I loved my fold 4 but at some point it stopped opening all the way and had to send it to Samsung. I was left with no phone for two weeks. I jumped shipped to S23Ultra and kinda regretted it. Foldables breath new life into mobile phones and that fold 4 honestly was the best time I spent with a phone in years!
Owned Fold 1, then 2, then sold it, then back to Fold 2, and honestly speaking, I don't see myself going back anytime soon. Love foldables, they transformed the smartphone experience for me at a time when I thought phones are all the same. I considered upgrading but trying both Fold 3 and 4, I did not see myself utilizing the additional features, maybe if Samsung brings something different to the foldables, sadly the Fold 5 is not there yet...
I regretted using the s22 over my fold 3 and just decided that I need 1 regular phone and 1 fold just in case I have to send it in and to keep it away from scenarios like when I need to go to the beach or do something outdoorsy. So now I have the s23 ultra and the fold 4 and will upgrade to the fold 5 but not the s24 ultra.
I have played with a fold4, wanted it, got s23u because of the sd chip in the UK and currently using it, love it. But I put preorder in for fold5 to hopefully arrive this week, because I'm ready for a new way to use my phone and have a ton us uses for the 2 screen layout.
Fortunately the inner screens on foldables are very safe. Not only from being closed most times but they have that lip around the bezel. Most breaks I've seen are the crack down the middle and the occasional grain of sand getting in and somehow punching it out from underneath.
I know a lot of people working in IT who use the fold to make accessing computers remotely more convenient. None of those guys have had issues. I know someone with a family who is out and about a lot and their fold didn't hold up as well, but they purchased insurance. Which I guess he knew he would need in that case, cus usually most people know the insurance isn't really worth it. I guess because of the perception more people might also insure foldables. They're expensive too, so I get it. If you have that kinda money, you probably can afford the insurance and have peace of mind. Although I'm looking to get a refurb foold 4 cus they are getting CHEAP.
I used my Fold 4 without a case for a year with no issues. Like you mentioned about yours. At times it would not open all the way. I have been impressed with how durable it has been. Now I am using the Pixel Fold. I am ready to see how well it will last for the next year.
I'm using a z3 fold from day 1. No cover or screen protector used. Many many floor drops (more than 20 over the years). External screen Corners got chips damage, small cracks and even small shards and pieces of screen broken away. Eventually lines running on external screen on one side but screen still fully functions, is usable. Screen video and images are still fully visible etc and touch still fully works. Internal screen, factory fitted screen protector started peeling away after 12/18/months, so I completely peeled it away. Internal screen has one dead pixel other than that fully fuctional. Phone is still superfast, fun to use and still going.
I have a Fold 2 and a good solution for dust I found is using a cloth pouch (the ones used for glasses), and no issues with dust at all. It doesn't add bulk or weight, cheap, I got a pack of 10 and replace the pouch whenever I feel It ran its course. However, it will not save the device from drops, obviously.
I am rocking the pixel fold in AZ and leave my fold in my work truck. lots and lots of dust i just make sure to clean my phone as i get home. looks and feels brand new. Take care of the things you own and they will last
I had two flip 4s, both suffered from a peeling/cracked screen protector. Now I have the Fold 4 and am hoping I'll be more LUCKY with it. I never used a case on the flip but when I think about the price of my fold I get nervous had using a case so glad to see this video. Thanks!
Well, thats what I realised when I seen some people with Flip's - because main screen is foldable, it will have significantly more open-close action than Fold. As Fold have second screen and it is used more than inner, biger screen. I bet you will have better expirience with Fold's screen protection.
I got mine when it first came out, been rocking it with and without the case depending on my mood and if I need the pen with me. I haven't seen really any issues with mine. I just have to be conscious to not place it into any area with dust or water. I took a dive into a pool with my phone in my pocket and it killed it instantly. No problems other than the dust and water resistance
Hi, the most common issue is the inner screen not detecting the s-pen. i've had to replace my inner screen twice because of this issue(the touch function is working fine, it's just not detecting my s-pen). you will definately need to try to use a s-pen on it to find out if it still works after 1 year.
Funny you made this, I just ordered a fold 4 to replace my fold 3. I like that the 5 folds flat- but that's about the only new and improved thing, (and probably a small battery life bump) and not worth another $700 to me. I've dropped my fold 3 like 20 times at work (with slim case and a few without) and holding up just fine. They're actually pretty tough devices.
My wife drops her flip 3 all the time. Has a slim case on it. Scuffed the hinge but still going strong after 2 years. She has long nails, no dents in the screen. Replaced the screen protector after a year, new one is fine. I am sure there are lemons and shit always happens but these don't seem fragile to me.
I put an aramid protector and a tempered glass protector on the outer display. My fold 3 looks new, and the aramid case is super thin compared to plastic cases.
