PLS PLS PLS STOP CALLING FOR OTHER CLASSES THAT ARE PERFORMING WELL TO BE NERFED!!! its soo stupid and only shows your envy, lets instead call for all classes not perfuming like enh shamies to be buffed to that level!!!
If I queue randomly for keys I don't need my class, warrior, to be mediocrity, I need it to be as strong as shamans and paladins and all the other melee classes I compete with in order to get invited to keys. It's very easy to say that it's enough to be fine with warrior being decent, when in reality, in a random pugging environment, if your class is just decently mediocre, you won't get invited to keys.
that and warriors utility is non existant and blizzard is too focused on having every class doing the same exact dmg and not " hey paladins have a shit ton of utility and off healing lets make their dps less and warrior have almost no utility lets make their dmg a little bit higher"
@@baconSlayerX no, the blame is bliz, they designed the warrior to be crap damage WTF... Why would I brick my key for a sucky dps ???? And I main a warrior btw
@baconSlayerX This toxic playerbase wouldn't exist if blizzard actually focused on tackling the insane meta we have right now. I have played m+ since legion, I can absolutely say that this is the worst it's been Disc priest is 99% of healers at high end keys. Translation: if you don't play disc, you're not getting invited Prot paladins are also like 99% same thing Dps: gotta have that Aug baby Enh sham because they're broken beyond belief And a ret for insane aoe damage and more utility than some classes combined Or a dk for insane damage and amz or group ams or grip And then you have warrior, where our damage doesn't compare to an enh sham or ret pally, not really, and we have 2 stuns. Tl:dr toxicity will ALWAYS exist when a META exists. Blizzard is responsible for the meta and therefore responsible for the toxicity that is shown in the community.
15% while enh has 3 stuns, bloodlust, range interrupts and a "Oh shit button tank elemental" ... fair .... Maybe it's just time to stop playing warrior at this point our scaling sucks our dmg sucks and even in our niches we get nerfed into the ground ... Blizzard just doesn't give a fuck about balancing anymore
I did that and I am not touching my warrior unless total rework is done. Even if the damage is tuned to be comparable with other classes, the utility is still really bad and dps warrior is simply a really bad choice for M+.
It’s insane that you/we are happy with fury and we are still a solid 15% after ench. But then again we could be where fire is. Feels bad for you fire mages. And yeah hope they do something about enchantment, can’t be broken op again.
Fire definitely did well in other runs I did. Just a bad run for Azuna, he had lag issues and stuff and I know he can do more because he outdps'd me in some other dungeons. But yeah I never asked for Fury to be current Enhance level or meta - I just want it to feel strong enough so I'm not holding my team back
Enhance brings lust/self-res and way more group utility than fury does, sorry, but if you are playing fury and it still doesn't do more damage than enhance does, you are actually holding back your group by playing fury instead of enhance.
@@divios1 Fire actually doing pretty well. I watched this run on stream, Azuna was raging the entire time because of latency and messing up his combust rotations.
Hello crit, i havent played wow for a year and have been getting the irk to return, although after watching this video i've come to reason, and wont be returning, thank you critcake.
A little buff to roar, to OF and maybe the target cap and fury looks really good. Do you reckon your overall would have been higher with UF instead of AM?
yeah RA, sorry my phone somehow Auto corrected it to UF. Cant wait to see you try out RA, seems like a nice change to fury imho. Atleast compared to before.
arms is super weak, you are doing just a little more than tank dps.... I had to switch to fury and its much better than arms but no where close to other melee classes yet
arms is super weak, you are doing just a little more than tank dps.... I had to switch to fury and its much better than arms but no where close to other melee classes yet
Top is one of the good warrior dungeons cuz not that much big pulls. When you go into a key that has large pulls you literally do half the dmg of other uncapped specs. Warrior is in a very bad state.
I am sorry but Blizzard not wanting players to pick their final tree abilities, you know, the ones that should actually be powerful, is just bad game design.
Blizz wants player to pick our final points, they just don't know how to balance those so that it's worth to take, the sim is king and sees the truth, they really should create an internal tool for this on their side
Untill warrior dps does more damage than other classes or gains some new useful utility, we'll still be bottom of the barrel non-desirable class in M+ and it just makes me sad since M+ is really the only thing i play. Meh.
thanks for the video and feedback, sadly its still bad. we have so low utility that being behind utility class in dps make us a bad choice for pick up. like in s1 yeah you can still do high key with friend but in pick up it would be stupid to pick a fury when so many spec can do more dps and bring more. lets hope for more buff but if they continue then we will be to strong in raid and they will nerf us again x)
I love fury, but I really hope they buff ret, too. Ret doesn't come anywhere near as close as fury. Those are my 2 specs. Fury is looking good. Ret just needs to be there, too.
