I've always said there should be a system that plays modern retro style games but with 240p output for a CRT. Maybe an Evercade designed with a CRT in mind.
It's a shame seemingly not many retro-inspired titles have native 4:3 ratio settings, as widescreen CRTs are probably rarer and less-popular for fans of these type of games (late 80s/early 90s).
The main reason to play on a crt is the superior motion for 60fps content. 16x less motion blur then modern panels. you can actually achieve lower lag on a high refreshrate vrr display. for example using a 240hz panel with vrr @60fps you are drawing a frame 4 times quicker then a 60hz crt and you avoid the buffering of frames you get with fixed hz vsync, which is a huge lag reduction. even without all that crt's input lag advantage is hugely overstated we are talking 0.5-1ms less processing delay then a good digital monitor. In the past flat panel tv's and hdcrt's for that matter had horrible amounts of processing delay but it's not that common today.
They can simulate a CRT screen, but they haven't figured out how to simulate an HDTV A/V composite setup yet, as far as I can tell. Also, if you think about it, of course Shovel Knight looks good on a CRT. Its screen size intentionally matches the 3DS' resolution, for the most part. There's a reason the top text is crunched on other consoles.
I'm gonna use an abomination of a setup to play my Wii U copy of the game. Plugging the console into the HDMI to RF coaxial converter I have. Which of course then needs to run through a UHF/VHF/FM matching transformer to connect to the 1981 Sears television.
I'm playing it on my ps3 with a Sony trinitron I got for free. It looks better on there for sure, but I feel like 3dsxl had the best looking version of the game by far.
idk i've played shovel knight on my new 3ds xl and it seemed a litte compressed and small BUT the 3d effect, second screen and being able to played it con the couch makes it worth it, also the dpad and buttons feel great
You could also just hook up a Wii U with Wii composite cables to a CRT and play the Wii U version of Shovel Knight. It's 480i, unfortunately, as the Wii U can't do 240p like the Wii can.
I've been wondering this for a while but been too lazy to actually get it back out and set it up. I also was pretty already that the Wii U couldn't do 240p. It would be so cool to see this game properly on my 32" Panasonic SuperFlat CT-32SF35W which has a nice picture through S-video (no component on this one).
Shovel Knight, unfortunately, does not have a fullscreen (4:3) option in its video settings. You can however stretch the image vertically to fill the screen but as you saw in the video it looks a bit off. There are a few games I know of that will do fullscreen accurately, like Steel Assault and Ex Zodiac.
Just use reshade, you can play it on a widescreen monitor and have it look exactly like a crt. There are 100s of shaders and you can combine and edit every parameter. You can even see the subpixels or add the warping effect the glass has. Not latency wise, but visually, the crt emulation has become better than the original just like many consoles emulated are better than the original hardware.
@@Pax_Mayn3 The shaders are great and I enjoy them a lot but they are not the real thing. Even if they magically were indistinguishable (they're not) there's still the knowledge of running on real hardware. It's like listening to music on vinyl or digging up 75 mm projectors to release a new motion picture on film in theaters.
Please help I’m only wanting to display Windows 10 at 640x480 on my Makvision model 3M25 Tri-Sync 25” arcade monitor that can do standard 15kz, medium 24kz and high 31Kz. I mostly just want to play Sega Model 3 games and mame isn’t so important to me. I have an AMD R9 380 GPU with DVI-A analog output with a VGA adapter connecting directly to the Makvision arcade monitors VGA input cable. When I connect and turn on my computer I’m getting a triple image. I can play my Dreamcast with a VGA cord that outputs 640x480 on the monitor without any problem. So is there a way to simply display my Windows 10 PC on my arcade monitor at 640x480 with what I have?
Modern GPUs aren't going to output analog 15khz signals. Even if you try to convert HDMI or Display Port to VGA on a modern GPU it's still going to be 31khz. My PC has a 3070ti and an HD 5450 installed so best of both worlds.
I do a similar thing with an old Jaton Nvidia card that has composite out....Windows looks like crap but the games look pretty decent to my eyes at least
![How to Play Blazing Chrome on a CRT Display [Pixel Perfection]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/inrTLVd-YDQ/mqdefault.jpg)
oh god I can't believe I'm going down this rabbit hole
I am into sleeper pc's and indie retro
this was built for me
I've always said there should be a system that plays modern retro style games but with 240p output for a CRT. Maybe an Evercade designed with a CRT in mind.
I had no idea it would look that clean/crisp on a CRT. Also low key jealous of that room
It's a shame seemingly not many retro-inspired titles have native 4:3 ratio settings, as widescreen CRTs are probably rarer and less-popular for fans of these type of games (late 80s/early 90s).
What monitor is that? The widescreen multiformat PVM. I'm assuming they are impossible to find.
Show other games like Scott Pilgrim and TMNT Shredder's Revenge on a crt too if you have the chance.
Stay tuned! TMNT is definitely in the works.
The main reason to play on a crt is the superior motion for 60fps content. 16x less motion blur then modern panels.
you can actually achieve lower lag on a high refreshrate vrr display.
for example using a 240hz panel with vrr @60fps you are drawing a frame 4 times quicker then a 60hz crt and you avoid the buffering of frames you get with fixed hz vsync, which is a huge lag reduction.
even without all that crt's input lag advantage is hugely overstated we are talking 0.5-1ms less processing delay then a good digital monitor. In the past flat panel tv's and hdcrt's for that matter had horrible amounts of processing delay but it's not that common today.
