That's probably true if you take as a premise that every pollster is a liberal, in the sense that every person who understands and knows how to use data and science is a liberal (not exactly true, but, honestly, close to true). And that is the reason why in UA-cam videos like this one, the most popular comments are from dumb people who don't understand anything complex, and hence assume that if predictions are off, it must be on purpose. I almost wonder if when the weather forecast says rain and it doesn't rain, you assume too that is because meteorologists have a pro-rain bias.
No kidding, some MSM trying to say her bad poll was within the margin of error?! Like fella, if you are allowing a poll that much margin, why do we even do them?
No, because even the most right-leaning polls underestimate him. The simpler explanation that fits the facts is Trump has a larger number of supporters who would never answer the phone or respond to a poll than your typical Dem, so all polls suffer from what is called “sample bias” which is not a political leaning bias, but is a reflection of your stupidity in not being able to statistically sample the populations appropriately. They needed to account for and correct for this bias, but it’s more work so these lazy pollsters never did that and just continued with their inaccurate methods.
@@raulandreshernandezdelaros6203 That is true about us Trump supporters not responding to pollsters. It also includes most of independents. As a black male conservative, i would never answer a poll, nor listen to the media, because its all ultra-partisan. I can find better news on the internet, than watching MSM. There are two kinds of news reporting: (1) Leaving out certain facts; (2) miscontruing the facts. I prefer number 2, because i can read between the lines and understand what they are trying to do, plus, i have my own brain, and can think for myself, but number 1, is just damn ugly
The Iowa poll was an outlier, not a trend any pollster worth his salt could see that. The fact that media latched on to that as a sign of some sort of Kamala sweep is so absurb. If a New York poll a week before the election had Trump over Kamala by 3 points, would they have pushed that? Of course not. It would be seen as just what it is, an outlier and nothing more.
Its like the weatherman. If you get it right, they praise their skill and if they get it wrong, it is the candidate. Apparently, Luntz was not asked to poll whether Kamala will win and how, but rather who will win the election.
I knew the polls were wrong. I work in corporate America. It is a big company, and I couldn't find many that supported her. A lot was not talking so, I knew Trump had a lot of silent support.
genuinely curious why Trump supporters, aside from those attending Maga rallies, are usually silent? is there a degree of shame to their allegiance? Is it fear people will see them as racists, bigots etc.? Are they worried people will think they as supporters share the same moral/ethical standards as trump? I don’t understand the mindset and would be interested to hear from a silent trump supporter.
@@powerandpresence5290can you believe that anyone voted for her. she had a 28% approval rating before Biden dropped out. It was all just pure made up by the media. She is extremely unlikable and was the first to drop out of the 2020 race because she couldn’t even win her own state. Why would anybody vote for a defund the police candidate who opened the border signed a bill that had inflation goes through the roof and shut down the keystone pipeline making gas prices sore in the beginning. I couldn’t think of one good thing to vote for her for.
Predicting a candidate to win when they lost almost all swing states, even hours before the election is ridiculous. You certainly lost my Sub Bloomberg. I suggest cleaning house and bringing competent analysts if Bloomberg is serious about survival...
Polls are poorly taken since they are done in the interest of the ones that pay for them. This guy seems to be always wrong and now he backpedals. "I never said that"!!! Really????
@anotherinternetperson7410 hard disagree. I can point to the scoreboard of the House, the Senate, and the Presidency. Trump gets two more Supreme Court seats, so 50 years of Trump influence. Seems like he ran up the score here.
It seems like with every debate, both sides always think their candidate won. Unless someone really screwed up like Joe Biden having dementia and forgetting what he’s saying
@@xxyyzz8464 she had a 28% approval rating before Biden dropped out. She was the first to drop out in 2020 race couldn’t win her own state because she’s extremely unlikable with her fake laugh.
There were a couple of UA-cam guys yes UA-cam guys who went over the aggreate polls up and down and I listened to 4-5 of them and afterwards I was convinced he was going to sweep the wing states . ALL the mainstream pollsters SUCKED they all said “it’s a coin flip”, Nate Silver of 538, Kornaki the Iowa was a total red herring that got a few dems excited lol 😅.
They weren’t. AtlasIntel, literally the best pollster, with the best reputation for accuracy, was spot on. They were ignored along with other polls like Rassmussen that showed Trump winning.
