After giving constant feedback on the state of PVP, all you had prepared was a 3 min segment on a 30 min video on how you need two more months for a subpar nodewar change? While introducing more vertical progression? To use for what?
The cron grind will be much easier though because you don't need much silver for gear anymore. Use that silver for crons instead and it becomes exponentially easier
I love the guys in here pointing out crons can be bought from the blacksmith in every comment from people asking for alternative ways to get crons if they are brining in another cron sink..... yes you can buy crons at 3mil each take a pen debo attempt thats 11,600 crons per tap..... average silver of 1.2bil per hour that means its 29 hours of grinding for 1 attempt.... we 100% need an alternative way to get crons if they want to bring in cron sinks
Bro if crons would be droppable it would chanche nothing. You are just complaing how progession isnt fast enough for u. But I dont understand why. What happens when u are max geared? Right u quit the game because PvP isnt good right now and when u are done with maxing u are either done with the game or u go for treasure, but every hour u grind the treasure would feel worthless because u cant use the money. There is litarealy 0 reason for progressing fast right now. U can grind most spots in the game without nearly maxed gear and the few spots that need insane gear are Spots that are a copy and paste of 4 year old spots. Look at anyone who is gear maxed maybe a person who even got all Treasures. Most of them are bored and have nothing to do. In BDO the way is the goal speeding it up even furthere would just resoult in more players quitting. We need a balance of booth and i would say right now the progress is to boring and too fast. I am 715GS and i feel like i can do 99% of content. Why should i get the 56 more GS. I cant do anything with it and it will only increase my silver per hour by 5% and that silver has no use after i am done with maxing my gear. The main problem isnt that progress isnt fast enough! The main problem is that progress isnt fun anymore.
@@rinkyhime If you don't enjoy the progression, there's no point of eventually completing it. Just because it takes a long time doesn't make it satisfying. In your own excuse post, you've just explained the game is wasting the players time. There's no point in working hard to progress your character anymore. Your attitude is another reason the game is in the dumps.
@@rinkyhime Honestly the problem is just that its cancerously boring. There is neither tactic nor diversity to the progression. You just grind pure silver and then spend it on clicking once with crons every few days/weeks. THATS the problem. The game used to require you to actually use your brain a bit to progress successfully and you had to diversify your gameplay to aquire all the necessary ressources. Valencia was perfect design. The natural progression of the grindspots basically matched your gear progression. You grinded Gahaz to progress general gear with scrolls, you went cresent and basilisks to get rings and belts and eventually you went ahkman and hystria to progress for earrings/necklace (tho necklace was always poor design with none being readily aquirable outside of events). But this gameplay was GENUINLY locked behind progression. You could not skip most of these things, nor was the order vastly interchangable. Most of these enhanced things were not available on the central market either, or they were considerably more expensive to buy than it was difficult to enhance them. Also people actually played the class they enjoyed, rather than minmaxing by playing some grinder class on their tag. Progression actually felt meaningful and significantly impacted your performance in all gameplay regards. The brackets you reached actually mattered and the next milestone was always within reach while not feeling obsolete. The fear of devalueing the OLD like valencia did is what killed the game. In an ideal world this would just naturally be part of the game consistently shifting the goalpost forward and making the current pinnacle way easier to aquire. I litterally havent played the game in 3 years and im still only slightly behind the curve at 740gs. Why is a splendid alchemy stone still hard to aquire? Why isnt there ways to get shining or even levels beyond that yet? Why isnt there a completely new gear level yet where gearscores start going into the low thousands. Something that actually brings dynamic into the endgame. Gives players something to strive and compete for and feel like they can pull ahead. RN youre litterally just catching up 24/7, cause there is always someone thats basically all the way at the end. PEN origin gear really doesnt count here, cause the difference is completely insignificant and its all gated behind raw silver (or p2w) which is astronomically boring.
2:16 - New Node War changes, Seige winner can change NW rules for that territory.(Choose old NW or new NW) 11:37 - New Accessory "Karazad", follow gear enhancement not accessories (no break or degrade with Crons), 10 level of enhancement, can convert Deboreka to Karazad. TET Deboreka = PEN Karazad. PEN Deboreka = NOV Karazad. 16:00 - Karazad unlock new crystals slots, 1 for each. BSR,DR,EVA,AP,ACCU, Maybe more later on. Does not shatter on death. 18:12 - Crystallized Despair can be exchange for fail stacks 20:44 - New Monster Zones in Land of The Morning Light, Golden Pig Cave and Dokkebie Forest. 22:14 - Still working on the Hardcore servers. 22:25 - Dosa Awakening
@@rommelymas8100 I'm 8/20 into PEN Debo neck, I never have silver... as a matter of fact I don't know anyone who is sitting on silver they don't know what to do with or have no use for and still play BDO...
For the love of God, please remove crons and rethink your monetization strategy. Nobody wants that anymore! Just focus on selling cosmetics and adopt a subscription model like WoW or FF14. The grind for crons is something that everyone hates, literally nobody wants it.
@@vonmeier better than spending hundreds of dollars on outfits for crons, we already have 3 subs in the game so might as well unite into one and remove all or most p2w elements
@@darkvision4566 I know there are pros for sub and removing all the other stuff like real money Crons, VP, Kama Blessing etc. would be nice. But for me a monthly regular sub that locks the game behind a "paywall" that ticks even if I don't have time to play for days is not really appealing. I often just log in for the guild chat or running around, the "free" to play model for that is perfect. I'm fine with a "sub" that only depletes with the actual hours I spend in the game though, however that's not a too common option. I would also welcome removing the whole Cron system.
it wouldnt last as a sub, and f2p is more money tbf, u named the only 2 sub mmo cause one stupid old and other a known IP, both have cons too. and bdo better with PA then kaokao.
About the monster zones in morning light, I think it's more about, the fact that there's no reason to be in the area after everything is done without one, which lower quite a bit the value of having one of the manor in the area, as there is also no other reason to stay (apart from a few repeatable in nampo and dalbeol)
@@Lunatericful I'd argue that with current AP brackets it's not a top tier item at all the difference between pen and dec is smaller than the ap difference between two classes, such that a pen sovereign is more effective two brackets lower on a strong class than a dec sovereign is on an out of meta class... and I'm just talking about pvp if they want it tot be a top tier item, it NEEDS to outperform the gap so we can actually see how strong people are by their gear, not their class, I think this is very important for the game's health
To make this exactly clear: Nobody will be happy as long as new progression is determined solely by Cron Stones. Nobody will be happy as long as veterans with stockpiles of hundreds of outfits can complete new items day one. The new players get gear diffed even harder, and the veterans go right back to having nothing to do. You had such an easy solution in front of you for Sovereign weapons; just don't make the enhancement stones marketable. Time-gates aren't great either, but they're better than what you did. And now your solution to the deboreka grind is to just add another item to dump cron stones into and further increase the gear difference between veterans and new players? You've completely backed yourselves into a corner by making the central pillar of your monetization whales swiping for outfits to cron upgrade attempts. There is no path out without drastic change. The influence that cron stones have over the game needs to be scaled back dramatically.
