The Best Browser Synchronization
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- In this video I compare browser synchronization between Firefox, Google Chrome, and Brave browser.
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Real men use wget to browse websites
no real men make a 3000 line script to wget a website and all of its links (and so on)
Me on internet explorer: yes
I actually sometimes use of Browsh to surf the web when my internet is being stupid. I connect to a shell account over ssh and surf the web there.
I have a custom copy of frogfind that lets me use lynx with the modern web
(I can even watch youtube 😉)
@@NebulaHatesWatchdog I know lynx (used it a few times to view docs with no guis) but what is frogfind?
It's not even political people who get banned by Google. The person who made Terraria got banned at one point. Nobody knows why, but it locked him out of everything he had on Google Drive and it took the story blowing up on social media and him cancelling the Stadia port of Terraria to get any sort of resolution.
Yeah that was a bruh moment
Ah Google Stadia
Another thing Google cancelled randomly cause they felt like it
@@JmKrokY I really liked it 🤧
@@JmKrokY I enjoy Stadia and I think they should have given it a longer shot (and certainly more warning before shutting it down). But I wouldn’t say the decision was random. As much as I liked it, Stadia was never really a huge success and the writing was on the wall almost from the beginning, sadly.
@@JmKrokY "Google cancelled randomly" no they did so b/c no one was on it lol and they did that to themselves lol that makes it the best thing the fact it would still be around if it did not make ppl get a game they have just to pay it online.... almost like it was a bad idea ppl warned them about.
I switched to Firefox a year or so ago- well before I got wise to online privacy- because of the ui design and features available to the user. After switching to Linux and going down the rabbit hole, Firefox has toughed it out as a great browser that's heavily customisable far past the basic themes of others, and easy to harden for improved privacy/security. It's features in synchronisation and and css theme support are still king to me, and I plan on using FF for as long as it remains this way. When it's not supported idk I'll just use wget or something
@yes shut up
Why just use one browser? I use chromium just for google/youtube and firefox for everything else. It helps reduce tracking.
firefox is the fucking one and they own tor
I switched to firefox 2 years ago as a gimmick, change for the sake of change. And I've never used anything other than firefox, though recently I switched to waterfox since over time firefox started implementing their own spyware
Been using firefox for over 15 years. Loved it back then and still love it today. I wont switch to anything else I just hate everything. It works and I know how it works. People make fun of me for it but I don't care.
just switched to firefox and i have to say. i majorily prefer it. the ui feels more simple and usable then googles. also services like password manager and sync work way better.
@Ibrahim Anser I don’t know a modern browser running all the bells and whistles that doesn’t have a high memory usage.
This is the biggest cope I've ever read in my life
@Ibrahim Anser that’s just how browsers work. Ram is quite literally the fastest memory in the computer. If you need information readily available that is cached, you’re gonna need tons of fast temporary storage.
The toolbar sucks though. There's no pop-up extension list. Compact view is no longer "supported". And the tab search is weird. Still prefer Firefox but mainstream adoption will never happen if the ux isn't improved.
Don't get me started on the 'hamburger menu bookmarks button only shows recently used bookmarks with no way to change the default behavior. You have to edit the top bar and add separate bookmarks button to it' issue
Anything is gonna be better than using Google products
i hate to say it but it's the best in terms of convience because every password you save across almost every android apps is saved and synched instantly
and I'm not even a jeet shill
@@avg_user-ty2eg that convince makes it less secure, they just need to get into your google account to get all your log ins.
@@astroid99 True, but if you use a non-shit 2FA method like a yubikey or something, it could be pretty secure. Assuming Google itself doesn't get mega pwned
says the person using a google account to comment on a website owned by google
@@epicn You're doing the same.
I wrote a shell script that every time I turned my PC on it would take the *Bookmarks* file from the Brave local cache, encrypt it and copy it to a cloud drive, that way at most i'd only lose 1/2 days at most. Its cool but because its the raw JSON you can't just import it into another browser you have to go back to the directory and manually copy it in. I could see a scenario using rsync you could sync this across devices, but personally i use my laptop and PC so differently having them synced just wasn't a huge issue
Firefox is super handy, to send tabs to another device. I nearly use this feature daily.
jsyk, chrome supports that
@@sorairosetsuna0989 yes but chrome is awful
Edge does that too
@@kid_icarus1721 same as the comment above you
Chrome and Edge support Send Tab to Other Devices, but i prefer Firefox.
