lmao kpop is fooling many fans these days. This is common sense everything in the video is but I can see how many overlooked it. When I first discovered kpop TOP got me into it, I thought he was a solo artist (discovered his single turn it up) but after studying him and the group I always knew there may be some shit about them in the future to come out, especially with seungri. weird dynamic of whether he was the problem or if the group members were bullying him. Why is this news anyone? I feel you and I know how it feels to believe in big bang only for them to crumble like this but keep it real - all of them are problematic minus daesung somewhat and taeyang. I adore TOP but he needs therapy and time away from the group. IDK how anyone even VIPS could view them like they weren't capable of this. wake up sis why do all kpop fans especially dedicated ones (2nd gen or new gen) think that kpop is a fairy tale rainbowworld that doesn't have scams, scheming, lies, trafficking and sex issues? it's an ENTERTAINMENT industry with an extremely complex and sensitive society so they created a warped veil that could be useful but is being abused and harming both the stars and fans alike in order to paint an image of innonce so we all get invested in them. This is just like american industry. Kpop fans have this weird thing (not directing this at you*) where if you told them "hey seungri is engaging in sexual exploitation" 2 or 3 years ago even back then they would curse you to the ground and gang up on you saying it's not true cause oppa is perfect xyz. You guys need to start doing research, getting hip to the american industry secrets and study how it works. Then you will be able to spot problematic patterns in korean and overseas stars period.
@@60wwediva "keep it real - all of them are problematic minus daesung somewhat and taeyang." Nonsense. The only one who is problematic if Seungri, allegedly. American artists are literally convicted felons and call women bitches and hoes in every song, so let's exercise some proportion here before calling Korean artists "problematic."
They should be allowed to date. I won't ever support kpop and korean entertainment industry again after learning they are forced into prostitution, bunch of old farts ruined korean entertainment industry, they have no understanding of music art, all they do is get 5-10 beautiful girls in a group make them do vulgar dance with retarded stupid songs while raping them in back stage or forcing them to sleep with pathetic old fart elites. This way actual talent never even dares to come forward, the saddest part is that i found out that rape is a popular thing among korean men and they see women only as sex objects, women get harassed and raped everywhere and all korean men are in on it, even the government. Bunch of disgraceful, prideless and spineless men. These are the same type of cowards you see come to concerts only to see those women to do vulgar dances, bunch of dumb cunts, few even tried to rape one of the female singer, police didn't do anything cuz they are in on it ofcourse (the whole korean rape culture), fans my ass. I will never see korean people in the same way again, it's just fucking pathetic. You guys seriously need to work on what entertainment industry can do with contracts: The first thing needed is to put an end to the requirement of women staying single because this way they have no way to confide in someone, or if they get too poor then the company can't force them into prostitution, they can rely on there partner. Sencondly they should be chosen based on there talent such as singing and acting, not based on rather they can be forced into prostitution or not. Contract should clearly mention that if they are being forced into prostitution or sexually harassed, the penalty for breaking the contract will not apply. The contract clearly mention what kind of sexual nature of work will be required and to what extent, e.g. vulgar dance with lets say 60% clothing or something like that etc. These are just few things that can be done.
Yeah and I feel bad about the parents now. What would their reactions have been once the news got out and he was proven guilty? His dad asked seungri to at least eat with him once a year meaning he probably didnt visit them at all unless it was purely coincidental. That's so sad. He valued his "friendships" elsewhere.
Alex Tan TOP is not naive...he knew those Santa Ladies were asked to be there for the male investors to screw with. I don't think TOP has any respect for Ri and his actions. Kpop is a small world and TOP knew what to ask and who to ask to find out what ri was up to. And of all days to do this...on Christmas. It's SICK.
He watched seungri ultimately ruin himself, from the sweet maknae to a disgusting human and he couldn't do anything to stop him - someone he clearly cares about
@@tatalala8301 hes never been that sweet tho if you actually think about it and go back all the way to the beginning, I can go back to right when they broke out with lies and haru haru, idols said he got big headed , back when him and daesung kinda had and ify relationship, Daesung said he was jealous because at that time Daesung was the top idol on variety shows and knew alot of celebrity's. Him always being jealous of Gd , i mean it was said as jokes but everyone thought if BB were to get into a huge scandal and never recover it mostl likely would involve seungri.
@@ElPhenomenon that is true, you mxke a good point. I guess it's because he's charming that everyone ignored the little things which allowed him to be deceitful and manipulative
There is so much passive-aggressiveness among the members. Its like watching someone you care for go downhill but there is nothing you can do but watch since he actively chose it himself.
Not among all of them, it was Seungri on one part, the rest of them on another, they knew he’s the wildest card out of the 5 of them. Because even if every one of them made their own mistakes, Seungri was on another level, his greediness, the thought that he’s untouchable and his need to prove that he can be successful even outside of BB blinded him completely. Not much the rest of BB could have done, aside for trying to warn him.
i feel sorry but yet angry and disappoint with "the ones that caught in jail", i just feel ambiguous about him, but for people behind him, JJY, lee jonghyun and the other(sorry i forgot the rest names) are despicable and shameful, reading one of their chat really sickening me and make me want to vomit. Instead leading their life with self awareness and morality also well ethic but they choose to fulfill their live just to satisfyand fuel their lust desires and the most sickening part that is what they do is hurt and harm someone, i heard there are a victim who suicide, please correct me if i am wrong. (the word "they" are not referred to seung ri but to other behind him or the rapists ones)
@@alexanderludwigthaddeusvandarc What upsets me the most, is these guys are famous. You're telling me there weren't women who would consensually sleep with them. But probably what it was, was that they saw that these men had terrible personalities and didn't want them. So they instead did what they did. It sickens me 🤬
Also, he probably also bumped into alot of "traces" of Seungri like BI did and at that point you gotta be frank and say things like they are, almost like saying "Hey, I'm noticing what you're doing. Don't think that you're so sly, I'm onto you". Somethings have to said when nobody is saying them😤
I don't think GD and TOP ever truly liked seungri. It's no secret GD especially disliked him before their debut. Then they debuted together and the older members were so nice that they still doted on him as the youngest. It's no surprise that they became so passive aggressive towards him when they saw which path he was going down later
@@queendedo5481 that's most likely true though. I bet T.O.P sensed or knew exactly what was going on. Them knowing about Seungri doesn't necessarily mean they were encouraging him to do shits.
@@afrinsayed5902 sensed or felt something off but not nesserly knew what was happening you can't know everything about your friends especially if said friend is pushing you away so I think you should be more careful with your words because now bigbang ot4 are under fire no need to fuel to the fire
M J yes and TOP was using it to deal with his depression and stress. He never tried to hurt anyone. Same with Bom and GD but they received hate and Seungri is getting slack. I really hope people realize the truth.
Weed has a lot of benefits like it fights anxiety, depression, and a lot of other diseases and mental illness. You can’t hurt yourself from smoking weed but you can hurt your reputation and even get in legal trouble for smoking weed in a state/country which it is illegal. Also you can’t overdose on marijuana you would have to smoke 15 pounds in an hour or less to be able to over dose.
I actually started crying when T.O.P. mentioned he felt like Seungri's friends weren't there for him but his title. I really feel for his expressed concern, T.O.P. is such a caring and lovely person it hurts my heart so much that Seungri refused to listen to his true friends.
T.O.P was severely depressed during that interview. I will never forget how concerned we were as fans. I remember leaving a comment saying that I feared that he would commit suicide because he was talking about drinking like crazy and he looked so disappointed in Seungri. Imagine working with a guy like him, your company hides all that shit but we get dragged by the masses for smoking weed. He's been through a lot
Not only did he ruin his own image, he just ruined the whole Big Bang's image. When T.O.P said they all met with the passion for music and now he's all about money, I really felt bad for the band. Big Bang's fantastic baby brought me to the K-pop world I stanned them in the beginning.
In my kpop fan eyes, he didn’t ruin Big Bang image because I know how to make a difference between this scumbag and the four true members of the legendary group, and I’m not even V.I.P ; hell I’m not even a fan, the only music I listened of them is Bang Bang Bang. I think VIPs and K-Pop fan in general will know how to make a difference, but then again, you are totally right that he ruined their image for non kpop stan, particularly in Korea were it’s incredibly strict. That’s really sad, I hope from the bottom of my heart that Big Bang will not have to pay the consequences for that rapist.
I remember watching the documentary of when Big Bang was initially forming and undergoing training, Seungri was, in fact, the last one to get selected into the group. Now thinking back, they should have picked Hyunseung to join the group instead.
When Tabi said: "We met in the past because of our passion in music but these days you we're kept talking about money"... This statement from him hits different...🥺🥺🥺...
That means everything is true about sungri. I heard there wasn’t any evidence but they sentenced him for 3 years. So he is now in jail.? I didn’t judge cz nowadays you really can't judge anyone without knowing him. But vip can easily say what is true if they are not biased. I thought he can be guilty or innocent 😔
@@aishorjodebnath I think what’s unfair is just that he got the most negative press for being the most famous but pls take note that he is not innocent either. What do you mean there is no evidence against him when there’s plenty?
@@GeorgiaAndrea i didn’t mean anything cz i wrote i heard (i just saw people were saying that there is no evidence ) It's not my words. And still i don't say or don't wanna say or judge anything as i don't know the case well. I just wanted to know the Truth. As right now you can see what's happening.. Whom we should trust💔i hope you got me... I want nothing. Just wanted to know about this that's all.
@@jumper1856 if you read my comments you can easily understand i don't know the case well. I wrote it many times. And evidence.. I already wrote It's not my word just heard. And It's very clear in my comments i am not a vip nor i know him well. Again if you still ask i have already written that i just wanted to know! I hope you read my comments before asking me!
@@jumper1856 It's ok. But now a days it has really become tough to understand who is guilty & who is innocent. It's not necessary just bcz someone is celebrity he/she can't be guilty as well as the vise versa. They can be innocent or guilty. But we can't judge without knowing him/her. Yes fans many times become blind but it’s also possible that what we see all is not true. We should notice & think neutrally. Artist can be victim or guilty. In this case i don't know what's the truth nor i know him well so that i can at least know which one can be true. I just know everything we see is not true always we have to use our own brain if we want to know unless just ignore. I didn’t make any statement was just asking.
"Thank you for support although we are only 4." Seungri: "Wait a second!" "Although there are only four of us thank you for remebering us as BIGBANG" Seungri: "Wait wait wait" *And now they are pretending they are Five years later:* "What are you doing while we four are working together?" "Hey Seungri, I heard your News. Is that Problem solved?" Seungri: *panicking* "what? what Problem?" Aaaah they knew it they KNEW it and we never noticed!
I don’t think they necessarily knew what was going on specifically but they knew Seungri would fall into trouble if he kept hanging around certain people. They saw he was getting too money hungry and that never ends well. TOP was genuinely concerned and that’s why I love him so much because he’s so observant. He warned Seungri and I bet they warned him even more off camera. But tbh Seungri is grown and should have know better. I thinks it’s real trash that people are blaming BIGBANG for Seungri’s problems.
EXACTLY 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 it’s very possible that the four others never knew FULLY what was going on, yet people are putting them on the same boat as Seungri which is disgusting. Seungri is the one guilty here
@Soru7 or maybe they disguised their serious warnings as humour. We won't know unless we hear their side. But honestly, even I notice that they're not a tight nit group. And I'm not a fan. It's little things that come off as funny, but combined show a different picture. Little hints that there's something wrong, but played off as a joke to not get too much attention. There are many ways to interpret all of this, but there are moments where they seem more genuine that you'd think at first.
Absolutely BB is one thing and Seungri another. He was always my least favorite and never really liked him. There was something about him that turn me off. He was not that attractive to me.
@@jelena1278 , I don’t think they knew anything about what Seungri was doing!!! Not just that they didn’t FULLY knew. Seungri for sure wasn’t telling them, obviously, even if they would have asked him directly, so how could they know? It’s not like they could follow him around to see what he was up to. Yes they probably did had their suspicions regarding his many businesses, because they could see with what kind of people he was associating himself, they suspected that something fishy may happen, but they couldn’t act just on their own suspicions. They’re smart, so if they would have known they would have done something to stop him, maybe they would have even kicked him out of BB themselves, because they would have know that if this was to come out, the scandal will be huge and it would affect them too, not just Seungri. Which actually did happened. They wouldn’t have risked their own career and reputation just to cover for Seungri, no matter how much they cared about him. Because this kind of scandal doesn’t compare with a marijuana scandal. This was not something that they could have just ignored and pretend they know nothing. GD has trained for 11yrs, YB for 6 yrs, the most out of all the members ( the rest of them have just 1 yr of training or less ), I really don’t see them risking all of their hard work just to cover for Seungri. They wouldn’t put just 1 person above them all, even if that person was one of them.
In my humble opinion, fame/money/status does not change a person; it reveals who you truly are. Wishing everyone success, health, wealth, prosperity, happiness and much more. ✌
@@relakonecorner perfect comment. Money is only an amplifier for your true personality. Yet people keep believing that money changes people 😂 wishful thinking i guess.
@@divx1001 Agreed. How many people do we know that will admit their shortcomings? Easier to place the blame on other people or external factors rather than be a better person today than we were yesterday. 🙈
i mean, the women dressed as santa were probably prostitutes, etc. so of course top couldn't play it off even for the camera. He was utterly disappointed at the whole scene.
I just wish things were different... I just wish Seungri listened to his hyungs I just wish he wasn't so greedy, that he listened to TOP: "Money is not everything"
I'm so sad for his father. He was super proud of his son then one day he wakes up and finds out what his son has been doing. He must feel ashamed and betrayed and must think that all the efforts he put into seungris childhood were useless.
@@Qwerty-ud1ir until the mist clears, it's safe to assume no. Even so, the scandal will still be etched to everything even remotely involved with this.
@Space & Time No, he is an important member in Big Bang. He is an amazing rapper with a unique voice. G-Dragon mentioned before that the band cannot do without him, but can do without someone(he is hinting Seungri I believe).
It really says a lot about how desperate they were to try and knock some sense into Seungri that they (especially GD and TOP) were willing to discuss this so publicly. I’ve never seen/heard any other group express concerns about another member so openly.
They have know him since he was around 14-15 years old, they literally watched him grow up. They knew where he was headed and wanted to stop that. A lot of fans forget that although GD is the leader TOP is the eldest. Him and GD did not want that type of lifestyle for him. But a some point you can't tell an adult what to do. They have to learn on their own
In korea you have to be careful what you say on tv The fact theyre throwing him under the bus means they already tried everthing Maybe hell get a wake up call. Apparently seungri head was harder that stone
@@BB4ever Oh I believe it, just look at Zico. He literally talked about the Golden Phone and the group chat on TV. And honestly nothing happened to his career. Like I get that he didn't go to jail due to no evidence 🙄. But the fact that he bragged about it, then released a song after he was acquitted of the charges. And on top of that had a the nerve to use a female singer to get his song to chart more. That was for me the last straw on any hope for K entertainment
There are some people with no friends, but Seungri has 4 loving friends who would die just to see him happy, and he just shuts them out and hurts them. I used to love Seungri, but he's very narcissistic and mildly sexist.
If you see this the other way around maybe seungri kept them out this (the scandal) by shutting them down as you say but im not defending seungri here i just thought that this is the only thing that seungri made right , kept the other members out of his 'business' 🙂
I feel like GD knew Seungri was trying to slowly break away from BigBang, not as a group but the members themselves so he could run his 'businesses' without them being so close. I think GD and T.O.P had a feeling something like this would happen and they wanted to keep an eye on him until the last possible second. That's why GD was so upset about Seungri not celebrating with them for his birthday. I feel like it was less about Seungri being alone and more about them not being able to watch him to make sure he didn't do some fuck shit like this. I feel like everything Seungri taught me. All of the cheerful things he showed me were a lie and I'm just so so angry at him.
