I've read this and more than a dozen other histories of the rise of fascism & WWI. This remans a basic text, even after 70 years of research has added much and changed some of Shirer's observations, however the one book that has changed more of my preconceptions and added more to my understanding, was William Shirer's other book, "Berlin Diary : the journal of a foreign correspondent, 1934-1941." The reason it seem so important to me is that all the other books have the advantage of hindsight. "Berlin Diary." is written in real time from Shirer's reporting in Berlin as events unfolded when the world still hoped that things would not go pear shaped. The present tense take away our certainty; it forced me to see the challenges the players were facing. There were also many heroic failures swept into historical anonymity, while the villains are known to everyone....jt
I found that book on a vessel while I was at sea for 4 months. Loved it, and will not forget it. It encapsulated what I try to do when listening to history which is to try to imagine the personal conflicts. I listened to this audiobook there for 3 months, each night before falling asleep..
@@michaelfraser5723 Yes, it is always there to some extent, but the but the spirit of racist evil rises and falls. This evil is now on the rise among America's Far Right fools.
Considering modern scholastic works on WW2 (Particularly Eastern Front) have had crucial access to Soviet files which have enlightened scholars before which could only be surmised.
@user-wj6dt5bq3wit’s still useful as a first hand account of the events I would think. Idk im not using it to write a dissertation on the war from the Soviets pov, I just wanted something ww2 related to listen to at work lol.
@@Notimportant3737 like anything it has its biases, they are more apparent earlier in the book when the author claims things like the "Luther to Hitler" myth. basically saying Germans were primed or geared up for this by the feudal system of the middle ages and Martin Luther and other people like American are immune to that level of propaganda.
I read this great work in 2010 and have almost completed my 2nd reading. It is a magnificent offering on the subject. Many things have stood out during this second time around that I failed to comprehend in the initial read., primarily the many similarities between the average German in either embracing or willfully turning of the head at the mounting atrocities and contemporary America.
Or even justifying them. I was struck by one story I read (not sure if it was in this work) where an SS man snatches up a little kid, holds them up and says "You must die so that Germany may live!" It's impossible for me to imagine how anyone could get to the point of saying or doing this. Yet it happened. There's a lot of commentary in the U.S. which comes nauseatingly close to these kinds of sentiments. And it seems to be getting worse. They are even banning books and libraries now.
Read the polls on how many Republicans do not believe Donald Trump is guilty of any crime or that he has done anything wrong. Then see the percentage who think a pathological liar is the source of all wisdom & truth - Trump won the 2020 election because he says so. It's terrifying.
i read it as a teenager in my high school years for a history class work back in the 93...I've keep reading it ever since...had the original book with the black cover.
00:00:02 1. Chapter 23 - Barbarossa: The Turn Of Russia 00:20:54 2. Molotov In Berlin 01:26:39 3. The World Will Hold Its Breath! 01:30:40 4. Balkan Prelude 01:53:41 5. The Planning Of The Terror 02:06:57 6. The Flight Of Rudolf Hess 02:19:54 7. The Plight Of The Kremlin 03:00:37 8. Chapter 24 - A Turn Of The Tide 03:18:51 9. The Great Drive On Moscow 03:54:03 10. Chapter 25 - The Turn Of The United States 04:16:40 11. Avoid Incidents With The U.S.A.! 04:30:16 12. Japan Plays Its Own Game 04:47:27 13. On The Eve Of Pearl Harbor 04:57:23 14. Hitler Declares War 05:12:49 15. Hitler In The Reichstag: December 11 05:26:15 16. Chapter 26 - The Great Turning Point: 1942 Stalingrad And El Alamein - The Conspirators Come Back To Life 06:17:48 17. The First Blow: El Alamein And The Anglo-American Landings 06:36:39 18. Disaster At Stalingrad 07:02:35 19. Book 5 - Chapter 27 - Beginning Of The End - The New Order 07:18:29 20. The Nazi Plunder Of Europe 07:29:45 21. Slave Labor In The New Order 07:45:23 22. The Prisoners Of War 07:59:08 23. Nazi Terror In The Conquered Lands 08:18:57 24. The Final Solution 08:29:24 25. The Extermination Camps
Yes. The American fascists have the greatest propaganda machine in world history to spread their hate and lies. Something has to be done if it’s not too late
@@jackshea6937 If you don't understand causation, you can't analyse the problem. Hence, failing to mention capitalism in a history of the 20th Century cannot be "objective." Recursive systems, which cannot look outside of themselves, always fail.
