Hey folks! Sorry for the delay on our end, but we just came across this video and wanted to jump in to try and clear things up! One thing we can confirm remains unchanged is that there's a noticeable green tint on the C4 we bought and tested. This is a widespread issue that impacts almost all LG OLED panels, but this is also something that can vary widely from unit-to-unit. LG Electronics has confirmed to us that our unit is about as bad as it gets, and anything worse wouldn't pass LG's quality control checks. Although it varies between units, most people shouldn't see this issue on their TV. This issue also isn't new or exclusive to the C4, as it's been an issue on LG TVs for a few years now. That said, we've actually gone ahead and updated our review to echo this sentiment properly, as we never want our reviews to be misleading to users. Caleb, we really appreciate you bringing this up and starting this dialogue, since it's helped us improve the quality of our review. Thanks a bunch! And if you or anyone in the comments have any follow-up questions or concerns, we're happy to further discuss things!
Folks, this is why I have massive respect and appreciation for the folks at Rtings. Thanks, Rtings, for having some fun and informative dialogue around this and helping make customer buying decisions easier and better informed.
Caleb mentioning the B9 viewing angle miss is exactly why I watch this channel. Being honest and forthcoming is the reason I trust him. It's also difficult to be self-aware when you have 1.24M followers, so huge kudos to you! :) Keep at it, and just to mention, love this week's You Asked episode!
I had an LG plasma about 15 years ago when my daughter was very young and a lot of the kids shows were 4:3. It developed a visible brightness difference on the sides pretty quickly - less than a year. I called LG and put in a warranty claim that they originally brushed off because they said they don’t cover burn in. I argued that this wasn’t burn in, it was from the opposite, and that their manual didn’t say anything about not watching a lot of content with black bars. The guy came around and agreed with me and sent a tech out. I wasn’t home when the tech came, but he told my wife it’s burn in and left without doing anything because they don’t cover that. I vowed to never buy an LG product again, and I haven’t. They lost a lot more from me than the cost to replace that panel.
My situation is almost the same as yours. In 2009, my father bought a Panasonic plasma TV. At that time, almost all TV shows were in 4:3 format. A few years later, when TV stations gradually changed the video aspect ratio to 16:9 format, I noticed that the brightness on both sides was significantly higher than in the middle. This was particularly noticeable in bright scenes, but not so obvious in dark scenes.
The LG tech was unfortunately correct. Burning in the entire center of the screen instead of just a channel logo or game HUD is still just plain burn-in. Poor of them to jerk you around like that between the phone rep and on-site tech though. I do remember my Panasonic plasma did have some warnings about letterboxed/pillarboxed content and had a "grey bars" feature to help with it, but _man_ was it ugly to have that enabled.
@@random_n I get the concept, but still have issues with the semantics of it. Uniform panel degradation in areas of use isn't what I would personally consider "burn-in". Burn-in is almost always referred to in the context of static elements unevenly degrading those areas. My main point with LG was that even if I accept the argument that this is technically burn-in, they should have mentioned it in the manual and had a feature such as the gray bars you mentioned to combat it. There were a lot of warnings regarding channel logos and game elements, but not even a mention of black bars. I followed all the rules they laid out, and my TV still wound up with issues. Agreeing to cover it and then rescinding was infuriating.
Hello all, I am a Calibrator, with twenty years industry experience. Love Caleb’s reviews, on this particular topic that of Calibration I felt some information was lacking that could help bring clarity to the question posed. When calibrating a display our job as Calibrators is to hit targets set by entities such as the NTSC, SMPTE etc. These targets govern several factors including Color Gamut - Color Luminance - Gamma / PQEOTF and most importantly to answer this question White Balance. It is soooooo important to express when a program is being filmed and mastered, if the entity producing this content (and almost everyone does) is adhering to the above mentioned standards called Scene Referred light which means light captured by a camera then they are producing their content with a color temperature of 6500 Degrees Kelvin. So…. What does this mean?? This means when I’m calibrating a display I am attempting to bring the television or projector as close to a D65 White Point as possible. The goal of this (and this is the whole ballgame) is to set the television to render content as the content creator intended. This will show you movies as close as possible to what a CI colorist saw when mastering a film or a camera captured at a hockey game. This means……. You technically (if you as a client are interested in seeing what the content creator intended) do NOT require several picture modes. The picture modes on televisions are placed there to allow for the deviation of accuracy and should be thought of as the equivalent of Bass and Treble controls on a stereo. For example if after calibration a client told me they wanted a cooler color temp (an image that accentuates blue) I would be happy to do that but would make the client aware that they are essentially raising the “treble” on their television and the image would no longer be considered accurate and may then render other content watched in a manner now undesirable. Now, What I do practice regularly is setting up two modes….. A Day and a Night mode. Both modes maintain a proper D65 White Point but the day mode for example is set much brighter to combat ambient lighting etc. Using this method allows clients to see an image that always pops annnnd is always accurate, no matter the time of day they watch. If anyone has any questions I am happy to respond ☺️ Again love Caleb’s reviews
Thanks for the detailed explanation. As a client I would like you to calibrate at least 3 to 4 modes as mentioned by denison. One for the day, one for the night, one for the sports with cool temperature,, one for the gaming mode, and finally one for viewing photos. I know this takes lots of your time but is this possible? Or these steps unnecessary. What's your take on this
@@arnold_m_xavier Hello, I am in and service the Seattle Washington area. Not certain of your location. I do and have flown out of state to perform calibration but this may be cost prohibitive for you. Typically I fly only to locations where no Calibrator is present. I always calibrate SDR - HDR - Dolby Vision and a Day/Night mode at our standard rate. Based upon your description you would only need two White Balance calibrations, then this information would be copied to the inputs for the sources mentioned. depending upon the age of your television the settings may be automatically copied by the television if we were to deem it to do so. This should be an easy task for any Calibrator. Oh and lastly Caleb if I am understanding him correctly also did not endorse a cooler mode for Sports. Sounded like his opinion is as mine. If you the client want it, it can be done. If asked would I recommend it, no I wouldn’t simply being a proper calibration would render an image as close to you being in the arena as possible. If you want a bluish hue then it would be the equivalent of you buying a ticket to the arena sitting down then putting on a pair of glasses with light bluish lenses. Buttttt what the client wants the client gets. If you want blue I’ll give you as blue an image as you want ☺️
@@SENCORE_ISFdo you calibrate bt2020 in all those modes or in what scenario is recommended or a client would ask to calibrate rec2020 does this pertain to game mode in SDR or moveis/shows
@@carlosr.2027 Great question 🤩 The target Color Gamut for SDR (Standard Dynamic Range) High Definition is Rec:709 For SDR content this is always the target. For HDR and Dolby Vision the target is both DCI-P3 and REC2020 Best way to explain I have found is this…… The ideal at this time is REC2020. The Sony A95L for example can reach approximately 90% of the 2020 standard and it can produce 100% of the P3 standard. The difference between P3 and 2020 is simply 2020 has a wider color range. Meaning the television can produce more colors Think of it like this. Let’s say you’re sitting in a chair and you want to reach a glass of water. Most current TV’s are in reach, that is DCI-P3. Now let’s say someone moves the glass in line but simply further away. You’re still reaching in the same direction you just can’t quite get there. This is where we are with REC2020. Now calibrating either 709 P3 or 2020, meaning not its reach but its accuracy is another matter. When calibrating the White Point of the Television, attempting to reach D65. This will often, almost always improve the Color Gamut of the television. After this the televisions Color Management system is used to attempt to increase accuracy and proper saturation. BUT, most televisions do not posses a management system sophisticated enough to make a large impact. Again most of the gains in Gamut are achieved while setting the color temp IE white point. Then subtile benefit may be achieved using Color Management, but this is highly dependent upon the display. Confirming the source Games V Blu-Ray etc doesn’t matter. It is REC709 for SDR DCI-P3 and REC2020 for HDR and Dolby Vision.