I'm a serial dropper, since I sometimes lose control of my hands because of nerve damage in my shoulders (my Pixel 5 was 2 months old when I dropped it 3 feet when trying to get out of a mini bus, luckily I only got a crack in the screen), but besides always wearing a case on my phone, I've now taught myself to always have a strap clipped to it, so I can hook it around my neck or to my pants so it won't fall to the ground. I've also started using a ring that's similar to popsocket and it makes holding the phone so much easier. But like you said, the phones aren't that fragile, one reason I like Mr Mobile is because he's a serial dropper like me and he tends to include the drops in his videos and if HE can daily drive foldables for years now, then I can too :) Also Jerryrigseverything does test the phones (and sometimes breaks them) and for foldables he even has a "sand test"... it's painful to watch but also fun :P
Congrats! for telling the truth!!!! i've seen people buy brand new cars and have had more problems and defects than a foldable phone and still go on and. on about how bad a foldable is. I know 2 people that have had multiple, multiple cracked screens on there Iphones over the years and still complain about foldables! Great video Shane!!! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Had mine since launch and the screen protector started peeling a few weeks ago and I don't have anywhere close by to get it replaced, so I took it off, I honestly like the phone alot better without the stock protector now. My biggest issue is that the phone doesn't open all the way, maybe 177 degrees, but that little bit is super distracting to me. Hopefully the screen doesn't break before the fold 6 comes out and I can trade it in for that (if they actually make real improvements for the 6).
How is the screen holding up. I replaced my screen protector 2 weeks ago with one I found on Amazon (whetstone dome) I think it's called. Seems to be working well.
Been looking at a fold for a while and was always nervous about the folding screen. Working in law enforcement it scared me away. This definitely makes me feel more at ease.
Great video. Good points and has been a question on my mind for awhile now. I'm going to take the leap and get the z fold 5, your video has helped settle a large concern of mine! Thank you
Just got my fold 4 , 3 days ago.. the only issue i face went u fold the fon there is a clacking sound. So far, no other problem, but time passes by the clacking sound slowly reduced 😢
I have I my Samsung z fold 2 4 2years without cover and still working perfectly, olso I don't go easy on it 4 a foldable, same wear and tear scenario every day use!!!
After 5 months from purchasing my fold 4, the inside screen broke. It was probably my fault for using the phone opened during a ski trip and was out at night when it was below 10 celsius. It didn't seem to have any issue but a month afterwards, the screen died. Knowing how finicky the inside screen can be, I''ll still be switching to the newer variant of the fold series. You can't beat the screen size when you need it.
Nice, i get my fold 4 today My only concern is i work in construction with alot of dust is somone here thats experiment with dust problems with a fold ??
I bought the fold 4 in December. I work in the oil field and it has had zero durability issues. Only thing for me isn't seems Samsung phones become slower after a while
Just bought a refurbished version today and the cover screen can only turn on from the camera app side view soon as u lock from the cover screen the main screen becomes the only screen returned for another one but I think I'll just get a s23 ultra
My inner screen went on my fold 4 after a year but that was because i dropped it alot and eventually the hinge bent, luckily i had best buy warranty and they sent me a new one
I broke my Z Fold 4 outer screen once in a year, but the real damage has been to the external hinge mechanism, which has many dings on it. I used case only on the back of the phone. My feeling is that it's easier to drop a tall thin phone like the Z Fold 4 than the Pixel Fold, it being shorter and wider?
My zfold4 had battery issues within the first months. It kept crashing and restarting. Samsung replaced the battery, but the issues continued. I got a suggestion at a reddit post to turn off auto optimization and never had any issues again. Besides that phone is solid!
Not sure about fragility of the Fold4 inner screen but I played a lot of hardcore RHYTHM GAMES on the Fold5 inner screen and it is perfectly fine since I bought it last month. The best decision I ever made was sold my iPhone 15 Pro (Which is HOT and unusable once the surface temperature goes beyond 45°C/113°F ) and switch to Fold5.
as for the comment of working in dirt and places like. I have owed zfold1-4.and both duo's. and now the pixel fold. I love the foldable design. I work in VERY dirty places. dirt and even lead dust. but I have NEVER had an issue with dirt causing the phone to break. my advice get a good case with a hinge cover. use the outer screen as much as possible while in the dirty places and reserve opening it for after work/breaks/ ect. I constantly have dust on the inner screens, but can wipe it off easily with my shirt, and I've never had a scratch on an inner screen. everyone is so concerned about the fragility of these devices, but if they can keep up with me in my dirty ass job then they'll be fine for the common user. don't baby them but also don't drop kick the damn thing accross the room.
I've been reading through the comments waiting for this one. I pre ordered it. I'm a welder and was very worried due to dust and such. But I also thought just don't open it until after work. Simple. Thank you brother.
I rocking it without a case without screen protectors yes the inside one is gone too and the device is perfectly fine. But a lot of ppl have butter fingers and of course dropping any device is never a good idea.
I wasn’t that lucky. The inner screen protector peeled off after 6 months. 360 days into purchase The inner screen failed and the phone would turn off every time I opened it. The repair process of 3 weeks without a phone has put me off foldables. I wouldn’t recommend
I have three friends with these foldables, one with a Flip 3 and two with the Fold 4. All three of them experienced the cracked screen down the crease.
