Charlie has a TON of great information out there. In my opinion, this is by far the most accurate to the point synopsis of our Christian heritage I have ever heard.
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State. Thomas Jefferson
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State. Thomas Jefferson
"IMAGINE IF YOU WILL??? 55 members of the wealthy aristocracy, a majority of whom are lawyers, meet in secret proceedings, vowing to each other never to mention what transpires in their conference for 50 years. Also, remember, several members of this group owe substantial sums of money to the government which is in effect at that time. They continue to meet for almost 4 months, without any known form of compensation, creating without the authority to do so a new form of government which ironically contains the provisions which completely absolve their large debts to the former government. In essence they create a government which clears them of millions of dollars of debt, all of which will be paid by others using the taxing schemes written into their new form of government. When one of the members of the group proposes a Bill of Rights to protect the rights of the society which will operate under the new government, the motion is defeated by unanimous vote. The Rights of the Individual were determined to be the polar opposite of the goals of their new government. This group ignored a written, formal plea from the Quakers of Philadelphia to do away with chattel slavery but welcomed the plea from the synagogue of Philadelphia to eliminate any oath to the Christian Faith in the federal and state governments which they promptly acceded to and wrote into their new document/government. Ironically, many of the men who criminally wrote this new form of government would be elected to serve in this government of their own creation. In the bizzaro world of Boobus Americanus, popular academia and Christian, Conservative America, everything these men did has been declared “inspired by god” and completely off limits for intelligent discussion or challenge. AND FOLKS HAVE THE AUDACITY TO ASK: “HOW DID WE GET IN THIS MESS?” - Michael Gaddy
Bottom line, Psalm 9:17. We have now and will get the leaders we deserve. We all bear some guilt for the U.S.'s fall some just more than others. The blood of 65 million babies cries out and God hears.
You can get the Transcription by clicking "more" under the video then clicking "Transcription". I always have to try twice to get the Transcription to open.
So wrong. Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind. John Adams
Charlie provides a good response, but this has to be said: what makes our society insane is, the govt no longer respects private property, as it did when the USA was started. private property is not upheld as the highest political moral principle anymore. "Christian" ... as Charlie talks about here, is nice and good, and will go a long way even if the govt does not respect private property. But "being christian" was not the focus of the Federal level documents, meaning, the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution/Bill of Rights. All four of those recognized that people can and do choose different religious beliefs -- and religious beliefs are greatly varied among large numbers of people! The ONE thing that would allow all different peoples with all different beliefs, to live together in a civilized manner, is the supreme sanctity and respect of private property. EVERYONE back then wanted these three things: life, liberty and their own pursuit of happiness, which if adhered, pursued, followed ... would naturally result in the acquisition of private property. Laws which protected private property from theft, molestation, destruction ... and govt enforcement of those laws and govt endorsement of self-defense of property ... are the common thing which will make society sane and civil and allow all peoples of all different faiths to pursue their faith and live it out as they deem appropriate and correct. It does me no harm for someone to tell me that there is one God or 10 gods, for neither of them either break my leg or picks my pocket. Our aliveness and our physical bodies are our FIRST property. Life is about parlying those two things into pursuit and acquisition of any other property as we deem desirable or necessary. The USA is insane because the govt has already gone communist by relentlessly attacking our property by criminalizing harmless, victimless behavior; taxing our gained property, and by attacking us for defending our bodies, our lives and our stuff. And.... by 'hijacking' non-govt things, turning them into "civil rights" or otherwise making non-govt things into a thing that the govt regulates, such as marriage, divorce and licensing of damn near everything. A lot of these bad changes started being a thing after they started allowing any and all women to vote. We should not be allowed to vote just because we are a certain gender. There needs to be more requirements than that, and, when the USA started, there were: you could only vote if you owned a business or some land ... because the govt back then was not inserted into our lives, the govt would only 'affect' only those two things. But now that the govt has been inserted into every aspect of our lives, thanks to the Nanny State, thanks to emotional voting...we let any moron vote. And we have a lot of political / civics morons today. Again, because of emotional voting.
The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. Thomas Jefferson
Charkie Kirk hasn't debated anyone about religion that knows what theyre talking about and i would love to see that. Debate matt dillahunty or aron rah, or that other guy on pangburn channel. I want to see it lol
I think if it ever goes to the Supreme Court and text history and tradition standards are used in deciding this which is what they use for everything, I’ll bet any amount of money even the liberal judges will have no choice but to vote god back into government.
All due respect seems like a bunch of hocus pocus mumbo jumbo. I follow the federal constitution of the United States it’s very clear on religion in there. Part of the reason people immigrated here is for religious freedom including freedom not to practice religion. If you wanna be religious great keep it out of my government. John Adams and George Washington and the founding fathers were more worried about the two party system than a theocracy
Indeed it was! Gov Rod Blagokevich acknowledged this in interview w Tucker. We need to study all the Founders writings, not Just Madison, Jefferson, and Franklin who were the least Christian. Fisher Ames wrote the first Amendment. Back then "religion" meant "Christian denomination" not all religions. Separation of church and state meant Govt shall not establish a "Christian denomination" over another. Read letters between Danbury Baptist Association and newly inaugurated Pres Jefferson, which has been misinterpreted.
James Madison drafted the first amendment and our Bill of Rights he is called "The Father of The Constitution." Ames contributed to the wording of it along with other people in congress, but he didn't explicitly write it. The establishment clause clearly states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" it didn't specify denominations or limit itself to Christianity it simply states religion. Madison once said: "Who does not see that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other sects." Madison was arguing that if a government establishes Christianity as a state religion over others it will enventually lead to one specific denomination or one sect ruling. He knew that in order to have religious liberty for all, you must have a secular government. I don't think the Danbury Baptitst letters and Jefferson have been misinterpreted. In Jefferson's letter he said "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church & State." The reason why the Danbury Baptists wrote to Jefferson in the first place is because their religious liberty was under attack in the state of Connecticut because of the state run congregationalist church. Jefferson wasn't just talking about the government interfering with religion he was also talking about religion interfering with the government. Jefferson was a Deist who not only cut out parts of The Bible that talked about Jesus' divinity. He also authored the Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom which states: “No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burdened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief.” The Founding Fathers saw what happened in England with the Monarchy and the state run church which is why they went out of their way to distance themselves from them. They knew that once religion interfered with the government that it would lead to the corruption of both. Why is it that God, Jesus, and Christianity are not even mentioned in the constitution once. "The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."- The Treaty of Tripoli signed by John Adams.
