One of the funniest things I ever saw was from Halloween: Resurrection. I was there in the theater, kinda laughing to myself at just how bad and generally not scary it was. It ends and the lights come up and I see a teenager get up, looking absolutely terrified and pale. And he just vomits on the floor. Normally that would gross me out but the thought of someone disturbed at such a bland, bad horror movie has always amused me, instead.
Halloween goes in circles. Starts amazing with a new movie that bring fans back and ends with fans pretending the last movie didn’t happen. It’s true for every timeline. Which Halloween has more timeline then Zelda.
I partly agree. But it's not true for every timeline! The OG/COT timeline has a good final film (if you take the Producer's Cut as the canon ending to the timeline!). The Producer's Cut of H6 is a decent sequel, Donald Pleasense even said it's script was the best since the OG Halloween. But the Weinstein gore cut that calls itself the Theatrical cut is the worst, even worse than Resurrection and Ends, cause it is tons of plot holes, with the important elements (curse and cult) cut out and the flashes and soundtrack destroyed the whole movie. No wonder Paul Rudd didn't like this cut of the movie, he hated what they did to his character in the reshots, because they destroyed Tommy Doyle and made him stupid.
@@thomasffrench3639 "One long night/The Night he came home timeline" (H 1978 and H2 1981) is peak as well, even for many who dislike the sequels. It feels much more complete than the OG Halloween just on it's own and Michael feels more like a real threat in H2. Also OG Halloween is not the best paced movie and takes what sometimes feels like eternity til something important happens again, while H2 goes directly into action. Together they feel complete.
I think it's pretty cool how they made one of the best Halloween films and then followed it up with a complete parody of the entire franchise. Though I'm forever grateful for the Busta Rhymes "trick or treat" line.
H20 was not even remotely close to anything near "best" anything. It was just as garbage. Dead Dr. Loomis somehow having files telling anyone where felon Laurie Strode who faked her death lived, the authorities would like to know since its a felony and Loomis would lose his medical license as he would be considered an accomplice. Somehow Michael Myers driving a beater all the way from Illinois to Northern California on one tank of gas unnoticed, on top of the mother not reporting the car stolen at all. LL Cool J and the constant reading his romance novel or just phone calls with his wife. The movie was just as bad. It was Dawson's Creek meets Halloween. Thats not even getting into the mask that constantly changes even between scenes since there were 10 different masks.
This might be an unpopular take, but Busta Rhymes is the only entertaining part about this movie. People like to hate on him, and for good reasons, but if you treat this movie as a parody of the series, he’s fun to watch. Everything else about this movie completely sucks, but Busta Rhymes is the only entertaining thing about it.
@@mrexecutive it’s probably not unpopular now, but I remember when Resurrection came out, Busta was definitely hated on as much as everything else in the movie, well at least by horror fans.
i swear in my mind these two movies merged and I remembered a single movie about lori's son being on a reality tv show at the meyers house. that might have been better than what we got tbh lol
That sounds way more interesting! You could honestly do this sequel without putting Laurie in a mental home for years or killing her at all. Between sequels it's been a few years. Michael has limped back to his house in Haddonfield to heal up and wait out - he survived by switching corpses but no one knows (if you recall the ambulance actually blows up and is on fire at the end so just say the fire spread and burned up the head too). Meanwhile Laurie's son has Something To Prove as his character motivation since hey, he essentially ran away from the last movie right? Of course even he doesn't want anything to do with a reality show in Michael Myer's house, but is tricked into joining the production somehow by the sleazy producer. This turns into a fight for survival etc. with Hartnet stepping into his mom's role and doing his best to lead everyone to safety.
But that's not fair to H20. Batman Forever was supposed to be far better than it turned out to be. But it should never be completely mistaken with Batman & Robin
It’s very interesting how H20 was meant to be the film that would revive the Halloween franchise and then Resurrection, ironically, killed it again. Also, interesting how they began to release these films in the summer instead of the thematically appropriate time of October.
@@travzimmerman1340 H20 was more Scream than Halloween, so both is true. And if they had just waited one more year with the release of H6 or released the PC in cinemas in 1996, instead of waiting tons of years to officially release that cut, then we might have gotten a more Halloween themed H7 and H8 instead of Halloween characaters staring in movies that feel like Scream, F13 or IT.
H20 is my favorite Halloween besides the original. I find it deeply comforting. Like the 2018 Laurie, she’s damaged-but she didn’t throw away 40 years as a gun nut and abusive mother. She struggled. Really hard. With addiction, with parenting. She owns one gun and it only brings her trouble (her boyfriend shoots LL Cool J by mistake). In contrast, 2018 shows that trauma makes you a shakey mess. Who owns a lot of cool and rad guns. A lot of people with trauma hold it together. They do function. Sometimes in unhealthy ways. H20 Laurie confronts her demons. And over comes them. When the finale comes, she acts like the babysitter we met in 1978, and she sends the kids away to safety. She’s selfless. I suppose one is more realistic than the other. But it is a story about the boogeyman. I do deeply love this film. It’s so brisk and fun. It’s like a fairytale where a loving mother destroys her demons, and wins the day. And all the girlies know, Resurrection doesn’t count. Because the “paramedic” sits up like Dracula after flying thru the windshield in H20. So obviously not canon. Let me have this. LET ME HAVE THIS.
The first two movies and H20, I thoroughly enjoy. The original and H20 being my favourite. H20 was actually my introduction to the franchise so that likely influences my tastes. I have a soft spot for late 90's teen horror which H20 represents brilliantly. It's a time capsule of that style of cinema. I get the fuzzies just thinking about this time.
Agreed! I get so much crap for liking this movie and honestly, the only movies that exist in my timeline are Halloween (1978), Halloween II (1981), and H20.
I absolutely agree with everything you said here. Laurie self medicating, John being a somewhat parentified child and resisting her overprotectiveness is so compelling to me. Her facing her abuser basically and her past is so rewarding.
Tom Kane, the voice actor who among many things, did the Loomis impression, suffered a stroke in 2021 and has retired from acting. I hope he's doing okay
The opening part where he talks about how the series was a speed run of the Thorn trilogy really made me realize one thing. The Halloween franchise is king at having a hot sequel that people like and getting people interested in the series again, only to immediately have a bad sequel that kills all the good will they earned.
i always wondered why they never focused on laurie’s son for halloween resurrection. they could’ve definitely made it a revenge story for him and for michael to also come after him to finish off laurie’s own bloodline. halloween resurrection had some fair paths it could’ve taken to tell a good story, at least a story better than the one we would’ve gotten.
The funniest part on Resurrection for me is when Freddy is in the Myers get up and the real Mike walks up behind him and Freddy goes off on him and real MM just turns and walks away.What?!?
People were hype after seeing the shot of Laurie and Michael stare at each other in the trailer. My cousin and I were about 13/14 at the time and were big fans of the OG. We thought it was alright and not the worst of the franchise. Still weep for them not paying Carpenter whatever he wanted. What could have been
I prefer to pretend the retcon to the ending of H20 didn't happen. But honestly, I'm a simple person... anything Halloween with Jamie Lee Curtis in it, I'm gonna watch it
Halloween Resurrection is one of the funniest movies of all time. From the opening Assassin's Creed Michael Myers kill to Busta Rhymes beating the shit outta him its a comedic masterpiece. For it's horror and preservation of a legend it's uhhhhh no good.