Carroll accomplished what he set out to to; if you want interpretations, elaborations, implications, fine, good on yah, but comrades, not every worthwhile book can scale the heights of meeting your critical standards, (not to mention the Gödel problem). Meanwhile the world awaits your magnum opus
I really want to buy the audiobook of this excellent book. The only thing I found was this audiobook on MP3,which by mistake I bought 😢 Does anybody know where I could own a physical audiobook which I could buy?
In 4 months of war the Germans destroyed over 25,000 Soviet tanks and yet they kept coming. The Germans started operation Barbarossa with about 2,500 tanks, knowing the Soviets had plenty of T-34's and Kvs which the Germans could not penetrate and the quantity of them let's you know that Soviet Russia was more ready for war than any country in the world
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Tbh I've always wondered why Rudolf Hess was punished so heavily with a life sentence after the war at the Nuremberg trials. Considering the much lighter sentences handed out to Generals & other political entities who participated throughout the war.
Germ never developed 4WD vehicles. Regular soldiers had to walk everywhere like Napoleon's Armee. They were never mechanized and had to use horses, over 600,000 to supply the soldiers with food and pull artillery, etc.
80% of the German war was Vs Russia in terms of manpower, equipment. This is something lost in modern day history in the west. Not difficult for anyone who looks it up, but certainly not taught. Here it's all Battle of Britain, U-boats and then Normandy... And something happened at starlingrad where some Germans got cold or something. I think there's a reason this event is etched into history channels as well as modern day games that goes beyond the stories of folk that are all but gone
@@mdkell4261 i found that an interesting part of the conflict, well before pearl harbor took place, that German infantry across the front line were coming across American rain packs and other equipment (Ie lend lease) including trucks, planes and tanks. Also doesn't take a genius to figure out the yak3 looks awfully much like p51. Reading an American pilots memories (I forget which book) he described going over in the early months after Barbarossa, as part of the lend lease agreement, to help teach Russians how to fly the supplied aircraft & weapons systems. He claimed to be up with the Russians when they flew against Germans, but himself then always backed off his aircraft, despite "seeing the faces of the Germans" and wanting to get stuck in. He claimed he couldn't, because to do so at that time, was in his words "illegal, as we were not yet officially, at war." I also found it interesting that were expecting to become involved at some point, despite overwhelming majority of Americans being against the war, with a president who promised them no intervention. Perhaps they just saw it boiling over, or perhaps knew something most others didn't, but I don't think it's a big secret America was lend leasing Russia, but previously also helped, view big business anyway, to get Germany's manufacturing from bankruptcy to booming in a few short years
Given the risk, or near-inevitability, of America becoming embroiled in any fighting in the open Atlantic, and the consequent danger of them entering the war, and keeping in mind America's historical ties to their only true "motherland" -- and most of all not forgetting that America fought on the side of the Allies in WWI and thus was inclined to view Germany as its enemy in what was arguably a rematch of that war -- Germany would have been wise to take far more elaborate and thorough measures to ensure American neutrality. But they were not frightened enough to do such things, seemingly.
It is astonishing ( but not surprising) that such a noted journalist as Shirer does not appear to know the difference between "England" and Great Britain. I lost count of the number of times he referred to Britain as " England" or British as " English". But then again he is an Amurikan!
I believe holder flipped because he had arranged to only sacrifice 2nd panzer for a Kiev push and guderian committed his entire force after convincing Hitler; guderian totally misunderstood halders aims,and what he'd accomplished for continued Moscow push.
Hitler lost this war for Germany plain and simple no question ❓ about it his best officer mein stein could have won it for him many times over but the furhers stubbornness and incompetence wouldn't let it happen no matter what he rather sacrifice his best elite fighting force in Stalingrad than retreat to regroup and fight again which cost him everything
@@alexhayden2303 these are the 4 main reasons why first the battle of the Atlantic 2nd was the battle of Britain crushed the Germany's control of the sky's 3 Rd the winter of 1941 then most devastating for his best force the central army grinded up in Stalingrad after that they could no longer attack on large enough capacity to turn it around and we're on the defensive from there out specially after the Kursk tank disaster it was game over
The only thing you said that makes any sense is 'plain and simple'. The English never quit then the Russians never quit. The Chinese never quit. These are my 3 reasons why German could never win. A nation that forces its satellites, who have to fight, against people who will never give up, is doomed. NATO should take note or else.....well....we all could lose, forever.
