This is exactly what I've been wanting to do to keep the sound crisp! Thanks so much for the nice easy explanation. Love your stuff! ( I was this close to buying a separate peddle just to mute the mic so thanks as well for saving me £60-100!!) Lol
ah that's awesome - stoked you found this out before needing to get extra gear haha. I tended to use a mic switcher which is another great option and means you can still keep you vocal in FOH whilst recording only guitar. Can be a handy way to go also.
Pure GOLD! Of course the multiples of the audience if you have 9,10,11+ loop overdubs - ahh the noise! 😬 This is a great example to have a mic mute. Love it. 👍🏻
Cheers JP! Unavoidable when looping vocals of course, but I've seen some artists just end up with feedback issues by leaving the mic open and building layers - especially in small venues which is just downright frustrating!
@@davidshanhun Not sure if you’ve been checking out the upcoming boss RC 600 flagship looper, but it looks like it could be very interesting as well. Figures now that I’m just really getting to know most of the ins and outs on the 300!
@@brucesmusicvideos haha yep been very much checking it out! Always quite a learning curve with new gear but excited to see what opens up with it. Until then - very happy with the RC300 still! 👌
Thank you very very much for this. I actually bypassed vocals ALTOGETHER to avoid exactly this issue. I run only my guitars to the looper (bass, acoustic, and electric via a mini mixer) to an onboard mixer on my pedalboard and was send vocals directly to that onboard mixer and out to the PA. This sacrificed my ability to loop any vocals but I felt it was a worthwhile sacrifice to avoid the house noise "din" being mixed in with my guitar loops. Now I can have the best of both world's!
Most welcome Geoff! You aren't the only one that's just bypassed vocals all round to avoid this haha! Hope you get some fun new ideas out of being able to add it back in from time to time!
Could be best to buy a switch that lets you feed the mic into the looper or bypass it so you can also have the option to loop a chord progression while singing and not have the vocals in the loop
Thank you!!! Omg, this is going to help so much! I've only been looping a year and don't know some of this techy stuff. Note to find out how to get a graphic equalizer in the pedal so it's not so tinny.
You are one of the reasons I got the rc 300 and I applied this method to my pedal thank you so much could you do a detailed set up of linking it to a pa and how to set the right volume and or mix for live looping and how it can be applied to where ever you go
@@davidshanhun yea I have managed to do a rough loop cover of kids aren't alright by offspring looping both guitar and vocals need to get more confident but practicing hard. Love your content have loads of ideas for more on boss rc 300 which I would love you to help with but for now that's my burning topic thank you 😊
@@Jkbunting awesome! Feel free to reach out anytime - appreciate the suggestions and nice to make a video when you already know it'll be useful to somebody 👌
@@davidshanhun another idea was how to hook up effects pedals to boss rc 300 and also I have a tc helicon harmony pedal how to run that through with XlR. How to get a stop start effectively to not bore the crowd but also make an impact All the effects and how they sound and if they are worth using. The rhythm section I sometimes activate it by holding down track 3 stop no idea why this is. Sorry if there is alot haha but you really are one of the best teachers on this I have watched most your other videos already and I have searched in great detail.
hey Sully - I have it saved on another preset on the RC300 in case for some reason something happens to my mic switcher. Mostly I'll use the switcher rather than this - which allows me to sing whilst recording guitar loops.
I have a question: can you request the loop to pass a signal without recording and muting it? For example, imaging I'm playing my guitar and singing but I just want to record my voice and let the guitar sound or viceversa, record the guitar while I'm singing but I don not want the voice to be recorded. Do you know any trick (perhaps using external pedals) for this? Thanks!!
hey Santiago - what you described is what I do live and I use this pedal for switching, although it does sometimes have a 'click' or 'pop' when switching. What I use - www.loopipedals.com.au/product/microphone-ab-output-switch-pedal/ What I'd recommend to avoid pops and clicks - amzn.to/3HochHM
Hi Clydene - you need to copy the assign settings to each channel you wish to use it on, but the other system setting (loop fx pdl is fx on/off + assign) is global (applies to all channels).
Hi David, love your channel. The LCD screen on my RC-300 has gone blank so I cant read any titles, input titles, or anything that requires use of the screen, editing etc..The red track numbers 1 - 99 are still visible, as are all other lights..do you know how I can fix this? Thank you
Thanks. Haven't come across this tbh - without looking into replacing the screen and getting into the unit I'm not sure how you'd go. The only other way to make changes would be to have someone else with a functioning unit work with you on button presses so you could copy and change settings etc. Once you had it set up how you wanted you would be good to go for certain patches etc.
