itsaWasteof yea crowd slept on it and he was pissed, as he should've been. But I agree, breaking it down slower would have been better, glad he didn't repeat it, I think it's lame when battlers repeat their lines to try to get more of a reaction the second go-around. But, just my opinion.
12 years later, Fresco clearly got robbed. AND mind body and soul? One of the best rebuttholes ever. And fresco is ridiculous with rebuttals. He has some crazy ones in his other battles.
HipHopAus holy shit.. some of the best content I've ever heard.. not just from fresco but from anybody... frescos 3 rounds were straight fire bro.. really wish we would hear more from him and that being said.. bring back SK Soul Khan as well!
Honestly best flip ever if it's a real freestyle flip the way it seems delivery shouldn't even matter it was a lyrical hallocaust. Crowd just didn't get it
It's literally the story of this entire industry. Battle rappers who say clever lyrical shit get slept on, people who have silly little gimmicks get praised.
mind bod and soul line was slept on ... eventhough im a big fan of soul , that fresco rebuttal might be the most slept on in battle rap ... damn that was straight clever !
Soul Khan and Dumbfoundead saved a lot of careers by respecftully stepping down from battling full time. Honestly, those are two of the best in my opinion. Don't forget Pat Stay and Kid Twist, all those dude amazing.
I really just don't like fresco but you are right. His battle with rone is a prime example on both counts of bars that deserved a bigger reaction than they got.
+Brad Whitson Agree. They look only at his appearance. How come any white guy that raps has to act like a total sociopath or a dangerous street person? As if white dudes don't have the rhymes and delivery to be the best lyricists of all time. Shakespere. Socrates. Joyce. Bukowski. All white, all spit better than all of these punks put together.
The "mind, body and soul" flip is still the best flip I've ever heard. He robbed it of its power by ending his verse with "splash" though, the crowd thought it was weak.
He should have slowed it down and emphasized each syllable, so that the crowd could have digested it faster. Shit was still sick though. Whether freestyled or quickly premeditated, that's a complex rebuttal.
To this day, I don't think people understood how sick Fresco's 'he talked about yoga, but I wouldn't even mind bodying Soul' (Yoga- mind body and soul) was. My comment about it 5years ago got lost in the ether. But considering that that was a rebuttal it was hard. I consider it one of the classic GrindTime bar.
wtf? you broke that bar down like it might be over heads or something? LOL that is a straightforward bar that wouldn't go over a 5 year old head. Only truly dumb people think they are catching bars like that one and other people are missing it, anyone with any basic understanding of bars would NEVER miss that double entendre and you pointing it out in that manner is irrefutable evidence that your a SIMPLE MINDED basic ass lame.
+M Breezy Back in this era lines like that were pretty rare actually, so yea it did go over heads. And yes it is one of the most slept on and sickest rebuttals of all time. If you can't agree with that then you clearly weren't watching battle rap when this came out and you're probably new as fuck.
Nah man i have actually attended grindtime, kotd, and dont flop events. If you think that was an off the top rebuttal then new or not, your a fucking idiot..... Frescos dope man, the bar was cool, but imo your a fuckin idiot if it went over your head. Period.
steven smith I hate it whenever a battler is worshipped and then the battle reactions react accordingly. Rappers like Khan, Shotty etc. Khan is good but over rated big time. He has no schemes, no complicated bars, all just funny one liners. That's fine but don't tell me he's a legend.
Hawkeye 1982 The thing is, he _is_ a legend in his own right; but he's more like a legend for the demographic of casual/lightweight battlerap fans. But you're right, even for Grind Time and the earlier days of battlerap, he was really behind on the wordplay element
Lord Leo Yeah I think your right. I don't profess to be an expert in battle rap but I've watched alot of it and it is obvious to me that he is way behind in his wordplay.
one of my all time favorite battles, I'm a huge soul khan fan but i also am a huge fresco fan and frescos bars did get slept on.. i think if they would have done it on neutral ground like anywhere but ny then fresco would have had a way better chance.. my opinion fresco 2-1.. he said something about yoga but i don't even mind bodying soul, easy.. best rebuttal in my opinon period
Soul was good, but them gay jokes are getting pretty old. Really think Fresco got this from the project line to the yoga flip, can't believe he was heavily slept on. Easy bake oven line was mad funny too. Come to think of it, Fresco gets slept on a lot haha. Dude's a beast, shame he doesn't get the respect and attention he deserves. Hats off to both rappers.