Your videos are so entertaining! I was a teen when H20 came out, and had really fallen hard for slashers after Scream, and I Know What You Did - so I loved this!
Halloween Resurrection is bad, but we still haven't gone to space yet, the true hallmark of a horror franchise that's lost its way, I say this as someone that enjoys Jason X, but I still have to call it what it is. I always laughed at the fact it was Busta Rhymes that ended Myers, imagine telling someone 20 years before that was how the franchise would end, they would have called you crazy. I do like H20, as you said, it came out in the right moment of the scream era, plus it serves as the prequel to deep blue sea lol. Halloween will never end, so theirs always going to be ups and downs, it would be nice if we could just get at least one definitive trilogy, rather than them dropping the ball between sequels.
Halloween H20 is very basic in story telling, it's got the shortest running time of all the Halloween movies. H20 was a success because it was the return of Laurie Strode, it was an Anniversary Halloween film. Great Review!🎃
Halloween 2 (1981) will always be my favorite of the franchise. When it comes to Halloween: Resurrection, as bad as it was, I still think it's better than the Rob Zombie movies or even the last 3 that came out in 2018, 2021 and 2022.
I really like H20 I usually flip flop between it and 4 for my 4th favorite Halloween movie. While I acknowledge and understand why resurrection is hated I would honestly watch it over the 2 Rob Zombie movies and as well Kills and Ends. While I love a lot of the movies in this series I think that it needs to come to a definitive end.
How can you say "unlike the Laurie in David Gordon greens reboot this Laurie is shattered and still broken "? This Laurie has her life together way more than the one in 2018 . She has full custody of her son and has a very nice job and even a boyfriend. If anything 2018 Laurie is way more shattered and broken .
Only after this video did I realize that I always, always forget these movies exist, and I am a HUGE fan of the series. In fact, I've believed for years that I owned the entire series on Blu-Ray, but the reality is that I don't own either of these, the Zombie films, or any of the recent trilogy. Anyway, another dope video, Matt. You're one of the few creators whose videos I watch the second I get a notification. Always high-quality, and I dig that you're injecting more of your sense of humor into the videos. I was cracking up the whole time! Cheers, dude. Keep it up!
Look at all these hoops producers have been jumping through for decades because the hook of the series couldn't just be "horrible things happens on Halloween night in the midwest".
Back in April I finally marathoned the Thorne Trilogy and H20/Ressurection to finally catch up on the series (still have to watch the Zombie movies and finish the new trilogy). To me, I honestly like H20's more stripped-down approach. It's way too short and Michael's masks are the worst they've ever been in the series but I did enjoy the focus on Laurie's trauma as well as the final battle between her and Michael. As for Resurrection, aside from the first 20 minutes (which are just painful), it's a perfect example of a god-awful movie I enjoy watching. It's bad and has nothing to do with the rest of the franchise (strangely even less than Season of the Witch and that's non-canon) but it's just fun to see all these fools waste their time being on a reality TV show just for Michael to kill them. It's practically in a way a worse version of Freddy's Revenge. If I had to rank them so far its OG > 3 > H20 > 4 > 2 >>>>>>>>>> 6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resurection >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 (I just find 5 painfully boring). Great video once again. I apologize for not commenting on recent videos; just life got in the way. But very much looking foward to more Halloween videos (both the franchise and the holiday)
While I'm personally not big on H3, I respect your opinion and am at least glad and happy you'd rank H20 marginally above 6 and 5 so low. 6 was the one that had the most troubled development, but 5 feels the most clunky and unsure of what it wants to be.
@@saltystick_99 You can feel that H5 was rushed, but it at least tried and H6 PC did a good job at filling the plot holes and new things (Thorn rune, man in black) that h5 just threw in. I honestly like the PC, you can see that Daniel Farrands cared for the movie and franchise. Sadly the Weinsteins (who were responsible for the terrible gory TC) and Chapelle (only there to get the deal with Miramax) didn't do it with passion and that's why the movie has some problems, but it's overall still a decent sequel (and my favorite in the franchise) and would surely be more liked by some fans, if we got H7 and H8, because H6 pC wasn't supposed to be the end, it was supposed to just be the introduction to the Curse-triology and H8 would have concluded it with a happy ending (nice for Michael after all the suffering he had to go through with the Curse).
"... The moment I'm contractually obligated to include in any Halloween video." That friggin killed me 😂 Brilliant video. Yes to every point you make about Michael in Dawson's Creek & Halloween: You'll Give Us Your Money. To the layman or uninitiated out there, it seems understandable that you include Halloween 3 in the list of sequels. But you & your fans are very much initiated into the lore. How different this franchise would be had they listened to Carpenter. The Shape would still be the Boogie Man. And maybe not a goddamn Funko Pop or lawn inflatable.
Omg I was waiting for this to drop, I'm happy you made my day Matt. Also I joined your Patreon, how do I get Early access on UA-cam? I also hated how they separated Jamie and John, not even the 2018 trilogy allowed them to be together.
Thanks for joining! Just go to my Patreon page and I link all of my videos there to watch early. Click on any of them and you'll be able to watch early.
*************************** EVERYONE PLEASE READ: Before Jamie Lee Curtis signed her contract to star in H20, she was told...."you know that you Kill Michael in this film, you behead him... ....but how would you feel if we do a sequel and find out that it wasn't Michael Myers that died, it was someone else?" She said, if I believe it's Michael that I killed, then I'm OK with that. Moustapha Akkad & Co. already knew, before they shot one frame of film for H20, that the guy Laurie beheaded wasn't Michael Myers. If you are in doubt, then watch the H20 commentary track on the bluray.
Excellent video, Matt, but Halloween II (1981) is not a disappointment, definitely not in my opinion. As a matter of fact, of the 13 films (so far) in the Halloween franchise, my favorites are the original three (1978, 1981, and 1982) and Halloween: H20. Everything else ranges from mediocre to God awful, with Resurrection and the entire David Gordon Green trilogy at the bottom of the list.
H2 ('81) has far more atmosphere and tension than the original. It also eliminates the horrendous writing of Michael driving around in a car......My favorites are Halloween '81, Halloween '78 and Season of the Witch. The rest are pandering garbage.
I still am so saddened we never got the original cut of the movie. It seemed to be a nice dark comedy & cult classic when in production but latter morphed into a “meh” due to Studio Meddling half-hearted werewolf movie
I popped for the Abyss thumbtack reference and also marked out for the mention of La Puente because I live literally down the street from where they filmed that scene lmao
I'm not sure what they were thinking, signing Rob Zombie on to make the reboot, and subsequent sequel. I realize they were going for something different, but turning Laurie from smart, pretty and likeable to a grungy, whiny, scuzzy crybaby and acted by a horrific actress. The sequel was way overly brutal, unnecessarily so.