@@champagnepapi1584 I agree, he seemed less interested in the music portion and more invested in his music. That Seungri album was likely to be a contract obligation and not something he really wanted to do
i also think gd wasnt nly angry cuz of seungris future but because of his future with the members too. as he said it was his last chance to celebrate with them and seungri seemed ignorant. i am not a vip and maybe i understood something wrong but thats what i think
Seriously TOP scandal is nothing compared to this! Weed is flipping legal in some countries like bruh!! I feel bad for TOP for feeling guilty and receiving hate
the feeling of seeing your closest friend, someone like a sibling drift apart and go on the road of self destruction hit close to home. 4:28 these lines GD said made me feel so sad. "you did nothing to celebrate your birthday with your hyungs. you knew we wouldn't be able to do it next year. But you threw a party." "you'll be ALONE next year". Just imagine how heartbreaking it must be for them to see their maknae turn into a completely new person right before their eyes 💔.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen GD that angry before, when he was telling off Seungri about not inviting the group to his birthday party. Also basically called it when he said that Seungri was going to end up alone. Like you can really see he’s just fkn over everything to do with him. Plus TOP just looks depressed about it all and Dae and Taeyang just look so tired and annoyed. Like you can really tell they all tried to stop his bullshit but Seungri was too far gone to want help or even consider them his friends anymore :/
At this stage, theyre probably thankful they werent invited to more of Seungri’s parties etc. Sounds like all his parties were just fronts for other dodgy dealings.
I think he said he’ll be all alone next year because all of the members(excluding seungri) will have to join the military next year(in that year). But gd sounds so done with seungri’s bs. I think bigbang will do just fine without seungri
@@okaa6734 The other members are joking about this display of wealth and TOP can't find it funny. Probably because he sees it as encouraging Seungri. A bit different but imagine if your friend did a prank and everyone laughed. It was dangerous but people laughed when they said "don't do that again!". The message doesn't get across because your friend sees people laughing/giving them attention first. They don't hear the warning. You, on the other hand, tell them with a straight face "don't do that again, it is dangerous"... I don't think you'd be able to laugh because you are concerned for your friend. Does that make sense? Sorry, on my phone so this is a bit garbled.
Big Bang are no stranger to scandal or controversy, TOP especially included. But the scale of this scandal and the frequency of other scandals with the other members of the same group -- we'll see... They've come back from seemingly devastating scandals & their loyal fans always manage to pool together to revive them. But this is one of the largest Kpop scandals known to date to come out of a large still very active group. DOC: "Controversial Kings of Kpop" Part I - ua-cam.com/video/3tYhMLPGdsY/v-deo.html
Karine de Andrade People who smoke weed are always the best, they're usually calm and doesnt succumb to materialistic things that destroy their egos. People are just too quick to judge. Meanwhile some people are still on Seungri's side. There are some ways this world works we can never control. We just have to learn to stick to what's right and good.
F I Morally there’s nothing wrong with smoking weed, it’s literally safer than drinking alcohol, stop being a clown. TOP did not for a second even laugh as that might come across to Seungri like he was encouraging him. He genuinely seems like a lovely person and like he was just tired of Seungri
Damn GD and TOP were definitely not playing around at the end about being 4 in 5 years. They were dead serious. Taeyang and daesung might have just played along but they too knew. I remember watching that radio star episode when it aired. Watching it now, the mcs make it sound funny since it's a show but I wasn't laughing one bit. Seungri played too many games, it's been a long time coming for him
Of course they were serious, because even if they didn’t knew exactly what crazy stuff he did, they had serious suspicions about his activities, considering the fact that he was surrounded by shady people/friends. Or maybe they simply thought that he will eventually leave BB to only concentrate on his businesses, and that’s why they said that. And with them 4 leaving for military, he would have been on his own, free to do God knows what, out of their sights, so of course they were concerned about BB’s future. I actually watched a video with them, and GD was telling Seungri to watch himself while they’re in the military, because if he does something wrong, BB as a whole will be affected too, not just him. He said it as a joke, from what I could see, but he was definitely worried about BB’s future. Imagine how disappointed he was to find out about this whole scandal while all 4 of them were in the military.
You can actually see it on his eyes, while the interview was going on. He looks so flustered and somewhat guilty, specially the part when T. O. P. was the one speaking.
They only said his friends were shady. Given that he was entering all short of business that even i wondered how his juggling all of them. He also owns a club monkey museum. Also some of his friends like jyj was involve in scandal . Also you might not know that rumors were spreading around about people he hang out with given that the industry is small
They only said his friends were shady. Given that he was entering all short of business that even i wondered how his juggling all of them. He also owns a club monkey museum. Also some of his friends like jyj was involve in scandal . Also you might not know that rumors were spreading around about people he hang out with given that the industry is small
I remembered one of jyj friend was in the variety show and a women was saying " i heard this and that about you guys " etc like she was saying they were bad people. So you might not know their are gossips about his friends given that korean entertainment is a small niche
Maybe he cant just fake a laugh when he knows something is definitely wrong. The other members are probably trying hard to laugh to cover up the shame from the growing issue.
Scary right but who can blame him just because of 1 person from their group can lead them down anytime...not only Seungri the word Bigbang will always be next to his name...besides I think he respect girls and judging from his action he really doesn't like these types of hunters looking for a prey...how they predict the Bigbang future was really a warning for all of us but we just doesn't understand... he's just so good at deceiving people with his popularity...I really feel bad for his members
T.O.P. does not look happy at all. I feel bad for the guy, watching the whole interview with the context of Seungri's issue. Like he does not take his Hyungs seriously, at all.
I'm also a VIP since 2009, but to be honest I always saw how Seungri was a little too full of himself, a little too egoistic, always desperately fighting for attention. The news surprised me for sure, but then again - they didn't... I remember these interviews, thinking the other members were just making friendly jabs at Seungri for the entertainment purposes, but now... it is SO clear that they were so desperate for Seungri to change his ways that they openly talked about his change of attitude even on national TV. All I have to say is, I feel sorry for his family, for all the victims of his wrong-doings, and for the 4 members of BIGBANG, a group I loved so dearly for such a long time.
Top just took drugs bcz of his depression. And it is legal in many other countries. He didn't harm anyone else. But S**ngri is disgusting. He treats women like commodities and money making machine. Mf
MALDITA travel & tours he is in a group chat where he and other members of it are sharing videos with girls they had intercourse with without their consent.Most of theme were drunk or drugged. = rape.
MALDITA travel & tours also the club he owned was renowned for drugging girls and then raping them so he supplied girls to higher ups by drugging them.He was also involved in prostitution and tax invasions.
@@mydogsteppedona4431 His scandal is about weeds, it's not a big problem to other country since they made it legal but in korea it's issue since it's illegal from their country.
@@elliyxjle2216 to other countries sure. In most eatren countries it's not and it wasn't weed it was marijuana. It's not something as silly as weed, marijuana can fvck you up not sure if you know the crazy crimes that are related to drugs. But safe to say the worst crimes I heard of wete related to people sho use drugs.
that "2017" video really says a lot already. the ot4 jokes, seungri being a "criminal" and "banned from the country" are happening already. ot4 know what's up. they tried helping seungri but he just wont budge :(
Then, they planned this beforehand? They must know something. It's weird. GD's marriage, Taeyang's wife, Seungri's scandal and BigBang going to be four only.
@@farah2386 not necessarily. When someone keeps on acting in a weird or way that you know is dangerous, and could affect not only himself but everyone else, and no matter how many times you warned this person, this person just keeps doing it, your expectations are literally the worse. if one of my friends started to hang out with drug dealers, and he doesn't listens to my advices, I'll just leave and I can clearly see that in the future, he'll just get involved into that world and end up sooner or later dead. But I get what you mean.
@@dasuritorres7552 How about Daesung's cosmetic surgery? When that came next, are you sure that they aren't planning this before? GD said that to continue support them being four - that's not a way to say even if you knew that your member is bad. Who actually among them knew that this scandal going to be out? I mean, if your friend is a drug addict, are you that sure that your friend is going to be caught? Saying such things somehow showing that they knew what's going on in the future. Moreover, when they 'times travel'. What if they knew and just went with the flow? Your fame aren't yours to decide though - it's the company's.
While watching it, something went through my mind like, oh no do they already know that seungri is running that kind of business and while they're on military they exposed seungri's dirty doings?
@@farah2386 YB had been dating his future wife for a long time. Jiyong has talked about getting married in his mid-30's and wants a daughter. Please read this: The whole Time Capsule thing was a great opportunity for Jiyong to tell ri that HE'S OUT OF THE BAND. There is NO fortune telling. The members had made the decision that he had to leave. There are other videos out there about this. Jiyong was nervous...and kept wrapping the robe tightly around him as for protection. There is a video where Jiyong tells ri...'you are bored w/ going on our world tours. you are a businessman now. you found your path/way.' Jiyong was letting him down as easily as possible. Ri used Jiyong as a way to get attention. They joked w/ each other on stage...ri simply wiggled himself into the spotlight so he could get recognition...he wanted to use this recognition so to start businesses and make $$$ legally/illegally. Buying clubs/bars is a really stupid way for an idol to get involved w/ the business world...but ri liked the criminal side of this. The women, GHB, the videos, and using these establishments as a private hell for women who were drugged, raped and then thrown outside in an alley on a bench. May Ri learn the meaning of rape. This is the way of the World's Entertainment Clubs...all over the world Sex Slavery, GHB, innocent women gang raped. I can't wait to get off this planet. All it takes is for the decent men to say/do nothing about this...and that's what has happened. Men still laugh at rape jokes...Decent men have to put a halt to this. They are the only ones who can stop women from being raped and used as sex slaves.
GD spends his time on Jeju Island these days,” he explained, “so I went to visit him there. I wanted to have a meal and share a drink with him, but GD suddenly said to me, ‘Seungri, I’ll paint a picture for you.’ “So he sat me down and started painting with lots of colorful hues: red, green, yellow, blue. He was looking at me and expressing my energy through the paint. Then all of a sudden, he painted over all of it with black.” Seungri went on, “Then he said, ‘This is yours.’ I asked, ‘What is this?’ He told me, ‘You’re there, behind the black. Always look inside of yourself
and another very sick kpop hater trying hard to look like a stan, while jumping on another hate train of another innocent idol. shame on you. if you cared one bit about bb, you would know that still life wasnt a comeback, it wasnt promoted or performed anywhere, its a song to tell us to wait until they are a full group with seungri again. they still stand behind him, so do all real kpop stans everywhere. you outed yourself perfectly here, so stop using kpop for attention.
trying to make him look bad again with taking things out of context, why dont you mention the fact that the black isnt meant as something bad? ah right, because then you cant justify your hate bandwagon against another innocent idol. lets also ignore the fact that gd used the same design for the nike shoes after he got discharged, which got sold out right away, despite every vip knowing what that design was. meaning the support for seungri is still huge, if you jealous loser likes it or not.
after watching this, now i know actually big bang hyungs are the one who truly care for seungri. especially top. he's the one who really hates the idea of him always thinking about money, befriending with suspicious business friends, and more. i feel like top saying all the things he's said to seungri all the time. it's just seungri is too greedy he didn't listen to his hyungs' sincere advices and got backlashed. and that christmas party he's been talking about, i think that's one of those party he provide prostitution to his business partner
abigail xx uhmm I dont agree with drug and illegal taking video of the women without their consent and whoever did that should pay for their crime. but prostitution is part of the deal and that’s how they make connection with those businessmen from other countries. we are living in a strange world, yes. Those prostitutes got money from it.
@@bigbelly5519 in some countries, prostitution is illegal, the same goes in South Korea. in my opinion, prostitution is considered as human trafficking, because they're traded with money. so it's still a crime and they should pay for it too. it's the same with drugs and taking sex vids illegally.
@@bigbelly5519 sex without love is always immoral and deserving of harsh harsh punishment. Weed it harmless and actually has been shown to be good for you if used correctly... so
@@benp9793 of course prostitution, drugs and illegal sextapes are VERY bad, but you don't need love to have sex, there are people who enjoy casual sex and that's perfectly fine, as long as it's between two *CONSENSUAL ADULTS*
@@benp9793 also, I'm in *NO WAY* defending Seungri and/or what he did, he deserves to be punished for that. I just said that (my other comment) because I wanted to clarify something
TOP for me is the most genuine, kind, sensitive and soft hearted member. I don’t care about his “scandal”. It’s completely acceptable in other countries, and so much more safer than alcohol. Plus, it’s not like he harmed anyone.
Notjasaesthetix J Yes. I think as a human being, we all probably already unintentionally harmed someone. I was comparing his “scandal” with other artists’ more serious scandals.
dbxbqm rPwjd you’re being too technical just for the sake of proving my comment invalid, but you know exactly what I meant with my comment. So thank u, next.
After i watched this video, i think Seungri didn't respect his hyungs at all, he didn't listened to them because he was so full of himself and became greedy. Just like T.O.P said he talks about money, only being nice with his hyungs on stage, even threw a party without inviting his hyungs seriously ? Its like he didn't care about their feelings at all. He became arrogant and i feel like he became a celebrity to gain influence and make money from there. Gosh i hate this guy.
He's not grateful at all for having friends and fans. I feel sorry for the other member and the fans. He did many things like without thinking about the effect to his friends, family, and others. Now I know why GD so strict towards him.
I was honestly one of his biggest fans, and could never understand the hate he got. But the more I look back the more the signs are there. I always had this instinctive thought that something wasn't right, but I ignored it. I regret that so much. And I feel so bad to the other seungri fans who have to go through the whole 'did this really just happen?' Phase. Tbh I'm still in that phase. I don't support him in any way. What he did was wrong and he should get punished, but I can't help but grieve for the seungri I loved.
Man.. we act as if we know him personally lol everything thats said on tv has always heavily filtered and scripted regardless of what the other big bang members said
Seungri was always that one that had so many SO MANY red flags that we all saw but kind of ignored excusing it as his personality, honestly when the whole club scandal came out i was shocked but definitely not surprised, it was just a matter of time for something like that to come to light. Also BB members being so lighthearted when talking about all those stories of his parties and night outs and hinting that they'd be 4 in the future and just laughing it off... damn
But it's not like everyone knew who he was before, before all the news and exposed. No one talked about his “red flags” back then because no one noticed, until now, when we all know all the shit he was involved in. Too easy. Everyone just understood now, and analyzed these old videos and connected them to what we know now. analyzed these old videos and connected them to what we know now. No one in the past could have imagined that he was like this, not even in his most sinister fanfics. It's easy to talk now about "was always that one that had so many SO MANY red flags", now that you know about the truth, but in the past, you would never connect everything to what he was involved in and could guess. That's not how things work. This sounds like as if people are to blame for not "noticing" something that again, NO ONE COULD EVER GUESS, rather than himself
Honestly i was one of his blind hand men i had no idea to me he was a total sweet heart....now i see the strange behavior looking back at it all...i see all of the signs it was all there!....i was a fool to think he wasnt fake....i didnt understand why people backlashed him....now i see
Came here after Rotten Mango's informative video about the scandal. My V.I.P self finally aware as some information were hard to gather and difficult to create a conclusion regarding this scandal :( It was sad how GD kind of imagined the situation in advance 14:01. Everyone's messages to the 5-year prediction that was heartbreaking as well :((
The small hints we should have known like when Uee said that he was too touchy and everyone attacked her for being rude. Or when the rest of the members of bb told seungri to not be so materialistic - especially top who was worried about him and his new friends, how gd dissed seungri in his songs about his friends and how seungri didn't even invite bb to his bday party. Zico deleting him from his phone contacts. Jennie saying she was uncomfortable around him and when he offered to help her with SOLO and she didn't reply which made people call her a bitch. Or when Jennie and BP called him out on stage for spreading rumours about Jennie touching him.or when he asked JHopes sister for Hanis information and contact details and she refused to do it. It's disgusting and the fact people actually still support him?! It's shocking ugh , it's people like this who get away with horrible actions and disgusting things such as raping women, imagine if that was your younger sister, it genuinely surprised me about his support, why are people so dumb?! Dam I'm pissed, lol sorry for the rant Edit: for one person who is very triggered and butthurt in the comment section, I am just going to say that I am not critisizing any of these idols, I'm in fact praising them. And no I don't want to start a 'key board fight' Edit 2:I'm a bp stan, I wouldn't hurt them ever! I'm a fan of uee and have watched tons of dramas with her staring in. I like watching zico preform and I'm an army, I wouldn't hurt these innocent idols for no reason, STOP TWISTING MY WORDS
or when Taeyeon opened up about a male senior harassing her, threatening her and multiple times calling her and doing that. People called her everything but im just wondering, im pretty sure its him.