@@threatenintool4940 TL it really good game but is P2WIN and with ncsoft everybody know P2WIN WILL BECOME more strong better go some game like GW2 SOMEthing good
@@threatenintool4940 I don't like TnL because I think the combat is garbage, but I really dislike the cron inflation and the fact I can't even save to just buy gear to avoid bad RNG.
@bc9866 well watch the dev video they changed things and keep in mind that now all the other spots make more money because they added value to the old accessories.
We need a new system for improving gear. Many players are quitting due to the grind for crons in Sovereign and Deboreka, especially since that gear isn’t usable in 99% of the game. Uncapped PvP is dead. Please consider making crons easier to grind or removing them altogether.
@HungQDang I'm shocked they are not deleting all the negative comments. Pa Dev Team is so out of touch with its own player base. They make comments like that.
They need to take a look at the older classes, many of them feel slow since that number of hits/DR and EVA rework patch. Also there are classes that have been weak for years and they refuse to improve them. I guarantee there will be 10 patches in a row of Dosa awakening buffs after he releases. Which is fine but the rest of the classes need to be looked at also. It’s crazy that we have 50 something class specs and PA only wants us to play 3 of them.
Players wanted different paths, different end game build and you give them one more thing to spend tons of crons. If using crons gonna be the only way of progress make them in game obtainable like caphras stones. Buff accuracy set till they can compete using debos. Bring Black Distortion set where we sacrifice DP for extra AP like the earring.
If using crons gonna be the only way of progress make them in game obtainable like caphras stones So maybe you never heard of that, but you can literally buy cron stones at a blacksmith. I know, CRAZY.
@@Rogu14 holy sh*t are you serious? I am so sorry for what I said. The game is perfect and players leaving the game are stupid. What I tried to say was we should get cron stones with daily missions, grinding, life skills etc. With daily in game methods. Just like saving caphras stones to level up gear, to gain 1 ap or dp we should be able to gather some cron stones that can give us maybe one or two extra weekly attemps on this new weapons and upcoming accessories.
@@Rogu14 very crazy, to think that crons cost the same as how much caphs was when they were at max po and barely had any in the market. yea super crazy😂
A new game released and is taking away players. Lets do a dev commentary, addressing recent issues with.. you guessed it MORE cronnable gear. Swipe swipe my lovely players. Then the standard oh new class flavor and here's 2 more circle grind zones. Oh oh and reminder we are ever slowly working on new content. Enjoy BDO players.
@@reinhard98 if BDO revenue got disturbed on that time. I do think their development plan will be delayed and after that it will be hard to attract players, veteran and new player. Unless they have backup plan if that happen.
Seen the accessory post on reddit, and of course the excitement is ruined cause they can't seem to figure out no one wants to do the cron grind anymore. I guess it's really over 😢
Delete Cron Stones from Cashshop now and we have a deal, otherwise BDO future rly looks bad this time... i never let a bad word about bdo but this dev talk is super cringe and that you loose your playerbase to that trashgame T&L is a joke... why dont hire some people from the western world and overthink everything again what you did last 2 years...
@@Lunatericful go and reach that end after hundreds of hours of your lifetime. Ill wait 2 years and play something else thats more fun than mindlessly grinding in circles and get it for free.
Hey PA wana know a cheap and easy way too get players to stay on your game and want to buy crons??, make PVP a complete alternative to grinding. Image if RBF,guild league and a uncapped AOS would net players 1-2 bill an hour if your winning a lot. Players would get to do uncapped PVP and have reason to want to advance their gear because it will net them more money and most of all PEOPLE WONT COMPLAIN ABOUT CONTENT! They will be too busy fighting each other having fun. You think the people that play COD and Fornite care about the PVE on those games??, they have fun combat systems that’s players are allowed to use to get reward while fighting other players. Fornite PVE mode died and the game took off, COD zombies about only 20% of the COD population actually plays or care to. BDO combat is amazing, people want to feel good when the beat other people and make amazing plays, they don’t feel good when they kill 10k mobs. I DONT KNOW IF YOU GUYS REALIZE THAT WE PLAY YOUR STRICTLY BECAUSE OF THE COMBAT. Your game is essential an oxymoron, a solo MMO, It’s too late to go full on PVE, if your banking on the few people that are trying to get max Gear only to hit more mobs, you really don’t know your community, PVP makes for more entertainment in game, twitch and UA-cam which gets your game more exposure. you can kill 10 birds with 1 stone if you make PVP profitable everyday and not for 30mins on weekdays and 1 hour on Saturday If anyone agrees please help me spread this message!
You have no right to say it is a "burden and a lot of development time" when you deliberately change something in the past that everybody love when it comes to the nw system. Now you're trying to put it back what it was... making us wait 2 months for those changes again.. Ps. Those new accessories are hella stupid. You could just add new passive of old existing accessories and slightly buffed them. Now instead of everybody chasing the same accessory and more cron to waste.. good job pa. ( still no OW PVP/DEC Changes )
Why they can't just bring the old good ways with grind able items like caphras to upgrade your gear instead of cron stones ? Wtf they are smoking omg. But nah they want us to spend cash for it, like wtf. Or at least bring back the old 2.000.000 cron stones price. Now even the new players will struggle since everything is going back high price for the yellow accessories. And the whole system is too complex for them, why you can't keep things simple ? It's like going backwards instead learning from their mistake. Talk to the community first, ask them what is our best interests ? Geez it can't be so hard.
for the add-on crystal slot for the accs, it would be a banger if we could personalise it a lot more and not be blocked by only those 4 kind of crystals, for example do it with taebaek, asadal which will lower the stats of the accessory but grand the possibilty to use the buff or do that with narcs or disto and trade like 2 ap for 4 dp (and vice versa) or somehting like that
Node wars still need more changes than just optional reversions (if that's what they mean). There are whole lists of problems for old and new node wars that at least need to be acknowledged.
so new acc up to level x with 100k crons needed for every one or what. this is sold here as a good way of new items, but its worse... and also why wont be anything sellable at late game. youll have full purple grade but cant get money
Its very cool but some fundamental points still need addressing. You need to address the NW stuff to be the old way for higher tiers for sure. And you need to check in and refurbish RBF, provide an outlet for uncapped pvp. Gear needs to be pvp relevant somewhere and for that you either need zones where it can be uncapped pvp or times when uncapped pvp can happen. Awak dosa my God. That looks GODLIKE.
Bro, you literally made Deborekas frustrating and mandatory, why would you add a set effect to them and add super high ap req on every grindspot? It's your fault...
Give us better and more consistent ways to acquire a MEANINGFUL AMOUNT OF CRON STONES! Adding them to grind zones like caphras at caphras rarity would be a great start! Adding getting a hundred or a couple hundred from world bosses/field bosses would be great as well!
You mention add-on crystals for accuracy (Dawn, turo, ominous, etc.), black spirit rage (tungrad), damage reduction (Cardy Guardian, Centaurus, Ocean Hazem, etc.), evasion (Sicil, etc.), but what about the other accessories with effects? Such as Vaha/Disto, where they give more AP in exchange for DP lost, the Taebaek and Asadal equipment skill effect, and the kamasylian bonus from narc earrings. Will these accessories be add-on crystals, too, whose stats are determined by the enhancement level? I.e., if I had a PEN Karazad and I turned my PEN Vaha/Disto to an add-on crystal, would that mean we could get two additional AP (PEN Vaha/Disto is 21 AP - PEN Deboreka Earring is 19 AP = 2 AP difference) with 5 DP lost? Same theory with Taebaek: if we melted a PEN Taebaek, would we get the crystal skill effect appropriate for that level?