The strangest part of the Halloween Ends discourse was the repeated insistence on it being the worst movie in the franchise when Resurrection is right there
@@Xehanort10 How can you compare H5 and H6 (Producer's Cut) with abominations like Resurrection and Ends!? H5 and H6 PC are a million times better movies than the other two and they have the main theme of the franchise Michael vs Loomis. It was never Laurie vs Michael. It was always Michael stalking and following his victims and Loomis doing the same with Michael. That's why H5 was the closest to the original in how the main theme goes and H6 PC gave us a conclusion to that theme and the timeline. Daniel Farrands and Akkard aren't at fault for the stupid and aweful TC/gore cut the Weinsteins wanted and that was later aired in cinemas.
@@valeriebreidenstein8362 5 had stupid shit like annoying Tina, the writers overexaggerating how crazy Loomis was, the 2 clown cops, Michael crying because Jamie called him uncle. 5 also started the Thorn stuff with the tattoo. And in the producer's cut of 6 Michael goes from evil incarnate to the puppet of a cult led by a guy who appeared in 1 scene in the original. Both cuts also have Paul Rudd making dumb faces that make it seem like Tommy Doyle finds Michael trying to kill him funny. Michael in the producer's cut being beaten by Tommy putting stones on the floor and saying "Samhain" was stupid too.
@@Xehanort10 H5 and H6 PC still are much better than Ends or Resurrection and I for once like the fact, that michael isn't a one dimensional pure evil killer with no personality whatsoever. We have tons of pure evil villains without a cause for their actions like Art or Freddy. Michael being a victim himself is what makes you feel for him and understand why he acts the way he does and why he doesn't kill everyone on sight, why he shows mercy and human emptions, even if they are rare, or why he sometimes hesitates like he's thinking "what am I doing here?" (like when Laurie called him by his name in H2 or when Jamie saw the real him, being the first in many years) Also PC's ending isn't stupid. And Tommy even explained it before to Loomis. The rocks he lied out on the floor are runs of light that counter the dark power of the Thorn rune, activated by the word Samhain. It makes tons of sense that a celtic curse can only be broken by a ritual with similar powers. And no other timeline made even closely sense with Michael's actions or why he seemingly just gets his eyes back between H2 and H20, of he is only human or how he was so strong in Kills, but so weak in ends. The only version of Michael that really makes sense is COT Michael. He is badass, but still human inside, even if the Curse doesn't allow him to show it.
Halloween H2O has the best “ending” to the Halloween franchise, the way that theme kicks in when Michael gets decapitated and we listen to Laurie breathing… it’s perfect
I'd rank Pt 8 above Pt 2 and 3 but below all the other original movies & RZ H1 but above all the others. Pt. 8 while funny...was slick and stylish and MM was always hiding in the background he want out all in our faces like in H4 - H6 and like in most of the newer movies! The theme song was there too. MM acutely resembled the original Shape(minus the Busta Rhymes shiggity), but the film also offered something different. It felt like H2O, but just not as well executed. 🎃 I'd like to see a revamp of Pt. 4 with Laurie and her daughter in Pt. 4 and then a revamp of Pt 7 with her son and daughter together.
@@billymincey3246 Thanks. I never understood why they just didn't recast Laurie if they couldn't get Jamie to do it. They literally tanked the whole franchise by not recasting her. It wasn't as if by H4 she was the Scream queen she is now! Happy Halloween to you and answer the door for the trick or treaters! 🍿 🍭 🎃
Also, I think someone's reaction to a movie depends a lot on the environment in which they see the movie. I saw H2O in a sold put theater, consisting of a lot of screaming girls. I suppose seeing it on TV probably wouldn't provide the same experience.
I actually enjoyed and still enjoy this movie when I binge watch all the Halloween movies during October for the Halloween holiday fun or when I’m in a mood to binge watch Michael Myers movies period. Resurrection was the one that sucked but Tyra Banks appearing in the movie was my favorite part lol
I don't hate H2018 (in fact, it's probably the only one out of the Blumhouse trilogy I could consider good), but when I came back to H20, I felt that Laurie's story felt more realistic and grounded. She dealt with a traumatic experience, and because of that it leads to her having a dysfunctional relationship with her son. However, it's not because, "Laurie was having a Sarah Conner moment preparing both herself and her family for Michael Myers inevitable return with guns and weapons." It's because that night has forever changed her, and she projects that trauma onto her son like how most parents unintentionally do. She's super overbearing and protective because she doesn't want anything to happen to her only kid, and as a young teenager who wants to experience more in life, it causes an obvious rift in their relationship.
Halloween 2018 is "The Force Awakens"......A very safe and modern rehash of the original story with new and legacy character intertwined. It adds nothing in terms of story or value to the franchise. H20 is absolute hot garbage!!!
H20 is overrated, and Resurrection is underrated. H20 is standard and underwhelming, taking a great idea and doing nothing useful with it. While Laurie’s death is an anti climax in Resurrection, the set up was brilliant and some of the best writing of the series. Resurrection did what it was supposed to do - show us what Michael would do if a reality show invaded his territory, and had some fun with it. Yes it was silly, but unlike several Halloween sequels (like Zombies H2 abomination), it knew it was silly and ran with it!
I still really like H20 to this day. Just watched resurrection. It wasn't as terrible as last time i watched it in 2020. If busta rhymes and that annoying Tyra banks weren't in there it would have been alot better.
I saw Resurrection in the theater. It is the only time I have ever seen an audience, en masse, have no reaction to a horror movie. None. We were all incredulous, appalled, or both. Many of us gathered after it was over just to puzzle over the f*ckery. We were pretty evenly split as to why we were there: half for Michael, half for Laurie. And somehow this movie had ruined them both.
I still want to know how Michael got from Chicago to California ? Where did he get directions from ? Where did he go sleep ? How did he stay unseen that entire trip ? 😅😅 this film has not aged as good as I once remembered it
@@MR.__G He found her in Chicago the same way he knew how to drive in the first movie, the plot demanded it. Halloween has always been a franchise with 0 logic and heavy symbolism. It's pointless to question how he knew how to navigate to a different state, unseen. When his inability to be unseen and his ability to go places has always been plot convenient in every entry.
@@x-man9473 Laurie was never his sister in the original film. He drove out and then decided to stalk her.. and once again it makes no sense how he drove all the miles without anything happening & at that time police already knew he was a serial killer. So there’s no logic in that whatsoever
@@MR.__G In the entire first movie. He was driving around in a stolen car and no police officer ever stopped him. The logic of the films have never made sense after thinking about it. It's pointless to obsess over that state to state travel plot. Because none of the plots make sense.
""All of my ideas were for the first Halloween-there shouldn't have been any more... Michael Myers was an absence of character. And yet all the sequels are trying to explain that. That's silliness-it just misses the whole point of the first movie, to me." - John Carpenter
They could of easily made resurrection good and just set it 5 years after H20 laurie serving a prison sentence for killing the wrong guy so that'll explain lauries absence as jamie lee curtis won't reprise her role or if she agrees 5 minutes of screen time of her son visiting her and have michael going after her son it could of been pretty decent
I never enough noticed the CGI mask until videos like this decided to point it out and freeze frame the footage. It is the definition of "blink-and-miss-it" and not as glaring an issue as everyone makes out.