@black pink in your area All the sources you mentioned *YT videos* are not legit I checked em all and there's no credit or proper trustworthy source So stop collecting and connecting whatever you feel that would fit cuz all you do by this is 1- spreading rumours and starting gossips 2 attracting people with groundless assumptions like yourself and starting fanwar craze Seungri is guilty and we all know this , you don't have to add up to it to look cool.
14:03 Did you see T.O.P'S face when Seungri freaked out? He was not playing his face literally said *"You think this is a joke? Nah man you gotta go.."*
Please shut up cuz you know nothing ab Bigbang. The hyungs always love the maknae and just wanted to warn him against his bad friends. They never want anyone to leave and TOP nodded bcuz he is a serious person who care so much for his members.
Y’all gotta know that T.O.P is a Scorpio. Not to sound like a smart ass but Scorpio has pretty accurate intuitive, if he finds your “friends” are worrying, you better check your back.
@@LleoneLevano yep, Scorpios see through the bull shit. And T.O.P definitely saw through the bull shit. I always felt like Sugeri was always jealous of his members especially GD. Like he irked him that he was the left over member. The other four members of BB had talent and love for music. Sugeri just wanted to be the most popular, have the most money and wanted to brag about it.
@@jacquelinelugo5518 this is very true. Anyone with intuition could see it from a mile away. He hated that he was always the least popular member and was always insecure about being the least talented, so he sought out other avenues where he could be "the best"
@@dbsksarangx3 Exactly, even the members commented when they would get around him. All he did was talk about money and where he went. It probably upset him that one album of his couldn't out sell one song of GDs. The jealousy and low key attitude he had towards his members was easy to spot once you know where to look.
@@athena9511 One true four. I think the original saying was OTP - one true pair, people change it. I don't think you're stupid. The internet lingo is real confusing sometimes. :D
TOP is a good man, a good hyung who really cared for his dongsaeng. He's also a really intelligent man. I've got this friend of mine who've met him as Big Bang went to her family's restaurant. Top asked her if her feet hurt and asked her to change shoes because she was wearing heels. I understand he broke the korean law, but I can tell he's really a good man who loves what he's doing, who loves music, and cares for his members
Okay, I read that he smoked weed, but that is not even remotely close to what Seungri did, and it doesn’t matter if he smoked weed because he can still be a good person
@@jungkookiemylove188 I literally just fking called TOP a good man, wtf is wrong with you? Your points are ever-changing. First you told me TOP didn't break the law which he did and next you're like yea he broke the law but it doesn't make him a bad person. Firstly, he broke the law and that's that. However, I never said he was a bad person.
I think maybe cus ya know how its very westernized and very common to have like drug annotations or relatations about weed,smoking etc in songs, so maybe when people heard that in a song, people just commonly would have thought of that as just trying to sound and being "swaggy" ya know? So thats why people didnt even pick up on it that time. Which is of course, a common thing to think so since after all its done so many times and its just a song.
@@akabaneaki Good grief. Go read the lines again. Ri's 'friends' approached Jiyong and said they knew Ri and asked for Jiyong's phone # and that they knew some pretty girls and Jiyong asked 'Who are you?' ri and his 2 rapist buddies are in tons of videos together, went on vacation together, photos, etc. It was NO secret that they these 3 were good friends. Weren't these lyrics from Bullshit? Or was it Middle Fingers Up? Jiyong was angry when he wrote those songs...Superstar as well. He had enough of the drama, lack of privacy, rumors about him, etc. Plus Jiyong knew Ri had used him and BB to gain $$ and a name. Ri wanted to stay in BB not for the music but for the name recognition. Ri betrayed them all. So many people causing so much drama...no wonder Jiyong wrote Bullshit and Middle Fingers Up...please show some common sense.
I feel like that TOP is the father of BigBang because he always knows what's best and worries about Seungri's decisions. And like a father he is disappointed. :(
As someone who also lost a friend (friend chose their own self-destructive path), I feel deeply for the members. That feeling of having the person you once knew become a whole new person right before your eyes. It’s not a nice feeling when you desperately try and salvage your friendship only to end up in this sort of situation because that person takes for granted all the people who used to care for them.
I know. And the way Seungri kept stopping them and asking questions, trying to pass it as a joke now makes sense! When they said in 5 years there will only be 4 members, they all were talking about him and he knew it.
Seungri never looks comfortable. When we live a guilty life, our conscious will never leave us alone. Live a clean life and be happy. Big Bang was right... he surrounded himself around horrible people. Everyone saw it coming except the fans since we don’t know the inside of his life
xjellybeans x I think ri was playing a role for the entire time he was w/ BB. I don't think he even knew himself...just a con artist w/ a big streak of misogyny. The arrogance kept him going...
For those who said that Bigbang members are guilty because "They are close, they know it. They are guilty of association." did you blame Ted Bundy's wife for murder too? She knows there is something off about him, but not the extent of his crime. Same with Bigbang members. They have different schedules outside of their group and have friends. How they spend each other's free time is not their business. Seungri chose his own path. Don't blame the others for his crimes. Seungri didn't even invite them to his parties, how much more of his activities outside of their group. They know what kind of crowd Seungri associated himself with that's why they were calling him out and have given him warnings. But Seungri is an adult capable of making decisions. He chose not to listen to his members. It's not their problem anymore. They have done their part. It's similar to encouraging your alcoholic mother to stop drinking, but at the end of the day, your mom will make the decision herself. Lastly, don't trust your idol is innocent. We only see what they wanted us to see.
they are guilty because they knew and stayed quiet for the band ! So now Don't come blaming people The guys is out and say I will bring you gd , because they are still friends...
@@Jsarmy87124 they knew something was up with him but not the exact crime he did. Do you have any idea what your friend did with her another group of friends? And we cannot change his relationship with GD. They've been together for so long but that doesn't mean GD is guilty for Seungri's crime. If your friend cheated on his bf, do you cut her off immediately? Bottom line is do not blame or include someone for a crime he didn't commit. It's Seungri's crime alone and his so called friends.
I assume the members didn’t know the extent of Seungri’s crimes before everything was exposed. I would hope that if any of them had found out about date r*pe and filming without knowl/consent that they would do the right thing, which I guess would be reporting to the authorities
4:28 i can feel Jiyong madness here. He was really mad. "And you did nothing to celebrate with your hyungs? But you threw a party? When you have so many other chances to do it? When we wouldn't be able to join your party next time?"
eh that’s a just a kid watching porn aldnakdk he was like 16 when he lived in those dorms, doesn’t have much to do with this which is taking place over a decade later
In all honesty, seungri looking more and more shady wasn't started from one thing. it was a collection of things and behaviors that led to him looking more and more suspicious until he was caught. it wasn't just him moving out of the dorms. it wasn't just him starting his own business. it wasn't just him branching out to other careers. it wasn't just him going overseas a lot. it wasn't just him partying a lot. it wasn't just him roleplaying the real life great gatsby. it wasn't just him opening up Burning Sun and co-owning it. it wasn't just his career being a DJ. It wasn't just his flash drive with hundreds of folders filled with porn under actress' names. it wasn't just his members giving out cryptic messages about how he should be careful. It wasn't just him ignoring everyone who was close to his, big bang or his family. All of these things don't sound susipcious by themselves, but if we add them altogether, there is a picture to be seen and it's not pretty. it's a series of actions that show seungri as a man who cared about business and having fun partying like every shady rich person in a movie. He prioritized making money, but also having fun rich orgies (joke but possibly true lmao). which makes him careless and that carelessness is what made him get caught in the end. and like the Great Gatsby, Seungri is a man who went to the top of the world only to fall down from his own pedestal. He is an Icarus who flew to close to the sun and burned to ashes in shame. now he sits behind bars for various charges including prostitution (from that great gatsby party), embezzlement, bribery, illegal gambling, and violation of foreign currency exchange and food hygiene laws.
And human trafficking, doing drugs, sexual assault and rape which recentally came out. And yet he's still out living freely cheating on women. Wonder how some women are still attracted to him.
Username Checks Out That’s kinda rude, calling him scum. I don’t really know what he did, but he is still a human with a soul of his own. He needs people who want him to succeed still, one of them being me
James Sherman are you mental or something?? This man drugged and had sex with women and filmed it without consent and you want him to succeed????? You’re just as sick as him!
@@bigmeatyclawzz just do a quick Google search. there's been over 100 cases of kpop idols raping girls or CEO's selling their idols out to have sex with investors. what seungri did is bad indeed, but just remember Jang ja-yeon was forced to have sex multiple times with over 20 men, later committed suicide because of it. guess what? the CEO got 1 year in jail and 160 hours of community service. and she wasn't the only person in that company. that's just 1 of the hundred of cases this has happened. again sure what seungri did is horrible but people are way too surprised and shocked by it
@@neeko708 Just because these things happen in SKorea doesn't make the things Seungri has done seem less horrible. Yes, people are surprised and shocked by it because these people are disgusting and sick. I've read about Jang Ja-Yeon and i can't imagine what she had to go through, I also feel so incredibly sorry for the other women.
When they started talking about being 4 and not 5, notice how Seungri was the only one laughing and everybody else got depressed. They all knew what was coming.
@@hao9508 Let's wait and see what they do next. I kinda understand them not leaving the company since they are a big reason for why that company even thrived. But they've only just ended their military service so they deserve at least a few months to regain their bearing. Lowkey hoping they either buy out the company themselves or leave and start their own label.
Last dance was a goodbye to all of us, i doupt bigbang will come back as four, but i am happy that the other members are clean and that they tried their best with him i am sure they talked publicly about these things because they know he cares about his image, damn 2019 has been going downhill
This honestly breaks my heart, TOP being concerned and even when drunk telling Seungri his friends do not have his best interests at heart, truly hurts. 3:19 and that conversation makes my heart hurt.
TOP is the most genuine and kind person on planet earth. He provided wisdom to his youngest but he didn't listen, and that's sad, not only for him but for the other 4 members. I just am disgusted... nothing else to say really.
I feel so bad for G-Dragon, Taeyang, T.O.P and Daesung! And his family! They definitely deserved a better Maknae and a better son! Seungri is such a greedy idiot! Feels bad man!
@@Iiterally if it is open I figure it won't be in Korea. Imo his reputation is also gonna take a hit in Japan too. So I don't know about a Japan but definitely not Korea.
I always think seungri is an outcast...his personality and style are so different from the group. I thought he was bubbly and funny at first but in hindsight he was just always eager to show people that he's funny and want to be the spotlight in the room. Who is watching this now that BigBang is finally back?
I was thinking that too, he was always different but I couldn’t pinpoint why. But this is showing that he always deep dived into things and people he had no business being apart of and connected to. They tried to tell him to stop and think but it caught up to him
Damn the second last clip really exposed him. The fact that the members already knew he was gonna be a criminal, oof they were probably the ones who exposed him
Jenica They had every right to. They were fed up with his bullshit and he never listened. Therefore I wouldn’t be surprised if they were the ones to expose him.
I wonder...how are his parents now? His father specially brought me to tears. He looks so proud of him, but all this ...I bet it is like a stab in the heart
He seems like a dad that would scold and then tries to encourage him, might be one of the best criteria of a dad. And mine left to buy cigarettes 9 years ago hasn't came back since
- Jung joonyoung, singer (5years prison) / Choi jonghoon, member of FTisland(2years prison) : gang rape, illegal filming.. - Seungri(Victory), member of Bigbang (18 months prison) : arrangement of prostitution, drug etc(about 9 criminals) - Yoon gyugeun, ex police superintendent($15000) : close relationship between prostitution, destruction of evidence Its very nice conditions to make criminals in Korea.😢😂
Seungri hurt a lot of people. And just watching his parents tell him that they’re concerned and him blatantly shrugging it is off is killing me. I bet the members and his parents are ashamed to have know and trusted such and awful person. His personality in general just clashes with mine but my heart is broken for his loved ones.
찬해 Don’t even get me started on that lol. I can’t understand why someone would still support him after everything that’s been shown. I understand what it’s like to love a kpop band member and want to believe that’s not what really happened. But it is. He did it. And I can’t look past that. But that’s just me.
@@Jiffypizza I saw some fans say that the girls that were filmed and stuff should've enjoyed it. How the hell do you come up with that? I can't believe the ppl that still support him.
It's_Ellie I’ve seen something similar to that where they were saying the girls were lucky enough to even be noticed by him. And that since he’s and idol it’s okay. Like really that’s sick! No matter what status or title it’s still wrong.
Honestly since he get so serious with his business, I kept being worried and seeing GD, T.O.P, Taeyang & Daesung showing their concerns about Seungri made me even more worried. I never trust his business or showbiz contacts, I smelled something fishy since the beginning. When I saw that he didn’t want to join the army together with his hyungs because of his business, it’s how I knew BIGBANG wasn’t his priority anymore... I always knew Seungri was more of a businessman than a singer, GD is the artist, T.O.P is the celebrity, Taeyang is the performer and Daesung is the entertainer. They all made and fit in the entertainment market but Seungri was always more of a CEO, someone who like to control and make profits. He always talked about the business aspect of all his work, while the others talked about the artistic aspects of their work.... Nevertheless I thought he would still protect BIGBANG and show that we were wrong, that he’s capable to represent BIGBANG alone... I’m so disappointed right now....
YOu made a lot of good points. Nothing wrong with wanting to be an Entrepreneur but it was wrong the way he went about it trying to get rich and powerful the quick and dirty way. We can only speculate if he got in the entertainment world for the glamour to begin with, rather a pure love for the art, and got carried away as fame came because his focus had been fame all along.
Makes me sick to remember all the times they've doted on him, the fond way they referred to him, how they fought for him to have more lines and center time even though yg was reluctant :'^(
maryela dyanin yes Bigbsng is GD hard work to make it whole and stay it that way since the beginning he is the in who convince TOP to try 2nd time audition on YG after been rejected same on Taeyang and Dara but I really have me thinking is the three person when they go back to YG for 2nd try Audition YG sign them with a contract I can't sense GD gave do something to secure there place on YG until now he is working to make BB whole not separated and Dara stay on YG with him
Around 3:50 TOP sounds so much like a concerned father for Seungri, he really looked out for him. When I first watched this video I didn't pay much attention because the scandal wasn't out and I could not understand Korean. I think the compilation gives a lot of proper foreshadowing into the scandal's manifestation.
Exactly. TOP knows it's not healthy for an artist to be overly obsessed with money. At least that's how he feels it. I totally respect TOP for that insight on Seungri. GOAT.
@@franklynnyein127 They knew that Seungri's values were going off the rails- he stopped caring about his family, stopped caring about his adopted BIGBANG family.. It really is a great gatsby tale.
TOP seemed genuinely done with Seungri, GD as well. I love the other four members for standing their ground and not getting involved with Seungri’s mess.
Uncle fish ( haru's uncle i forgot his name srry) but hes th3 guy that has curly like hair at the right (the clip of the 5 years) . Well he looks like he nothing to do with this. Its my opinion i wont fight back
I was always under the impression that Seungri NEEDED attention. That if he wasn't in the spotlight at all times, he would do whatever it takes to get it. This translates well to variety, but not for a grounded and level-headed person. GD had natural, cool charisma, T.O.P. had the deep voice, Taeyang could dance, Daesung was goofy and an amazing vocalist.... Seungri was absolutely included in the group for his variety talents and not much else. He was noticeably less popular than every other member and he knew it--what better way to distinguish himself than by reveling in the business side of nightlife? He basks in attention and drowns in women every night. Ultimately, when you take away all the fame he has nothing. His narcissistic, constant cravings for attention ultimately consumed him. It's sad, really. (Not sad enough for me to feel bad tho)
I feel bad for the other members who tried to raise him right while also raising themselves. They really tried to look out for him and he showed the highest disrespect to the people who cared about him by being a greedy, creepy little amoeba.