@@ugladdenThey're not solid, at all. Have you seen their damage on ptr? It's 30% lower than fury. They should have comparable damage. Lower, whatever, than fury, but not much lower to where no one would want to take them. Have all the util you want. If a class is doing tank damage. No one would take them.
@@ugladdenret does have utility. Problem is that Holy and Prot offers the same utility and more. Holy has raid cd and prot has Spellwarding and ofc Avenging Shield. Ret is also loosing their offhealing in 11.1 due to Healing Hands being nerfed. Ret might be in a better state than some off it competetors but we always compete with Holy and Prot. Even when they have not been meta, there has still been other more "valueable" classes to bring than ret. EDIT: Also have to say the zero utility on war is nonsens. You have Battle Shout, Rallying Cry, Shockwave and Spell Reflect. Just because it's not as desired as other class utilities in m+ doesn't mean they don't have any utility.
Someone at Blizzard mains an enha for sure, it's insane how they dodged nerfs all of S1 and still OP going into S2.
All classes deserve to be good, them especially
Bro never played bfa or df when the meta was the same the whole xpac
@@ChristianH-p9p they got nerfed every patch
PLS PLS PLS STOP CALLING FOR OTHER CLASSES THAT ARE PERFORMING WELL TO BE NERFED!!! its soo stupid and only shows your envy, lets instead call for all classes not perfuming like enh shamies to be buffed to that level!!!
@@americanmambi completely agree with this take. nerfing everyone to dumpster level just takes away from the joy of the game
If I queue randomly for keys I don't need my class, warrior, to be mediocrity, I need it to be as strong as shamans and paladins and all the other melee classes I compete with in order to get invited to keys. It's very easy to say that it's enough to be fine with warrior being decent, when in reality, in a random pugging environment, if your class is just decently mediocre, you won't get invited to keys.
Blame the toxic player base, not bliz
that and warriors utility is non existant and blizzard is too focused on having every class doing the same exact dmg and not " hey paladins have a shit ton of utility and off healing lets make their dps less and warrior have almost no utility lets make their dmg a little bit higher"
@@baconSlayerX no, the blame is bliz, they designed the warrior to be crap damage WTF... Why would I brick my key for a sucky dps ???? And I main a warrior btw
@@americanmambi and what is "crap" damage, 5-10% less than some other specs? Who gives a shit.
@baconSlayerX This toxic playerbase wouldn't exist if blizzard actually focused on tackling the insane meta we have right now.
I have played m+ since legion, I can absolutely say that this is the worst it's been
Disc priest is 99% of healers at high end keys. Translation: if you don't play disc, you're not getting invited
Prot paladins are also like 99% same thing
Dps: gotta have that Aug baby
Enh sham because they're broken beyond belief
And a ret for insane aoe damage and more utility than some classes combined
Or a dk for insane damage and amz or group ams or grip
And then you have warrior, where our damage doesn't compare to an enh sham or ret pally, not really, and we have 2 stuns.
Tl:dr toxicity will ALWAYS exist when a META exists. Blizzard is responsible for the meta and therefore responsible for the toxicity that is shown in the community.
It really pisses me off that they're letting shamans run rampant over everything since Thrall came back to Blizz.
Shamans have had more time in the shadows than in the sun.
15% while enh has 3 stuns, bloodlust, range interrupts and a "Oh shit button tank elemental" ... fair ....
Maybe it's just time to stop playing warrior at this point our scaling sucks our dmg sucks and even in our niches we get nerfed into the ground ... Blizzard just doesn't give a fuck about balancing anymore
I did that and I am not touching my warrior unless total rework is done. Even if the damage is tuned to be comparable with other classes, the utility is still really bad and dps warrior is simply a really bad choice for M+.
It’s insane that you/we are happy with fury and we are still a solid 15% after ench. But then again we could be where fire is. Feels bad for you fire mages.
And yeah hope they do something about enchantment, can’t be broken op again.
Fire definitely did well in other runs I did. Just a bad run for Azuna, he had lag issues and stuff and I know he can do more because he outdps'd me in some other dungeons.
But yeah I never asked for Fury to be current Enhance level or meta - I just want it to feel strong enough so I'm not holding my team back
@ I’ll go have a look at your other videos as well then, because I know he is a good player, so just thought fire was in a bad state.
@@divios1 don't think I have any videos with him other than this one, but you can probably find some runs if you look through my livestream vods
Enhance brings lust/self-res and way more group utility than fury does, sorry, but if you are playing fury and it still doesn't do more damage than enhance does, you are actually holding back your group by playing fury instead of enhance.
@@divios1 Fire actually doing pretty well. I watched this run on stream, Azuna was raging the entire time because of latency and messing up his combust rotations.