The founding fathers clearly stated that they based our lawas on the Hebrew Scripture and Anglo-Saxon (English) Common Law. Common Law although it began in a pagan Europe by the time of the colonies had been shaped by several centuries into a thoroughly Christian system. So yes, the system was expressly built on Christian principles from Testaments Old and New.
@@larrybedouin2921 English Common Law was the the evolution of Anglo-Saxon Common law which was old Germanic customary and tribal law. This is common knowledge history - it had nothing to do with Rome. As the Anglo-Saxons in England were Christianized the Common Law took on a more explicitly Christian tuning not that the principles were that far off to begin with.
@lawrencejones4693 Wrong! Why did you insert the word English before common law. Common law says to take from the rich to give to the poor. (But God calles it left) The so called distribution of wealth is purely a Roman ideology, but they're not coming off with any of theirs.
Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind. John Adams
Excellent. A chunk of the Declaration of Independence is almost verbatim from North Carolina's first Constitution which was written with the help of John Locke in the late 1600's. Locke WAS NOT A DEIST either. He was a devout theologian and philosopher. This means that the mention of God in the Declaration is not some deist god. It is THE GOD OF THE BIBLE who grants us our rights. 1A was in fact NOT about freedom from religion but freedom OF religion.
The declaration of Independence is merely a letter sent to the King of England advising of our Independence. It holds no weight in comparison to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature. . . . [In] the formation of the American governments . . . it will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of heaven. . . . These governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses. John Adams
A lot of this conversation misses the point by looking at the founders' words without considering the provenance of the founders' ideas. Common law has deep historical and cultural roots. The form of it is basically old Anglo-Saxon law, but the spirit of it comes from the thousand years of heavy Christian influence. The founders' were just the inheritors of that tradition.
The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature. . . . [In] the formation of the American governments . . . it will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of heaven. . . . These governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses. John Adams
The American concept of liberty is firmly rooted in Natural Law which is usually attributed to Christian philosopher John Locke Locke, in essence, repackaged Thomas Aquinas treatise on Natural Law for a Protestant audience. Aquinas was a 13th century Franciscan priest. He was the first philosopher to define liberty, as opposed to freedom, and assert that liberty was God's intended state for mankind. Freedom is chaos whereas liberty is freedom from oppression. Aquinas recognized that human nature craved order and that for any system of order to be just it must be oriented to God's intention and in service of His creation. It took the Protestant Reformation to force the paradigm shift that would allow Natural Law to be put into practice. The idea that our officially secular government must also be vocally atheist is wrong. We are a nation with no official state religion, founded by deeply religious intellectuals.
Like Benjamin Franklin? It is much to be lamented that a man of Franklin's general good character and great influence should have been an unbeliever in Christianity, and also have done as much as he did to make others unbelievers. Benjamin Franklin
Trying to wrap my mind around what exactly is fascism, especially when Charllie says he is not a fadcist, I would be concerned that the idrology he speaks of certainly is a form of fascism. A, ‘It's our way or the highway’, mentality. Unfortunately, the brilliant design of our Constitution was immediately misinterpreted fairly quickly. By design? Judging by the obvious confused state our nation is in, I’d say yes.
Rome established 753 BC *Known as the Period of Kings 753 BC to 509 BC *Polytheistic & Animistic Religious *Dominated by Etruscans Republic of Rome Established in 509 BC lasting until 27 BC *Capitoline Triad Established in 509-507 BC and Became the Prominent Belief almost immediately --The Capitoline Triad consisted of Three Gods: Jupiter, Juno, Minerva *Household Shrine Worship became widespread *Public Religious Ceremonies Began being Performed in Temples and Festivals *The Incorporation of Foreign God's & Cult beliefs, i.e. Isis(egyptian) *A Focus on Ancestral Worship(spirits) begins *Ritual and Sacrifice begins ●1st Triumvirate Established in 60 BC - 53 BC consisting of: Julius Caesar Gnaeus Pompey Magnus Marcus Licinius Crassus *TRIUMVIR = Ruling Body of Three ●2nd Triumvirate Established in 43 BC - 32 BC consisting of: Octavian Marc Antony Marcus Lepidus *27 BC the Republic of Rome Ends, bringing in the Roman Empire(27 BC - 476 AD) with Octavian, also known as Augustus serving as Rome's First Emperor. An entirely new form of Government always brings in or ultimately creates new forms of religious beliefs, and this is no Different with Rome when becoming an Empire in 27 BC as it was when becoming a Republic in 509 BC. *325 AD the Christian Trinity is Established at the Council of Nicea, and taking it's official form in 380 AD by, you guessed it, a Triad of Saints: St. Basil of Caesarea St. Gregory of Nyssa St. Gregory of Nazianzus *Holy Trinity also called: The Nicene Creed *Trinity = Three Ways of Being *Father, Son, Holy Ghost *The Life of Romans from the formation of the Capitoline Triad in 509 BC until mid-late in the 5th Century AD when Christianity replaced Capitoline Triad beliefs was based on some very important words: 'OMNE TRIUM PERFECTUM' *Everything in Threes is Perfect Or *All Three Perfect Romans, worshipping a Triad of Gods for 900+ years before Christianity appeared it would make sense to keep the TRIAD as part of any new creation story such as the beliefs of Roman Catholics and Christians in general. 1st century AD Rome was also one of the most carefully chronicled of the entire Roman Empire, and there are ZERO mentions of Jesus or Yeshua by any Roman, Greek, or Jew of the time Jesus was said to have ministered(Year 1 to 33). Scholars and Theologians will swoon about Tacitus "possibly" mentioning Jesus, yet forget to mention that Tacitus was born "Around" twenty or more years after the "accepted" ministry of Jesus. There is not a single piece of evidence that exists which can prove or even point to the birth, life, ministry, and death of "jesus" from that time, medically, orally, artistically, or otherwise, and no proof exists to prove the Gospels were written before the 4th Century AD(the oldest complete new testament with Gospels in existence). Proof of Historical Truth NEVER dwells in Concepts, Possibilities, or Probabilities, but Possibilities are what you can expect when you get "Scholarly" or "Theological" understanding. Scholars and Theologians both agree that the Gospels were "possibly" started to be written around the year 70 AD to 120ish AD by both Eyewitnesses and from Oral Traditions, but not a single iota of physical or oral evidence exists to support this, so it isn't even based in MOST LIKELIES. ***BONUS****************************** When Christianity was formed every major religious belief also had a Trinity, just as the Pagan Beliefs of the Religion of the Capitoline Triad Christianity Replaced was. Egyptian = Life, Death, Rebirth Vedic = Being, Consciousness, Bliss Daoism = Passive, Active, Vital Energy Buddhism = Dharmakaya, Sambhogakaya, Nirmanakaya ***************************************** Why were the Gospels believed to be written at least 25+ years to 100+ years after the ministry of jesus is supposed to have taken place? Does this make sense