As a nurse in UK, I need to clarify some inaccuracies the guest said. Normal RN positions start from band 5, which is about £27,000++ salary. You have to take into accounts that becoming a RN you have to go through years of university education and gain a practice licence. With the responsibilities you hold, the salary just doesn't match it. You may be able to live comfortably on a band 5 salary as a single person, but if you have family and a mortgage, it is more difficult to live on such salary. But i do agree that the case of having to go to food bank is a bit too extreme. In my opinion, it is the beuraucracies and the poor management from the top that cause the failing of NHS.
As a nurse in UK, I actually not live quite comfortably only with my salary and without my saving. Beside the salary, there are a lot of problems in NHS also. And this is the first time I heard of NHS hiring the staff for medication experiment or something. What a waste of money🤷🏻♂️why don’t they just put more money for clinical use?🤷🏻♂️
back office 簡直另一個世界，nurse, physio, ot 都係band 5 starting囉。。。take home salary 得1600左右，junior doctor starting都係高 band 5 starting 少少咋，take home 咪多200磅比你。真係搵笨..
they have been underpaid for years, for those working for Ambulance Service, commonly they are below band 6, extremely overloaded with extra high work pressures, receiving salaries not able to support their living costs... what they are asking for is just a fair paid.
Some older nurses who have never been to uni called Enrollment nurse Band 4. The nurses who been to uni but only got a diploma called Registered nurse also Band 4. Those been to uni and have a degree also called Registered nurse but Band 5. Then they can work up to higher Band.
Some of the NHS staff abuse the sick leave because they get full paid. Under the NHS scheme, they're entitled to 8 weeks of full pay (less SMP/MA) and 18 weeks of half pay (less SMP/MA), then a further 13 weeks of SMP or MA, leaving 13 weeks of unpaid maternity leave if they wish to take the full 52 weeks of maternity leave. Statutory Maternity Pay ( SMP ) is paid for up to 39 weeks. You get: 90% of your average weekly earnings (before tax) for the first 6 weeks. £156.66 or 90% of your average weekly earnings (whichever is lower) for the next 33 weeks.
Sungzai’s comments on the government attitude is unfair. You have not taken into consideration that the government cannot afford to pay such increase, if they agree to one, the others like ambulances, border etc will continue. The country is in financial trouble. The PM can’t follow people’s wish like Truss without being realistic! They should ask for no increase for a certain period until the government can overcome this harsh time. Frankly, they are not excessively paid, but enough to live through this harsh time, and ask for increase in the future. Furthermore, the increase should consider the merits, not in general!
其實唔係啲護士人工夠唔夠生活嘅問題，係工作量同人工唔成正比，護士嘅工作有幾辛苦同幾厭惡未必係一個文職可以理解。
初級護士月薪 1500磅、仲未扣稅、請問如果要交通、自住、是否夠正常生活 ?
比香港人工、一半都冇 ! 民主自由應該生活越來越好 !!!
As a nurse in UK, I need to clarify some inaccuracies the guest said. Normal RN positions start from band 5, which is about £27,000++ salary. You have to take into accounts that becoming a RN you have to go through years of university education and gain a practice licence. With the responsibilities you hold, the salary just doesn't match it. You may be able to live comfortably on a band 5 salary as a single person, but if you have family and a mortgage, it is more difficult to live on such salary. But i do agree that the case of having to go to food bank is a bit too extreme. In my opinion, it is the beuraucracies and the poor management from the top that cause the failing of NHS.
Agreed, heard NHS management has poor procurement and agency system to employed part time nurse. What a waste!
Agreed, heard NHS management has poor procurement and agency system to employed part time nurse. What a waste!
As a nurse in UK, I actually not live quite comfortably only with my salary and without my saving. Beside the salary, there are a lot of problems in NHS also. And this is the first time I heard of NHS hiring the staff for medication experiment or something. What a waste of money🤷🏻♂️why don’t they just put more money for clinical use?🤷🏻♂️
@@alvinlai8340 Agree, in shortage of resources, this department is redundant.