@@bruceb2408 yup that's why the former NATO commander Richard Sheriff said live last week that nato is not ready for Russia and China look what happened to Nazi Germany and Napoleon with Russia it can easily happen again only this time it's much much worse because of hypersonic offense and defense he said has changed the game forever and we are far behind in that ability and the second technical problem is Russia has 2000 tactical nukes ready to go NATO only has 250 at best and Russian air defense systems are another major problem we have to destroy before anything significant from nato can happen unfortunately he said because it's 2022 now the Russians will see us coming way before this time to
Grover Gardner is a Legend. His voice, tone, and cadence are perfect for the material. That said if Mark recorded himself reading this, while also filling in more research that we’ve gained in the 60+ years since this publication, I’d listen through the whole thing again.
These are the 4 catastrophic main battles why Germany lost the war first the battle of the Atlantic 2nd was the battle of Britain crushed the Germany's control of the sky's 3 Rd the winter of 1941 then most devastating for his best force the central army grinded up in Stalingrad after that they could no longer attack on large enough capacity to turn it around and we're on the defensive from there out specially after the Kursk tank disaster it was game over
The Soviet Union should have been crushed. Communism should have been wiped from the earth forever. Today our world is run by Marxist globalist commies. They are destroying the west currently via economic stagnation and via mass third world immigration to the first world. The Allies never should have helped the butcher Stalin. They never should have aligned with such a vicious violent evil regime.
Oh man i have this book i have never finished it tho and im always like well im not gonna listen to it cause i wanna read it. This a good ass book (well waht ive read).
Hitler, before the Polish war started, offered mediation on at least 6 different occasions. He offered plebiscites in the Polish corridor. The Poles flatly refused because of the British guarantee.
And other things. Like Hitler micro managing the war, despite being really terrible at it and making mistake after mistake. Like not allowing Paulus to retreat at Stalingrad. Or allowing Rommel to fight in North Africa the way he wanted to.
This book pretends that the cause of Barbarossa's failure was Hitler's decision to topple and occupy Yugoslavia, but ignores that the Yugoslavian campaign cost the Wehrmacht 12 days and 151 killed. In reality, the obstruction that fatally delayed Barbarossa was Italy's failed attempt to conquer Greece at the end of 1940. The Italian disaster in North Africa was bad enough, necessitating the Wehrmacht’s deployment of significant motorized infantry, panzer and air forces that would have made a difference in the campaign against the USSR, to Libya instead. However, when il Duce commenced his ill-fated, unrealistic attempt to subjugate the Greeks, he invited the British into the Balkans to threaten not only German grip on the continent, but more immediately, the Romanian oil fields. These were vital to Hitler's war effort and he had no choice but to ensure they were secure before embarking on Barbarossa. Had Mussolini not blundered into a losing conflict with Greece, Barbarossa would have launched a month (conservatively) earlier. However, had Hitler had the presence of thought to consider the North African conflict differently, and sent a few more divisions to Rommel, he could have conquered Egypt, the Suez Canal and the Middle East. Then he would have had access to all the oil he could ever have needed. Then, even if there had been a failure of Barbarossa in 1941, the 1942 campaign would not have died out with the largest German army group in the east split into an army stranded in the Caucasus at the very end of their supply lines, with nothing to, ultimately, show for it, and another army bleeding itself white in Stalingrad as the Soviets prepared to encircle it. But that is neither here, nor there :D
This is a TERRIBLE recording. It's filled with the computer sounds of the PC it was recorded on. Great book. Recommend you find another recording of it.
@@unclecarmine6239 Stupid? Lol. Let’s not get carried away. Communists and socialists are virtually the same thing: dirty, atheist revolutionaries. How am I stupid for understanding that? You know something I don’t?