@@davidshanhun To clarify..the screen goes in and out of blank state and its always at random times. Sometimes when I turn it on it'll be blank, then after 10 minutes it'll be visible..then after 8 minutes blank..etc no specific intervals..very annoying..guess I'll contact Boss dealer near me and see if they can fix it..Thanks for responding
Hey David, wondering if you have a suggestion for a mic set up suggestion for an RC30 loop pedal? At the moment I just feed the mic through my reverb and gain pedals to boost the signal and add reverb. Should I just get a dedicated reverb pedal for my mic so I can use the mic input at the back of the looper.
If you have something working for you - you really don't need to change it. The signal for both guitar and vocals ends up coming out the same output on the RC30, so if you've got reverb and your levels are good then you won't see much noticeable change by using the mic input. The main reason to change would be simply for the ease of setting the mic gain!
Hi Christine - yes it is possible. There's a few ways to do it - I changed the step button to be 'loop input cycle' on the VL3, that way I choose what the loop is recording, so if I'm only recording guitar parts, I set the loop input to 'guitar'. That means my mic is still working and I can chat to the audience or sing - but any of that general mic noise is not going into the loops. I talk about how to set it up in this video - it's #3. ua-cam.com/video/vuL4Oal_3SU/v-deo.html
Go through the video at the start and set the assign as per the video - the only reason it will mute your instrument as well is if you are sending both already mixed to that mic input. Sorry to hear you didn't get it sussed first time around, and let me know when you get it or if you have further issues!
Great vid. I find using headphones works brillaint with this pedal but if i want to use an amp instead then i barely turn the mic volume up as get bad feedback...do you have this too or know how to fix? Thanks.
hey brother! could be a couple of things but this is likely one of the most common misconceptions about the unit! Those three dials where it says 'input level' are not volume controls. To set the gain/level here - sing into your mic and turn the mic up until you see the red light flash, and then adjust it bit by bit down until the red 'peak' light no longer flashes. Once you've set it that is going to stay basically the same forever (unless you have a different singer who is louder or softer etc, or change microphones). You don't want to ever see that red light on when you're performing as it means the sound is clipping and adding distortion. For most people this means the mic input level will be set very low which is designed that way. Do the same to set your instrument and aux levels into the unit if you're using them. The adjustment for overall volume is only the master on the left (and the track levels). Secondly - when using your amp - make sure your mic is pointing away from the amp to reject as much sound as possible. As you create loops with the microphone it adds in more and more sound which in a small space also enhances the rooms natural resonant frequencies (what you're hearing as feedback). You'll get much less feedback naturally with the exact same setup in a bigger room, and by having more distance from your mic to the amp. Hope that helps and feel free to reply on how you're going. I realise this is a bit overkill for a youtube comment reply but hope it helps haha!
@@davidshanhun i thought i had it, but as soon as i saved it didnt do it......what i need to do is be able to mute the mic, but when th mic is on i want the delay on it.....is this possible? cheers edit: i get delay on guitar, but not the mic.....i just want then delay on the mic, not guitar, possible?
yes - just that they will always both turn on or off together. Only other way around it is to use an external pedal to mute the mic, or to turn fx on or off and remove the fx from the fx pedal etc.
Is it possible you already have your FX pedal assigned to Clear ALL? I added an External footswitch and assigned it to clear all instead of using the onboard pedal, maybe you could try re-assigning?
Awesome - thank you ! I've had my RC 300 for a couple of years and just haven't taken the time to figure all the options out. Great video.
Thanks Steve!
Duuuude I’ve been wanting to do this for so long, this is incredible! Thank you so much for being such a good teacher and a inspirational person ❤
This is exactly what I've been wanting to do to keep the sound crisp! Thanks so much for the nice easy explanation. Love your stuff! ( I was this close to buying a separate peddle just to mute the mic so thanks as well for saving me £60-100!!) Lol
ah that's awesome - stoked you found this out before needing to get extra gear haha. I tended to use a mic switcher which is another great option and means you can still keep you vocal in FOH whilst recording only guitar. Can be a handy way to go also.
Pure GOLD!
Of course the multiples of the audience if you have 9,10,11+ loop overdubs - ahh the noise! 😬
This is a great example to have a mic mute. Love it. 👍🏻
Cheers JP! Unavoidable when looping vocals of course, but I've seen some artists just end up with feedback issues by leaving the mic open and building layers - especially in small venues which is just downright frustrating!
Boom!!! Great!! I was just wondering how to do this yesterday!! Thank you!!
good timing haha!
Seriously an awesome tutorial. This has unlocked a mystery that his befuddled me for over three years. Keep it up love these tips.
Thanks so much Bruce! haha super glad it's been of use to you!
