I think the worst part is that they make it seem like she's the first virtual idol to exist, but her design is boring. Miku's design is simple but recognisable and she can morph into different Miku's for different producers and still be recognizable. Polar just looks like a bad e-girl lol
RIGHT. they act like this is the first time this has ever happened and nobody has ever done anything like this when hatsune miku has been doing concerts for years now.
Remember, Hatsune Miku/Vocaloid wasn't trying to be anything more than vocal demo software. It's the people that made her what she is. You can't manufacture that kind of support. If we ignore it, it will go away.
@@genericname2747 If it weren't for support from the community, she would've been forgotten like other Vocaloids. Hell, even in 2022 there's still new songs made using Miku.
it's quite funny, cause if miku didnt have her famous anime design, and instead some realistic design like some of the yamaha-made vocaloids im sure she wouldnt be as known as she is today
A) i really wish the singer behind Polar got more credit, cause she’s actually really skilled, and could have her own career outside this, and B) I just realized something: her design is straight up like a Bratz doll. The eyes, the pin-thin body, Polar’s design is a LOT like a Bratz doll, lol
I bet the singer's job is voicing over many other characters and songs in various media except Polar. So probably she makes a lot of money. Or either it's voice improving programs work
Girl could have easily rhymed “I’m not steel and wires” with “Ive got real world desires” but noooo, we can’t have that because this song was written in under 5 seconds
The reason why miku succeeded was because her image was almost entirely created by the fans: the songs, the memes, stories. Miku was a blank slate that people could turn into *their* virtual diva. I don't see much to work with this xbox avatar
4:31 Pros of polar: - nothing - has a UA-cam channel? - has a Tiktok? Pros of Hatsune Miku: - everyone can buy a license to use her voicebank(P.S. I know that she might not be affordable for everyone, but compared to Vocaloid 6, Piapro NT is pretty accessible and it comes with Miku NT. And it's very easy to use compared to traditional instruments) - she has a great voice - has multiple MMD model - She can be represented however you want according to her creators. - she got songs composed by many artists all over the world and those songs have actual meaning. - she has many voicebanks for many languages, including English and Japanese (I believe she has a Spanish, chinese and Korean voicebank too) - even Miku's oldest MMD model (MMD Miku legacy model which is obviously V2 Miku's design) is way better than polar's newest model. - everyone can make MMD models for Miku because Unity is free. - Miku can have Vroid models too which can be used with DSS and DSS is very cheap and achieves the same thing as MMD. - Miku's voice sounds amazing, even in her latest voicebank. - Miku's voice is easily palettable Ok, I think Miku clearly wins over Polar
this whole thing just feels WAY too manufactured. part of what makes hatsune miku so appealing is the fact that, since she’s an instrument anyone can use, she’s never had a set personality or appearance. they’re trying way too hard to make polar seem like a relatable human celebrity while trying to keep those vocaloid inspirations, which just doesn’t work, especially combined with how they’re seemingly not gonna acknowledge how similar she is to more popular vocaloids
it's SO generic, too. I'm not a Miku fan (no disrespect lol) but they're not on the same level. the animation looks low-effort and cheap for 2022 and Metaverse. they keep trying to force the parasocial angle (as Metaverse does) and like, that she's "more than a CGI model," but I don't buy it with that design and the most not-bad-but-very-generic songs. I wonder if it's that way on purpose - to appeal to as many people as possible but instead, don't garner much interest. we've seen an increase in virtual artists/influencers outside Japan like Apoki and KDA but they have real people backing them. Polar feels incredibly cynical and manufactured, like in the direction of Black Mirror but boring, even knowing that most "real" artists *are* manufactured.
she's literally just a v-tuber minus the part where v-tubers can go live and interact in real-time with their audience, which is what makes them cool. so she's just an animation project at this point
Had they gone with a popstar vtuber angle, this may have been not only pretty cool and interesting but super successful. I mean, just look at Ironmouse.
She doesn't even have a design that would be recognizable with different hairstyles and outfits, give her a unique body type and skin color, cool hair color combos, a specific style, she only really has a mask... She looks like one of my rushed ocs
And she only has a mask because animating a mouth in a realistic or even semi-realistic way would be to expansive and difficoult. The design has nothing to be saved, it's just bad craftmanship, as always with soul publishing
Right? Part of why Hatsune Miku was so popular was because you could see even an altered design of her and go, oh! I know who that is! Polar looks like a generic girl who never got out of her e-girl phase
That's what I was thinking! There are so many possibilities when it comes to character design that makes the character iconic and memorable, and yet they went the cheap route and made Polar look like a random model from a 3d modeling website with some added details. If only one small aspect of her design makes her stand out amongst other virtual idols and bands, she just ends up being forgettable.
It seems more like a vtuber than a virtual influencer: she's voiced by a person, not software, so that means she has a voice actress and is therefore, to an extent "real"
It feels sketchy to me to hire a voice actor to sing and voice a character and then pretend that it's AI. It feels like an excuse to not have to credit the performer and also a way to trick children. So all around just bad news. Hope this doesn't become a trend.
@@IAmNotAWoodenDuck actually it's already a very big trend to have virtual avatars for a number of things. They have virtual avatars to show off a lot of big name brand stuff and even a company solely meant for virtual models. They are trying to be diverse by having people of different skin tones and genders but at the same they're taking jobs from real people. Plus there's at least one of these avatars who tried to share a story of her being assaulted by a guy. It's just disgusting what they'll do to get attention and avoid paying actual people..
They had the opportunity to make this character look like literally anything and they chose to make her look like a fucking stickbug and dress her in Breshka clothing. It is ridiculous.
I feel like Polar is basically a 60 year old saying, "Hey fellow cool kids" Its like an old person's idea of what Gen Z is, if that makes sense. It just screams cooperate.
They literally inverted the meme and went "Thing BUT NOT JAPANESE!" and it's working at least with Western news media who never thought to Google "VR singer" before running the story (either that or it's a promo). The fact Soul Publishing keeps saying ABBA and not Gorillaz is also a sign they know not to mention better still currently mainstream competition but also shows they're Boomers lol.
Miku has literally opened for Lady Gaga,been on TV,was planned to be at Coachella 2020 before it got canceled,and is literally all over the world and is one of the most popular vocaloids. There’s no way they Didn’t know about Miku
And not just one of the most popular vocaloids, she is literally the first vocaloid that comes to mind when ppl who dont know vocaloid all that well think of. Teal blue long pigtails - iconic af.
They wrote the lyrics so painfully wordy, while also decimating the rhythm. Usually it is one or the other, but they are truly pushing the envelope on what is considered music with this one
Seriously, that "Generation Z" song sounds like a downgraded version of ItaloBrothers "Generation Party", which conveys much of the same thing but better. Way better
I’m almost 100% sure they’re butchering the rhythm to match similar kpop songs where they try to combine both English and Korean and things don’t totally fit of rhyme, like k/da or something
The worst part is her voice provider has a gorgeous voice, she has so much more potential than voicing a Hatsune Miku ripoff. Hopefully (if she hasn't already) she gets her own career.
It doesn't matter how good you are if you don't have personality. They can sink with the ship. She has already proven she can't make good decision if you're working with an obviously doomed company.
The Wikipedia article for virtual bands: "The term virtual band was popularized with Gorillaz in 2000. However, the concept of the virtual band was first demonstrated by Alvin and the Chipmunks in 1958, when their creator, Ross Bagdasarian, accelerated recordings of his own voice to achieve the 'chipmunk voice'." The idea of fictional musicians releasing their own music with real humans behind them has been around since _1958._ Everyone behind Polar has to know it's not a new phenomenon in any way, they just have to pretend to in order to make as much money as possible
literally when they said they were breaking barriers I screamed at my phone “GORILLAZ HAS BEEN DOING IT SINCE 98’- AND THAT WAS PRE INTERNET” Edit: also yes Alvin and the chipmunks equally deserve a mention
What makes Vocaloid so special is the community behind it. Yeah, she's cute and all, but first and foremost Miku is an instrument-one that makes creating lyrical music a lot more accessible than it would be otherwise, and because of that she (and Vocaloid as a whole) has garnered a massive community of artists who are able to use these instruments to create something they otherwise wouldn't have been able to, along with fans of said artists like myself. Most Vocaloid songs out there weren't made by a corporation, they were made by real, everyday people just doing something they love, and there's a lot of beauty in that you don't really get to see anywhere else. It only makes Polar all the more insulting, too. Imagine missing the point _that_ badly.
Hatsuke shaped a world with horrifying songs like Circle Circle and someone made Calne Ca as a horror concept taking on bullying leading to mass suicide. With Miku. And her voice as she says very real things in life is the best part of it. But yeah, this woman makes Ferham decent, and Ferham in MMX7 seem like a registered offender. (Not kidding, listen to her voice and how she interacts, Polar is so much worse than that and I'm pretty sure Ferham is inspired by Lena Dunham.)
exactly. it isnt that miku is a "pop idol" but that shes a tool and a mascot for vocaloid producers to create while having the opportunity for absolute anonymity. artists use miku as a an outlet, not only for producing music but, tuning voice and tweaking her design through illustration and animation as they see fit to create unique music/mv aesthetics that still holds the origin of hatsune miku. i entirely agree, miku, along with other vocaloids, would be nothing without the amazing artists and community that backs it.
Creations like Polar result from places with a very Anti-Art perspective, they don’t care about the creativity and the love people put into their artwork, only the rewards that can be reaped from it. It’s a place like that where things like Polar or whatever tech bros pull out from their rectum, their creations exist to bring them clout and money. And said creations also have a very visible lack of soul to them. This is what happens when you value quantity over quality.
Another thing: Hatsune Miku and her appearance is under Creative Commons, and you can do whatever with her. And she can be any race, gender, sexuality as you want to. And anyone with a voicebank licence can make songs and profit from it. She's the oposite of everything shitty with Polar lol
I'd also like to add that Miku and many other vocaloids can sing in various languages as well. Miku, a Japanese vocaloid, has Japanese, Chinese, and English voice banks. There's even American/English vocaloids, so Polar isn't doing anything different when it comes to language. She can only sing in English (so far).
I believe that freedom we've been given for Vocaloids is one of the reasons why they're so popular. We aren't being held down by copyright laws or having a company breathing down our necks when we create with/for Vocaloids. Its pure freedom for us and in a world where everything exists for a profit and you don't get to use anything without money. Vocaloids seem like they're a god-send to us folks without money to pay our way to copyright material. So many amazing, talented producers got to explore their talent with Vocaloids. To sharpen their skills or experience music creations without the need of a record label. And that's just something Polar doesn't give to us. She's simply a cheap way to make money without having to give most of the profits to a real musician. I 100% wouldn't be surprised if Polar's voice actor doesn't get compensated properly for her voice and time. They definitely seem like the type of company to swindle her out of money just because she isn't the face of the music.
@@BlurryNova technically they try to make Miku copyrighted since Japanese law about that is actually really stringent and archaic. It was once misused during Dwango vs Crypto debacle, check out Innocence song (by kazuP) origin cuz its wild!
@@notnormaljiji Imagine someone made another "Innocence" and managed to get Polar's Vocalist to sing the song Side by side with Miku. The reaction may wont be the best, but it will be an interesting sight to see.