The US News Media is not worth listening to - I would rather get my news from North Korea's English language broadcast - they have more journalistic integrity.
@ The mainstream media are mostly anti Trump. Trump is a convicted felon with lots of questionable and dubious transgressions. Some voters are not proud to be associated with him but they think he will run the country better than Kamala, Kamala is a black Indian women ….what an uphill task as no non white man had ever won. Democrats are too woke to realise that. It’s the economy STUPID. The Democrats position on illegals is way too soft.
Not ashamed , half of the folks want to have liberal Pollsters get discredited. Other is they don’t want them to know how many fake ballots to cheat. So if they think they have real votes, no 2.6 million ballots in the middle of the night with no signature verification.
He did somewhat, especially deregulating energy production, and immigration. But he was president before so people assumed his policies would be similar to what they were.
Republicans should take care of this victory and start early in 2025 to aim for future victories. Thus, follow up with voters from all communities. Don’t let the hating and racist Democrats ever come to power again! Including the Senate and House!
Liberal pollsters were grossly over estimating Harris's support? Nooo...say it ain't so, am shocked!
Well, the conservative pollsters were wrong too. So the lesson that is best learned is to not trust ANY polls.
That's probably true if you take as a premise that every pollster is a liberal, in the sense that every person who understands and knows how to use data and science is a liberal (not exactly true, but, honestly, close to true).
And that is the reason why in UA-cam videos like this one, the most popular comments are from dumb people who don't understand anything complex, and hence assume that if predictions are off, it must be on purpose. I almost wonder if when the weather forecast says rain and it doesn't rain, you assume too that is because meteorologists have a pro-rain bias.
Didn't we do this already in 2016?
Ann Selzer should never be taken seriously again
None of them will be treated seriously. They are ridiculous.
No kidding, some MSM trying to say her bad poll was within the margin of error?! Like fella, if you are allowing a poll that much margin, why do we even do them?
@@kyleanderson2949 I laughed when I read this. 16 point margin of error in Iowa 😂
Vaush literally called her extremely reliable LOL
@@oldiewave2640
Doesn't that guy like porn with animals or something?
Fake news media & fake pollsters 😂
Because they were partisan and not reporting the reality of the situation, maybe? 😂
Exactly. I'd also add that Trump voters are less likely to respond to pollsters
No, because even the most right-leaning polls underestimate him. The simpler explanation that fits the facts is Trump has a larger number of supporters who would never answer the phone or respond to a poll than your typical Dem, so all polls suffer from what is called “sample bias” which is not a political leaning bias, but is a reflection of your stupidity in not being able to statistically sample the populations appropriately. They needed to account for and correct for this bias, but it’s more work so these lazy pollsters never did that and just continued with their inaccurate methods.
@@raulandreshernandezdelaros6203 That is true about us Trump supporters not responding to pollsters. It also includes most of independents. As a black male conservative, i would never answer a poll, nor listen to the media, because its all ultra-partisan. I can find better news on the internet, than watching MSM. There are two kinds of news reporting: (1) Leaving out certain facts; (2) miscontruing the facts. I prefer number 2, because i can read between the lines and understand what they are trying to do, plus, i have my own brain, and can think for myself, but number 1, is just damn ugly
It's funny how whenever there's an error with the Media or Big Tech, it always seems to be in favor of the left?
@@wanaced6 good for you kid stay unbiased its a v rare trait now
Because they were grade A bull$hit
The Iowa poll was an outlier, not a trend any pollster worth his salt could see that. The fact that media latched on to that as a sign of some sort of Kamala sweep is so absurb. If a New York poll a week before the election had Trump over Kamala by 3 points, would they have pushed that? Of course not. It would be seen as just what it is, an outlier and nothing more.
What happened to over 15 million democrat voters Frank? FIFTEEN MILLION! That 2020 81 million total starting to look mighty suspicious.
See when Trump said the election 2020 was stolen it was
The polls are always left-leaning. Always. Always.
Because you guys literally live in your own universe and you're against the grain of it
They haven't learned anything since 2016.
How can Luntz make a living being wrong all the time
He can't think clearly because of the hair hat that he has on his head, it's too tight
Democrats are kinda used to being wrong 😂
Its like the weatherman. If you get it right, they praise their skill and if they get it wrong, it is the candidate. Apparently, Luntz was not asked to poll whether Kamala will win and how, but rather who will win the election.