@@SENCORE_ISF hey thanks so much for your reply. I am from South India from the state of Tamilnadu. Here, the TV calibrator job simply doesn't exist. There is just TV service centre, and none of them know what is a calibration is.. so there is a ample amount of opportunity for you guys here. So you can start your own company here, train a bunch of guys and make your fortune in the cities like Chennai, Bangalore and Mumbai
I think the opposite of Burn In is actually what we refer to as “Burn In” today, even though I think “Burn Out” would be a more appropriate description. “Burn In” is when the image is actually burnt into the screen, like on my grandpa’s TV as a child where the News logo could be seen on the TV at all times, even when it was turned off. But today’s “burn in” on OLED TV’s is actually pixels wearing out, which is why I think calling it “burn out” is more accurate.
I have a 65 inch C4... I don't ever notice a green tint, maybe I'm lucky? But I can say, at least at this size, I've never seen a green tint. And I'd also argue that on OLEDs the off angle viewing required to even notice any difference is usually a LOT larger angle required than a traditional LCD or MiniLED panel. I know my Sony Bravia 9 (which is in another room than my main room) is also 65 inches and you can start noticing off angle blooming at about 35 degrees (yikes) even at the highest local dimming mode. And keep in mind, that's the most expensive and highest quality MiniLED on the market right now. Any OLED I've ever had didn't start doing anything noticable until around 75 - 80 degrees off angle from the center (head-on) position. So even if there is a green tint, I don't think it'd ever be a serious issue.
Apple’s TrueTone feature uses a hardware light sensor to adjust the display’s color based on both the strength and color of the ambient light. It’s not possible to match that by calibrating a TV unless both the TV and Apple device are always in exactly the same strength and color of ambient light.
Dutch tech web site Tweakers also mentioned the green tint on LG C4, although they say it's only from an angle of 45 degrees onwards. In the review they say "during testing with multiple OLED TVs next to each other, several collegues walking in noticed the green color effect. We do not recommend this TV for large families that want to sit around the TV".
Hi, I’m a retailer, and we have a 77, 65 and 55 inch C4 OLEDs. I took the time to inspect them and I didn’t noticed any green tint at all, also I checked on a 42 C3 OLED and we couldn’t find any green tint whatsoever. Maybe we got lucky, and if I hear anything about any of our costumers and owners of a C4 I’ll let you all know.
I have the 48 inch and only see it extreme angles. Like side looking at the TV from the side. Take half a foot in front and you can see it. Most people would never watch a TV at that angle so it's not a big deal. I haven't see the tint in weeks since you have to look for it. Or setup a test to check extreme viewing angles. I think 9 out of 10 people wouldn't notice it unless someone pointed it out and they tried to duplicate the extreme unwatchable viewing angle.
I have the C4 48 inch. Does it have an tint? Yes, at extrme unwatchable angles. I only see it when I walk in my room looking at the TV from it's side angle. Like, who's watching a TV at that angle? Even if I had wide seating it wouldn't be noticeable. In order to see it, stand directly on the side of the TV looking at the thin profile. Take 1 half foot in front of the TV and there it is.
About calibrating. Approximately how much does it cost to calibrate a TV? Does it matter about the size or type (OLED vs LED)? How do you find a calibrator? Do any of the big box sores offer it or is it a specialize skill? How sharp does your eye have to be to notice the difference? Thanks.
What makes the letterbox burn-in risk even higher is the fact that the TV dynamically adjusts overall brightness in relation to screen area that's been lit, so the bigger the letterbox area, the brighter the content will be.
@@spandel100 That's impressive. I'd rather spend a few thousands after 2 years than suffer through such a distorted image. To be honest I'm not particularly afraid of uneven wear. My plasma was fine, and new TVs have tech to mitigate the issue. Haven't seen anyone with such issues anyway. And if you are too scared, get an LCD.
@@kadajawi2 My plasma was fine too.With the amount of money I spent on the OLED though,and being on pension,I am taking no chances.I don't get distortion,I am very careful with the adjustments.
Super happy that something like an OLED is accurate for a dark room viewing out of the box. My experience with professional calibration was super bad. I could enumerate a long list of criticisms, but suffixed to say, I felt totally ripped off.
already knew the answer to the opposite of burn-in. Have the alienware qd oled that is ultra wide screen. The fastest way to get the "negative" burn in is to watch a bunch of 16:9 content on the ultrawide monitor. Considering that mostly everything is for 16:9 consumer the screen will be have the negative burn in within a few hundred hours if you take no recourse. The best solution is to find software that has "ambient" mode mirroring some of the color of the content in the black space or suck it up and deal with the stretch. Cinema isn't too bad as directors choose to shoot wide and the perspective is cleaner if you want to stretch. Its not as difficult as the video describes though. It will happen eventually. Its likely not as bad on Oled tv's as 16:9 content is the standard and most people aren't watching Cinema exclusively. with a 21:9 ratio, outside of gaming, there is no content at all that natively fits the screen.
if Sony uses a ads pro panel on their 2nd gen Bravia 9 would that make a difference and would it take it to next level in PQ and contrast from the current VA they are using,b9 is the best mini Led I’ve seen to date incredible
Great video as always. Question: Is their unit essentially store bought while your c4 was a handpicked unit? Seems no one in their right mind would ever handpick a unit for you that has any issues particularly visible. Is not that more likely? With handpicked one may never see something that say affects 1% or even 50% the tvs in a very noticeable way. Just keeping it real for a very carefully handpicked tv unit for a top reviewer. When you say my unit does not it needs a big ol astrix.
