Where are the investors???? 7 years later...Why are there not MORE machines like this???Or at least develop this machine and make it even better and more efficient....
This is a great idea - getting and collecting all those loose plastics and taking care of business is what it's all about. Best of luck with the device
Lida del Monte I agree, even now when I look out of my window or step out of the front door am faced with someone who puts or throws stuff away making the place look untidy and it is this that leads to places being called a dump - people bring it on themselves and why they do that is a head-scratcher at best..for they could prevent it. I guess it takes something else to get a grip on the matter at hand. Dealing with the rubbish is one thing, turning it into a profit is another innovative way in using modern equipment and techniques that are available. The mentality of those around us is again, another matter entirely. People in general are a messy lot and they make it known by leaving their rubbish in other peoples view...some even use it to irritate another neighbour or get their back on the local council cleaning services...all in all its a good point to have machines to clean it up..but its the people themselves that need to be taught how to and not to..that is the hardest of all as it not learned at school though very well could be. Lets teach children today not to throw garbage around and make their future home clean on its own.
Actually I do very precisely, through them away in separate garbage and I used those plastic bag, otherwice I have to buy another plastic bag for it...I can't afford it and spend euros for that...I don't think so..I know what you mean, it also happened around here, well, at the moment I'm not doing my volunteer job, but I found out it's something to escaped my reality and I can't take it, to pleasing anyone..and facing my emotional problem giving me more space, at home more time and some very close friends of mine...so I think I stick with this, and my kids doing well...so far as now..Anyway, thank's with your reply, I enjoy reading it...yep kids must learn too!!Bernard Coldwell
Yes, the price of garbage today is a costly thing - its then no wonder why so many throw things where they fall - It's down to the people or the persons responsibility in the end. Is good to have children brought up with the right education surrounding and concerning the environment...Good for them.
I had been voluteerd work at school, I've done it for so many years I got paid small amount, but the last few month I got very sick, with my anti-depression, and indeed it takes really time, to get back in track, and to take seriously, sometimes you don't want to feel those shit, but their's no escape...'till you willing to giving up everything, but finally you've learn to make a choice at the moment taking low doses, 'till I'm ready not to take them anymore.. , i'm going off, I'm also deleting a lots of messages...terrible, but I have to stop now...thx Bernard Coldwell
Blest refer to 1 kWh as the "running cost"&their specs on this particular machine are that it can take up to 3hrs, depending on the type of plastic (the type also affects the amount of oil produced - the 1 liter example being CD cases only,apparently), for the recycle process. Suggesting energy use of 3 kwh per kg/liter. If we assume, as one commenter claims "1 liter of oil contains about 10kwh of energy" that means expending 3kWh to get 10kWh which would mean a net gain of 7 kWh of energy.
This man is doing heroic work. Since we're all on youtube here...do some independent research on the Great Pacific Garbage Patch and on other garbage gyres and plastic pollution. Learn how the plastic breaks down to outnumber algae in the oceans and so enters the entire food chain from the bottom up. This environmental crisis affects us all and we all can do our part to become a part of the solution. And hey, if this technology means less waste and oil-spills it's a sign of hope to me!
I don't know if it is just me, but thinking on this, actually we are increasing CO2 emissions with this. According to one of the UN CDM methodologies, plastic is inert when landfilled (meaning that it does not increase emissions, the carbon contained in plastic stays there). Therefore, the process of turning plastic into oil makes this carbon available once again. In the end of the day, when you turn plastic into oil to be burnt, in my opinion, it is the same as burning oil.
@sprinters1981 The point is that oil supply is limited, and we literally throw tons of it a day in the form of plastic (and inefficient means of transportation, among others). With ideas like this, we can use more available, easier to produce and less polluting sources of energy, like electricity and heat, to keep some of the oil we use in circulation, instead of so merrily throw it away in the oceans, or bury it under the soil.
Let’s just give him funds to generate more such machines so that we can clean our most precious environment which has been gifted to us by god. Don’t you think as a man we should take some steps to ban plastic and to convert the plastic again into crude oil and return it to the earth as it takes a lot of years to generate crude oil and we are wasting it by using plastic, I know there are some benefits of plastics also but it has more disadvantages as compared to its advantages, so let’s go and supply him and other persons like him to clean the environment. If it would be available to donate I would surely donate. God Bless You sir and people like him.🔥🔥
@MartjeB1 It said in the video. Let's say you wanted to power a kerosene lamp. While it does take energy to get the oil from the plastics into kerosene, it takes a lot more energy to: A) Drill for the oil in the middle east B) Refine the oil C) Ship the oil to, say, Japan where the film was produced D) Convert the oil to kerosene E) Ship the kerosene to a store F) Go to the store on your car/moped and back Tell me, which one saves more energy?