@@shanecraigtech An anomaly either on the ones that do crack or the ones that don't. I do find it odd that Samsung gives just one free screen replacement for a cracked crease within one year for manufacturer defects. Normally all manufacturer defects are covered for the first year, not just one time. That being said, I did pre-order a Z Flip 5. I have insurance through my carrier though, so I am somewhat covered.
I always get a case I've had my Z Fold 3 for 2 years I gotten scratched on the glass from keys mine been dropped more than 20 times outside. My Pixel Fold got 2 cases and outer screen protector it's worth it strip being cheap.
I bought used fold 4 and exactly in 1 day the internal screen damaged! issue with loose hinges pins underneath which is not visible and not covered with warranty.... sold the phone as is with big loss and worst experience with mobiles ever!
I think the Z Fold devices are meant to be used without a case honestly. It feels better holding it while in open mode. With a case the dimensions just don't feel quite right to me. It's simple, don't walk around with the device opened and drop it. While closed the device is just as durable as other devices.
@shane It's nice to see how well it's holding up. I work in the health field and clean my S23 Ultra (tempered glass with case) with Sabi Cloths, lysol wipes, or alcohol. Love the durability of my phone and all is working perfectly. Love your vids and content. It temps me to try the Fold 5 but I worry with the screen and wiping it down if it would last. Did you purchase Samsung Care with this phone or recommend it?
I’ve had mine since launch. It’s very durable. Mine has a few scraps on the front and back. Mine has been dropped and fallen at least 10-20 times on mostly hard surfaces. It’s working perfectly fine. The plastic screen protector has bubbled up, so I took it off. I have been tempted to get the fold 5. I’m on the fence. I got about 10 days to decide before the storage deals vanish.
The massive $1000 trade-in credit is something I would not pass. The storage upgrade is something Samsung could bring back later in the year if you miss out this time.
Same. I upgraded to the Fold 5, but still wondering if I should get my screen protector replaced and keep it for another year or go forward with the F5.
I'm getting the Z Flip 5 for free after trade in credit. I'm going from 128 GB on my existing phone to 512 GB with the free RAM upgrade. Hard to pass up a free phone and 4x RAM.
I got my z fold 2 4 days ago and I love small cover screen and big 4:5 screen inside, mine has no protectors, but inside screen feels like glass I even tryed to scratch it a bit with keys, but it has no marks. I am super satisfied. edit: I think you can leave finger nails marks on screen protector only, mine has no fingernail indents after my cousin almost scratched main screen while looking at the phone
I've been through the Fold 3 and Fold 4 and headed towards the Fold 5. My Fold 3 never gave me any problems with durability at all and neither has my Fold 4. The only thing I will say is that it's mighty interesting that my Fold 3 & 4's inner screen protectors started peeling up two weeks before Samsung Unpacked...lol... But really, that's something that is so minor. You replace it and it's back to new. Never had any dings, scuffs, or micro scratches. And I draw on it a lot since I'm an artist. P.S: I find it fascinating that you choose to keep the setting enabled to display the UDC cutout. 😊
Nice conclusion about people complaining online about the Foldable phones. Am a first time Fold user now (Fold 5) for the last two days and I'm the happiest man on earth
Well mine have hold a bit more than 6 months and I can relate - its not THAT fragile. BUT - most of the time I use outter screen, with protective glass. And I have a case ( habit I guess). Other than that - Im supprised how well it lives. Altho - one never know when it comes to one bad fall with unfortunate angle of impact 😅Talking about Fold5 - I wanted to see bouth screens usable with pen. That would be "upgrade" In my eyes. As for now - Im holding on to my Fold4 untill it will be dead and gone.
Main reason I'm trading in my ZF4 to ZF5 with minimal change is screen brightness I'm outside a lot use it to read and watch videos hard to do with how dim it is outside in the south in the summer the 1750 nits will make it as bright as s23 u which is readable in sun. Also better battery with processor same reason I'm upgrading my tab s8 ultra to tab s9 ultra brightness and dynamic amoled 2x also SD card slot water resistance sense I'm outside alot etc. Snap 8 gen 2 also better battery with new chip. Trading my gw5 pro for w6 classic even with 40 hour battery nerd from 80 to 40 hours. I mostly use garmin watches so this time I got the silver for fancy situations
I also upgraded from F4 to F5. Also got the silver W6. Samsung did the same with the Note before. Had few visible changes. After using the new phone, you can tell they fixed a lot of small things and the upgrade was more noticeable. The phone felt more "polished."
Why anybody ist testing those displays in freezing cold temperatures. Specially waiting 1min, after the folding, to let the display cool down again, because the movement warms the Display up, when you do it to fast. I have changed jn 2years the display inside twice and i think they are not durable in cold temperatures und lose there flexibility.
Ive had the fold 4 since launch dropped it so many times.....no problems but i had to get it repaired a month ago because my kids got ice cream in the hinge 😅 samsung was amazing replaced the hinge, screen and battery got a brand new phone basically. I love my fold 4 but no point in upgrading to fold 5 not enough of a difference from fold 4 ill wait for 6.