They had the audacity to market her as an artist for Gen Z, as if we wouldn’t be able to sniff out an industry plant from a mile away 🙄 Jokes aside though, I don’t even think comparing Polar to Miku is fair because Miku was built on the mutual work of a community that’s been around for years! Polar is just somebody’s Xbox avatar, sorry not sorry-
Fr like,,,, gen z doesn’t need ugly ripoff Hatsune Mike we have the real one Right There and since she’s an instrument and not a person you don’t even have to listen to a specific genre to be able to enjoy her music there’s plenty of producers who make music of different genres so you can just go listen to whoever you like
god i hope yall reject her - this gen z pandering is so blatant, it's even worse than the shit they were doing to "connect" with millennials in the 2000s
is she even a voicebank...it sounds like a real person is singing...if that's the case then this is literally no different from Studio Killers or Gorillaz
@@annward7794 it most likely is a real person singing. Because with a voicebank, Vocaloids are usually very robotic in how they pronounce things, but I didn't hear that 'robot' voice from Dollar Store Miku
My favourite part about Close to You is that Vocaloid producers have been exploring that exact premise for years and doing a massively better job of it
Here to pick at her design bc art design: - Overall there’s no personality communicated in her design beyond an attempt to be ‘relatable’ by being trendy. This has the adverse effect of making her feel flat like a badly written young adult fiction protagonist as she has nothing personal about her. She will also become dated as trends change. - She doesn’t express. Like at all. You don’t need a character’s mouth to show emotions (look at Gromit) so the mask is no real excuse for that. This just makes her feel more like a robot than a person. - Either they need to make her hair less neon or darken her skin tone a tad because everything around her head is too bright. I can’t look at it comfortably. - She has no unique silhouette which makes her design seem generic and forgettable. I hate to reference the corporate mouse but you know the shape of Mickey’s head from a glance. She has no stylisations to proportions or anything to add to her silhouette that would make her feel less like a default model they slapped neon hair on. Just adding some lil hair buns or a hair piece would have helped with that. Everything about her feels more like a 3d model barbie they dress up than an actual personality, which is what they seem to be marketing her as. Overall it aint it chief. If you wanna see some decent designs of fictional musicians go look at Gorillaz
There are other ways to show expression, e.g. eyes and eyebrows. Polar can utilize that but hey, that would mean actual effort and we know that's not what TheSoul Publishing would do
And then look at Hatsune Miku - balanced color scheme, iconic silhouette, design isn't set on trends which makes her timeless... Polar stands no chance LOL
Honestly part of it is the fact that they have to show they're companies. i've seen jokes in ads that would make me laugh irl if a friend said it but when you see the corporate username it ruins the "flavour" of a joke because you know its some 40 year old dudes working in an office trying to figure out what kids like these days
Polar is doomed to fail because she's made to be "trendy", the clothing etc is so "today" Whereas Miku has a rather timeless design that keeps evolving. Especially if you collect figurines you know how creative some of her outfits get Edit: not to forget polar has a personality, whereas Miku is literally just a voice bank
One of the great things about Miku... She's not restricted the way other singers are. There's so much vocaloid content because anybody can write and producer for her as long as they pay, and this new pop star has nothing on that.
@@sophitiaofhyrule Maybe not miku herself, but there's some free voicebanks out there that are pretty good. It's been a while but i remember hearing about utauloid getting pretty good (if that's still free or cheap)
@@molluscumlore Have you seen how that one person (Teto-Chan Im p sure) tunes Teto?? It's actually incredible. Utauloids are really good if you know what you're doing.
@@sophitiaofhyrule Even then, she's oodles cheaper than most music software. I tried to get into music a few years ago and literally the only affordable non-free thing among the things I was considering DTM-wise was a voicebank. A LOT of new producers these days in Japan are teenagers, it's entirely possible to save up 160 dollars and buy Miku or friends and just rely on Garageband and Audacity for the rest. Especially with how Miku's company as their own standalone software now regardless of Vocaloid, you can buy either their own engine's Miku or one of the Vocaloid versions without having to buy Vocaloid itself (which stopped being plug n play over a decade ago). Buying just one instrument bank on the other hand could be like 300 or 400 dollars... 😵
@@titan133760for me miku is a ai girl who wants to become real by becoming a rockstar and she accidentally ended up with like a army of simps so she’s at war against the haters and the direct knock off of a knock of a copy
Polar feels so weird to me, because her design and marketing are clearly meant to appeal to kids, specifically kids who are left to scroll on TikTok and UA-cam endlessly with no parental supervision. She's doing the TikTok dances that are very suggestive but also very popular with kids watching, and her entire design looks like it's from a talking-Tom-esque app for children. She's very "grown-up", but in a way that's clearly meant to be consumed by children. And given the way this company seems to market almost exclusively to children with their other brands, it seems more than likely this was the goal. IDK, the whole thing gives me the ick.
My first thought was she looked like a Bratz doll. I hadn't thought about it but yeah a parent wouldn't think much of it if they saw her tiktoks on their kids' phone
yeah. when I saw what kind of content 11yo daughter of my friend devours... she would be all over this. she just love all the cheesy, lazy crap out there ...
Oh Close To You by Niki. That song almost made me cry. Btw that was not sung by Miku if any of yall in the comments, it was sung by another vocaloid called Lily.
@@elizabethramirezthezenshii9691 Yeah I think it made all of us cry lol, idk about you but I like the vflower and teto covers better than the original, I feel like Lily's voice isn't powerful enough
oh no jarvis you are correct in being put off by her design and terrible outfits. she's not a real person, or even a real person's individually designed virtual persona. she was designed by committee to hook prepubescent kids with the vague sexuality so that theyd stay hooked. its gross. this isnt a real woman making her own outfit choices.
Facebook Meta is advertising Polar as a sentient AI, but every song she sings sounds like a real human person is voice acting her, not a robot. They should've made all her songs come from a voice bank, like Vocaloid, rather than voice act each individual song if they want to advertise her as an AI and not a person.
My guess for treating her as if she's an AI is that it might be an attempt to mimic the success of Kizuna Ai, who was kind-of-sort-of marketed that way. (Or, for a western example, Projekt Melody [warning in case someone seeing this looks her up, her brand includes porn].) Of course, those characters were marketed to audiences old enough to understand that it's just a character gimmick and actual AI isn't nearly that advanced yet.
It could actually be a really well-made voicebank, I've heard a lot of VSynth (Eleanor Forte) songs that sound incredibly realistic and even some Miku songs depending on the version and tuning used...... But let's be real NFT bros aren't smart enough for that so yeah it's probably just a person recording them traditionally.
@@sophisticatedPJs Nope, its clearly a human voicing her, specially when she talks, because vouce synthesizers like vocaloid are not made to talk, so when they do it gets kinda wonky and you can tell its not a human talking. The part where Polar talked is waaaay too clear and smooth to be anything besides a human
The thing is tho... They literally could've made her hair ANY other color and it wouldn't have been that big of a deal. But they chose to make it teal, and like the EXACT teal of Miku. That was a bold choice, and a REALLY bad choice 😂
I’d love to try to redesign her character design but there’s literally no defining features to latch onto, I’d just be making an entirely new character. How do you make a character so unoriginal and bland that redesigning any of her features to make her design more unique completely changes the character entirely
id keep the mask, yellow eyes, and probably ponytail? those are really the only things making her recognizable as 'polar', so keep those and you should be good.
Ikr she’s literally a nothingburger I mean since you’re already stealing shit, steal LOTS OF SHIT. Steal from EVERYBODY Don’t just put some turquoise hair on a Pixar knockoff and call it a day, jfc
personality traits would be obsessive, creepy and self objectifying. heavy on the sex object angle. she was engineered for the male gaze, unfortunately. good luck i guess? this does not sound like a fun character to design
She's not even the 2nd virtual idol after Hatsune. Get in line behind Gumi, Rin/Lin, Kaito, Teto, Meiko, Luka, and hundreds other. Them acting like this is a unique and new thing is a slap in the face of the many talented producers and tuners doing amazing things with digital voice technology. They've been doing incredible things for 15 years now!
You can tell it was all marketing that they are trying to pretend its unique, new and shows how "great" the meterverse is, because a lot of people might not know MIKU, but if they know anything about western music, they would know who the Gorillaz are and they've been cartoons since 1998
yeah, if anything it's more similar to gorillaz since they weren't the face of an instrument but just the face of a band and polar is just the face of a singer
not to mentoin all publicity i've seen on her has been dunking on Polar calling her a hatsune miku clone. If anything this has just bolstered hatsune miku a bit more than anything
the funny thing about the "AI in love with a real person" thing is it's SUCH a common concept hell, we had an album about that, but leaned into the horror aspect
Yes the way she is dressed and designed being made by a whole company of adults feels strange bc she’s supposed to influence children. Miku shows some skin- but she still gives child-like energy and she still reads as an excitable pop star. It makes me wanna redesign polar.
I feel like they could have leaned more into the “robot” angle and make her more robotic and metallic, like an android. Instead they made her look like the hundreds of generic white girl influencers of Tik Tok (no offense to them, but it’s bland after a while).
Yeah, Hatsune Miku was inspired by japanese idols after all. As much as I know, idols (especially in the super-japanese sense, hope you get what I mean) are entertainers for every age so also children. She worked and still works well in her context.
also miku has a million different designs that different artists have made fitting different concepts, songs, and storylines bc vocaloid is about the actual producers and their music, not the robots themselves. it's never catered to only one group bc there are hundreds of creators making music that they're genuinely passionate about
even when hatsune miku shows an equal amount of skin as polar, it is just done so differently, and it doesn't feel like miku is being sexualised. prob mostly due to the dancing
Hatsune Miku, Studio Killers, Gorillaz and even Splatoon have done what TheSolar publishing is trying to do and way better come the fuck on lmao Also really funny that they gave her a mask to avoid lip syncing, I mean her animation is already janky and weird as hell, girl moves like a sim
It says a lot when idols from Splatoon seem more real and fleshed out than polar 💀 and I like they're music more despite the fact that I can barley understand it
For real. What made Splatoon so good is how unique and original the characters and music is. Even though the vocals kinda sound like water gargles, the music is recognisable and good to listen to. Even the characters are fleshed out in both design and personality
@@lolario7249 for context if you dont know: every splatoon game has a set of idols with songs and nintendo hosts real life concerts with holograms for them.
also from an animation standpoint if they make all her clothes form-fitting they don't have to deal with the movement simulation of baggy clothes. sexualization AND laziness!
The UA-cam channel description reads like she was made to be a soldier and then discovered a love for music and dancing, killed her captors and escaped to become a pop star
The fact that Polar feels so hollow and generic literally set her up for failure immediately. Why she feels that way is obvious- she's a simple marketing tactic and money grab. She feels hollow, because there was no true artistic intent involved in her original concept or creation, and even in the song writing. Part of the reason why Miku is so popular is because of how versatile the concept of a "voicebank" is; anyone has access to it and can create what they want. This creates a community of independent artists free of any limits that would be put into place if associated with companies or the like. Thanks to this, many talented people have gotten the chance to express their artistic vision through music and lyrics, which is what gives Vocaloid its "personality" and "passion," something Polar could never achieve bc of all the corporate insanity going on. She will never have the range in genres and topics Miku could ever have, considering the lack of artistic freedom and individuality.
Can’t believe Magical Mirai’s 10th year run was literally a few days ago and Meta is trying to make it sound like a hologram concert is a new revolutionary idea 🙄 Edit: oops was sleep deprived and mixed some numbers and names up
90% of mainstream entertainment's "innovation" is just ripping off niche subcultures that have been doing that thing for decades & pretending that they came up with it.
Miku Expo and other Vocaloid related hologram concerts has been around before Polar, like ffs kids and grandparents already knew hologram shows existed for like 10 years ago 💀💀💀
man this ain’t even vocaloid cause polar isn’t an AI voicebank, she’s trying to walk on gorillaz territory but christ almighty i’d take either vocaloid or gorillaz over this turquoise satan spawn any day 😭
They really wrote close to you like it was revolutionnary ignoring that "Your Reality" and "Sad Machine" exists with the same theme and just better on every aspect-
Something that makes Miku feel so alive is her voice. Not in the sense of the quality of her voice bank, but in the way she is utilized by individual creatives to create beautiful, meaningful, and personal songs. "Polar" fails to achieve this connection because her music is so generic and corporate. There is no life behind her words, making her feel empty. If "Polar" was a project by an individual person rather than the 5-minuet crafts conglomerate, she would have a voice.
utsu-p's works that have miku are literally so wonderful i really enjoy how miku is available to so many creators to use as an instrument, a voice to send a message and make music in their own style every producer is an artist creating pieces for different audiences, maybe just for themselves as well such different melodies, ranges and messages can be created just by the hands that use miku this polar shit is insulting to vocaloid producers
Everything about this screams that they wanted to make their own vocaloid singer, but didn't care to put the effort into character design, voice banking, animation, lip syncing, or literally anything besides sexualizing her. It's like they tried to present us with a cheap finger painting based off of the Mona Lisa and tried to tell us how much of a ground breaking masterpiece it is, despite the fact that we *know* what the Mona Lisa is and have no reason to be impressed by their garbage rip off.