As to the "opposite of burn in," I had it happen on my first plasma. I purchased a Panasonic commercial plasma in 2003, at a time when there was not a lot of HD content and much of what I watched had a 4:3 picture ratio. I also watched a lot of hockey, which by 2006 or 2007 was now mostly in HD. I bought a replacement plasma in 2008, and by that time there were faint areas visible on either side of the picture that I could see only on the ice where the picture was noticeably brighter where there had been black bars on 4:3 content.
Calibration is for professional video production, everyone else can eyeball the settings to taste, thankfully out of the box settings are better than ever.
It's all best referred to as "uneven wear." If you had bright bars on 16:9 content because you always watched 2.35:1 content, that would be uneven wear. Similarly, if you had a news chiron or logo "burnt in, " that would still be uneven wear. "Burn in" is a leftover from CRT days, when the phosphor coating on the inside of a glass screen could literally get burnt by having a repetitive image on it. Most frequently these were PC or arcade screens.
I’ve seen most of the top TVs this year in person & the WOLED TVs from both Sony & LG exhibit significant green tint off angle, but it varies by unit with some being barely noticeable & others being almost unwatchable IMHO.
Considering that my first issue with image retention ( temporary burn in) words with the letter box the invisible in content that didn't have letter boxes for 12 hours. This is why I no longer want to buy or use a OLED TV. And yes I realize from Alaska standpoint burning isn't much of an issue. Especially since I made sure my extended warranty will cover burn in. However we humans are emotional creatures. The stress of knowing that it can happen again alone is enough to make me no longer want to use OLED. Why is my LG C1 is the by far the best TV in my house, I rather use my inferior TCL 617 until I can replace the OLED. P.S. I originally got the OLED because I heard they were darker TVs and I can't stand bright TVs. (I have to use the TCL in it's darkest mode)
13:10 here’s the thing is the movie mode The reference mode so can I use it for sports , gaming etc.. Why do I need to adjust sport mode when movie mode is the reference mode ? If I want brightness I’ll just crack it up in movie mode and be done with it
Movie mode may be accurate but it's only accurate with the lights off and that's not how most people watch sports. You can also make a more realistic image with some tweaking which is what most people would also prefer for sports.
@@paulcox2447 mmm I would use movie mode while lights on what’s the harm ? Unless if the panel is QDOLED it shouldn’t matter and even then it will raise black levels and sports doesn’t have any black levels
It's ironic how we all wanted to calibrate our TVs, then saw the calibrated image in the movie and professional modes and are now wondering who in their right mind would use a calibrated image. Calibrated SDR is almost scary on LED TVs.
My C7 had the black bar reverse burn in, after about four years that was a slight line of delineation full 16:9 content right where the 2.35 bars would be. Luckily by the time I noticed it, I was ready to afraid to the CX . That TV still lives on with a new owner who doesn’t seem to notice it.
I think the “off angle” matters little on these TVs because: - if you buy a high end TV you want quality - if you want quality, you want to watch content without geometric distortion! (E.g. like viewing off angle) Yes, if you are paying for one TV the same as for 2/3 “standard” TVs, it’s better that they are good at everything, but I’m much more worried that they sound well enough, than if off angle they are not perfect. That said, ANY new OLED is fantastic and the B9 is THE best LCD for those watching sports, news very long and often and also need ridiculous amounts of brightness. That doesn’t work well on an OLED. For my use case, an OLED (e.g the G4/S95D) is the better choice.
I notice this with the inactive picture on my S95B. Pixel shift was activated for 2 years. This offset leaves the screen inactive at the end. Now, when I put some color on full screen, I see that my screen is one idea brighter at the edges. I turned off pixel sweep but it's unlikely to fix it.
Not a fan of Apple True Tone. I know what it is trying to do the problem is that my brain doesn't like it because I name working on something I don't pay attention to the surrounding light so it makes the colors look off based on environment or if the environment changes like you have a window open. I usually turn it off for everything except the iPhone where It actually works because how small the display is and how far I hold it from my face.But unless the TV has an ambient light sensor for white balance of the room no calibration is going to match true tone because it is a dynamic calibration based don't he white balance of the light in the room. Also for the last question isn't that still just burn-in the burn-in is just in the center of the screen? I mean yeah the edge pixels didn't burn in but the rest of the screen did.
How do we calibrate ourselves? In-depth video tutorial guide please! Not every country has professional calibrators available no matter how much money you throw (except if u buy a ticket for a calibrator to fly to you from other country 😅)
The question about getting a TV calibrated to match their Apple Display with True Tone enabled confused me. True Tone adjusts the colour temp of the display based on ambient light (which is always changing).
Sony needs to get those drivers in the backlight from the Bravia 9 and repurpose them to a Tandem OLED that can hit 1000 nits on a Full white screen. Give said panel an ultra high refresh rate of like 480 hz in terms of panel scan out so that you get smooth panning motion and that would be a TV I would buy
Re the LG C4 green tint issue, it is there i have seen it for myself when i returned my 2 week old C3 that suffered from a pink tint. This is backed up buy another youtuber "The Tech Giant" reviews of the C3 and C4. It is not a myth, it may only be a few bad panels, but from the A/V Techs i have spoken to they all said that they have seen it many times, plus LG Oleds suffer from banding which my C3 had out of the box. So sorry Caleb, i believe what others haved proved to be a known issue.
My 21:9 OLED PC monitor has burn-out. It's because I watched a LOT of 16:9 videos on it over the course of 1.5 years. Like, 8+ hours a day, every day. The left and right sections of the screen that normally have black bars are a different shade than everything in the middle 16:9 area.
Easiest way to cook the screen. I have one too and it made it about 2 years until i started to get the "burn in". Its minor because i always avoided it, but since everything is 16:9 you just happen to use the middle more. I definitely notice it on any transition in a scene that is grey. I also notice it in purple. The blue subpixel is still the weakest link in Oled's.