I switched to Firefox from Chrome years ago because of the ability to use addons on the mobile version. Firefox syncing features as well as having more privacy settings are nice features too that have kept me a loyal Firefox user.
Wow brave sync actually works now, tested it a couple years ago and it was not functional, nice to see it improve.
Even tho i recently switched to firefox i really liked the way brave handled syncing. Not having to creating an account is awesome, I wish other browsers adopted that method
I have been sharing your vids with my elder brother who has the no need privacy mentality to switch from chrome to Firefox; was really difficult to edge him over but with great effort from chrome ,it pushes my brother to firefox.
Fantastic. Thank you for the first browser video ive seen that makes 100% sense. Subscribed!! ❤
Please don't mind me using your videos as sleeping aid. Your sound is quite calming.
Glad to see you shout out sir sudo as usual
Wow dude, I remember when you were like 2k subs. Good video, I've been interested to know about the issues that you covered with FF but didn't bother with it yet.
On Android, I used to use FF, but its really lame that it didn't support much extensions, like FireMonkey etc. And also DarkReader didn't work at all or well either.
Whereas Kiwi Browser on Android, does extensions just fine, and it's dark mode is fast and excellent.
Another thing is I find FF a bit slower than Chromium, which I don't mind on Desktop, but on mobile I noticed the slowness.
Don't take my word for any of these statements, I didn't measure performance with benchmarks and haven't tried FF on Android for a few months.
Firefox sync has been a life saver when ive had problems with windows and had to reinstall it. it brought back all my passwords, bookmarks and add-ons with ease.
“overall i rate firefox sync the highest”
firefox users stay winning
Until they find out/realize that Firefox has gone woke since a few years, both expressing support for censorship multiple times and doing some of the censoring themselves; and so won't be long until they become Chrome 2.0 proper, lmao.
@@StimkySkunko that's Mozilla
@@tseriesbad6746 Mozilla? As in Mozilla Firefox?
@@highlander2319 Mozilla is now focused more on activism than development (especially after the wave of layoffs in 2020).
@@StimkySkunko and is funded by Google, and uses some Google features.
You should make a podcast! Your voice is so calming and I would 100% listen to it.
he does have one, but rarely post new episodes
I use the send tab to device feature daily. Being able to send tabs from my work laptop to my desktop has done wonders for my productivity.
I respect that you acknowledge google being safe from a security standpoint. There are so many creators that blatantly label google/chrome unsafe.
Thank you for showing them the way to the light :-)
Nice shout out to JP! I was not expecting that when I came to this video! :)
One further detail is that the encryption and authentication keys are not the same and are derived from your password. The encryption key is never sent to their servers so in theory they can't view your synced data (assuming you trust they never transmit the plaintext password to their servers when logging in)
Chrome allows you to use client-side encryption with your own keys using chromesync. Not sure why you didn't mention that, but users have the capability to keep their sync data private.
By default this option isn't used, but every user has the capability to enable it.
Completely overdosed on chan memes, you love to see it
I use LibreWolf and sometimes Ungoogled Chromium if the site only supports chromium based browsers and instead of them both removing their respecting sync features entirely, why not keep that feature in and allow you to use your own sync server?
How about we make a client just to list the logins, and then copy/paste passwords, we can use kdeconnect(gconnect on Gnome) to paste the password to a mobile device if needed.
From what I saw Firefox sync 2.0 is much harder to setup than 1.0. You can do many things without Firefox sync better or the same. Firefox sync also support SSO I think.
OMFG. Thank you! you just reminded me to install 2 factor on my Firefox Sync!
@undefined Sumi Best Girl kanojo okarishimasu.
Nexus 5X.. that brought back some memories lol, the camera was pretty great.