Nasa...reich...... cia.....reich..general gehlen was the cia in 47, 48 and 49..... aerospace and information.... reich. What if those bad movies about nazis on the moon are mocumentaries...like Charlie sheen...I believe there are breakaway civilizations...and the reich could be one
The officers involved in the attempted murder of Hitler...were all traitors to there own men and to Germany...only trying wen they new the war was lost....and not before...in this big way ...
This book is soooooo overrated. Think about his constant, unrelenting focus on what is essentially the palace intrigue. Shrirer doesnt pay off. He doesn't explain shit. Read Timothy Snyder if you want to learn something other than the names of bit & forgotten players!
I really appreciate it doesn’t have ads. Thank you.
I've read this and more than a dozen other histories of the rise of fascism & WWI. This remans a basic text, even after 70 years of research has added much and changed some of Shirer's observations, however the one book that has changed more of my preconceptions and added more to my understanding, was William Shirer's other book, "Berlin Diary : the journal of a foreign correspondent, 1934-1941." The reason it seem so important to me is that all the other books have the advantage of hindsight. "Berlin Diary." is written in real time from Shirer's reporting in Berlin as events unfolded when the world still hoped that things would not go pear shaped. The present tense take away our certainty; it forced me to see the challenges the players were facing. There were also many heroic failures swept into historical anonymity, while the villains are known to everyone....jt
I found that book on a vessel while I was at sea for 4 months. Loved it, and will not forget it. It encapsulated what I try to do when listening to history which is to try to imagine the personal conflicts. I listened to this audiobook there for 3 months, each night before falling asleep..
Rise ? It was always there, still is.
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@@michaelfraser5723 Yes, it is always there to some extent, but the but the spirit of racist evil rises and falls. This evil is now on the rise among America's Far Right fools.
But he’s a wish washy liberal and you claim he’s neutral, explain please?
What a monumental work this book was. And is. Not perfect, not the last word, but indispensable.
Hvvv
Considering modern scholastic works on WW2 (Particularly Eastern Front) have had crucial access to Soviet files which have enlightened scholars before which could only be surmised.
yes
@user-wj6dt5bq3wit’s still useful as a first hand account of the events I would think. Idk im not using it to write a dissertation on the war from the Soviets pov, I just wanted something ww2 related to listen to at work lol.
@@Notimportant3737 like anything it has its biases, they are more apparent earlier in the book when the author claims things like the "Luther to Hitler" myth. basically saying Germans were primed or geared up for this by the feudal system of the middle ages and Martin Luther and other people like American are immune to that level of propaganda.
I read this great work in 2010 and have almost completed my 2nd reading. It is a magnificent offering on the subject. Many things have stood out during this second time around that I failed to comprehend in the initial read., primarily the many similarities between the average German in either embracing or willfully turning of the head at the mounting atrocities and contemporary America.
Or even justifying them. I was struck by one story I read (not sure if it was in this work) where an SS man snatches up a little kid, holds them up and says "You must die so that Germany may live!" It's impossible for me to imagine how anyone could get to the point of saying or doing this. Yet it happened. There's a lot of commentary in the U.S. which comes nauseatingly close to these kinds of sentiments. And it seems to be getting worse. They are even banning books and libraries now.
Read the polls on how many Republicans do not believe Donald Trump is guilty of any crime or that he has done anything wrong. Then see the percentage who think a pathological liar is the source of all wisdom & truth - Trump won the 2020 election because he says so. It's terrifying.
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the speaker has an excellent voice, enjoyed listening to him
i read it as a teenager in my high school years for a history class work back in the 93...I've keep reading it ever since...had the original book with the black cover.
00:00:02 1. Chapter 23 - Barbarossa: The Turn Of Russia
00:20:54 2. Molotov In Berlin
01:26:39 3. The World Will Hold Its Breath!
01:30:40 4. Balkan Prelude
01:53:41 5. The Planning Of The Terror
02:06:57 6. The Flight Of Rudolf Hess
02:19:54 7. The Plight Of The Kremlin
03:00:37 8. Chapter 24 - A Turn Of The Tide
03:18:51 9. The Great Drive On Moscow
03:54:03 10. Chapter 25 - The Turn Of The United States
04:16:40 11. Avoid Incidents With The U.S.A.!