Everyone was on Soul Khans Jock after this in which my opinion was a disrespecting line to his own people. Not sure why the crowd leaned toward Khan after that line. They overhyped EVERYTHING after. Even the basic shit.
@@jaymesgonzales5995 its a crescendo of energy, the crowd is getting more and more hyped up, then ending on that line Is why it got the reaction it did lol Diz would do that in early early GrindTime battles too, the clearest example was Dizaster vs Illmac When u have THAT MUCH energy, it’s infectious, even if u don’t think the line by itself is amazing, the energy and momentum make it hit super hard in the building. It’s a performing artist/entertainer type deal
DJrezafication lemme hear SK vs anyone man! Bring the man back.. conceited was the one battle that never happened .. SK called him out bunch of times but con ducked him
this is probably one of my favorite battles. it is funny AF!!!! "SShhhh...you had me at Real Deal" i could watch this over and over an still laugh. it was a close one. soul got it by a pinch. but fresco's last line was epic
Every now and then I quote "when i grab the glock, your dad gets shot. And your moms gets pregnant when the magnum pop" lmao Fresco had some crazy one liners
+RHAPSO DEE lots of battlers share what theyre gonna use with friend battlers before, watched the PPV today and a lot of people had reviews of diz's bars before they went lol
RHAPSO DEE you think these guys don't recite they bars before the battle?!?! Like they don't just rap in front of mirrors my dude.. he probably spit his rounds a few times to someone he considers a friend
People must be smoking crack or just plain hatin on khan. Fresco did his thing, but khan just was a little bit better. Khan is consistent. Fresco isn't always on point
Just gonna describe that mind Body and soul thing. He ruined it when he said splash but that was one of the best lines I had ever heard. Yoga is usually associated with mind body and soul and he said I don't do yoga but I don't mind bodying soul. Bodying is killing so yeah figure that out. Sick line
+HipHopAus Wow. I've been saying this for years. I like Khan but people overhyped him HUGE in this battle. "You just got burnt like my people in the camp" is the line I use as the most overhyped line in rapping history. And I do like Khan. But I've been saying for years Fresco won this battle. Seems like its finally trending in my original direction.
sickkk battle... the yoga flip was crazy & both came super tight. Don't know if Fresco gets the credit he deserves; Soul Khan may have edged it but both were flawless
Fresco's last line "He said yoga but i dont mind bodyin Soul"
That was probly the sickest line in the battle.
Ruined it by ending it with "splash"
He said yoga but i dont even Mind body and soul (Mind bodying soul)
Prolly the illest flip in rap battle history imo
Splash
Agreed.. But I think he should've done a slow it down cause that went over so bad
itsaWasteof
yea crowd slept on it and he was pissed, as he should've been. But I agree, breaking it down slower would have been better, glad he didn't repeat it, I think it's lame when battlers repeat their lines to try to get more of a reaction the second go-around. But, just my opinion.
" You hear CH the A-R lie Clips with a shell in his brain
CH A-R lie Clips I was spellin ya name" - Tay Roc
This shit is still dope
12 years later, Fresco clearly got robbed.