I've been considering moving some things to self hosted equivalents, but I'm still skeptical as to the reliability of doing so. What would you say is the best way to self host a service like this? A throwaway pc from last century? A Raspberry Pi? Rent a dedicated server like GCP or OCI? And when I say reliability, I not only mean uptime, but also how low the chances are of losing (access to) the data.
I'm going to turn my old Dell Precision into a NAS/server thingey for me to play around with for various learning projects that I can access remotely. An old Precision is great for this. They're reliable, durable, have two internal storage drives, ethernet port, and two sodimm slots. All laptops have a built in keyboard, screen, mouse, battery backup and are probably more power efficient than using a desktop.
Try using stuff you probably already have, or can get for cheap. If you have a laptop you don't use any more, mission accomplished. If you don't, look for a refurb business class that fits your need. Check BlackMarket, ebay, e-waste facilities, etc. Don't neglect to check colleges. For some insane reason, I've seen Chinese students chuck their laptops in the dumpster before leaving the country. Set up a way to backup the data automatically in case something happens to the laptop. This can be as simple as a USB to SATA cable and salvaged drives, or something nicer. Laptops are also space efficient and relatively quiet.
Old laptop that fits your needs: $0 to 200+
USB to SATA and salvaged HDDs: $10+
Sabrent HDD dock and new Western Digital HDDs: $80 or more, depending on your needs
Misc cost for minor repairs, tools, cables, etc: Unknown, adding $10 to make final cost an even $300.
Total Price: Somewhere between basically free and around $300. This is a tech project, set a strict budget or you'll go over it.
If you want to have off site back ups, double the price and bribe a friend to let you stick a clone of your system in their closet.
Good stuff!
Could you make a video talking about Firefox privacy extensions? Saw a few people saying some are not necessary anymore with the newest version of Firefox, while other say it's still a good idea to have them. Currently trying to switch to it.
Google doesn’t always force you to use 2FA. I think it does only when you create N number of accounts from a single IP or something like that
Changes mine to Firefox recently. Thanks to you.
I love your pfp. I cried like a bitch when Venom had to take out the infected recruits in the containment platform
@@iscesp04 We will make Diamonds from their ashes. Diamond Dogs forever.
Firefox is just handy and also less issues unless it’s tweaked by the distro. Opera is also nice for watching UA-cam you can pop out the PIP and it’s nice as well.
I like chrome but would love a lightweight version
I like Firefox for the browser containers add on. It's nice to keep certain activities or multiple accounts for same site separate.
lmao I got a chrome ad for this video
I just switched to Firefox recently and I can't get the push tab to phone to work. Every time I do it, the phone just doesn't react. Doesn't make a difference if I have Firefox open or not. Meanwhile I can't find any way to go the other way (phone to computer). Am I missing something? My phone is a Google Pixel and my laptop is a MacBook Pro. Both signed in with the same Firefox account.
9:25 if you use linux, then to add that argument everytime you start you could edit the .desktop file of brave and then everytime you open it graphically it will start brave with that argument automatically. the .desktop file will most probably be in the /etc directory.
Edit: Thanks to the replies: It is in ~/.local/share/applications. Find the brave.desktop file in that folder and add the argument in the command.
actually it's in the /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications not /etc and also you can do the same thing on Windows with .lnk files
desktop files are typically in either /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications
The others were right about the .desktop file being in /usr/share/applications, but just something to add: that file shouldn't be edited. Files in /usr are meant to be managed only by the package manager and not manually. /usr/local/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications are the equivalent user-managed directories though, with the former being systemwide and the latter being user-specific (and both override /usr). So, copy the .desktop file to either of those directories and then edit the copy.
Windows .lnk files allow adding Arguments as well.
I think Bitwarden selfhosted is superior for passwords, but great video
Would self-hosting firefox servers (both the sync server and email server) mean you have to make sure they are running on the original device when you want to sync with another device?
Cool that you can run your own account service! Only makes sense
Thank you!
Hey, I just found your channel and thought this was a good video. After watching, I was curious if you are familiar with the Divi Project? They are big on self-custodial crypto solutions, and I thought that might mesh with your ethos. Anyway, thanks for the quality vid. Cheers!