Its cool we can make unquie builds now but whats the point if the theirs no open world PVP anymore and everything is caped, you guys have to do something to address open world PVP and gearcaps.
I hope thoses new zones farm will be in GROUP PLEASE ! LET'S GRIND BDO AS GROUP AS 2-3-4-5 members but not anymore alone !! Anyway thanks for thoses informations !
Players : We are TIRED of cron stons, STOP forcing us to use them PA : Here are new access for you to cron ston Players : We want good and meaningful PvP content PA : You can now chose the old Node war system but not for the two best region in the game and it's gonna take us 2 months to give it to you Players : We want new coop, dungeon, raids and interesting PvE content PA : NEW GRIND SPOT SOON TM Players : We want our gear upgrades to feel like we're making progress and not just 1 or 2 more AP PA : The new acc will have 1 or 2 more AP than V Debo
bdo always was a grinding game for more than 8 years, what's this shit with dungeons and raids ? go and and play world of warcraft bdo is not that type of game
PA please, just please listen before the game dies, just stop with the cron mania, pls, nobody wants to enhance another accessory with the garbage enhancement system we have today, if you're gonna replace debos then at least use something other than crons, just make it extremely low chance but it doesn't downgrade when you enhance but stop with the crons, people in my guild wants to quit after hearing about karazad, it's not fair to make people cash in for an item that is pretty much useless and nobody asked for, focus on game content and stop creating new items.
showed some cool stuff. crons are still annoying but im interested. love the look of Dosa Awakening. the fact that Dosa had english voice acting makes me hope that they can soon dub LoML2 :3
Just put a few more of value for hour for farming you know more drops, misions like the poty something slow but secure that give more motivation to spend time killing a billon of pigs
The new acc idea is interesting for ME ,but yes we need cron stones to enhance it right?, more crooonn griinnndd for mee :) . Oh yeah one more thing, i like the combat concept for Awaken Dosa, that was better than i expected 🔥.
If they only listened to feedback from bdo streamers that could literally make patch notes for them to just implement into the game our game would be back to life with 20 thousand people online...
Look I think dosa awakening is cool but they could've made it even better by having each element be from each of those bosses. Fire, bongwah, wood, bamboo soldiers etc. I do love the tiger but another class with what could've been. Node war changes are ok I guess but let's see how it's implemented and played out. Grinding spots with cool mechanics sounds good too. Overall ok but giving another accessories to resolve accessory problem is a meme at this point 😂
Annoncing what I suppose could be the crons needed for PEN to NOV: PEN --> HEX = 923 CRONS HEX --> HEP = 1732 CRONS HEP --> OCT = 2771 CRONS OCT --> NOV = 5427 CRONS.
can we make sausan and pirates good again ? like elvia or sometihng there trash is only 1k each and is less then 100 mil/hour = dead spot sadly since they are fun
What happens to current accessories set bonuses, such as Tungrad 5 piece - 200% rage or Deboreka piece 5 - All Ap +8 bonuses? Will these set bonuses be activated if all the crystal slots are filled with the correlated accessories?
Giving players to set the rule for nw where most castle are monopolize by the same group in most region. Yeah definitely not gonna abuse by them. 😂 Update TLDR : Buy more costume and turn them to crons.
There's NOTHING fair in combining low % enhancing with timegated materials, it would be similar as it is with t10 horses, people would have their gear months earlier or later without any possiblity to grind and overcome it, the total cashgrab it is right now is 100% better.
Cron on pvp modes man how to make pve only leave the game. Add to pve and pvp is the thing they can do but if they add that they need to balanced that because in 1 month you finished the game if you are lucky
What about PEN Tungrad accesories? Their value is 3 times more than crescent ring for example. After converting tungrad into a kazad i will get the same enhancement level as converting crescent ring?
yea idiots don't seem to understand that some of us don't want to dump an entire hour of silver into cron stones at the blacksmith. even if i earned 20 crons an hour plus the usual silver at a spot it would be worth it because you progress towards a cron goal indirectly.
The market is saved. Now add a valuable and motivated content, where we can use all this gear. Doing circles isn't a content!!! New class isn't a content!!! We need to have any motivation to log in the game and play 20h per week at least. For example party bosses is a good content, but its weekly. Guild league is a good content with decent rewards and fun, which needs improvement. Finally find the formula of value and content. What was a joke with RBF increasing reward from 10m to 50m? Are you stuck in 2018 or what? We grinding 1b per hour at least. And for rbf we need 20 min + buy elixirs, hello??? Dont do like that, never.
These are honestly excellent changes and I’m glad to see the direction things are heading here. Also this type of candid disclosure and conversation is incredibly important and greatly appreciated. I imagine the community will still find plenty of things to complain about, but to me this outline is a very positive direction for the game.
My main complaint about this is the lame excuse with soverings, they could easily do the same shit they did with accessories but with sovering weapons lol.
it is going to be the same thing, you still need crons, and you need silver to buy pen accessories, both of which you get from swiping, so I guarantee you unless they make Dec the same rates as Pen FG, DAY ONE you will see DEC karazad the exact same way you saw DEC sovs. It's not a mistake, they do it on purpose, they want you to spend money, this is a business.
@@doom8274 That's not my point, I was talking about the level of piece-rate trading, they had the option to do the same with sovereign weapons, and I know it's on purpose lol, it's all business and nothing was done with the faith of the heart, but it doesn't change the fact that apologizing for something planned is stupid, it would be better if they just ignored that shit and that's it.
ty for this update commentary if you deliver with quality as much as crimson desert looks in term of quality. i must say there is some good stuff in there. keep it up. haters gonna hate.
could not care less. we screamed about the new nws for 4 months now, you gave 0 interest. now you tell us we could get the old nws back IF the castle owner wants to in 2 months. too little too late, guilds are not coming back, players are not coming back.
back then me having fun when Node war use real gear, Siege war can take many War Hero and use real gear. not soo many people grind high AP spot grinder. a lot to running around to open the map, everyday go world boss to get gear.no pilot people, soo many sultan sell costume(best one) cuz costume desert online. most i play to grind to go high AP monster and pvp gear node war and siege, but yeah capped and no more very-very high like dangerous feeling zone to enter. use to party with friend to go high AP monster zone for fun. this game would be fun with friend while grinding everywhere.
To fix the gear progression issue - why not make deboreka be able to combine with other boss acce eg. Debo+ogre/laytenb will give debo+monsterAP, debo+tungrad=debo+bsr, etc.