You’re underestimating how much energy it requires to make this technology. And the amount of electricity required to actually pull this off. And the efficiency of plastic burned to oil gained.
@hugolp Blest’s conversion technology uses a temperature controlling electric heater. The machines are able to process polyethylene, polystyrene and polypropylene (numbers 2-4) but not PET bottles (number 1). The result is a crude gas that can fuel things like generators, stoves and, when refined, can even be pumped into a car. One kilogram of plastic produces almost one litre of oil. To convert that amount takes about 1 kilowatt of electricity, which is approximately 20 cents. -Not my words.
A pressure cooker may not get to the temperatures hot enough though except to make the simplest hydrocarbon, which is methane as a gas. Best to see if these units are for sale.
I could find only old Blester 1 data on Japanese website though, it takes 3kw of electricity to process 0.7kg of plastic. And the Blester 1(current model is Be-h) cost about 3 million yen ($30,000) back then. Mr. Ito said it can reduce to about 500,000 yen if it gets mass produced.
The safety issue is also because of the pressure differential as oxygen via diffusion would want to enter the container and if the container is too thin metal it will crush and the carbons and hydrogens also would want to distribute themselves evenly outside, so something strong like a pressure cooker should do the trick.
It actually requires more energy to recycle plastic into other plastic as it does to make new plastic from petroleum, so it is not as efficient to recycle plastic at all. Blest doesn't say whether or not their invention will efficiently recylce plastic back into oil or if it requires as much energy to just refine more petroleum, but it is worth looking at it.
When one thinks in terms of energy storage, then this could be useful. If you are using a wind generator or solar to power the device, you are then using that power, to create a liquid that has a lot of energy that can be used when the other cleaner energy sources are not available. Currently one may be storing energy in batteries, but once they are full, this is another form to store the energy in.
Photovoltaic may not be an efficient source of heat, but parabolic reflector trench technology will easily create the needed temps. This technology heats oil up to 400-600F in order to boil water via a heat exchanger. The steam then powers a conventional turbine.
And since the answer to the question below is obviously 2) due to Lavoisier principles, we really need to answer: what is better (or less worse) - do change plastic into oil and the burn it (increasing CO2 on atmosphere and the greenhouse effect/global warming), or digging big holes to bury the plastic?
god bless you sir, creativity directed to conversion is ever the best thing. the power should see this and putting an hand on heart, if they have a heart...
This is already being done in Sweden in large scale, according to the Swedish wikipedia page on plastic recycling; 79% of all plastic is being recycled in Sweden.
It would be much better if we were to HELP this inventor somehow, give public support, rather than sitting back, bowing our heads to these corporate bullies, and and watching him burn. If we want things to change, stop being a bystander and demand change! He needs our support, not to bow our heads and let him be destroyed! Stop bowing your head and stand up for what you know is right!
Very clever and interesting invention. The problem I foresee is that it uses both electricity and water. My question would be how much water/electricity does it take to convert X amount of plastic back to fuel? How much byproduct is leftover?
I have a question or two, just what kind of toxic crap is left in the container after you're done making oil and how much energy does it take in the process. if it takes too much energy in the process the return is very small and the carbon used is raised considerably. if it takes 30 tons of plastic to make a half cup of oil I think it may need work. none of these issues are even mentioned.
I think the Filipino inventor Jaime Navarro who converted plastic into diesel kerosene or gas fuel last July 2012 got his idea thru u-tube video (uploaded by UNUChannel on Apr 13, 2009) of a Japanese CEO Blest, Akinori Ito.The Japanese company Blest has developed one of the smallest and safest plastic-to-oil conversion machines out on the market today.
@UNUChannel What are the specifications? Can I get a link? How much energy/power is required to produce 1L of oil - and how much energy is needed for the refining process. Is the refining process machine also included in this cost? If not what is the cost of the refinery machine.
How clean is the oil? What about all the inks used to print on the plastic, and the inevitable food scraps etc, what happens to all that? Is it really this simple?
You're missing the whole picture. By turning local plastics back into oil, you're reducing the amount of oil that needs to be transported from far away. You also reduce the need to explore and drill for increasingly more difficult to obtain oil.
If this really works and the amount of energy you need for the conversion is less than you can get out of the resulting oil, we are looking at one of the most needed inventions of our time. Why isn't everybody talking about it and isn't it mass produced and marketed all over the world? Where is the catch, which I dearly hop there isn't. Where can I buy one?
i'd be interested to know how much the device itself costs, and then how much energy it takes to heat the plastic sufficiently to regain the oil. Unfortunately, with times being as they are, people/companies aren't going to want to subscribe to this kind of technology if it isn't going to be profitable to them in some way.