6:35 great now we can see Mental Outlaw's anime taste
The Vivaldi Sync is very good.
how is the performance on firefox vs chrome?
I was an OG user back in the day but switched to chrome since it was much faster when chrome first came out
I really miss having gmail in the top right in chrome but firefox is doing me a lot better
Hey, what software do you recommended for local file encryption?
pretty cool
I hate technology
Yeah. The more you know the more you hate it.
that's your fault
Could you go in to how good pCloud is and their encrypted files cloud storage is?
Try floccus bookmark sync extension, it can sync via nextcloud/drive and across multiple browser. I use it with kiwi browser on Android to sync my bookmarks to Orion browser on ios, and firefox browser on linux.
currently trying out firefox, but the account switchers are bad.
can't even figure out which one I am supposed to use :/
You forgot about Opera. Best browser synchronization is with Safari on Mac/iOS. But if you need it in an OS independent environment. Opera really rocks.
I sync all my important browser data in an external device; it is private, secure, and impervious to hackers. It's called a notebook XD
Pen and paper chad. 💪
True but it is actually vulnerable to the greatest of all hackers...regular burglars physically breaking in
I changed a day ago and its the best thing i've ever done
I switched to Firefox and Bitwarden from Chrome and can't be happier 🙌
but I know the bias against Chrome will lead it to ranking third even though feature wise it will have the best sync out of all three.
Based
Aegis is the best 2FA app. Love how it backs up to my Nextcloud server
Firefox Sync is e2e encrypted as well
The "Gamer Word"🤣
Google 2fa isn't mandatory for most cases. Sometimes they will force the use of a phone number or recovery email, but they mostly just leave the phone number as optional because they know the normies won't notice that it says (optional).
Is it possible to catch the Firefox sync login token using ARP poisoning by having your own sync server running to foul the target browser on another computer to think it's his own sync server/Mozilla's sync server ? I don't need this to apply it, I am just worried about my own security.
ARP poisoning only works inside the local network, if your computer sees that the remote IP is in another network it immediately sends the connection through the appropriate gateway (usually your router). And if an attacker gains access to your home net you have more important issues.
@@laurinneff4304 I am saying the bad actor is already in the network. But it would be easier for them to attack you if they can run a local fake full server, rather not having a full server and emulating the calls by hand?
Is the global Mozilla server protected from a this sort of an attack and faking the CA around the local network?
Either case, I will not move away from Firefox :). First steps, I turned off the wifi in my localnetwork and it's cable only, DATA for my devices or/and hotspots for other devices.
Second step, only whitelisted devices shall get dhcp IP address lease, others will be isolated in another network where clients won't see each other.
Third step: firewalls on each computer, and ssh certificates for internal LAN transfers :D.
What do you think of managing your TOTP with bitwarden instead of aegisauthenticator?
Separate apps > having it in your password manager > not using it at all
It's about how many layers someone would have to breach to get to your account. If the TOTP is in a separate app, the 1337 h4x0r man would have to get access to both your password manager and the authenticator to have access to something like your email. If it's in the password manager, they obviously just need access to that. However, if they don't have access to the password manager and your password itself becomes compromised for whatever reason, then the TOTP will still be there to help.
There's also the physical keys like yubikey which might be more secure than using an authenticator app, but those cost money and can be lost.
Firefox on mobile is one of the few Browsers on mobile that supports extensions.
Can we get a vid of you talking about passkeys?
okay but does Firefox have an open-source extension that makes its tab sync feature into a fully functional entirely free Cloud storage file system? because chrome has chrome FS which is the funniest thing ever.
itd be cool if you made a video about how to move away from the google ecosystem (gmail, etc) to something more secure.
Bro, which Ubuntu you using? 22.04? 22.10 Beta Builds?
I believe he is running Arch Linux (rolling release) as seen in his Brave browser settings.
from what site do I make an email more secure than google's one
I like Firefox containers and we can sync those too
BASED
2fa on Google accounts isn't a requirement, but your account gets pretty severely handicapped in many ways if it's not on
I wanted to watch the Sir Sudo video for self-hosted Firefox Sync but can't find the video. The channel is gone.