In a world of showbiz, you need to make use of whatever cards you have. In many cases, it is talent. Perhaps Seungri knew that he's not that talented compared to his hyungs. Looking from a third person's perspective it's easy to say that he's the type that can be manipulated easily. Because he decided to take on business, it is inevitable that he will fall since dealing with most business partners are never easy. Plus, he's a famous idol in which they will definitely take advantage. He went from fame to infamy which can never be recovered over time.
I don't think Seungri had less attention in the past. As a fan for 10 years, the 3-driving fans crazy with the outlook was always G-Dragon, Top, Seungri. Daesung didn't even have a spotlight until 2012. Taeyang wasn't impressive because he was short and too humble. I think what Seungri really wants isn't fame. He seriously wants money.
The worst is Seungri has no regret. He think he is over the law, and he can do anything without penalty. And what you know? It is true because of the corrupt system, police, politicians...... It is shame.....
Now he's like that unwelcome parasitic friend who doesn't know how to take a hint and whom you wish you never met. BB members never mention him anymore, even cropped him out of a photo, etc.....yet he still has the balls to name-drop them in public.
@@berilo.8044 if he wear only swimming pants like he would normally in pool party ppl would say here omg look at him naked like animal. how perverted, iT iS a SiGn. Like the whole video. That's the positive aspect of his life being framed as negative. Like when he do charity after party. it is not a lie. he always do charity after party since 2011 with jinusean or his parents.
Seeing all the clips are fine but the clip of GD and T.O.P telling him and basically being his elder brothers and guiding him and yet he ignores them and also the clip where he did not celebrate his birthday or did not even meet after concerts are just so heartbreaking.I cannot believe how many times off camera they would have talked to him and he might have ignored them.Its just so sad how humans can get greedy.....
One thing I feel like ppl aren't noticing is that TOP said 'we weren't like this in the past'. He said they came together bc of their passion for music. That means in the beginning seungri was (probably) a good person just looking to preform on stage yet somewhere along the way he got involved with the wrong ppl and his morals got more and more corrupt. I think is hyungs really tried to warn him and look out for him but he just got so greedy at some point and saw himself as untouchable. It's been so long but I'm honestly still in so much shock from all this. Like I'm just hoping I wake up from a horrible dream and seungri is the person we used to know. It's crazy how much I loved him and stood up for him when I felt he was being wronged by yg and now I just look back feel regret. I still love all the other members from the bottom of my heart and I'm hoping bigbang (ot4) can find a way to continue their passions despite all this. Most importantly I hope seungri has learned from all this and starts to really work on himself and his morals. He need need to understand how he hurt his fans, friends, and family. He needs to be punished accordingly and apologize for his wrongdoings and really fix the way he lives his life. I personally could never wish death upon another person, I'm just hoping he retires, learns his lesson and does what needs to be done to right his wrong. (YG included)
Jaycey Allen I'm a month late to responding (because I didn't want to obsess over this), but this is so true. I don't think Seungri is inherently a bad person, but I do think he got extremely lost and unfortunately turned into the person he is today. At some point, as BIGBANG grew, the so-called "power" went to his head. He's a prime example of what the entertainment industry could do to a person if they don't watch out. It's like he was a good kid but he really did sign his soul away.
xxxpinkarea xxx Yeah and until then, I'd rather take a hiatus from being his fan. I'm allowed to do that until there is proof of him not being guilty as well. Everything is speculation, no?
"but once he comes down the stage, he never stays with us" he even held a birthday party without the hyungs. I think there is some gap that was 'untouchable' between him and the other member, which he created himself. Its not because the hyung didnt care or just passing by on his business, but he covered it. Its really a pity that he just focusing on his greed but ignoring his most valuable person like his hyungs.
And yg is still supporting seungri like he got rid of hanbin and outed his mistake to try get the attention off seungri (that's what I understood at least)
This is so inconsequential but something that always stuck out to me was their relationship with kids. Specifically, Lee Haru, the daughter of Tablo from Epik High. Haru loved spending time with and seeing every single member of big bang but Seungri. I don't think I've ever seen a clip of her with him, even in a dressing room with him in the background. I always found it a bit strange, especially since I saw her seek out everyone else at least once. I've learned that how a kid feels about a person instinctively says a lot about them.
@Holly Cow yeah, that’s one of the reasons I want a dog. So when I train my dog (I want to get a Doberman) how to distinguish between people, I can tell if something’s up.
I feel like I've always kind of lowkey picked up on subtle things I guess, 'cause to be honest, I never really liked Seungri. I love all the members equally, always have, but not Seungri, I never took a liking to him and never knew why. Let's just say I wasn't really surprised or shocked when all the news and stuff came out/ started up. He's always kind of rubbed me the wrong way and I just gotta say, I've always felt uncomfortable with him around girls/women.
Yassss. Agreed. Every program I saw him on he just seemed so..unsettling. I'm glad the glass has been shattered and he has been exposed. I just hope that the many fans who still follow and support him realize how dangerous his intentions were/are. Please, do not succumb to these circumstances, because it happens more than we would like to think in every society.
I was the same way. I told my friend this, and she helped clarified things for me. The other 4 always seem more genuine. Ex. Daesung may be the "ugly" one in the group, but his humor and vocals are what makes him Daesung. Seungri was always the sales person who tries hard to sell you somerhing. He didnt have any good qualities. He's just average...and his personality was meh. He tries to overcompensate himself by being on all these shows and making friends with everybody he meets as a way to prove that he's just as popular as the other members.
This reminded me of the strong heart YG special, where he talked about setting Dara up with multiple men and CL overheard them talking on the phone and hung up because she knew Seungri wasn't up to good.
I read somewhere that gd kinda lost his passion for music when seungri got upset when his solo stuff didnt do as well as gds solo stuff back in 2011 or something
I think after awhile seungri realised he was never gonna be as successful. He repeated during the made era, “ I gave up singing” “i gave up dancing” which is probably why he went to find other ways to make money
Lol he was never a gifted singer, they all admitted before that Seungri just being added to the group for the visual which i found not even up to the par lol... his voice always sounded the most auto-tuned one..
@@muhammadhafiz8226 you got it wrong. He was chosen as the last member of BIGBANG because of his talent in dancing and making choreography. But he was outshined by Taeyang when it comes to dancing and BIGBANG didn't focus on dancing because T.O.P is really bad at it and would ruin the group's choreography. In the end, Seungri's talent was outshined by the other members and he realized that, that's why he tried really hard in other aspects like entrepreneurship.
@@marklaurence1680 nahhh you tried hahaha he sucks at singing i heard it many times when he sing along his hyungs. Glad he wasn't part of the group already hahaha. Boo
When Song Joong-Ki ready to get his revenge! 😱😬ua-cam.com/video/LYdzbhkBa3Q/v-deo.html
lmao kpop is fooling many fans these days. This is common sense everything in the video is but I can see how many overlooked it. When I first discovered kpop TOP got me into it, I thought he was a solo artist (discovered his single turn it up) but after studying him and the group I always knew there may be some shit about them in the future to come out, especially with seungri. weird dynamic of whether he was the problem or if the group members were bullying him. Why is this news anyone? I feel you and I know how it feels to believe in big bang only for them to crumble like this but keep it real - all of them are problematic minus daesung somewhat and taeyang. I adore TOP but he needs therapy and time away from the group.
IDK how anyone even VIPS could view them like they weren't capable of this.
wake up sis why do all kpop fans especially dedicated ones (2nd gen or new gen) think that kpop is a fairy tale rainbowworld that doesn't have scams, scheming, lies, trafficking and sex issues? it's an ENTERTAINMENT industry with an extremely complex and sensitive society so they created a warped veil that could be useful but is being abused and harming both the stars and fans alike in order to paint an image of innonce so we all get invested in them. This is just like american industry. Kpop fans have this weird thing (not directing this at you*) where if you told them "hey seungri is engaging in sexual exploitation" 2 or 3 years ago even back then they would curse you to the ground and gang up on you saying it's not true cause oppa is perfect xyz. You guys need to start doing research, getting hip to the american industry secrets and study how it works. Then you will be able to spot problematic patterns in korean and overseas stars period.
Is true tho
what EVIDENCE proved that the prostitutes are NOT willing to use own sex for exchange of money?
@@60wwediva "keep it real - all of them are problematic minus daesung somewhat and taeyang." Nonsense. The only one who is problematic if Seungri, allegedly. American artists are literally convicted felons and call women bitches and hoes in every song, so let's exercise some proportion here before calling Korean artists "problematic."
They should be allowed to date.
I won't ever support kpop and korean entertainment industry again after learning they are forced into prostitution, bunch of old farts ruined korean entertainment industry, they have no understanding of music art, all they do is get 5-10 beautiful girls in a group make them do vulgar dance with retarded stupid songs while raping them in back stage or forcing them to sleep with pathetic old fart elites. This way actual talent never even dares to come forward, the saddest part is that i found out that rape is a popular thing among korean men and they see women only as sex objects, women get harassed and raped everywhere and all korean men are in on it, even the government. Bunch of disgraceful, prideless and spineless men. These are the same type of cowards you see come to concerts only to see those women to do vulgar dances, bunch of dumb cunts, few even tried to rape one of the female singer, police didn't do anything cuz they are in on it ofcourse (the whole korean rape culture), fans my ass.
I will never see korean people in the same way again, it's just fucking pathetic.
You guys seriously need to work on what entertainment industry can do with contracts:
The first thing needed is to put an end to the requirement of women staying single because this way they have no way to confide in someone, or if they get too poor then the company can't force them into prostitution, they can rely on there partner.
Sencondly they should be chosen based on there talent such as singing and acting, not based on rather they can be forced into prostitution or not.
Contract should clearly mention that if they are being forced into prostitution or sexually harassed, the penalty for breaking the contract will not apply.
The contract clearly mention what kind of sexual nature of work will be required and to what extent, e.g. vulgar dance with lets say 60% clothing or something like that etc.
These are just few things that can be done.
What really got me is the fact that he didn’t try to be with his hyungs for his birthday
that part hit me :"(
That hurts man...
When? In this video?
His family begging him to spend time with them hit me right in the gut myself.
Yeah and I feel bad about the parents now. What would their reactions have been once the news got out and he was proven guilty? His dad asked seungri to at least eat with him once a year meaning he probably didnt visit them at all unless it was purely coincidental. That's so sad. He valued his "friendships" elsewhere.
TOP was not laughing when GD talked about the santa clause dressed girls. That says alot. Seungri WAS going overboard.
When G dragon was talking about how they didn't see Seungri the whole party made me think,
"I wonder what he was doing..."
@@sophii7906chills..
i bet that was a way to showcase the girls for his sponsors/business partners to choose the girl they want "services" from 🤮
@@sophii7906 same thing i was thinking. it's his party, where tf else would he be at?
Alex Tan TOP is not naive...he knew those Santa Ladies were asked to be there for the male investors to screw with. I don't think TOP has any respect for Ri and his actions. Kpop is a small world and TOP knew what to ask and who to ask to find out what ri was up to. And of all days to do this...on Christmas. It's SICK.
T.O.P seems so upset when they were talking about Seungri's bussines :l
He watched seungri ultimately ruin himself, from the sweet maknae to a disgusting human and he couldn't do anything to stop him - someone he clearly cares about
@@tatalala8301 das deep
@@sionmarak1916 haha lol
@@tatalala8301 hes never been that sweet tho if you actually think about it and go back all the way to the beginning, I can go back to right when they broke out with lies and haru haru, idols said he got big headed , back when him and daesung kinda had and ify relationship, Daesung said he was jealous because at that time Daesung was the top idol on variety shows and knew alot of celebrity's. Him always being jealous of Gd , i mean it was said as jokes but everyone thought if BB were to get into a huge scandal and never recover it mostl likely would involve seungri.
@@ElPhenomenon that is true, you mxke a good point. I guess it's because he's charming that everyone ignored the little things which allowed him to be deceitful and manipulative
There is so much passive-aggressiveness among the members. Its like watching someone you care for go downhill but there is nothing you can do but watch since he actively chose it himself.
Not among all of them, it was Seungri on one part, the rest of them on another, they knew he’s the wildest card out of the 5 of them. Because even if every one of them made their own mistakes, Seungri was on another level, his greediness, the thought that he’s untouchable and his need to prove that he can be successful even outside of BB blinded him completely. Not much the rest of BB could have done, aside for trying to warn him.
@@alinac6068 wait what did Taeyang do???
@@swagatapathak , nothing, as far as I know. I was just speaking generally for the 4 of them. My mistake.
i feel sorry but yet angry and disappoint with "the ones that caught in jail", i just feel ambiguous about him, but for people behind him, JJY, lee jonghyun and the other(sorry i forgot the rest names) are despicable and shameful, reading one of their chat really sickening me and make me want to vomit. Instead leading their life with self awareness and morality also well ethic but they choose to fulfill their live just to satisfyand fuel their lust desires and the most sickening part that is what they do is hurt and harm someone, i heard there are a victim who suicide, please correct me if i am wrong. (the word "they" are not referred to seung ri but to other behind him or the rapists ones)
@@alexanderludwigthaddeusvandarc What upsets me the most, is these guys are famous. You're telling me there weren't women who would consensually sleep with them. But probably what it was, was that they saw that these men had terrible personalities and didn't want them. So they instead did what they did. It sickens me 🤬
Top was already so done with seungri. You can see that he's really straight forward.
I get the feeling he's disliked seungri for a while
@@molly3857 and for good reason
that makes me love TOP even more
Also, he probably also bumped into alot of "traces" of Seungri like BI did and at that point you gotta be frank and say things like they are, almost like saying "Hey, I'm noticing what you're doing. Don't think that you're so sly, I'm onto you". Somethings have to said when nobody is saying them😤
I don't think GD and TOP ever truly liked seungri. It's no secret GD especially disliked him before their debut. Then they debuted together and the older members were so nice that they still doted on him as the youngest. It's no surprise that they became so passive aggressive towards him when they saw which path he was going down later
When your friends know u so well, they can read your future.
They probably knew that way before public knew. That's why
@@marmus2901 will you stop ruining their image more than it have been already damaged if you don't have a prove shut up
@@queendedo5481 that's most likely true though. I bet T.O.P sensed or knew exactly what was going on. Them knowing about Seungri doesn't necessarily mean they were encouraging him to do shits.
@@afrinsayed5902 sensed or felt something off but not nesserly knew what was happening you can't know everything about your friends especially if said friend is pushing you away so I think you should be more careful with your words because now bigbang ot4 are under fire no need to fuel to the fire
Gosh, goosebumps 😂
T.O.P is a brilliant human being, the hate he suffered for smoking weed was not deserved!!
Your basically smoking what came from the earth tho😂
completely right. so undeserved. :(
He was basically hurting himself, NOT OTHERS :))))))) Yeah, it wasn't a good choice, but goddamm... he drugged himself, not others:)))))
M J yes and TOP was using it to deal with his depression and stress. He never tried to hurt anyone. Same with Bom and GD but they received hate and Seungri is getting slack. I really hope people realize the truth.
Weed has a lot of benefits like it fights anxiety, depression, and a lot of other diseases and mental illness. You can’t hurt yourself from smoking weed but you can hurt your reputation and even get in legal trouble for smoking weed in a state/country which it is illegal. Also you can’t overdose on marijuana you would have to smoke 15 pounds in an hour or less to be able to over dose.
I actually started crying when T.O.P. mentioned he felt like Seungri's friends weren't there for him but his title. I really feel for his expressed concern, T.O.P. is such a caring and lovely person it hurts my heart so much that Seungri refused to listen to his true friends.
❤
T.O.P was severely depressed during that interview. I will never forget how concerned we were as fans. I remember leaving a comment saying that I feared that he would commit suicide because he was talking about drinking like crazy and he looked so disappointed in Seungri. Imagine working with a guy like him, your company hides all that shit but we get dragged by the masses for smoking weed. He's been through a lot
And this is why TOP has been my favorite since always
Same sis
Saaaaame
same 😍❤
he's my Tabi Top 😍😘💕❤
Sameeeeee
Not only did he ruin his own image, he just ruined the whole Big Bang's image.
When T.O.P said they all met with the passion for music and now he's all about money, I really felt bad for the band.
Big Bang's fantastic baby brought me to the K-pop world I stanned them in the beginning.