We can buy these converters when they become a complete home heating and hot water boiler system using the Blest mixed oil fuel! At least, that's my impression!
if you look at the screen of his machine at 2:11, even if you can't read japanese you can see that the temperatures are in the high 300-low 400 degree celsius range. 400 degrees celsius is over 700 degrees fahrenheit. this machine requires a very high amount of energy (to produce all that heat), and that is probably the catch.
Great idea, but I wonder what happens after the plastic melts down... is there any left overs? Can we use 100% of the plastic? I wish more details were given in this video...
I really can't see where are we reducing emissions with this... And when we put into the account the electricity needed, it is actually increasing emissions...
For me, one question needs to be answered: the resulting OIL has more potential energy than what it took to be produced? 1) Yes: GREAT, let's study this and bring it to industrial scale 2) No: Ok, depending on the needed energy to produce (process efficiency), it might be an alternative for plastic recycling. Or in worst case, an academic experiment.
what is the efficiency of turning this plastic back into oil? how much energy do you have to put in to get a certain amount of energy back (in the form of oil)
@camlpg Believe it or not, converting plastic to oil does cost money. It takes energy which a city would have to pay for. Also, of course it is cheaper to just not refine plastic into oil and throw the plastic into a huge landfill. However, if you think about the long term costs of filling the earth and seas with plastic then the cost related to refining plastic seems miniscule.
@lizardizzle I think hes talking about transportation and processing costs of the oil from the middle east, out of the ground, to a truck, to a boat, to a truck, to a refinery, to a truck, to the station, as opposed as from your local neighborhood, to a plastic-oil conversion lab, to the gas station.
But while burning this fuel ,CO2 is also been produce But the idea is brilliant and revolutionary for prevent the plastic in the world. Great Idea. Well done Japan !
@Jiyuu89 It's true that it takes energy to convert the plastic into oil, but it also takes energy to convert crude into consumable oil or gas. Hence I believe the message he's trying to transmit is simply to recycle.
@llonnette There are many products made from recycled plastic that are *not* thrown away. The carbon content in this plastic does not end up in the atmosphere.
@TheMadmoey Where can people buy this? And also where can I find information on how much plastic will create one gallon of gas and if the gas this produces needs to be refined to put into a car? Thanks.. Does blest have a website?
@OZZl3 I don't think plastic is recycled back to oil in Sweden. They might re-use it, like with PET bottles, etc... Point is, oil supply is limited, with this idea you can actually get back some of it, and it happens to be that we do have a hell of a lot of plastic as garbage.
You can use the sun or the wind so you can also reduce co2 by using even a co2 collector with it. So you don't burn oil out of other countrys reduce waste and you will reduce co2 it's a good idea.
need to know more data about this machine, like input energy and stuff.. but like my physics teacher said: any machine that generates heat as the main purpose will consume a lot of energy, but will be very energy efficient. Also, 1kg of plastic for 1L of oil sounds quite optimal.
I believe there is an enormous area of the Pacific Ocean, which due to wind and tides that have corralled a huge mass of plastic that have been thrown into the sea. Whatever faults or drawbacks this invetion might have surely it could be used to clean up a vast area of the Pacific Ocean.
@npr386 If they can do this with plastic...it's only a matter of time before we can break down any oil-based product back to it's initial component parts. That includes all the plastic cell phones, tv and computer monitors...perhaps even tires and a majority of component car parts. This is not only a VERY WISE direction to go regarding resource reclaimation...it turns our landfills into literal oil reserves and could help sever America's dependence on foriegn oil...
@camlpg I think it would make sense for cities and towns to get the capability to convert plasttic to oil on a large scale, collect plastic for free (it's waste, after all, and they need as much as they can get), convert it to oil and sell it to oil companies. Win-win.
However, I totally understand your frustration with the plastic problem in Japan as I used to live there and yes, the packaging issue (and overall consumption actually) is astoundingly out of control. Regards.
This type setup could be made cheaply and efficient by having an insulated steel container, like a pressure cooker, above an induction hotplate so that all the heat originates in the container itself. That could easily be done in anybody's garage. If nothing else, take the oil to an auto parts store for recycling. Better though would be to have a GEET powered generator which would run on this oil without need for refinement.
@MartjeB1 Do keep in mind that it's not a 1 on 1 renewal of the source (for now). I do not know how much oil you need for 1kg of plastic but I guess you still lose some.
Here is the chemistry if not yet posted: CH4 (methane is the simpliest hydrocarbon, CnH2n+2 is the general formula) + 2 O2 (oxygen) = CO2 (carbon dioxide) + 2 H2O (water). When you heat the plastic in a container and underwater away from oxygen then it forms a hydrocarbon. When exposed to oxygen and heat it forms carbondioxide and water which are what are registered causing the problem as you have anoxic conditions, so you need living plants to fix the carbon dioxide with water and get O2 again.
