How to Make Currency in Season 6 Torchlight: Infinite - Tips & Tricks

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  • @Palsteron
    @Palsteron  3 місяці тому +8

    BIG NEWS: They just buffed the league mechanic significantly for every tier, meaning it's now probably your best bet to make currency early!

  • @PeterPan-fk5nq
    @PeterPan-fk5nq 3 місяці тому +6

    Can’t stress it enough - you explain the best off all!! - no matter the topic. Thx again!!

  • @Ved1987
    @Ved1987 3 місяці тому +7

    Thank you so much!
    i follow you a lot for POE, and very much enjoy your builds and hearing your opinions on the state of the game.
    This time I started TLI for the first time, and I am truly happy that you have made a very comprehensive guide. That is exactly what I was scouring youtube for, so thanks again!
    Looking forward to more TLI and POE (mb POE2 soon tm?) content from you.

  • @vincentxll
    @vincentxll 3 місяці тому +6

    my favourite poe content creator is now my new favourite torchlight content creator too!

  • @netneo4038
    @netneo4038 3 місяці тому +34

    I've heard that the retention last league wasn't fantastic, so they assumed that speeding up the progression was a mistake. Which is why they've toned it way back down and made everything top heavy.
    The problem is that they're looking at their retention in a vacuum, the reason why there was less retention was because fairly shortly after launch, PoE had their craziest league yet with the inclusion of the AH. One of the most hyped leagues in a long time. Obviously that's going to have big impact on the retention of torchlight players.
    So they entirely misunderstood and took their game in the wrong direction. I hate grinding up slowly through the timemarks, last league was so good when you didn't have to individually raise every single zone every time. I hate how I earn nothing, the crafting feels awkward, it's not rewarding and I'm so far off from having enough power to do T8 that it just feels like an extreme hill to climb.
    This is the opposite of what I like and loved so much about last league in torchlight, I felt like I could easily achieve my own goals, craft stuff, and be rewarded for my time quickly. I had a blast. And this league took it a full 180. Hopefully they'll change it back again next league.

    • @clyp0001
      @clyp0001 3 місяці тому +4

      Counterpoint: this is finally the first season where you have to interact with game mechanics and makes you explore new avenues of progression. You are crawling for a 0.1% increase and when you finally get that breakpoint that lets you progress, you are massively rewarded for it, making it all worth it in the end

    • @netneo4038
      @netneo4038 3 місяці тому +2

      @@clyp0001 I've had to interact with game mechanics in previous seasons too, except there I was able to get progressive rewards and incremental upgrades and especially last league find and craft those myself. It was consistently rewarding with many avenues of farming.
      This season it's just have nothing, struggle, and be broke until you scrounge enough currency together to buy that upgrade from the auction house, and then suddenly you're strong and can actually start farming content effectively. It's a horrendously feelsbad system where you know what you're doing is extremely inefficient and you're underpowered, but you have no choice but to grind through it. The crafting is unimaginative, there's no fun mods that scale your build after they took most of the fun gearing aspects out of the game especially early.
      Honestly I feel like I'm interacting much less with the mechanics this season, I'm just mindlessly getting whatever gear has even a minor increase in damage/defences, more % damage more % ehp. And I run past everything to try and boringly improve the timemark slowely from 1 to 7, then at 7 I run past everything to kill the bosses to try and get a pittance of currency off the market for my boss keys. Until I have farmed enough currency to get a significant upgrade and maybe, just maybe, get to play the game in T8s.
      There are no mechanics to interact with anymore. There's just nothing. This is just 'Ruthless torchlight edition' and that's entirely not what the torchlight playerbase wants. The number 1 praise that torchlight had was that the game was a fun blasting power fantasy that wasn't hard to get into and didn't take a ton of time to be fun. They just turned it into the exact opposite of that.

    • @6Nestea6
      @6Nestea6 3 місяці тому +3

      @@clyp0001 after 3 months you will get your first t0 item. Its not poe, its a mobile game, and no i wont play this shit longer than 2 weeks max even. Now ? I havent even played it after 3 days because it is shit.

    • @jerehirvonen7075
      @jerehirvonen7075 3 місяці тому +5

      Agreed. I have over 500 hours now in TLI but never have I ever felt this defeated as this season. Almost 60h on my char and feels like I haven't gotten anywhere yet. No way am I gonna waste grinding when I haven't gotten anything back, zero good drops, zero luck, zero progression (Even in t8). It sucks cause TLI was one of my favorite dopamine heavy arpgs.

  • @michael_munro
    @michael_munro 3 місяці тому +3

    Hi Pal thank you for sharing so many great tips this video is absolute gold man! You really are a super fair, reasonable and knowledgeable dude and I wish you many subs. I finally made the push last night through the t7-2 to t8 wall and couldn't agree more.. the loot disparity is very noticeable. Keep pushing guys!

  • @Zain-IX
    @Zain-IX 3 місяці тому +29

    7:39 say it bro , say it for what it is. Last Season was so good and your Gemma 3 guide actually made me buy her. And she WAS FUN . But now stuff is very gutted . More Friction and less Drops . Obviously still somewhat good if your up there " but definitiy harder

  • @liujian012
    @liujian012 3 місяці тому +2

    Best instructions on making progress in a hard season. Thank you.

  • @SusYangYang
    @SusYangYang 3 місяці тому +15

    The thing with this season is that I feel like I walked into a McDonalds but they only have salads on the menu. Torchlight had its niche space as the mobile softcore blaster game but they gutted it to become more like PoE. It has lost its identity and watching it try hard to be something it's not is just sad.