In my kpop fan eyes, he didn’t ruin Big Bang image because I know how to make a difference between this scumbag and the four true members of the legendary group, and I’m not even V.I.P ; hell I’m not even a fan, the only music I listened of them is Bang Bang Bang. I think VIPs and K-Pop fan in general will know how to make a difference, but then again, you are totally right that he ruined their image for non kpop stan, particularly in Korea were it’s incredibly strict. That’s really sad, I hope from the bottom of my heart that Big Bang will not have to pay the consequences for that rapist.
Bigbang will always be legendary .. its ot4 from now on
I never liked that shithole from the beginning! Let him rot in jail now💀
@Yoongi's Swaeg i will stan them until the end but now its only ot4
Yup,it's all his fault.
When GD said only four members, and seungri started laughing nervously, he knew it was him leaving
in which minute he says that?
@@selda.mustak 14 minutes
Wonder what he might’ve said to gdragon after shooting
I remember watching the documentary of when Big Bang was initially forming and undergoing training, Seungri was, in fact, the last one to get selected into the group.
Now thinking back, they should have picked Hyunseung to join the group instead.
He was kidding don't act like you know what he think about it y'all so disgusting YOU ALL BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE
When Tabi said: "We met in the past because of our passion in music but these days you we're kept talking about money"...
This statement from him hits different...🥺🥺🥺...
That means everything is true about sungri. I heard there wasn’t any evidence but they sentenced him for 3 years. So he is now in jail.? I didn’t judge cz nowadays you really can't judge anyone without knowing him. But vip can easily say what is true if they are not biased. I thought he can be guilty or innocent 😔
@@aishorjodebnath I think what’s unfair is just that he got the most negative press for being the most famous but pls take note that he is not innocent either. What do you mean there is no evidence against him when there’s plenty?
@@GeorgiaAndrea i didn’t mean anything cz i wrote i heard (i just saw people were saying that there is no evidence ) It's not my words. And still i don't say or don't wanna say or judge anything as i don't know the case well. I just wanted to know the Truth. As right now you can see what's happening.. Whom we should trust💔i hope you got me... I want nothing. Just wanted to know about this that's all.
@@jumper1856 if you read my comments you can easily understand i don't know the case well. I wrote it many times. And evidence.. I already wrote It's not my word just heard. And It's very clear in my comments i am not a vip nor i know him well. Again if you still ask i have already written that i just wanted to know! I hope you read my comments before asking me!
@@jumper1856 It's ok. But now a days it has really become tough to understand who is guilty & who is innocent. It's not necessary just bcz someone is celebrity he/she can't be guilty as well as the vise versa. They can be innocent or guilty. But we can't judge without knowing him/her. Yes fans many times become blind but it’s also possible that what we see all is not true. We should notice & think neutrally. Artist can be victim or guilty. In this case i don't know what's the truth nor i know him well so that i can at least know which one can be true. I just know everything we see is not true always we have to use our own brain if we want to know unless just ignore. I didn’t make any statement was just asking.
"Thank you for support although we are only 4."
Seungri: "Wait a second!"
"Although there are only four of us thank you for remebering us as BIGBANG"
Seungri: "Wait wait wait"
*And now they are pretending they are Five years later:*
"What are you doing while we four are working together?"
"Hey Seungri, I heard your News. Is that Problem solved?"
Seungri: *panicking* "what? what Problem?"
Aaaah they knew it they KNEW it and we never noticed!
😂😂
"You are banned from leaving korea"
woah
Blueberry Cake this gave me chills.
Its so crazy how they predicted the future like that...
I don’t think they necessarily knew what was going on specifically but they knew Seungri would fall into trouble if he kept hanging around certain people. They saw he was getting too money hungry and that never ends well. TOP was genuinely concerned and that’s why I love him so much because he’s so observant. He warned Seungri and I bet they warned him even more off camera. But tbh Seungri is grown and should have know better. I thinks it’s real trash that people are blaming BIGBANG for Seungri’s problems.
EXACTLY 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 it’s very possible that the four others never knew FULLY what was going on, yet people are putting them on the same boat as Seungri which is disgusting. Seungri is the one guilty here
@Soru7 or maybe they disguised their serious warnings as humour.
We won't know unless we hear their side.
But honestly, even I notice that they're not a tight nit group.
And I'm not a fan.
It's little things that come off as funny, but combined show a different picture.
Little hints that there's something wrong, but played off as a joke to not get too much attention.
There are many ways to interpret all of this, but there are moments where they seem more genuine that you'd think at first.
Absolutely BB is one thing and Seungri another. He was always my least favorite and never really liked him. There was something about him that turn me off. He was not that attractive to me.
@@DA-sf3vs same here!! he didn't come off very genuine, like he was trying to be charming /likeable
@@jelena1278 , I don’t think they knew anything about what Seungri was doing!!! Not just that they didn’t FULLY knew. Seungri for sure wasn’t telling them, obviously, even if they would have asked him directly, so how could they know? It’s not like they could follow him around to see what he was up to. Yes they probably did had their suspicions regarding his many businesses, because they could see with what kind of people he was associating himself, they suspected that something fishy may happen, but they couldn’t act just on their own suspicions. They’re smart, so if they would have known they would have done something to stop him, maybe they would have even kicked him out of BB themselves, because they would have know that if this was to come out, the scandal will be huge and it would affect them too, not just Seungri. Which actually did happened. They wouldn’t have risked their own career and reputation just to cover for Seungri, no matter how much they cared about him. Because this kind of scandal doesn’t compare with a marijuana scandal. This was not something that they could have just ignored and pretend they know nothing. GD has trained for 11yrs, YB for 6 yrs, the most out of all the members ( the rest of them have just 1 yr of training or less ), I really don’t see them risking all of their hard work just to cover for Seungri. They wouldn’t put just 1 person above them all, even if that person was one of them.
OMG when GD said only 4 members in the next 5 years, i got chills.
same
When??
I agree but also think it was probably in regards to the military service, at least partially? idk
@@Sour_roses hmm do u watch the video ?
ikr
The fact that TOP was not laughing when they were describing his party just shows how disappointed he is with Seungri 😔 Fame really does change you.
In my humble opinion, fame/money/status does not change a person; it reveals who you truly are. Wishing everyone success, health, wealth, prosperity, happiness and much more. ✌
@@relakonecorner Exactly.
@@relakonecorner perfect comment. Money is only an amplifier for your true personality. Yet people keep believing that money changes people 😂 wishful thinking i guess.
@@divx1001 Agreed. How many people do we know that will admit their shortcomings? Easier to place the blame on other people or external factors rather than be a better person today than we were yesterday. 🙈
i mean, the women dressed as santa were probably prostitutes, etc. so of course top couldn't play it off even for the camera. He was utterly disappointed at the whole scene.
I just wish things were different...
I just wish Seungri listened to his hyungs
I just wish he wasn't so greedy, that he listened to TOP: "Money is not everything"
Relaxfying same :(
😢
We all wish
But we have to face the truth :(
I feel u
I wish we could just end this nightmare that someday someone shows up and tell us these were just rumors :(
I'm so sad for his father. He was super proud of his son then one day he wakes up and finds out what his son has been doing. He must feel ashamed and betrayed and must think that all the efforts he put into seungris childhood were useless.
I'm so confused I don't know what's going on
Angel Ruiz oh boy you missed a lot
@@coffee_in_the_evening go get a snack and a drink, sit yourself down, then look up the burning sun scandal.
@@aidoll3692 its not yet over, right?
@@Qwerty-ud1ir until the mist clears, it's safe to assume no. Even so, the scandal will still be etched to everything even remotely involved with this.
T.O.P has such a great personality
I don't care about the weed scandal he seems like a good person
@Space & Time No, he is an important member in Big Bang. He is an amazing rapper with a unique voice. G-Dragon mentioned before that the band cannot do without him, but can do without someone(he is hinting Seungri I believe).
Top's weed issue is nothing... absolutely nothing compared to seungri's scandal.
TOP has such a great personality
yes, compared with that one, he is pure as snow. And GD always says him like a child, he will always be my favorite.
Smoking weed won't harm other people.
It really says a lot about how desperate they were to try and knock some sense into Seungri that they (especially GD and TOP) were willing to discuss this so publicly. I’ve never seen/heard any other group express concerns about another member so openly.
Probably because there's no other way to communicate with seungri off stage too, since he always left his hyungs out and rarely meet up with them
True, they look so concerned. We can see they tried really hard to wake their friend up, what happened isn't their fault at all.
They have know him since he was around 14-15 years old, they literally watched him grow up. They knew where he was headed and wanted to stop that. A lot of fans forget that although GD is the leader TOP is the eldest. Him and GD did not want that type of lifestyle for him. But a some point you can't tell an adult what to do. They have to learn on their own
In korea you have to be careful what you say on tv
The fact theyre throwing him under the bus means they already tried everthing
Maybe hell get a wake up call. Apparently seungri head was harder that stone
@@BB4ever Oh I believe it, just look at Zico. He literally talked about the Golden Phone and the group chat on TV. And honestly nothing happened to his career. Like I get that he didn't go to jail due to no evidence 🙄. But the fact that he bragged about it, then released a song after he was acquitted of the charges. And on top of that had a the nerve to use a female singer to get his song to chart more. That was for me the last straw on any hope for K entertainment
Seungri, some people would love to pay to get friends like your hyungs. Even one... ONE true friend is precious. You got 4 and just turn them down.
You don't really KNOW them though. They might be very much alike.
There are some people with no friends, but Seungri has 4 loving friends who would die just to see him happy, and he just shuts them out and hurts them. I used to love Seungri, but he's very narcissistic and mildly sexist.
If you see this the other way around maybe seungri kept them out this (the scandal) by shutting them down as you say but im not defending seungri here i just thought that this is the only thing that seungri made right , kept the other members out of his 'business' 🙂
@@gordonramsayslambsauce im not updated but what did sungre do
Kpop is my aesthetic and hired prostitution helped with rapping women and video taping it too
I feel like GD knew Seungri was trying to slowly break away from BigBang, not as a group but the members themselves so he could run his 'businesses' without them being so close. I think GD and T.O.P had a feeling something like this would happen and they wanted to keep an eye on him until the last possible second. That's why GD was so upset about Seungri not celebrating with them for his birthday. I feel like it was less about Seungri being alone and more about them not being able to watch him to make sure he didn't do some fuck shit like this. I feel like everything Seungri taught me. All of the cheerful things he showed me were a lie and I'm just so so angry at him.
Ella Cameron I hear that GD knew Seungri didn’t want to make music anymore
@@champagnepapi1584 I agree, he seemed less interested in the music portion and more invested in his music. That Seungri album was likely to be a contract obligation and not something he really wanted to do
@@champagnepapi1584 I think taehyang was trying to make him get into music again around the time he was getting married as well.
I feel the same rn 😟
i also think gd wasnt nly angry cuz of seungris future but because of his future with the members too. as he said it was his last chance to celebrate with them and seungri seemed ignorant. i am not a vip and maybe i understood something wrong but thats what i think
Seriously TOP scandal is nothing compared to this! Weed is flipping legal in some countries like bruh!! I feel bad for TOP for feeling guilty and receiving hate
Doom dada xD
What TOP did is something minor that didn't hurt anybody. What Seungri did hurt a lot of people.
Really, miss top so much much much. Feel bad for him.
Really, miss top so much much much. Feel bad for him.
I never hate TOP
the feeling of seeing your closest friend, someone like a sibling drift apart and go on the road of self destruction hit close to home. 4:28 these lines GD said made me feel so sad. "you did nothing to celebrate your birthday with your hyungs. you knew we wouldn't be able to do it next year. But you threw a party." "you'll be ALONE next year". Just imagine how heartbreaking it must be for them to see their maknae turn into a completely new person right before their eyes 💔.
That’s true…. He threw his birthday party for all those vip people of power. He was now captured in their circle. Very scary one.
he's so sick
And GD knows what maknae did will ruin the big bang reputation too😢
Two types of scandals in the Kpop industry
1. Dating
2. Seungri
Lmfao kill me
Two types
1:scandals from yg ent
2: everything else
@@nikitasu1643 TEA
3. When Daesung run his car over a motorbiker
@@thaliawagner8206 That's not scandal, it's tragic accident
I don’t think I’ve ever seen GD that angry before, when he was telling off Seungri about not inviting the group to his birthday party. Also basically called it when he said that Seungri was going to end up alone. Like you can really see he’s just fkn over everything to do with him. Plus TOP just looks depressed about it all and Dae and Taeyang just look so tired and annoyed.
Like you can really tell they all tried to stop his bullshit but Seungri was too far gone to want help or even consider them his friends anymore :/
At this stage, theyre probably thankful they werent invited to more of Seungri’s parties etc. Sounds like all his parties were just fronts for other dodgy dealings.
I think he said he’ll be all alone next year because all of the members(excluding seungri) will have to join the military next year(in that year). But gd sounds so done with seungri’s bs. I think bigbang will do just fine without seungri
TOP's attitude is what strikes me the most. It isn't something he can laugh about at all
iammt2 I’m sorry but why top didn’t laugh at 6:18?
@@okaa6734 The other members are joking about this display of wealth and TOP can't find it funny. Probably because he sees it as encouraging Seungri. A bit different but imagine if your friend did a prank and everyone laughed. It was dangerous but people laughed when they said "don't do that again!". The message doesn't get across because your friend sees people laughing/giving them attention first. They don't hear the warning. You, on the other hand, tell them with a straight face "don't do that again, it is dangerous"... I don't think you'd be able to laugh because you are concerned for your friend. Does that make sense? Sorry, on my phone so this is a bit garbled.
T.o.p suffered all that backlash and he's actually the best one in the group
wait backlash for?
@@RainyDay_5214 A weed scandal I think.
Big Bang are no stranger to scandal or controversy, TOP especially included. But the scale of this scandal and the frequency of other scandals with the other members of the same group -- we'll see... They've come back from seemingly devastating scandals & their loyal fans always manage to pool together to revive them. But this is one of the largest Kpop scandals known to date to come out of a large still very active group.
DOC: "Controversial Kings of Kpop" Part I - ua-cam.com/video/3tYhMLPGdsY/v-deo.html
Karine de Andrade People who smoke weed are always the best, they're usually calm and doesnt succumb to materialistic things that destroy their egos. People are just too quick to judge. Meanwhile some people are still on Seungri's side. There are some ways this world works we can never control. We just have to learn to stick to what's right and good.
F I Morally there’s nothing wrong with smoking weed, it’s literally safer than drinking alcohol, stop being a clown. TOP did not for a second even laugh as that might come across to Seungri like he was encouraging him. He genuinely seems like a lovely person and like he was just tired of Seungri
Damn GD and TOP were definitely not playing around at the end about being 4 in 5 years. They were dead serious. Taeyang and daesung might have just played along but they too knew.
I remember watching that radio star episode when it aired. Watching it now, the mcs make it sound funny since it's a show but I wasn't laughing one bit. Seungri played too many games, it's been a long time coming for him
Of course they were serious, because even if they didn’t knew exactly what crazy stuff he did, they had serious suspicions about his activities, considering the fact that he was surrounded by shady people/friends. Or maybe they simply thought that he will eventually leave BB to only concentrate on his businesses, and that’s why they said that. And with them 4 leaving for military, he would have been on his own, free to do God knows what, out of their sights, so of course they were concerned about BB’s future. I actually watched a video with them, and GD was telling Seungri to watch himself while they’re in the military, because if he does something wrong, BB as a whole will be affected too, not just him. He said it as a joke, from what I could see, but he was definitely worried about BB’s future. Imagine how disappointed he was to find out about this whole scandal while all 4 of them were in the military.
You can actually see it on his eyes, while the interview was going on. He looks so flustered and somewhat guilty, specially the part when T. O. P. was the one speaking.