Unfortunately, they're not listening to us. There's been multiple topics on the Z Fold reddit (one led by myself) with large amounts of responses/votes to indicate that the overwhelming majority of owners' Z Folds are fine. But we all know this game... the confirmation bias game. People who want to believe Z Fold is fragile little babby thing will find a handful of cracked screen stories and let that be the beginning and end of the data they take in when forming their perception of the device. And even more unfortunately... it's gonna keep happening as long the bulk of foldable discussion comes from people who have no long term experience with foldables.
When cars were invented people saw them as less reliable then a horse until everyone got a car and all of a sudden that's the norm. I figure the same thing will happen once most of the market is foldable phones.
@@kamii_999 wow, I genuinely didn't know that. I think we're a long ways away from seeing people learn foldables are more durable than they believe though.
@@ALionlikeMane yeah honestly I give it about 10 years and people will get on board. It usually happens once the market becomes saturated and competition encourages price drops to compete for customers.
I'm sooooo pissed mine has a big old dent in it, my Tab S 8 Ultra jumped out of its Stand above my desk and dented the heck out of my Fold4 rt on the black Bezel, tried to ASS-urion warranty it: they said because it's SO OLD! They'd sell me a used Black Z Fold4 for $400.00 not even a 512gb Beige one like mine! But a Black 256gb! Hence ASS-urion! Through the worst Network in the bis AT&T!
Do you mean all phones last only one year.? Is that mean durable? A huge invested phone should last atleast 3 years if cared well without any problem that is called durability.
Lucky you, I had to have my entire guts moved to a new case because my hinge stop working, and my screen protector totally came unattached. I had it in a case 100% of the time. Lucky for me I had 1 month left on my warranty.
According to Samsung, the Galaxy Z Fold 4 should be able to survive at least 200,000 folds, a number the company estimates to be around five years of use. This rounds to about 110 folds per day. By then your battery is likely to have pushed you to a new phone already. Most people buying premium phones have moved on sooner than that too.
That this premium device lacked the preinstalled screen protector on the front screen that came with the fold 3 really cost Samsung some of my goodwill.
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I loved my fold 4 but at some point it stopped opening all the way and had to send it to Samsung. I was left with no phone for two weeks. I jumped shipped to S23Ultra and kinda regretted it. Foldables breath new life into mobile phones and that fold 4 honestly was the best time I spent with a phone in years!
I, as a Z Fold 4 user agrees to that statement.
Owned Fold 1, then 2, then sold it, then back to Fold 2, and honestly speaking, I don't see myself going back anytime soon.
Love foldables, they transformed the smartphone experience for me at a time when I thought phones are all the same.
I considered upgrading but trying both Fold 3 and 4, I did not see myself utilizing the additional features, maybe if Samsung brings something different to the foldables, sadly the Fold 5 is not there yet...
I regretted using the s22 over my fold 3 and just decided that I need 1 regular phone and 1 fold just in case I have to send it in and to keep it away from scenarios like when I need to go to the beach or do something outdoorsy. So now I have the s23 ultra and the fold 4 and will upgrade to the fold 5 but not the s24 ultra.
I have played with a fold4, wanted it, got s23u because of the sd chip in the UK and currently using it, love it. But I put preorder in for fold5 to hopefully arrive this week, because I'm ready for a new way to use my phone and have a ton us uses for the 2 screen layout.
The screen protector on my fold 4 started to bubble up in the middle foldin part after a year of use. Love the phone other wise.
Fortunately the inner screens on foldables are very safe. Not only from being closed most times but they have that lip around the bezel. Most breaks I've seen are the crack down the middle and the occasional grain of sand getting in and somehow punching it out from underneath.
I know a lot of people working in IT who use the fold to make accessing computers remotely more convenient. None of those guys have had issues. I know someone with a family who is out and about a lot and their fold didn't hold up as well, but they purchased insurance. Which I guess he knew he would need in that case, cus usually most people know the insurance isn't really worth it. I guess because of the perception more people might also insure foldables. They're expensive too, so I get it. If you have that kinda money, you probably can afford the insurance and have peace of mind. Although I'm looking to get a refurb foold 4 cus they are getting CHEAP.
I used my Fold 4 without a case for a year with no issues. Like you mentioned about yours. At times it would not open all the way. I have been impressed with how durable it has been. Now I am using the Pixel Fold. I am ready to see how well it will last for the next year.
How do you like the Pixel Fold compared to the ZFold?
Finally, a non-nonsense review, great to hear and see logical oversight on tech! excellent points more videos are needed as such, breath of fresh air.
I'm using a z3 fold from day 1. No cover or screen protector used. Many many floor drops (more than 20 over the years). External screen Corners got chips damage, small cracks and even small shards and pieces of screen broken away. Eventually lines running on external screen on one side but screen still fully functions, is usable. Screen video and images are still fully visible etc and touch still fully works. Internal screen, factory fitted screen protector started peeling away after 12/18/months, so I completely peeled it away. Internal screen has one dead pixel other than that fully fuctional. Phone is still superfast, fun to use and still going.