to even the most ignorant of intellects? Christian Beliefs as currently practiced by 2,400,000,000 people were created by Roman Emperors and Leaders after hunting, imprisoning and executing those of the Awareness of God Omnipresence who wrote the Spiritual Letters found in the bible, then hundreds of years of fashioning its message to suit the church, right up to and beyond the Establishment of the Trinity in 325 AD after several hundred plus Bishops who couldn't agree on which of their versions of the Trinity was right, convened to agree upon the Trinity of the church as accepted today. The communities of these God Infinite, Omnipresent Aware beings that were spread out around the Roman Empire were destroyed by Romans after witnessing the Demonstration of God Infinite such as told in the story of Stephen. There are even a few stories of "converts" to this Infinite Awareness such as Paul and John who we are told were Beheaded by Rome for not entertaining anything less that the Omnipresence of God as all Activity. You know, If I speak of myself, I bear witness to a lie because I, of mine own self am nothing, can do nothing because it is the Father, which is my father and your father, that does the work!!! The First Jewish-Roman War in 68 AD, and the Siege of Jerusalem in 70 AD were the perfect guises for the purpose of the execution, destruction, and theft of all things "Spiritual," to ultimately be used as a tool of religious control. These people(you can call them Mystics or Priests of God) did not hide these manuscripts that have been found in many caves in the region, such as the Nag Hammadi and many other scriptures, to pass down to their families, no, they hid them from the Romans that were hunting them for nefarious purposes that ultimately became the Roman Catholic Church and all of it's 40,000 branches(Spiritual Letters were never meant to be read by the natural man because the interpretation of the intellect is absolute foolishness). I've heard there is no evidence to support this, but I say the evidence absolutely points to this being the truth far more than the "supposed eyewitness" accounts generations after the "supposed" events of the Gospels are believed to have taken place. Let's put the Gospel of Luke to the test, shall we? Scholars tell us The Gospel of Luke was "MOST LIKELY" written around or after the year 70 AD(same year as the Siege of Jerusalem), thirty seven years after Jesus is said to have ministered. To hear Luke, a Physician tell it, he was an eyewitness not only to the birth and entire life of Jesus, but also the foretelling of the birth of Jesus to Mary, which began his lifelong following and recording of the life and ministry of Jesus. How old was Luke at the time of the supposed birth of Jesus? We can't possibly know, but let's do as Scholars do and give MOST LIKELIES or POSSIBILITIES. Being a Physician, he must have certainly not been a child or a teenager. His age would have easily been 25+ years, and no doubt older, but for argument sake, let's say he was just 20 years old. Now, how long was it between witnessing the Foretelling and Witnessing the Birth? Again, who knows, but again, for arguments sake, let's say 1 year. So, Luke is now at least 21 years old at the time of the birth of Jesus. 12 years later, Luke, at the age of at least 33 years, gives us another eyewitness account, this time of Jesus conversing with doctors. The next eyewitness account comes 17 years later in the 15th year of the Reign of Tiberius Caesar in the year 29, making Jesus 29 years old, and Luke 50 years old. He then follows Jesus the next 3 years to the year 32, making him 53 years old, and Jesus 32 years old, not 33. Once again, we are told the Gospel of Luke was "POSSIBLY" written in the year 70 AD, with many scholars believing it was written around 80-90 AD, making Luke 91 years old at the very least when writing his eyewitness testimony. According to Biblical and Historical Scholars, Luke died at the age 84 years of age in the Greek city of Thebes between the years 84 and 100. Being at least 21 years old when Jesus is supposed to have been born, in the year 84 he would have been at least 105 years old, and 121 years old in the year 100. Maybe Luke did not witness any of it until the year 29 AD and the foretelling is just conjecture, and if the foretelling is conjecture, why should we believe the rest? As it is so easily proven through Biblical and Historical Scholars Possibilities and the Complete Absence of Any Kind of Evidence that would suggest the Gospel of Luke is really an eyewitness account, are any of the Gospels true eyewitness accounts? If we are using Intellectual Context we must say No, they are absolutely not eyewitness accounts. The next question, since it seems we aren't apparently meant to interpret the Gospels in a Literal, Eyewitness, or Historical Sense, in what way should we? Well, the Bible tells us how to do it, and that if we aren't doing it in this way we are following a false doctrine: Corinthians 2:14 "But the natural(intellectual/material/flesh) man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are Spiritually Discerned." The True Trinity of the Infinite, Omnipresent, All-Encompassing Life we call God is told in the very first sentence for those who are able to Discern it: God = Infinite, Incorporeal, Omnipresent Spirit. God Consciousness. Father. All-Encompassing. DIVINE WILL. Heaven = Individualized God Consciousness. Mother. Son. SOUL Consciousness. DIVINE MANIFESTATION(be perfect as your father in heaven is perfect). Earth = DIVINE DEMONSTRATION(image) of Activity of Truth about God Infinite Entertained by Soul Consciousness.
Wrong. Jesus parents were married and didn't have sex until after He was born see Matthew 1:24-25. Read Genesis 2:22-24 the foundation of marriage reaffirmed by Jesus in Matthew 19 and Mark 10. Adam said to Eve this is flesh of my flesh and bone of my bone. Sex is nowhere mentioned in this passage. Malachi 2:14 says she is thy wife by COVENANT not sex. Read Hebrews 13:4 it says marriage is honorable but God will judge fornicators and adulters. Obviously fornication and adultery are not marriage.
@@revivalnow333Yeah the Christian God raped her before her husband husband got any. Which is weird, cause even back then people had sex after marriage. I also don't understand the three wise men, where did they come from? How did they know to bring gifts? Was she having sex with them and they didn't know who the father was? Imagine that poor kid, talk about having a God complex!
You need s 5minute video on this? To hear your own voices? The answer to your question is yes. The judeo christian tradition permeates all European and USA laws.
That claim about the state constitutions is a lie. For example; (from the Pennsylvania state All men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their own consciences no man can of right be compelled to attend, erect or support any place of worship, or to maintain any ministry against his consent; no human authority can, in any case whatever, control or interfere with the rights of conscience, and no preference shall ever be given by law to any religious establishments or modes of worship. § 4. Religion. No person who acknowledges the being of a God and a future state of rewards and punishments shall, on account of his religious sentiments, be disqualified to hold any office or place of trust or profit under this Commonwealth. In other words… the exact opposite of what is being claimed. That BELIEVERS would not be denied a position in government just because of their beliefs. Because the constitution explicitly states would not be “disqualified” from office because of being religious. That’s turned out to be a huge mistake. Because humans that sink their very existence into mysticism should not be voting on or making decisions that affect SECULAR governance !! They’ve already demonstrated they don’t have any sincere link to the real world and therefore are not qualified to make decisions on governance.