AND mind body and soul? One of the best rebuttholes ever. And fresco is ridiculous with rebuttals. He has some crazy ones in his other battles.
it’s I don’t even mind bodying soul as in mind, body, and soul
no shirt shitlock@@rooksman64
Rebuttholes? Hahaha
Im 34 years old , why did I fall out laughing over the spelling error “rebuttholes” smh
Ironic Soul Khan spent nearly the whole battle talking about Freshco's sexuality and he ended up being......nevermind! 😂
I came here to see this comment 😂🫡
That mind bodying soul rebuttal might be the most slept on rebuttal in a battle ever
"He said Yoga, but i dont even mind bodying soul."
fresco's amazing yoga rebuttle was completely slept on
Soul is still better.
Very
That shit was FIYAH son
it wasn't completely slept on but definitely semi-overlooked
Top 5 greatest rebuttals all time
Caustic looks like Charron does now.
Yooo 💀
😆
He looks stoned af lmao
Came here 6 years to later to comment that only Charron has thrown a actual punch in a battle while Caustic got walked tf down vs Bigg K lol
"could tell he toss salad by how this italian dressing" lmao
Almost 7 years later and that "JEWMINATI" yell still cracks me xD
lmao
Ive watched this battle a dozen times.... I finally caught that, and yes that shit funny!
9 years now. Totally forgot it was coming. I died.
"he said yoga but i dont even MIND BODYING SOUL" was sooooooo slept on.. wow, one of the dopest rebuttles ive ever heard
"He said Yoga, but I don't even MIND, BODY, AND SOUL, (Mind bodying Soul) " was best line of the battle what a fucking dope flip.
So cool to see them so early in their careers. 2 legends
The mind Bodying Soul bar was hands down the most underrated bar in all of Grindtime.
Fresco vs The Saurus should be a classic...
called it
+striker78900 Thesaurus was ok but fresco turned into a god
That battle is when I realized I was sleeping on Fresco. Easily one of my favourite battles solely cause of Fresco
HipHopAus holy shit.. some of the best content I've ever heard.. not just from fresco but from anybody... frescos 3 rounds were straight fire bro.. really wish we would hear more from him and that being said.. bring back SK Soul Khan as well!
If there was ever a super sayain level fresco reached it that day.
I like how at 11:10 soul khan says frescos been fisted & fresco has the biggest smile on his face giving a thumbs up lmfao
that 'mind bodyin' Soul' line is so sick but lacks the right delivery
Matthew Field I agree, back then his set up wasn't honed. But nowadays Fresco fucking kills it.
I agree was dope but that splash bit ruined it in my opinion
If you still active who could deliver it better?
I think it's more so that people dunno Khan is Soul Khan. Even Khan dropped soul lined that went under the radar I feel.
Honestly best flip ever if it's a real freestyle flip the way it seems delivery shouldn't even matter it was a lyrical hallocaust. Crowd just didn't get it
Watching again in 2019.
It's too bad no one really got Fresco's last line. It was easily one of the best that he spit.
that anyone ever spit
he freestyled that in a live battle
It's literally the story of this entire industry. Battle rappers who say clever lyrical shit get slept on, people who have silly little gimmicks get praised.
mind bod and soul line was slept on ... eventhough im a big fan of soul , that fresco rebuttal might be the most slept on in battle rap ... damn that was straight clever !
That mind body and soul line has to be the most underrated flip in all of battle rap like how did the crowd not go crazy when they heard that?
I love both of these because they don't pretend to be something they aren't and still kill it
It's kind of funny how this comment hasn't aged too well🤣
Fresco doesn’t pretend to be a gangster? lol
THANK YOU, I THOUGHT NO1 ELSE RECOGNISED HOW FUCKING PERFECT THAT FLIP WAS!!!
Soul Khan and Dumbfoundead saved a lot of careers by respecftully stepping down from battling full time. Honestly, those are two of the best in my opinion. Don't forget Pat Stay and Kid Twist, all those dude amazing.
The four of them are my favorites. When it comes to systematically destroying people though, Pat Stay is a god.
Lol no, them dudes played out
So... the white dudes.
@@n26061983 Dumb is Korean-american and Soul is Jewish champ.