@@richr161 Burn-in sucks, but for PC gaming, OLED has amazing response time and basically no ghosting, so I will stick with it and buy more OLED gaming monitors in the future. But for anything else, like a TV not used for gaming, I think OLED is inferior to something like LCD and it's all because of the risk of burn-in.
Do a Bravia 3 review. I am curious about the movie watching experience on it. I don’t care for gaming features so this tv seems up my alley. I’m wanting to replace my 2020 XBR 75x800h.
@@MKR3238I prefer an IPS panel and a direct backlit panel. Better colors and a wider viewing angle. It also gives the 80’s and 90’s movies a more cinematic look. That’s perfect for what I am looking for. I’m going with the 75inch Bravia 3 .
You can’t calibrate a tv to show true tune pictures or videos. True tune in of itself has sensors to adjust the color and intensity of your display to match the ambient light to be more natural.
I’ve went from a Neo qled to the lg g4 the picture is great but iam struggling to get used to the deep contrast I don’t know if it’s my settings but say someone is wearing a dark suit in a movie it kind of hurts my eyes it’s so saturated and deeply contrasted that if there is a bright scene behind a dark colour suit or car in a movie burns my eyes have I screwed the settings up please help I dumped 3999 on this tv 🤦🏻♂️
I can’t bring myself to want an OLED tv unless I win the lottery. Burn in and the general deterioration of the tv over say 5 years plus the backlight dimming. If you could afford a new expensive ass tv every few years maybe but I like to keep my tv until it dies usually especially if it cost a lot.
I have a 77" LG G4, but it has a noticeable blueish hue on the right side of the screen. It's most noticeable between 25 - 75% grayscale. And during hockey games. .. Anyone else have this issue? LG technician says it's within the limits (of course it is...)...
Letterbox burn in is still burn in, its just localized to the whole area that is being used opposed to the bars. Ive seen this on some early 16:9 tube tvs that were used with a lot of 4:3 content, its horrible. But anyway, since you just need to wear down the unused pixels, its sorta fixable. However, this is really content problem. TV is TV, I personally can NOT stand TV shows that are 21:9. It doesn't make it more "cinematic" it's just wasting TV real estate and makes your product look small. Worse, these stupid streaming services have the 21:9 show delivered in a physical 16:9 video file so there is no easy way to even view it on a 21:9 monitor. This needs to STOP.
My LG G1 allows for aspect ratio alteration when viewing letterbox content.I always use it.Movies have may more impact and immersion in 16:9 anyway.Time for things to move forward and for film companies to start filming in 16:9.Most stuff is viewed through streaming services now,so it begs the question,what is the point of letterbox?
I get your point with TV shows, but films are still meant to be seen in the theater and directors and cinematographers choose their aspect ratio for that. If they catered just to people’s TVs, that’s like saying movies should have been shot in 4:3 until around 2006.
I have a 48in c4. The green tint is real. I used it as a monitor and its very distracting. When im typing on word i see the green on the peripheral left and right sides. And in the middle its a pink tint. Even my computer icons are noticable with color shift in the left and right sides of the desktop. Its very easy see.. Its just unacceptable. My set is going to be returned.
Thanks for answering my question. I wanted to get the C4 but was concerned about the green tint. I ended up getting the LG C3 instead. I only had it for 3 days. Haven’t noticed the off angle green tint. But what I’ve discovered is that the left side of the screen has a pink tint especially when viewing at the center. It only shows on bright scenes. First noticed it on the opening helicopter scene of Spectre. Not very distracting but it’s there. I did search about this and there are forums on reddit where owners have mentioned it. Some are saying that it is caused by the anti glare coating that LG uses. I will be keeping it for now and decide later if i’ll replace it.
Having seen that part of the video now, though, the clear answer is still "burn-in" because the problem isn’t that the black bars are pristine, it's that the video area IS burned in.
Hey folks! Sorry for the delay on our end, but we just came across this video and wanted to jump in to try and clear things up!
One thing we can confirm remains unchanged is that there's a noticeable green tint on the C4 we bought and tested. This is a widespread issue that impacts almost all LG OLED panels, but this is also something that can vary widely from unit-to-unit. LG Electronics has confirmed to us that our unit is about as bad as it gets, and anything worse wouldn't pass LG's quality control checks. Although it varies between units, most people shouldn't see this issue on their TV. This issue also isn't new or exclusive to the C4, as it's been an issue on LG TVs for a few years now.
That said, we've actually gone ahead and updated our review to echo this sentiment properly, as we never want our reviews to be misleading to users.
Caleb, we really appreciate you bringing this up and starting this dialogue, since it's helped us improve the quality of our review. Thanks a bunch!
And if you or anyone in the comments have any follow-up questions or concerns, we're happy to further discuss things!
Folks, this is why I have massive respect and appreciation for the folks at Rtings. Thanks, Rtings, for having some fun and informative dialogue around this and helping make customer buying decisions easier and better informed.
Caleb mentioning the B9 viewing angle miss is exactly why I watch this channel. Being honest and forthcoming is the reason I trust him. It's also difficult to be self-aware when you have 1.24M followers, so huge kudos to you! :) Keep at it, and just to mention, love this week's You Asked episode!
I was viewing a Bravia 7 alongside a Bravia 8 and I must say I couldn’t really see any difference between the two the quality was awesome
I had an LG plasma about 15 years ago when my daughter was very young and a lot of the kids shows were 4:3. It developed a visible brightness difference on the sides pretty quickly - less than a year. I called LG and put in a warranty claim that they originally brushed off because they said they don’t cover burn in. I argued that this wasn’t burn in, it was from the opposite, and that their manual didn’t say anything about not watching a lot of content with black bars. The guy came around and agreed with me and sent a tech out. I wasn’t home when the tech came, but he told my wife it’s burn in and left without doing anything because they don’t cover that. I vowed to never buy an LG product again, and I haven’t. They lost a lot more from me than the cost to replace that panel.
My situation is almost the same as yours. In 2009, my father bought a Panasonic plasma TV. At that time, almost all TV shows were in 4:3 format. A few years later, when TV stations gradually changed the video aspect ratio to 16:9 format, I noticed that the brightness on both sides was significantly higher than in the middle. This was particularly noticeable in bright scenes, but not so obvious in dark scenes.
The LG tech was unfortunately correct. Burning in the entire center of the screen instead of just a channel logo or game HUD is still just plain burn-in.
