I got a tip for beginners, because I too am a beginner and just recently ran into this (which I think might be rather common): if using a rimlock and going to set the bead, the tire might look mis-aligned radially. What I found was that, although the bead set, it set on the top of my rimlock rather than on the inside of the biting edges (like they’re supposed to). So, the fix; let the air mostly out, push the rimlock deeper into the tire while simultaneously finagling the lips of the tire around the rimlock. It helps to use lots of lube, and good lighting so maybe you can see in there. Then set the bead again and bounce the tire as he showed in the video, and hopefully that would work for anyone who may have this issue and reads this…at least that’s what solved my issue. Good luck!
Bro, you rock! I watched other videos and tried before dinner. Watched your video and tried another attempt after. Only two spoons. Used a wrench for a bead buddy and it worked a trick! Tire came right off
Great Video!!! I'm psychologically prepared to put my new 16 inch Rear Cheater on my E Ride SS Pro E Moto now after getting my hands all chewed up with the front tire the other day!!! Going to buy the stand, Bead Buddy and Lube!!! : ) Thank you for the Support! lol!
Just spooned some motoz tractionator enduro I/Ts on my 500 after running mt-21s, d606s, tusk d-sports and tkc80s. Couldn’t believe the difference! I now understand how people do wheelies on dirt in Colorado! Fantastic tire so far!
I just put a new rear tire on my '75 DT250 yesterday after watching this. It has 2 rim locks and they gave me a few problems but with the lube and baby powder I had it on in about 30 minutes. I consider that pretty good since I haven't done a bike tire with rim locks in 40 years.
You said the key word as far as tire changes go, drop center. If you understand how the drop center works you have a much easier time with tire changes. There's no muscling the tire on, but working with the tire, not against it. Thanks for the video.
Ok…I rewatched this and he’s talking about drop center at 6:30. It seems that the idea behind drop center is getting the bead on the opposite side of the tire you’re working on to drop into the center of the rim where it’s closer to the hub. Please adjust this and help clarify because drop center seems to be a BFD and I want to understand this better. My last tire change was a mofo and I want to avoid that pain in the future. Great video and wonderful tips - thanks!
Love the 606s. Ran em multiple times on my 250L and now on my 300L. However they're hell to try and change. I never considered getting em warm. I had to pay a shop to do it.
Doing them in a shop or at home clean the thing 1st. Helps in so many ways. Do not be a hacker especially when teaching. Never assume the rim strip is ok from the factory. I changed the stupid AT81 front tire and the blue rim spoke strip had never been on top of 12 spokes. So the spokes were rubbing on the tube and dirt was getting in a tad. This was at 7 hours on a new 2022 KTM 300 XC TPI.
I've used 216 Shinko, I've got good life 216 GT, and like the 216 shinko gummy !!!!!!!!!!!!! but haven't tried any of the 216's on slab MotoZ tranctionator's I mix and match them, if up to 50/50 slab/dirt, the H/T wears great for me, I break heavy and wear fronts fast, I've changed at 2kmiles before, but the h/t doesn't hook up like the S/T up front(less miles on slab). I'm usually rocking a S/T front, and an I/T in the rear. For mud, M5b(I don't think DOT) ALWAYS!! In rocks, the ve33s and the Arena Hybrid gummy rock. Baby powder works well, I've also tried rubber grease and HD tubes, works great too. I use bead buddies to help guide the bead to the center too, and use 3 of them for mousse's. I'd bet in 20 years, if your bucket doesn't break, you'll still be using that Murphy's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Enjoy that Motoz tire!
The Ibex is a great tire for the gnar(if you are light on the throttle), but it sucks at everything else. I tried one and it was trashed in 10 hours on my KTM 350. I have been running the Motoz I/T and it's been great and wearing well. H/T = hard, I/T = intermediate, S/T = soft. Your S/T is going to wear out fast if you ride pavement or are hard on the throttle.
for fronts, the HT has the most amount of rubber in contact with the ground, lasts a long time, other extreme, the ST has wide spaced knobs, WoW do they DIG!