04:30:16 12. Japan Plays Its Own Game
04:47:27 13. On The Eve Of Pearl Harbor
04:57:23 14. Hitler Declares War
05:12:49 15. Hitler In The Reichstag: December 11
05:26:15 16. Chapter 26 - The Great Turning Point: 1942 Stalingrad And El Alamein - The Conspirators Come Back To Life
06:17:48 17. The First Blow: El Alamein And The Anglo-American Landings
06:36:39 18. Disaster At Stalingrad
07:02:35 19. Book 5 - Chapter 27 - Beginning Of The End - The New Order
07:18:29 20. The Nazi Plunder Of Europe
07:29:45 21. Slave Labor In The New Order
07:45:23 22. The Prisoners Of War
07:59:08 23. Nazi Terror In The Conquered Lands
08:18:57 24. The Final Solution
08:29:24 25. The Extermination Camps
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To put it all into context, including Shiŕer's background, read the book. This reading begins at chapter 23.
Nice listenable readìng.
There is audio of the whole book on YT. At least there was.
@@Salenceable It keeps being removed!!!!
@@bronwynevans150 I got lucky, then. But this is one of those books that are worth buying.
@@Salenceable Definitely agree with you
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This is such a great book along with being very very well read
Best book written about the 3rd Reich.
I read it twice. It is an excellent book. Well done!
Incredibly important work, sociologically speaking. Reveals a lot of what is happening in the US right now.
I find it rather funny that both sides say this
@@baseballworldwide9439 Yup but if you read the book, you’ll see only one side is actually using the tactics used for the Reich to come to power.
Yes. The American fascists have the greatest propaganda machine in world history to spread their hate and lies.
Something has to be done if it’s not too late
😂
For the Italian role on the Russian Front, read "Mussolini's War in the East 1941-1943".
"Why are we in this bunker? If England has been defeated, then whose are these bombs" - Molotov..
😂🤣😂..
That is a all time comeback.
Do you have the other chapters available in audiobook?
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If you are serious about getting an objective grip on modern history, House of War, by James Carroll is also a must-read.
Nein
Does Carroll mention capitalism at all?
@@LTrotsky21stCentury Better than that - just the facts everyone should know.
@@jackshea6937 If you don't understand causation, you can't analyse the problem. Hence, failing to mention capitalism in a history of the 20th Century cannot be "objective." Recursive systems, which cannot look outside of themselves, always fail.
Carroll accomplished what he set out to to; if you want interpretations, elaborations, implications, fine, good on yah, but comrades, not every worthwhile book can scale the heights of meeting your critical standards, (not to mention the Gödel problem). Meanwhile the world awaits your magnum opus
I really want to buy the audiobook of this excellent book.
The only thing I found was this audiobook on MP3,which by mistake I bought 😢
Does anybody know where I could own a physical audiobook which I could buy?
In 4 months of war the Germans destroyed over 25,000 Soviet tanks and yet they kept coming. The Germans started operation Barbarossa with about 2,500 tanks, knowing the Soviets had plenty of T-34's and Kvs which the Germans could not penetrate and the quantity of them let's you know that Soviet Russia was more ready for war than any country in the world
Unrelated audio interrupts at 7:47:03 and continues until 7:48:51. Better sound editing is needed to prevent a good reading from an important historical work from being spoiled.
Are you kidding me? 😂
It's free, mate, don't complain.
Where is entire series available at again? Keeps getting deleted.
It is there it's just difficult to find. Put in The Rise and fall of the third Reich. Read by Grover Gardner.
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Thanks
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Great presentation
Lol. “You’ve got mail!” At 7:20
Tbh I've always wondered why Rudolf Hess was punished so heavily with a life sentence after the war at the Nuremberg trials. Considering the much lighter sentences handed out to Generals & other political entities who participated throughout the war.
''I've wondered the same. Maybe Britain was embarrassed he got so far undetected. It's an interesting question
Strange how this book has been up for so long when YT deletes some entire channels with fantastic books…?
Just yesterday this entire book was available for free audio, now it’s gone.
What are they saying in the background?
I have this book, in paperback. That one on the thumbnail, I want it
Germ never developed 4WD vehicles. Regular soldiers had to walk everywhere like Napoleon's Armee. They were never mechanized and had to use horses, over 600,000 to supply the soldiers with food and pull artillery, etc.