I have a Fold 2 and a good solution for dust I found is using a cloth pouch (the ones used for glasses), and no issues with dust at all.
It doesn't add bulk or weight, cheap, I got a pack of 10 and replace the pouch whenever I feel It ran its course.
However, it will not save the device from drops, obviously.
What do you mean, you put the cloth inside the phone and than you fold it?
@@the_original_jan I hope you were being sarcastic, otherwise, the answer is in the word "pouch".
Preordered the Fold 5 (stepping up from the S20+!) but nowhere near game enough to go caseless 😅
Going to be ordering a Spigen case very soon.
I am rocking the pixel fold in AZ and leave my fold in my work truck. lots and lots of dust i just make sure to clean my phone as i get home. looks and feels brand new. Take care of the things you own and they will last
My Galaxy Fold 4 is great ,my only grip is the factory inner screen protector only lasted about 5 months, but replacing them ain't to difficult 😊
I had two flip 4s, both suffered from a peeling/cracked screen protector. Now I have the Fold 4 and am hoping I'll be more LUCKY with it. I never used a case on the flip but when I think about the price of my fold I get nervous had using a case so glad to see this video. Thanks!
No peeling protector on this one. The Fold 2 and Flip 3 both did. Replaced them myself at the time.
Well, thats what I realised when I seen some people with Flip's - because main screen is foldable, it will have significantly more open-close action than Fold. As Fold have second screen and it is used more than inner, biger screen. I bet you will have better expirience with Fold's screen protection.
been using samsung candy bars for years. the fold 5 will be my first foldable. thanks for sharing.
I loved my fold 4 but the hinge crunching was really tough to live with
I got mine when it first came out, been rocking it with and without the case depending on my mood and if I need the pen with me. I haven't seen really any issues with mine. I just have to be conscious to not place it into any area with dust or water. I took a dive into a pool with my phone in my pocket and it killed it instantly. No problems other than the dust and water resistance
Hi, the most common issue is the inner screen not detecting the s-pen. i've had to replace my inner screen twice because of this issue(the touch function is working fine, it's just not detecting my s-pen). you will definately need to try to use a s-pen on it to find out if it still works after 1 year.
Funny you made this, I just ordered a fold 4 to replace my fold 3. I like that the 5 folds flat- but that's about the only new and improved thing, (and probably a small battery life bump) and not worth another $700 to me. I've dropped my fold 3 like 20 times at work (with slim case and a few without) and holding up just fine. They're actually pretty tough devices.
New cpu also.
@@selw0nk lol yeah, but the phones are already so powerful that it doesn't really factor into the equation (for me)
My wife drops her flip 3 all the time. Has a slim case on it. Scuffed the hinge but still going strong after 2 years. She has long nails, no dents in the screen. Replaced the screen protector after a year, new one is fine. I am sure there are lemons and shit always happens but these don't seem fragile to me.
I put an aramid protector and a tempered glass protector on the outer display. My fold 3 looks new, and the aramid case is super thin compared to plastic cases.
Good video. My fold 4 has held up very well too.
I'm a serial dropper, since I sometimes lose control of my hands because of nerve damage in my shoulders (my Pixel 5 was 2 months old when I dropped it 3 feet when trying to get out of a mini bus, luckily I only got a crack in the screen), but besides always wearing a case on my phone, I've now taught myself to always have a strap clipped to it, so I can hook it around my neck or to my pants so it won't fall to the ground.
I've also started using a ring that's similar to popsocket and it makes holding the phone so much easier.
But like you said, the phones aren't that fragile, one reason I like Mr Mobile is because he's a serial dropper like me and he tends to include the drops in his videos and if HE can daily drive foldables for years now, then I can too :)
Also Jerryrigseverything does test the phones (and sometimes breaks them) and for foldables he even has a "sand test"... it's painful to watch but also fun :P
Very useful, informative and honest video, especially for us who intent to get this device ! You got a new subscriber :)
Congrats! for telling the truth!!!! i've seen people buy brand new cars and have had more problems and defects than a foldable phone and still go on and. on about how bad a foldable is. I know 2 people that have had multiple, multiple cracked screens on there Iphones over the years and still complain about foldables!
Great video Shane!!!
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Yeah, my friends 14 pro has more scratch on that stainless steel bezel than my fold 4, because of her CASE ! Crazy
I BOUGHT 4 SAMSUNG GALAXY Z FOLD PHONES AND ALL 4 HAD COMPLAINTS WHEN I UPDATED THE SOFTWARE AND ONE COMPLETELY STOPPED WORKING
Had mine since launch and the screen protector started peeling a few weeks ago and I don't have anywhere close by to get it replaced, so I took it off, I honestly like the phone alot better without the stock protector now. My biggest issue is that the phone doesn't open all the way, maybe 177 degrees, but that little bit is super distracting to me. Hopefully the screen doesn't break before the fold 6 comes out and I can trade it in for that (if they actually make real improvements for the 6).
How is the screen holding up. I replaced my screen protector 2 weeks ago with one I found on Amazon (whetstone dome) I think it's called. Seems to be working well.