@dkfried From what I understand the energy required to make one liter of oil is about one KW which in my municipality means about 10¢ per liter of oil. There is a residue that's intended to be burned and methane, ethane, propane and butane are also released but apparently broken down into carbon and water in a filter. Personally I would also like to reuse the butane and propane, but I think more details will come as this begins to take off, if it does.
where can i get one? or rather, where are they planning to be installed? it would probably make more sense to make massive ones for recycling (we already sort plastic out here in austria) - but it would also be nifty if there was one in every supermarket across the world!
Taken in account that electricity ist produced with around 40% to 50% max. the total eff. of the machine is around 70-90%. That's a good value for a recycling machine. But: You never get more out than You have put in, so 650kWh/l is absolutely impossible. Input: 5 kWh electr. - 1,5 kg plastic (at max 6-9kWh/kg) = 9-13,5kWh + 5kWh = 14-18,5kWh (+ primary energy for prod. of electr. about 5kWh) Output: 1l unpurified oil at a max. of 11kWh, more likely 8-10kWh
After we figured out to solve this problem, to get all plastic waste made into oil, we still have: advertising-brainwash, society, money and bankers, monetary system, poverty, greed, wars, pollution, scarsity, ... to deal with.
Some of you are being a bit too critical of a new technology, yeah it's not going to save the environment or reduce CO2 by some huge figure but it's turning garbage into something usable, that is the beauty of it. If employed large scale it would decrease dependence on foreign oil and decrease the need for massive landfills.
I would LOVE to have this in my truck and attach it to my auxiliary fuel tank. Would be a great thing to have if finding fuel would be a serious concern. Could use it to get to a safe point in case of disaster.
I wonder if this plastic back to oil system is already in use in many countries at a much larger industrial refinery scale. Except that we have no idea that some of the gasoline coming out of the pump is recycled from plastic. From an economic point it means that any city that has a recycling program could have a plastic to oil refinery ALL AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE!! So when you fill up at the pump and it contains partially plastic gas you are being double charged!!!!!!!
I thought plastic CAME from oil? It was a by-product of the creation process by which petroleum becomes gasoline / diesel / other petroleum products. How does it work to go backwards?
@thursdayfour I totally agree on that. But we should also not forget the "true cost" of solar cells: some people suggest that the energy and resources needed in the production process and transportation equals the amount of power they deliver in their lifetime. I know that's a bit on the radical side but there is no easy solution to the socio-ecological problems in our interdependent world.
@Jiyuu89 Have you watched the video? Ito-san's focus here is on educating people to make them conscious of the fact that plastic is made from a valuable resource and incinerating (or landfilling) it is totally mottainai (a waste).
@MartjeB1 I think he means you produce less Co2. If you dont convert it back then your getting all your oil from the middle east. If you can produce even a small amount in your own country then you have lessened the impact, even if it is just by a small amount.
@Jiyuu89 And meanwhile leaving the plastic to be incinerated, which not only generates emissions but means that instead of using the converted oil the end user would then purchase regular fuel, which as Ito-san points out in the video comes to Japan with a high ROEI + emissions footprint?
This video is over 6 years old. WHERE CAN WE BUY THESE CONVERTERS ALREADY
Where are the investors???? 7 years later...Why are there not MORE machines like this???Or at least develop this machine and make it even better and more efficient....
@NBA review we could produce gasoline in house, fantastic
@@gutmannjacob9262because it’s cheaper to pump fresh oil. That simple. This is very energy intensive
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This should be introduced to every country; great job.
This is a great idea - getting and collecting all those loose plastics and taking care of business is what it's all about. Best of luck with the device
+Bernard Coldwell...Recycling...that's very good idea, here in Europe we wasted too much..and even became polution in our environment...
Lida del Monte I agree, even now when I look out of my window or step out of the front door am faced with someone who puts or throws stuff away making the place look untidy and it is this that leads to places being called a dump - people bring it on themselves and why they do that is a head-scratcher at best..for they could prevent it. I guess it takes something else to get a grip on the matter at hand. Dealing with the rubbish is one thing, turning it into a profit is another innovative way in using modern equipment and techniques that are available. The mentality of those around us is again, another matter entirely. People in general are a messy lot and they make it known by leaving their rubbish in other peoples view...some even use it to irritate another neighbour or get their back on the local council cleaning services...all in all its a good point to have machines to clean it up..but its the people themselves that need to be taught how to and not to..that is the hardest of all as it not learned at school though very well could be. Lets teach children today not to throw garbage around and make their future home clean on its own.