H2O perfectly fitted the teen horror/thriller genre mold, which I back then (being in my late teens early 20s) thought was okay. It rovolved around my utmost favorite slasher, it had JLC/Laurie now being a mom having to protect her son and friggin' LL Cool J haha. To this day this flick 's still a guilty pleasure o' mine. Halloween 's my favorite time of the year. Given my incredible affinity for both Halloween and comics, I thought why not combine both. Hence this vid wherein I talk about some Halloween-esque, nightmare inducing supervillains: ua-cam.com/video/_fqDgvk60Ww/v-deo.html
H20 was brilliantly done it would of been best to bring John back instead of forgetting it,and have a sequel and bring him and Michelle Williams back and also use John should never be forgotten about Son and daughter and also her daughter in 40 years
This was the first Halloween movie I ever saw as a kid when it randomly was shown in KDOC one day. From there Halloween was always my favorite franchise
While h20 isn't the best it had a reason to exist to give a closing chapter to the series. Resurrection on the other hand had absolutely no reason to exist and is an embodiment of what people think low grade horror is, just a bunch of dumb teens making idiotic choices and getting killed with zero reason to care, the original had fodder teens too but it did it with class and through really effective tension. The costume switch itself in Resurrection is absolutely illogical and should have been scrapped because it undermined the ending of the last film and expected the audence to be dumb enough to buy it. Although the newer trilogy is very polarized I think the first one is H20 done better and I still do enjoy that one. Halloween does have an interesting case of starting strong then the following entries starts to lose its momentum.
I honest to god had no idea Luke Kirby & Sean Patrick Thomas were in this. Both are so much better actors than this movie deserved with Thomas now starring in Gen V on AMZ Prime. Don’t even get me started on the flawless Katee Sackhoff…brilliantly cast in BSG & even the “better than the original” sequel to White Noise 2 with the great Nathan Fillion.
I thought the underground tunnels were installed by dangertainment. Like a remodeled basement. Most of the stuff was props in those tunnels. They mention the 'made in China' props at some point, I assumed the tunnels were staged.
I do not get the hate for Rob Zombie's FIRST Halloween film. Now, he's been on the record that he did NOT want to make a sequel to his Halloween movie. But the suits and execs pushed it on him and he caved. So, Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 deserves all of the scrutiny it has formulated since its release. However, 2009's Halloween by Rob Zombie DOES NOT. Zombie gave us a different take on these characters that actually worked. Malcolm McDowell was terrific as Dr. Loomis. He wasn't trying to rip off the late Donald Pleasance in the role. McDowell instead made it his own, and for the feel and aesthetic of the film it worked. Michael seemed more fierce and imposing here and again, it worked. And there's one thing that director Rob Zombie did at the very end of the film, that no other director had ever done before in this franchise. Not even the great John Carpenter. In Rob Zombie's 2009 Halloween in the climax of the film Laurie is trying to hold it together while she's fighting a 6'5 Michael Myers for her life. Michael uses his size and strength to push Laurie through an upstairs patio and into the front lawn of the house. Michael is unconscious for a few minutes, and Laurie sees Dr. Loomis' gun a few feet away from her. She grabs the revolver, climbs on top of Michael points the gun at his lower jaw and .... click, click, click. Laurie continues to click the gun looking at Michael with distain and hate when Michael wakes up and grabs the gun, but before he can take the gun from Laurie..... BOOM!! Laurie finally fires the last bullet in the gun's cylinder and blows Michael's head off. You see a pool of blood splash her face, while she screams in agony and you hear sirens in the background getting closer and closer. Revealing the end credits. Now, no other Halloween in the entire series, canon or not canon has EVER done that. Not even H20 had the balls to kill off Michael Myers for good. Not even the super OVERRATED David Gordon Green trilogy gave us such a satisfying conclusion. And that guy had THREE films to do so. Look, the 1978 original will always be the mountain top. No argument there. But to give credit where credit's due, Rob Zombie's first Halloween was a criminally underrated horror film. That is better than most of the other films in the Halloween series. And as a one and done Halloween film, Rob Zombie's vision goes further than most of the other entries. My two cents.
Where would you rank Halloween H20 and Resurrection in the franchise?
In the middle between the thorn trilogy and the rob zombie films
Both very low.
H20 I really enjoyed. Resurrection I'd put at the bottom just above Zombie's Halloween 2. BTW, I haven't seen Kills or Ends.
H20 is one of my favorite sequels here, below 4 and above II. Resurrection is horrible, worse then Kills.
🤬 I try to pretend they don't exist
One of the funniest things I ever saw was from Halloween: Resurrection. I was there in the theater, kinda laughing to myself at just how bad and generally not scary it was. It ends and the lights come up and I see a teenager get up, looking absolutely terrified and pale. And he just vomits on the floor. Normally that would gross me out but the thought of someone disturbed at such a bland, bad horror movie has always amused me, instead.
Holy shit hahaha I would never forget that and I'm sure that kid hasn't either!
Maybe the movie made him sick to his stomach?
That is hilarious 😂
@MattDraper @ComicTropes Seeing two of my favourite creators interact feels so cool and weirdly surreal😂
The only explanation is "white death" lol
Halloween goes in circles. Starts amazing with a new movie that bring fans back and ends with fans pretending the last movie didn’t happen. It’s true for every timeline. Which Halloween has more timeline then Zelda.
True, this franchise can never seem to stick the landing no matter how many times they’ve rebooted it.
This statement should be pinned because it’s so true
I partly agree. But it's not true for every timeline! The OG/COT timeline has a good final film (if you take the Producer's Cut as the canon ending to the timeline!). The Producer's Cut of H6 is a decent sequel, Donald Pleasense even said it's script was the best since the OG Halloween. But the Weinstein gore cut that calls itself the Theatrical cut is the worst, even worse than Resurrection and Ends, cause it is tons of plot holes, with the important elements (curse and cult) cut out and the flashes and soundtrack destroyed the whole movie. No wonder Paul Rudd didn't like this cut of the movie, he hated what they did to his character in the reshots, because they destroyed Tommy Doyle and made him stupid.
Which is why the best timeline is just the original film; the purist timeline
@@thomasffrench3639 "One long night/The Night he came home timeline" (H 1978 and H2 1981) is peak as well, even for many who dislike the sequels.
It feels much more complete than the OG Halloween just on it's own and Michael feels more like a real threat in H2.
Also OG Halloween is not the best paced movie and takes what sometimes feels like eternity til something important happens again, while H2 goes directly into action. Together they feel complete.
I think it's pretty cool how they made one of the best Halloween films and then followed it up with a complete parody of the entire franchise. Though I'm forever grateful for the Busta Rhymes "trick or treat" line.
The "trick of treat" line ALMOST makes up for the rest of the movie. Almost.