안녕하세요 PA님, BDO를 정상 궤도에 올려놓기 위해 콘텐츠 제작자 피드백(Zeroden, Quendya 등)을 들어주세요. 그룹 보스는 올바른 방향으로 나아가는 큰 진전이었습니다. 이 그룹에 더 많은 pve 콘텐츠를 제공해주세요. 또한 게임의 죽어가는 PvP 장면을 다시 가져올 수 있도록 변경 사항을 구현하십시오. 감사합니다! LotMl로 가야 할 더 많은 콘텐츠와 이유를 알려주세요(더 많은 몬스터 존과 심지어 노드전쟁 가능성도 있습니다)
Little feedback on the "diversity": - Choosing between extra AP/Acc/DP etc. will never lead to diversity, as this will always result in a best combination (aka meta). - A preference is something that doesn't change the outcome, but the way it's delivered. For example, one could choose between +5% dmg or +5% attack speed. Both result in the same DPS long-term, but the feeling and the way one's fighting will change (less heavy attacks or more lighter ones). - BSR is a good direction for creating diversity, tho it's gotta be carefully balanced, so that going for more BSR isn't over- or under- powered. And in general: - Party Black Shrine is great! Please create more end-game PvE content like this! Also, why limit the times we can battle those bosses? As the best (imo) endgame content, it would be great if we could enjoy it more often than 1/week. Maybe with smaller rewards, but 1/day?
They aren't listening and don't understand the issue. The gear is hard to get. The reason to get the gear has to be so rewarding and fun that the difficulty is surmountable. Currently, getting the gear means basically nothing, functionally. You can't protect your grind spots with it because open world PvP was legislated into nonexistence. You can't do anything new in PvE with it because it doesn't fundamentally change how you grind, you just make 4% more per hour in order to earn something that gives you 2% more per hour. That's cookie clicker. That's a hamster wheel. There was no player uproar to people getting the sovereign weapons too quickly. It was like 1% of players whining. Veterans DO NOT CARE that some people grinded 200 hours in order to save up hundreds of billions of silver to hoard crons to be ready to enhance something after a new item comes out. That's called preparation, and it's fine. The problem is this: 1-Raising the itemization cap means you have to replace the gear you worked hard for 2-Replacing it takes 4x (or more) as long as the previous best in slot item - two pen blackstars + crons and crons/materials to enhance for the high level sovereign, massive cron and silver grind for debo 3-Spending 4x as long per slot when your entire BDO career culminated in the previous gear means you have to have REAL motivation to have the better gear 4-Being able to exert your will on a grind spot or world boss or settle arguments with other guilds in the open world is direct motivation and a very satisfying use of hundreds of hours of grinding to get more gear to compete with them and kill them 5-Open world full gear PvP essentially does not exist anymore, and there was no other pillar of motivation for 90% of players 6-With no motivation, you stop doing something. This is basic economics/incentive 7-Players who are not playing don't spend money on a game People can be in denial of it all they want but BDO was always, from the start, a dynamic and fast fighting game at its core. It was never a dungeon/raid group PvE game and PvE content wasn't driving people to play 1000 hours of mob grinding for better gear. Fighting other people is fun. Blowing up someone who is messing with your grind spot because you have 60 more gear score than them is fun. Sending out spies and rolling into an enemy guild's server for Garmoth because they killed your guildmate while he was grinding and killing them dozens of times is FUN. If you didn't have good gear, you didn't have much agency against other players. Now, you don't have agency because Karma is lost multiple times faster and can go 10x as negative and you can't declare war on a guild without them saying "yes please war with us" and consenting. People don't even bother, they hide in Marni or server swap. World feels dead, gear has no purpose, and there was no way to handle sovereign weapons and debo AP set bonuses that would have mattered in the absence of the PvP carrot.
My blood pressure went up listening to this
So you guys haven't listened to any feedback at all and are just throwing darts at the wall with a blindfold got it.
all i heard was buy more cron we dont care about what the players want
After giving constant feedback on the state of PVP, all you had prepared was a 3 min segment on a 30 min video on how you need two more months for a subpar nodewar change? While introducing more vertical progression? To use for what?
Sorry for making sovereign weapons a cron grind guys... also, here is a new cron grind! Enjoy!
Given how they said you get a click with each pen yellow grade accessories you melt, or essences you drop, crons aren't gonna be the problem imo
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The cron grind will be much easier though because you don't need much silver for gear anymore. Use that silver for crons instead and it becomes exponentially easier
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@@saffe67 Probably gonna be like old debo pities, like gazes from ash forest, or limbo seals currently for the droprate, maybe even harder
I love the guys in here pointing out crons can be bought from the blacksmith in every comment from people asking for alternative ways to get crons if they are brining in another cron sink..... yes you can buy crons at 3mil each take a pen debo attempt thats 11,600 crons per tap..... average silver of 1.2bil per hour that means its 29 hours of grinding for 1 attempt.... we 100% need an alternative way to get crons if they want to bring in cron sinks
@@bushrangers5162 just bring back the 2 mil price it will be 600 cron per hours instead 400 cron . BTW Cron Stone are near Real Job Paytime .
Bro if crons would be droppable it would chanche nothing. You are just complaing how progession isnt fast enough for u. But I dont understand why. What happens when u are max geared? Right u quit the game because PvP isnt good right now and when u are done with maxing u are either done with the game or u go for treasure, but every hour u grind the treasure would feel worthless because u cant use the money.
There is litarealy 0 reason for progressing fast right now. U can grind most spots in the game without nearly maxed gear and the few spots that need insane gear are Spots that are a copy and paste of 4 year old spots.
Look at anyone who is gear maxed maybe a person who even got all Treasures. Most of them are bored and have nothing to do. In BDO the way is the goal speeding it up even furthere would just resoult in more players quitting. We need a balance of booth and i would say right now the progress is to boring and too fast.
I am 715GS and i feel like i can do 99% of content. Why should i get the 56 more GS. I cant do anything with it and it will only increase my silver per hour by 5% and that silver has no use after i am done with maxing my gear.
The main problem isnt that progress isnt fast enough! The main problem is that progress isnt fun anymore.
@@rinkyhime wrong New Dehkia spot have 1300 AP Entry Cap , so even with your X Sovereign and Full V Deboreka you still lack in alot AP
@@rinkyhime If you don't enjoy the progression, there's no point of eventually completing it. Just because it takes a long time doesn't make it satisfying. In your own excuse post, you've just explained the game is wasting the players time. There's no point in working hard to progress your character anymore. Your attitude is another reason the game is in the dumps.
@@rinkyhime Honestly the problem is just that its cancerously boring. There is neither tactic nor diversity to the progression. You just grind pure silver and then spend it on clicking once with crons every few days/weeks. THATS the problem. The game used to require you to actually use your brain a bit to progress successfully and you had to diversify your gameplay to aquire all the necessary ressources. Valencia was perfect design. The natural progression of the grindspots basically matched your gear progression. You grinded Gahaz to progress general gear with scrolls, you went cresent and basilisks to get rings and belts and eventually you went ahkman and hystria to progress for earrings/necklace (tho necklace was always poor design with none being readily aquirable outside of events). But this gameplay was GENUINLY locked behind progression. You could not skip most of these things, nor was the order vastly interchangable. Most of these enhanced things were not available on the central market either, or they were considerably more expensive to buy than it was difficult to enhance them. Also people actually played the class they enjoyed, rather than minmaxing by playing some grinder class on their tag. Progression actually felt meaningful and significantly impacted your performance in all gameplay regards. The brackets you reached actually mattered and the next milestone was always within reach while not feeling obsolete. The fear of devalueing the OLD like valencia did is what killed the game. In an ideal world this would just naturally be part of the game consistently shifting the goalpost forward and making the current pinnacle way easier to aquire. I litterally havent played the game in 3 years and im still only slightly behind the curve at 740gs. Why is a splendid alchemy stone still hard to aquire? Why isnt there ways to get shining or even levels beyond that yet? Why isnt there a completely new gear level yet where gearscores start going into the low thousands. Something that actually brings dynamic into the endgame. Gives players something to strive and compete for and feel like they can pull ahead. RN youre litterally just catching up 24/7, cause there is always someone thats basically all the way at the end. PEN origin gear really doesnt count here, cause the difference is completely insignificant and its all gated behind raw silver (or p2w) which is astronomically boring.