And now khan is back in nov
Every single battle I see Fresco in the crowd sleeps on his bars. It's a shame that they go over a lot of people's heads
I really just don't like fresco but you are right. His battle with rone is a prime example on both counts of bars that deserved a bigger reaction than they got.
No doubt. Soul murked him
+Brad Whitson Agree. They look only at his appearance. How come any white guy that raps has to act like a total sociopath or a dangerous street person? As if white dudes don't have the rhymes and delivery to be the best lyricists of all time. Shakespere. Socrates. Joyce. Bukowski. All white, all spit better than all of these punks put together.
I think fresco win. It's classic
"mind bodyin soul" goat flip
Hebrew part killed me
The "mind, body and soul" flip is still the best flip I've ever heard. He robbed it of its power by ending his verse with "splash" though, the crowd thought it was weak.
He should have slowed it down and emphasized each syllable, so that the crowd could have digested it faster. Shit was still sick though. Whether freestyled or quickly premeditated, that's a complex rebuttal.
To this day, I don't think people understood how sick Fresco's 'he talked about yoga, but I wouldn't even mind bodying Soul' (Yoga- mind body and soul) was.
My comment about it 5years ago got lost in the ether. But considering that that was a rebuttal it was hard. I consider it one of the classic GrindTime bar.
wtf? you broke that bar down like it might be over heads or something? LOL that is a straightforward bar that wouldn't go over a 5 year old head. Only truly dumb people think they are catching bars like that one and other people are missing it, anyone with any basic understanding of bars would NEVER miss that double entendre and you pointing it out in that manner is irrefutable evidence that your a SIMPLE MINDED basic ass lame.
M Breezy Well said!
It was a decent name flip, not the impressive. Check out pass vs hollow those are impressive flips.
+M Breezy Back in this era lines like that were pretty rare actually, so yea it did go over heads. And yes it is one of the most slept on and sickest rebuttals of all time. If you can't agree with that then you clearly weren't watching battle rap when this came out and you're probably new as fuck.
Nah man i have actually attended grindtime, kotd, and dont flop events. If you think that was an off the top rebuttal then new or not, your a fucking idiot..... Frescos dope man, the bar was cool, but imo your a fuckin idiot if it went over your head. Period.
12:35 fresco edged it out but soul Kahn came harder . Pause
What time is that at?
This was a dope ass battle, Frescos shit was slept on so hard tho.
steven smith I hate it whenever a battler is worshipped and then the battle reactions react accordingly. Rappers like Khan, Shotty etc. Khan is good but over rated big time. He has no schemes, no complicated bars, all just funny one liners. That's fine but don't tell me he's a legend.
Hawkeye 1982 The thing is, he _is_ a legend in his own right; but he's more like a legend for the demographic of casual/lightweight battlerap fans. But you're right, even for Grind Time and the earlier days of battlerap, he was really behind on the wordplay element
Fresco really had the only "bar" of this battle (mind bodying Soul)
Lord Leo Yeah I think your right. I don't profess to be an expert in battle rap but I've watched alot of it and it is obvious to me that he is way behind in his wordplay.
fresco's last splash was actually incredible and went completely over most heads
shhh you had me at real deal
JC MELLO 😆
Proverbs 25:3
The heaven for height, and the earth for depth, and the heart of kings is unsearchable.
@7:30 why is caustic simultaneously mouthing Soul Khan’s lines???? Did he write for him or sumn?
They all write together
@@themondoshow a lot of it people just rap their rounds in front of those they trust
Not everything is ghost written lol
Soul Khan's creativity is genius.
Yes, Soul Khan came out of the closet. I would love to see a rematch with Fresco now 😂
"He said yoga but I don't even fuckin mind bodyin soul"
That was FREESTYLE. Smh Fresco's an animal.