I have had my samsung galaxy z fold for 1yr and two months know problem I love it
Been looking at a fold for a while and was always nervous about the folding screen. Working in law enforcement it scared me away. This definitely makes me feel more at ease.
Great video. Good points and has been a question on my mind for awhile now. I'm going to take the leap and get the z fold 5, your video has helped settle a large concern of mine! Thank you
Just got my fold 4 , 3 days ago.. the only issue i face went u fold the fon there is a clacking sound. So far, no other problem, but time passes by the clacking sound slowly reduced 😢
I'm surprised you didn't have to replace your screen protector.
I have I my Samsung z fold 2 4 2years without cover and still working perfectly, olso I don't go easy on it 4 a foldable, same wear and tear scenario every day use!!!
My fold 3 5g is not opening a complete 180° when opened to full screen, almost but lay it flat it wobbles
Why is your selfie camera constantly showing on the main screen? Isn't it supposed to be covered by the wallpaper?
After 5 months from purchasing my fold 4, the inside screen broke. It was probably my fault for using the phone opened during a ski trip and was out at night when it was below 10 celsius. It didn't seem to have any issue but a month afterwards, the screen died. Knowing how finicky the inside screen can be, I''ll still be switching to the newer variant of the fold series. You can't beat the screen size when you need it.
Great analogy about the people with broken screens. Its something so crazy common but like you say you dont see it in forums
Nice, i get my fold 4 today
My only concern is i work in construction with alot of dust is somone here thats experiment with dust problems with a fold ??
Thanks for doing this type of review. Very helpful Shane!
I bought the fold 4 in December. I work in the oil field and it has had zero durability issues. Only thing for me isn't seems Samsung phones become slower after a while
Just bought a refurbished version today and the cover screen can only turn on from the camera app side view soon as u lock from the cover screen the main screen becomes the only screen returned for another one but I think I'll just get a s23 ultra
Hey Shane, just curious, why is the hidden under display camera not hidden at 5:45 ?
I'm photophobic and the UDC has a shimmering effect that I can't handle
@scaryifliteral OIC
My inner screen went on my fold 4 after a year but that was because i dropped it alot and eventually the hinge bent, luckily i had best buy warranty and they sent me a new one
I broke my Z Fold 4 outer screen once in a year, but the real damage has been to the external hinge mechanism, which has many dings on it. I used case only on the back of the phone. My feeling is that it's easier to drop a tall thin phone like the Z Fold 4 than the Pixel Fold, it being shorter and wider?
My zfold4 had battery issues within the first months. It kept crashing and restarting. Samsung replaced the battery, but the issues continued. I got a suggestion at a reddit post to turn off auto optimization and never had any issues again. Besides that phone is solid!
Not sure about fragility of the Fold4 inner screen but I played a lot of hardcore RHYTHM GAMES on the Fold5 inner screen and it is perfectly fine since I bought it last month. The best decision I ever made was sold my iPhone 15 Pro (Which is HOT and unusable once the surface temperature goes beyond 45°C/113°F ) and switch to Fold5.
as for the comment of working in dirt and places like.
I have owed zfold1-4.and both duo's. and now the pixel fold. I love the foldable design.
I work in VERY dirty places. dirt and even lead dust. but I have NEVER had an issue with dirt causing the phone to break. my advice get a good case with a hinge cover. use the outer screen as much as possible while in the dirty places and reserve opening it for after work/breaks/ ect.
I constantly have dust on the inner screens, but can wipe it off easily with my shirt, and I've never had a scratch on an inner screen. everyone is so concerned about the fragility of these devices, but if they can keep up with me in my dirty ass job then they'll be fine for the common user. don't baby them but also don't drop kick the damn thing accross the room.
I've been reading through the comments waiting for this one. I pre ordered it. I'm a welder and was very worried due to dust and such. But I also thought just don't open it until after work. Simple. Thank you brother.
I rocking it without a case without screen protectors yes the inside one is gone too and the device is perfectly fine. But a lot of ppl have butter fingers and of course dropping any device is never a good idea.
I wasn’t that lucky. The inner screen protector peeled off after 6 months. 360 days into purchase The inner screen failed and the phone would turn off every time I opened it. The repair process of 3 weeks without a phone has put me off foldables. I wouldn’t recommend
I use a pen with my Duo 2 to edit pictures. I'm assuming that kind of activity won't hold up on any folding device with a folding screen.
I have three friends with these foldables, one with a Flip 3 and two with the Fold 4. All three of them experienced the cracked screen down the crease.
And I have had 3 myself plus a couple friends irl who haven't. What do we have? Anecdotes!
@@shanecraigtech An anomaly either on the ones that do crack or the ones that don't. I do find it odd that Samsung gives just one free screen replacement for a cracked crease within one year for manufacturer defects. Normally all manufacturer defects are covered for the first year, not just one time. That being said, I did pre-order a Z Flip 5. I have insurance through my carrier though, so I am somewhat covered.
We know you are lying@@shanecraigtech
I always get a case I've had my Z Fold 3 for 2 years I gotten scratched on the glass from keys mine been dropped more than 20 times outside. My Pixel Fold got 2 cases and outer screen protector it's worth it strip being cheap.