H20 was not even remotely close to anything near "best" anything. It was just as garbage. Dead Dr. Loomis somehow having files telling anyone where felon Laurie Strode who faked her death lived, the authorities would like to know since its a felony and Loomis would lose his medical license as he would be considered an accomplice. Somehow Michael Myers driving a beater all the way from Illinois to Northern California on one tank of gas unnoticed, on top of the mother not reporting the car stolen at all. LL Cool J and the constant reading his romance novel or just phone calls with his wife. The movie was just as bad. It was Dawson's Creek meets Halloween. Thats not even getting into the mask that constantly changes even between scenes since there were 10 different masks.
This might be an unpopular take, but Busta Rhymes is the only entertaining part about this movie. People like to hate on him, and for good reasons, but if you treat this movie as a parody of the series, he’s fun to watch. Everything else about this movie completely sucks, but Busta Rhymes is the only entertaining thing about it.
@@hashbrowns7188Not even unpopular. Resurrection is boring asf without Busta. Even the final girl was trash. They had to dub her screaming.
@@mrexecutive it’s probably not unpopular now, but I remember when Resurrection came out, Busta was definitely hated on as much as everything else in the movie, well at least by horror fans.
I like to headcanon that Laurie did kill Michael at the end of H20 and Resurrection is just another in a long list of alternate timelines
Pretty much everyone’s hope lol
The kid who vomited was a woke juvenile puts who missed his dance class
I like to headcannon that nobody knows what happened to Michael after the original classic. Everything else doesn’t exist lol
i swear in my mind these two movies merged and I remembered a single movie about lori's son being on a reality tv show at the meyers house. that might have been better than what we got tbh lol
That sounds way more interesting! You could honestly do this sequel without putting Laurie in a mental home for years or killing her at all. Between sequels it's been a few years. Michael has limped back to his house in Haddonfield to heal up and wait out - he survived by switching corpses but no one knows (if you recall the ambulance actually blows up and is on fire at the end so just say the fire spread and burned up the head too).
Meanwhile Laurie's son has Something To Prove as his character motivation since hey, he essentially ran away from the last movie right? Of course even he doesn't want anything to do with a reality show in Michael Myer's house, but is tricked into joining the production somehow by the sleazy producer. This turns into a fight for survival etc. with Hartnet stepping into his mom's role and doing his best to lead everyone to safety.
I'd like to see a revamp of Pt. 4 with Laurie and her daughter in Pt. 4 and then a revamp of Pt 7 with her son and daughter together.
Thought ll cool would have been the new milk dud loomis bald
But that's not fair to H20. Batman Forever was supposed to be far better than it turned out to be. But it should never be completely mistaken with Batman & Robin
"Halloween: Something" is an accurate title for most of the movies in this series. I say this as a fan of Carpenter and the original Halloween.
It’s very interesting how H20 was meant to be the film that would revive the Halloween franchise and then Resurrection, ironically, killed it again. Also, interesting how they began to release these films in the summer instead of the thematically appropriate time of October.
H20 didn't revive it, Scream did.
@@travzimmerman1340um it kinda did imo
@@travzimmerman1340yea because this felt like a scream wanna be.
@@travzimmerman1340 H20 was more Scream than Halloween, so both is true.
And if they had just waited one more year with the release of H6 or released the PC in cinemas in 1996, instead of waiting tons of years to officially release that cut, then we might have gotten a more Halloween themed H7 and H8 instead of Halloween characaters staring in movies that feel like Scream, F13 or IT.
H20 is my favorite Halloween besides the original.
I find it deeply comforting. Like the 2018 Laurie, she’s damaged-but she didn’t throw away 40 years as a gun nut and abusive mother.
She struggled. Really hard. With addiction, with parenting. She owns one gun and it only brings her trouble (her boyfriend shoots LL Cool J by mistake).
In contrast, 2018 shows that trauma makes you a shakey mess. Who owns a lot of cool and rad guns. A lot of people with trauma hold it together. They do function. Sometimes in unhealthy ways.
H20 Laurie confronts her demons. And over comes them. When the finale comes, she acts like the babysitter we met in 1978, and she sends the kids away to safety. She’s selfless.
I suppose one is more realistic than the other. But it is a story about the boogeyman.
I do deeply love this film. It’s so brisk and fun. It’s like a fairytale where a loving mother destroys her demons, and wins the day.
And all the girlies know, Resurrection doesn’t count. Because the “paramedic” sits up like Dracula after flying thru the windshield in H20. So obviously not canon. Let me have this.
LET ME HAVE THIS.
The first two movies and H20, I thoroughly enjoy. The original and H20 being my favourite. H20 was actually my introduction to the franchise so that likely influences my tastes. I have a soft spot for late 90's teen horror which H20 represents brilliantly. It's a time capsule of that style of cinema. I get the fuzzies just thinking about this time.
Agreed! I get so much crap for liking this movie and honestly, the only movies that exist in my timeline are Halloween (1978), Halloween II (1981), and H20.
I absolutely agree with everything you said here. Laurie self medicating, John being a somewhat parentified child and resisting her overprotectiveness is so compelling to me. Her facing her abuser basically and her past is so rewarding.
Tom Kane, the voice actor who among many things, did the Loomis impression, suffered a stroke in 2021 and has retired from acting. I hope he's doing okay
The opening part where he talks about how the series was a speed run of the Thorn trilogy really made me realize one thing. The Halloween franchise is king at having a hot sequel that people like and getting people interested in the series again, only to immediately have a bad sequel that kills all the good will they earned.
i always wondered why they never focused on laurie’s son for halloween resurrection. they could’ve definitely made it a revenge story for him and for michael to also come after him to finish off laurie’s own bloodline. halloween resurrection had some fair paths it could’ve taken to tell a good story, at least a story better than the one we would’ve gotten.
Probably because Josh Hartnett had become a bigger star by that point and didn't care.
@@antbooboo5884 And because John is the most boring Laurie kid.
Man, that bit of soundtrack from Halloween 2018 around 21:45 is so damn good
The only good part in resurrection was when Busta Rhymes was dressed as Micheal and yelled at the real one. 😂
The funniest part on Resurrection for me is when Freddy is in the Myers get up and the real Mike walks up behind him and Freddy goes off on him and real MM just turns and walks away.What?!?
People were hype after seeing the shot of Laurie and Michael stare at each other in the trailer. My cousin and I were about 13/14 at the time and were big fans of the OG. We thought it was alright and not the worst of the franchise. Still weep for them not paying Carpenter whatever he wanted. What could have been
"No Michael! Don't kill L.L. Cool J!" Lmfao 😂😂
I prefer to pretend the retcon to the ending of H20 didn't happen. But honestly, I'm a simple person... anything Halloween with Jamie Lee Curtis in it, I'm gonna watch it
This was my first Halloween (H2O) movie I saw in theaters so I have a soft spot for it. Great review Matt!
I remembered H20 but I hadn't even heard of Resurrection before. I see now, that was for the best.
Halloween Resurrection is one of the funniest movies of all time. From the opening Assassin's Creed Michael Myers kill to Busta Rhymes beating the shit outta him its a comedic masterpiece. For it's horror and preservation of a legend it's uhhhhh no good.
Your videos are so entertaining! I was a teen when H20 came out, and had really fallen hard for slashers after Scream, and I Know What You Did - so I loved this!