It's an OC, but voice acted and also super corporatized. And that Mona Lisa finger painting thing is hella accurate to a lot of this stupid metaverse stuff.
@@taomongkol5921 good for you and also what you doing here child? You like, ten Edit: ok that was really dismissive of me, but when I was your age on the net I was playing dressup games under parental oversight and playing (or watching peoples playing) Minecraft, not going on drama/callout youtube.
People need to understand that these “AI influencers” aren’t AIs. They’re glorified VTubers with scripts written by professional copywriters. Not even the animation is automated, they’re just bored millennials cosplaying as robots for money.
THIS, I don’t think a lot of people realize that AI technically doesn’t exist yet, right now there’s no artificial intelligence that can think and program itself fully on its own, these “AI influencers” aren’t even a program, they’re just an animation with a voice over
I went to college for Music Composition, and I vividly remember one class where we had an in-depth discussion about Hatsune Miku and whether she could be considered a musician, and what that meant to people like us who were writing music. Polar has nothing on that. Why make a digital pop star if you’re just going to hire someone to sing anyway?
What I find particularly interesting/insulting about Polar trying to be the next miku is how badly it misses the mark on what made Miku popular in the first place: well over a decade of participatory culture. Crypton (the company that made Miku) are not responsible for her rise to fame, its the thousands of small-time artists that loved miku's design/concept/voice enough to create songs with her, draw her, etc. Thesoul publishing doomed Polar from the start by making her follower count and views a core part of her identity as a virtual star also her design sucks lol
this stuff is crazy. there's so many different holographic pop stars that came way before polar (most obvious being miku, but Nintendo has held splatoon concerts and of course there's k/da who's voiced by actual singers) it's crazy that they think they can get away with marketing polar as the first.
The thing about Hatsune Miku compared to Polar too is that Miku's rise was 100% grassroots. Sure, she was created by a multimillion-dollar corporation as a voicebank for a vocal synthesizer program made by Yamaha, but she was originally created as just a mascot for that product. Crypton Future Media's intent was for Miku to voice other characters in songs; not for Miku herself to be depicted as the one to be singing. Yet the community that formed on Nico Nico Douga back in 2007 depicted her as the singer almost universally, and through that they changed Miku from mascot to idol. Polar? Five Minute Crafts controls everything about her. That makes her feel _far_ more inauthentic to me. Miku's most iconic songs, despite her being basically a J-pop idol, have bite and substance to them - because they were made away from the prying eyes of the record label industry. And as long as Miku and Vocaloid software are sold to anyone regardless of whether they're with a label or not, new hit songs will always emerge from the indie scene, and new Vocaloid artists will always emerge. Meanwhile, since Five Minute Crafts is the only entity in charge of her production process, Polar's music feels safe and sanitized by comparison, like any other idol music.
The big thing about vocaloid is Most of the producers write about their own feelings. Miku, and other Vocaloids, give them the voice to create with. So the songs are usually truly authentic. It's one thing that'll make me never move on from Vocaloid genre
i know this a year ago already and Polar's "career" is probably dead already but i do love how they keep bringing up ABBA as inspiration instead of the other well known virtual bands that came before it. They really banking on you not knowing who Hatsune Miku is so the statement "We took inspiration from a real human band and made a virtual one" sounds more impressive and original than "we took a popular virtual star and made a shittier version"
Gotta love it when the metaverse tries its hardest to be innovative by doing things people have been doing for years, just with a marketable packaging on the outside. It's funny how hard they try to look special
Hatsune Miku isn't even comparable, because I can literally go buy Hatsune Miku Software and write new music with her vocals. She's literally not a person, she's one of dozens of hologram+voice programs that a company licences to anyone with enough money. I can't do a damn thing with the metaverse "influencers".
There is something more unique about Miku than Polar. Miku's songs are not made by one person, but instead hundreds of producers and fans, which was why she became popular in the first place. Anybody could make anything with her!
For reference, Miku is about to hit her 15th anniversary on the 31st of this year. Whether or not you know what Vocaloid is or know about the technology and culture behind it, Miku alone still reigns as the one who keeps breaking through the barrier. Not to mention, all of Miku's music is made by anyone who can buy her software. Even if Polar can gain traction, it would be impossible for Polar to have the same flexibility and vast library of music Miku has.
Thing is... they completely missed the point why vocaloids like Hatsune Miku became this popular in the first place. It's not te technology behind her that made her popular it's fact how fan friendly she is, you can just buy her voice bank and create everything from original songs to collaborations with your band, Miku and others can be turned into everything you want. Sure there is corporation behind her but all you see are fans from her figurines being based on winning fan design to her concerts featuring popular songs that were made by fans. Nobody loves Miku because she virtual singer who "releases" generic pop song under some corporations that sells NFTs, people loves her because she's just a cute canvas to convey your own idea and talent on and the community around it.
compared to hatsune miku, polar seems so soulless, almost feels like an insult to compare the two despite the obvious similarities. it's incredibly ironic since miku has virtually (pun ?) no official personality to her (along with her being just a voice with a face attached to it), and yet she seems to have infinitely more soul put into her than polar ever could.
exactly! there are so many games and videos where people have created their own personalities and appearances for hatsune miku. Polar just feels like nobody wanted her to exist, but rather its the creators just trying to cash in on the “virtual singer” genre.
She legit feels like a character in an episode of a Black Mirror episode especially with how 'popular' she is when people don't even know her, and now that I'm thinking about it...that doesn't sound half bad. A plot where an popular digital music artist becoming sentient the more 'characteristic' the producers add to her before she tries to take over either a random beautiful lady's body or an celebrity that already exists in order to 'feel more realistic'
No wonder, she was made in 5 minutes. They made her look like a giraffe, emotionless wish version of Miku, and a starved person with that looks like she hasn’t slept for 12 days. I say 12 cuz 11 was the limit before I presume death.
Her visual design isn’t even that appealing? I think part of the reason Miku has stayed relevant so long is because she has had good character design multiple times over.
fr the reason why miku can be recognized pretty easily is bc people actually cared about her design polar just looks like a oc someone made only to never draw them again 💀
Yeah. She doesn't even stick to one memorable outfit because she doesn't have a consistent character design. When you think "Miku", you think pigtails and her uniform-like outfit but when you think Polar... Eh. Even when Miku is put in different outfits you can still picture her design but since Polar doesn't have a consistent outfit and hairstyle... It's really difficult to picture her when you think "Polar."
Yeah they style her in only SheIn and Fashion Nova clothes with a tiny amount of Hot Topic sprinkled on top lol. And it's not appealing at all, just very generic
Funny how she claims she wants to be in front of her fans in the real world as if MIku didn't have a limited time pizza box concert. Also there's no way she can reach miku levels of songs cause Miku and all the other voice banks in the world like her because they're wide spread useable by anyone so the genres, themes, even language, can change from song to song. Polar isn't going to sing about propaganda and murdering a whole town and then her crush on a cute boy.
Yeah, seriously the whole time I thought "yo, polar. Ya know that miku did a real life concert in 2009, right? Plus, some irl person married miku too. So.... you don't have an excuse to say that you want to love people irl, and do concerts irl, and think you're the first person to do this."
She's from the same people who made those shitty craft channels. The goal is not to become bigger than Miku. This is definitely going to turn out to be yet another subversive Russian propaganda deal like the rest of their channels.
@@starame2452 oh, yeah! There's been a few splatoon concerts (i cant wait for more, really). And those characters didn't even know or care they were in a video game. And the only reason they were brought into real life to do a concert was because Nintendo thought it would be cool, Not because it seemed new.
I love how they try to make her personality deep like “I’m an ai but I feel and I want to be real and my dream is to be like arianna grande!” But they miserably fail in the process
In terms of her design... it's like, who's the target audience? Presumably younger teens. But Polar is basically built to appeal to the Male Gaze at the most basic level. Like, she doesn't have anything about her beyond that. So it's creepy and a bit predatory to pretend that "this is a sentient creature... and she 'choose' to make herself as much of a sexual object as possible. That's what's cool, good and desirable: she's an influencer, after all! You want to be like her, right teens?" So yeah, just more pressure on teens to (if they're female) mould themselves to fit this objectifying style, or, if they're male, they're being pressured into accepting "this is what you like. This is how women are"... regardless of what that young man thinks or feels. Also, it's lazy, because no thought has gone into her design beyond "sex and steal Miku's hair". So yeah, it's a shitty design that taps into people's id and targets teen insecurity, whilst also being a copyright violation.
Yeah. If it was an actual woman, it wouldn’t be that bad because it would be her choice to dress and dance like that. But, it’s just really creepy that she’s just being coded to appear and do that in an attempt to appeal.
this objectifying design of hers is extra weird when you consider the actual content that was shown on her tiktok is aimed at kids. another part of her design i haven't seen any mention of is her literally always heavily blushing, which feels very male gaze-y.
idea for a movie: her 3d model was actually just made for porn and porn only, until she monika'd into having a personality and human emotions and manipulated some business dude watching porn of her to make her exist in another format than just porn and became a pop idol
The lack of anyone mentioning the band Gorillaz makes me sad. Also a band who hugely did the, "We don't exist but do," kinda thing. They also did a load of concerts using holograms for their characters. Still out there doing awesome stuff as we speak.
I saw Hatsune Miku live in 2020 and it was her and 5 other vocaloids, it was an insane show, genuinely one of the best I've ever been to. Them trying to act as if they're doing something new with Polar when Japan was doing this shit (better, still) with Kyoko Date in literal 1996 is so off-putting honestly.
so is miku a real person then? bc i’ve seen ppl say she’s a game character and others an instrument but i love the songs by ayase lol (idk if they’re related somehow at all)
@@EmmaJohnsonShenanigans She's a program used to create synthesized vocals for music, but the character design that goes with the voice is often treated as an actual popstar. She does have several video games which are rhythm games based around her and several other vocaloids (other voicebanks, as they're called). She has concerts where she performs some of the most popular songs made using her voice as a hologram.
@@EmmaJohnsonShenanigans the other comments explain better than I do haha, her live is a hologram! it's pretty impressive how they do it, and was definitely an experience like no other. hoping to go to another miku expo eventually now shows are back on :')
i’m honestly sorta surprised no one has talked about the dang Gorillaz, they’ve been around since 1998 even before miku. they were one of the first popular bands that was like completely fake/made up and rose to a huge fame. even now the Gorillaz are popular and still producing bANGERs ! as well as have been performing concerts since 2001 with holograms but live instruments so like blEndinG of reality and digital media.