They only said his friends were shady. Given that he was entering all short of business that even i wondered how his juggling all of them. He also owns a club monkey museum. Also some of his friends like jyj was involve in scandal . Also you might not know that rumors were spreading around about people he hang out with given that the industry is small
They only said his friends were shady. Given that he was entering all short of business that even i wondered how his juggling all of them. He also owns a club monkey museum. Also some of his friends like jyj was involve in scandal . Also you might not know that rumors were spreading around about people he hang out with given that the industry is small
I remembered one of jyj friend was in the variety show and a women was saying " i heard this and that about you guys " etc like she was saying they were bad people. So you might not know their are gossips about his friends given that korean entertainment is a small niche
Taeyang: "You were banned from entering the country." OHHHHHHH MY GOOOOOOD THAT'S BALLSY
Winona Daphne GOOSEBUMPS
Meanwhile 2019 Seungri banned from leaving Korea
SKSKSKSKKSKSKS
Winona Daphne I was SHOOK
Not so far from the actual future, tbh
top is a mood😬 staying serious when everybody's laughing
@moonlight T. O. P. definitely knows something is wrong with Seungri. How he can't hang out with them again and stuff.
Maybe he cant just fake a laugh when he knows something is definitely wrong. The other members are probably trying hard to laugh to cover up the shame from the growing issue.
@lazaroufer you are so right. I love TOP for that
because he knows
Scary right but who can blame him just because of 1 person from their group can lead them down anytime...not only Seungri the word Bigbang will always be next to his name...besides I think he respect girls and judging from his action he really doesn't like these types of hunters looking for a prey...how they predict the Bigbang future was really a warning for all of us but we just doesn't understand... he's just so good at deceiving people with his popularity...I really feel bad for his members
his dad just wants to play golf with him once a year :(
He needed to go "home" once in a while.
I just feel sad for his family.
That part broke my heart
it broke my heart srsly
T.O.P. does not look happy at all. I feel bad for the guy, watching the whole interview with the context of Seungri's issue. Like he does not take his Hyungs seriously, at all.
I'm also a VIP since 2009, but to be honest I always saw how Seungri was a little too full of himself, a little too egoistic, always desperately fighting for attention. The news surprised me for sure, but then again - they didn't... I remember these interviews, thinking the other members were just making friendly jabs at Seungri for the entertainment purposes, but now... it is SO clear that they were so desperate for Seungri to change his ways that they openly talked about his change of attitude even on national TV.
All I have to say is, I feel sorry for his family, for all the victims of his wrong-doings, and for the 4 members of BIGBANG, a group I loved so dearly for such a long time.
Don’t feel sorry for his families they were connected to it as well especially the parents
😫😫😫
@@favorsoe8248exactly disgusting shits
@@favorsoe8248 No wayyy How so?!!
Excuse me but the word VIP gives me the creeps now...... sorry😭😭
Seeing how the other four tried their best to "change" their youngest... It's really break my heart.....
😢
IKR. They wanted to help because of love for their maknae but it was out of their control
same :( they rlly loved him man
seriously...
*i dunno why everyone is still talking about T.O.P’s scandal but it’s **_NOTHING_** compared to SeungRi’s scandal. PERIODT.*
ツ expensive gurl ツ what he do?
Teddy Picker
He smoked weed to reduce his stress
Top just took drugs bcz of his depression. And it is legal in many other countries. He didn't harm anyone else. But S**ngri is disgusting. He treats women like commodities and money making machine. Mf
ツ expensive gurl ツ TOP literally smoked weed! Seungri was soliciting prostitution! They 2 are incomparable! Plus in my opinion TOP did nothing wrong!
Smoking weed is a scandal. What Seungri did is a straight up crime. And that's that on that 😤
" i just want to have a driink with you or play golf with you once a year" - dad
THE TEARS
What is the scandal about?? Please answer me cause I'm all in blank____....
MALDITA travel & tours he is in a group chat where he and other members of it are sharing videos with girls they had intercourse with without their consent.Most of theme were drunk or drugged. = rape.
MALDITA travel & tours also the club he owned was renowned for drugging girls and then raping them so he supplied girls to higher ups by drugging them.He was also involved in prostitution and tax invasions.
Wasn’t his mum not involved in the burning sun thing? Like she was a co something.. so I find it a bit hard feeling bad for his parents
sAME
TOP isn't just a handsome man with a great talent, His personality is also great.
Don't, he had his fair share of scandals also, I think this exposed the industry as a whole.
@@mydogsteppedona4431 His scandal is about weeds, it's not a big problem to other country since they made it legal but in korea it's issue since it's illegal from their country.
@@mydogsteppedona4431
source?
“Just trust me bro”
TOP loves Bob Marley
@@elliyxjle2216 to other countries sure. In most eatren countries it's not and it wasn't weed it was marijuana. It's not something as silly as weed, marijuana can fvck you up not sure if you know the crazy crimes that are related to drugs.
But safe to say the worst crimes I heard of wete related to people sho use drugs.
"When we become four" -Jiyong
GD predicted it already. :'(
This hurt hard...
i felt this shit
that "2017" video really says a lot already. the ot4 jokes, seungri being a "criminal" and "banned from the country" are happening already. ot4 know what's up. they tried helping seungri but he just wont budge :(
bruh the GD prediction and the way Taeyang says what a pity and banned from the country, the chills
Then, they planned this beforehand? They must know something. It's weird. GD's marriage, Taeyang's wife, Seungri's scandal and BigBang going to be four only.
@@farah2386 not necessarily. When someone keeps on acting in a weird or way that you know is dangerous, and could affect not only himself but everyone else, and no matter how many times you warned this person, this person just keeps doing it, your expectations are literally the worse. if one of my friends started to hang out with drug dealers, and he doesn't listens to my advices, I'll just leave and I can clearly see that in the future, he'll just get involved into that world and end up sooner or later dead. But I get what you mean.
@@dasuritorres7552 How about Daesung's cosmetic surgery? When that came next, are you sure that they aren't planning this before? GD said that to continue support them being four - that's not a way to say even if you knew that your member is bad. Who actually among them knew that this scandal going to be out? I mean, if your friend is a drug addict, are you that sure that your friend is going to be caught? Saying such things somehow showing that they knew what's going on in the future. Moreover, when they 'times travel'. What if they knew and just went with the flow? Your fame aren't yours to decide though - it's the company's.
While watching it, something went through my mind like, oh no do they already know that seungri is running that kind of business and while they're on military they exposed seungri's dirty doings?
@@farah2386 YB had been dating his future wife for a long time. Jiyong has talked about getting married in his mid-30's and wants a daughter. Please read this: The whole Time Capsule thing was a great opportunity for Jiyong to tell ri that HE'S OUT OF THE BAND. There is NO fortune telling. The members had made the decision that he had to leave. There are other videos out there about this. Jiyong was nervous...and kept wrapping the robe tightly around him as for protection. There is a video where Jiyong tells ri...'you are bored w/ going on our world tours. you are a businessman now. you found your path/way.' Jiyong was letting him down as easily as possible. Ri used Jiyong as a way to get attention. They joked w/ each other on stage...ri simply wiggled himself into the spotlight so he could get recognition...he wanted to use this recognition so to start businesses and make $$$ legally/illegally. Buying clubs/bars is a really stupid way for an idol to get involved w/ the business world...but ri liked the criminal side of this. The women, GHB, the videos, and using these establishments as a private hell for women who were drugged, raped and then thrown outside in an alley on a bench. May Ri learn the meaning of rape. This is the way of the World's Entertainment Clubs...all over the world Sex Slavery, GHB, innocent women gang raped. I can't wait to get off this planet.
All it takes is for the decent men to say/do nothing about this...and that's what has happened. Men still laugh at rape jokes...Decent men have to put a halt to this. They are the only ones who can stop women from being raped and used as sex slaves.
I can tell T.O.P is a nice person.
rosalie franco he really is he doesn’t deserve all the hate
He is a nice person
Right?! The big brother vibe is so real. He seems so caring. I hope he gets back on his feet again and gain confidence.
I don’t understand why people hate T.O.P The world doesn’t deserve a guy like him. He is too nice
He will be fine
GD spends his time on Jeju Island these days,” he explained, “so I went to visit him there. I wanted to have a meal and share a drink with him, but GD suddenly said to me, ‘Seungri, I’ll paint a picture for you.’
“So he sat me down and started painting with lots of colorful hues: red, green, yellow, blue. He was looking at me and expressing my energy through the paint. Then all of a sudden, he painted over all of it with black.”
Seungri went on, “Then he said, ‘This is yours.’ I asked, ‘What is this?’ He told me, ‘You’re there, behind the black. Always look inside of yourself
Is this from an interview? Can you please share the link? Sounds pretty deep, i really wanna watch.
@@Sangwoo_oncrack ua-cam.com/video/VRlCTYWuS7o/v-deo.html begins at 2:09
and another very sick kpop hater trying hard to look like a stan, while jumping on another hate train of another innocent idol. shame on you. if you cared one bit about bb, you would know that still life wasnt a comeback, it wasnt promoted or performed anywhere, its a song to tell us to wait until they are a full group with seungri again. they still stand behind him, so do all real kpop stans everywhere. you outed yourself perfectly here, so stop using kpop for attention.
trying to make him look bad again with taking things out of context, why dont you mention the fact that the black isnt meant as something bad? ah right, because then you cant justify your hate bandwagon against another innocent idol. lets also ignore the fact that gd used the same design for the nike shoes after he got discharged, which got sold out right away, despite every vip knowing what that design was. meaning the support for seungri is still huge, if you jealous loser likes it or not.
@@moonm8614
GodDAMN
That’s intense
after watching this, now i know actually big bang hyungs are the one who truly care for seungri. especially top. he's the one who really hates the idea of him always thinking about money, befriending with suspicious business friends, and more. i feel like top saying all the things he's said to seungri all the time. it's just seungri is too greedy he didn't listen to his hyungs' sincere advices and got backlashed.
and that christmas party he's been talking about, i think that's one of those party he provide prostitution to his business partner
abigail xx uhmm I dont agree with drug and illegal taking video of the women without their consent and whoever did that should pay for their crime. but prostitution is part of the deal and that’s how they make connection with those businessmen from other countries. we are living in a strange world, yes. Those prostitutes got money from it.
@@bigbelly5519 in some countries, prostitution is illegal, the same goes in South Korea. in my opinion, prostitution is considered as human trafficking, because they're traded with money. so it's still a crime and they should pay for it too. it's the same with drugs and taking sex vids illegally.
@@bigbelly5519 sex without love is always immoral and deserving of harsh harsh punishment. Weed it harmless and actually has been shown to be good for you if used correctly... so
@@benp9793 of course prostitution, drugs and illegal sextapes are VERY bad, but you don't need love to have sex, there are people who enjoy casual sex and that's perfectly fine, as long as it's between two *CONSENSUAL ADULTS*
@@benp9793 also, I'm in *NO WAY* defending Seungri and/or what he did, he deserves to be punished for that. I just said that (my other comment) because I wanted to clarify something
TOP for me is the most genuine, kind, sensitive and soft hearted member. I don’t care about his “scandal”. It’s completely acceptable in other countries, and so much more safer than alcohol. Plus, it’s not like he harmed anyone.
He did
Notjasaesthetix J who did he harm?
@@nl7887 the korean lawmakers' feelings lol
Notjasaesthetix J Yes. I think as a human being, we all probably already unintentionally harmed someone. I was comparing his “scandal” with other artists’ more serious scandals.
dbxbqm rPwjd you’re being too technical just for the sake of proving my comment invalid, but you know exactly what I meant with my comment. So thank u, next.
After i watched this video, i think Seungri didn't respect his hyungs at all, he didn't listened to them because he was so full of himself and became greedy. Just like T.O.P said he talks about money, only being nice with his hyungs on stage, even threw a party without inviting his hyungs seriously ? Its like he didn't care about their feelings at all. He became arrogant and i feel like he became a celebrity to gain influence and make money from there. Gosh i hate this guy.
He's not grateful at all for having friends and fans. I feel sorry for the other member and the fans. He did many things like without thinking about the effect to his friends, family, and others. Now I know why GD so strict towards him.
ikr i can’t believe i stanned him for all these years .. he rlly is just an ungrateful ass
I was honestly one of his biggest fans, and could never understand the hate he got. But the more I look back the more the signs are there.
I always had this instinctive thought that something wasn't right, but I ignored it. I regret that so much.
And I feel so bad to the other seungri fans who have to go through the whole 'did this really just happen?' Phase.
Tbh I'm still in that phase. I don't support him in any way. What he did was wrong and he should get punished, but I can't help but grieve for the seungri I loved.
Ya, im with u.
Man.. we act as if we know him personally lol everything thats said on tv has always heavily filtered and scripted regardless of what the other big bang members said
Seungri was always that one that had so many SO MANY red flags that we all saw but kind of ignored excusing it as his personality, honestly when the whole club scandal came out i was shocked but definitely not surprised, it was just a matter of time for something like that to come to light. Also BB members being so lighthearted when talking about all those stories of his parties and night outs and hinting that they'd be 4 in the future and just laughing it off... damn
Yes!! Do you remember the scandal with the japanese girl? Since that day I knew he was a shitty person
@@BB4ever GD didn't even like seungri at the beginning. My man should have listened to his intuition.
@@BB4ever Yes! 😊
@@emiliequinol7828 which scandal
But it's not like everyone knew who he was before, before all the news and exposed. No one talked about his “red flags” back then because no one noticed, until now, when we all know all the shit he was involved in. Too easy. Everyone just understood now, and analyzed these old videos and connected them to what we know now. analyzed these old videos and connected them to what we know now. No one in the past could have imagined that he was like this, not even in his most sinister fanfics. It's easy to talk now about "was always that one that had so many SO MANY red flags", now that you know about the truth, but in the past, you would never connect everything to what he was involved in and could guess. That's not how things work. This sounds like as if people are to blame for not "noticing" something that again, NO ONE COULD EVER GUESS, rather than himself
Damn i don’t even like nor stan BigBang But i sincerely respect TOP and his point of view towards this situation.
BIG FACTS !! 😍
As a VIP, I totally agree!
Same
Damn blonde nayeon
What’s his point of view? 🤔
*You can tell how his parents predicted the danger. They must be so disappointed by him.*
A parent can never be disappointed with their kids. They only worry.
Selene parents can definitely be disappointed in their kids . I’m sure seungris parents are VERY disappointed
Ti'Zhanna Carter IKR
@@Kuskdk A parent? Never disappointed? You must have had one good childhood lol. My parents have definitely been disappointed in me before
your parents being disappointed in you is definitely one of THE worst feelings in the world.
ot4 Big Bang were like: i knew you were trouble when you walked in
So shame on YOU now
OH! OH! TROUBLE!! TROUBLE!! TROUBLE!!
I always stanned ot4
I never liked Seungri, he always seemed so fake to me
He smiled but he had very weird aura around him
Yeah.. I feel it to since the begining.. Especially since i watch big bang documentary or backstage.. I don't really like him cause he smell fake...
Honestly i was one of his blind hand men i had no idea to me he was a total sweet heart....now i see the strange behavior looking back at it all...i see all of the signs it was all there!....i was a fool to think he wasnt fake....i didnt understand why people backlashed him....now i see
Came here after Rotten Mango's informative video about the scandal. My V.I.P self finally aware as some information were hard to gather and difficult to create a conclusion regarding this scandal :( It was sad how GD kind of imagined the situation in advance 14:01. Everyone's messages to the 5-year prediction that was heartbreaking as well :((
SAMEEE
also from stephanie's video- the % year prdiction broke my VIP heart
The small hints we should have known like when Uee said that he was too touchy and everyone attacked her for being rude. Or when the rest of the members of bb told seungri to not be so materialistic - especially top who was worried about him and his new friends, how gd dissed seungri in his songs about his friends and how seungri didn't even invite bb to his bday party. Zico deleting him from his phone contacts. Jennie saying she was uncomfortable around him and when he offered to help her with SOLO and she didn't reply which made people call her a bitch. Or when Jennie and BP called him out on stage for spreading rumours about Jennie touching him.or when he asked JHopes sister for Hanis information and contact details and she refused to do it. It's disgusting and the fact people actually still support him?! It's shocking ugh , it's people like this who get away with horrible actions and disgusting things such as raping women, imagine if that was your younger sister, it genuinely surprised me about his support, why are people so dumb?! Dam I'm pissed, lol sorry for the rant
Edit: for one person who is very triggered and butthurt in the comment section, I am just going to say that I am not critisizing any of these idols, I'm in fact praising them. And no I don't want to start a 'key board fight'
Edit 2:I'm a bp stan, I wouldn't hurt them ever! I'm a fan of uee and have watched tons of dramas with her staring in. I like watching zico preform and I'm an army, I wouldn't hurt these innocent idols for no reason, STOP TWISTING MY WORDS
can you post linkes to what you mentioned ??? i looked them up on google but didn't find a thing
@@missa94ib23 okay, with the zico thing, just type in UA-cam , seungri and zico phone number
Also just search Jennie calling out seungri in concert or Jennie feels uncomfortable around seungri, it IS there, not on Google on UA-cam
or when Taeyeon opened up about a male senior harassing her, threatening her and multiple times calling her and doing that. People called her everything but im just wondering, im pretty sure its him.