Poor of them to jerk you around like that between the phone rep and on-site tech though. I do remember my Panasonic plasma did have some warnings about letterboxed/pillarboxed content and had a "grey bars" feature to help with it, but _man_ was it ugly to have that enabled.
You degraded the center part of the screen. The side bars were not degraded. It was burn in.
Let's hope tech has advanced even a little bit in 15yrs.
@@random_n I get the concept, but still have issues with the semantics of it. Uniform panel degradation in areas of use isn't what I would personally consider "burn-in". Burn-in is almost always referred to in the context of static elements unevenly degrading those areas. My main point with LG was that even if I accept the argument that this is technically burn-in, they should have mentioned it in the manual and had a feature such as the gray bars you mentioned to combat it. There were a lot of warnings regarding channel logos and game elements, but not even a mention of black bars. I followed all the rules they laid out, and my TV still wound up with issues. Agreeing to cover it and then rescinding was infuriating.
Hello all,
I am a Calibrator, with twenty years industry experience.
Love Caleb’s reviews, on this particular topic that of Calibration I felt some information was lacking that could help bring clarity to the question posed.
When calibrating a display our job as Calibrators is to hit targets set by entities such as the NTSC, SMPTE etc.
These targets govern several factors including Color Gamut - Color Luminance - Gamma / PQEOTF and most importantly to answer this question White Balance. It is soooooo important to express when a program is being filmed and mastered, if the entity producing this content (and almost everyone does) is adhering to the above mentioned standards called Scene Referred light which means light captured by a camera then they are producing their content with a color temperature of 6500 Degrees Kelvin.
So…. What does this mean?? This means when I’m calibrating a display I am attempting to bring the television or projector as close to a D65 White Point as possible. The goal of this (and this is the whole ballgame) is to set the television to render content as the content creator intended. This will show you movies as close as possible to what a CI colorist saw when mastering a film or a camera captured at a hockey game.
This means…….
You technically (if you as a client are interested in seeing what the content creator intended) do NOT require several picture modes. The picture modes on televisions are placed there to allow for the deviation of accuracy and should be thought of as the equivalent of Bass and Treble controls on a stereo.
For example if after calibration a client told me they wanted a cooler color temp (an image that accentuates blue) I would be happy to do that but would make the client aware that they are essentially raising the “treble” on their television and the image would no longer be considered accurate and may then render other content watched in a manner now undesirable.
Now,
What I do practice regularly is setting up two modes…..
A Day and a Night mode.
Both modes maintain a proper D65 White Point but the day mode for example is set much brighter to combat ambient lighting etc.
Using this method allows clients to see an image that always pops annnnd is always accurate, no matter the time of day they watch.
If anyone has any questions I am happy to respond ☺️
Again love Caleb’s reviews
Thanks for the detailed explanation. As a client I would like you to calibrate at least 3 to 4 modes as mentioned by denison. One for the day, one for the night, one for the sports with cool temperature,, one for the gaming mode, and finally one for viewing photos. I know this takes lots of your time but is this possible? Or these steps unnecessary. What's your take on this
@@arnold_m_xavier
Hello,
I am in and service the Seattle Washington area. Not certain of your location. I do and have flown out of state to perform calibration but this may be cost prohibitive for you.
Typically I fly only to locations where no Calibrator is present.
I always calibrate SDR - HDR - Dolby Vision and a Day/Night mode at our standard rate.
Based upon your description you would only need two White Balance calibrations, then this information would be copied to the inputs for the sources mentioned.
depending upon the age of your television the settings may be automatically copied by the television if we were to deem it to do so.
This should be an easy task for any Calibrator.
Oh and lastly Caleb if I am understanding him correctly also did not endorse a cooler mode for Sports. Sounded like his opinion is as mine. If you the client want it, it can be done.
If asked would I recommend it, no I wouldn’t simply being a proper calibration would render an image as close to you being in the arena as possible. If you want a bluish hue then it would be the equivalent of you buying a ticket to the arena sitting down then putting on a pair of glasses with light bluish lenses.
Buttttt what the client wants the client gets. If you want blue I’ll give you as blue an image as you want ☺️
@@SENCORE_ISFdo you calibrate bt2020 in all those modes or in what scenario is recommended or a client would ask to calibrate rec2020 does this pertain to game mode in SDR or moveis/shows
@@carlosr.2027
Great question 🤩
The target Color Gamut for SDR (Standard Dynamic Range) High Definition is Rec:709
For SDR content this is always the target.
For HDR and Dolby Vision the target is both DCI-P3 and REC2020
Best way to explain I have found is this……
The ideal at this time is REC2020. The Sony A95L for example can reach approximately 90% of the 2020 standard and it can produce 100% of the P3 standard.
The difference between P3 and 2020 is simply 2020 has a wider color range. Meaning the television can produce more colors
Think of it like this. Let’s say you’re sitting in a chair and you want to reach a glass of water. Most current TV’s are in reach, that is DCI-P3. Now let’s say someone moves the glass in line but simply further away. You’re still reaching in the same direction you just can’t quite get there. This is where we are with REC2020.
Now calibrating either 709 P3 or 2020, meaning not its reach but its accuracy is another matter.
When calibrating the White Point of the Television, attempting to reach D65. This will often, almost always improve the Color Gamut of the television. After this the televisions Color Management system is used to attempt to increase accuracy and proper saturation. BUT, most televisions do not posses a management system sophisticated enough to make a large impact. Again most of the gains in Gamut are achieved while setting the color temp IE white point. Then subtile benefit may be achieved using Color Management, but this is highly dependent upon the display.
Confirming the source Games V Blu-Ray etc doesn’t matter.
It is REC709 for SDR
DCI-P3 and REC2020 for HDR and Dolby Vision.
@@SENCORE_ISF hey thanks so much for your reply. I am from South India from the state of Tamilnadu. Here, the TV calibrator job simply doesn't exist. There is just TV service centre, and none of them know what is a calibration is.. so there is a ample amount of opportunity for you guys here. So you can start your own company here, train a bunch of guys and make your fortune in the cities like Chennai, Bangalore and Mumbai
I think the opposite of Burn In is actually what we refer to as “Burn In” today, even though I think “Burn Out” would be a more appropriate description. “Burn In” is when the image is actually burnt into the screen, like on my grandpa’s TV as a child where the News logo could be seen on the TV at all times, even when it was turned off. But today’s “burn in” on OLED TV’s is actually pixels wearing out, which is why I think calling it “burn out” is more accurate.