Flex cable went out after a year and a half for both z fold 3 and 4. Need a better warranty 1 year not good enough
I bought used fold 4 and exactly in 1 day the internal screen damaged! issue with loose hinges pins underneath which is not visible and not covered with warranty.... sold the phone as is with big loss and worst experience with mobiles ever!
Fold 2 still going strong and no issues aside from a very slight scratch on the outer screen.
Still loving my fold4. No issues, knock on wood.
I dropped my Z fold 5 with a case on and the hinged on the back completely broke
Agreed this cellphone has held up very well also
The foldable screen went black on me and doesn't work. I bought it in August of 2022.
Blessed with two good pups that never want to be more than a few feet from me lol
I through mine around like it's a regular slab. So far, it's been great
i like youre inner screen wallpaper where did you get it?
I think the Z Fold devices are meant to be used without a case honestly. It feels better holding it while in open mode. With a case the dimensions just don't feel quite right to me. It's simple, don't walk around with the device opened and drop it. While closed the device is just as durable as other devices.
Dude, You changed My mind, i'll buy it!
@shane
It's nice to see how well it's holding up. I work in the health field and clean my S23 Ultra (tempered glass with case) with Sabi Cloths, lysol wipes, or alcohol. Love the durability of my phone and all is working perfectly.
Love your vids and content. It temps me to try the Fold 5 but I worry with the screen and wiping it down if it would last. Did you purchase Samsung Care with this phone or recommend it?
I’ve had mine since launch. It’s very durable. Mine has a few scraps on the front and back. Mine has been dropped and fallen at least 10-20 times on mostly hard surfaces. It’s working perfectly fine. The plastic screen protector has bubbled up, so I took it off. I have been tempted to get the fold 5. I’m on the fence. I got about 10 days to decide before the storage deals vanish.
The massive $1000 trade-in credit is something I would not pass. The storage upgrade is something Samsung could bring back later in the year if you miss out this time.
Same. I upgraded to the Fold 5, but still wondering if I should get my screen protector replaced and keep it for another year or go forward with the F5.
@guy7622 get the screen replaced and do the pre-order and trade in to get the deals.
I'm getting the Z Flip 5 for free after trade in credit. I'm going from 128 GB on my existing phone to 512 GB with the free RAM upgrade. Hard to pass up a free phone and 4x RAM.
I got my z fold 2 4 days ago and I love small cover screen and big 4:5 screen inside, mine has no protectors, but inside screen feels like glass I even tryed to scratch it a bit with keys, but it has no marks. I am super satisfied.
edit: I think you can leave finger nails marks on screen protector only, mine has no fingernail indents after my cousin almost scratched main screen while looking at the phone
I've been through the Fold 3 and Fold 4 and headed towards the Fold 5. My Fold 3 never gave me any problems with durability at all and neither has my Fold 4. The only thing I will say is that it's mighty interesting that my Fold 3 & 4's inner screen protectors started peeling up two weeks before Samsung Unpacked...lol... But really, that's something that is so minor. You replace it and it's back to new. Never had any dings, scuffs, or micro scratches. And I draw on it a lot since I'm an artist. P.S: I find it fascinating that you choose to keep the setting enabled to display the UDC cutout. 😊
Did you get the extended warranty??
Nice conclusion about people complaining online about the Foldable phones. Am a first time Fold user now (Fold 5) for the last two days and I'm the happiest man on earth
I didnt hate the fold 4 more than fold 3 but im moving onto fold 5 next week.
Well mine have hold a bit more than 6 months and I can relate - its not THAT fragile. BUT - most of the time I use outter screen, with protective glass. And I have a case ( habit I guess). Other than that - Im supprised how well it lives. Altho - one never know when it comes to one bad fall with unfortunate angle of impact 😅Talking about Fold5 - I wanted to see bouth screens usable with pen. That would be "upgrade" In my eyes. As for now - Im holding on to my Fold4 untill it will be dead and gone.
You can also cover those micro scratches with new tempered glass 😊
Shane, how about the front left metal rim? many users reported it get scratched after removing from samsung case. and do you use spen a lot?
No significant scratches on the body anywhere, did not use the pen much at all
Main reason I'm trading in my ZF4 to ZF5 with minimal change is screen brightness I'm outside a lot use it to read and watch videos hard to do with how dim it is outside in the south in the summer the 1750 nits will make it as bright as s23 u which is readable in sun. Also better battery with processor same reason I'm upgrading my tab s8 ultra to tab s9 ultra brightness and dynamic amoled 2x also SD card slot water resistance sense I'm outside alot etc. Snap 8 gen 2 also better battery with new chip. Trading my gw5 pro for w6 classic even with 40 hour battery nerd from 80 to 40 hours. I mostly use garmin watches so this time I got the silver for fancy situations
I also upgraded from F4 to F5. Also got the silver W6. Samsung did the same with the Note before. Had few visible changes. After using the new phone, you can tell they fixed a lot of small things and the upgrade was more noticeable. The phone felt more "polished."