The German army survived because Model turned defense over to Erhard Raus.
Where's is his prewar book, when he lived there and told of the early years, it was great!!!
Germany at top strength had around 205 divisions.
America had only about 50 divisions in Europe at the end of the war.
80% of the German war was Vs Russia in terms of manpower, equipment. This is something lost in modern day history in the west. Not difficult for anyone who looks it up, but certainly not taught. Here it's all Battle of Britain, U-boats and then Normandy... And something happened at starlingrad where some Germans got cold or something. I think there's a reason this event is etched into history channels as well as modern day games that goes beyond the stories of folk that are all but gone
Yeah 205 divisions whose artillery was drawn by horses.
The US armys' divisions were fully mobilized.
@@CameTo a large percentage of the Russians were eating American food
@@mdkell4261 i found that an interesting part of the conflict, well before pearl harbor took place, that German infantry across the front line were coming across American rain packs and other equipment (Ie lend lease) including trucks, planes and tanks. Also doesn't take a genius to figure out the yak3 looks awfully much like p51. Reading an American pilots memories (I forget which book) he described going over in the early months after Barbarossa, as part of the lend lease agreement, to help teach Russians how to fly the supplied aircraft & weapons systems. He claimed to be up with the Russians when they flew against Germans, but himself then always backed off his aircraft, despite "seeing the faces of the Germans" and wanting to get stuck in. He claimed he couldn't, because to do so at that time, was in his words "illegal, as we were not yet officially, at war."
I also found it interesting that were expecting to become involved at some point, despite overwhelming majority of Americans being against the war, with a president who promised them no intervention. Perhaps they just saw it boiling over, or perhaps knew something most others didn't, but I don't think it's a big secret America was lend leasing Russia, but previously also helped, view big business anyway, to get Germany's manufacturing from bankruptcy to booming in a few short years
7:47:47
Who he in the background ?
Gobbels?
This had to have been the book that the OSM was holding out side the church of the white house
They should re-record this without pc noises or a tv show on.
Just awesome. thank you
You must be A sadomasochistic anti semite.
The russian winter ended the war for germany.
It Was Roosevelt's Lend Lease Act
Very true...
Took 2 winters, and the mass of Russian population.
No. The lack of oil ended it.
At 7.48 am I the only one who hears background noise?
A surprise to me was that Hitler seemed very intellectual in his private conversations.
why a surprise????
@@unclecarmine6239 Because I said it was a surprise.
@@TheMickeymental boo hoo
@@unclecarmine6239 Typical childlike response from you.
Outsmarted gutless government bureaucrats and gutless ''intellectuals''...hmmmnn sounds like today's gutless global elites.
Why have a section left in with a loud overdub of something other than the book. Very sloppy.
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Very good
Given the risk, or near-inevitability, of America becoming embroiled in any fighting in the open Atlantic, and the consequent danger of them entering the war, and keeping in mind America's historical ties to their only true "motherland" -- and most of all not forgetting that America fought on the side of the Allies in WWI and thus was inclined to view Germany as its enemy in what was arguably a rematch of that war -- Germany would have been wise to take far more elaborate and thorough measures to ensure American neutrality.
But they were not frightened enough to do such things, seemingly.
Amazingly based on the struggles of Nigel farage and his different named parties.
It is astonishing ( but not surprising) that such a noted journalist as Shirer does not appear to know the difference between "England" and Great Britain. I lost count of the number of times he referred to Britain as " England" or British as " English". But then again he is an Amurikan!
Who cares?
@@seanoconghaile9546 as a Scot, I do. What a smashing contribution you made there.
@@JohnS1704 aye I see, 1709. I'm happy to be neither. Most Scots I know would be too.
@@seanoconghaile9546 Most Scots are not me !
@@JohnS1704 who cares?
I believe holder flipped because he had arranged to only sacrifice 2nd panzer for a Kiev push and guderian committed his entire force after convincing Hitler; guderian totally misunderstood halders aims,and what he'd accomplished for continued Moscow push.
Does he read the entire book?
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Hitler lost this war for Germany plain and simple no question ❓ about it his best officer mein stein could have won it for him many times over but the furhers stubbornness and incompetence wouldn't let it happen no matter what he rather sacrifice his best elite fighting force in Stalingrad than retreat to regroup and fight again which cost him everything
Halder (?) didn't help with Hitler's strategic plans.