The Archies beat the Gorillaz as the first hit cartoon band with their song Sugar Sugar going No. 1 in the US in 1969 Also, more people are mentioning Hatsune Miku is because Polar is very obvious coping her style by being an animesque, virtual idol and the Gorillaz are more comic book, graffiti style, alt rock band.
j now learning that gorillaz are not real.... i thought their avatars were based off of them right???? is that what you're saying or are you telling me that they're made up because if they are made up i cant deal with this today
It's annoying to hear them take credit on a "ground breaking idea" that was already groundbreaking decades ago. That's all I see going on with the metaverse. Just taking ideas and marketing them as revolutionary when it's been done hundreds of times before but better. Digital idols like Miku and Tianyi have already broken into the real world in many ways. Polar is nothing new or revolutionary. Close to you is the Walmart version of Glass Wall ft Hatsune Miku
And K/DA did the masks so well to the point of making the live show performances better than this. (This is worse than the 2020 showing, and if you know how Kai'Sa looked... Yeah..)
im glad the comments are also taking this opportunity to praise hatsune miku, and im happy she's so mainstream now but also i feel bad because the other vocaloids (even more well-known ones) can get overlooked
@@TindraSan certainly, some producers tend to get recognised which is good, but it's not really standard. If I remember correctly it's lead to some producers retiring.
Love how they gave her a mask to avoid having to work on making her mouth move. At least the boomers who created her realized their skill set level and didn't even try. Edit: ope you just said the same thing. Glad we are on the same page
I never realised this. I thought it was just to buy into completely tactless ‘Covid-chique’ - but both of them as possibilities frustrate me just as much. Such a clear corporate cash grab in so many way’s.
This feels less like a straight up Hatsune Miku clone and more like a weird mash up of her and Gorillaz. As in, she's supposed to have the look and vibe of Hatsune Miku by being a pop star and the blatant hair but works like the Gorillaz by clearly having a voice actor and what seems like a backstory (or an attempt at lore) and interacting with us. I'm sure (and hopeful) this will fizzle out because Hatsune Miku and Gorillaz are innovative and can't topped by Polar over here and her whack movements.
Something about Miku that makes her influence incredibly special is that pretty much anybody can use her voice to write music, so you can delve into a rabbit hole where there are hundreds of THOUSANDS of songs using her voice, combining the talents of so many musicians and visual artists. Miku is incredibly moldable and it's become almost expected that when she appears in a song, she will have an alternate design to accompany the song's style or themes. It FEELS like Polar is almost trying to do that same thing, albeit unintentionally and incredibly watered down... Especially since many of Miku's different designs has spawned things like figurines. What I'm saying is, they really made a digital artist and took literally NONE of the advantages of her not being real to make a single one of her outfits or designs even REMOTELY visually interesting. Even the music videos don't take much advantage of the digital medium to go ham on making it look visually interesting and just?? Why?? Edit: OK editing onto this super quick now that i'm through the video, I just think its funny that so much of Polar's music is SPECIFICALLY about wanting to be real because they're digging themselves into this weird little hole where that's gonna become her ONLY notable personality trait
Exactly, they thought that if she says million times that she is digital and wants to be in the real world everyone is gonna love her and they didn't put love and soul to her.
I think the worst part is that they make it seem like she's the first virtual idol to exist, but her design is boring. Miku's design is simple but recognisable and she can morph into different Miku's for different producers and still be recognizable.
Polar just looks like a bad e-girl lol
RIGHT. they act like this is the first time this has ever happened and nobody has ever done anything like this when hatsune miku has been doing concerts for years now.
And the fact that Metaverse isn’t doing so well.
Cool username
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@@saspitite hello, other fellow transmasc
She has that “click this add and play this suspicious porn game” aura
for real this is some shit I would see while trying to pirate tv shows on some sketchy fuckin torrent website
A bit off topic, but I love the idea that this porn game is advertised as "suspicious"
I'm SO glad I wasn't the only one thinking it lmao she looks like her night job is betting people they'll bust in 10 seconds
@@epictacosamich Honestly every porn game is suspicious- never trust them
@@epictacosamich “See if she’s the imposter by fucking her!”
(Sorry)
Remember, Hatsune Miku/Vocaloid wasn't trying to be anything more than vocal demo software. It's the people that made her what she is. You can't manufacture that kind of support. If we ignore it, it will go away.
must protect hatsune miku
The world is indeed hers
Hatsune Miku was nothing, until we looked at the potential and said "Hey, let's make this into something"
@@genericname2747 If it weren't for support from the community, she would've been forgotten like other Vocaloids.
Hell, even in 2022 there's still new songs made using Miku.
it's quite funny, cause if miku didnt have her famous anime design, and instead some realistic design like some of the yamaha-made vocaloids im sure she wouldnt be as known as she is today
A) i really wish the singer behind Polar got more credit, cause she’s actually really skilled, and could have her own career outside this, and B) I just realized something: her design is straight up like a Bratz doll. The eyes, the pin-thin body, Polar’s design is a LOT like a Bratz doll, lol
Finally someone else realized it! She looks like a knock off Bratz & kda idol 😭
I bet the singer's job is voicing over many other characters and songs in various media except Polar. So probably she makes a lot of money. Or either it's voice improving programs work
dont credited her its going ruin her career if people discover that she voiced polar
oh THAT'S why she looks so familiar
Oh *wait* YEAH
Girl could have easily rhymed “I’m not steel and wires” with “Ive got real world desires” but noooo, we can’t have that because this song was written in under 5 seconds
5 Minute Lyric
@@LeafyGreenDA I just choked on my water
@@LeafyGreenDA lmao
@@LeafyGreenDA 🏆
You dropped this--
5 second deadlines
The reason why miku succeeded was because her image was almost entirely created by the fans: the songs, the memes, stories. Miku was a blank slate that people could turn into *their* virtual diva.
I don't see much to work with this xbox avatar
Lmao true
Lol Xbox Avatar,She does look like one.
The worst part is new xbox avatars look smoother when they move and are less bothering to look at
As a person who used to play on an Xbox (Xbox 360 I think) the Xbox avatar joke is killing me-
I mean polar does look like a 1 dollar budget Xbox avatar
If she's voiced by a real human, then doesn't that make her like a v-tuber insted of a hatsune miku clone
Yeah
I feel like they’re pretending she’s some kind of vocaloid ai for clout, when really it’s just a shite 3d model they had someone dub over
LITERALLY WHAT I WAS SAYING THE WHOLE TIME THANK YOU
That’s what I was thinking!
no, it would make her a vtuber that is a Miku clone
When the lyrics said “I thought that emotions are taking a forever nap inside me”, I literally had a flashback to “Lets together bath” 😭😭😭
come come everybody just come
D A N N Y G O N Z A L E Z
@mel_DeLux. YOU KNOW THAT????
@@Chadifer784 OH YESSS!!
@@qwertyuoqwertyuo6508 just *COME!*
don't ask any questions. let's together bath.
as not just a hatsune miku fan but a vocaloid fan as well, seeing polar’s design offends me in every way tbh
as a hatsune miku apathist polar’s design offends me
@@sas.tronaut5055 hear me out though, project diva’s angel costume>>>
Yes exactly this
Why does this exist. Its just annoying to vocaloid fans and people who like Miku
@@amberee STOP NO PLEASE
"pushing the boundaries of merging digital and real world spaces."
no, what they're pushing is their fucking luck.
lmaooo, true 😭. I’m at my wits end with this creature istg 😀.
@@afoolishman "CREATURE" 💀
They’re not pushing the boundaries of whatever, they pushing the boundaries on stupidity.
No, they're PUSHING 🅿
Hatsune miku already ate that
The fact they made her with a mask so she wouldn't need lipsync feels like when an artist hides the hand behind the back so they won't have to draw it
LMAO AS AN ARTIST I FEEL SO CALLED OUT 😭
Or we hide the other eye under some bangs or smth 😭🤚
@@whiteknucklejerk I know every weakness artists have (
I'm an artist and I feel very called out cause I do that exact thing but with the other eye and I cover it with hair or an accessory.
*extremely called out*
4:31
Pros of polar:
- nothing
- has a UA-cam channel?
- has a Tiktok?
Pros of Hatsune Miku:
- everyone can buy a license to use her voicebank(P.S. I know that she might not be affordable for everyone, but compared to Vocaloid 6, Piapro NT is pretty accessible and it comes with Miku NT. And it's very easy to use compared to traditional instruments)
- she has a great voice
- has multiple MMD model
- She can be represented however you want according to her creators.
- she got songs composed by many artists all over the world and those songs have actual meaning.
- she has many voicebanks for many languages, including English and Japanese (I believe she has a Spanish, chinese and Korean voicebank too)
- even Miku's oldest MMD model (MMD Miku legacy model which is obviously V2 Miku's design) is way better than polar's newest model.
- everyone can make MMD models for Miku because Unity is free.
- Miku can have Vroid models too which can be used with DSS and DSS is very cheap and achieves the same thing as MMD.
- Miku's voice sounds amazing, even in her latest voicebank.
- Miku's voice is easily palettable
Ok, I think Miku clearly wins over Polar
Frrr and her design is so cool
i can make multiple MMD model of Polar if u want
Creativity with Miku is infinite
this whole thing just feels WAY too manufactured. part of what makes hatsune miku so appealing is the fact that, since she’s an instrument anyone can use, she’s never had a set personality or appearance. they’re trying way too hard to make polar seem like a relatable human celebrity while trying to keep those vocaloid inspirations, which just doesn’t work, especially combined with how they’re seemingly not gonna acknowledge how similar she is to more popular vocaloids
Hatsune miku has already voiced 1000s of songs like "close to you", but polar could never pull off "the disappearance of hatsune miku"
@@molluscumlore polar couldn't even pull off that hatsune miku bacon wrapped hot dog commercial from the early 2010s
@@fangsfrthmmrs im new to vocaloid (2017) and i just wanted to thank you for introducing me to that commercial. i agree with you, polar could NEVER
it's SO generic, too. I'm not a Miku fan (no disrespect lol) but they're not on the same level. the animation looks low-effort and cheap for 2022 and Metaverse. they keep trying to force the parasocial angle (as Metaverse does) and like, that she's "more than a CGI model," but I don't buy it with that design and the most not-bad-but-very-generic songs. I wonder if it's that way on purpose - to appeal to as many people as possible but instead, don't garner much interest.
we've seen an increase in virtual artists/influencers outside Japan like Apoki and KDA but they have real people backing them. Polar feels incredibly cynical and manufactured, like in the direction of Black Mirror but boring, even knowing that most "real" artists *are* manufactured.
We are living in the weirdest timeline
she's literally just a v-tuber minus the part where v-tubers can go live and interact in real-time with their audience, which is what makes them cool. so she's just an animation project at this point
Like even the cheapest made v tuber model has lips that move 💀
@@personnemay2692 for real
Had they gone with a popstar vtuber angle, this may have been not only pretty cool and interesting but super successful.
I mean, just look at Ironmouse.
@@SteviiLove isn't that just a utaite?
Yes
She doesn't even have a design that would be recognizable with different hairstyles and outfits, give her a unique body type and skin color, cool hair color combos, a specific style, she only really has a mask...
She looks like one of my rushed ocs
And she only has a mask because animating a mouth in a realistic or even semi-realistic way would be to expansive and difficoult.
The design has nothing to be saved, it's just bad craftmanship, as always with soul publishing
Right? Part of why Hatsune Miku was so popular was because you could see even an altered design of her and go, oh! I know who that is! Polar looks like a generic girl who never got out of her e-girl phase
if you gave miku shiteyanyo legs and a mikudayo head she'd still be recognizable
That's what I was thinking! There are so many possibilities when it comes to character design that makes the character iconic and memorable, and yet they went the cheap route and made Polar look like a random model from a 3d modeling website with some added details. If only one small aspect of her design makes her stand out amongst other virtual idols and bands, she just ends up being forgettable.
It looks like a kda ripoff lmaoo
> Steals Miku's consept
> Makes her look like a Walmart version of SmookeBee
> Make musics about nothing
> Refuse to elaborate further
SMOOKEBEE
smokeebee mentioned!!!