@@odious5317 Most of the evidence he uttered is easily debunked pseudo-history and to answer your question: yes, this is about the country's founding - Thomas Jefferson was a founding father, he was one of the people actively involved in the founding itself, so I'd definitely take his words over Charlie's any day
@@LilySage-mf7uf Pseudo-history, what a claim. Prove that anything Charlie said is false. There was contention & compromise between the founders. Obviously there are going to be contradictory statements made by them.
@@LilySage-mf7uf: Okay then, another founding father to counter that. "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” - John Adams, Letter from John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798.
As usual charlie kirk has a 3rd grade level of history. He's just regurgitating some right wing talking points...I'm a Christian and can't stand TPUSA faith...free speech but kirk doesn't speak for me.
Hey Charlie thanks for glossing over how 12 or the 13 original states discriminated against Catholics but at least you did mention it. Most citizens (even Catholic) have no idea how Protestants (protesters against the Catholic Church) mistrusted and persecuted Catholics. I did notice that you quickly moved through this making me wonder if you perhaps aren't even a little embarrassed. As for myself I've lost count of how many Atheists, Muslims, Protestants, and other cults want to throw my Catholic history in my face but never want to talk about let alone acknowledge their faiths flawed leaders. Just saying. I would really enjoy you openly talk about your uninformed biases against the Catholic Church with someone like Trent Horn or Jimmy Akin. Thank you TPUSA for allowing me to vent.
There were less than 30k Catholics in the colonies during the Revolution and the vast majority of them were in Maryland. The colonists did fear the pope and Catholics because many of them were fleeing Catholic rule in Europe.
Hi. We cannot base a modern democracy on early iron age scriptures that accepted the existence of slavery. "All men are created equal" is at odds with slaves and free men "being equal in Christ", because they never were. No Christian slave-owner ever let his slave practice a different religion, that's why the Bible says "you and all your household will be saved" (Acts 16:30-33). It was taken for granted that slaves practiced their master's religion. The master could change his religion, but slaves had no choice. So (Gal 3:28) about "masters and slaves being equal in Christ" is just plain wrong. If a person doesn't have religious freedom he is not free at all. We're democratic now, stop trying to put new wine into old bottles. Cheers, P.R.
Jefferson's letter is awesome. The DBA letter is; We noticed you didn't say jc and our church can run the government... - boohoo. Don't mislead people, you quote Leviticus from the Levites but nothing from the christian writings... You did (or do) not understand the wall that separates (protects) you from a singular church running the government.
Leviticus is Christian. Christ says HE IS THE WORD. Anything Old or New Testament is of God. His Words. The Christians Never Contradict the Old Testament but confirm it. Jesus didn't come to destroy the Law. Reread
@@MarshaVoires Lev 15 You shall not render an unfair decision: do not favor the poor or the show deference to the rich: judge [what does jesus say about judgement?] your kinsman fairly. 16 Do not go about as a talebearer among [/deal basely with] your countrymen. The letter from the DBA does insist on instituting belief in jesus to which Jefferson replies... teasing the gentlemen and educating them. The two "laws" quoted by jesus, summarized by Hillel... the second is "that which is cruel to you do not do to your neighbor." Pretending to write a book when you didnt could be seen as misleading, a lie, and theft...
To bring it back to the subject of the video: Government is a necessary evil, "church" [a gathering of individuals for good] is a necessary "good"... they aren't compatible... hence why religious governments fail... you'll make the church a necessary evil or the government your church... and while governa ment = mind control in church can be good, in Government it is not...
So, if you truly believe that then you must believe that America is not for any non-Christians and that discrimination and bigotry for other religions are justified. I guess admitting your bigotry is something.
So.....Make America Godly Again❤
Charlie has a TON of great information out there. In my opinion, this is by far the most accurate to the point synopsis of our Christian heritage I have ever heard.
I love how proud cliffe and Stuart look
Thank you, Charlie!!✝️😃
Amen! Tell it Charlie! for such a time as this! Thank you
"You can not have liberty without a Christian population"... so true. "Where the Spirit of the Lord is there is freedom." -2 Corinthians 3:17
more like slavery to a fake god and the people who use it to lie to other people to create power and wealth for themselves.
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State.
Thomas Jefferson
Wow, was that just of the top of Kirk's head? Much respect to his intellect.
Amen
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed
thanks frankc, great response of course.
Hardly, just barely a statement of faith, even less of christian faith. To say that there is a creator is not exclusively protestant.
@@justsumname entitled liberal 😂
@@frankc-k3q who me?? Not hardly.
@@frankc-k3q I guess he understands that the statement isnt christian... like the DBA understood... then Jefferson replies...
Praise The Lord. May God be Glorified in America again. Honored and Worshipped as He should, as nd America be a great Nation under GOD.
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State.
Thomas Jefferson
Best answer I've ever heard on this subject.
Correcto,100%.Better than the Catholic Church,or the GOP
@@anthonycaruso8443what’s GOP? Sorry I’m autistic and I have adhd I’m not trying to sound dumb but I don’t know what that is
"IMAGINE IF YOU WILL???
55 members of the wealthy aristocracy, a majority of whom are lawyers, meet in secret proceedings, vowing to each other never to mention what transpires in their conference for 50 years. Also, remember, several members of this group owe substantial sums of money to the government which is in effect at that time.
They continue to meet for almost 4 months, without any known form of compensation, creating without the authority to do so a new form of government which ironically contains the provisions which completely absolve their large debts to the former government. In essence they create a government which clears them of millions of dollars of debt, all of which will be paid by others using the taxing schemes written into their new form of government.
When one of the members of the group proposes a Bill of Rights to protect the rights of the society which will operate under the new government, the motion is defeated by unanimous vote. The Rights of the Individual were determined to be the polar opposite of the goals of their new government.
This group ignored a written, formal plea from the Quakers of Philadelphia to do away with chattel slavery but welcomed the plea from the synagogue of Philadelphia to eliminate any oath to the Christian Faith in the federal and state governments which they promptly acceded to and wrote into their new document/government.
Ironically, many of the men who criminally wrote this new form of government would be elected to serve in this government of their own creation.