Excellent, thank you. On my last tire change I forgot to warm the tire up first, bit of a struggle🤣 Question: I am installing a new tusk D sport rear tire, glad you liked it, what was the lowest pressure you were able to use successfully? I am running one rim lock.
When I mount a tire I mount one side and then pop it off the other side so the rim goes down inside the tire. Then I install the tube by bouncing the tire on the ground. It gives me more room to get my big hands inside to start the valve stem and work the tube in. Then just pop both sides back on.
spoon one side of the tire on, put a tiny bit of air in a lubed tube and put it in the tire. put the valve stem in, using nut to hold valve stem. spoon on other side of tire, inflate to desired pressure. tighten rim locks. bam, done!
Many times I seem to get a bulge in the sidewall of a freshly mounted tire right at the valve stem. This makes for a lump as the tire goes around. Does anybody know how to prevent that and once it's there how to get rid of it? It seems to happen often on soft carcass tires such as shinko 241 and others. Thanks
I'm not saying that you're using it wrong, but Murphy's is water soluble. You can use water to thin it down and then apply it to your beads with a brush. It cleans up pretty easily with water too. Plus it cleans your hands really well when you wash it off.
When my 505 cheater is finally burned up which shouldn't take long I'm going to try a Kenda track master 2. The tusk adventure d has nice deep lugs in his durable but damn that's a hard tire
I keep my baby powder and a spray bottle with soapy water(lube) right beside my tire stand. To warm up the tire use an old hair blower inside the tire aiming radially and in no time the tire will be soft !!
Good.. but.. If you fighting it , you may not necessarily be doing something wrong , some tires are just damm difficult. It can be the construction, the brand, the compound or the particular size so to speak.. Keep on working 💪 👷♂️ 👌🏻
you didnt drop the tube further in when you were spooning that thing, lucky it didnt get pinched.. insert tube, inflate a bit, deflate and its further away from the danger area
I did two gocart tires without real spoons. Not fun. They make all the difference. I did keep the cheap adjustable pliers I taped into the spread eagle position as my third spoon.
I got a tip for beginners, because I too am a beginner and just recently ran into this (which I think might be rather common): if using a rimlock and going to set the bead, the tire might look mis-aligned radially. What I found was that, although the bead set, it set on the top of my rimlock rather than on the inside of the biting edges (like they’re supposed to). So, the fix; let the air mostly out, push the rimlock deeper into the tire while simultaneously finagling the lips of the tire around the rimlock. It helps to use lots of lube, and good lighting so maybe you can see in there. Then set the bead again and bounce the tire as he showed in the video, and hopefully that would work for anyone who may have this issue and reads this…at least that’s what solved my issue. Good luck!
Bro, you rock! I watched other videos and tried before dinner. Watched your video and tried another attempt after. Only two spoons. Used a wrench for a bead buddy and it worked a trick! Tire came right off
Two trips to Colorado on a fatty…and gummy rear. Loved it
Great Video!!! I'm psychologically prepared to put my new 16 inch Rear Cheater on my E Ride SS Pro E Moto now after getting my hands all chewed up with the front tire the other day!!! Going to buy the stand, Bead Buddy and Lube!!! : ) Thank you for the Support! lol!
Keep at it!! You will get the hang of it, slow and steady, technique matters.
Those tires look sick!
Just spooned some motoz tractionator enduro I/Ts on my 500 after running mt-21s, d606s, tusk d-sports and tkc80s. Couldn’t believe the difference! I now understand how people do wheelies on dirt in Colorado! Fantastic tire so far!
Good work on adding the video of nearly taking your time your mind your eye out 😂
That was actually hilarious
I just put a new rear tire on my '75 DT250 yesterday after watching this. It has 2 rim locks and they gave me a few problems but with the lube and baby powder I had it on in about 30 minutes. I consider that pretty good since I haven't done a bike tire with rim locks in 40 years.
