8:07 What caused the enemy Lev to suddenly jump ahead? On the Turn order it said you should’ve gone first and you had your TIE DAGGER out so they couldn’t gain bonus TM what happened there?
Hey Bit Dynasty, I’m getting ready to unlock the leviathan and all the play guides are old, pre tie dagger buff. Do you think you could another unlock guide with the buffed tie dagger the next time it rolls around? Do you think you could also speculate on necessary Malgus relic level since he doesn’t have a required level? I’m getting ready to unlock him soon too and I plan to take him up to r7+ but if the event comes back while he’s r5 and I can win earlier than I’m expecting that’ll let me start building it faster. Thanks!
Thx you. I use it since 3 days with good success. I keep dorrito aoe until he has 15 stack but I use all other ship abilities (a difference with your video). I always get ult first. Arround 9/9 win on coin flip loss. I one shit bomber and then focus dorito. Less than 4 mn fight so not too stressful. 1 detail : I did 3 fight having removed mod from DR and lost all of them. Did you have same speed than opponent levi for your test ?
Thank you for doing your best to help us solve this mess. This meta has me tearing my hair out I HATE IT!!! You can do everything right and STILL LOSE in mirrors, and what’s the point of having an “ultimate” ability if you can still lose by timeout after? Not very “ultimate” if you ask me. Profundity and Executor are both designed way better and have ultimates that actually live up the name!!
I've been climbing with this fleet for a week now and I don't think I have lost once. Even if they go first and Reaper dies when he comes in, I still get the win. One thing I noticed was that you weren't using Dagger's AOE when he gets his bonus turn. I always do that on his bonus turns. It heals him and increases his def penetration. I also always eat the bomber with the Mk6. Don't know if makes an difference tho 😆
do you consistently win even if you lose the ult race? do they have good RIs? This seems to be the most reliable but I lose probably 1/4 matches. Disclaimer: I definitely lose the initial coinflip far more often than 50%.
@@snuglife3697 Yes to all of the above. I am (sadly) in a pretty active fleet shard. I fall to the high teens most days. That said, it's still a small sample size and I may have just had some pretty good luck lately.
Hi mate Good Couner Congrats , but i have one other situation: after they blow my hangars and next tunr i reinforced my TIE Reaper /hew blow /and after a few hits they Reinforce Sith Assasin before even i can be in position to blow their Hangars ,after some moves i get mine Mark 6, blow their Dagen and not get Ultimate ,what can i do in this situations :)) or this from your opinion is somthing normal ?
One question I'm trying to figure out: is it actually a coin flip? I've been tracking this and I seem to lose the coin flip the vast majority of the time. Last night, it was six battles in a row. There must be some other factor going into this other than RNG.
That can't be right. I have all 6 dot mods. In mirror matches my opponent levi goes first approximately 70% of the time. At first I thought it maybe just seemed that way, but I've been keeping track and it's consistent. Out of 5 battles I will go first once or twice, every single time
only reason I cant try to use prof, my shard is super super active and the majority wont join a chat. So, you get hit constantly during your PO. So, you'd get locked up trying to climb. This has been a great climbing tool without sacrificing defense
Exactly, the extra chance to pull back the win without compromising your lineup is key. Anything other than the meta defense puts a massive target on your back, even more so when the mafia is involved.
1. Who puts faster first 15 denuffs (15 red 'bad" effects) on opponent - gets option "hangar sabotage" faster. 2.. After this, who has this effect: who gets 50+ debuffs (red "bad" effects on his ally Siths - gets Ultra faster. So what is the principle to win mirror Levi matches - first, cast more red on the enemy to get the hangar sabotage option (with 15 red debuffs on enemies), and then, if the enemy already has this option activated, cast less red on him and get more red on yourself, so that with every 50 red on yourself, you can speed up the approach of the ultra?
@Bitdynasty but who puts first 15 debuffs - gets first a "destroy hangars" option. But after you get it, you get Ultra when your Siths debuffed most (50x times). So, it's better after you get "destroy hangars" to avoid many red debuffs/damage on enemies.
I am in a competitive fleet shard where you need to run 7-10 battles and sadly it’s not consistent. Sometimes you just can’t beat the ult even with the tm boost. I find profundity more reliable which has its own RNG. Just get lucky I guess.
Welcome to the stupidest meta ever, thanks CG for making fleets even more atrocious. And they wonder why ships don't make them any money. It's like TW they've basically abandoned it
I REALLY HATE LEVIATHAN. this is worst ever design of ships in this game. (I do have all maxed with Leviathan team but bomber(marauder) R8. every time the enemy mother ship starts turn and no way i can win. so fucking frustrated.