I have a 65 inch C4... I don't ever notice a green tint, maybe I'm lucky? But I can say, at least at this size, I've never seen a green tint. And I'd also argue that on OLEDs the off angle viewing required to even notice any difference is usually a LOT larger angle required than a traditional LCD or MiniLED panel. I know my Sony Bravia 9 (which is in another room than my main room) is also 65 inches and you can start noticing off angle blooming at about 35 degrees (yikes) even at the highest local dimming mode. And keep in mind, that's the most expensive and highest quality MiniLED on the market right now. Any OLED I've ever had didn't start doing anything noticable until around 75 - 80 degrees off angle from the center (head-on) position. So even if there is a green tint, I don't think it'd ever be a serious issue.
Apple’s TrueTone feature uses a hardware light sensor to adjust the display’s color based on both the strength and color of the ambient light. It’s not possible to match that by calibrating a TV unless both the TV and Apple device are always in exactly the same strength and color of ambient light.
I guess "TrueTone" is just a technical jargon for non-Apple Display folks. :)
Bravia 7 review, pretty please? Will that be happening soon?
Dutch tech web site Tweakers also mentioned the green tint on LG C4, although they say it's only from an angle of 45 degrees onwards. In the review they say "during testing with multiple OLED TVs next to each other, several collegues walking in noticed the green color effect. We do not recommend this TV for large families that want to sit around the TV".
The unburnt - that’s the right name for it
Another great episode of You Asked! Fun, interesting and informative!😄
Waiting for your bravia 8 review..
We didn't get a bravia a80l review either last year. Are Sony's mid range oleds not worth a conversation?
Hi, I’m a retailer, and we have a 77, 65 and 55 inch C4 OLEDs. I took the time to inspect them and I didn’t noticed any green tint at all, also I checked on a 42 C3 OLED and we couldn’t find any green tint whatsoever. Maybe we got lucky, and if I hear anything about any of our costumers and owners of a C4 I’ll let you all know.
I have the 48 inch and only see it extreme angles. Like side looking at the TV from the side. Take half a foot in front and you can see it. Most people would never watch a TV at that angle so it's not a big deal. I haven't see the tint in weeks since you have to look for it. Or setup a test to check extreme viewing angles. I think 9 out of 10 people wouldn't notice it unless someone pointed it out and they tried to duplicate the extreme unwatchable viewing angle.
I use cinema and filmmaker mode on my 55”LG G1 and it looks great. No need to pay for calibration.
I have the C4 48 inch. Does it have an tint? Yes, at extrme unwatchable angles. I only see it when I walk in my room looking at the TV from it's side angle. Like, who's watching a TV at that angle? Even if I had wide seating it wouldn't be noticeable. In order to see it, stand directly on the side of the TV looking at the thin profile. Take 1 half foot in front of the TV and there it is.
I had a 77 B9. Viewing angles are just fine for Mini LED.
If it's not good enough buy ADS pro or wait for VA+ next year.
Great video Caleb! When is the Bravia 7 review arriving?
Great job… super clear presentation❤
About calibrating. Approximately how much does it cost to calibrate a TV? Does it matter about the size or type (OLED vs LED)? How do you find a calibrator? Do any of the big box sores offer it or is it a specialize skill? How sharp does your eye have to be to notice the difference? Thanks.
What makes the letterbox burn-in risk even higher is the fact that the TV dynamically adjusts overall brightness in relation to screen area that's been lit, so the bigger the letterbox area, the brighter the content will be.
Good point.Use the aspect ratio adjustment that some TVs have to avoid this.
@@spandel100And ruin the image? No please don't.
@@kadajawi2 It doesn't ruin the image for me.And I can relax because I am not causing uneven wear on my screen.
@@spandel100 That's impressive. I'd rather spend a few thousands after 2 years than suffer through such a distorted image. To be honest I'm not particularly afraid of uneven wear. My plasma was fine, and new TVs have tech to mitigate the issue. Haven't seen anyone with such issues anyway. And if you are too scared, get an LCD.
@@kadajawi2 My plasma was fine too.With the amount of money I spent on the OLED though,and being on pension,I am taking no chances.I don't get distortion,I am very careful with the adjustments.
Super happy that something like an OLED is accurate for a dark room viewing out of the box. My experience with professional calibration was super bad. I could enumerate a long list of criticisms, but suffixed to say, I felt totally ripped off.
If you’re seeing a green tint, it just means you’re in the Matrix. Samsung’s “Neo” QLED probably can help with that.
already knew the answer to the opposite of burn-in.
Have the alienware qd oled that is ultra wide screen. The fastest way to get the "negative" burn in is to watch a bunch of 16:9 content on the ultrawide monitor. Considering that mostly everything is for 16:9 consumer the screen will be have the negative burn in within a few hundred hours if you take no recourse.
The best solution is to find software that has "ambient" mode mirroring some of the color of the content in the black space or suck it up and deal with the stretch. Cinema isn't too bad as directors choose to shoot wide and the perspective is cleaner if you want to stretch.
Its not as difficult as the video describes though. It will happen eventually. Its likely not as bad on Oled tv's as 16:9 content is the standard and most people aren't watching Cinema exclusively.
with a 21:9 ratio, outside of gaming, there is no content at all that natively fits the screen.
if Sony uses a ads pro panel on their 2nd gen Bravia 9 would that make a difference and would it take it to next level in PQ and contrast from the current VA they are using,b9 is the best mini Led I’ve seen to date incredible
Great video as always. Question: Is their unit essentially store bought while your c4 was a handpicked unit? Seems no one in their right mind would ever handpick a unit for you that has any issues particularly visible. Is not that more likely? With handpicked one may never see something that say affects 1% or even 50% the tvs in a very noticeable way. Just keeping it real for a very carefully handpicked tv unit for a top reviewer. When you say my unit does not it needs a big ol astrix.
Caleb do upgraded HDMI cables make any difference?
As to the "opposite of burn in," I had it happen on my first plasma. I purchased a Panasonic commercial plasma in 2003, at a time when there was not a lot of HD content and much of what I watched had a 4:3 picture ratio. I also watched a lot of hockey, which by 2006 or 2007 was now mostly in HD. I bought a replacement plasma in 2008, and by that time there were faint areas visible on either side of the picture that I could see only on the ice where the picture was noticeably brighter where there had been black bars on 4:3 content.
Calibration is for professional video production, everyone else can eyeball the settings to taste, thankfully out of the box settings are better than ever.