2:16 - New Node War changes, Seige winner can change NW rules for that territory.(Choose old NW or new NW)
11:37 - New Accessory "Karazad", follow gear enhancement not accessories (no break or degrade with Crons), 10 level of enhancement, can convert Deboreka to Karazad. TET Deboreka = PEN Karazad. PEN Deboreka = NOV Karazad.
16:00 - Karazad unlock new crystals slots, 1 for each. BSR,DR,EVA,AP,ACCU, Maybe more later on. Does not shatter on death.
18:12 - Crystallized Despair can be exchange for fail stacks
20:44 - New Monster Zones in Land of The Morning Light, Golden Pig Cave and Dokkebie Forest.
22:14 - Still working on the Hardcore servers.
22:25 - Dosa Awakening
Tragedy
thank you
Crystallized Despair describes the news pretty well, this sadly means still only one end game build. Dead god, Sovereign, and Kara.
There is no "ETC" currently nor "AP" for the crystal slots on Karazad 16:25. Thank you for timestamps
PLEASE ADD MORE RELIABLE CRON SOURCE BESIDE PIT OF UNDYING!!!! ty :)
blacksmith has cron its act as burning mech of silver in the game because they buff how many silver you can get per hour
@@rommelymas8100 good job, you've discovered vendor cron 👍
pit of boring
@@rommelymas8100 I'm 8/20 into PEN Debo neck, I never have silver... as a matter of fact I don't know anyone who is sitting on silver they don't know what to do with or have no use for and still play BDO...
just buy them with real money, that's all this game boils down to, p2w slop
What we hear about devs: "we are listening the players base"
What is happening in reality: "we are listening our wallets are getting empty"
For the love of God, please remove crons and rethink your monetization strategy. Nobody wants that anymore! Just focus on selling cosmetics and adopt a subscription model like WoW or FF14. The grind for crons is something that everyone hates, literally nobody wants it.
Sub? Really?
@@vonmeier better than spending hundreds of dollars on outfits for crons, we already have 3 subs in the game so might as well unite into one and remove all or most p2w elements
@@darkvision4566 I know there are pros for sub and removing all the other stuff like real money Crons, VP, Kama Blessing etc. would be nice. But for me a monthly regular sub that locks the game behind a "paywall" that ticks even if I don't have time to play for days is not really appealing. I often just log in for the guild chat or running around, the "free" to play model for that is perfect. I'm fine with a "sub" that only depletes with the actual hours I spend in the game though, however that's not a too common option. I would also welcome removing the whole Cron system.
Pa is counting on the Chinese to spend all their money like they do with their mobile games.
it wouldnt last as a sub, and f2p is more money tbf, u named the only 2 sub mmo cause one stupid old and other a known IP, both have cons too. and bdo better with PA then kaokao.
About the monster zones in morning light, I think it's more about, the fact that there's no reason to be in the area after everything is done without one, which lower quite a bit the value of having one of the manor in the area, as there is also no other reason to stay (apart from a few repeatable in nampo and dalbeol)
who in their right mind is saying enhancing sov is easy to dec ?
soo out of touch with the player base is laughable
@@korndog61 they didnt say easy. they said easier than expected because people assumed DEC Sov will be as hard as PEN FG, which is 10 times harder.
They literally said it's too easy for a top tier item and it's true
@@Lunatericful I'd argue that with current AP brackets it's not a top tier item at all
the difference between pen and dec is smaller than the ap difference between two classes, such that a pen sovereign is more effective two brackets lower on a strong class than a dec sovereign is on an out of meta class... and I'm just talking about pvp
if they want it tot be a top tier item, it NEEDS to outperform the gap so we can actually see how strong people are by their gear, not their class, I think this is very important for the game's health
@@Jimmyisabot it is factually the very best item you can get so whatever you think is fine but it's not a fact in this case
To make this exactly clear: Nobody will be happy as long as new progression is determined solely by Cron Stones. Nobody will be happy as long as veterans with stockpiles of hundreds of outfits can complete new items day one. The new players get gear diffed even harder, and the veterans go right back to having nothing to do. You had such an easy solution in front of you for Sovereign weapons; just don't make the enhancement stones marketable. Time-gates aren't great either, but they're better than what you did. And now your solution to the deboreka grind is to just add another item to dump cron stones into and further increase the gear difference between veterans and new players? You've completely backed yourselves into a corner by making the central pillar of your monetization whales swiping for outfits to cron upgrade attempts. There is no path out without drastic change. The influence that cron stones have over the game needs to be scaled back dramatically.
They said the thing! They apologized again!
Cron Desert Offline
Hay, thank God TL came out you can play it it's free to play and very easy for you. Some people just can't focus can plan for the long term.
@@threatenintool4940 TL it really good game but is P2WIN and with ncsoft everybody know P2WIN WILL BECOME more strong better go some game like GW2 SOMEthing good
@@threatenintool4940 tl is more p2w what are you saying
@@threatenintool4940 I don't like TnL because I think the combat is garbage, but I really dislike the cron inflation and the fact I can't even save to just buy gear to avoid bad RNG.
@bc9866 well watch the dev video they changed things and keep in mind that now all the other spots make more money because they added value to the old accessories.
We need a new system for improving gear. Many players are quitting due to the grind for crons in Sovereign and Deboreka, especially since that gear isn’t usable in 99% of the game. Uncapped PvP is dead. Please consider making crons easier to grind or removing them altogether.
saying SOV weapons have helped the player base, when they have actually hindered the player base is insane.
and calling 1% ap gains that cost you years of grinding a "break through"
@HungQDang I'm shocked they are not deleting all the negative comments. Pa Dev Team is so out of touch with its own player base. They make comments like that.
They need to take a look at the older classes, many of them feel slow since that number of hits/DR and EVA rework patch. Also there are classes that have been weak for years and they refuse to improve them. I guarantee there will be 10 patches in a row of Dosa awakening buffs after he releases. Which is fine but the rest of the classes need to be looked at also. It’s crazy that we have 50 something class specs and PA only wants us to play 3 of them.
not to mention the tag system is outdated. why have so many classes when you can only grind on 2 at a time. ADD MORE TAG SLOTS PA!
Players wanted different paths, different end game build and you give them one more thing to spend tons of crons. If using crons gonna be the only way of progress make them in game obtainable like caphras stones. Buff accuracy set till they can compete using debos. Bring Black Distortion set where we sacrifice DP for extra AP like the earring.