Soul khan's second round was solid and flawless
"You've never been in a fist fight but you have been fisted"
Holy fuck, he's good.
one of my all time favorite battles, I'm a huge soul khan fan but i also am a huge fresco fan and frescos bars did get slept on.. i think if they would have done it on neutral ground like anywhere but ny then fresco would have had a way better chance.. my opinion fresco 2-1.. he said something about yoga but i don't even mind bodying soul, easy.. best rebuttal in my opinon period
"You just got burned like my people in the camps" lmfao
HAHAHAHA he fuckin dissed his own heritage
I just watched this again in 2020. Aged well and just caught Rock from BCC in the judging...legend
Kahn has bats for days that are just plain funny and witty
Soul was good, but them gay jokes are getting pretty old. Really think Fresco got this from the project line to the yoga flip, can't believe he was heavily slept on. Easy bake oven line was mad funny too. Come to think of it, Fresco gets slept on a lot haha. Dude's a beast, shame he doesn't get the respect and attention he deserves. Hats off to both rappers.
Fresco had the one of the most PAUSE worthy first rounds in history.....looking back
DAMMMN!
"I don't even mind bodyin' Soul. (Mind body and soul)
GOD DAMN THAT FREESTYLE
Im glad someone else recognized that. ALOT of slept on lines in this battle. Every line hit the target.
Who’s here after Soul Khan came out of the closet?
"You just got burned like my people at the camps" - done
ehhh self deprecating line
I think it was gassed
Everyone was on Soul Khans Jock after this in which my opinion was a disrespecting line to his own people. Not sure why the crowd leaned toward Khan after that line. They overhyped EVERYTHING after. Even the basic shit.
wasnt that hard...
@@jaymesgonzales5995 its a crescendo of energy, the crowd is getting more and more hyped up, then ending on that line
Is why it got the reaction it did lol
Diz would do that in early early GrindTime battles too, the clearest example was Dizaster vs Illmac
When u have THAT MUCH energy, it’s infectious, even if u don’t think the line by itself is amazing, the energy and momentum make it hit super hard in the building.
It’s a performing artist/entertainer type deal
He said yoga but i dont even Mind body and soul (Mind bodying soul), that line made it to the joe budden vs hollow da don trailer son !
"Imma take Joe's soul out his body"
What a great battle, we miss the old soul khan
13 years later and that "hey hey hey" still got me rolling 😂
Id like to see Soul vs Diz
DJrezafication lemme hear SK vs anyone man! Bring the man back.. conceited was the one battle that never happened .. SK called him out bunch of times but con ducked him
Ur dream came true but it turned out to be a nightmare, Soul Khan needs to be remembered like this.
8:15 soul shat all over fresco
Soul is King
"he said yoga but i dont even mind body and soul" haha that was a pretty dope rebuttal
I love coming back to this fire classic I remember being in the building Soul khan 30 Clear
wow impressed by fresco i usually don't think hes good but he did pretty good on this battle.Soul Khan won though
"I don't even mind body'n soul" Fresco shoulda won just for that flip!
Has Soul Khan ever lost a battle?
This one
this is probably one of my favorite battles. it is funny AF!!!! "SShhhh...you had me at Real Deal" i could watch this over and over an still laugh. it was a close one. soul got it by a pinch. but fresco's last line was epic
Poison Pen was the only one that reacted to that mind bodying soul line. Fresco in 3.
5-3???? Soul Khan actually lost sum battles???
Cortez, Dirtbag Dan, Unorthodox Phrases
he destroyed cortez tho
Honestly, Unorthodox Phrases is the only dude who touched him... the other losses were controversial decisions. Soul Khan was a monster
I think soul khan killed it
Every now and then I quote "when i grab the glock, your dad gets shot. And your moms gets pregnant when the magnum pop" lmao Fresco had some crazy one liners
"He said yoga, but I don't even fucking mind bodying soul!" Gotta be one of the best rebuttles of all time. wow.
Soul khan gives the best punchlines he WON FO SHO
Soul Khan 2-1, Fresco had bars.