It's all best referred to as "uneven wear." If you had bright bars on 16:9 content because you always watched 2.35:1 content, that would be uneven wear. Similarly, if you had a news chiron or logo "burnt in, " that would still be uneven wear.
"Burn in" is a leftover from CRT days, when the phosphor coating on the inside of a glass screen could literally get burnt by having a repetitive image on it. Most frequently these were PC or arcade screens.
I’ve seen most of the top TVs this year in person & the WOLED TVs from both Sony & LG exhibit significant green tint off angle, but it varies by unit with some being barely noticeable & others being almost unwatchable IMHO.
Hi Caleb,
What do you think will replace the Sony X90L Bravia 2023 model?
About the green tint on the LG C4 OLED I have never had a problem
Considering that my first issue with image retention ( temporary burn in) words with the letter box the invisible in content that didn't have letter boxes for 12 hours. This is why I no longer want to buy or use a OLED TV.
And yes I realize from Alaska standpoint burning isn't much of an issue. Especially since I made sure my extended warranty will cover burn in. However we humans are emotional creatures. The stress of knowing that it can happen again alone is enough to make me no longer want to use OLED.
Why is my LG C1 is the by far the best TV in my house, I rather use my inferior TCL 617 until I can replace the OLED.
P.S. I originally got the OLED because I heard they were darker TVs and I can't stand bright TVs. (I have to use the TCL in it's darkest mode)
Best Buy seems to have good deals this weekend on the Bravia 7
13:10 here’s the thing is the movie mode
The reference mode so can I use it for sports , gaming etc..
Why do I need to adjust sport mode when movie mode is the reference mode ? If I want brightness I’ll just crack it up in movie mode and be done with it
Movie mode may be accurate but it's only accurate with the lights off and that's not how most people watch sports.
You can also make a more realistic image with some tweaking which is what most people would also prefer for sports.
@@paulcox2447 mmm
I would use movie mode while lights on what’s the harm ?
Unless if the panel is QDOLED it shouldn’t matter and even then it will raise black levels and sports doesn’t have any black levels
It's ironic how we all wanted to calibrate our TVs, then saw the calibrated image in the movie and professional modes and are now wondering who in their right mind would use a calibrated image.
Calibrated SDR is almost scary on LED TVs.
Waiting on Caleb’s video regarding the Panny news. 😊
My C7 had the black bar reverse burn in, after about four years that was a slight line of delineation full 16:9 content right where the 2.35 bars would be. Luckily by the time I noticed it, I was ready to afraid to the CX . That TV still lives on with a new owner who doesn’t seem to notice it.
I think the “off angle” matters little on these TVs because:
- if you buy a high end TV you want quality
- if you want quality, you want to watch content without geometric distortion! (E.g. like viewing off angle)
Yes, if you are paying for one TV the same as for 2/3 “standard” TVs, it’s better that they are good at everything, but I’m much more worried that they sound well enough, than if off angle they are not perfect.
That said, ANY new OLED is fantastic and the B9 is THE best LCD for those watching sports, news very long and often and also need ridiculous amounts of brightness. That doesn’t work well on an OLED. For my use case, an OLED (e.g the G4/S95D) is the better choice.
Do firmware updates negatively impact the calibrated picture quality, therein negating the value of the calibration?
The rtings review of the C4 has a video under its Viewing Angle section, and.. oof
I’m always curious to know what the album is over your left shoulder in each show!
I notice this with the inactive picture on my S95B. Pixel shift was activated for 2 years. This offset leaves the screen inactive at the end. Now, when I put some color on full screen, I see that my screen is one idea brighter at the edges. I turned off pixel sweep but it's unlikely to fix it.
I had a C4 and the green tint is very noticeable as RTings said
Not a fan of Apple True Tone. I know what it is trying to do the problem is that my brain doesn't like it because I name working on something I don't pay attention to the surrounding light so it makes the colors look off based on environment or if the environment changes like you have a window open. I usually turn it off for everything except the iPhone where It actually works because how small the display is and how far I hold it from my face.But unless the TV has an ambient light sensor for white balance of the room no calibration is going to match true tone because it is a dynamic calibration based don't he white balance of the light in the room. Also for the last question isn't that still just burn-in the burn-in is just in the center of the screen? I mean yeah the edge pixels didn't burn in but the rest of the screen did.
How do we calibrate ourselves? In-depth video tutorial guide please! Not every country has professional calibrators available no matter how much money you throw (except if u buy a ticket for a calibrator to fly to you from other country 😅)
The question about getting a TV calibrated to match their Apple Display with True Tone enabled confused me. True Tone adjusts the colour temp of the display based on ambient light (which is always changing).
Sony needs to get those drivers in the backlight from the Bravia 9 and repurpose them to a Tandem OLED that can hit 1000 nits on a
Full white screen.
Give said panel an ultra high refresh rate of like 480 hz in terms of panel scan out so that you get smooth panning motion and that would be a TV I would buy
13:17 You could call it burnout 😂
Where's the Bravia 7 review promised a while back?
Some plasmas used to have something display grey bars instead of black bars...
I had option to display grey bars in old Panasonic plasma.
Re the LG C4 green tint issue, it is there i have seen it for myself when i returned my 2 week old
C3 that suffered from a pink tint.
This is backed up buy another youtuber "The Tech Giant" reviews of the C3 and C4.
It is not a myth, it may only be a few bad panels, but from the A/V Techs i have spoken to
they all said that they have seen it many times, plus LG Oleds suffer from banding which my C3
had out of the box.
So sorry Caleb, i believe what others haved proved to be a known issue.
😂😅 you mad
@@SLICK8116 Mad perhaps, but at least i don't fall for the half truths that youtube
reviewers come out with.
@@SLICK8116he’s right I owned a C4 temporarily. The TV kinda sucks
@@mediumrarepotato7385 all tv now a days suck
The pink tint on your C3 was it on the left side of the screen? Mine is.
16:47 😂 I'm Spent too 😅
I see that Panasonic TV's are finally coming back to Canada and the U.S.. Is Fire TV going to be a problem with these Panasonics?
I say we call the letterbox brightness effect, unburn, or letter bright, that sounds reasonable to me
According to RTINGS, LG’s reply to them was that the green tint is as expected and considered normal for the C4. I suppose this is a known issue to LG
It must be a very low chance to have this. Mine has no green tint at all.
My 21:9 OLED PC monitor has burn-out. It's because I watched a LOT of 16:9 videos on it over the course of 1.5 years. Like, 8+ hours a day, every day. The left and right sections of the screen that normally have black bars are a different shade than everything in the middle 16:9 area.