If using crons gonna be the only way of progress make them in game obtainable like caphras stones
So maybe you never heard of that, but you can literally buy cron stones at a blacksmith. I know, CRAZY.
@@Rogu14 But it's way more expensive and silver grind is not as easy as it is. If, you're p2p it's good.
@@kiyoshi-rin2609all of us at SEA buy from blacksmith. Seems like u guys are just lazy
@@Rogu14 holy sh*t are you serious? I am so sorry for what I said. The game is perfect and players leaving the game are stupid.
What I tried to say was we should get cron stones with daily missions, grinding, life skills etc. With daily in game methods. Just like saving caphras stones to level up gear, to gain 1 ap or dp we should be able to gather some cron stones that can give us maybe one or two extra weekly attemps on this new weapons and upcoming accessories.
@@Rogu14 very crazy, to think that crons cost the same as how much caphs was when they were at max po and barely had any in the market.
yea super crazy😂
A new game released and is taking away players. Lets do a dev commentary, addressing recent issues with.. you guessed it MORE cronnable gear. Swipe swipe my lovely players.
Then the standard oh new class flavor and here's 2 more circle grind zones. Oh oh and reminder we are ever slowly working on new content.
Enjoy BDO players.
They are working at the winter region but they have that saved for calpheon ball
@@reinhard98 At this rate, there ain't gonna be anyone left when the ball comes around
@@CCGCastiel not really, what they are going to play ? throne and liberty? That game will die in the next few months
@@reinhard98 if BDO revenue got disturbed on that time. I do think their development plan will be delayed and after that it will be hard to attract players, veteran and new player. Unless they have backup plan if that happen.
@@blueiru7351 bdo will release in china this month, they have more than 1,1m players registered
Seen the accessory post on reddit, and of course the excitement is ruined cause they can't seem to figure out no one wants to do the cron grind anymore. I guess it's really over 😢
I am next to the edge of giving up after 7 years I can't believe they actually managed to get me to wanna quit 😅
They need to keep alive the cron market with something more "achievable" everyone who plays this game should know that by now.
Delete Cron Stones from Cashshop now and we have a deal, otherwise BDO future rly looks bad this time...
i never let a bad word about bdo but this dev talk is super cringe and that you loose your playerbase to that trashgame T&L is a joke...
why dont hire some people from the western world and overthink everything again what you did last 2 years...
Idk man, are you guys having fun enhancing your gears knowing that there will be no end to it?
There is an end though
@@Lunatericful go and reach that end after hundreds of hours of your lifetime. Ill wait 2 years and play something else thats more fun than mindlessly grinding in circles and get it for free.
@@hanspeter-fs4inNot to mention all the returning player rewards lmao
@@Lunatericfulyou’re delusional 😂
@@hanspeter-fs4in ok buddy
Hey PA wana know a cheap and easy way too get players to stay on your game and want to buy crons??, make PVP a complete alternative to grinding. Image if RBF,guild league and a uncapped AOS would net players 1-2 bill an hour if your winning a lot. Players would get to do uncapped PVP and have reason to want to advance their gear because it will net them more money and most of all PEOPLE WONT COMPLAIN ABOUT CONTENT! They will be too busy fighting each other having fun. You think the people that play COD and Fornite care about the PVE on those games??, they have fun combat systems that’s players are allowed to use to get reward while fighting other players. Fornite PVE mode died and the game took off, COD zombies about only 20% of the COD population actually plays or care to. BDO combat is amazing, people want to feel good when the beat other people and make amazing plays, they don’t feel good when they kill 10k mobs. I DONT KNOW IF YOU GUYS REALIZE THAT WE PLAY YOUR STRICTLY BECAUSE OF THE COMBAT. Your game is essential an oxymoron, a solo MMO, It’s too late to go full on PVE, if your banking on the few people that are trying to get max Gear only to hit more mobs, you really don’t know your community, PVP makes for more entertainment in game, twitch and UA-cam which gets your game more exposure. you can kill 10 birds with 1 stone if you make PVP profitable everyday and not for 30mins on weekdays and 1 hour on Saturday
If anyone agrees please help me spread this message!
Yes please
this has been begged for by the community for years :(
Been asking pvp profitability since 2019
Nah more grind, im done…
Increasing the demand for crons = cash for PA. Welcome to the NEVERENDING GRIND ERA.
You have no right to say it is a "burden and a lot of development time" when you deliberately change something in the past that everybody love when it comes to the nw system. Now you're trying to put it back what it was... making us wait 2 months for those changes again..
Ps. Those new accessories are hella stupid. You could just add new passive of old existing accessories and slightly buffed them. Now instead of everybody chasing the same accessory and more cron to waste.. good job pa.
( still no OW PVP/DEC Changes )
Why they can't just bring the old good ways with grind able items like caphras to upgrade your gear instead of cron stones ? Wtf they are smoking omg. But nah they want us to spend cash for it, like wtf. Or at least bring back the old 2.000.000 cron stones price. Now even the new players will struggle since everything is going back high price for the yellow accessories. And the whole system is too complex for them, why you can't keep things simple ? It's like going backwards instead learning from their mistake. Talk to the community first, ask them what is our best interests ? Geez it can't be so hard.
They want cash profit. Thats the problem
@@michaeldiy1510 Why they not make good outfit? only want ppl for extract to cron?
you let us struggle for10 months with the new nodewar and then ask us to wait 2 more months that's 1 year wasted
They are delusional brothers... literally they have no ideea what to properly adress. It's game over.
The music for Dosa awakening reveal is banging. Awakening looks like fun too, good stuff!
PA listing to their player base in Narnia cause ent no way...
for the add-on crystal slot for the accs, it would be a banger if we could personalise it a lot more and not be blocked by only those 4 kind of crystals, for example do it with taebaek, asadal which will lower the stats of the accessory but grand the possibilty to use the buff or do that with narcs or disto and trade like 2 ap for 4 dp (and vice versa) or somehting like that
TLDR: Grind more gearlets!
pretty much
Node wars still need more changes than just optional reversions (if that's what they mean). There are whole lists of problems for old and new node wars that at least need to be acknowledged.
so new acc up to level x with 100k crons needed for every one or what. this is sold here as a good way of new items, but its worse... and also why wont be anything sellable at late game. youll have full purple grade but cant get money
Its very cool but some fundamental points still need addressing. You need to address the NW stuff to be the old way for higher tiers for sure. And you need to check in and refurbish RBF, provide an outlet for uncapped pvp. Gear needs to be pvp relevant somewhere and for that you either need zones where it can be uncapped pvp or times when uncapped pvp can happen.
Awak dosa my God. That looks GODLIKE.
Bro, you literally made Deborekas frustrating and mandatory, why would you add a set effect to them and add super high ap req on every grindspot? It's your fault...
If PEN -> NOV, TET should go to -> HEX
Where my comp for you destroying the distortion market
Give us better and more consistent ways to acquire a MEANINGFUL AMOUNT OF CRON STONES!
Adding them to grind zones like caphras at caphras rarity would be a great start!
Adding getting a hundred or a couple hundred from world bosses/field bosses would be great as well!