Actually I do very precisely, through them away in separate garbage and I used those plastic bag, otherwice I have to buy another plastic bag for it...I can't afford it and spend euros for that...I don't think so..I know what you mean, it also happened around here, well, at the moment I'm not doing my volunteer job, but I found out it's something to escaped my reality and I can't take it, to pleasing anyone..and facing my emotional problem giving me more space, at home more time and some very close friends of mine...so I think I stick with this, and my kids doing well...so far as now..Anyway, thank's with your reply, I enjoy reading it...yep kids must learn too!!Bernard Coldwell
Yes, the price of garbage today is a costly thing - its then no wonder why so many throw things where they fall - It's down to the people or the persons responsibility in the end. Is good to have children brought up with the right education surrounding and concerning the environment...Good for them.
I had been voluteerd work at school, I've done it for so many years I got paid small amount, but the last few month I got very sick, with my anti-depression, and indeed it takes really time, to get back in track, and to take seriously, sometimes you don't want to feel those shit, but their's no escape...'till you willing to giving up everything, but finally you've learn to make a choice at the moment taking low doses, 'till I'm ready not to take them anymore.. , i'm going off, I'm also deleting a lots of messages...terrible, but I have to stop now...thx Bernard Coldwell
Blest refer to 1 kWh as the "running cost"&their specs on this particular machine are that it can take up to 3hrs, depending on the type of plastic (the type also affects the amount of oil produced - the 1 liter example being CD cases only,apparently), for the recycle process. Suggesting energy use of 3 kwh per kg/liter. If we assume, as one commenter claims "1 liter of oil contains about 10kwh of energy" that means expending 3kWh to get 10kWh which would mean a net gain of 7 kWh of energy.
This man is doing heroic work.
Since we're all on youtube here...do some independent research on the Great Pacific Garbage Patch and on other garbage gyres and plastic pollution. Learn how the plastic breaks down to outnumber algae in the oceans and so enters the entire food chain from the bottom up. This environmental crisis affects us all and we all can do our part to become a part of the solution. And hey, if this technology means less waste and oil-spills it's a sign of hope to me!
there is no stopping the use of oil, period, so ideas like this need to be explored to their fullest.
Amazing. God blessed this man. This is a great inovation.
Where is this technology now - given the current oil price rises - surely its time has come?
I don't know if it is just me, but thinking on this, actually we are increasing CO2 emissions with this. According to one of the UN CDM methodologies, plastic is inert when landfilled (meaning that it does not increase emissions, the carbon contained in plastic stays there). Therefore, the process of turning plastic into oil makes this carbon available once again. In the end of the day, when you turn plastic into oil to be burnt, in my opinion, it is the same as burning oil.
@sprinters1981 The point is that oil supply is limited, and we literally throw tons of it a day in the form of plastic (and inefficient means of transportation, among others).
With ideas like this, we can use more available, easier to produce and less polluting sources of energy, like electricity and heat, to keep some of the oil we use in circulation, instead of so merrily throw it away in the oceans, or bury it under the soil.
Let’s just give him funds to generate more such machines so that we can clean our most precious environment which has been gifted to us by god.
Don’t you think as a man we should take some steps to ban plastic and to convert the plastic again into crude oil and return it to the earth as it takes a lot of years to generate crude oil and we are wasting it by using plastic, I know there are some benefits of plastics also but it has more disadvantages as compared to its advantages, so let’s go and supply him and other persons like him to clean the environment. If it would be available to donate I would surely donate. God Bless You sir and people like him.🔥🔥
love this concept. I think every community or municipality worldwide should buy one of these machines..
@MartjeB1 It said in the video. Let's say you wanted to power a kerosene lamp. While it does take energy to get the oil from the plastics into kerosene, it takes a lot more energy to:
A) Drill for the oil in the middle east
B) Refine the oil
C) Ship the oil to, say, Japan where the film was produced
D) Convert the oil to kerosene
E) Ship the kerosene to a store
F) Go to the store on your car/moped and back
Tell me, which one saves more energy?
You’re underestimating how much energy it requires to make this technology. And the amount of electricity required to actually pull this off. And the efficiency of plastic burned to oil gained.
@hugolp Blest’s conversion technology uses a temperature controlling electric heater. The machines are able to process polyethylene, polystyrene and polypropylene (numbers 2-4) but not PET bottles (number 1). The result is a crude gas that can fuel things like generators, stoves and, when refined, can even be pumped into a car. One kilogram of plastic produces almost one litre of oil. To convert that amount takes about 1 kilowatt of electricity, which is approximately 20 cents.
-Not my words.
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A pressure cooker may not get to the temperatures hot enough though except to make the simplest hydrocarbon, which is methane as a gas. Best to see if these units are for sale.
So many questions, so few answers by the company. Makes you wonder...