@@davidshanhun Not sure if you’ve been checking out the upcoming boss RC 600 flagship looper, but it looks like it could be very interesting as well. Figures now that I’m just really getting to know most of the ins and outs on the 300!
@@brucesmusicvideos haha yep been very much checking it out! Always quite a learning curve with new gear but excited to see what opens up with it. Until then - very happy with the RC300 still! 👌
Thank you very very much for this. I actually bypassed vocals ALTOGETHER to avoid exactly this issue. I run only my guitars to the looper (bass, acoustic, and electric via a mini mixer) to an onboard mixer on my pedalboard and was send vocals directly to that onboard mixer and out to the PA. This sacrificed my ability to loop any vocals but I felt it was a worthwhile sacrifice to avoid the house noise "din" being mixed in with my guitar loops. Now I can have the best of both world's!
Most welcome Geoff! You aren't the only one that's just bypassed vocals all round to avoid this haha! Hope you get some fun new ideas out of being able to add it back in from time to time!
Could be best to buy a switch that lets you feed the mic into the looper or bypass it so you can also have the option to loop a chord progression while singing and not have the vocals in the loop
@@MattKairl nah, this solution is exactly what I wanted. I want to only intentionally loop vocals and not run the risk of ever accidentally doing so
@@geoffkmusic either way I guess
Thanks so much David - great video!!
Mandy!! helllooooo! ❤️ (and thanks!)
Thank you!!! Omg, this is going to help so much! I've only been looping a year and don't know some of this techy stuff.
Note to find out how to get a graphic equalizer in the pedal so it's not so tinny.
Hi David,thank you very much taking the time to explain how to mute the mike.You are a legend bro😊👍✌,cheers Nick
You are one of the reasons I got the rc 300 and I applied this method to my pedal thank you so much could you do a detailed set up of linking it to a pa and how to set the right volume and or mix for live looping and how it can be applied to where ever you go
heya! Great idea for a video and happy to do this. Hope you're having fun with the 300!
@@davidshanhun yea I have managed to do a rough loop cover of kids aren't alright by offspring looping both guitar and vocals need to get more confident but practicing hard. Love your content have loads of ideas for more on boss rc 300 which I would love you to help with but for now that's my burning topic thank you 😊
@@Jkbunting awesome! Feel free to reach out anytime - appreciate the suggestions and nice to make a video when you already know it'll be useful to somebody 👌
@@davidshanhun another idea was how to hook up effects pedals to boss rc 300 and also I have a tc helicon harmony pedal how to run that through with XlR.
How to get a stop start effectively to not bore the crowd but also make an impact
All the effects and how they sound and if they are worth using.
The rhythm section I sometimes activate it by holding down track 3 stop no idea why this is.
Sorry if there is alot haha but you really are one of the best teachers on this I have watched most your other videos already and I have searched in great detail.
Very cool! Are you using this in addition to the mic switching pedal you have?
hey Sully - I have it saved on another preset on the RC300 in case for some reason something happens to my mic switcher. Mostly I'll use the switcher rather than this - which allows me to sing whilst recording guitar loops.
I have a question: can you request the loop to pass a signal without recording and muting it? For example, imaging I'm playing my guitar and singing but I just want to record my voice and let the guitar sound or viceversa, record the guitar while I'm singing but I don not want the voice to be recorded. Do you know any trick (perhaps using external pedals) for this?
Thanks!!
hey Santiago - what you described is what I do live and I use this pedal for switching, although it does sometimes have a 'click' or 'pop' when switching. What I use - www.loopipedals.com.au/product/microphone-ab-output-switch-pedal/ What I'd recommend to avoid pops and clicks - amzn.to/3HochHM
Thank you very much
😊
does this have to be done for every channel? ie, 1-99? that you want to use it on? or is it set it and forget it type of thing?
Hi Clydene - you need to copy the assign settings to each channel you wish to use it on, but the other system setting (loop fx pdl is fx on/off + assign) is global (applies to all channels).
Hi David, love your channel. The LCD screen on my RC-300 has gone blank so I cant read any titles, input titles, or anything that requires use of the screen, editing etc..The red track numbers 1 - 99 are still visible, as are all other lights..do you know how I can fix this? Thank you
Thanks. Haven't come across this tbh - without looking into replacing the screen and getting into the unit I'm not sure how you'd go. The only other way to make changes would be to have someone else with a functioning unit work with you on button presses so you could copy and change settings etc. Once you had it set up how you wanted you would be good to go for certain patches etc.