Hello crit, i havent played wow for a year and have been getting the irk to return, although after watching this video i've come to reason, and wont be returning, thank you critcake.
Knowing blizzard, we are somehow going to get nerfed hours before 11.1 hits.
From what i remember Fur Warr in BfA was the last time it felts that you really cranked on 5 or less targets compared to other classes
A little buff to roar, to OF and maybe the target cap and fury looks really good. Do you reckon your overall would have been higher with UF instead of AM?
With RA instead of AM you mean? I'm not too sure tbh, I haven't tried RA since the most recent round of buffs - will give it a try at some point
yeah RA, sorry my phone somehow Auto corrected it to UF. Cant wait to see you try out RA, seems like a nice change to fury imho. Atleast compared to before.
I hate where Fury is right now. Just because the numbers are “good” doesn’t meana the gameplay is enjoyable
yeah, I am sick of "out of range" messages with all the dont stand on the fire mechanics
Can tell me which UI are u using? Its seems pretty good and clean.
Can u make some video talents atd for Slayer as well ? ty
They need to remove enemy cap
enhance the new face of mythic+
Yo mr Critcake any hope for Arms ? Seems weak rn is it just a raid spec ?
arms is super weak, you are doing just a little more than tank dps.... I had to switch to fury and its much better than arms but no where close to other melee classes yet
TOP is the most painful dungeon ever
I think Floodgate is worst
How good is arms now compared to fury in PTR?
arms is super weak, you are doing just a little more than tank dps.... I had to switch to fury and its much better than arms but no where close to other melee classes yet
Top is one of the good warrior dungeons cuz not that much big pulls. When you go into a key that has large pulls you literally do half the dmg of other uncapped specs. Warrior is in a very bad state.
BUFF FURY!
I am sorry but Blizzard not wanting players to pick their final tree abilities, you know, the ones that should actually be powerful, is just bad game design.
Blizz wants player to pick our final points, they just don't know how to balance those so that it's worth to take, the sim is king and sees the truth, they really should create an internal tool for this on their side
Lets just hope we don't get nerfed 3 times in 3 weeks this time :^)
6:40 Aug rescued you back it looks like.
well, there is no aug, you must mean pres evo.
@ yeah, it’s what I meant. MB. I see Evoker, I insta think Aug for whatever reason
any hope for arms ?
Untill warrior dps does more damage than other classes or gains some new useful utility, we'll still be bottom of the barrel non-desirable class in M+ and it just makes me sad since M+ is really the only thing i play. Meh.
Do you think there is any hope for Odin's spell to be used in Season 2?
Nope, Odyn's is dead unless they do something major with it.
what is the transmog of his swords?
Varruth's Guillotine
@@aris.2195 thank you!
joy
maybe they should buff fire mage up he seems like he needs a little help
so we have this extra aoe talent and we dont even play it in aoe? Bigbrain time
cant wait for one nerf per week again
Not sure I can take a repeat of season 1 lmao
thanks for the video and feedback, sadly its still bad. we have so low utility that being behind utility class in dps make us a bad choice for pick up. like in s1 yeah you can still do high key with friend but in pick up it would be stupid to pick a fury when so many spec can do more dps and bring more. lets hope for more buff but if they continue then we will be to strong in raid and they will nerf us again x)
Enhance is so overtuned xD
delete video monkaS
ench is insane. tell me they wont leave it like that...
:)
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I love fury, but I really hope they buff ret, too. Ret doesn't come anywhere near as close as fury. Those are my 2 specs. Fury is looking good. Ret just needs to be there, too.
Ret is extremely solid. They don't need any buffs at all, especially with their utility. Fury has zero utility.
@@ugladdenThey're not solid, at all. Have you seen their damage on ptr? It's 30% lower than fury. They should have comparable damage. Lower, whatever, than fury, but not much lower to where no one would want to take them. Have all the util you want. If a class is doing tank damage. No one would take them.
@@ugladdenret does have utility. Problem is that Holy and Prot offers the same utility and more. Holy has raid cd and prot has Spellwarding and ofc Avenging Shield. Ret is also loosing their offhealing in 11.1 due to Healing Hands being nerfed.
Ret might be in a better state than some off it competetors but we always compete with Holy and Prot. Even when they have not been meta, there has still been other more "valueable" classes to bring than ret.
EDIT: Also have to say the zero utility on war is nonsens. You have Battle Shout, Rallying Cry, Shockwave and Spell Reflect. Just because it's not as desired as other class utilities in m+ doesn't mean they don't have any utility.
lole
@joshjbeats nothing constructive to say. Not surprised from a warrior brain. Koko the gorilla has a higher iQ than you.