"I dug that shit."- fresco
Fresco won - "mind body and soul" was the line of the battle
yeah that crowd didnt understand that line for sure! one of the best bars ive heard
Nah he had dope lines but Soul Kahn straight up nasty. He won this.
How is caustic behind soul lip syncing his verses? Did he ghost write for him ?
fresco got this. that "i dont mins bodyn soul" was a crazy ass rebuttal to that yoga line.
Caustic clearly lipping Khan's lines at 7:48 and on. Odd.
He even does it earlier if you watch close enough. Really weird
+RHAPSO DEE lots of battlers share what theyre gonna use with friend battlers before, watched the PPV today and a lot of people had reviews of diz's bars before they went lol
RHAPSO DEE you think these guys don't recite they bars before the battle?!?! Like they don't just rap in front of mirrors my dude.. he probably spit his rounds a few times to someone he considers a friend
That always tripped me out
they prolly rehearsed together
Soul is a living legend, Fresco is just awkward.
check Fresco vs The Saurus
People must be smoking crack or just plain hatin on khan. Fresco did his thing, but khan just was a little bit better. Khan is consistent. Fresco isn't always on point
Fresco was dope here though?
Soul K killed it at Hey hey hey
home boy rollin a blunt in the back ground during judging! hahahaha
soul khans flow woulnd't work in this day and age rapping shits kinda whack
Thanks for watching!
Grind Time Now no problem
Josh Guerrero i hate designer
Josh Guerrero He never even mentioned him rapping on a beat. He clearly meant that Soul wouldn't last in nowadays battles.
thank you smh dudes a dum dum
Fresco was too ahead of his time. He clearly won by today's standards.
Agreed
fresco should have won if he hadnt finished with splash in my opinion
This is one of my favorite battles
I miss this soul khan. Before he became a social justice warrior
Who came here because of the sk and diz battle. Sk3-0
lol khan got destroyed so bad, it was embarrassing.
He said yoga, but I don't even mind bodyin' Soul...damn...that bar alone Fresco 3-0
These gay jokes getting tiring
this battle was 6 years ago bro.
soul khan had me in stitches in the first round!!
That mind, body and soul line might be the most slept on rebuttal in rap battle history lol
Just gonna describe that mind Body and soul thing. He ruined it when he said splash but that was one of the best lines I had ever heard. Yoga is usually associated with mind body and soul and he said I don't do yoga but I don't mind bodying soul. Bodying is killing so yeah figure that out. Sick line
But he always says splash... That's his time
Fresco easy
lmaoooooo soul sounded exactly like drake at 7:11 "HEY HEY HEY" lmaooooooooo i was rollin so hard
im not gonna lie... that line gave me straight goosebumps. That ish was real.
this is the only battle i can watch soul khan without skipping to soul khan.
I remember when lines like "I don't even mind bodyin' Soul" made the whole place erupt like crazy.
soul kahns delivery BLOWS
Fresco took this - might not have thought so when I first saw this battle nearly 5 years ago, but it's pretty clear now
+HipHopAus
Soul sounds corny in retrospect.
Fresco bodied him.
+NeverOwned true watching him years later shits kinda weak
+HipHopAus Wow. I've been saying this for years. I like Khan but people overhyped him HUGE in this battle. "You just got burnt like my people in the camp" is the line I use as the most overhyped line in rapping history. And I do like Khan. But I've been saying for years Fresco won this battle. Seems like its finally trending in my original direction.
+Don Corleone
The truth always comes out, its just a matter of time.
this is my favorite soul khan battle ever...
"I'm like a MAD. (M80)." Is definitely the most slept on line by far to be honest.. This is top 3 though underrated bars.
So much respect for Soul Khan !
"He said Yoga, but I don't even fuckin MIND BODYING SOUL, splash"
Much better.
Mind bodying soul line was 100 percent written just worked out in his favor
sickkk battle... the yoga flip was crazy & both came super tight. Don't know if Fresco gets the credit he deserves; Soul Khan may have edged it but both were flawless