not only RN, same for doctor, lab scientists etc…should have fair pay considered the years of education and practice license…
我覺得被訪問的人唔係前線職員，唔可以單方面評價前線做嘢，在香港，就算係血姑都唔知病房情況.另外，醫院係要職員病到發燒40度都要正確做工作的地方，程序好重要，同其他工作唔同，所以有事發生時首先考慮程序有否問題，可否增加部分程序減少錯誤可能性。另外，阿仔同屋企人住開支係唔同，有d人一家大細得2-3萬，要租屋咁點過。
我屋企人要我加多段，搵個唔係病房做既，人地病房轉幾多個病人又唔知，返工係坐在度做定行住做既又唔知，會俾人帶來誤解，以為在nhs做就知道入面情況，換燈膽都識開藥咩！
唔好意思，可能反應過度，但係身為醫護人員真係😡😡。
護士由Band 5 starting, compare to other countries. 護士人工屬偏低，而且工作壓力大,每間工作12.5小時,每個每個職級有缺勤同事，也要護士頂上其職位，令工作量大增，工作量同薪酬不正成比。所以根本不是隨便nhs文員所能體會。
我都係係NHS做，不過係做義工。我個ward既同事都係好nice,有時候聽佢哋講d名我都唔知係咩？不過我會偷偷記低然之後自己search。英文差其實唔緊要，只要肯講，肯學就得。平時可以同同事傾多d計，講得多英文自然就會進步。平時可以睇下新聞，可以開著字幕一路聽，一路理解。當你覺得你可以唔睇住字幕都聽得明個陣，代表你英文開始進步，我就係靠呢d慢慢外國人講咩我都聽得明！一齊加油！！！
文職點會知道前線面對嘅嘢呢？
之前又完全未接觸過呢個行頭
更加冇做過其他例如HA嘅醫療體系
完全不能代表什麼
都真係搵嚟講嘅
搵到現役NHS嚟訪問，可以知道多啲入面發生嘅嘢👍
不過如果能夠可以搵到前HA到現役NHS來做個平行比較，可能會更加有力，另外想講一下，養一頭家同一個人使份糧係完全兩回事，所以咁輕易講到話注意理財就夠用呢點，有啲商榷餘地
本人做例子，ha多過16年，黎到英國造返本行義肢矯形技工。
我情況反而係到英國，英國人工起薪多過香港(P&O行業5-6年），香港係會從技工工種，夾硬話你係病人服務助理😂（position: artisan=> pca😢)，要造clinical !
到了英國，義肢還義肢技工，矯形器還矯形技工。clinical 有hca,造事愈玩愈專。
。呢邊就實事求事。
技工可以有機會升經理位🎉
最簡單直接俾所有護士建議，可以就去澳洲。
當香港行返轉頭44個鐘返5天半10日大假起身，人地37個鐘4天半廿幾日大假😂
可能Thomas食住都是父母的
@@kwokwcpochannel1762 o
有啲Agency nurse (打散工) 時薪係NHS staff nurse 嘅三倍，所以好多人都resign，寧願抄散做agency nurse，橫掂日日都唔夠人返工，做agency 實有工開
1~2人開支好難就咁同3~4+人數家庭比，咁樣比較都好唔公平，重有香港過得去都起碼帶左一定量資金，壓力同local完全唔同.....不如真搵返個local NHS staff分享下，等觀眾了解得全面啲.
個人意見，以個人使費，如要交租若慳用是ok的。伹以bank 5的人工，要養一家，4人計，妻子在家照顧兒女，恐怕是不夠用的，還要計劃置業的話
文職點可以代表，前線醫護講嘢，專業就係專業，一個做得耐嘅護士，好多時要幫醫生執手尾，你搵15K,試下養一家四口，又要交租，水電煤，細路返學，就算你唔食飯都唔夠用啦
如果一個人，15K 係香港都應該唔夠用，水電煤食物交通住屋😵
香港15k....都真係唔夠
搵個文員同護士比，真係得啖笑。 1個醫護需要幾多知識同實習先做到，你又知唔知
大佬呀, 你組織家庭係兩個人返工啦，點會只計一個呀, 搞五點咪鬼生小朋友啦
做得唔耐既護士都要幫醫生執手尾啦 😂
謝謝兩位分享，特別给年輕人認識英國工作生活真實狀況，大家可以有心理準備面對的人和事，Thomas英語過多些日子會進步不需擔心，努力不放棄💪💪
嘉賓只係office work , 佢知道有幾多？
點解唔問下喲前線病房員工有幾辛苦！以本人為例做果間系英國Surrey 西南部，每更12.5個鐘，減1個鐘 break ，即系做11.5鐘。每日只有呢兩更。病房每日就係打杖一樣，人手超嚴重短，物資又因為人手要果樣未必一定有系手用！根本人工同工作量無法平衡。加班家常便飯。加班系起碼做多4-5個鐘。有補錢無休息系對病人同員工都無好處。無人番工醫院會揾外面agent ,但唔一定有。好多時兩位Nurse 加兩位care worker 要負責21間病房嘅日常所有所有工作，真係痴晒線⋯⋯今個聖誕日日都要番，只係收早些少，吾加人工，流失會越嚟越多。
我都係clinical前線做
12.5鐘…做足13.14個鐘
每日得20-30分鐘break
人手物資都短缺
有人連oxygen都話無
聖誕新年返足哂
仲要日日俾人呼呼喝喝
有時連HCA都無🤷🏻♂️
支持NHS爭取合理的權益💪💪💪