@black pink in your area
All the sources you mentioned *YT videos* are not legit I checked em all and there's no credit or proper trustworthy source
So stop collecting and connecting whatever you feel that would fit cuz all you do by this is 1- spreading rumours and starting gossips 2 attracting people with groundless assumptions like yourself and starting fanwar craze
Seungri is guilty and we all know this , you don't have to add up to it to look cool.
14:03 Did you see T.O.P'S face when Seungri freaked out? He was not playing his face literally said *"You think this is a joke? Nah man you gotta go.."*
i just noticed that, he was nodding solemnly
Holy heck
hE EVEN NODDED
Kandy Crusher he was like ‘that’s right bitch’
Please shut up cuz you know nothing ab Bigbang. The hyungs always love the maknae and just wanted to warn him against his bad friends. They never want anyone to leave and TOP nodded bcuz he is a serious person who care so much for his members.
Notice everything GD and TOP are saying. It weighs a lot
Y’all gotta know that T.O.P is a Scorpio. Not to sound like a smart ass but Scorpio has pretty accurate intuitive, if he finds your “friends” are worrying, you better check your back.
@@LleoneLevano yep, Scorpios see through the bull shit. And T.O.P definitely saw through the bull shit. I always felt like Sugeri was always jealous of his members especially GD. Like he irked him that he was the left over member. The other four members of BB had talent and love for music. Sugeri just wanted to be the most popular, have the most money and wanted to brag about it.
@@jacquelinelugo5518 this is very true. Anyone with intuition could see it from a mile away. He hated that he was always the least popular member and was always insecure about being the least talented, so he sought out other avenues where he could be "the best"
@@dbsksarangx3 Exactly, even the members commented when they would get around him. All he did was talk about money and where he went. It probably upset him that one album of his couldn't out sell one song of GDs. The jealousy and low key attitude he had towards his members was easy to spot once you know where to look.
I can really relate to what TOP is feeling and seeing. We're both Scorpios.
Wow. It's been 5 years since 2017. Everything Jiyong said came true...
Ikr, it's crazy
Man i got chills...
😭😭😭
I would definitely support OT4 Big Bang. Seungri can go rot in jail.
The real tea🍵🍵
Okay what does OT4 stand for?? Everyone says it but ig im just stupid lmao😅
@@athena9511 One true four. I think the original saying was OTP - one true pair, people change it. I don't think you're stupid. The internet lingo is real confusing sometimes. :D
@@iminkki ohh that's what it was
At least Seungri is nicer than Kim Jong Un tho.
(I'm Not KPOP Fan)
TOP is a good man, a good hyung who really cared for his dongsaeng. He's also a really intelligent man. I've got this friend of mine who've met him as Big Bang went to her family's restaurant. Top asked her if her feet hurt and asked her to change shoes because she was wearing heels. I understand he broke the korean law, but I can tell he's really a good man who loves what he's doing, who loves music, and cares for his members
Caristalalala Tan T.O.P. didn’t break the law, it was Seungri?
Okay, I read that he smoked weed, but that is not even remotely close to what Seungri did, and it doesn’t matter if he smoked weed because he can still be a good person
@@jungkookiemylove188 lol he smoked weed and that IS breaking the law in Korea.
Caristalalala Tan yeah it’s illegal in Korea, but just because you smoke weed doesn’t mean you’re a bad person?
@@jungkookiemylove188 I literally just fking called TOP a good man, wtf is wrong with you? Your points are ever-changing. First you told me TOP didn't break the law which he did and next you're like yea he broke the law but it doesn't make him a bad person. Firstly, he broke the law and that's that. However, I never said he was a bad person.
"don't make me a criminal".... you made yourself a criminal and your members just predicted exactly what was gonna happen
the saddest female exactly!! 👏👏👏👏👏
YES SIS
Yessssss gurl
BTW I love your picture♡
@@anerizenwhippedforjungwoo6372 I know right 😘
He hasn’t been convicted has he?
That "Dont make me a criminal" give chills to me
T.O.P looked so serious when gd said that there were only going to be 4 members in the future.
They were all serious about it- because they knew what was coming
time stamp?
@@jessadeluna2790 13:55
I'm not a fan but its so sad watching it. I think gd kinda sad when saying it. watching this actually his close ppl care and worries about him
well of course they all knew what seungri was up to. It's just the matter of time before he was caught
wow GD literally wrote in a song about seungi's friend trying to offer him 'pretty girls' HOW DID WE NOT KNOW
Cuz maybe we refused to acknowledge that seungri was capable of doing such disgusting things
bc i don’t speak korean 😪
No wonder his ideal girl is a mannequin. One who doesn’t have ulterior motive or used by people with ulterior motives.
I think maybe cus ya know how its very westernized and very common to have like drug annotations or relatations about weed,smoking etc in songs, so maybe when people heard that in a song, people just commonly would have thought of that as just trying to sound and being "swaggy" ya know? So thats why people didnt even pick up on it that time. Which is of course, a common thing to think so since after all its done so many times and its just a song.
@@akabaneaki Good grief. Go read the lines again. Ri's 'friends' approached Jiyong and said they knew Ri and asked for Jiyong's phone # and that they knew some pretty girls and Jiyong asked 'Who are you?' ri and his 2 rapist buddies are in tons of videos together, went on vacation together, photos, etc. It was NO secret that they these 3 were good friends. Weren't these lyrics from Bullshit? Or was it Middle Fingers Up?
Jiyong was angry when he wrote those songs...Superstar as well. He had enough of the drama, lack of privacy, rumors about him, etc. Plus Jiyong knew Ri had used him and BB to gain $$ and a name. Ri wanted to stay in BB not for the music but for the name recognition. Ri betrayed them all.
So many people causing so much drama...no wonder Jiyong wrote Bullshit and Middle Fingers Up...please show some common sense.
I feel like that TOP is the father of BigBang because he always knows what's best and worries about Seungri's decisions. And like a father he is disappointed. :(
Im not a superfan..just listening to their music once in a while..and in this vid i see TOP is like the most responsible in a way
As someone who also lost a friend (friend chose their own self-destructive path), I feel deeply for the members. That feeling of having the person you once knew become a whole new person right before your eyes. It’s not a nice feeling when you desperately try and salvage your friendship only to end up in this sort of situation because that person takes for granted all the people who used to care for them.
Yeahhh i feel the same
Their prediction is creepy" dnt make me a criminal" 😔
Maybe they knew something and were hinting at the truth 🙄
Their awkward laugh after he says that is even creepier. They definitely knew some of it- they wouldn't have known everything, but the general vibe.
I know. And the way Seungri kept stopping them and asking questions, trying to pass it as a joke now makes sense! When they said in 5 years there will only be 4 members, they all were talking about him and he knew it.
Seungri never looks comfortable. When we live a guilty life, our conscious will never leave us alone. Live a clean life and be happy. Big Bang was right... he surrounded himself around horrible people. Everyone saw it coming except the fans since we don’t know the inside of his life
That's so true. He always looks awkward/nervous in clips.
xjellybeans x I think ri was playing a role for the entire time he was w/ BB. I don't think he even knew himself...just a con artist w/ a big streak of misogyny. The arrogance kept him going...
I honestly hope that when GD gets back he slaps the everloving shit out of Seungri
I was hoping all 4 of his hyungs do that tbh..
I’m hoping he’s in prison by the time gd gets back!!
I'd pay to see that irl
*Insert Name Here* right?
gd comes back cracking his knuckles while approaching Seungri
GD: *listen here you little sh-*
For those who said that Bigbang members are guilty because "They are close, they know it. They are guilty of association." did you blame Ted Bundy's wife for murder too? She knows there is something off about him, but not the extent of his crime. Same with Bigbang members. They have different schedules outside of their group and have friends. How they spend each other's free time is not their business. Seungri chose his own path. Don't blame the others for his crimes.
Seungri didn't even invite them to his parties, how much more of his activities outside of their group. They know what kind of crowd Seungri associated himself with that's why they were calling him out and have given him warnings. But Seungri is an adult capable of making decisions. He chose not to listen to his members. It's not their problem anymore. They have done their part. It's similar to encouraging your alcoholic mother to stop drinking, but at the end of the day, your mom will make the decision herself.
Lastly, don't trust your idol is innocent. We only see what they wanted us to see.
they are guilty because they knew and stayed quiet for the band ! So now Don't come blaming people
The guys is out and say I will bring you gd , because they are still friends...
@@Jsarmy87124 they knew something was up with him but not the exact crime he did. Do you have any idea what your friend did with her another group of friends? And we cannot change his relationship with GD. They've been together for so long but that doesn't mean GD is guilty for Seungri's crime. If your friend cheated on his bf, do you cut her off immediately? Bottom line is do not blame or include someone for a crime he didn't commit. It's Seungri's crime alone and his so called friends.
I assume the members didn’t know the extent of Seungri’s crimes before everything was exposed. I would hope that if any of them had found out about date r*pe and filming without knowl/consent that they would do the right thing, which I guess would be reporting to the authorities
4:28 i can feel Jiyong madness here. He was really mad.
"And you did nothing to celebrate with your hyungs? But you threw a party? When you have so many other chances to do it? When we wouldn't be able to join your party next time?"
He sounded angry but more than that you could feel the hurt in his voice. It's just heartbreaking.
@@christinaa8531 it's true, mad and sad and heart-broken
Even iKon had some idea of what Seungri was doing. He had all those files on his computer.
Lmao watching porn has nothing to do with that
@@xiaotingstanacc7992 Ikon never explicit say it was commercial porn, secret recordings of women are still porn
@@p.budiel1170 they said it was, it was even categorized by actresses
I remember when that episode came out and it was just a big laugh. It's crazy how badly that episode aged and how sinister it really was.
eh that’s a just a kid watching porn aldnakdk he was like 16 when he lived in those dorms, doesn’t have much to do with this which is taking place over a decade later
"But once he comes down the stage he never stays with us."
Seungri, what have you done?
So many bad things. Just so many horrible things.
@@Midnight0Mistress what bad things and link them
@@Diasoar ua-cam.com/video/ztCBLzwedKE/v-deo.html
The burning sun scandal.. you'll realise how horrible he is
@@Diasoar wasn't he the owner of the club where burning sun happened? that's enough of bad things I think
@@quuenbanaana8425 no he was not
In all honesty, seungri looking more and more shady wasn't started from one thing. it was a collection of things and behaviors that led to him looking more and more suspicious until he was caught. it wasn't just him moving out of the dorms. it wasn't just him starting his own business. it wasn't just him branching out to other careers. it wasn't just him going overseas a lot. it wasn't just him partying a lot. it wasn't just him roleplaying the real life great gatsby. it wasn't just him opening up Burning Sun and co-owning it. it wasn't just his career being a DJ. It wasn't just his flash drive with hundreds of folders filled with porn under actress' names. it wasn't just his members giving out cryptic messages about how he should be careful. It wasn't just him ignoring everyone who was close to his, big bang or his family.
All of these things don't sound susipcious by themselves, but if we add them altogether, there is a picture to be seen and it's not pretty. it's a series of actions that show seungri as a man who cared about business and having fun partying like every shady rich person in a movie. He prioritized making money, but also having fun rich orgies (joke but possibly true lmao). which makes him careless and that carelessness is what made him get caught in the end.
and like the Great Gatsby, Seungri is a man who went to the top of the world only to fall down from his own pedestal. He is an Icarus who flew to close to the sun and burned to ashes in shame. now he sits behind bars for various charges including prostitution (from that great gatsby party), embezzlement, bribery, illegal gambling, and violation of foreign currency exchange and food hygiene laws.
And human trafficking, doing drugs, sexual assault and rape which recentally came out. And yet he's still out living freely cheating on women. Wonder how some women are still attracted to him.
15:07
“TY: you were banned from entering the country”
...well... he’s banned from leaving Korea by now :/
that's good, the world doesn't need more scum like him!
Username Checks Out That’s kinda rude, calling him scum. I don’t really know what he did, but he is still a human with a soul of his own. He needs people who want him to succeed still, one of them being me
James Sherman are you mental or something?? This man drugged and had sex with women and filmed it without consent and you want him to succeed????? You’re just as sick as him!
@@bigmeatyclawzz just do a quick Google search. there's been over 100 cases of kpop idols raping girls or CEO's selling their idols out to have sex with investors. what seungri did is bad indeed, but just remember Jang ja-yeon was forced to have sex multiple times with over 20 men, later committed suicide because of it. guess what? the CEO got 1 year in jail and 160 hours of community service. and she wasn't the only person in that company. that's just 1 of the hundred of cases this has happened. again sure what seungri did is horrible but people are way too surprised and shocked by it
@@neeko708 Just because these things happen in SKorea doesn't make the things Seungri has done seem less horrible. Yes, people are surprised and shocked by it because these people are disgusting and sick.
I've read about Jang Ja-Yeon and i can't imagine what she had to go through, I also feel so incredibly sorry for the other women.
When they started talking about being 4 and not 5, notice how Seungri was the only one laughing and everybody else got depressed. They all knew what was coming.
On god like he was nervous
But they would still stay with YG who is the littéral father of that mess.
@@hao9508 Let's wait and see what they do next. I kinda understand them not leaving the company since they are a big reason for why that company even thrived. But they've only just ended their military service so they deserve at least a few months to regain their bearing. Lowkey hoping they either buy out the company themselves or leave and start their own label.
@@kirampd4545 I just want them to be healthy and happy at this point. I can wait for new music but it's just sad to see all that's happening
Last dance was a goodbye to all of us, i doupt bigbang will come back as four, but i am happy that the other members are clean and that they tried their best with him i am sure they talked publicly about these things because they know he cares about his image, damn 2019 has been going downhill
im not a fan but TOP seems like he was genuinely concerned about him. makes me so sad to think what Seungri did. TOP seems like a great person :((
He is
MEEE
Yes, I hope TOP is completely okay now. I was really sad to what he said "We weren't like this in the past".
@@sassysassy9950 what did seungri do
@Juliana __
It honestly disgusts me
Ik that Goo Hara also helped
This honestly breaks my heart, TOP being concerned and even when drunk telling Seungri his friends do not have his best interests at heart, truly hurts. 3:19 and that conversation makes my heart hurt.
TOP is the most genuine and kind person on planet earth. He provided wisdom to his youngest but he didn't listen, and that's sad, not only for him but for the other 4 members. I just am disgusted... nothing else to say really.
I feel so bad for G-Dragon, Taeyang, T.O.P and Daesung! And his family! They definitely deserved a better Maknae and a better son! Seungri is such a greedy idiot! Feels bad man!
I cant believe nobody actually disagrees.
does anybody know if his ramen shop is still in operation or..?
And girls that have been raped
@taelien kim i see what you did there *blue shirt kid*
@@Iiterally if it is open I figure it won't be in Korea. Imo his reputation is also gonna take a hit in Japan too. So I don't know about a Japan but definitely not Korea.
"Don't make me a criminal" 😞😞 15:14
His hyungs knows his future.. So sad 😞
😢
15:14 *
I was abt to comment this😂
His hyungs already know him so well. They were trying to help him but there was only so much they can do
I always think seungri is an outcast...his personality and style are so different from the group. I thought he was bubbly and funny at first but in hindsight he was just always eager to show people that he's funny and want to be the spotlight in the room. Who is watching this now that BigBang is finally back?