In the bizzaro world of Boobus Americanus, popular academia and Christian, Conservative America, everything these men did has been declared “inspired by god” and completely off limits for intelligent discussion or challenge.
AND FOLKS HAVE THE AUDACITY TO ASK: “HOW DID WE GET IN THIS MESS?” - Michael Gaddy
Wow. Good info. Thank you.
Perfect
It's so true! You can't have a liberal system without a Christian people!
Love it. They deleted this clip off tik tok. Tells you something!
Brilliantly said!
Amen amen
This guy is a genius
Bottom line, Psalm 9:17. We have now and will get the leaders we deserve. We all bear some guilt for the U.S.'s fall some just more than others. The blood of 65 million babies cries out and God hears.
Yes, and Amen on that, blood on our hands
I admire Charlie's God Given talent to remember and articulate and defend Our Lord And Saviour Jesus Christ. God Bless you all the days of your life.
Charlie better reread Leviticus.
Yes it was and we have to go back!
No, it wasn't.
Yes, it was and yes, we do! Get back to God again!
I would REALLY like to get a transcript of this!
You can get the Transcription by clicking "more" under the video then clicking "Transcription". I always have to try twice to get the Transcription to open.
Yes our country was founded on Christian principles. God placed this country here to accomplish his will for this world.
So wrong.
Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind.
John Adams
THESE FACTS OUGHT TO BE TAUGHT IN ALL PUBLIC SCHOOLS. GOD BLESSED CHARLIE KIRK WITH AN OUTSTANDING ABILITY TO ARTICULATE ARGUMENTS SO CLEARLY!
America has always been a secular Nation.
Charlie provides a good response, but this has to be said: what makes our society insane is, the govt no longer respects private property, as it did when the USA was started. private property is not upheld as the highest political moral principle anymore. "Christian" ... as Charlie talks about here, is nice and good, and will go a long way even if the govt does not respect private property. But "being christian" was not the focus of the Federal level documents, meaning, the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation and the Constitution/Bill of Rights. All four of those recognized that people can and do choose different religious beliefs -- and religious beliefs are greatly varied among large numbers of people! The ONE thing that would allow all different peoples with all different beliefs, to live together in a civilized manner, is the supreme sanctity and respect of private property. EVERYONE back then wanted these three things: life, liberty and their own pursuit of happiness, which if adhered, pursued, followed ... would naturally result in the acquisition of private property. Laws which protected private property from theft, molestation, destruction ... and govt enforcement of those laws and govt endorsement of self-defense of property ... are the common thing which will make society sane and civil and allow all peoples of all different faiths to pursue their faith and live it out as they deem appropriate and correct. It does me no harm for someone to tell me that there is one God or 10 gods, for neither of them either break my leg or picks my pocket. Our aliveness and our physical bodies are our FIRST property. Life is about parlying those two things into pursuit and acquisition of any other property as we deem desirable or necessary. The USA is insane because the govt has already gone communist by relentlessly attacking our property by criminalizing harmless, victimless behavior; taxing our gained property, and by attacking us for defending our bodies, our lives and our stuff. And.... by 'hijacking' non-govt things, turning them into "civil rights" or otherwise making non-govt things into a thing that the govt regulates, such as marriage, divorce and licensing of damn near everything. A lot of these bad changes started being a thing after they started allowing any and all women to vote. We should not be allowed to vote just because we are a certain gender. There needs to be more requirements than that, and, when the USA started, there were: you could only vote if you owned a business or some land ... because the govt back then was not inserted into our lives, the govt would only 'affect' only those two things. But now that the govt has been inserted into every aspect of our lives, thanks to the Nanny State, thanks to emotional voting...we let any moron vote. And we have a lot of political / civics morons today. Again, because of emotional voting.
I think Jefferson wrote that in 1802 but AMEN Kirk!!! YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY, INSANELY, PERFECTLY outspoken. I love this to the core!
The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter.
Thomas Jefferson
Charkie Kirk hasn't debated anyone about religion that knows what theyre talking about and i would love to see that. Debate matt dillahunty or aron rah, or that other guy on pangburn channel. I want to see it lol
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”
I think if it ever goes to the Supreme Court and text history and tradition standards are used in deciding this which is what they use for everything, I’ll bet any amount of money even the liberal judges will have no choice but to vote god back into government.
Give your life to CHRIST because it’s too late my dear brother
@ I don’t think so bro
He explained that if you listened to the video.
All due respect seems like a bunch of hocus pocus mumbo jumbo. I follow the federal constitution of the United States it’s very clear on religion in there. Part of the reason people immigrated here is for religious freedom including freedom not to practice religion. If you wanna be religious great keep it out of my government. John Adams and George Washington and the founding fathers were more worried about the two party system than a theocracy
No way it’s Charlie cliffe and Stuart this is the ultimate trio of Christianity
What are cliff and Stuart's last names please?
Common law was invented in Protestant England and in inherited by America
He is correct! Read The Ten Offenses by Pat Robertson!
Lol Pat Robertson is a loon
Is there a way to get a copy of this in print??
We have a Judeo Christian Heritage, as the basis of Chistianity are the old.testament.
Haha i totally forgot about the State constitutions.... didnt read any of them
The United States of America should have a foundation free from the influence of clergy.
George Washington
He is correct! Read The Ten Offenses by Pat Robertson! Amen!!!
Indeed it was! Gov Rod Blagokevich acknowledged this in interview w Tucker. We need to study all the Founders writings, not Just Madison, Jefferson, and Franklin who were the least Christian. Fisher Ames wrote the first Amendment. Back then "religion" meant "Christian denomination" not all religions. Separation of church and state meant Govt shall not establish a "Christian denomination" over another.
Read letters between Danbury Baptist Association and newly inaugurated Pres Jefferson, which has been misinterpreted.
James Madison drafted the first amendment and our Bill of Rights he is called "The Father of The Constitution." Ames contributed to the wording of it along with other people in congress, but he didn't explicitly write it. The establishment clause clearly states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" it didn't specify denominations or limit itself to Christianity it simply states religion. Madison once said: "Who does not see that the same authority which can establish Christianity, in exclusion of all other Religions, may establish with the same ease any particular sect of Christians, in exclusion of all other sects." Madison was arguing that if a government establishes Christianity as a state religion over others it will enventually lead to one specific denomination or one sect ruling. He knew that in order to have religious liberty for all, you must have a secular government. I don't think the Danbury Baptitst letters and Jefferson have been misinterpreted. In Jefferson's letter he said "I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church & State." The reason why the Danbury Baptists wrote to Jefferson in the first place is because their religious liberty was under attack in the state of Connecticut because of the state run congregationalist church. Jefferson wasn't just talking about the government interfering with religion he was also talking about religion interfering with the government. Jefferson was a Deist who not only cut out parts of The Bible that talked about Jesus' divinity. He also authored the Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom which states: “No man shall be compelled to frequent or support any religious worship, place, or ministry whatsoever, nor shall be enforced, restrained, molested, or burdened in his body or goods, nor shall otherwise suffer on account of his religious opinions or belief.” The Founding Fathers saw what happened in England with the Monarchy and the state run church which is why they went out of their way to distance themselves from them. They knew that once religion interfered with the government that it would lead to the corruption of both. Why is it that God, Jesus, and Christianity are not even mentioned in the constitution once. "The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."- The Treaty of Tripoli signed by John Adams.