NHS 醫護，其實好陰公，尤其醫院做那些人，又要輪班，係professional, 人工低過其他國家。做GP 人工又係好低，仲衰過做藍領，讀成六年書，所以好多醫生去了別國執業，人工高好多。話有番尊嚴，因此引入那麽多海外印度醫生！
所以有条件的英国医生去了美国或者其他国家工作。
Registered Nurse係band 5:稅前£27055
同Band3 £21730 其實唔係差好遠
（扣完稅,NI,pension仲要打個7折）
workload同responsibility就差天共地🤷🏻♂️
聽完non clinical staff嘅workload.我都想quit左份clinical嘅工揀份好似Thomas咁hea嘅工😏
所以无人入职registered nurse. 而且RN , 英文及学历有要求。
我女兒在香港做Psychiatric RN, 7年經驗，每月60000元，英國做了半年，只能band 5, 要多一年才夠膽apply band 6
其實每個崗位都唔同，如果覺得受委屈可以諗下轉，但轉完會唔會真係心目中一樣又係另一件事
back office 簡直另一個世界，nurse, physio, ot 都係band 5 starting囉。。。take home salary 得1600左右，junior doctor starting都係高 band 5 starting 少少咋，take home 咪多200磅比你。真係搵笨..
@@angelng7922 上次個ward爆covid.瀨左嘢.病假返嚟仲要填form問點可以避免…我一開始想填唔呼吸，但其實係避無可避.所以直接填no🤷🏻♂️
they have been underpaid for years, for those working for Ambulance Service, commonly they are below band 6, extremely overloaded with extra high work pressures, receiving salaries not able to support their living costs... what they are asking for is just a fair paid.
鬆仔今集訪問嘅NHS嘅朋友，跟本同醫護做嘅嘢係兩回事，工作量又唔同，唔可以咁樣黎比較收入夠唔夠用！
本身個訪問去討論下NHS back office in general 既工作環境同香港人入職NHS back office 工作體驗係無可口非；但扯到NHS前線要爭取加人工既幅度同罷工，加上受訪嘉賓似乎唔係咁太了解NHS前線員工既真實苦況…真係扯得太遠喇….
建議鬆仔搵多少少唔同NHS工種嘅人做訪問。個perspective 會全面d。因為受訪者都唔係全面清楚frontline 嘅情況
NHS人工比起其他國家都低, 根本付出與收入不成正比
雖然都係在醫療體系入面工作，前線醫護跟文職比較，無論工作上，責任上，所𠄘受的壓力是完全不同的啊！
前線醫護是在爭取拉近薪酬和負出的距離。
我支持前線爭取應得的加薪。 我之前都係private care 裡面的文職，係有限的資源，加薪應該只限前線。
Some older nurses who have never been to uni called Enrollment nurse Band 4. The nurses who been to uni but only got a diploma called Registered nurse also Band 4. Those been to uni and have a degree also called Registered nurse but Band 5. Then they can work up to higher Band.
NHS 護士係Band 5 開始，要做多年，爭取升級，才可做band 6。
Band 5 係27055 至 32934。很有能力才能升級做band 6
訪問好精彩，香港人加油！
好好嘅題材👍🏻多謝鬆仔
其實Thomas係文職 佢根本都唔理解點解護士要罷工
對比其他國家 英國護士人工係特別低 完全唔合比例
而NHS對自己嘅員工就俾低pay 唔肯加人工 但就俾高價錢請出面嘅agency 泥cover人手 完全唔明咩玩法
另外 NHS嘅醫院質素好參差 唔急嘅服務佢係做得幾好 緊急服務就真係自救多福啦大家 我覺得仲差過HA
利申NHS Band 5 Staff nurse
PS
我返工觀察所得 大部分本地人係你面前口講唔緊要 但其實背後會同其他人唱你
老實講就算加足19%人工，都係低唔會留到人。輕輕鬆鬆做agency 仲好啦，做nhs長工又人工低又辛苦。
@@adalam3591 yaaaaaa exactly! Agency 又唔洗孭飛 返返下又可以走左去
Some of the NHS staff abuse the sick leave because they get full paid.