I could find only old Blester 1 data on Japanese website though, it takes 3kw of electricity to process 0.7kg of plastic. And the Blester 1(current model is Be-h) cost about 3 million yen ($30,000) back then. Mr. Ito said it can reduce to about 500,000 yen if it gets mass produced.
The safety issue is also because of the pressure differential as oxygen via diffusion would want to enter the container and if the container is too thin metal it will crush and the carbons and hydrogens also would want to distribute themselves evenly outside, so something strong like a pressure cooker should do the trick.
It actually requires more energy to recycle plastic into other plastic as it does to make new plastic from petroleum, so it is not as efficient to recycle plastic at all. Blest doesn't say whether or not their invention will efficiently recylce plastic back into oil or if it requires as much energy to just refine more petroleum, but it is worth looking at it.
When one thinks in terms of energy storage, then this could be useful. If you are using a wind generator or solar to power the device, you are then using that power, to create a liquid that has a lot of energy that can be used when the other cleaner energy sources are not available. Currently one may be storing energy in batteries, but once they are full, this is another form to store the energy in.
Photovoltaic may not be an efficient source of heat, but parabolic reflector trench technology will easily create the needed temps. This technology heats oil up to 400-600F in order to boil water via a heat exchanger. The steam then powers a conventional turbine.
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And since the answer to the question below is obviously 2) due to Lavoisier principles, we really need to answer: what is better (or less worse) - do change plastic into oil and the burn it (increasing CO2 on atmosphere and the greenhouse effect/global warming), or digging big holes to bury the plastic?
god bless you sir, creativity directed to conversion is ever the best thing. the power should see this and putting an hand on heart, if they have a heart...
How can i buy this product? How much does it cost?
This is already being done in Sweden in large scale, according to the Swedish wikipedia page on plastic recycling; 79% of all plastic is being recycled in Sweden.
It would be much better if we were to HELP this inventor somehow, give public support, rather than sitting back, bowing our heads to these corporate bullies, and and watching him burn. If we want things to change, stop being a bystander and demand change! He needs our support, not to bow our heads and let him be destroyed! Stop bowing your head and stand up for what you know is right!
Very clever and interesting invention. The problem I foresee is that it uses both electricity and water. My question would be how much water/electricity does it take to convert X amount of plastic back to fuel? How much byproduct is leftover?
I have a question or two, just what kind of toxic crap is left in the container after you're done making oil and how much energy does it take in the process. if it takes too much energy in the process the return is very small and the carbon used is raised considerably. if it takes 30 tons of plastic to make a half cup of oil I think it may need work. none of these issues are even mentioned.
I think the Filipino inventor Jaime Navarro who converted plastic into diesel kerosene or gas fuel last July 2012 got his idea thru u-tube video (uploaded by UNUChannel on Apr 13, 2009) of a Japanese CEO Blest, Akinori Ito.The Japanese company Blest has developed one of the smallest and safest plastic-to-oil conversion machines out on the market today.
What type of catalyst use in plastic recycling?
@UNUChannel
What are the specifications?
Can I get a link?
How much energy/power is required to produce 1L of oil - and how much energy is needed for the refining process.
Is the refining process machine also included in this cost? If not what is the cost of the refinery machine.
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How clean is the oil? What about all the inks used to print on the plastic, and the inevitable food scraps etc, what happens to all that? Is it really this simple?
did someone answer this vital question?! adding, what would be the emissions from the machine itself? Residues from the plastic used?
@37fleetwood the efficency of this is not 30 tons to a half cup it is almost 1kg to 1liter
Can you get more energy from the oil you make than it takes to make the oil? If you can, this is a great way to recycle plastic!
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You're missing the whole picture. By turning local plastics back into oil, you're reducing the amount of oil that needs to be transported from far away. You also reduce the need to explore and drill for increasingly more difficult to obtain oil.
If this really works and the amount of energy you need for the conversion is less than you can get out of the resulting oil, we are looking at one of the most needed inventions of our time. Why isn't everybody talking about it and isn't it mass produced and marketed all over the world? Where is the catch, which I dearly hop there isn't. Where can I buy one?
i'd be interested to know how much the device itself costs, and then how much energy it takes to heat the plastic sufficiently to regain the oil. Unfortunately, with times being as they are, people/companies aren't going to want to subscribe to this kind of technology if it isn't going to be profitable to them in some way.
We can buy these converters when they become a complete home heating and hot water boiler system using the Blest mixed oil fuel! At least, that's my impression!
if you look at the screen of his machine at 2:11, even if you can't read japanese you can see that the temperatures are in the high 300-low 400 degree celsius range. 400 degrees celsius is over 700 degrees fahrenheit. this machine requires a very high amount of energy (to produce all that heat), and that is probably the catch.