Smokeebeeeeeeee
Not to mention her best song Close to you is a mashup of multiple regeton songs
HELP NOT SMOKEE
It seems more like a vtuber than a virtual influencer: she's voiced by a person, not software, so that means she has a voice actress and is therefore, to an extent "real"
So she’s just a 45 times worst KDA
While at the same time acting they’re like she’s a vocaloid/ a completely from scratch engineered character
@@annajohnston9528 yes
It feels sketchy to me to hire a voice actor to sing and voice a character and then pretend that it's AI. It feels like an excuse to not have to credit the performer and also a way to trick children. So all around just bad news. Hope this doesn't become a trend.
@@IAmNotAWoodenDuck actually it's already a very big trend to have virtual avatars for a number of things. They have virtual avatars to show off a lot of big name brand stuff and even a company solely meant for virtual models. They are trying to be diverse by having people of different skin tones and genders but at the same they're taking jobs from real people. Plus there's at least one of these avatars who tried to share a story of her being assaulted by a guy. It's just disgusting what they'll do to get attention and avoid paying actual people..
They had the opportunity to make this character look like literally anything and they chose to make her look like a fucking stickbug and dress her in Breshka clothing. It is ridiculous.
The first thing i thought of was the evil blonde twins from those Bratz movies, just me??
Oi, oi, that's quite true now. They DID copy paste the netflix movie "Polar"'s logo on her shirt. With permission I'm sure ...
starbucks employee
@@uncertain_zee i knew i had seen this 3d model before, you're so right
I am both creeped out and disgussted by Polar's design at the same time
I feel like Polar is basically a 60 year old saying,
"Hey fellow cool kids"
Its like an old person's idea of what Gen Z is, if that makes sense.
It just screams cooperate.
it doesn’t just scream it, it radiates corporate energy lol
Yeah exactly, some executive had his intern print out the google results for "Gen Z" and made a fake brand based on that.
I feel like this is more for Gen alpha then Gen Z I think most of Gen Z has mostly grown out of this type of stuff
They literally inverted the meme and went "Thing BUT NOT JAPANESE!" and it's working at least with Western news media who never thought to Google "VR singer" before running the story (either that or it's a promo).
The fact Soul Publishing keeps saying ABBA and not Gorillaz is also a sign they know not to mention better still currently mainstream competition but also shows they're Boomers lol.
I love how intensely he defends hatsune miku. he truly understands what an icon she is.
Miku has literally opened for Lady Gaga,been on TV,was planned to be at Coachella 2020 before it got canceled,and is literally all over the world and is one of the most popular vocaloids. There’s no way they Didn’t know about Miku
And not just one of the most popular vocaloids, she is literally the first vocaloid that comes to mind when ppl who dont know vocaloid all that well think of. Teal blue long pigtails - iconic af.
@@bat6594 ikr someone could have no idea what anime,vocaloid,vtubers, etc even is and they would probably still be familiar with miku lol
She was on flippin Letterman!!!
@@Yorokobi224 yeah,what I was referring to when I said she was on tv
@@lucky.komaeda4518 I know. Just piggybacking 😘
They wrote the lyrics so painfully wordy, while also decimating the rhythm. Usually it is one or the other, but they are truly pushing the envelope on what is considered music with this one
Seriously, that "Generation Z" song sounds like a downgraded version of ItaloBrothers "Generation Party", which conveys much of the same thing but better. Way better
I’m almost 100% sure they’re butchering the rhythm to match similar kpop songs where they try to combine both English and Korean and things don’t totally fit of rhyme, like k/da or something
@@mumblejumble9022 that very well may be
Sounds like someone just entered a few key words into an AI program to see if it could write a song.
@@mumblejumble9022 no you're so right, this entire project is a horrible attempt at mixing vocaloid, vtubers, and k/da
The worst part is her voice provider has a gorgeous voice, she has so much more potential than voicing a Hatsune Miku ripoff. Hopefully (if she hasn't already) she gets her own career.
This, dude. The vocalist is legit. It's just that she's given bottom tier lyrics to sing lol
It doesn't matter how good you are if you don't have personality.
They can sink with the ship.
She has already proven she can't make good decision if you're working with an obviously doomed company.
@@whatwhy4147 TheSoul Publishing obviously makes a lot of money, I wouldn't turn the job down if I was offered it.
I agree. She could've been forced into a contract and now has to make terrible videos.
@@whatwhy4147 Why would you say something like that about a person you don't even know? Your username is my exact reaction to your comment, my guy.
I'm so glad they took unrealistic body standards into the metaverse. What would the world do without them
i love influencer frozen style.
The Wikipedia article for virtual bands: "The term virtual band was popularized with Gorillaz in 2000. However, the concept of the virtual band was first demonstrated by Alvin and the Chipmunks in 1958, when their creator, Ross Bagdasarian, accelerated recordings of his own voice to achieve the 'chipmunk voice'." The idea of fictional musicians releasing their own music with real humans behind them has been around since _1958._ Everyone behind Polar has to know it's not a new phenomenon in any way, they just have to pretend to in order to make as much money as possible
Yess, was looking for a Gorillaz mention. They have been doing this with literally no attention for years.
literally when they said they were breaking barriers I screamed at my phone “GORILLAZ HAS BEEN DOING IT SINCE 98’- AND THAT WAS PRE INTERNET”
Edit: also yes Alvin and the chipmunks equally deserve a mention
I feel like Gorillaz has received attention
@@ahuffandapuff gorillaz, one of the biggest acts of the past 25 years, got no attention???
Thank you for mentioning the first real virtual band, Alvin & the Chipmunks.
Jarvis, Hatsune Miku isn't JUST the first virtual influencer, she's OLDER THAN THE CONCEPT OF INFLUENCERS! She really is an og
She's not even an influencer, she's an instrument.
@@TindraSan She’s not even an instrument, she’s an icon.
She's not older than that. The word, yes, but influencers existed since the late 1990s on the internet, friend.
Do you know what influencer means??
@@nachgeben right this person is just talking to talk
What makes Vocaloid so special is the community behind it. Yeah, she's cute and all, but first and foremost Miku is an instrument-one that makes creating lyrical music a lot more accessible than it would be otherwise, and because of that she (and Vocaloid as a whole) has garnered a massive community of artists who are able to use these instruments to create something they otherwise wouldn't have been able to, along with fans of said artists like myself. Most Vocaloid songs out there weren't made by a corporation, they were made by real, everyday people just doing something they love, and there's a lot of beauty in that you don't really get to see anywhere else.
It only makes Polar all the more insulting, too. Imagine missing the point _that_ badly.
exactly my thoughts
Hatsuke shaped a world with horrifying songs like Circle Circle and someone made Calne Ca as a horror concept taking on bullying leading to mass suicide. With Miku. And her voice as she says very real things in life is the best part of it.
But yeah, this woman makes Ferham decent, and Ferham in MMX7 seem like a registered offender. (Not kidding, listen to her voice and how she interacts, Polar is so much worse than that and I'm pretty sure Ferham is inspired by Lena Dunham.)
exactly!!
exactly. it isnt that miku is a "pop idol" but that shes a tool and a mascot for vocaloid producers to create while having the opportunity for absolute anonymity. artists use miku as a an outlet, not only for producing music but, tuning voice and tweaking her design through illustration and animation as they see fit to create unique music/mv aesthetics that still holds the origin of hatsune miku.
i entirely agree, miku, along with other vocaloids, would be nothing without the amazing artists and community that backs it.
Creations like Polar result from places with a very Anti-Art perspective, they don’t care about the creativity and the love people put into their artwork, only the rewards that can be reaped from it.
It’s a place like that where things like Polar or whatever tech bros pull out from their rectum, their creations exist to bring them clout and money. And said creations also have a very visible lack of soul to them. This is what happens when you value quantity over quality.
11:54 "I need technical support" would actually be a great lyric sung by a robot lady. They really should have leaned into the fact she's a computer.
Another thing: Hatsune Miku and her appearance is under Creative Commons, and you can do whatever with her. And she can be any race, gender, sexuality as you want to. And anyone with a voicebank licence can make songs and profit from it.
She's the oposite of everything shitty with Polar lol
I'd also like to add that Miku and many other vocaloids can sing in various languages as well. Miku, a Japanese vocaloid, has Japanese, Chinese, and English voice banks. There's even American/English vocaloids, so Polar isn't doing anything different when it comes to language. She can only sing in English (so far).
I believe that freedom we've been given for Vocaloids is one of the reasons why they're so popular. We aren't being held down by copyright laws or having a company breathing down our necks when we create with/for Vocaloids. Its pure freedom for us and in a world where everything exists for a profit and you don't get to use anything without money. Vocaloids seem like they're a god-send to us folks without money to pay our way to copyright material.
So many amazing, talented producers got to explore their talent with Vocaloids. To sharpen their skills or experience music creations without the need of a record label. And that's just something Polar doesn't give to us. She's simply a cheap way to make money without having to give most of the profits to a real musician. I 100% wouldn't be surprised if Polar's voice actor doesn't get compensated properly for her voice and time. They definitely seem like the type of company to swindle her out of money just because she isn't the face of the music.
@SmoliLoli I headcanon you having a different fucking name
@@BlurryNova technically they try to make Miku copyrighted since Japanese law about that is actually really stringent and archaic. It was once misused during Dwango vs Crypto debacle, check out Innocence song (by kazuP) origin cuz its wild!
@@notnormaljiji Imagine someone made another "Innocence" and managed to get Polar's Vocalist to sing the song Side by side with Miku. The reaction may wont be the best, but it will be an interesting sight to see.
They had the audacity to market her as an artist for Gen Z, as if we wouldn’t be able to sniff out an industry plant from a mile away 🙄
Jokes aside though, I don’t even think comparing Polar to Miku is fair because Miku was built on the mutual work of a community that’s been around for years! Polar is just somebody’s Xbox avatar, sorry not sorry-
Fr like,,,, gen z doesn’t need ugly ripoff Hatsune Mike we have the real one Right There and since she’s an instrument and not a person you don’t even have to listen to a specific genre to be able to enjoy her music there’s plenty of producers who make music of different genres so you can just go listen to whoever you like
XBOX AVATAR AHAH THERE WE GO
god i hope yall reject her - this gen z pandering is so blatant, it's even worse than the shit they were doing to "connect" with millennials in the 2000s
tramp stampz: the sequel
@@case3474 we already have, haven't you read this comment section?
is she even a voicebank...it sounds like a real person is singing...if that's the case then this is literally no different from Studio Killers or Gorillaz
except worse
Sounded like a real person to me
@@annward7794 it most likely is a real person singing. Because with a voicebank, Vocaloids are usually very robotic in how they pronounce things, but I didn't hear that 'robot' voice from Dollar Store Miku
Yes they have a real person dubbing over the animation.
eh, but its made by a corporation for i assume money, so its not really like those in spirit
My favourite part about Close to You is that Vocaloid producers have been exploring that exact premise for years and doing a massively better job of it
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@@ona512 if that happens I'm ending it all
There isn't any NSFW art of her character. All followers are 100% botted.
Best comment on this whole video lmao. Very true though
That's not a good sign. Even AroAce JaidenAnimations has NSFW art.
there goes my evening plans
Yea 100% a red flag
just checked there is 2 posts
Referring to miku as an "influencer" is a crime,she's an icon,a legend,she stabbed me outside a 7/11,she's a queen
I wish hatsune miku would stab me outside my local 7/11
no way she stabbed me outside of 7/11 too!!
Last thing I heard before getting stabbed was “Mikudayoooo~” and then all I remember was feeling cold
Dam it must be a current occurrence she also stabbed me outside of a 7/11 definitely a right of passage to the queenn
Miku, the 7/11 stabber, Hatsune
Here to pick at her design bc art design:
- Overall there’s no personality communicated in her design beyond an attempt to be ‘relatable’ by being trendy. This has the adverse effect of making her feel flat like a badly written young adult fiction protagonist as she has nothing personal about her. She will also become dated as trends change.
- She doesn’t express. Like at all. You don’t need a character’s mouth to show emotions (look at Gromit) so the mask is no real excuse for that. This just makes her feel more like a robot than a person.