Under the NHS scheme, they're entitled to 8 weeks of full pay (less SMP/MA) and 18 weeks of half pay (less SMP/MA), then a further 13 weeks of SMP or MA, leaving 13 weeks of unpaid maternity leave if they wish to take the full 52 weeks of maternity leave.
Statutory Maternity Pay ( SMP ) is paid for up to 39 weeks. You get: 90% of your average weekly earnings (before tax) for the first 6 weeks. £156.66 or 90% of your average weekly earnings (whichever is lower) for the next 33 weeks.
RN 訓練，工作量及性質唔同，唔可以同文職比較。不過嘉賓分享入職經過，也很難得!👍🏻
咁缺人係因為做Clinical position好似醫院診所
藥房等等有好多責任同壓力，面對好多生生死死，但係人工其實比文職或者甚至做超級市場只係多少少，有啲低職位啲做超級市場仲高人工，既然係咁咁點解要咁辛苦，又要輪夜班又要咁大壓力又咁忙又缺人，依家好多Staff寧願
quit咗轉做partime, 做locum/agency staff,甚至轉行。 做得clinical 工既人點都有啲使命感， 無論係幾有使命感佢不停比人take advantage 都有爆既一日， 而家就係咁
依个哥仔真好彩！英文水平好一般都做到brand 3, 我曾经看见一个香港人连续见3份文职工喺Nhs文员，都failed, 皆因当日有很多白人及黑人（native speakers ）同佢争。我本人亦interview过一个brand 2位，但讲明要英文很好，且面试时,仲要3人坐board, 好彩过关，回相起都一额汗 😂😂😂
年輕有加分？😂
NHS見工面試唔容易
I believe protocol and systems also apply in Hong Kong, especially government organizations. Not country specific.
佢都冇考慮到租金，一家人開支
Thomas 講嘢有調有理又清楚❤反而主持人講得比較多😊不過這是鬆的特色😊
Band 6已經係護士長啦，band 5先係普通護士
香港人加油❤
Nurse associate 係band 4
Registered Nurse 應該係band 5開始
初期唔適應係有困難加油過兩年包你掂👍
Thomas, thank you for sharing 👍😀
鬆仔嘅 "移英港人訪問系列" 好吸引
睇完第1個訪問已經好期待鬆仔播第2個訪問
果然好吸引好似小說咁(要追囉🤣)
多謝鬆仔今次Manchester之旅嘅收穫
真心多謝你嘅努力👍✌️💪💪💪
問呢個 Thomas, 唔係 ward staff , 問佢嘥氣
Thomas應該唔洗比租水電煤車費油費，
咁佢夠用係正常既
年青人加油呀！💪💪
好似我咁，剛畢業痴屋企 港紙 9千蚊都夠洗，一年加5% 都覺得好開心。 現在要養家搵三萬幾四萬都唔多夠，要定期轉工加返15-20% 先追到通脹同小朋友洗費。 只可以講受訪者未去到人生另一個階段，不過相信佢係真誠的。
睇到THOMAS話工作開會英文好多唔明，想請問咁嘅情況有咩方法可以見得成份工🙇
我感到像壟斷，一間大公司，每年加薪比其他細公司少，一年一年下來已大幅低於其他多國的公司，對比自己國家的公司薪酬也超低。現在員工反抗罷工，顧主態度係你做就做吾就算，退休金不要了？對顧客錢已收（税）也不用理會！
Too underpaid among Australia, Canada , US and HK.
I like Thomas sharing. Thank you, Zong cai and Thomas :)
Support NHS staff
very touching. add oil Thomas.
Excellent interview!!
人手不足及資源短缺,其實加薪都唔會有幫助?是否起多些醫院請多些人...買多D資源?但係加完薪之後,會否加價?
其實我地都黎左3年
但我除左系公司近來先有香港人
才識到香港友
我地一般朋友都系當地人
曾想參與但最後朋友話要起我facebook底
最後我當然冇參與
英國人大多包容量高
冇年齡 國籍企視
多謝鬆仔 Thomas分享
Like to the kid interviewed.