Easiest way to cook the screen. I have one too and it made it about 2 years until i started to get the "burn in". Its minor because i always avoided it, but since everything is 16:9 you just happen to use the middle more.
I definitely notice it on any transition in a scene that is grey. I also notice it in purple. The blue subpixel is still the weakest link in Oled's.
@@richr161 Burn-in sucks, but for PC gaming, OLED has amazing response time and basically no ghosting, so I will stick with it and buy more OLED gaming monitors in the future. But for anything else, like a TV not used for gaming, I think OLED is inferior to something like LCD and it's all because of the risk of burn-in.
I live in the Detroit metro area and can't find a Calibrator for my LG G3. can anyone point me to a Calibrator? Thank You.
Caleb, you play wonderful videos on TVs in your reviews… pls share links if possible.. many thanks!
I was also looking for links to these.
Pretty high voice. Must sing almost soprano
Do a Bravia 3 review. I am curious about the movie watching experience on it. I don’t care for gaming features so this tv seems up my alley. I’m wanting to replace my 2020 XBR 75x800h.
its not very good and way too expensive for its performance without local dimming and an IPS LCD resulting in absolute terrible contrast
@@MKR3238I prefer an IPS panel and a direct backlit panel. Better colors and a wider viewing angle. It also gives the 80’s and 90’s movies a more cinematic look. That’s perfect for what I am looking for. I’m going with the 75inch Bravia 3 .
@@shanetothebrain thats....a take i guess
You can’t calibrate a tv to show true tune pictures or videos. True tune in of itself has sensors to adjust the color and intensity of your display to match the ambient light to be more natural.
I’ve went from a Neo qled to the lg g4 the picture is great but iam struggling to get used to the deep contrast I don’t know if it’s my settings but say someone is wearing a dark suit in a movie it kind of hurts my eyes it’s so saturated and deeply contrasted that if there is a bright scene behind a dark colour suit or car in a movie burns my eyes have I screwed the settings up please help I dumped 3999 on this tv 🤦🏻♂️
It looks like it’s time for a kitchen makeover!
I have c4 and don’t see any green tint. Looks like issue with few panels.
The black bar opposite of OLED burn-in should be called "burn-out" ! I think all of us TV enthuasiasts are experiencing that.
I can’t bring myself to want an OLED tv unless I win the lottery. Burn in and the general deterioration of the tv over say 5 years plus the backlight dimming. If you could afford a new expensive ass tv every few years maybe but I like to keep my tv until it dies usually especially if it cost a lot.
Anyone know what the Bravia 8 is like.
A UK reviewer known as the Tech Giant mentioned the green tint in his worst of video on the C4
Bright In.
Once again OLED still wins UNLESS you want a BLINDING light picture....
What about burn in due to subtitles?
Subtitles are not static.
I have a 77" LG G4, but it has a noticeable blueish hue on the right side of the screen.
It's most noticeable between 25 - 75% grayscale. And during hockey games.
..
Anyone else have this issue?
LG technician says it's within the limits (of course it is...)...
Opposite of burn-in: Dodge-in
Take from Photography lingo.
Am old enough and my eyes are not what they use to be so I don't think I would see the difference between a good picture and an awesome picture.
Does Caleb actually live where he reviews the TV?
Letterbox burn in is still burn in, its just localized to the whole area that is being used opposed to the bars. Ive seen this on some early 16:9 tube tvs that were used with a lot of 4:3 content, its horrible. But anyway, since you just need to wear down the unused pixels, its sorta fixable.
However, this is really content problem. TV is TV, I personally can NOT stand TV shows that are 21:9. It doesn't make it more "cinematic" it's just wasting TV real estate and makes your product look small. Worse, these stupid streaming services have the 21:9 show delivered in a physical 16:9 video file so there is no easy way to even view it on a 21:9 monitor. This needs to STOP.
Opposite of Burn-in = Too Bright-in
Freeze-Off.... is the oposite of Burn-In
😂😂
the opposite is synthetic led burn out
Isn't the opposite of burn in ur TV lasting forever?
8.9 on any score from rtings is super strong so....
You shouldn't expect any green tint or any colour tint on an oled tv. It should be mentioned and rightfully so.
My LG G1 allows for aspect ratio alteration when viewing letterbox content.I always use it.Movies have may more impact and immersion in 16:9 anyway.Time for things to move forward and for film companies to start filming in 16:9.Most stuff is viewed through streaming services now,so it begs the question,what is the point of letterbox?
I get your point with TV shows, but films are still meant to be seen in the theater and directors and cinematographers choose their aspect ratio for that. If they catered just to people’s TVs, that’s like saying movies should have been shot in 4:3 until around 2006.
It wasnt just rtings, other reviewers on youtube have commented on the green tint of the c4
I have a 48in c4. The green tint is real. I used it as a monitor and its very distracting. When im typing on word i see the green on the peripheral left and right sides. And in the middle its a pink tint. Even my computer icons are noticable with color shift in the left and right sides of the desktop. Its very easy see.. Its just unacceptable. My set is going to be returned.
I have an Lg C2 and I have a lot of burn in on the screen. I won't get another.
bravia 8 review soon 🥺
Let me find out Caleb is a Tems fan 🤣
My problem with the Bravia 9 is that I can get an LG G4 for less money, making it completely pointless.
“Burn-out”
More like unburned, or mismatched burn. lol
The whole burn off or what ever you all end up calling it kind of make me want everything in full screen to kill the TV evenly lol
The opposite of in is out, so it would be burn out? 😅
Thanks for answering my question. I wanted to get the C4 but was concerned about the green tint. I ended up getting the LG C3 instead. I only had it for 3 days. Haven’t noticed the off angle green tint. But what I’ve discovered is that the left side of the screen has a pink tint especially when viewing at the center. It only shows on bright scenes. First noticed it on the opening helicopter scene of Spectre. Not very distracting but it’s there. I did search about this and there are forums on reddit where owners have mentioned it. Some are saying that it is caused by the anti glare coating that LG uses. I will be keeping it for now and decide later if i’ll replace it.
Reverse-burn-in?
It would be called freeze off 💀
Freeze-out, obviously.
Having seen that part of the video now, though, the clear answer is still "burn-in" because the problem isn’t that the black bars are pristine, it's that the video area IS burned in.
Where the hell do you even get calibration?
Unburn-in??