They seem to have turned to making users blame each other because they think they lose to users if they change the way the node war is conducted.
You mention add-on crystals for accuracy (Dawn, turo, ominous, etc.), black spirit rage (tungrad), damage reduction (Cardy Guardian, Centaurus, Ocean Hazem, etc.), evasion (Sicil, etc.), but what about the other accessories with effects? Such as Vaha/Disto, where they give more AP in exchange for DP lost, the Taebaek and Asadal equipment skill effect, and the kamasylian bonus from narc earrings. Will these accessories be add-on crystals, too, whose stats are determined by the enhancement level? I.e., if I had a PEN Karazad and I turned my PEN Vaha/Disto to an add-on crystal, would that mean we could get two additional AP (PEN Vaha/Disto is 21 AP - PEN Deboreka Earring is 19 AP = 2 AP difference) with 5 DP lost? Same theory with Taebaek: if we melted a PEN Taebaek, would we get the crystal skill effect appropriate for that level?
Its cool we can make unquie builds now but whats the point if the theirs no open world PVP anymore and everything is caped, you guys have to do something to address open world PVP and gearcaps.
have !!! a meaning full and Profitable pvp !!! and another Good life skill content !!! GDM!!!
I hope thoses new zones farm will be in GROUP PLEASE ! LET'S GRIND BDO AS GROUP AS 2-3-4-5 members but not anymore alone !!
Anyway thanks for thoses informations !
Go play something else if you want group content buddy.
@@Pora447 if you dont have friends to play with its oke, but there are others who actually have one at least...
@@Pora447Na this game deserve a coop gameplay for grind
@@lepromeneur8748we all know they should. But they just never do
@@lepromeneur8748 You already have that content buddy with boss blitz, and one high end grindspot for party group.
Players : We are TIRED of cron stons, STOP forcing us to use them
PA : Here are new access for you to cron ston
Players : We want good and meaningful PvP content
PA : You can now chose the old Node war system but not for the two best region in the game and it's gonna take us 2 months to give it to you
Players : We want new coop, dungeon, raids and interesting PvE content
PA : NEW GRIND SPOT SOON TM
Players : We want our gear upgrades to feel like we're making progress and not just 1 or 2 more AP
PA : The new acc will have 1 or 2 more AP than V Debo
bdo always was a grinding game for more than 8 years, what's this shit with dungeons and raids ? go and and play world of warcraft bdo is not that type of game
@@reinhard98 it wasn't a pve centric game either but the whiners made it go that direction
@@shy_guy_sean9437 the game always was pve centric, without doing pve you will be trash at pvp
@@reinhard98 pve was a means to an end pvp was the main goal
Pve doesn't even have an endgame right now, you move up ap brackets to rinse and repeat
good stuff....but still waiting for the promised balanced patch 🙃🙂😉😊
You guys need to share the music/song that was in the background when you showed Awakening Dosa- it was fireee!!!!!!!!!
will we be able to use jetina accessories to make karazad?
you cooked too much and you burnt it lil bro 😔
PA please, just please listen before the game dies, just stop with the cron mania, pls, nobody wants to enhance another accessory with the garbage enhancement system we have today, if you're gonna replace debos then at least use something other than crons, just make it extremely low chance but it doesn't downgrade when you enhance but stop with the crons, people in my guild wants to quit after hearing about karazad, it's not fair to make people cash in for an item that is pretty much useless and nobody asked for, focus on game content and stop creating new items.
showed some cool stuff. crons are still annoying but im interested. love the look of Dosa Awakening. the fact that Dosa had english voice acting makes me hope that they can soon dub LoML2 :3
Thank you Endlaive for the narration^^
Not only that you didn't listen at all. You also managed to make it even worse, when we tought it was impossible to do so.
Just put a few more of value for hour for farming you know more drops, misions like the poty something slow but secure that give more motivation to spend time killing a billon of pigs
I really hate cron so much aaaaaaa
Please decrease the cron price or make it grindable
Bring mounts, and improve mounts movement, fix desyncing in PvP and traversing
The new acc idea is interesting for ME ,but yes we need cron stones to enhance it right?, more crooonn griinnndd for mee :) .
Oh yeah one more thing, i like the combat concept for Awaken Dosa, that was better than i expected 🔥.
Cron Desert Online
Yayaya ok ok another wizard, where's my gunner? give me a concept, don't fake dementia, again...
If they only listened to feedback from bdo streamers that could literally make patch notes for them to just implement into the game our game would be back to life with 20 thousand people online...
Look I think dosa awakening is cool but they could've made it even better by having each element be from each of those bosses. Fire, bongwah, wood, bamboo soldiers etc. I do love the tiger but another class with what could've been. Node war changes are ok I guess but let's see how it's implemented and played out. Grinding spots with cool mechanics sounds good too. Overall ok but giving another accessories to resolve accessory problem is a meme at this point 😂
Nice upgrade im returner and i never enjoyed bdo like before
Annoncing what I suppose could be the crons needed for PEN to NOV:
PEN --> HEX = 923 CRONS
HEX --> HEP = 1732 CRONS
HEP --> OCT = 2771 CRONS
OCT --> NOV = 5427 CRONS.
can we make sausan and pirates good again ? like elvia or sometihng there trash is only 1k each and is less then 100 mil/hour = dead spot sadly since they are fun
thank you
when can we expect some lifeskill updates?
What happens to current accessories set bonuses, such as Tungrad 5 piece - 200% rage or Deboreka piece 5 - All Ap +8 bonuses? Will these set bonuses be activated if all the crystal slots are filled with the correlated accessories?
the new acc has +4ap each if i see correct. so 20 for 5 like 5debo set
Giving players to set the rule for nw where most castle are monopolize by the same group in most region. Yeah definitely not gonna abuse by them. 😂
Update TLDR : Buy more costume and turn them to crons.
Can you add cups to the Karazad....? or will cups now turn into irrelevant market sinks, where hundreds sit?
The long finally they did something good with awake dosa
There's NOTHING fair in combining low % enhancing with timegated materials, it would be similar as it is with t10 horses, people would have their gear months earlier or later without any possiblity to grind and overcome it, the total cashgrab it is right now is 100% better.
Dosa awakening looks so cooooool!!
add crons to pvp modes and the new loml spots, add battlegrounds, actual dungeons and raids. MAKE BDO GREAT AGAIN
Cron on pvp modes man how to make pve only leave the game. Add to pve and pvp is the thing they can do but if they add that they need to balanced that because in 1 month you finished the game if you are lucky
What about PEN Tungrad accesories? Their value is 3 times more than crescent ring for example. After converting tungrad into a kazad i will get the same enhancement level as converting crescent ring?
Probably need say 10 x "essence of dawn" to craft an accessory. Melting some yellows will give you 1 and others 2, 3,...etc
good idea on the asseccory changes. Good they also get rid of the Debo Set effect
Love this class thx a lot !!! love your game continue !
Gamba is progression, thats crazy business.Where the hell is Ranked AOS.
Hey, at least we don't need that much cron stones now! Wait... waaaaait a second!