我都系NHS 外圍工作,同手術室有關, 可申請退全家NHS 費, 半年一次, D野唔錯得, 又見血超多野記先得10磅多一個月, 做倉都比我多😅
白內障手術係香港排幾年，英國排幾個月算好快!
我家人因為咁導致急性青光眼如果一兩日唔做手術會失明，醫院仲叫佢排成年，最後私家醫院6萬做完，香港地排隊應該死
Support nhs staff
❤ 做左一個多月走 同事送ps4
係🐠港，簡直天’慌‘ 夜譚
祝福Tommy 前程似錦🎉
香港唔被人話你已經算好
做依d訪問十份好
多謝鬆仔多元化節目。
受訪者講得好好，請繼續加油！💪🤗
🎉謝謝🎉鬆仔同Thomas
😂agreed ! Too many tax & high tax rate in uk, should have to improve
聽佢講完同埋睇咗的comments 覺得NHS俾個薪酬簡直係不可接受。真的需要大幅提高 提高100%都不為過。
鍾意呢類型嘅訪問
聽上去Thomas 都正面開朗喎。人生滿挑戰，成功在嘗試呀馬。加油。
謝謝分享
i would like to know more about working life at NHS.
謝謝分享，工作愉快！
支持你啊Thomas
可唔可以分享下點解唔做返測量🙈
When the nurse take 1 week sick days, do they get full pay during that 1 week?
如果受訪者真係想喺目前崗位有進一步發展，就請努力理解自己職位的要求吧。
感覺受訪者唔太明白喺醫院做藥物研發係咩一回事，先至咁易話「受protocol限制所以效率低下」。
要拿高點人工確是需要進一步的實力，祝Thomas新年進步！
萬五蚊 一星期返38個鐘我ok😂香港公立醫院做的白內障手術最短係等9個月最長係22個月😂
支持鬆仔 良心頻道！
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最近boxing day 果日陪家人倫敦Euston 覆診，去度即刻有得睇🤲🏽
早晨鬆仔感謝分享
NHS Health Records Clerk路過講聲Hi!
Hi 我都是 NHS health record clerk
香港排做白內障，應該耐過英國好好好多？
Sungzai’s comments on the government attitude is unfair. You have not taken into consideration that the government cannot afford to pay such increase, if they agree to one, the others like ambulances, border etc will continue. The country is in financial trouble. The PM can’t follow people’s wish like Truss without being realistic!
They should ask for no increase for a certain period until the government can overcome this harsh time.
Frankly, they are not excessively paid, but enough to live through this harsh time, and ask for increase in the future. Furthermore, the increase should consider the merits, not in general!
The UK government has paid a lot to Ukraine, that is thrown into the sea.
@@smwong6817 Their Brexit has lost the backup of EU, now they have to wag their tail to US.
同香港既HA一樣,寧願補假都唔會補水
補水要比稅
@@alicekong1017 都好過冇了,之前爆得勁個時HA額外出既特別補水都會照扣MPF(唔記得叫乜,已經離開左HA)
宜家NI顧主加顧員供款占左人工20幾%，NHS要加19%人工，咁NI要比幾多？
thanks for sharing
15k要做幾年先加返上30k?
咁我想請問放病假扣人工嗎？謝謝
I think this person is not capable to speak for NHS in terms of his level and experience.
就算英文唔係咁好， 老細都畀咁多機會佢上堂學野， 我覺得佢老細好好啊
今隻的真實故事分享好有用，多謝晒
香港年青人好高質，叻仔，加油
Thomas 加油
可以的話，錄音再返重聽去筆錄
受訪者自己都係£1500一個月，仲話夠用？我地如果一個家庭邊夠用呀？又要交租，車費，council tax,水電煤，仲有飲食，買藥⋯
其實好睇你係點消費, 住share house 一定夠
年青人努力
你一個人生活無所謂，33K一家四口租樓/供樓都好真係搞唔掂！
呢個人工如果無屋企人資助，真係生活到咩？😯
雖然已退休，我都想入NHS...💕
據知香港政府醫生有$100k以上(月薪計)
Junior doctor : HKd 70k 一月。如果到consultant , 多英国医生税前多一倍。如果税后……
Band 6 33k 都五夠過活…. 咁人地20k 都過活到…
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Hi our youngster add oil! so happy for you to have excellent ex-colleagues!