The founding fathers clearly stated that they based our lawas on the Hebrew Scripture and Anglo-Saxon (English) Common Law. Common Law although it began in a pagan Europe by the time of the colonies had been shaped by several centuries into a thoroughly Christian system. So yes, the system was expressly built on Christian principles from Testaments Old and New.
No! Common law is the law of Rome.
@@larrybedouin2921 English Common Law was the the evolution of Anglo-Saxon Common law which was old Germanic customary and tribal law. This is common knowledge history - it had nothing to do with Rome. As the Anglo-Saxons in England were Christianized the Common Law took on a more explicitly Christian tuning not that the principles were that far off to begin with.
@lawrencejones4693
Wrong!
Why did you insert the word English before common law.
Common law says to take from the rich to give to the poor.
(But God calles it left)
The so called distribution of wealth is purely a Roman ideology, but they're not coming off with any of theirs.
Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind.
John Adams
No! It's from the philosophy and traditions of men.
Our country was founded on Religious Freedom ‼️ That also means freedom FROM Religion ‼️
Excellent. A chunk of the Declaration of Independence is almost verbatim from North Carolina's first Constitution which was written with the help of John Locke in the late 1600's. Locke WAS NOT A DEIST either. He was a devout theologian and philosopher. This means that the mention of God in the Declaration is not some deist god. It is THE GOD OF THE BIBLE who grants us our rights. 1A was in fact NOT about freedom from religion but freedom OF religion.
The declaration of Independence is merely a letter sent to the King of England advising of our Independence. It holds no weight in comparison to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature. . . . [In] the formation of the American governments . . . it will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of heaven. . . . These governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.
John Adams
A lot of this conversation misses the point by looking at the founders' words without considering the provenance of the founders' ideas.
Common law has deep historical and cultural roots. The form of it is basically old Anglo-Saxon law, but the spirit of it comes from the thousand years of heavy Christian influence. The founders' were just the inheritors of that tradition.
who got it from the Greeks.
The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature. . . . [In] the formation of the American governments . . . it will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of heaven. . . . These governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.
John Adams
The American concept of liberty is firmly rooted in Natural Law which is usually attributed to Christian philosopher John Locke
Locke, in essence, repackaged Thomas Aquinas treatise on Natural Law for a Protestant audience. Aquinas was a 13th century Franciscan priest. He was the first philosopher to define liberty, as opposed to freedom, and assert that liberty was God's intended state for mankind. Freedom is chaos whereas liberty is freedom from oppression. Aquinas recognized that human nature craved order and that for any system of order to be just it must be oriented to God's intention and in service of His creation.
It took the Protestant Reformation to force the paradigm shift that would allow Natural Law to be put into practice.
The idea that our officially secular government must also be vocally atheist is wrong. We are a nation with no official state religion, founded by deeply religious intellectuals.
Like Benjamin Franklin?
It is much to be lamented that a man of Franklin's general good character and great influence should have been an unbeliever in Christianity, and also have done as much as he did to make others unbelievers.
Benjamin Franklin
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Franklin was a deist.
Trying to wrap my mind around what exactly is fascism, especially when Charllie says he is not a fadcist, I would be concerned that the idrology he speaks of certainly is a form of fascism.
A, ‘It's our way or the highway’, mentality.
Unfortunately, the brilliant design of our Constitution was immediately misinterpreted fairly quickly. By design? Judging by the obvious confused state our nation is in, I’d say yes.
This ridiculous explanation by Charlie has been destroyed by Dan McClellan. This is a secular country under a secular constitution.
Rome established 753 BC
*Known as the Period of Kings 753 BC to 509 BC
*Polytheistic & Animistic Religious
*Dominated by Etruscans
Republic of Rome Established in 509 BC lasting until 27 BC
*Capitoline Triad Established in 509-507 BC and Became the Prominent Belief almost immediately
--The Capitoline Triad consisted of Three Gods: Jupiter, Juno, Minerva
*Household Shrine Worship became widespread
*Public Religious Ceremonies Began being Performed in Temples and Festivals
*The Incorporation of Foreign God's & Cult beliefs, i.e. Isis(egyptian)
*A Focus on Ancestral Worship(spirits) begins
*Ritual and Sacrifice begins
●1st Triumvirate Established in 60 BC - 53 BC consisting of:
Julius Caesar
Gnaeus Pompey Magnus
Marcus Licinius Crassus
*TRIUMVIR = Ruling Body of Three
●2nd Triumvirate Established in 43 BC - 32 BC consisting of:
Octavian
Marc Antony
Marcus Lepidus
*27 BC the Republic of Rome Ends, bringing in the Roman Empire(27 BC - 476 AD) with Octavian, also known as Augustus serving as Rome's First Emperor.
An entirely new form of Government always brings in or ultimately creates new forms of religious beliefs, and this is no Different with Rome when becoming an Empire in 27 BC as it was when becoming a Republic in 509 BC.
*325 AD the Christian Trinity is Established at the Council of Nicea, and taking it's official form in 380 AD by, you guessed it, a Triad of Saints:
St. Basil of Caesarea
St. Gregory of Nyssa
St. Gregory of Nazianzus
*Holy Trinity also called: The Nicene Creed
*Trinity = Three Ways of Being
*Father, Son, Holy Ghost
*The Life of Romans from the formation of the Capitoline Triad in 509 BC until mid-late in the 5th Century AD when Christianity replaced Capitoline Triad beliefs was based on some very important words:
'OMNE TRIUM PERFECTUM'
*Everything in Threes is Perfect
Or
*All Three Perfect
Romans, worshipping a Triad of Gods for 900+ years before Christianity appeared it would make sense to keep the TRIAD as part of any new creation story such as the beliefs of Roman Catholics and Christians in general.