It's amazing their culture is so advanced given their guttural language and inability to develop rudimentary eating utensils.
Great idea, but I wonder what happens after the plastic melts down... is there any left overs? Can we use 100% of the plastic? I wish more details were given in this video...
What powers the electricity to run this machine? Fossil fuels? How much power is used to generate how much fuel?
@AkromeStyle Recycling already is the best way to dispose the plastic and consumes less electricity...
And it IS more cost-effective...
I really can't see where are we reducing emissions with this... And when we put into the account the electricity needed, it is actually increasing emissions...
For me, one question needs to be answered: the resulting OIL has more potential energy than what it took to be produced?
1) Yes: GREAT, let's study this and bring it to industrial scale
2) No: Ok, depending on the needed energy to produce (process efficiency), it might be an alternative for plastic recycling. Or in worst case, an academic experiment.
what is the efficiency of turning this plastic back into oil? how much energy do you have to put in to get a certain amount of energy back (in the form of oil)
What about the electricity that is required to run the machine? How much CO2 does the production of that electricity release?
@camlpg Believe it or not, converting plastic to oil does cost money. It takes energy which a city would have to pay for.
Also, of course it is cheaper to just not refine plastic into oil and throw the plastic into a huge landfill. However, if you think about the long term costs of filling the earth and seas with plastic then the cost related to refining plastic seems miniscule.
I really LOVE the idea of this machine!!!
@lizardizzle I think hes talking about transportation and processing costs of the oil from the middle east, out of the ground, to a truck, to a boat, to a truck, to a refinery, to a truck, to the station, as opposed as from your local neighborhood, to a plastic-oil conversion lab, to the gas station.
It can't be long terme solution. But it's a response for today's environnemental challenges. It's a great idea!
But while burning this fuel ,CO2 is also been produce
But the idea is brilliant and revolutionary for prevent the plastic in the world.
Great Idea.
Well done Japan !
Very nice! One Major Difference: TRTN (310 Holdings) has a catalyst that makes the process MUCH more efficient.......z
@Jiyuu89 It's true that it takes energy to convert the plastic into oil, but it also takes energy to convert crude into consumable oil or gas. Hence I believe the message he's trying to transmit is simply to recycle.
I would like know how many energy the equipment spent to produce 1 l of oil?
@llonnette There are many products made from recycled plastic that are *not* thrown away. The carbon content in this plastic does not end up in the atmosphere.
@TheMadmoey Where can people buy this? And also where can I find information on how much plastic will create one gallon of gas and if the gas this produces needs to be refined to put into a car? Thanks.. Does blest have a website?
@OZZl3 I don't think plastic is recycled back to oil in Sweden. They might re-use it, like with PET bottles, etc... Point is, oil supply is limited, with this idea you can actually get back some of it, and it happens to be that we do have a hell of a lot of plastic as garbage.
@olekstom, It was made in April 2009 . . . Makes me wonder why there hasn't been more news about it, so it might not be 'all that' . . .
You can use the sun or the wind so you can also reduce co2 by using even a co2 collector with it. So you don't burn oil out of other countrys reduce waste and you will reduce co2 it's a good idea.
need to know more data about this machine, like input energy and stuff..
but like my physics teacher said: any machine that generates heat as the main purpose will consume a lot of energy, but will be very energy efficient.
Also, 1kg of plastic for 1L of oil sounds quite optimal.
I believe there is an enormous area of the Pacific Ocean, which due to wind and tides that have corralled a huge mass of plastic that have been thrown into the sea. Whatever faults or drawbacks this invetion might have surely it could be used to clean up a vast area of the Pacific Ocean.
Hi, this idea is already in fonction or in test ? Is a formular exist to help and develop this fantastic idea ? What about develop in europ ?
@npr386 If they can do this with plastic...it's only a matter of time before we can break down any oil-based product back to it's initial component parts. That includes all the plastic cell phones, tv and computer monitors...perhaps even tires and a majority of component car parts. This is not only a VERY WISE direction to go regarding resource reclaimation...it turns our landfills into literal oil reserves and could help sever America's dependence on foriegn oil...
@camlpg I think it would make sense for cities and towns to get the capability to convert plasttic to oil on a large scale, collect plastic for free (it's waste, after all, and they need as much as they can get), convert it to oil and sell it to oil companies. Win-win.
However, I totally understand your frustration with the plastic problem in Japan as I used to live there and yes, the packaging issue (and overall consumption actually) is astoundingly out of control.
Regards.
@crisolsan The machine currently costs around $9,500.00 to buy, but they’re hoping prices will fall over time.