You said the key word as far as tire changes go, drop center. If you understand how the drop center works you have a much easier time with tire changes. There's no muscling the tire on, but working with the tire, not against it. Thanks for the video.
Ok…I rewatched this and he’s talking about drop center at 6:30. It seems that the idea behind drop center is getting the bead on the opposite side of the tire you’re working on to drop into the center of the rim where it’s closer to the hub.
Please adjust this and help clarify because drop center seems to be a BFD and I want to understand this better. My last tire change was a mofo and I want to avoid that pain in the future.
Great video and wonderful tips - thanks!
kenda trakmaster k760 tires work great on my fe450s
FE450, is that a good bike? ( I wish I had a FE450, lol)
Thank you for the tips. Great vid...
My favorite dual sport rear tire is the Mitas E09! At least for the climate and conditions here in Scandinavia
Mitas is starting to make inroads in the USA, I haven't tried one yet, Trailbound is selling a 454, looks NICE,
Love the 606s. Ran em multiple times on my 250L and now on my 300L. However they're hell to try and change. I never considered getting em warm. I had to pay a shop to do it.
I used the cheap HF tire stand with bead breaker and tire shine spray to lube the D606's went on easy..
D606 doesn't SUCK
What about balancing the tire?
Great video thanks for making it ,just ordered a husky 701 so this will be a lot of help 🏍🏍🎉🎉👍
Tanner do you tighten the valve stem nut or leave it loose ?
Great question! I used to tighten them down but after ripping a couple stems I leave them loose to allow for play, would recommend!
The Dunlop, MX 33 and 34 like you said as long as you stay off the cement pavement they’re pretty decent tires in my opinion
Doing them in a shop or at home clean the thing 1st. Helps in so many ways. Do not be a hacker especially when teaching.
Never assume the rim strip is ok from the factory. I changed the stupid AT81 front tire and the blue rim spoke strip had never been on top of 12 spokes. So the spokes were rubbing on the tube and dirt was getting in a tad. This was at 7 hours on a new 2022 KTM 300 XC TPI.
In an emergency can you use the front tube in the rear tire for 10 or 20km. Front is 19 back is 17 dual sport akt 150 ttr
Made it look easy
Nice video. Would have liked to See more about the blue thingy and how It helps you but i check It out anyway :)
I've used 216 Shinko, I've got good life 216 GT, and like the 216 shinko gummy !!!!!!!!!!!!! but haven't tried any of the 216's on slab
MotoZ tranctionator's I mix and match them, if up to 50/50 slab/dirt, the H/T wears great for me, I break heavy and wear fronts fast, I've changed at 2kmiles before, but the h/t doesn't hook up like the S/T up front(less miles on slab). I'm usually rocking a S/T front, and an I/T in the rear. For mud, M5b(I don't think DOT) ALWAYS!!
In rocks, the ve33s and the Arena Hybrid gummy rock.
Baby powder works well, I've also tried rubber grease and HD tubes, works great too.
I use bead buddies to help guide the bead to the center too, and use 3 of them for mousse's.
I'd bet in 20 years, if your bucket doesn't break, you'll still be using that Murphy's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Enjoy that Motoz tire!
The Ibex is a great tire for the gnar(if you are light on the throttle), but it sucks at everything else. I tried one and it was trashed in 10 hours on my KTM 350. I have been running the Motoz I/T and it's been great and wearing well. H/T = hard, I/T = intermediate, S/T = soft. Your S/T is going to wear out fast if you ride pavement or are hard on the throttle.
for fronts, the HT has the most amount of rubber in contact with the ground, lasts a long time, other extreme, the ST has wide spaced knobs, WoW do they DIG!
Are you going to be balancing the wheels for better on-road riding?
I probably should! It’s pretty uncomfortable at speed.
Excellent, thank you. On my last tire change I forgot to warm the tire up first, bit of a struggle🤣
Question: I am installing a new tusk D sport rear tire, glad you liked it, what was the lowest pressure you were able to use successfully? I am running one rim lock.