4 times failed and 5th time finally my mother ship had given the priority. so much waste of time and max stress. this is the moment i want to quit this game every day.
@@arisuaozoraThe ships have relic 8,8,7. The enemy has relic 898. But the thing is that my leviathan cannot go first for more than 5 battles. It seems that the TIE Dagger relic has significance.
@@BadDancer78 its ok if you cant go first, with tie reaper as first reinforcement, it will reset the coinflip. At reinforcement 2 , take out the tank with the instant kill. Hope this work for you.
You make the best fleet videos for the game. Thank you so much!
Glad you like them!
Truth!
I agree!
Excellent information, thank you sir.
Glad it was helpful!
8:07 What caused the enemy Lev to suddenly jump ahead? On the Turn order it said you should’ve gone first and you had your TIE DAGGER out so they couldn’t gain bonus TM what happened there?
They won the coin flip, the turn order is not always real time
Hey Bit Dynasty, I’m getting ready to unlock the leviathan and all the play guides are old, pre tie dagger buff. Do you think you could another unlock guide with the buffed tie dagger the next time it rolls around? Do you think you could also speculate on necessary Malgus relic level since he doesn’t have a required level? I’m getting ready to unlock him soon too and I plan to take him up to r7+ but if the event comes back while he’s r5 and I can win earlier than I’m expecting that’ll let me start building it faster. Thanks!
I would imagine it will be easier with Tie Dagger buff, but sure can test it out!
Thx you. I use it since 3 days with good success. I keep dorrito aoe until he has 15 stack but I use all other ship abilities (a difference with your video). I always get ult first. Arround 9/9 win on coin flip loss. I one shit bomber and then focus dorito. Less than 4 mn fight so not too stressful. 1 detail : I did 3 fight having removed mod from DR and lost all of them. Did you have same speed than opponent levi for your test ?
yes we are all same speed R9 Revan with 6 dot mods
Thank you for doing your best to help us solve this mess. This meta has me tearing my hair out I HATE IT!!! You can do everything right and STILL LOSE in mirrors, and what’s the point of having an “ultimate” ability if you can still lose by timeout after? Not very “ultimate” if you ask me. Profundity and Executor are both designed way better and have ultimates that actually live up the name!!
yeah Levi ultimate is a bit underwhelming compared to Prof and Exec for sure!
Thanks for the idea, I’m going to have a go and see how it pans out for me.
Good luck!
I've been climbing with this fleet for a week now and I don't think I have lost once. Even if they go first and Reaper dies when he comes in, I still get the win. One thing I noticed was that you weren't using Dagger's AOE when he gets his bonus turn. I always do that on his bonus turns. It heals him and increases his def penetration. I also always eat the bomber with the Mk6. Don't know if makes an difference tho 😆
cool!
do you consistently win even if you lose the ult race? do they have good RIs? This seems to be the most reliable but I lose probably 1/4 matches. Disclaimer: I definitely lose the initial coinflip far more often than 50%.
@@snuglife3697 Yes to all of the above. I am (sadly) in a pretty active fleet shard. I fall to the high teens most days.
That said, it's still a small sample size and I may have just had some pretty good luck lately.
Hi mate Good Couner Congrats , but i have one other situation: after they blow my hangars and next tunr i reinforced my TIE Reaper /hew blow /and after a few hits they Reinforce Sith Assasin before even i can be in position to blow their Hangars ,after some moves i get mine Mark 6, blow their Dagen and not get Ultimate ,what can i do in this situations :)) or this from your opinion is somthing normal ?
It's normal, every turn with Levi is a coin flip
One question I'm trying to figure out: is it actually a coin flip? I've been tracking this and I seem to lose the coin flip the vast majority of the time. Last night, it was six battles in a row. There must be some other factor going into this other than RNG.
If both of your Levi speed is exactly the same, it it is just down to a coin flip 🙃
That can't be right. I have all 6 dot mods. In mirror matches my opponent levi goes first approximately 70% of the time. At first I thought it maybe just seemed that way, but I've been keeping track and it's consistent. Out of 5 battles I will go first once or twice, every single time
only reason I cant try to use prof, my shard is super super active and the majority wont join a chat. So, you get hit constantly during your PO. So, you'd get locked up trying to climb. This has been a great climbing tool without sacrificing defense
cool
Exactly, the extra chance to pull back the win without compromising your lineup is key. Anything other than the meta defense puts a massive target on your back, even more so when the mafia is involved.
What are you doing for GAC? My Levi is on D with Mark 6 so no Profundity with Mark 6. Are you keeping Levi and Profundity for Offense?
For me personally, I'm saving Nego to beat Levi and Prof + Ebon Hawk for Exec.