This type setup could be made cheaply and efficient by having an insulated steel container, like a pressure cooker, above an induction hotplate so that all the heat originates in the container itself. That could easily be done in anybody's garage. If nothing else, take the oil to an auto parts store for recycling. Better though would be to have a GEET powered generator which would run on this oil without need for refinement.
@MartjeB1 Do keep in mind that it's not a 1 on 1 renewal of the source (for now). I do not know how much oil you need for 1kg of plastic but I guess you still lose some.
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Here is the chemistry if not yet posted: CH4 (methane is the simpliest hydrocarbon, CnH2n+2 is the general formula) + 2 O2 (oxygen) = CO2 (carbon dioxide) + 2 H2O (water). When you heat the plastic in a container and underwater away from oxygen then it forms a hydrocarbon. When exposed to oxygen and heat it forms carbondioxide and water which are what are registered causing the problem as you have anoxic conditions, so you need living plants to fix the carbon dioxide with water and get O2 again.
What about plastic bags like polythene
@dkfried From what I understand the energy required to make one liter of oil is about one KW which in my municipality means about 10¢ per liter of oil. There is a residue that's intended to be burned and methane, ethane, propane and butane are also released but apparently broken down into carbon and water in a filter. Personally I would also like to reuse the butane and propane, but I think more details will come as this begins to take off, if it does.
I'm curious after the plastic is melted and the gas is cooled by the water to for oil, is there another waste product other than the gas?
where can i get one? or rather, where are they planning to be installed? it would probably make more sense to make massive ones for recycling (we already sort plastic out here in austria) - but it would also be nifty if there was one in every supermarket across the world!
Taken in account that electricity ist produced with around 40% to 50% max. the total eff. of the machine is around 70-90%.
That's a good value for a recycling machine.
But: You never get more out than You have put in, so 650kWh/l is absolutely impossible.
Input: 5 kWh electr. - 1,5 kg plastic (at max 6-9kWh/kg) = 9-13,5kWh + 5kWh = 14-18,5kWh (+ primary energy for prod. of electr. about 5kWh)
Output: 1l unpurified oil at a max. of 11kWh, more likely 8-10kWh
@37fleetwood
it uses one kilowatt each hour.
does this need to be further refined to become usable in vehicles and other apareil? if so, whats needed?
After we figured out to solve this problem, to get all plastic waste made into oil, we still have: advertising-brainwash, society, money and bankers, monetary system, poverty, greed, wars, pollution, scarsity, ... to deal with.
I feel like this is a quick fix. What will we do with excess oil?
How much price this machine
@roryniland Not all power comes from Coal. Nuclear energy is pretty darn clean.
but what about the extra CO2 produced by the power stations to power the heating elements in this device?
Some of you are being a bit too critical of a new technology, yeah it's not going to save the environment or reduce CO2 by some huge figure but it's turning garbage into something usable, that is the beauty of it. If employed large scale it would decrease dependence on foreign oil and decrease the need for massive landfills.
Can someone tell me please how long it the process of transforming the plastic to oil?
I would LOVE to have this in my truck and attach it to my auxiliary fuel tank. Would be a great thing to have if finding fuel would be a serious concern. Could use it to get to a safe point in case of disaster.
I wonder if this plastic back to oil system is already in use in many countries at a much larger industrial refinery scale. Except that we have no idea that some of the gasoline coming out of the pump is recycled from plastic. From an economic point it means that any city that has a recycling program could have a plastic to oil refinery ALL AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE!! So when you fill up at the pump and it contains partially plastic gas you are being double charged!!!!!!!
I thought plastic CAME from oil? It was a by-product of the creation process by which petroleum becomes gasoline / diesel / other petroleum products. How does it work to go backwards?
@thursdayfour I totally agree on that. But we should also not forget the "true cost" of solar cells: some people suggest that the energy and resources needed in the production process and transportation equals the amount of power they deliver in their lifetime. I know that's a bit on the radical side but there is no easy solution to the socio-ecological problems in our interdependent world.
@Jiyuu89 Have you watched the video? Ito-san's focus here is on educating people to make them conscious of the fact that plastic is made from a valuable resource and incinerating (or landfilling) it is totally mottainai (a waste).
@ahikarilaser
actually that was for time circuits, engine was running on regular gasoline.
@MartjeB1 I think he means you produce less Co2. If you dont convert it back then your getting all your oil from the middle east. If you can produce even a small amount in your own country then you have lessened the impact, even if it is just by a small amount.
@Jiyuu89 And meanwhile leaving the plastic to be incinerated, which not only generates emissions but means that instead of using the converted oil the end user would then purchase regular fuel, which as Ito-san points out in the video comes to Japan with a high ROEI + emissions footprint?
Awesome machine. Somewhat cheap as well, but what's the energy consumption of the machine and how long does it take to make 1L. of oil ?