Just mounted the EO7+ on the rear of the KLR. Looks like a tractor tire. Haven’t ridden it yet. We’ll see
When I mount a tire I mount one side and then pop it off the other side so the rim goes down inside the tire. Then I install the tube by bouncing the tire on the ground. It gives me more room to get my big hands inside to start the valve stem and work the tube in. Then just pop both sides back on.
a bathtub full of hot water or your shower with the drain plug covered running hot water works for me Holmes - great post ........
spoon one side of the tire on, put a tiny bit of air in a lubed tube and put it in the tire. put the valve stem in, using nut to hold valve stem. spoon on other side of tire, inflate to desired pressure. tighten rim locks. bam, done!
Many times I seem to get a bulge in the sidewall of a freshly mounted tire right at the valve stem. This makes for a lump as the tire goes around. Does anybody know how to prevent that and once it's there how to get rid of it? It seems to happen often on soft carcass tires such as shinko 241 and others. Thanks
I put Dunlop D606 Dual Sport Tires on my 2022 yz450fx they seem ok. I wonder if the Motoz could take the abuse of chain ripping torque..
The Motoz has way better grip than the 606 off road and it lasts a long time.
@@nvmcrider8475 Cool! Thanks! I'll pick some up when this 450 rips the 606's up...
@@nvmcrider8475 MX33 lasted a few months but was good and sticky..
NOTHING lasts on the back with YZ450fx's :) sweet bike
@@bradl45 Yeah it's quite violent lol! Thanks!
I'm not saying that you're using it wrong, but Murphy's is water soluble. You can use water to thin it down and then apply it to your beads with a brush. It cleans up pretty easily with water too. Plus it cleans your hands really well when you wash it off.
When my 505 cheater is finally burned up which shouldn't take long I'm going to try a Kenda track master 2. The tusk adventure d has nice deep lugs in his durable but damn that's a hard tire
I keep my baby powder and a spray bottle with soapy water(lube) right beside my tire stand. To warm up the tire use an old hair blower inside the tire aiming radially and in no time the tire will be soft !!
Good.. but..
If you fighting it , you may not necessarily be doing something wrong , some tires are just damm difficult.
It can be the construction, the brand, the compound or the particular size so to speak..
Keep on working 💪 👷♂️ 👌🏻
Shinko DOT fatty front
Kenda trackmaster 2 rear
M59 front IRC JX8 rear
That WON'T suck, I cheat with a spare wheel with a JX8, I use when I need help hanging with better riders!
kenda trackmaster still my go to tire. Dont care if it wears fast on pavement (800 road miles on them and still look brand new)
I haven't run one for a while, what did your last one cost?
I recommend actual tire changing tools. I was using butter knives to change my motard tires and one of the butter knife handles exploded in my hand.
just did mine no lube at all just windex maybe that why i hate changing tire every year 🤣
you didnt drop the tube further in when you were spooning that thing, lucky it didnt get pinched.. insert tube, inflate a bit, deflate and its further away from the danger area
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I did two gocart tires without real spoons. Not fun. They make all the difference. I did keep the cheap adjustable pliers I taped into the spread eagle position as my third spoon.
Let's go
Nice sandals 👡
So you give a warning to wear safety glasses and proceed to continue removing the tire without putting on glasses.
What a bafoon.
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Lol, I would have put another 1k miles on that rear tire 😂😂😂
Dsport
For yall who dont want to waste time he's brain start to workout a 6.00
Cut city
Moto ZEE.
good advise. mostly in line with what i consider the utlimate tire change tutorial vid: ua-cam.com/video/qw0B2gIwbBg/v-deo.html
He is a MAJOR pro like Jay Clark. Doug has a REALLY good mousse tire change as well, makes it look easy. Great link to share!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep a sharpie for black wheel boo boos
tip number 6 - burning tires is bad for your health and environment
burning tires is not cool and very illegal where I live
oh they dont. ill take all your tires gladly for free! i can still use those hhaha. too bad i live in asia
525 cheater all day
Lube that satchel up
Excellent video! Thanks!