Halloween Resurrection is bad, but we still haven't gone to space yet, the true hallmark of a horror franchise that's lost its way, I say this as someone that enjoys Jason X, but I still have to call it what it is. I always laughed at the fact it was Busta Rhymes that ended Myers, imagine telling someone 20 years before that was how the franchise would end, they would have called you crazy. I do like H20, as you said, it came out in the right moment of the scream era, plus it serves as the prequel to deep blue sea lol. Halloween will never end, so theirs always going to be ups and downs, it would be nice if we could just get at least one definitive trilogy, rather than them dropping the ball between sequels.
Chris from Comic Tropes commenting on a Matt Draper video. My worlds and the Multiverse are colliding. I can die happy.
Halloween H20 is very basic in story telling, it's got the shortest running time of all the Halloween movies. H20 was a success because it was the return of Laurie Strode, it was an Anniversary Halloween film. Great Review!🎃
Halloween 2 (1981) will always be my favorite of the franchise. When it comes to Halloween: Resurrection, as bad as it was, I still think it's better than the Rob Zombie movies or even the last 3 that came out in 2018, 2021 and 2022.
Random trivia: Tom Kane, the voice actor impersonating Donald Pleasance in H20, played a parody of Dr. Loomis on the Boondocks cartoon.
I really like H20 I usually flip flop between it and 4 for my 4th favorite Halloween movie. While I acknowledge and understand why resurrection is hated I would honestly watch it over the 2 Rob Zombie movies and as well Kills and Ends. While I love a lot of the movies in this series I think that it needs to come to a definitive end.
I love your halloween breakdowns Matt.
The rolling head is good what the hell you talking bout Willis?
@@gkroll8467 You replied to the wrong commebt
How can you say "unlike the Laurie in David Gordon greens reboot this Laurie is shattered and still broken "? This Laurie has her life together way more than the one in 2018 . She has full custody of her son and has a very nice job and even a boyfriend. If anything 2018 Laurie is way more shattered and broken .
" Like abyss in a TNA thumbtack match" The little nuggets like this are why I subscribed
Only after this video did I realize that I always, always forget these movies exist, and I am a HUGE fan of the series. In fact, I've believed for years that I owned the entire series on Blu-Ray, but the reality is that I don't own either of these, the Zombie films, or any of the recent trilogy.
Anyway, another dope video, Matt. You're one of the few creators whose videos I watch the second I get a notification. Always high-quality, and I dig that you're injecting more of your sense of humor into the videos. I was cracking up the whole time! Cheers, dude. Keep it up!
I think it was refreshing to move from Handonfield to another place, plus the whole red brick school campus feels very autumn/fall like.
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Look at all these hoops producers have been jumping through for decades because the hook of the series couldn't just be "horrible things happens on Halloween night in the midwest".
Back in April I finally marathoned the Thorne Trilogy and H20/Ressurection to finally catch up on the series (still have to watch the Zombie movies and finish the new trilogy). To me, I honestly like H20's more stripped-down approach. It's way too short and Michael's masks are the worst they've ever been in the series but I did enjoy the focus on Laurie's trauma as well as the final battle between her and Michael. As for Resurrection, aside from the first 20 minutes (which are just painful), it's a perfect example of a god-awful movie I enjoy watching. It's bad and has nothing to do with the rest of the franchise (strangely even less than Season of the Witch and that's non-canon) but it's just fun to see all these fools waste their time being on a reality TV show just for Michael to kill them. It's practically in a way a worse version of Freddy's Revenge.
If I had to rank them so far its OG > 3 > H20 > 4 > 2 >>>>>>>>>> 6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Resurection >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 (I just find 5 painfully boring).
Great video once again. I apologize for not commenting on recent videos; just life got in the way. But very much looking foward to more Halloween videos (both the franchise and the holiday)
While I'm personally not big on H3, I respect your opinion and am at least glad and happy you'd rank H20 marginally above 6 and 5 so low. 6 was the one that had the most troubled development, but 5 feels the most clunky and unsure of what it wants to be.
@@saltystick_99 You can feel that H5 was rushed, but it at least tried and H6 PC did a good job at filling the plot holes and new things (Thorn rune, man in black) that h5 just threw in. I honestly like the PC, you can see that Daniel Farrands cared for the movie and franchise. Sadly the Weinsteins (who were responsible for the terrible gory TC) and Chapelle (only there to get the deal with Miramax) didn't do it with passion and that's why the movie has some problems, but it's overall still a decent sequel (and my favorite in the franchise) and would surely be more liked by some fans, if we got H7 and H8, because H6 pC wasn't supposed to be the end, it was supposed to just be the introduction to the Curse-triology and H8 would have concluded it with a happy ending (nice for Michael after all the suffering he had to go through with the Curse).
"... The moment I'm contractually obligated to include in any Halloween video." That friggin killed me 😂
Brilliant video. Yes to every point you make about Michael in Dawson's Creek & Halloween: You'll Give Us Your Money.
To the layman or uninitiated out there, it seems understandable that you include Halloween 3 in the list of sequels. But you & your fans are very much initiated into the lore. How different this franchise would be had they listened to Carpenter. The Shape would still be the Boogie Man. And maybe not a goddamn Funko Pop or lawn inflatable.
Thanks for the amazing video Matt ❤
Dumb actress should have read the contract
Omg I was waiting for this to drop, I'm happy you made my day Matt.
Also I joined your Patreon, how do I get Early access on UA-cam?
I also hated how they separated Jamie and John, not even the 2018 trilogy allowed them to be together.
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Before Jamie Lee Curtis signed her contract to star in H20, she was told...."you know that you Kill Michael in this film, you behead him...
....but how would you feel if we do a sequel and find out that it wasn't Michael Myers that died, it was someone else?"
She said, if I believe it's Michael that I killed, then I'm OK with that. Moustapha Akkad & Co. already knew, before they shot one frame of film for H20, that the guy Laurie beheaded wasn't Michael Myers. If you are in doubt, then watch the H20 commentary track on the bluray.
Nice Fabio Frizzi music in the BG. 👌
Excellent video, Matt, but Halloween II (1981) is not a disappointment, definitely not in my opinion.
As a matter of fact, of the 13 films (so far) in the Halloween franchise, my favorites are the original three (1978, 1981, and 1982) and Halloween: H20.
Everything else ranges from mediocre to God awful, with Resurrection and the entire David Gordon Green trilogy at the bottom of the list.
H2 ('81) has far more atmosphere and tension than the original. It also eliminates the horrendous writing of Michael driving around in a car......My favorites are Halloween '81, Halloween '78 and Season of the Witch. The rest are pandering garbage.
Love the Abyss TNA name drop
Thank you Matt
I would love a retrospective like this for Cursed. Underrated werewolf movie that made me terrified of parking garages
I still am so saddened we never got the original cut of the movie. It seemed to be a nice dark comedy & cult classic when in production but latter morphed into a “meh” due to Studio Meddling half-hearted werewolf movie
Matt you trippin. Halloween 2 was absolutely great
That Busta Rymes line is amazing, incredible. Horrid movie tho, I remember watching it one afternoon, truely I had nothing else to watch on tv
11:38 If you thought no one was going to recognize your use of the Andre the giant voice, then you got another thing coming!