1st century AD Rome was also one of the most carefully chronicled of the entire Roman Empire, and there are ZERO mentions of Jesus or Yeshua by any Roman, Greek, or Jew of the time Jesus was said to have ministered(Year 1 to 33). Scholars and Theologians will swoon about Tacitus "possibly" mentioning Jesus, yet forget to mention that Tacitus was born "Around" twenty or more years after the "accepted" ministry of Jesus.
There is not a single piece of evidence that exists which can prove or even point to the birth, life, ministry, and death of "jesus" from that time, medically, orally, artistically, or otherwise, and no proof exists to prove the Gospels were written before the 4th Century AD(the oldest complete new testament with Gospels in existence). Proof of Historical Truth NEVER dwells in Concepts, Possibilities, or Probabilities, but Possibilities are what you can expect when you get "Scholarly" or "Theological" understanding.
Scholars and Theologians both agree that the Gospels were "possibly" started to be written around the year 70 AD to 120ish AD by both Eyewitnesses and from Oral Traditions, but not a single iota of physical or oral evidence exists to support this, so it isn't even based in MOST LIKELIES.
***BONUS******************************
When Christianity was formed every major religious belief also had a Trinity, just as the Pagan Beliefs of the Religion of the Capitoline Triad Christianity Replaced was.
Egyptian = Life, Death, Rebirth
Vedic = Being, Consciousness, Bliss
Daoism = Passive, Active, Vital Energy
Buddhism = Dharmakaya, Sambhogakaya, Nirmanakaya
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Why were the Gospels believed to be written at least 25+ years to 100+ years after the ministry of jesus is supposed to have taken place? Does this make sense to even the most ignorant of intellects?
Christian Beliefs as currently practiced by 2,400,000,000 people were created by Roman Emperors and Leaders after hunting, imprisoning and executing those of the Awareness of God Omnipresence who wrote the Spiritual Letters found in the bible, then hundreds of years of fashioning its message to suit the church, right up to and beyond the Establishment of the Trinity in 325 AD after several hundred plus Bishops who couldn't agree on which of their versions of the Trinity was right, convened to agree upon the Trinity of the church as accepted today. The communities of these God Infinite, Omnipresent Aware beings that were spread out around the Roman Empire were destroyed by Romans after witnessing the Demonstration of God Infinite such as told in the story of Stephen. There are even a few stories of "converts" to this Infinite Awareness such as Paul and John who we are told were Beheaded by Rome for not entertaining anything less that the Omnipresence of God as all Activity. You know, If I speak of myself, I bear witness to a lie because I, of mine own self am nothing, can do nothing because it is the Father, which is my father and your father, that does the work!!!
The First Jewish-Roman War in 68 AD, and the Siege of Jerusalem in 70 AD were the perfect guises for the purpose of the execution, destruction, and theft of all things "Spiritual," to ultimately be used as a tool of religious control. These people(you can call them Mystics or Priests of God) did not hide these manuscripts that have been found in many caves in the region, such as the Nag Hammadi and many other scriptures, to pass down to their families, no, they hid them from the Romans that were hunting them for nefarious purposes that ultimately became the Roman Catholic Church and all of it's 40,000 branches(Spiritual Letters were never meant to be read by the natural man because the interpretation of the intellect is absolute foolishness). I've heard there is no evidence to support this, but I say the evidence absolutely points to this being the truth far more than the "supposed eyewitness" accounts generations after the "supposed" events of the Gospels are believed to have taken place.
Let's put the Gospel of Luke to the test, shall we?
Scholars tell us The Gospel of Luke was "MOST LIKELY" written around or after the year 70 AD(same year as the Siege of Jerusalem), thirty seven years after Jesus is said to have ministered. To hear Luke, a Physician tell it, he was an eyewitness not only to the birth and entire life of Jesus, but also the foretelling of the birth of Jesus to Mary, which began his lifelong following and recording of the life and ministry of Jesus. How old was Luke at the time of the supposed birth of Jesus? We can't possibly know, but let's do as Scholars do and give MOST LIKELIES or POSSIBILITIES. Being a Physician, he must have certainly not been a child or a teenager. His age would have easily been 25+ years, and no doubt older, but for argument sake, let's say he was just 20 years old. Now, how long was it between witnessing the Foretelling and Witnessing the Birth? Again, who knows, but again, for arguments sake, let's say 1 year. So, Luke is now at least 21 years old at the time of the birth of Jesus. 12 years later, Luke, at the age of at least 33 years, gives us another eyewitness account, this time of Jesus conversing with doctors. The next eyewitness account comes 17 years later in the 15th year of the Reign of Tiberius Caesar in the year 29, making Jesus 29 years old, and Luke 50 years old. He then follows Jesus the next 3 years to the year 32, making him 53 years old, and Jesus 32 years old, not 33. Once again, we are told the Gospel of Luke was "POSSIBLY" written in the year 70 AD, with many scholars believing it was written around 80-90 AD, making Luke 91 years old at the very least when writing his eyewitness testimony. According to Biblical and Historical Scholars, Luke died at the age 84 years of age in the Greek city of Thebes between the years 84 and 100. Being at least 21 years old when Jesus is supposed to have been born, in the year 84 he would have been at least 105 years old, and 121 years old in the year 100.
Maybe Luke did not witness any of it until the year 29 AD and the foretelling is just conjecture, and if the foretelling is conjecture, why should we believe the rest?
As it is so easily proven through Biblical and Historical Scholars Possibilities and the Complete Absence of Any Kind of Evidence that would suggest the Gospel of Luke is really an eyewitness account, are any of the Gospels true eyewitness accounts?
If we are using Intellectual Context we must say No, they are absolutely not eyewitness accounts. The next question, since it seems we aren't apparently meant to interpret the Gospels in a Literal, Eyewitness, or Historical Sense, in what way should we?
Well, the Bible tells us how to do it, and that if we aren't doing it in this way we are following a false doctrine:
Corinthians 2:14
"But the natural(intellectual/material/flesh) man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are Spiritually Discerned."
The True Trinity of the Infinite, Omnipresent, All-Encompassing Life we call God is told in the very first sentence for those who are able to Discern it:
God = Infinite, Incorporeal, Omnipresent Spirit. God Consciousness. Father. All-Encompassing. DIVINE WILL.
Heaven = Individualized God Consciousness. Mother. Son. SOUL Consciousness. DIVINE MANIFESTATION(be perfect as your father in heaven is perfect).
Earth = DIVINE DEMONSTRATION(image) of Activity of Truth about God Infinite Entertained by Soul Consciousness.
There was no marriage licence in the time of Jesus. If you had sex you were married. Call it what you will.