Why anybody ist testing those displays in freezing cold temperatures. Specially waiting 1min, after the folding, to let the display cool down again, because the movement warms the Display up, when you do it to fast. I have changed jn 2years the display inside twice and i think they are not durable in cold temperatures und lose there flexibility.
I just use the phone
Inner screen on mine went out and I had case screen protector camera protector everything.... still went out 😅
It definitely happens to the unlucky few lol
What you said is bang on. Plenty of people have smashed iPhones but no one posts about it.
Ive had the fold 4 since launch dropped it so many times.....no problems but i had to get it repaired a month ago because my kids got ice cream in the hinge 😅 samsung was amazing replaced the hinge, screen and battery got a brand new phone basically. I love my fold 4 but no point in upgrading to fold 5 not enough of a difference from fold 4 ill wait for 6.
How much did they charge for that type of repair?
@Rambobell_ free as its on warranty for two years 😊
@@aqua_Laura Wow thats great! Preordered the 5 on Monday so its nice to see theyre helpful when it comes to repairing them!
@Rambobell_ yeah they were amazing. Enjoy your new fold 5. What phone are you coming from?
@Rambobell_ yeah they were amazing. Enjoy your new fold 5. What phone are you coming from?
where is the under display camera?
Under the screen
Duh.. 😆
That's impressive. The GF4 is a seriously slippery phone.
At around 6:10, totally agree
What popsocket do you use on your phone?
Just the basic black one
no issues on mine just a screen protector and that’s it.
I just want the fold so I can use it like a tablet on the plane while not having to carry a whole big tablet.
So only 4 or 5 reasons for samsung to deny normal warranty care. Not bad!
Unfortunately, they're not listening to us. There's been multiple topics on the Z Fold reddit (one led by myself) with large amounts of responses/votes to indicate that the overwhelming majority of owners' Z Folds are fine.
But we all know this game... the confirmation bias game. People who want to believe Z Fold is fragile little babby thing will find a handful of cracked screen stories and let that be the beginning and end of the data they take in when forming their perception of the device.
And even more unfortunately... it's gonna keep happening as long the bulk of foldable discussion comes from people who have no long term experience with foldables.
When cars were invented people saw them as less reliable then a horse until everyone got a car and all of a sudden that's the norm. I figure the same thing will happen once most of the market is foldable phones.
@@kamii_999 wow, I genuinely didn't know that. I think we're a long ways away from seeing people learn foldables are more durable than they believe though.
@@ALionlikeMane yeah honestly I give it about 10 years and people will get on board. It usually happens once the market becomes saturated and competition encourages price drops to compete for customers.
Isn't it a ZF 3?
It's a fold 4. I use good lock to fill the udc with black.
My flip 4 shutsdown everytime I fold it :|
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Good video
My Fold 4 is in good shape, but AGAIN my screen protector is bubbling and coming off.
Had that on the 2, but not the 4 so far 🤞
Watching on my Fold 5
You never going to enjoy phone if you put screen protector and case. No point to buy thin phone and put huge case on it
Unfortunately the bad thing about z fold devices is the hindge,though strong,they still loosen over time,there's probably no way to fix that.
I'm sooooo pissed mine has a big old dent in it, my Tab S 8 Ultra jumped out of its Stand above my desk and dented the heck out of my Fold4 rt on the black Bezel, tried to ASS-urion warranty it: they said because it's SO OLD! They'd sell me a used Black Z Fold4 for $400.00 not even a 512gb Beige one like mine! But a Black 256gb! Hence ASS-urion! Through the worst Network in the bis AT&T!
WTF is this big ugly hole in selfie camera inside???
How about in 2024
I saw a speck of dust, then I blew on it... It was on my screen! Lol
Do you mean all phones last only one year.? Is that mean durable? A huge invested phone should last atleast 3 years if cared well without any problem that is called durability.
Did I say that or anything like that at any point in this video? Where are you getting this from? lol
Lucky you, I had to have my entire guts moved to a new case because my hinge stop working, and my screen protector totally came unattached. I had it in a case 100% of the time. Lucky for me I had 1 month left on my warranty.
Terrible product. The large screen cracked right along the hinge 14 months (out of warranty) of regular use with no drops. $500 to repair!
I wont buy a phone with a plastic screen! Says the person that cracks their glass screen the first week.
Non foldable phone will last longer no matter what. Hinge has a life span.
According to Samsung, the Galaxy Z Fold 4 should be able to survive at least 200,000 folds, a number the company estimates to be around five years of use. This rounds to about 110 folds per day. By then your battery is likely to have pushed you to a new phone already. Most people buying premium phones have moved on sooner than that too.
I'm very active and had a pixel 2 till about 6 month ago :D. I just don't like the idea lol.
That this premium device lacked the preinstalled screen protector on the front screen that came with the fold 3 really cost Samsung some of my goodwill.
I love how theses texh guys just will not call out samsung about anything durable lol.
Would it have been better for me to lie and tell you that Fold broke?
Three years later I'm still enjoying my $1800 Z fold 2 and my Z fold 2 is still enjoying me.