Every decade Halloween makes a come back with a popular new installment only to piss it away with a bad or unpopular sequel.
another excellent retrospective, Matt!
really appreciated thee Abyss reference ^_^
I popped for the Abyss thumbtack reference and also marked out for the mention of La Puente because I live literally down the street from where they filmed that scene lmao
I'm not sure what they were thinking, signing Rob Zombie on to make the reboot, and subsequent sequel. I realize they were going for something different, but turning Laurie from smart, pretty and likeable to a grungy, whiny, scuzzy crybaby and acted by a horrific actress. The sequel was way overly brutal, unnecessarily so.
@MattDraper could you please make a video about Jason X: Jason X & Freddy vs. Jason Retrospective - The Modern Rebirth & Failure of Jason Voorhees
The strangest part of the Halloween Ends discourse was the repeated insistence on it being the worst movie in the franchise when Resurrection is right there
5, 6, Zombie's remake and its sequel too.
@@Xehanort10 How can you compare H5 and H6 (Producer's Cut) with abominations like Resurrection and Ends!?
H5 and H6 PC are a million times better movies than the other two and they have the main theme of the franchise Michael vs Loomis. It was never Laurie vs Michael. It was always Michael stalking and following his victims and Loomis doing the same with Michael. That's why H5 was the closest to the original in how the main theme goes and H6 PC gave us a conclusion to that theme and the timeline. Daniel Farrands and Akkard aren't at fault for the stupid and aweful TC/gore cut the Weinsteins wanted and that was later aired in cinemas.
@@valeriebreidenstein8362 5 had stupid shit like annoying Tina, the writers overexaggerating how crazy Loomis was, the 2 clown cops, Michael crying because Jamie called him uncle. 5 also started the Thorn stuff with the tattoo. And in the producer's cut of 6 Michael goes from evil incarnate to the puppet of a cult led by a guy who appeared in 1 scene in the original. Both cuts also have Paul Rudd making dumb faces that make it seem like Tommy Doyle finds Michael trying to kill him funny. Michael in the producer's cut being beaten by Tommy putting stones on the floor and saying "Samhain" was stupid too.
@@Xehanort10 H5 and H6 PC still are much better than Ends or Resurrection and I for once like the fact, that michael isn't a one dimensional pure evil killer with no personality whatsoever. We have tons of pure evil villains without a cause for their actions like Art or Freddy. Michael being a victim himself is what makes you feel for him and understand why he acts the way he does and why he doesn't kill everyone on sight, why he shows mercy and human emptions, even if they are rare, or why he sometimes hesitates like he's thinking "what am I doing here?" (like when Laurie called him by his name in H2 or when Jamie saw the real him, being the first in many years)
Also PC's ending isn't stupid. And Tommy even explained it before to Loomis. The rocks he lied out on the floor are runs of light that counter the dark power of the Thorn rune, activated by the word Samhain. It makes tons of sense that a celtic curse can only be broken by a ritual with similar powers.
And no other timeline made even closely sense with Michael's actions or why he seemingly just gets his eyes back between H2 and H20, of he is only human or how he was so strong in Kills, but so weak in ends.
The only version of Michael that really makes sense is COT Michael. He is badass, but still human inside, even if the Curse doesn't allow him to show it.
Halloween H2O has the best “ending” to the Halloween franchise, the way that theme kicks in when Michael gets decapitated and we listen to Laurie breathing… it’s perfect
I'd rank Pt 8 above Pt 2 and 3 but below all the other original movies & RZ H1 but above all the others. Pt. 8 while funny...was slick and stylish and MM was always hiding in the background he want out all in our faces like in H4 - H6 and like in most of the newer movies! The theme song was there too. MM acutely resembled the original Shape(minus the Busta Rhymes shiggity), but the film also offered something different. It felt like H2O, but just not as well executed. 🎃
I'd like to see a revamp of Pt. 4 with Laurie and her daughter in Pt. 4 and then a revamp of Pt 7 with her son and daughter together.
That would be Dope
@@billymincey3246 Thanks. I never understood why they just didn't recast Laurie if they couldn't get Jamie to do it. They literally tanked the whole franchise by not recasting her. It wasn't as if by H4 she was the Scream queen she is now!
Happy Halloween to you and answer the door for the trick or treaters! 🍿 🍭 🎃
Also, I think someone's reaction to a movie depends a lot on the environment in which they see the movie. I saw H2O in a sold put theater, consisting of a lot of screaming girls. I suppose seeing it on TV probably wouldn't provide the same experience.
I actually enjoyed and still enjoy this movie when I binge watch all the Halloween movies during October for the Halloween holiday fun or when I’m in a mood to binge watch Michael Myers movies period. Resurrection was the one that sucked but Tyra Banks appearing in the movie was my favorite part lol
I don't hate H2018 (in fact, it's probably the only one out of the Blumhouse trilogy I could consider good), but when I came back to H20, I felt that Laurie's story felt more realistic and grounded. She dealt with a traumatic experience, and because of that it leads to her having a dysfunctional relationship with her son. However, it's not because, "Laurie was having a Sarah Conner moment preparing both herself and her family for Michael Myers inevitable return with guns and weapons." It's because that night has forever changed her, and she projects that trauma onto her son like how most parents unintentionally do. She's super overbearing and protective because she doesn't want anything to happen to her only kid, and as a young teenager who wants to experience more in life, it causes an obvious rift in their relationship.
Halloween 2018 is "The Force Awakens"......A very safe and modern rehash of the original story with new and legacy character intertwined. It adds nothing in terms of story or value to the franchise.
H20 is absolute hot garbage!!!
Yes! Love your Halloween videos Matt. Will you do the new trilogy at some point?
Definitely!
@@MattDraper I watch your other Halloween videos non stop. Can’t wait!
H20 is overrated, and Resurrection is underrated. H20 is standard and underwhelming, taking a great idea and doing nothing useful with it. While Laurie’s death is an anti climax in Resurrection, the set up was brilliant and some of the best writing of the series. Resurrection did what it was supposed to do - show us what Michael would do if a reality show invaded his territory, and had some fun with it. Yes it was silly, but unlike several Halloween sequels (like Zombies H2 abomination), it knew it was silly and ran with it!
I love the fact that rappers starring in slashers killed the black guy dies trope.
Another great video. Happy Halloween 🎃
I still really like H20 to this day. Just watched resurrection. It wasn't as terrible as last time i watched it in 2020. If busta rhymes and that annoying Tyra banks weren't in there it would have been alot better.
I saw Resurrection in the theater. It is the only time I have ever seen an audience, en masse, have no reaction to a horror movie. None. We were all incredulous, appalled, or both. Many of us gathered after it was over just to puzzle over the f*ckery. We were pretty evenly split as to why we were there: half for Michael, half for Laurie. And somehow this movie had ruined them both.
I wonder if Scream will ever get a retrospective video.
It definitely will! I'm waiting until the next movie comes out and probably wraps up this new trilogy.