As long as his errors favors Dems, that’s good enough.
Bloomberg poll one of the worst by far
I knew the polls were wrong. I work in corporate America. It is a big company, and I couldn't find many that supported her. A lot was not talking so, I knew Trump had a lot of silent support.
genuinely curious why Trump supporters, aside from those attending Maga rallies, are usually silent? is there a degree of shame to their allegiance? Is it fear people will see them as racists, bigots etc.? Are they worried people will think they as supporters share the same moral/ethical standards as trump? I don’t understand the mindset and would be interested to hear from a silent trump supporter.
You put 2 and 2 together and saw it for what is was
It's not about Mr Trump - The citizens are reflecting their condition 😢
This show is as cheerful as a funeral, I wonder who they wanted to win?
Well, they are staring at a carcass. Tends to dampen the mood.
@@powerandpresence5290can you believe that anyone voted for her. she had a 28% approval rating before Biden dropped out. It was all just pure made up by the media. She is extremely unlikable and was the first to drop out of the 2020 race because she couldn’t even win her own state. Why would anybody vote for a defund the police candidate who opened the border signed a bill that had inflation goes through the roof and shut down the keystone pipeline making gas prices sore in the beginning. I couldn’t think of one good thing to vote for her for.
@@powerandpresence5290 facts👍😂
Because they were all fake??😂😂😂
Fake news confused why they put out fake news
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Predicting a candidate to win when they lost almost all swing states, even hours before the election is ridiculous. You certainly lost my Sub Bloomberg. I suggest cleaning house and bringing competent analysts if Bloomberg is serious about survival...
Frank Lutz doesn't know what the votes want to see and hear. So...what value does his interpretation have?
The elites finding a reason to justify their errors :)
more propaganda is on the menu for next time!
Hopefully they never learn so they keep losing for the next decade, shhhhh
My condolences to Bloomberg staff
She got those points up because she was the shiny new toy and just like a Christmas toy, America played with it for a few days and trashed it.
This is not a Biden issue. Don't blame the poor guy on this.
Polls are poorly taken since they are done in the interest of the ones that pay for them. This guy seems to be always wrong and now he backpedals. "I never said that"!!! Really????
Exactly! They are paid by the candidates and try to help them in the polls. They want to manipulate the community. I am pretty sure.
@@barbaradymidziuk2312Why in the world would you count on the polls if u think they're rigged?
Garbage does not poll well.
Did she win the debate? I dont remember it going that way at all
@@DarkLordJmac she did but it doesn’t matter because debates don’t matter
@anotherinternetperson7410 hard disagree. I can point to the scoreboard of the House, the Senate, and the Presidency. Trump gets two more Supreme Court seats, so 50 years of Trump influence. Seems like he ran up the score here.
@@DarkLordJmac winning the election and winning the debate aren’t the same thing
It seems like with every debate, both sides always think their candidate won. Unless someone really screwed up like Joe Biden having dementia and forgetting what he’s saying
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Wow, biggest surprise of the century. Who could have predicted that this may not have been 50/50.
She won the debate, but that didn’t matter. Winning the election is what matters.
@@xxyyzz8464 she had a 28% approval rating before Biden dropped out. She was the first to drop out in 2020 race couldn’t win her own state because she’s extremely unlikable with her fake laugh.
Democrat media and pollsters are living in lalaland
They still dont get it cause they're insane
Atlas Intel and Trafalgar were accurate in 2020, 2022, and 2024. Good pollsters do exist.
lol, she was installed. She's a horrible politician.
Pronouns are selected not elected. Biden was asked who's your running mate he said A black woman.
Frank forgot that the debate was 3 on 1.
So ... Rasmussen wasn't some right wing nutjob section, but just the reality no one wanted to acknowledge?
She never answered the questions, period.
There were a couple of UA-cam guys yes UA-cam guys who went over the aggreate polls up and down and I listened to 4-5 of them and afterwards I was convinced he was going to sweep the wing states .
ALL the mainstream pollsters SUCKED they all said “it’s a coin flip”, Nate Silver of 538, Kornaki the Iowa was a total red herring that got a few dems excited lol 😅.