Yes keeping both of them for attack
@@Bitdynasty Better full clear than getting stuck on fleets lol
1. Who puts faster first 15 denuffs (15 red 'bad" effects) on opponent - gets option "hangar sabotage" faster.
2.. After this, who has this effect: who gets 50+ debuffs (red "bad" effects on his ally Siths - gets Ultra faster.
So what is the principle to win mirror Levi matches - first, cast more red on the enemy to get the hangar sabotage option (with 15 red debuffs on enemies), and then, if the enemy already has this option activated, cast less red on him and get more red on yourself, so that with every 50 red on yourself, you can speed up the approach of the ultra?
I always try to avoid putting debuffs out so they don't destroy hangars, and also they maybe they don't hit the 50 debuffs also...
@Bitdynasty but who puts first 15 debuffs - gets first a "destroy hangars" option. But after you get it, you get Ultra when your Siths debuffed most (50x times). So, it's better after you get "destroy hangars" to avoid many red debuffs/damage on enemies.
Another great one
Thanks again!
Why are you trying to avoid putting debuffs on them? So you don't get to 50 and reduce their ult cooldown?
Yeah, but mostly so they can't destroy my Hangars. They need to land 15 debuffs.
@Bitdynasty yeah that's them debuffing you. You mention not wanting to debuff them.
I am in a competitive fleet shard where you need to run 7-10 battles and sadly it’s not consistent. Sometimes you just can’t beat the ult even with the tm boost. I find profundity more reliable which has its own RNG. Just get lucky I guess.
oh yeah Profundity is definitely the most reliable I think
Is the coin flip really 50%? im 2/25 the past 5 days. Same speed as everyone else. I hate this new meta
it should be 50% yes, but obviously it will vary from time to time
Thank you!
welcome!
Welcome to the stupidest meta ever, thanks CG for making fleets even more atrocious. And they wonder why ships don't make them any money. It's like TW they've basically abandoned it
yeah this really messed up the fleet meta
Never got ahead untill i won the opening coin flip in these mirror matches reaper or no reaper (Just 2 battles losing opening coin flip with reaper)
Yeah it's not a guarantee, still down to RNG in the end
Good and we need to fefine it.. X and S and Ah
you bet!
I don't believe it's a coin flip at the first move. I think odds are in favor of the defender.
Should not be, it's 50/50
@Bitdynasty yeah should. I'm tracking it in excel for months because... Lol. It's NOT 50-50. :)
The problem is "coin flip" the fact that they have turned ships into a luck fest is just shameful
Yes it's the ultimate slot machine now 🙂
Not working at all if i loose the start i they always get to ultimate first 4 for 4 Losses, but thanks for trying
sorry to hear it didn't work for you at all
@@Bitdynasty Got 1 to work today!
I must have bad luck because I’m 0-4 with this. Came here to see if I was doing something wrong. But no. I’m playing exactly as you are.
do you always lose the ULT coin flip?
@@Bitdynasty On all 4 games oppponents capital ship goes first every time on every turn including ultimate. I don’t get it.
@@tonyx3722 check the mods on your pilots!
@@shpreenten mods on my pilots are fine except tie reaper. Which doesn’t matter.
Haha. Literally the only ship i dont have at 7*. Of course it does.
Don't need it at 7 stars, 5 stars most likely is enough for the reinforcement ability to be maxed out
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I REALLY HATE LEVIATHAN. this is worst ever design of ships in this game.
(I do have all maxed with Leviathan team but bomber(marauder) R8.
every time the enemy mother ship starts turn and no way i can win. so fucking frustrated.
4 times failed and 5th time finally my mother ship had given the priority.
so much waste of time and max stress.
this is the moment i want to quit this game every day.
Leviathan is not bad in itself, it's the Tie Dagger changed that messed it up really!
I am Lose, Lose, Lose in mirror Battle 😢
Lose coinflip? Or ships not powerful enough?
@@arisuaozoraThe ships have relic 8,8,7. The enemy has relic 898. But the thing is that my leviathan cannot go first for more than 5 battles. It seems that the TIE Dagger relic has significance.
@@BadDancer78 its ok if you cant go first, with tie reaper as first reinforcement, it will reset the coinflip. At reinforcement 2 , take out the tank with the instant kill. Hope this work for you.
Even with Tie Reaper as shown?
@ as long as its 1st reinforcement after enemy leviathan use sabotage hangar .
Try using tie reaper starting instead of dagger
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and that would be the complete opposite of what Bit explained as its main advantage.
yeah been trying this also, but haven't had much success with it, as they didn't kill Reaper fast enough :)
Lately I always go second in my daily fleet arena climb, so I defo give this a try, since my Profundity is still only 6 stars lol
good luck!