- Either they need to make her hair less neon or darken her skin tone a tad because everything around her head is too bright. I can’t look at it comfortably.
- She has no unique silhouette which makes her design seem generic and forgettable. I hate to reference the corporate mouse but you know the shape of Mickey’s head from a glance. She has no stylisations to proportions or anything to add to her silhouette that would make her feel less like a default model they slapped neon hair on. Just adding some lil hair buns or a hair piece would have helped with that.
Everything about her feels more like a 3d model barbie they dress up than an actual personality, which is what they seem to be marketing her as. Overall it aint it chief.
If you wanna see some decent designs of fictional musicians go look at Gorillaz
There are other ways to show expression, e.g. eyes and eyebrows. Polar can utilize that but hey, that would mean actual effort and we know that's not what TheSoul Publishing would do
And then look at Hatsune Miku - balanced color scheme, iconic silhouette, design isn't set on trends which makes her timeless... Polar stands no chance LOL
im thinking about gorillaz's character designs now, and yea theyre all so unique and recognizable! polar's design is definitely a disappointment
@@HNBGamer true, they were so lazy they put a mask on her face, just so they won't have to animate her mouth when she speaks/"sings"
Polar absolutely looks like a knock-off Bratz dress-up game avatar
she has a hidden talent!...and that talent should stay hidden
the singing isn't actually that bad, it's just the marketing and writing that is terrible
@@the-postal-dudeyea
As a gen z seeing companies trying their darn hard to relate with gen z and failed miserably is amusing.
Lol same
Same
Same
@SmoliLoli lol yes
Honestly part of it is the fact that they have to show they're companies. i've seen jokes in ads that would make me laugh irl if a friend said it but when you see the corporate username it ruins the "flavour" of a joke because you know its some 40 year old dudes working in an office trying to figure out what kids like these days
Polar is doomed to fail because she's made to be "trendy", the clothing etc is so "today"
Whereas Miku has a rather timeless design that keeps evolving. Especially if you collect figurines you know how creative some of her outfits get
Edit: not to forget polar has a personality, whereas Miku is literally just a voice bank
Despite Miku being just a voice bank she somehow has ten times more personality than Polar
@@byrdseed283 Lol
@@byrdseed283 ALULA????
@@instantdoodles4828 ALULA (REAL)!!!
@@byrdseed283 facts are facts America
One of the great things about Miku... She's not restricted the way other singers are. There's so much vocaloid content because anybody can write and producer for her as long as they pay, and this new pop star has nothing on that.
To be fair, Miku isn't that accessible because the software is crazy expensive.
@@sophitiaofhyrule Maybe not miku herself, but there's some free voicebanks out there that are pretty good. It's been a while but i remember hearing about utauloid getting pretty good (if that's still free or cheap)
@@molluscumlore Utualoids were pretty good even back then
@@molluscumlore Have you seen how that one person (Teto-Chan Im p sure) tunes Teto?? It's actually incredible. Utauloids are really good if you know what you're doing.
@@sophitiaofhyrule Even then, she's oodles cheaper than most music software. I tried to get into music a few years ago and literally the only affordable non-free thing among the things I was considering DTM-wise was a voicebank.
A LOT of new producers these days in Japan are teenagers, it's entirely possible to save up 160 dollars and buy Miku or friends and just rely on Garageband and Audacity for the rest. Especially with how Miku's company as their own standalone software now regardless of Vocaloid, you can buy either their own engine's Miku or one of the Vocaloid versions without having to buy Vocaloid itself (which stopped being plug n play over a decade ago).
Buying just one instrument bank on the other hand could be like 300 or 400 dollars... 😵
“Forever nap” =
*”TOGETHER BATH”*
To think Miku and all the other Vocaloids have no canon traits but somehow have more personality than Polar is quite baffling tbh, lmaooo
the fans did that.
Miku is a blank slate. It's up to you to give her a characterization
@@titan133760for me miku is a ai girl who wants to become real by becoming a rockstar and she accidentally ended up with like a army of simps so she’s at war against the haters and the direct knock off of a knock of a copy
@@levievil9220to me, miku acts like the queen bee of vocaloids, but always gets roasted by the other vocaloids.
@@theincarnateofkurro new head cannon unlocked old head cannon is now deleted I shall take your head cannon and use it as my own
Polar feels so weird to me, because her design and marketing are clearly meant to appeal to kids, specifically kids who are left to scroll on TikTok and UA-cam endlessly with no parental supervision. She's doing the TikTok dances that are very suggestive but also very popular with kids watching, and her entire design looks like it's from a talking-Tom-esque app for children. She's very "grown-up", but in a way that's clearly meant to be consumed by children. And given the way this company seems to market almost exclusively to children with their other brands, it seems more than likely this was the goal.
IDK, the whole thing gives me the ick.
My first thought was she looked like a Bratz doll. I hadn't thought about it but yeah a parent wouldn't think much of it if they saw her tiktoks on their kids' phone
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yeah. when I saw what kind of content 11yo daughter of my friend devours... she would be all over this. she just love all the cheesy, lazy crap out there ...
there are bad people out there with a lot of money that have a really dark agenda. lately it feels like they're winning.
Plus only kids would have the lack of knowledge to actually fall for the idea that this is one of the first times this has happened.
It's funny how her first single is called "close to you" which is LITERALLY the name of a very well known vocaloid song lmfao
My favorite song from my favorite artist, Niki-p!!
To be fair, allot of those titles are super simple, prob for marketability id guess. Maybe the translated names at least are very simple.
Special moment celebrating being the 666✞h like on this comment ✟ysm
Oh Close To You by Niki. That song almost made me cry. Btw that was not sung by Miku if any of yall in the comments, it was sung by another vocaloid called Lily.
@@elizabethramirezthezenshii9691 Yeah I think it made all of us cry lol, idk about you but I like the vflower and teto covers better than the original, I feel like Lily's voice isn't powerful enough
This polar character looks like if they found a single human in the splatoon universe.
oh no jarvis you are correct in being put off by her design and terrible outfits. she's not a real person, or even a real person's individually designed virtual persona. she was designed by committee to hook prepubescent kids with the vague sexuality so that theyd stay hooked. its gross. this isnt a real woman making her own outfit choices.
and most likely a committee of grown men, at that.
Facebook Meta is advertising Polar as a sentient AI, but every song she sings sounds like a real human person is voice acting her, not a robot. They should've made all her songs come from a voice bank, like Vocaloid, rather than voice act each individual song if they want to advertise her as an AI and not a person.
My guess for treating her as if she's an AI is that it might be an attempt to mimic the success of Kizuna Ai, who was kind-of-sort-of marketed that way. (Or, for a western example, Projekt Melody [warning in case someone seeing this looks her up, her brand includes porn].) Of course, those characters were marketed to audiences old enough to understand that it's just a character gimmick and actual AI isn't nearly that advanced yet.
It could actually be a really well-made voicebank, I've heard a lot of VSynth (Eleanor Forte) songs that sound incredibly realistic and even some Miku songs depending on the version and tuning used...... But let's be real NFT bros aren't smart enough for that so yeah it's probably just a person recording them traditionally.
@@sophisticatedPJs nah theres an irl singer behind polar
@@sophisticatedPJs Nope, its clearly a human voicing her, specially when she talks, because vouce synthesizers like vocaloid are not made to talk, so when they do it gets kinda wonky and you can tell its not a human talking. The part where Polar talked is waaaay too clear and smooth to be anything besides a human
@@satsujin4027 it’s possible there’s multiple voicebanks and programs used
I like how in almost every dance, she tries to throw it back when she has literally nothing to throw back
Go girl give us nothing
literally designed to be a sexual dancer and given the flattest ass I've ever seen
Ayyyy free nothing
AHAHAHAHHA HELP
Just goes to show how actual little effort they are willing to put into her lol
The thing is tho...
They literally could've made her hair ANY other color and it wouldn't have been that big of a deal. But they chose to make it teal, and like the EXACT teal of Miku. That was a bold choice, and a REALLY bad choice 😂
I’d love to try to redesign her character design but there’s literally no defining features to latch onto, I’d just be making an entirely new character. How do you make a character so unoriginal and bland that redesigning any of her features to make her design more unique completely changes the character entirely
ngl i was thinking of redesigning it too but i couldnt even brainstorm anything that didnt look like elsa from frozen snorted twelve kilos of crack
id keep the mask, yellow eyes, and probably ponytail? those are really the only things making her recognizable as 'polar', so keep those and you should be good.
Ikr she’s literally a nothingburger
I mean since you’re already stealing shit, steal LOTS OF SHIT. Steal from EVERYBODY
Don’t just put some turquoise hair on a Pixar knockoff and call it a day, jfc
personality traits would be obsessive, creepy and self objectifying. heavy on the sex object angle. she was engineered for the male gaze, unfortunately. good luck i guess? this does not sound like a fun character to design
I think about the only defining feature is the mask., honestly.
She's not even the 2nd virtual idol after Hatsune. Get in line behind Gumi, Rin/Lin, Kaito, Teto, Meiko, Luka, and hundreds other. Them acting like this is a unique and new thing is a slap in the face of the many talented producers and tuners doing amazing things with digital voice technology. They've been doing incredible things for 15 years now!
Gorrilaz👀
Also KDA
@@imthatgirlagain yes
Plus like *everything* coming out of the music arm of League of Legends. K/DA would eat her
@@imthatgirlagain OG oG OG
You can tell it was all marketing that they are trying to pretend its unique, new and shows how "great" the meterverse is, because a lot of people might not know MIKU, but if they know anything about western music, they would know who the Gorillaz are and they've been cartoons since 1998
Not to mention KDA
yeah, if anything it's more similar to gorillaz since they weren't the face of an instrument but just the face of a band and polar is just the face of a singer
but gorillaz weren't made by a billionaire conglomerate lol
not to mentoin all publicity i've seen on her has been dunking on Polar calling her a hatsune miku clone. If anything this has just bolstered hatsune miku a bit more than anything
the funny thing about the "AI in love with a real person" thing is it's SUCH a common concept
hell, we had an album about that, but leaned into the horror aspect
I love that as a concept even if it’s overused but they did it so terribly with polar
Yes the way she is dressed and designed being made by a whole company of adults feels strange bc she’s supposed to influence children. Miku shows some skin- but she still gives child-like energy and she still reads as an excitable pop star. It makes me wanna redesign polar.
I feel like they could have leaned more into the “robot” angle and make her more robotic and metallic, like an android. Instead they made her look like the hundreds of generic white girl influencers of Tik Tok (no offense to them, but it’s bland after a while).
Yeah, Hatsune Miku was inspired by japanese idols after all. As much as I know, idols (especially in the super-japanese sense, hope you get what I mean) are entertainers for every age so also children. She worked and still works well in her context.
Bro, I think Miku shows less skin than this thing called polar does. Trash Hatsune Miku ripoff.
also miku has a million different designs that different artists have made fitting different concepts, songs, and storylines bc vocaloid is about the actual producers and their music, not the robots themselves. it's never catered to only one group bc there are hundreds of creators making music that they're genuinely passionate about
even when hatsune miku shows an equal amount of skin as polar, it is just done so differently, and it doesn't feel like miku is being sexualised. prob mostly due to the dancing
Hatsune Miku, Studio Killers, Gorillaz and even Splatoon have done what TheSolar publishing is trying to do and way better come the fuck on lmao
Also really funny that they gave her a mask to avoid lip syncing, I mean her animation is already janky and weird as hell, girl moves like a sim
It says a lot when idols from Splatoon seem more real and fleshed out than polar 💀 and I like they're music more despite the fact that I can barley understand it
For real. What made Splatoon so good is how unique and original the characters and music is. Even though the vocals kinda sound like water gargles, the music is recognisable and good to listen to. Even the characters are fleshed out in both design and personality
Fucking splatoon.
...splatoon?