Nice wig
Better than a bald head 😂
THIS is supposed to be an unbiased pollster? Imagine the biased democrat pollsters....
You mean, how were they wrong for a third time???
Why feel mad about the fact you have to hold the election before you find out the winner?
Because they poll specific areas and only ask about a 1000 people. This isnt new.
Ok this dudes emotional insecurities are evident by his hair piece
Why are these polling services that are consistently wrong given any credence?
Luntz needs to be fired. Why does he get airtime
Frank Luntz has no credibility no point on taking this guys opinion!
They weren’t. AtlasIntel, literally the best pollster, with the best reputation for accuracy, was spot on. They were ignored along with other polls like Rassmussen that showed Trump winning.
You were all wrong.
Rasmussen for one got it pretty right!
BUT HOW MUCH DID HE PAY ELECTION OFFICIALS TO GET HIS NUMBERS UP?
Ya, how much does it cost?
Pollsters are done Las Vegas are the new pollsters
When the debate between Trump and Harris people's know that it was biased moderator and they didn't fact check Harris.
The US News Media is not worth listening to - I would rather get my news from North Korea's English language broadcast - they have more journalistic integrity.
Wish Luntz would buy a new rug
Identity politics is no longer working. People are tired of the woke ideology.
Media plays a big role in changing the narrative.
Solid analysis, OP
We wouldnt answer the questions if we werent asked them…..hahaha thats classic Luntz
Hey Folks. I don’t care how JOYFUL any Candidate is: That “joy” will NEVER EVER pay my grocery bill nor lower my electric bills!!!
Pollsters were wrong because of their model or because of their XXX
Bloomberg trash
Rassmussen wasn't wrong.
All wrong. Polls wrong and journalists predictions from US and Uk and Europe all wrong.
Can’t believe polls after 2016
People are not wrong, you guys are wrong
The age of spin doctors is fading. People look for truth and level-headedness now.
4:03. Agree with every word he said. And I voted for her.
We need to donate to Luntz so he can buy a new toupee.
Polls were not standing on sound poles
Why is a pollster loser who doesn’t know what he is talking about being interviewed?
Let's be clear. Some polls were wrong. Some polls were pretty accurate. Like AtlasIntel ended up being quite accurate.
Right on! I'm glad to hear someone speaking the truth! So right!
This election smells fishy.
@@SidW-l4z Why? Explain
Yes, because there are 14 no voter ID states ,and those are the states she won. She probably would’ve lost everyone.
Because they were paid to be.
I guess the sales of the bakery cookies were a tell-tale sign Quite simple
This guy is full of it. Making excuses.
There rooting for harris to win that's why they were wrong
Frank brown nosing because he also got it way wrong. 😂
Nobody should listen to anything has to say. He’s a clown
Frank, has not been correct for years. Why does anyone listen to him.
Corruption xx
Clueless.
Hilarious 😆 they just don’t learn
3 times in a row.....
Not Wrong,FAKE
Voters are ashamed to tell the pollster that they are voting for Trump.
That could go either way
@
The mainstream media are mostly anti Trump.
Trump is a convicted felon with lots of questionable and dubious transgressions.
Some voters are not proud to be associated with him but they think he will run the country better than Kamala,
Kamala is a black Indian women ….what an uphill task as no non white man had ever won.
Democrats are too woke to realise that.
It’s the economy STUPID.
The Democrats position on illegals is way too soft.
Not ashamed , half of the folks want to have liberal Pollsters get discredited. Other is they don’t want them to know how many fake ballots to cheat. So if they think they have real votes, no 2.6 million ballots in the middle of the night with no signature verification.
This guy……
...the Polls were not Wrong....but Elon's use of GROK was....asked Alex Halderman....
"she never articulated what she wanted to do". Did Trump ever articulate what he wanted to do? Trump was low on policies too
He did somewhat, especially deregulating energy production, and immigration. But he was president before so people assumed his policies would be similar to what they were.
🙋🍊😆😂😅🤣
Republicans should take care of this victory and start early in 2025 to aim for future victories. Thus, follow up with voters from all communities.
Don’t let the hating and racist Democrats ever come to power again! Including the Senate and House!
gross
Frank you need a new job, 😏🤣
fake news.
Moron still in denial
Moo Deng did a lot better prediction than many pollsters🐷🦛