They can simulate a CRT screen, but they haven't figured out how to simulate an HDTV A/V composite setup yet, as far as I can tell.
Also, if you think about it, of course Shovel Knight looks good on a CRT. Its screen size intentionally matches the 3DS' resolution, for the most part. There's a reason the top text is crunched on other consoles.
Shovel Knight was inspired by ducktales on the NES dure! You have to play it!!
I'm gonna use an abomination of a setup to play my Wii U copy of the game. Plugging the console into the HDMI to RF coaxial converter I have. Which of course then needs to run through a UHF/VHF/FM matching transformer to connect to the 1981 Sears television.
I'd watch videos of games on crt all day. All ff and dragon quest. Octopath traveller.
It's so much work, but the results seem totally worth it
what is the recommended graphic card of choice for this set up?
Any of the graphics cards listed here are recommended. geedorah.com/eiusdemmodi/forum/viewtopic.php?id=295
I ended up going with the HD5450 less steps to install the driver @@pt_samurai474
What model of TV is the very first one in your room on the intro playing metal gear solid.
@@dylanspencer759 NEC XP29 Plus
I'm playing it on my ps3 with a Sony trinitron I got for free. It looks
better on there for sure, but I feel like 3dsxl had the best looking version of the game by far.
idk i've played shovel knight on my new 3ds xl and it seemed a litte compressed and small BUT the 3d effect, second screen and being able to played it con the couch makes it worth it, also the dpad and buttons feel great
You could also just hook up a Wii U with Wii composite cables to a CRT and play the Wii U version of Shovel Knight. It's 480i, unfortunately, as the Wii U can't do 240p like the Wii can.
I've been wondering this for a while but been too lazy to actually get it back out and set it up. I also was pretty already that the Wii U couldn't do 240p. It would be so cool to see this game properly on my 32" Panasonic SuperFlat CT-32SF35W which has a nice picture through S-video (no component on this one).
Is there any way to play it in full screen instead of wide screen?
Shovel Knight, unfortunately, does not have a fullscreen (4:3) option in its video settings. You can however stretch the image vertically to fill the screen but as you saw in the video it looks a bit off. There are a few games I know of that will do fullscreen accurately, like Steel Assault and Ex Zodiac.
@@pt_samurai474 True thanks!
Just use reshade, you can play it on a widescreen monitor and have it look exactly like a crt. There are 100s of shaders and you can combine and edit every parameter. You can even see the subpixels or add the warping effect the glass has. Not latency wise, but visually, the crt emulation has become better than the original just like many consoles emulated are better than the original hardware.
What about pixel perfect emulation on a CRT? E.g. Nintendo 64 etc.
Isn't Shovel Knight 400x224?
So 400x240 on a 4:3 should display with black bars and only slightly squished aspect ratio?
Just use reshade, it's free and you can run retroarch type shaders and change every parameter as needed. No need to go through all this.
@@Pax_Mayn3 The shaders are great and I enjoy them a lot but they are not the real thing. Even if they magically were indistinguishable (they're not) there's still the knowledge of running on real hardware. It's like listening to music on vinyl or digging up 75 mm projectors to release a new motion picture on film in theaters.
Any ultimate graphics card to look for? Or a few that are recommended? I need this lol
Please help I’m only wanting to display Windows 10 at 640x480 on my Makvision model 3M25 Tri-Sync 25” arcade monitor that can do standard 15kz, medium 24kz and high 31Kz.
I mostly just want to play Sega Model 3 games and mame isn’t so important to me. I have an AMD R9 380 GPU with DVI-A analog output with a VGA adapter connecting directly to the Makvision arcade monitors VGA input cable.
When I connect and turn on my computer I’m getting a triple image. I can play my Dreamcast with a VGA cord that outputs 640x480 on the monitor without any problem.
So is there a way to simply display my Windows 10 PC on my arcade monitor at 640x480 with what I have?
You should try Mega Man 9 and 10 next.
on the left @00:17 what SONY BVM model is it?
PVM 20L5
Do you have to buy an older gpu? isn't there any other way?
Modern GPUs aren't going to output analog 15khz signals. Even if you try to convert HDMI or Display Port to VGA on a modern GPU it's still going to be 31khz. My PC has a 3070ti and an HD 5450 installed so best of both worlds.
@@pt_samurai474 Oh, thanks for the explanation I'll do a similar setup then
@@pt_samurai474 What's the latest GPU capable of outputting 15khz?
Amd 380 is the latest with analog out and driver 15hz support
@@kaneda71tubeand Nvidia which one?
How could i connect CRT TV with Nvidia 1650ti HDMI > SCART
How can I get rid of interference on ypbpr?
I do a similar thing with an old Jaton Nvidia card that has composite out....Windows looks like crap but the games look pretty decent to my eyes at least
toshiba Af models has a native 16:9 mode.
Edit:its a letterboxed mode.
Good to know!
I just got a 21 fa 210 is it good ?
Final fantasy pixel remaster next
Can you play Record.of.Lodoss.War.Deedlit.in.Wonder.Labyrinth with your CRT?
Yeah! Its resolution is 640 x 360 so I usually play it on my PC CRT monitor.