I still want to know how Michael got from Chicago to California ? Where did he get directions from ? Where did he go sleep ? How did he stay unseen that entire trip ? 😅😅 this film has not aged as good as I once remembered it
It's been years since the event happened. Obviously, he's been searching and found her eventually.
@@x-man9473 you answered none of the questions that I asked lol
@@MR.__G He found her in Chicago the same way he knew how to drive in the first movie, the plot demanded it. Halloween has always been a franchise with 0 logic and heavy symbolism.
It's pointless to question how he knew how to navigate to a different state, unseen. When his inability to be unseen and his ability to go places has always been plot convenient in every entry.
@@x-man9473 Laurie was never his sister in the original film. He drove out and then decided to stalk her.. and once again it makes no sense how he drove all the miles without anything happening & at that time police already knew he was a serial killer. So there’s no logic in that whatsoever
@@MR.__G In the entire first movie. He was driving around in a stolen car and no police officer ever stopped him. The logic of the films have never made sense after thinking about it.
It's pointless to obsess over that state to state travel plot. Because none of the plots make sense.
$17 million budget LMAO HOWWW. The mask is what killed it for me personally
Great vid
The first slasher i ever watched. Halloween h20 was awesome.
If only there was sense to let it die after H20
Laurie won and killed her brother. END.
But no.
Now those sounds pretty sweet and cool❤❤❤😎
Another banger video
I love Durand's performance, as well as the Winston mask.
I will always laugh at the boxing match between Michael Myers and Busta Rhymes
""All of my ideas were for the first Halloween-there shouldn't have been any more... Michael Myers was an absence of character. And yet all the sequels are trying to explain that. That's silliness-it just misses the whole point of the first movie, to me." - John Carpenter
They could of easily made resurrection good and just set it 5 years after H20 laurie serving a prison sentence for killing the wrong guy so that'll explain lauries absence as jamie lee curtis won't reprise her role or if she agrees 5 minutes of screen time of her son visiting her and have michael going after her son it could of been pretty decent
I never enough noticed the CGI mask until videos like this decided to point it out and freeze frame the footage. It is the definition of "blink-and-miss-it" and not as glaring an issue as everyone makes out.
H2O perfectly fitted the teen horror/thriller genre mold, which I back then (being in my late teens early 20s) thought was okay. It rovolved around my utmost favorite slasher, it had JLC/Laurie now being a mom having to protect her son and friggin' LL Cool J haha. To this day this flick 's still a guilty pleasure o' mine. Halloween 's my favorite time of the year. Given my incredible affinity for both Halloween and comics, I thought why not combine both. Hence this vid wherein I talk about some Halloween-esque, nightmare inducing supervillains: ua-cam.com/video/_fqDgvk60Ww/v-deo.html
H20 was brilliantly done it would of been best to bring John back instead of forgetting it,and have a sequel and bring him and Michelle Williams back and also use John should never be forgotten about Son and daughter and also her daughter in 40 years
@mattdraper what is the song starting around 12:00?
This was the first Halloween movie I ever saw as a kid when it randomly was shown in KDOC one day. From there Halloween was always my favorite franchise
Will you review the Gordon-Green Halloweens?
H2O was OK. I was always a fan of the original 6 films. Compared to the Rob Zombie movies, Resurrection feels like Shakespeare in the Park.
Great TNA wrestling reference
He says worst Halloween as if Halloween Ends doesn't exist
I wish it was always October on this channel
“My audience”
Sorry but we’re here for Michael.
If resurrection were a son, it would be the one you desperately want to forget exists but committed a mass shooting at school.
This is where they screwed up the timeline
While h20 isn't the best it had a reason to exist to give a closing chapter to the series. Resurrection on the other hand had absolutely no reason to exist and is an embodiment of what people think low grade horror is, just a bunch of dumb teens making idiotic choices and getting killed with zero reason to care, the original had fodder teens too but it did it with class and through really effective tension. The costume switch itself in Resurrection is absolutely illogical and should have been scrapped because it undermined the ending of the last film and expected the audence to be dumb enough to buy it. Although the newer trilogy is very polarized I think the first one is H20 done better and I still do enjoy that one. Halloween does have an interesting case of starting strong then the following entries starts to lose its momentum.
I honest to god had no idea Luke Kirby & Sean Patrick Thomas were in this. Both are so much better actors than this movie deserved with Thomas now starring in Gen V on AMZ Prime. Don’t even get me started on the flawless Katee Sackhoff…brilliantly cast in BSG & even the “better than the original” sequel to White Noise 2 with the great Nathan Fillion.
I was always afraid of this stuff..
How can you say Halloween Resurrection is the worst entry when Halloween 2 (2009) exists?
This script must have been written before Saw X 😂 12:17
Oh god is this about Shawnee Smith
Yes… yes it is
Next time the Zombie duology.
7:39 You'd think he was being electrocuted not stabbed.
I thought the underground tunnels were installed by dangertainment. Like a remodeled basement. Most of the stuff was props in those tunnels. They mention the 'made in China' props at some point, I assumed the tunnels were staged.
H20 is my ending for Strode's story and the series. I don't count Resurrection or any of the others.
I do not get the hate for Rob Zombie's FIRST Halloween film. Now, he's been on the record that he did NOT want to make a sequel to his Halloween movie. But the suits and execs pushed it on him and he caved. So, Rob Zombie's Halloween 2 deserves all of the scrutiny it has formulated since its release. However, 2009's Halloween by Rob Zombie DOES NOT. Zombie gave us a different take on these characters that actually worked. Malcolm McDowell was terrific as Dr. Loomis. He wasn't trying to rip off the late Donald Pleasance in the role. McDowell instead made it his own, and for the feel and aesthetic of the film it worked. Michael seemed more fierce and imposing here and again, it worked. And there's one thing that director Rob Zombie did at the very end of the film, that no other director had ever done before in this franchise. Not even the great John Carpenter. In Rob Zombie's 2009 Halloween in the climax of the film Laurie is trying to hold it together while she's fighting a 6'5 Michael Myers for her life. Michael uses his size and strength to push Laurie through an upstairs patio and into the front lawn of the house. Michael is unconscious for a few minutes, and Laurie sees Dr. Loomis' gun a few feet away from her. She grabs the revolver, climbs on top of Michael points the gun at his lower jaw and .... click, click, click. Laurie continues to click the gun looking at Michael with distain and hate when Michael wakes up and grabs the gun, but before he can take the gun from Laurie..... BOOM!! Laurie finally fires the last bullet in the gun's cylinder and blows Michael's head off. You see a pool of blood splash her face, while she screams in agony and you hear sirens in the background getting closer and closer. Revealing the end credits.
Now, no other Halloween in the entire series, canon or not canon has EVER done that. Not even H20 had the balls to kill off Michael Myers for good. Not even the super OVERRATED David Gordon Green trilogy gave us such a satisfying conclusion. And that guy had THREE films to do so.
Look, the 1978 original will always be the mountain top. No argument there. But to give credit where credit's due, Rob Zombie's first Halloween was a criminally underrated horror film. That is better than most of the other films in the Halloween series. And as a one and done Halloween film, Rob Zombie's vision goes further than most of the other entries. My two cents.