz hate Hiyyih?
May’s vocal getting better and better!!!!!!!
yess, i love her voice here!!
this group definitely has more charms
This team has so much color. Their voices complimented each other. The dance break is so good. I feel like watching it over and over ❤️ Caibing fighting!
Team 1 = group of best dancers and popular trainees
Team 2 = group composed of a balanced composition of dancers and vocals
team 3 = group with strong vocals
Louder bruhh
This group is so balanced and they're voice sounds really beautiful when they sing together, the dance break, their visual. This show is about how popular they are to debut which is kinda sucks and most of the members in here are so underated yet talented. Even tho their not perfect as individual you can see here them filling up the members can and can't this is why people call them balanced
My girl yaning hope u debut
This group is so balance they all shine together no one left behind and look at that synchronisation AAAAAAAA perfect! Plus the dance break is superb!!!
I agree. I find these group balanced. 👍🏻
let's make them win to get a benefits
@@daiii1706 so will they get benefits as a team too if they get most likes?
@@nurmunirah1876 yes they will
@@daiii1706 i see thanks
Bahi's voice is so stable and clean it sounds so refreshing idk why people are being blind about that. Bitter..
Vote bahhiyih
I KNOW RIGHT AND SHE IS NOT PROBLEMATIC DUHHH PEOPLE ARE BEING BLIND ABOUT HER EXISTENCE REALLY PISSED ME TBH
I hate how this show is mostly based on the girl’s popularity not their potential let’s help this team to win with the most likes , share this fancam and like it please !💕✨
but planet pass based someone skill like soyeon, kotone, ikema ruan.
Same, cheering for this team!
So it's a mission to collect likes and converted to their vote?
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@@daviddiesviantara4277 yes
masters could have gave much better input, the fact that this group still managed to put on such a good performance despite being teared down deserves the upmost respect.
This team is most balanced.
Cant take my eyes of Yaning, she is so charismatic.🥺👏🏻
Vote Yaning
Hl
I prefer their breakdance than the other groups. Also their vocals is very stable and very fit for the song. And the rap well delivered.
Edit: Also the harmony in the end is so perfect. It made them very diff. from the other groupsm
Same here
i agreeee!!!
same they are the best
Bahiyyih’s part is so elegant. I can clearly tell which is her part, since she got an uncommon yet pretty voiceee
She’s so good💕💕 bahiyyih to debut💕
This group definitely got my attention the most. They’re more in-sync and well-balanced than the other two teams. It was very fun to watch them and I couldn’t catch any obvious errors. They look very much like a group ready to debut together. I think it makes sense, since they’re more in the middle, and not part of the top 9 where everyone seems to be competing against each other instead of bringing out the best in each other. Sadly, I don’t really think that most of these girls will debut in the top 9, BUT I know they’ve definitely gotten a bunch of fans thru Girls Planet and will have a lot of supporters once they debut somewhere else.