Cron Stones need to drop from monsters. It's been FAR to long. We need at least a few/hr on top of our normal silver profits.
yea idiots don't seem to understand that some of us don't want to dump an entire hour of silver into cron stones at the blacksmith. even if i earned 20 crons an hour plus the usual silver at a spot it would be worth it because you progress towards a cron goal indirectly.
Guild war dec back !!!! Please
The market is saved. Now add a valuable and motivated content, where we can use all this gear. Doing circles isn't a content!!! New class isn't a content!!! We need to have any motivation to log in the game and play 20h per week at least.
For example party bosses is a good content, but its weekly. Guild league is a good content with decent rewards and fun, which needs improvement. Finally find the formula of value and content. What was a joke with RBF increasing reward from 10m to 50m? Are you stuck in 2018 or what? We grinding 1b per hour at least. And for rbf we need 20 min + buy elixirs, hello??? Dont do like that, never.
They made another elemental class ...another oneee
These are honestly excellent changes and I’m glad to see the direction things are heading here. Also this type of candid disclosure and conversation is incredibly important and greatly appreciated.
I imagine the community will still find plenty of things to complain about, but to me this outline is a very positive direction for the game.
Dungeons? Raids? Group content?
My main complaint about this is the lame excuse with soverings, they could easily do the same shit they did with accessories but with sovering weapons lol.
it is going to be the same thing, you still need crons, and you need silver to buy pen accessories, both of which you get from swiping, so I guarantee you unless they make Dec the same rates as Pen FG, DAY ONE you will see DEC karazad the exact same way you saw DEC sovs. It's not a mistake, they do it on purpose, they want you to spend money, this is a business.
@@doom8274 That's not my point, I was talking about the level of piece-rate trading, they had the option to do the same with sovereign weapons, and I know it's on purpose lol, it's all business and nothing was done with the faith of the heart, but it doesn't change the fact that apologizing for something planned is stupid, it would be better if they just ignored that shit and that's it.
Great content
Nice news, so excited waiting for this patch ♥
So what happens with PEN TUNGRAD accesories, they will lost a lot of value...... OMFG just making more "Cron needed" items to get more money..
really need to time stamp this stuff
ty for this update commentary if you deliver with quality as much as crimson desert looks in term of quality. i must say there is some good stuff in there. keep it up. haters gonna hate.
could not care less. we screamed about the new nws for 4 months now, you gave 0 interest. now you tell us we could get the old nws back IF the castle owner wants to in 2 months. too little too late, guilds are not coming back, players are not coming back.
back then me having fun when Node war use real gear, Siege war can take many War Hero and use real gear. not soo many people grind high AP spot grinder. a lot to running around to open the map, everyday go world boss to get gear.no pilot people, soo many sultan sell costume(best one) cuz costume desert online. most i play to grind to go high AP monster and pvp gear node war and siege, but yeah capped and no more very-very high like dangerous feeling zone to enter. use to party with friend to go high AP monster zone for fun. this game would be fun with friend while grinding everywhere.
is it enough tho?
not even close
To fix the gear progression issue - why not make deboreka be able to combine with other boss acce eg. Debo+ogre/laytenb will give debo+monsterAP, debo+tungrad=debo+bsr, etc.
To double down on this - why not make it only at both pen level. This way adventurers will have a goal for pen debos
안녕하세요 PA님, BDO를 정상 궤도에 올려놓기 위해 콘텐츠 제작자 피드백(Zeroden, Quendya 등)을 들어주세요. 그룹 보스는 올바른 방향으로 나아가는 큰 진전이었습니다. 이 그룹에 더 많은 pve 콘텐츠를 제공해주세요. 또한 게임의 죽어가는 PvP 장면을 다시 가져올 수 있도록 변경 사항을 구현하십시오. 감사합니다! LotMl로 가야 할 더 많은 콘텐츠와 이유를 알려주세요(더 많은 몬스터 존과 심지어 노드전쟁 가능성도 있습니다)
Both of those examples are people we absolutely should not listen to lol both of them are idiots
Little feedback on the "diversity":
- Choosing between extra AP/Acc/DP etc. will never lead to diversity, as this will always result in a best combination (aka meta).
- A preference is something that doesn't change the outcome, but the way it's delivered. For example, one could choose between +5% dmg or +5% attack speed. Both result in the same DPS long-term, but the feeling and the way one's fighting will change (less heavy attacks or more lighter ones).
- BSR is a good direction for creating diversity, tho it's gotta be carefully balanced, so that going for more BSR isn't over- or under- powered.
And in general:
- Party Black Shrine is great! Please create more end-game PvE content like this! Also, why limit the times we can battle those bosses? As the best (imo) endgame content, it would be great if we could enjoy it more often than 1/week. Maybe with smaller rewards, but 1/day?
They aren't listening and don't understand the issue.
The gear is hard to get. The reason to get the gear has to be so rewarding and fun that the difficulty is surmountable. Currently, getting the gear means basically nothing, functionally. You can't protect your grind spots with it because open world PvP was legislated into nonexistence. You can't do anything new in PvE with it because it doesn't fundamentally change how you grind, you just make 4% more per hour in order to earn something that gives you 2% more per hour. That's cookie clicker. That's a hamster wheel.
There was no player uproar to people getting the sovereign weapons too quickly. It was like 1% of players whining. Veterans DO NOT CARE that some people grinded 200 hours in order to save up hundreds of billions of silver to hoard crons to be ready to enhance something after a new item comes out. That's called preparation, and it's fine.
The problem is this:
1-Raising the itemization cap means you have to replace the gear you worked hard for
2-Replacing it takes 4x (or more) as long as the previous best in slot item - two pen blackstars + crons and crons/materials to enhance for the high level sovereign, massive cron and silver grind for debo
3-Spending 4x as long per slot when your entire BDO career culminated in the previous gear means you have to have REAL motivation to have the better gear
4-Being able to exert your will on a grind spot or world boss or settle arguments with other guilds in the open world is direct motivation and a very satisfying use of hundreds of hours of grinding to get more gear to compete with them and kill them
5-Open world full gear PvP essentially does not exist anymore, and there was no other pillar of motivation for 90% of players
6-With no motivation, you stop doing something. This is basic economics/incentive
7-Players who are not playing don't spend money on a game
People can be in denial of it all they want but BDO was always, from the start, a dynamic and fast fighting game at its core. It was never a dungeon/raid group PvE game and PvE content wasn't driving people to play 1000 hours of mob grinding for better gear. Fighting other people is fun. Blowing up someone who is messing with your grind spot because you have 60 more gear score than them is fun. Sending out spies and rolling into an enemy guild's server for Garmoth because they killed your guildmate while he was grinding and killing them dozens of times is FUN. If you didn't have good gear, you didn't have much agency against other players. Now, you don't have agency because Karma is lost multiple times faster and can go 10x as negative and you can't declare war on a guild without them saying "yes please war with us" and consenting. People don't even bother, they hide in Marni or server swap. World feels dead, gear has no purpose, and there was no way to handle sovereign weapons and debo AP set bonuses that would have mattered in the absence of the PvP carrot.
PA wants to continue milking the cow!
Making it all more complicated and cron-hungry so that veteran players wanna quit this game after all those years...
Pearl Abyss: "Yes"