I was thinking that too, he was always different but I couldn’t pinpoint why. But this is showing that he always deep dived into things and people he had no business being apart of and connected to. They tried to tell him to stop and think but it caught up to him
Now TOP is gone, and by the looks YG no longer has any of the remaining BigBang members on their roster either
Seungri (2017) : “Don’t call me a criminal”
Us (2019): “We don’t know what else to call u”
Damn the second last clip really exposed him. The fact that the members already knew he was gonna be a criminal, oof they were probably the ones who exposed him
Jenica They had every right to. They were fed up with his bullshit and he never listened. Therefore I wouldn’t be surprised if they were the ones to expose him.
I wonder...how are his parents now? His father specially brought me to tears. He looks so proud of him, but all this ...I bet it is like a stab in the heart
He seems like a dad that would scold and then tries to encourage him, might be one of the best criteria of a dad.
And mine left to buy cigarettes 9 years ago hasn't came back since
@@zero_s Oh my! All the power to you. Live well.
ua-cam.com/video/wzbjpo8TPS8/v-deo.html. Seungri is innocent. Get informed and apologize for spreading wrongful hate
@@lewislikesbread lmao I'm literally laughing
@@gdragonsbiggestfan4006 Isn't he arrested or something lol
The "hyungs knowing your future" part gave me goosebumps. Wow
- Jung joonyoung, singer (5years prison) / Choi jonghoon, member of FTisland(2years prison) : gang rape, illegal filming..
- Seungri(Victory), member of Bigbang (18 months prison) : arrangement of prostitution, drug etc(about 9 criminals)
- Yoon gyugeun, ex police superintendent($15000) : close relationship between prostitution, destruction of evidence
Its very nice conditions to make criminals in Korea.😢😂
@@Illilllilll It's crazy how they just got a slap in the wrist
@@Illilllilllmen in korea get basically no punishment
@@Starlight06wasn't he involve in drug controversy?
@@btsismyoxyjin2013 I think so yeah
Seungri hurt a lot of people. And just watching his parents tell him that they’re concerned and him blatantly shrugging it is off is killing me. I bet the members and his parents are ashamed to have know and trusted such and awful person. His personality in general just clashes with mine but my heart is broken for his loved ones.
찬해 Don’t even get me started on that lol. I can’t understand why someone would still support him after everything that’s been shown. I understand what it’s like to love a kpop band member and want to believe that’s not what really happened. But it is. He did it. And I can’t look past that. But that’s just me.
Cami Kellems his parents are so worried and trying to steer him right. I can’t believe the way he treated them in the clip.
Rose Redmayne i know they seem so sweet! You can tell how proud but worried they are and he’s so uncaring.
@@Jiffypizza I saw some fans say that the girls that were filmed and stuff should've enjoyed it. How the hell do you come up with that? I can't believe the ppl that still support him.
It's_Ellie I’ve seen something similar to that where they were saying the girls were lucky enough to even be noticed by him. And that since he’s and idol it’s okay. Like really that’s sick! No matter what status or title it’s still wrong.
Honestly since he get so serious with his business, I kept being worried and seeing GD, T.O.P, Taeyang & Daesung showing their concerns about Seungri made me even more worried.
I never trust his business or showbiz contacts, I smelled something fishy since the beginning. When I saw that he didn’t want to join the army together with his hyungs because of his business, it’s how I knew BIGBANG wasn’t his priority anymore...
I always knew Seungri was more of a businessman than a singer, GD is the artist, T.O.P is the celebrity, Taeyang is the performer and Daesung is the entertainer. They all made and fit in the entertainment market but Seungri was always more of a CEO, someone who like to control and make profits.
He always talked about the business aspect of all his work, while the others talked about the artistic aspects of their work....
Nevertheless I thought he would still protect BIGBANG and show that we were wrong, that he’s capable to represent BIGBANG alone... I’m so disappointed right now....
The fact that T.O.P warned him and he still ignored him shows how high above the clouds he was
YOu made a lot of good points. Nothing wrong with wanting to be an Entrepreneur but it was wrong the way he went about it trying to get rich and powerful the quick and dirty way. We can only speculate if he got in the entertainment world for the glamour to begin with, rather a pure love for the art, and got carried away as fame came because his focus had been fame all along.
i feel sorry for his parents the most smh 😭
Woooww so on point.. 😔😔
Makes me sick to remember all the times they've doted on him, the fond way they referred to him, how they fought for him to have more lines and center time even though yg was reluctant :'^(
Those messages from GD and TOP talking about how should they bond and stick together made me cry. 😭
maryela dyanin yes Bigbsng is GD hard work to make it whole and stay it that way since the beginning he is the in who convince TOP to try 2nd time audition on YG after been rejected same on Taeyang and Dara but I really have me thinking is the three person when they go back to YG for 2nd try Audition YG sign them with a contract I can't sense GD gave do something to secure there place on YG until now he is working to make BB whole not separated and Dara stay on YG with him
Around 3:50 TOP sounds so much like a concerned father for Seungri, he really looked out for him. When I first watched this video I didn't pay much attention because the scandal wasn't out and I could not understand Korean. I think the compilation gives a lot of proper foreshadowing into the scandal's manifestation.
Exactly. TOP knows it's not healthy for an artist to be overly obsessed with money. At least that's how he feels it. I totally respect TOP for that insight on Seungri. GOAT.
3:50
@@franklynnyein127 They knew that Seungri's values were going off the rails- he stopped caring about his family, stopped caring about his adopted BIGBANG family.. It really is a great gatsby tale.
I think his hyungs really cared for him and wanted to help but they couldn’t. It was beyond their abilities to help
@@Tridentus It seems he wanted to be Gatsby, but never saw or learned the meaning of the end of Gatsby.
TOP seemed genuinely done with Seungri, GD as well.
I love the other four members for standing their ground and not getting involved with Seungri’s mess.
Uncle fish ( haru's uncle i forgot his name srry) but hes th3 guy that has curly like hair at the right (the clip of the 5 years) . Well he looks like he nothing to do with this. Its my opinion i wont fight back
@@user-cq8lo7tx1r uncle fish is Daesung 😊
ua-cam.com/video/wzbjpo8TPS8/v-deo.html. Seungri is innocent. Go apologize
Gdragons Biggestfan I don't think if he wasn't guilty he would look all regretful and shit when he went to the police station :)
@@user-wk6kp1mz1p okay boomer
I was always under the impression that Seungri NEEDED attention. That if he wasn't in the spotlight at all times, he would do whatever it takes to get it. This translates well to variety, but not for a grounded and level-headed person. GD had natural, cool charisma, T.O.P. had the deep voice, Taeyang could dance, Daesung was goofy and an amazing vocalist.... Seungri was absolutely included in the group for his variety talents and not much else.
He was noticeably less popular than every other member and he knew it--what better way to distinguish himself than by reveling in the business side of nightlife? He basks in attention and drowns in women every night. Ultimately, when you take away all the fame he has nothing.
His narcissistic, constant cravings for attention ultimately consumed him. It's sad, really.
(Not sad enough for me to feel bad tho)
I feel bad for the other members who tried to raise him right while also raising themselves. They really tried to look out for him and he showed the highest disrespect to the people who cared about him by being a greedy, creepy little amoeba.
In a world of showbiz, you need to make use of whatever cards you have. In many cases, it is talent. Perhaps Seungri knew that he's not that talented compared to his hyungs. Looking from a third person's perspective it's easy to say that he's the type that can be manipulated easily. Because he decided to take on business, it is inevitable that he will fall since dealing with most business partners are never easy. Plus, he's a famous idol in which they will definitely take advantage. He went from fame to infamy which can never be recovered over time.
I don't think Seungri had less attention in the past. As a fan for 10 years, the 3-driving fans crazy with the outlook was always G-Dragon, Top, Seungri. Daesung didn't even have a spotlight until 2012. Taeyang wasn't impressive because he was short and too humble. I think what Seungri really wants isn't fame. He seriously wants money.
@@zeazja "he seriously wants money" wow that's scary
The worst is Seungri has no regret. He think he is over the law, and he can do anything without penalty. And what you know? It is true because of the corrupt system, police, politicians...... It is shame.....
Now he's like that unwelcome parasitic friend who doesn't know how to take a hint and whom you wish you never met. BB members never mention him anymore, even cropped him out of a photo, etc.....yet he still has the balls to name-drop them in public.
that "pool party" looks so awkward
looks like just random people paid to fill up the space
Winona Daphne thats actually one of the most crowded club(i've been there,alot)
The only awkward one was him. Did you see what homeboy was wearing?
@@berilo.8044 if he wear only swimming pants like he would normally in pool party ppl would say here omg look at him naked like animal. how perverted, iT iS a SiGn. Like the whole video. That's the positive aspect of his life being framed as negative. Like when he do charity after party. it is not a lie. he always do charity after party since 2011 with jinusean or his parents.
Go search famous club in Bali
those sorts of parties are overrated anyway
I've always felt that Seungri has that weird aura to him that whatever he does, he's my least favorite member in Big Bang
I've always felt the same to be honest
Not a fan,but I watched some vids of big bang and ngl I always felt kinda strange around Seungri. Like,idk..he just had that aura
Tbh I always forgot he was a member of Big Bang. I wasn’t in to them that much but they’re songs are cool.
Oh no
Lol
I can picture TOP feeling something is wrogn with seungri but never having enough proof and stressing over it
What if this leads TOP to use weeds? I heard he use weeds coz of stress. Hmmm never mind.
Seeing all the clips are fine but the clip of GD and T.O.P telling him and basically being his elder brothers and guiding him and yet he ignores them and also the clip where he did not celebrate his birthday or did not even meet after concerts are just so heartbreaking.I cannot believe how many times off camera they would have talked to him and he might have ignored them.Its just so sad how humans can get greedy.....
One thing I feel like ppl aren't noticing is that TOP said 'we weren't like this in the past'. He said they came together bc of their passion for music. That means in the beginning seungri was (probably) a good person just looking to preform on stage yet somewhere along the way he got involved with the wrong ppl and his morals got more and more corrupt.
I think is hyungs really tried to warn him and look out for him but he just got so greedy at some point and saw himself as untouchable. It's been so long but I'm honestly still in so much shock from all this. Like I'm just hoping I wake up from a horrible dream and seungri is the person we used to know. It's crazy how much I loved him and stood up for him when I felt he was being wronged by yg and now I just look back feel regret.
I still love all the other members from the bottom of my heart and I'm hoping bigbang (ot4) can find a way to continue their passions despite all this.
Most importantly I hope seungri has learned from all this and starts to really work on himself and his morals. He need need to understand how he hurt his fans, friends, and family. He needs to be punished accordingly and apologize for his wrongdoings and really fix the way he lives his life.
I personally could never wish death upon another person, I'm just hoping he retires, learns his lesson and does what needs to be done to right his wrong. (YG included)
Jaycey Allen I'm a month late to responding (because I didn't want to obsess over this), but this is so true. I don't think Seungri is inherently a bad person, but I do think he got extremely lost and unfortunately turned into the person he is today. At some point, as BIGBANG grew, the so-called "power" went to his head. He's a prime example of what the entertainment industry could do to a person if they don't watch out. It's like he was a good kid but he really did sign his soul away.
@@maei.6994 the only thing he can be charge with right now is gambling and even that is a maybe just keep that in mind
xxxpinkarea xxx Yeah and until then, I'd rather take a hiatus from being his fan. I'm allowed to do that until there is proof of him not being guilty as well. Everything is speculation, no?
He was found innocent just recently ?! Wasn’t he ?!
Tell that to the family of the girl who got drugged and raped.
"but once he comes down the stage, he never stays with us" he even held a birthday party without the hyungs.
I think there is some gap that was 'untouchable' between him and the other member, which he created himself. Its not because the hyung didnt care or just passing by on his business, but he covered it. Its really a pity that he just focusing on his greed but ignoring his most valuable person like his hyungs.
so yg let hanbin go for something he hasn't done - but wanted to do it - but kept seungri and supported him 🤠
yg and seungri can rot in jail
not really, Seungri has been kicked out of whole entertainment...
Land Slay yg didn’t kick seungri out till a while later, but he kicked hanbin out immediately
And yg is still supporting seungri like he got rid of hanbin and outed his mistake to try get the attention off seungri (that's what I understood at least)
And bruh aren't you a bandwagon.. if he was actually guilty shouldn't he be in jail rn with the other people? you disgust me
@@Isabelxo3 the case is in hiatus. get your facts straight
Seems like he had to surround himself with shallow friends. It’s ok to party and stuff, but it means a whole lot more with people who care about you.
Well if that was all he did, it wouldn’t be so bad. But he went ahead and did all kind of shitty things with those so called friends.
This is so inconsequential but something that always stuck out to me was their relationship with kids. Specifically, Lee Haru, the daughter of Tablo from Epik High. Haru loved spending time with and seeing every single member of big bang but Seungri. I don't think I've ever seen a clip of her with him, even in a dressing room with him in the background. I always found it a bit strange, especially since I saw her seek out everyone else at least once. I've learned that how a kid feels about a person instinctively says a lot about them.
Yeah kids have a sixth sense or something like dogs too
@Holly Cow yeah, that’s one of the reasons I want a dog. So when I train my dog (I want to get a Doberman) how to distinguish between people, I can tell if something’s up.
Yea I got a sense to jump out a car my sister boyfriend car because he was about to sexual assault me and abuse me my sister wasn't there
@@yxon_koxk8507 Oh my God I really hope you're okay!
@@yxon_koxk8507 ok first! I pray you are safe and ok, second! That was the smartest thing I ever heard! Good job! And please, please stay safe ok? 💖
I feel like I've always kind of lowkey picked up on subtle things I guess, 'cause to be honest, I never really liked Seungri. I love all the members equally, always have, but not Seungri, I never took a liking to him and never knew why. Let's just say I wasn't really surprised or shocked when all the news and stuff came out/ started up. He's always kind of rubbed me the wrong way and I just gotta say, I've always felt uncomfortable with him around girls/women.
Yassss. Agreed. Every program I saw him on he just seemed so..unsettling. I'm glad the glass has been shattered and he has been exposed. I just hope that the many fans who still follow and support him realize how dangerous his intentions were/are. Please, do not succumb to these circumstances, because it happens more than we would like to think in every society.
Same!
I was the same way. I told my friend this, and she helped clarified things for me. The other 4 always seem more genuine. Ex. Daesung may be the "ugly" one in the group, but his humor and vocals are what makes him Daesung. Seungri was always the sales person who tries hard to sell you somerhing. He didnt have any good qualities. He's just average...and his personality was meh. He tries to overcompensate himself by being on all these shows and making friends with everybody he meets as a way to prove that he's just as popular as the other members.
Me too
This reminded me of the strong heart YG special, where he talked about setting Dara up with multiple men and CL overheard them talking on the phone and hung up because she knew Seungri wasn't up to good.
I can tell that SEUNGRI sees GD as his competitor in music and not just his friends/member :(
I read somewhere that gd kinda lost his passion for music when seungri got upset when his solo stuff didnt do as well as gds solo stuff back in 2011 or something
I think after awhile seungri realised he was never gonna be as successful. He repeated during the made era, “ I gave up singing” “i gave up dancing” which is probably why he went to find other ways to make money
GD is on a whole another level than this piece of shit.
@@tupak169 true that shit man
he’ll never be as great as GD
It's like they were smelling his downfall. Sad, such a gifted singer.
Lol he was never a gifted singer, they all admitted before that Seungri just being added to the group for the visual which i found not even up to the par lol... his voice always sounded the most auto-tuned one..
@@muhammadhafiz8226 you got it wrong. He was chosen as the last member of BIGBANG because of his talent in dancing and making choreography. But he was outshined by Taeyang when it comes to dancing and BIGBANG didn't focus on dancing because T.O.P is really bad at it and would ruin the group's choreography. In the end, Seungri's talent was outshined by the other members and he realized that, that's why he tried really hard in other aspects like entrepreneurship.
@@sekantungkentang thanks for that info
@@muhammadhafiz8226 have you heard Seungri sing? Bruh hes voice is so soothing, are you deaf or listening to your on voice while listening to Seungri
@@marklaurence1680 nahhh you tried hahaha he sucks at singing i heard it many times when he sing along his hyungs. Glad he wasn't part of the group already hahaha. Boo