@@lolario7249 for context if you dont know: every splatoon game has a set of idols with songs and nintendo hosts real life concerts with holograms for them.
also from an animation standpoint if they make all her clothes form-fitting they don't have to deal with the movement simulation of baggy clothes. sexualization AND laziness!
And yet they still look like shit
The UA-cam channel description reads like she was made to be a soldier and then discovered a love for music and dancing, killed her captors and escaped to become a pop star
So like Splatoon 2's Marina?
Why does that sound like a good plan
2010s Deviantart mary sue backstory my beloved
The fact that Polar feels so hollow and generic literally set her up for failure immediately. Why she feels that way is obvious- she's a simple marketing tactic and money grab. She feels hollow, because there was no true artistic intent involved in her original concept or creation, and even in the song writing.
Part of the reason why Miku is so popular is because of how versatile the concept of a "voicebank" is; anyone has access to it and can create what they want. This creates a community of independent artists free of any limits that would be put into place if associated with companies or the like. Thanks to this, many talented people have gotten the chance to express their artistic vision through music and lyrics, which is what gives Vocaloid its "personality" and "passion," something Polar could never achieve bc of all the corporate insanity going on. She will never have the range in genres and topics Miku could ever have, considering the lack of artistic freedom and individuality.
Mmmmmmmm Thank you Mao.
Can’t believe Magical Mirai’s 10th year run was literally a few days ago and Meta is trying to make it sound like a hologram concert is a new revolutionary idea 🙄
Edit: oops was sleep deprived and mixed some numbers and names up
Metaverse isn't a company, it's a buzzword. A buzzword can't be trying to do anything.
90% of mainstream entertainment's "innovation" is just ripping off niche subcultures that have been doing that thing for decades & pretending that they came up with it.
It's Magical Mirai's 10th year run actually. The one celebrating 15th year run is Miku (she's released in 2007)
Miku Expo and other Vocaloid related hologram concerts has been around before Polar, like ffs kids and grandparents already knew hologram shows existed for like 10 years ago 💀💀💀
I can’t wait to see videos online, hatsune miku is my heart and soul and how dare they try to disrespect her
Man, as a vocaloid fan, I might just start gatekeeping virtual artists. Miku did NOT walk so Polar could run
She did not walk so Polar could shamble forward like some sort of goblin.
man this ain’t even vocaloid cause polar isn’t an AI voicebank, she’s trying to walk on gorillaz territory but christ almighty i’d take either vocaloid or gorillaz over this turquoise satan spawn any day 😭
@@altrivotzck6565 She didnt even goblin walk she crawled 0000.1 space
Miku ran so Polar could crawl.
Give it a few months and next thing you know it, Polar tripped and fell.
They really wrote close to you like it was revolutionnary ignoring that "Your Reality" and "Sad Machine" exists with the same theme and just better on every aspect-
Something that makes Miku feel so alive is her voice. Not in the sense of the quality of her voice bank, but in the way she is utilized by individual creatives to create beautiful, meaningful, and personal songs. "Polar" fails to achieve this connection because her music is so generic and corporate. There is no life behind her words, making her feel empty.
If "Polar" was a project by an individual person rather than the 5-minuet crafts conglomerate, she would have a voice.
rolling girl 😤✊
MOU IKKAI MOU IKKAI
utsu-p's works that have miku are literally so wonderful
i really enjoy how miku is available to so many creators to use as an instrument, a voice to send a message and make music in their own style
every producer is an artist creating pieces for different audiences, maybe just for themselves as well
such different melodies, ranges and messages can be created just by the hands that use miku
this polar shit is insulting to vocaloid producers
Everything about this screams that they wanted to make their own vocaloid singer, but didn't care to put the effort into character design, voice banking, animation, lip syncing, or literally anything besides sexualizing her. It's like they tried to present us with a cheap finger painting based off of the Mona Lisa and tried to tell us how much of a ground breaking masterpiece it is, despite the fact that we *know* what the Mona Lisa is and have no reason to be impressed by their garbage rip off.
It's an OC, but voice acted and also super corporatized. And that Mona Lisa finger painting thing is hella accurate to a lot of this stupid metaverse stuff.
I’m convinced the only reason she has a mask is so they don’t have to animate half her face.
I think whoever’s voicing her is talented at singing, and should stop voicing Polar because she could honestly be popular with good lyrics by herself
I dunno, but if she is real then she should quit
She sounds like grimes lowkey, she could be a good artist lol
Notsune Miku
Her voice reminds me a lot of Camila Cantaloupe. Just high pitched and nasally.
Yeah, right? I liked her voice genually and I hope the voice actress gets out of that place! :D
8:49 her dancing feels more robotic than patchwork staccato's choreography
Idk why she targeted Gen Z, she should target Gen Alpha. They’re like maximum 8-9 and are easier to entertain.
Lmao
Some might know though
@RobotBlue as a gen alpha i disagree. every kid i have ever met know hatsune miku.
@@taomongkol5921 good for you and also what you doing here child? You like, ten
Edit: ok that was really dismissive of me, but when I was your age on the net I was playing dressup games under parental oversight and playing (or watching peoples playing) Minecraft, not going on drama/callout youtube.
@@taomongkol5921 They’re probably just saying that they won’t notice how much of a rip-off Polar is even if they know Miku.
bet it's most of her following , the oldest alpha's are about 12 now so
As if this creepy green haired girl has even a smidge of the iconic power of Hatsune Miku, embarrassing that she’d even try
Ikr
pfp is serving other than the outdated transphobic flag
i wonder if someones made a polar utau yet just to be funny
@@mooiioo8094 how is it transphobic?
@@derplerp8174 the person who designed it was openly transphobic :(
People need to understand that these “AI influencers” aren’t AIs. They’re glorified VTubers with scripts written by professional copywriters. Not even the animation is automated, they’re just bored millennials cosplaying as robots for money.
THIS, I don’t think a lot of people realize that AI technically doesn’t exist yet, right now there’s no artificial intelligence that can think and program itself fully on its own, these “AI influencers” aren’t even a program, they’re just an animation with a voice over
Don't call them v-tubers I don't want to be associated with this 😭 /j
now that's an insult to vtubers, who at least have personalities to make them entertaining.
@@HetaClaude that or a model made by theartgun, a lotta vtubers substitute a personality with that.
@@Lefty_loosey kwebblekop:
I went to college for Music Composition, and I vividly remember one class where we had an in-depth discussion about Hatsune Miku and whether she could be considered a musician, and what that meant to people like us who were writing music. Polar has nothing on that. Why make a digital pop star if you’re just going to hire someone to sing anyway?
What I find particularly interesting/insulting about Polar trying to be the next miku is how badly it misses the mark on what made Miku popular in the first place: well over a decade of participatory culture. Crypton (the company that made Miku) are not responsible for her rise to fame, its the thousands of small-time artists that loved miku's design/concept/voice enough to create songs with her, draw her, etc. Thesoul publishing doomed Polar from the start by making her follower count and views a core part of her identity as a virtual star
also her design sucks lol
Yeah this Polar is not new, trashy even. A fucking product that is so bad nobody even had heard until now.
this stuff is crazy. there's so many different holographic pop stars that came way before polar (most obvious being miku, but Nintendo has held splatoon concerts and of course there's k/da who's voiced by actual singers) it's crazy that they think they can get away with marketing polar as the first.
Imagine a song with the lyrics "dwly dwly hpble bwbwbw" being better than one with market reasearch behind it
Yes! Apoki too!
Gorillaz has been doing this since the late 90’s.
I was waiting for somebody to mention the Splatoon concerts!
@@dltr4730 I'll have you know that those songs are *great* and I will not allow this slander.
The thing about Hatsune Miku compared to Polar too is that Miku's rise was 100% grassroots. Sure, she was created by a multimillion-dollar corporation as a voicebank for a vocal synthesizer program made by Yamaha, but she was originally created as just a mascot for that product. Crypton Future Media's intent was for Miku to voice other characters in songs; not for Miku herself to be depicted as the one to be singing. Yet the community that formed on Nico Nico Douga back in 2007 depicted her as the singer almost universally, and through that they changed Miku from mascot to idol.
Polar? Five Minute Crafts controls everything about her. That makes her feel _far_ more inauthentic to me. Miku's most iconic songs, despite her being basically a J-pop idol, have bite and substance to them - because they were made away from the prying eyes of the record label industry. And as long as Miku and Vocaloid software are sold to anyone regardless of whether they're with a label or not, new hit songs will always emerge from the indie scene, and new Vocaloid artists will always emerge. Meanwhile, since Five Minute Crafts is the only entity in charge of her production process, Polar's music feels safe and sanitized by comparison, like any other idol music.
The big thing about vocaloid is Most of the producers write about their own feelings. Miku, and other Vocaloids, give them the voice to create with. So the songs are usually truly authentic. It's one thing that'll make me never move on from Vocaloid genre
I didn’t read all that 😊
I read all that thank you for the insightful comment 👍
i know this a year ago already and Polar's "career" is probably dead already but i do love how they keep bringing up ABBA as inspiration instead of the other well known virtual bands that came before it. They really banking on you not knowing who Hatsune Miku is so the statement "We took inspiration from a real human band and made a virtual one" sounds more impressive and original than "we took a popular virtual star and made a shittier version"
"Polar came from an ABBA concert where they used a hologram on stage" sure it did bud
Funny thing, recently keep being recommended her vids on insta. Still sucks ass tho
Vocaloids, Gorillaz, Studio Killers, vtubers... it's wild how hard companies push metaverse shit like it hasn't been done 20 times already
Don’t forget “Alvin and the Chipmunks” and “Josie and the Pussy Cats”
This stuff has been a thing since the 70s
Gotta love it when the metaverse tries its hardest to be innovative by doing things people have been doing for years, just with a marketable packaging on the outside. It's funny how hard they try to look special
Your favorite martian is also one
Vtubers at least call Miku Senpai tbh
@@TheRealAmadeusMozart Zucc's Metaverse don't even look marketable. Compared to its rival, VR Chat, Metaverse is a shitty ripoff lmao.
Hatsune Miku isn't even comparable, because I can literally go buy Hatsune Miku Software and write new music with her vocals. She's literally not a person, she's one of dozens of hologram+voice programs that a company licences to anyone with enough money. I can't do a damn thing with the metaverse "influencers".
To be fair, EVERYTHING in the meta verse is parading as something new and exciting despite being a less cool version of pre-existing stuff.
There is something more unique about Miku than Polar. Miku's songs are not made by one person, but instead hundreds of producers and fans, which was why she became popular in the first place. Anybody could make anything with her!
For reference, Miku is about to hit her 15th anniversary on the 31st of this year. Whether or not you know what Vocaloid is or know about the technology and culture behind it, Miku alone still reigns as the one who keeps breaking through the barrier. Not to mention, all of Miku's music is made by anyone who can buy her software. Even if Polar can gain traction, it would be impossible for Polar to have the same flexibility and vast library of music Miku has.
Which 31st?
August 31st!
Thing is... they completely missed the point why vocaloids like Hatsune Miku became this popular in the first place.
It's not te technology behind her that made her popular it's fact how fan friendly she is, you can just buy her voice bank and create everything from original songs to collaborations with your band, Miku and others can be turned into everything you want. Sure there is corporation behind her but all you see are fans from her figurines being based on winning fan design to her concerts featuring popular songs that were made by fans.
Nobody loves Miku because she virtual singer who "releases" generic pop song under some corporations that sells NFTs, people loves her because she's just a cute canvas to convey your own idea and talent on and the community around it.
Well said
fr love this community
compared to hatsune miku, polar seems so soulless, almost feels like an insult to compare the two despite the obvious similarities. it's incredibly ironic since miku has virtually (pun ?) no official personality to her (along with her being just a voice with a face attached to it), and yet she seems to have infinitely more soul put into her than polar ever could.
exactly! there are so many games and videos where people have created their own personalities and appearances for hatsune miku. Polar just feels like nobody wanted her to exist, but rather its the creators just trying to cash in on the “virtual singer” genre.