@@alexhayden2303 these are the 4 main reasons why first the battle of the Atlantic 2nd was the battle of Britain crushed the Germany's control of the sky's 3 Rd the winter of 1941 then most devastating for his best force the central army grinded up in Stalingrad after that they could no longer attack on large enough capacity to turn it around and we're on the defensive from there out specially after the Kursk tank disaster it was game over
The only thing you said that makes any sense is 'plain and simple'. The English never quit then the Russians never quit. The Chinese never quit. These are my 3 reasons why German could never win. A nation that forces its satellites, who have to fight, against people who will never give up, is doomed. NATO should take note or else.....well....we all could lose, forever.
@@bruceb2408 yup that's why the former NATO commander Richard Sheriff said live last week that nato is not ready for Russia and China look what happened to Nazi Germany and Napoleon with Russia it can easily happen again only this time it's much much worse because of hypersonic offense and defense he said has changed the game forever and we are far behind in that ability and the second technical problem is Russia has 2000 tactical nukes ready to go NATO only has 250 at best and Russian air defense systems are another major problem we have to destroy before anything significant from nato can happen unfortunately he said because it's 2022 now the Russians will see us coming way before this time to
@@tktkdiamond So I basically called you an uninformed tool, plain and simple.
1:36:54 postponing Barbarossa by a few weeks isn't the reason why it failed. That's an urban legend.
Stepping foot in Russia at all is the reason they lost.
It did not help
Chapters 1-22?
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If Mark Felton narrated I'd listen.
poor little victim.
He is doing his part editing those excellent videos.
Mark Felton would bring it completely alive.
Grover Gardner is a Legend. His voice, tone, and cadence are perfect for the material.
That said if Mark recorded himself reading this, while also filling in more research that we’ve gained in the 60+ years since this publication, I’d listen through the whole thing again.
If Marty Feldman narrated it would be tolerable
very interesting
Just the one part?
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These are the 4 catastrophic main battles why Germany lost the war first the battle of the Atlantic 2nd was the battle of Britain crushed the Germany's control of the sky's 3 Rd the winter of 1941 then most devastating for his best force the central army grinded up in Stalingrad after that they could no longer attack on large enough capacity to turn it around and we're on the defensive from there out specially after the Kursk tank disaster it was game over
Roosevelt's Lend Lease Act was Reason Germany Lost. So many Expert Historians Over Look Fail to Mention.
Learn to write sentences. Just the basics.
@@StarsManny Sorry I was walking in the pouring rain to work at night when I wrote that
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The Soviet Union should have been crushed. Communism should have been wiped from the earth forever. Today our world is run by Marxist globalist commies. They are destroying the west currently via economic stagnation and via mass third world immigration to the first world.
The Allies never should have helped the butcher Stalin. They never should have aligned with such a vicious violent evil regime.
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Oh man i have this book i have never finished it tho and im always like well im not gonna listen to it cause i wanna read it. This a good ass book (well waht ive read).
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lots of audio errors... sloppy
Get your money back!
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Hitler, before the Polish war started, offered mediation on at least 6 different occasions.
He offered plebiscites in the Polish corridor. The Poles flatly refused because of the British guarantee.
Very well said..
Yeah, Hitler broke every agreement in pursuit of his larger genocidal plan for Poland and the rest of Europe.
What plebiscites? Could you elaborate on that, please.
I recommend, The Icebreaker, Victor Suworov, KGB, Hitler in Stalins Kalkül. If you want to know the truth ?
The first couple of pages are almost as good as Thucydides.
Hitler was ticklish.
IT was the Russian winter that ended Germany s war ...
And other things. Like Hitler micro managing the war, despite being really terrible at it and making mistake after mistake. Like not allowing Paulus to retreat at Stalingrad. Or allowing Rommel to fight in North Africa the way he wanted to.
And the scorched earth policy
Because he really was stupid madman and that explains away almost everything.
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Got a lot to learn....lol ...