Wrong. Jesus parents were married and didn't have sex until after He was born see Matthew 1:24-25. Read Genesis 2:22-24 the foundation of marriage reaffirmed by Jesus in Matthew 19 and Mark 10. Adam said to Eve this is flesh of my flesh and bone of my bone. Sex is nowhere mentioned in this passage. Malachi 2:14 says she is thy wife by COVENANT not sex. Read Hebrews 13:4 it says marriage is honorable but God will judge fornicators and adulters. Obviously fornication and adultery are not marriage.
Wow, what an amazing answer… amen
@@revivalnow333Yeah the Christian God raped her before her husband husband got any. Which is weird, cause even back then people had sex after marriage. I also don't understand the three wise men, where did they come from? How did they know to bring gifts? Was she having sex with them and they didn't know who the father was? Imagine that poor kid, talk about having a God complex!
charlie is correct
Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
Thomas Jefferson
Let's say it is true. That doesn't mean we shouldn't correct that mistake.
What mistake?
@@SK-fp4ed
Obviously the mistake would be basing a country's values on Christianity.
@avishevin3353 This country was founded on Christian principals.
@@SK-fp4ed
No, it was not. It was founded on Enlightenment principles.
@avishevin3353 That is false. Most of our Founding Fathers were Christian.
You need s 5minute video on this? To hear your own voices?
The answer to your question is yes. The judeo christian tradition permeates all European and USA laws.
That claim about the state constitutions is a lie. For example; (from the Pennsylvania state All men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship
Almighty God according to the dictates of their own consciences no man can of right be compelled to attend, erect or support any place of worship, or to maintain any ministry against his consent; no human authority can, in any case whatever, control or interfere with the rights of conscience, and no preference shall ever be given by law to any religious establishments or modes of worship.
§ 4. Religion.
No person who acknowledges the being of a God and a future
state of rewards and punishments shall, on account of his religious sentiments, be disqualified to hold any office or place of trust or profit under this Commonwealth.
In other words… the exact opposite of what is being claimed. That BELIEVERS would not be denied a position in government just because of their beliefs. Because the constitution explicitly states would not be “disqualified” from office because of being religious.
That’s turned out to be a huge mistake. Because humans that sink their very existence into mysticism should not be voting on or making decisions that affect SECULAR governance !! They’ve already demonstrated they don’t have any sincere link to the real world and therefore are not qualified to make decisions on governance.
These qualifications changed over time.
*"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law"* - Thomas Jefferson
Really? You think one quote disproves the mountain of evidence Charlie uttered?
@@odious5317 Most of the evidence he uttered is easily debunked pseudo-history
and to answer your question: yes, this is about the country's founding - Thomas Jefferson was a founding father, he was one of the people actively involved in the founding itself, so I'd definitely take his words over Charlie's any day
@@LilySage-mf7uf
Pseudo-history, what a claim. Prove that anything Charlie said is false.
There was contention & compromise between the founders. Obviously there are going to be contradictory statements made by them.
The Ten Offenses by Pat Robertson! Might want to read this book
@@LilySage-mf7uf: Okay then, another founding father to counter that.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” - John Adams, Letter from John Adams to Massachusetts Militia, 11 October 1798.
As usual charlie kirk has a 3rd grade level of history. He's just regurgitating some right wing talking points...I'm a Christian and can't stand TPUSA faith...free speech but kirk doesn't speak for me.
Hey Charlie thanks for glossing over how 12 or the 13 original states discriminated against Catholics but at least you did mention it. Most citizens (even Catholic) have no idea how Protestants (protesters against the Catholic Church) mistrusted and persecuted Catholics. I did notice that you quickly moved through this making me wonder if you perhaps aren't even a little embarrassed. As for myself I've lost count of how many Atheists, Muslims, Protestants, and other cults want to throw my Catholic history in my face but never want to talk about let alone acknowledge their faiths flawed leaders. Just saying. I would really enjoy you openly talk about your uninformed biases against the Catholic Church with someone like Trent Horn or Jimmy Akin. Thank you TPUSA for allowing me to vent.
valid points; he glosses over catholics
Are you saying they did not have reason to distrust them?
There were less than 30k Catholics in the colonies during the Revolution and the vast majority of them were in Maryland. The colonists did fear the pope and Catholics because many of them were fleeing Catholic rule in Europe.
Hi. We cannot base a modern democracy on early iron age scriptures that accepted the existence of slavery. "All men are created equal" is at odds with slaves and free men "being equal in Christ", because they never were. No Christian slave-owner ever let his slave practice a different religion, that's why the Bible says "you and all your household will be saved" (Acts 16:30-33). It was taken for granted that slaves practiced their master's religion. The master could change his religion, but slaves had no choice. So (Gal 3:28) about "masters and slaves being equal in Christ" is just plain wrong. If a person doesn't have religious freedom he is not free at all. We're democratic now, stop trying to put new wine into old bottles. Cheers, P.R.
Jefferson's letter is awesome. The DBA letter is; We noticed you didn't say jc and our church can run the government... - boohoo. Don't mislead people, you quote Leviticus from the Levites but nothing from the christian writings... You did (or do) not understand the wall that separates (protects) you from a singular church running the government.
oh ya and deuteronomium Dvarim was the most quoted, not christian writings... thanks for your point...
Leviticus is Christian. Christ says HE IS THE WORD. Anything Old or New Testament is of God. His Words. The Christians Never Contradict the Old Testament but confirm it. Jesus didn't come to destroy the Law. Reread
@@MarshaVoires Lev 15 You shall not render an unfair decision: do not favor the poor or the show deference to the rich: judge [what does jesus say about judgement?] your kinsman fairly. 16 Do not go about as a talebearer among [/deal basely with] your countrymen.
The letter from the DBA does insist on instituting belief in jesus to which Jefferson replies... teasing the gentlemen and educating them.
The two "laws" quoted by jesus, summarized by Hillel... the second is "that which is cruel to you do not do to your neighbor." Pretending to write a book when you didnt could be seen as misleading, a lie, and theft...
also gossip [ a talebearer], but we could say that Christians interpret parts of Leviticus as being for all humans...
To bring it back to the subject of the video: Government is a necessary evil, "church" [a gathering of individuals for good] is a necessary "good"... they aren't compatible... hence why religious governments fail... you'll make the church a necessary evil or the government your church... and while governa ment = mind control in church can be good, in Government it is not...
So, if you truly believe that then you must believe that America is not for any non-Christians and that discrimination and bigotry for other religions are justified. I guess admitting your bigotry is something.
as well as non-believers.
Amen
No way it’s Charlie cliffe and Stuart this is the ultimate trio of Christianity