She legit feels like a character in an episode of a Black Mirror episode especially with how 'popular' she is when people don't even know her, and now that I'm thinking about it...that doesn't sound half bad.
A plot where an popular digital music artist becoming sentient the more 'characteristic' the producers add to her before she tries to take over either a random beautiful lady's body or an celebrity that already exists in order to 'feel more realistic'
That's kinda what "iJustine" is
No wonder, she was made in 5 minutes. They made her look like a giraffe, emotionless wish version of Miku, and a starved person with that looks like she hasn’t slept for 12 days. I say 12 cuz 11 was the limit before I presume death.
WAIT WHAT REALLY OMG I DIDN'T KNOW
Well, maybe it could be longer than 11, but that's the longest it's been documented, cool general knowledge to use in an insult lol
Polar was the true 5 minute craft all along
why is "made her look like a giraffe" the funniest insult to me 💀
Her visual design isn’t even that appealing? I think part of the reason Miku has stayed relevant so long is because she has had good character design multiple times over.
fr the reason why miku can be recognized pretty easily is bc people actually cared about her design
polar just looks like a oc someone made only to never draw them again 💀
Her outfits range from pickme zoomer to shein haul
Yeah. She doesn't even stick to one memorable outfit because she doesn't have a consistent character design. When you think "Miku", you think pigtails and her uniform-like outfit but when you think Polar... Eh. Even when Miku is put in different outfits you can still picture her design but since Polar doesn't have a consistent outfit and hairstyle... It's really difficult to picture her when you think "Polar."
Yeah they style her in only SheIn and Fashion Nova clothes with a tiny amount of Hot Topic sprinkled on top lol. And it's not appealing at all, just very generic
@@cynnnnnn8799 when she says polar all I can picture are polar bears with microphones
Funny how she claims she wants to be in front of her fans in the real world as if MIku didn't have a limited time pizza box concert.
Also there's no way she can reach miku levels of songs cause Miku and all the other voice banks in the world like her because they're wide spread useable by anyone so the genres, themes, even language, can change from song to song. Polar isn't going to sing about propaganda and murdering a whole town and then her crush on a cute boy.
Yeah, seriously the whole time I thought "yo, polar. Ya know that miku did a real life concert in 2009, right? Plus, some irl person married miku too. So.... you don't have an excuse to say that you want to love people irl, and do concerts irl, and think you're the first person to do this."
They even had Splatoon live hologram concerts I’m pretty sure, it’s definitely not something new whatsoever
She's from the same people who made those shitty craft channels. The goal is not to become bigger than Miku. This is definitely going to turn out to be yet another subversive Russian propaganda deal like the rest of their channels.
@@starame2452 oh, yeah! There's been a few splatoon concerts (i cant wait for more, really). And those characters didn't even know or care they were in a video game. And the only reason they were brought into real life to do a concert was because Nintendo thought it would be cool, Not because it seemed new.
polar is unable to make something as wild as Francium
“What stage of capitalism is this” perfectly encapsulates what companies are doing these days.
I love how they try to make her personality deep like “I’m an ai but I feel and I want to be real and my dream is to be like arianna grande!” But they miserably fail in the process
Especially when that's like literally bog standard robot/ai personality. Like oh golly the robot has "Feelings"
Projekt Melody literally does it better
@@toasatoshi what is that?
@@Limacinablues Melody is an American Vtuber from VShojo. She's one of the more popular personalities in the Vtuber scene and the "cultured" scene.
"the disappearance of hatsune miku" does it so much better and that's literally just _one_ song, and it still does it better than all of polar's songs
In terms of her design... it's like, who's the target audience?
Presumably younger teens. But Polar is basically built to appeal to the Male Gaze at the most basic level. Like, she doesn't have anything about her beyond that.
So it's creepy and a bit predatory to pretend that "this is a sentient creature... and she 'choose' to make herself as much of a sexual object as possible. That's what's cool, good and desirable: she's an influencer, after all! You want to be like her, right teens?"
So yeah, just more pressure on teens to (if they're female) mould themselves to fit this objectifying style, or, if they're male, they're being pressured into accepting "this is what you like. This is how women are"... regardless of what that young man thinks or feels.
Also, it's lazy, because no thought has gone into her design beyond "sex and steal Miku's hair".
So yeah, it's a shitty design that taps into people's id and targets teen insecurity, whilst also being a copyright violation.
Yeah. If it was an actual woman, it wouldn’t be that bad because it would be her choice to dress and dance like that. But, it’s just really creepy that she’s just being coded to appear and do that in an attempt to appeal.
this objectifying design of hers is extra weird when you consider the actual content that was shown on her tiktok is aimed at kids. another part of her design i haven't seen any mention of is her literally always heavily blushing, which feels very male gaze-y.
she isnt any more sexualised than a generic kpop idol tbh
thank god no real person is gonna like this at least
idea for a movie: her 3d model was actually just made for porn and porn only, until she monika'd into having a personality and human emotions and manipulated some business dude watching porn of her to make her exist in another format than just porn and became a pop idol
The lack of anyone mentioning the band Gorillaz makes me sad. Also a band who hugely did the, "We don't exist but do," kinda thing. They also did a load of concerts using holograms for their characters. Still out there doing awesome stuff as we speak.
yes!!! so surprised that i had to scroll so far to see someone mention gorillaz
Everyone forgets this band when talking about virtual artists like they didn’t completely pioneer the idea
The way they said that she’s the first 3d singer or some shit made me so offended. They did not just ignore our queen Hatsune Miku like that
Who cares about a fake singer
I saw Hatsune Miku live in 2020 and it was her and 5 other vocaloids, it was an insane show, genuinely one of the best I've ever been to. Them trying to act as if they're doing something new with Polar when Japan was doing this shit (better, still) with Kyoko Date in literal 1996 is so off-putting honestly.
so is miku a real person then? bc i’ve seen ppl say she’s a game character and others an instrument
but i love the songs by ayase lol (idk if they’re related somehow at all)
@@EmmaJohnsonShenanigans hatsune miku is not real shes just a hologram 🙂
@@EmmaJohnsonShenanigans She's a program used to create synthesized vocals for music, but the character design that goes with the voice is often treated as an actual popstar. She does have several video games which are rhythm games based around her and several other vocaloids (other voicebanks, as they're called). She has concerts where she performs some of the most popular songs made using her voice as a hologram.
What other vocaloids performed?:)
@@EmmaJohnsonShenanigans the other comments explain better than I do haha, her live is a hologram! it's pretty impressive how they do it, and was definitely an experience like no other. hoping to go to another miku expo eventually now shows are back on :')
i’m honestly sorta surprised no one has talked about the dang Gorillaz, they’ve been around since 1998 even before miku. they were one of the first popular bands that was like completely fake/made up and rose to a huge fame. even now the Gorillaz are popular and still producing bANGERs ! as well as have been performing concerts since 2001 with holograms but live instruments so like blEndinG of reality and digital media.
Yea, on one vid I just saw like 5 people talk about it
The Archies beat the Gorillaz as the first hit cartoon band with their song Sugar Sugar going No. 1 in the US in 1969
Also, more people are mentioning Hatsune Miku is because Polar is very obvious coping her style by being an animesque, virtual idol and the Gorillaz are more comic book, graffiti style, alt rock band.
@@WilliamTice Yes! Glad someone mentioned them!
the only thing is that polar clearly draws more from miku than gorillaz
j now learning that gorillaz are not real.... i thought their avatars were based off of them right???? is that what you're saying or are you telling me that they're made up because if they are made up i cant deal with this today
It's annoying to hear them take credit on a "ground breaking idea" that was already groundbreaking decades ago. That's all I see going on with the metaverse. Just taking ideas and marketing them as revolutionary when it's been done hundreds of times before but better.
Digital idols like Miku and Tianyi have already broken into the real world in many ways. Polar is nothing new or revolutionary. Close to you is the Walmart version of Glass Wall ft Hatsune Miku
Also can't forget the fact Lil Miquela exists.
@@metelius2779 and Gorillaz
And K/DA did the masks so well to the point of making the live show performances better than this. (This is worse than the 2020 showing, and if you know how Kai'Sa looked... Yeah..)
Close to you sounds like it would be in the background of an edgy 2018 gacha video
im glad the comments are also taking this opportunity to praise hatsune miku, and im happy she's so mainstream now but also i feel bad because the other vocaloids (even more well-known ones) can get overlooked
I wish people had paid more attention to Utatane Piko before he got discontinued, he deserved an update.
You know who gets overlooked? The actual song producers.
@@TindraSan fr. it’s so annoying when people credit the vocaloid for the song instead of the actual producer
@@TindraSan certainly, some producers tend to get recognised which is good, but it's not really standard. If I remember correctly it's lead to some producers retiring.
Not just Vocaloids, synthvs too!
Love how they gave her a mask to avoid having to work on making her mouth move. At least the boomers who created her realized their skill set level and didn't even try. Edit: ope you just said the same thing. Glad we are on the same page
I never realised this. I thought it was just to buy into completely tactless ‘Covid-chique’ - but both of them as possibilities frustrate me just as much. Such a clear corporate cash grab in so many way’s.
@@Evanz111 "Covid-Chique" is a good way of putting it
Polar:I’m gonna bring digital influencing to real life!
Miku:Hold my leek
Miku isn’t an influencer, she’s a cultural icon and instrument/medium for creating songs and art.
YES!!!!!!
I know referring to her as a influencer makes her sound like a person and she isn’t she is an instrument you buy
yesss
And mugging you outside a 7/11
HATSUNE MIKU DID IT BETTER
Hatsune Miku is the pioneer of J-Pop, and no one will change that
SO TRUE
preach
100x BETTER!!
🤩
Agreed
This feels less like a straight up Hatsune Miku clone and more like a weird mash up of her and Gorillaz. As in, she's supposed to have the look and vibe of Hatsune Miku by being a pop star and the blatant hair but works like the Gorillaz by clearly having a voice actor and what seems like a backstory (or an attempt at lore) and interacting with us. I'm sure (and hopeful) this will fizzle out because Hatsune Miku and Gorillaz are innovative and can't topped by Polar over here and her whack movements.
Yeah! Her, Gorillaz and k/da
@@erikdaniels0n also like music focused VTubers have had concerts as well
Gorillaz released their first album literally 20 years before Polar was made!
@@throwawayaccount4008 EXACTLY
My thoughts aswell
For literally forever, all I can ever hear in the GOLD intro is "Jarvis Johnson, GOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAL"
Something about Miku that makes her influence incredibly special is that pretty much anybody can use her voice to write music, so you can delve into a rabbit hole where there are hundreds of THOUSANDS of songs using her voice, combining the talents of so many musicians and visual artists. Miku is incredibly moldable and it's become almost expected that when she appears in a song, she will have an alternate design to accompany the song's style or themes.
It FEELS like Polar is almost trying to do that same thing, albeit unintentionally and incredibly watered down... Especially since many of Miku's different designs has spawned things like figurines.
What I'm saying is, they really made a digital artist and took literally NONE of the advantages of her not being real to make a single one of her outfits or designs even REMOTELY visually interesting. Even the music videos don't take much advantage of the digital medium to go ham on making it look visually interesting and just?? Why??
Edit: OK editing onto this super quick now that i'm through the video, I just think its funny that so much of Polar's music is SPECIFICALLY about wanting to be real because they're digging themselves into this weird little hole where that's gonna become her ONLY notable personality trait
Exactly, they thought that if she says million times that she is digital and wants to be in the real world everyone is gonna love her and they didn't put love and soul to her.
@@Pinkyorangegirl i love ur pfp shiver is so dang great
@@Lunestonez Thanks, i call this specific Shiver photo her Cursed Shiver