This book pretends that the cause of Barbarossa's failure was Hitler's decision to topple and occupy Yugoslavia, but ignores that the Yugoslavian campaign cost the Wehrmacht 12 days and 151 killed. In reality, the obstruction that fatally delayed Barbarossa was Italy's failed attempt to conquer Greece at the end of 1940. The Italian disaster in North Africa was bad enough, necessitating the Wehrmacht’s deployment of significant motorized infantry, panzer and air forces that would have made a difference in the campaign against the USSR, to Libya instead. However, when il Duce commenced his ill-fated, unrealistic attempt to subjugate the Greeks, he invited the British into the Balkans to threaten not only German grip on the continent, but more immediately, the Romanian oil fields. These were vital to Hitler's war effort and he had no choice but to ensure they were secure before embarking on Barbarossa. Had Mussolini not blundered into a losing conflict with Greece, Barbarossa would have launched a month (conservatively) earlier. However, had Hitler had the presence of thought to consider the North African conflict differently, and sent a few more divisions to Rommel, he could have conquered Egypt, the Suez Canal and the Middle East. Then he would have had access to all the oil he could ever have needed. Then, even if there had been a failure of Barbarossa in 1941, the 1942 campaign would not have died out with the largest German army group in the east split into an army stranded in the Caucasus at the very end of their supply lines, with nothing to, ultimately, show for it, and another army bleeding itself white in Stalingrad as the Soviets prepared to encircle it. But that is neither here, nor there :D
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'homicide and harlotry' Hitler a great thing to Nazis '33 to '42 and a vastly greater thing to Nazis '42 to '45. Copy Byron Hitler read Potemkin.
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@@showbuster It's a way that certain listeners leave themselves a timestamp to pick up where they left off 2:50:38....
This is a TERRIBLE recording. It's filled with the computer sounds of the PC it was recorded on.
Great book. Recommend you find another recording of it.
WW2 is to depressing. By destroying Germany we destroyed ourselves. We are now suffering the consequences of allying ourselves with Bolsheviks
that was their plan from day one
@@unclecarmine6239 definitely agree 💯
The Germans were socialists though, so it’s a case of apples or oranges, isn’t it?
@@amjoshuaf you must be joking...nobody is that stupid
@@unclecarmine6239 Stupid? Lol. Let’s not get carried away. Communists and socialists are virtually the same thing: dirty, atheist revolutionaries. How am I stupid for understanding that? You know something I don’t?
Joe biden will soon have us speaking chinese.
I'm sure it would be more understandable than your gibberish.
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You are well-indoctrinated. Try something new: thinking (for yourself) instead of parroting.
You have no worries. Doubt you have ability for second language…or even first
This without doubt is one of the stupidest things I've yet heard from a Trump/MAGA stooge.
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The reich just moved...south America, north America and eastern Europe
don't we wish
Nasa...reich...... cia.....reich..general gehlen was the cia in 47, 48 and 49..... aerospace and information.... reich. What if those bad movies about nazis on the moon are mocumentaries...like Charlie sheen...I believe there are breakaway civilizations...and the reich could be one
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the first golden rule...do not invade russia in the winter.
They didn’t.
Wei shenmo ni bu yao shuo zhongwen? Zhongwen hen you yisi. Mei you wenti.
History written by the victors...and Big Brother
people enjoy being lied to
It was 80 years ago - we've heard the history of it from all perspectives
Isn't this piracy?
Call the cops
Shirer's cynical attitude towards conspirators is despicable. The man positively revels in his bias. Not a commendable trait in a historian.
The officers involved in the attempted murder of Hitler...were all traitors to there own men and to Germany...only trying wen they new the war was lost....and not before...in this big way ...
I may be wrong here, but I thought he was a journalist reporting on what he saw and heard in Germany at the time(???), not a historian.
@@bronwynevans150 "The Rise And Fall Of The Third Reich" purports to be a HISTORY, not a news alert..
he was a journalist writing the 1st draft of hx.
He was a journalist not a historian. Only responsible for 1st draft of work.
This book is soooooo overrated. Think about his constant, unrelenting focus on what is essentially the palace intrigue. Shrirer doesnt pay off. He doesn't explain shit. Read Timothy Snyder if you want to learn something other than the names of bit & forgotten players!
So what , we won as usual.
Did Hitler take Blondie to der buunker? Where did the newlyweds honeymoon?
His dogs were given the poison to test it.
a book of lies
Oh joys!! The GOP evangelical Christian Bible!! Can I get a amen!!??
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