Same. I would love those videos.
Can you make a video about compiling openage and convert game assets, openage is the open source age empiers 2 engine.
hey kenny i hate using iphone what should i switch to?
Could you do a video on how secure opera gx browser is please
Well, Firefox is an open source application that is nothing to be ashamed of. I'm mean I love open-source apps but some of they just not good as their absolutely proprietary analogs. But apps like Blender, Firefox, 7Zip, VSCode, Brave etc. just AMAZING because they just work out of the box and you still can customize them how you want and like. Unlike that apps which horrible out of the box and you need configure them to make them just usable. Customization and configuration is great but not when you must do it to fix broken and unusable app. But there is exists some apps which not work out of the box but after customization they work good as their analogs or even better so that worth it. I'm love FOSS
Like some of us have the first account we opened has all our history then the one we used for school then the one we use for work
why did I always think that Sir Sudo is Mental Outlaw's second channel lol..
Mental outlaw what are your thoughts on brave.
You should check out his videos on it :-)
Yes but which one will link up your web activity to the NSA and other three letter agencies the fastest? 🤔
Chrome for sure
There's also been the guy wrongfully accused of pedophilia (sending photos of his child to a doctor for a diagnosis) who got his account banned.
To view a saved password in Brave you have to enter your OS user account password. But to view the sync-chain master password, just click a button!
I have multiple Brave profiles synced on my desktop; unfortunately only 1 can be synced to the mobile app. I've not tried self-hosting but I doubt that's easy to manage on the mobile app either - having the sync URL as a setting rather than a parameter would make more sense.
10000 iq password security
best browser for windows? cuz firefox got fucked up for some reason with some vc runtime error
You can't import passwords from csv in Firefox as far as I'm concerned. Something I am missing.
Is it possible u could check out debloated windows iso's?
@Heavy Is D E L I C I O U S i mean, I'm more thinking of how to make a custom one yourself type. And how to do it properly
I like the libraries browser
The web version of Godot works on brave but not on Firefox cant switch. (it also feels slower.)
another based video
Chads who just don't sync their browser stuff
Firefox should have an option like Brave for sync though, as not everyone can selfhost or likes to share stuff with Mozilla.
My understanding is that you would only share your email address, all the rest is encrypted using the password. This is fair enough to get login notifications and a sort of backup in my opinion. If you lose your crypto private key, you are fucked. On the other hand, 2FA codes are easy to backup to another device (I keep an old phone offline for that). So in this case I prefer FF approach.
If i was to self host my firefox account n data, i might just upload my profile straight from my user folder (on windows) into my backup server
But would you still recommend Librewolf over Firefox?
They're pretty much the same in the level of privacy they can achieve, but with FireFox you have to harden it yourself. I guess LibreWolf is better for those who want a private browser right out of the box
good video. but why didn't you include Ms Edge?
Yeah that's always the issue of customer custody with all of these broad ecosystems. Apple obviously has the same issue (or feature depending on who you ask). Even if I use quite a lot of Google products, I don't go to the point of having software of them on my PC. Firefox always has been a great product, switched to it 5 years ago and not ever going back.
Anyway I recently got to setup my own email server for some business. I should consider using that as my main email address. And of course self-hosting the sync server because this is way too critical in my life.
Firefox gang! I've used firefox for as long as I have a computer. (so about 4 years now)
I use firefox as my main browser, I use brave whenever I want to use my other google account when I want to manage my 7 subscribers channel. I use microsoft edge(btw i'm linux) in some websites, like udemy, it seems that their drm crap doesnt work on firefox or maybe one of my addons is is causing some issue. I like using different browsers while keeping firefox as my main one. I have a gpg encrypted file with my ssh key and my firefox passwords, i sent this file to my mother. I probably have to do that with my OTP stuff.
Mozilla's sync broke three times in the span of two years. Stopped using sync altogether, only export-import bookmarks manually now. 😒 Never syncing anything Google or Crummium.