@@davidshanhun To clarify..the screen goes in and out of blank state and its always at random times. Sometimes when I turn it on it'll be blank, then after 10 minutes it'll be visible..then after 8 minutes blank..etc no specific intervals..very annoying..guess I'll contact Boss dealer near me and see if they can fix it..Thanks for responding
Hey David, wondering if you have a suggestion for a mic set up suggestion for an RC30 loop pedal? At the moment I just feed the mic through my reverb and gain pedals to boost the signal and add reverb. Should I just get a dedicated reverb pedal for my mic so I can use the mic input at the back of the looper.
If you have something working for you - you really don't need to change it. The signal for both guitar and vocals ends up coming out the same output on the RC30, so if you've got reverb and your levels are good then you won't see much noticeable change by using the mic input. The main reason to change would be simply for the ease of setting the mic gain!
otherwise you could put the reverb pedal after the looper which could be another solution. 😊
@@davidshanhun Thankyou so much! Reverb after the loop pedal is a great idea. This would save having to unplug guitar and mic cables.
Thank you David! But is it possible with voicelive3 Extreme ?
Hi Christine - yes it is possible. There's a few ways to do it - I changed the step button to be 'loop input cycle' on the VL3, that way I choose what the loop is recording, so if I'm only recording guitar parts, I set the loop input to 'guitar'. That means my mic is still working and I can chat to the audience or sing - but any of that general mic noise is not going into the loops. I talk about how to set it up in this video - it's #3. ua-cam.com/video/vuL4Oal_3SU/v-deo.html
@@davidshanhun thanks David !
Muchísimas gracias por la información!!
most welcome!
Thank you very much!!!!
I managed to program a dual foot switch to do this, but I can’t get it to not also mute my instrument as well. Any tips there?
Go through the video at the start and set the assign as per the video - the only reason it will mute your instrument as well is if you are sending both already mixed to that mic input. Sorry to hear you didn't get it sussed first time around, and let me know when you get it or if you have further issues!
Turned out it was user error. Got it working! Thank you!
Great vid. I find using headphones works brillaint with this pedal but if i want to use an amp instead then i barely turn the mic volume up as get bad feedback...do you have this too or know how to fix? Thanks.
hey brother! could be a couple of things but this is likely one of the most common misconceptions about the unit!
Those three dials where it says 'input level' are not volume controls. To set the gain/level here - sing into your mic and turn the mic up until you see the red light flash, and then adjust it bit by bit down until the red 'peak' light no longer flashes. Once you've set it that is going to stay basically the same forever (unless you have a different singer who is louder or softer etc, or change microphones). You don't want to ever see that red light on when you're performing as it means the sound is clipping and adding distortion. For most people this means the mic input level will be set very low which is designed that way. Do the same to set your instrument and aux levels into the unit if you're using them. The adjustment for overall volume is only the master on the left (and the track levels).
Secondly - when using your amp - make sure your mic is pointing away from the amp to reject as much sound as possible. As you create loops with the microphone it adds in more and more sound which in a small space also enhances the rooms natural resonant frequencies (what you're hearing as feedback). You'll get much less feedback naturally with the exact same setup in a bigger room, and by having more distance from your mic to the amp.
Hope that helps and feel free to reply on how you're going. I realise this is a bit overkill for a youtube comment reply but hope it helps haha!
@@davidshanhun Fantastic thanks so much for taking the time to type that out for me...I will give it a go.
I've tried but just can't get it to work. I followed everything you did (except I used assign 4) as 1 - 2- 3 are doing something. Any suggestions.
What input is your mic plugged into on the unit?
I did this and it mutes all of my inputs when I hit the loop fix pedal? Any suggestions?
Do you know if you can mute the mic on the Boss RC-500?
cool....how do i mute the mic but when unmuted it has delay on it?....cheers dude.
Set your fx to off, or on your fx delay turn it down to 0.
@@davidshanhun
i thought i had it, but as soon as i saved it didnt do it......what i need to do is be able to mute the mic, but when th mic is on i want the delay on it.....is this possible? cheers
edit: i get delay on guitar, but not the mic.....i just want then delay on the mic, not guitar, possible?
Hey, drinkers!! Get your inane babble out of my loop!!
Is this effective for just this track or can you set it globally?
Ooh good question 🤔 would have to go back and check as using the 600 now 😝
Is it still possible to use the effects and mute the mic at the same time?
Cuz I set the effect volume at 0
yes - just that they will always both turn on or off together. Only other way around it is to use an external pedal to mute the mic, or to turn fx on or off and remove the fx from the fx pedal etc.
I tried this. And it successfully muted the mic but then it also completely cleared my loop. Did I do something wrong?
Is it possible you already have your FX pedal assigned to Clear ALL? I added an External footswitch and assigned it to clear all instead of using the onboard pedal, maybe you could try re-assigning?
This workaround mutes all inputs not just mic?
make sure the target is set as per the video - it only mutes the mic input. 👌