  • @Yomush
    @Yomush 3 місяці тому +5

    Protip for people who are progressing trough 7-0 - 7-2 spec into the star shard duplication nodes. They"ll speed up the process of unlocking 7-2 (and 8-0 by extension) a lot

    • @silentwrath777
      @silentwrath777 3 місяці тому

      i killed 4 watchers, on 7-0, killed traveler 7, and doing that unlocked 7-2 for all areas :D

    • @Yomush
      @Yomush 3 місяці тому

      @@silentwrath777 The extra star shards still help with gathering the star points though. Even if you unlock 7-2 you still need to do earlier stuff for points

  • @thatbrentguy9531
    @thatbrentguy9531 3 місяці тому +3

    Tremendously helpful , thank you so much

  • @gaffeOS
    @gaffeOS 3 місяці тому +1

    Thanks for this, did the T8 farm all day and indeed snowballed.

  • @luc_xott
    @luc_xott 3 місяці тому +9

    Really hope XD can pull it together, they over corrected super hard and the game will suffer for it.

  • @Dx_Ach
    @Dx_Ach 3 місяці тому +4

    Embers will be your biggest gatekeeper to progression, and it's really unfortunate. There is little to no way to farm them, and they are relatively rare as natural drops.

  • @ceowylon
    @ceowylon 3 місяці тому +11

    What makes me upset is they’ve acknowledged they care more about numbers than player feedback. So no matter how much we whine about this, if the numbers say retention is better this season they’ll probably keep the crappy drops next season.

    • @jotzel123
      @jotzel123 3 місяці тому +1

      That makes sense since a small minority might be very vocal but if the majority prefers this way of playing it is in the companies best interest to listen to the majority. Numbers don't lie

    • @IXxhpnotiqxXI
      @IXxhpnotiqxXI 3 місяці тому +2

      And that's when I'll leave and most other players will leave. They destroyed hero traits and to a certain degree, crafting

    • @wh0reb0t
      @wh0reb0t 3 місяці тому +2

      @@IXxhpnotiqxXI Crafting is so bad but I keep seeing people talking about it positively.

    • @IXxhpnotiqxXI
      @IXxhpnotiqxXI 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@wh0reb0t yea crafting is so terrible. It's just block and spam simulator

    • @ozbezarius922
      @ozbezarius922 3 місяці тому

      Crafting is good, drops great too. What are you guys on ?

  • @Ben-zy5jg
    @Ben-zy5jg 3 місяці тому +3

    Timemark 8 the new Tier 17 maps.

  • @rusyaidimusa2309
    @rusyaidimusa2309 3 місяці тому

    I think people are sleeping on the Ember duplication node. You ALWAYS need embers and having bosses drop them consistently is very valuable.

  • @andreschumann7327
    @andreschumann7327 3 місяці тому

    9:24 - are you referring to "map" bosses or the area boss you summon with star shards? I haven't seen any tier 8 beacons from a "map" boss

  • @EmbraceMadnezZ
    @EmbraceMadnezZ 3 місяці тому +2

    I understand Devs, who decided to make a huge difference this season. But what upsets me is the change in hero memories, the removal of hero artifacts. For some heroes, the option of hero artifacts and hero memories was the identity of the character and the core of the build mechanics. I can't believe devs deleted all those fun and powerful options from the game. If Devs respected the players, they should have made more careful changes for characters like Rosa, who were very dependent on hero artifacts and memories. Season progress is slow and boring, and I don't like the changed crafting either, so I'm leaving this season.

  • @Adrianosz2
    @Adrianosz2 2 місяці тому

    You help me a lot, thank you. One question - what is the best bubble (most valuable)?

  • @dekina1198
    @dekina1198 3 місяці тому +5

    when it comes to map layouts i disagree with most of them you showed because they are all pretty long.
    my list is:
    Gacial Abyss: swirling mine
    Lava Sea: cofession chappel
    Steel Forge: beast Plains
    Thunder Wastes: courtyard
    Voidlands: Filthy Forest

    • @Fugaziiiiiii
      @Fugaziiiiiii 3 місяці тому +1

      Best to check yourself, good picks, especially void lands one is S tier tbh and also watcher for void is S tier. On the other side my brain did not like chappel at all.

    • @dekina1198
      @dekina1198 3 місяці тому

      @Fugaziiiiiii i like it because it's mid sized and most of the enemys on the path to the boss. It's not the shortest tho

  • @FoxyJesus
    @FoxyJesus 2 місяці тому

    so in 7-2, by bosses do you mean map bosses or the main boss of the entire area?

  • @EjDantes
    @EjDantes 3 місяці тому +7

    They really ruined what they had going for them. You could play any build really and just not hit the top top end. There were issues and needed corrections but I'm pretty close to dropping this season already. Just depends on how easy the asian market takes this and if they accept it, it's likely going to be another generic arpg that dies instead of the good place it fit between Poe/Le/DIablo etc.

  • @rajivdosa
    @rajivdosa 2 місяці тому

    So are we using netherealm resonance to roll 8-0?
    Or is it possible for weaker builds to not roll it and rely on league mechanic?

  • @liangdar9675
    @liangdar9675 3 місяці тому +4

    Appreciate the work, but to be honest I'd rather start a new ssf journey in PoE than keep playing this torchlight season. They slowed the progression down so much and dumbed down the crafting to a point where it's impossible for me to enjoy then game. Pretty sad as I was looking forward to this season.

  • @cheesecakenl1980
    @cheesecakenl1980 15 днів тому

    How do you get so much flame sand? Im at T6 and maybe pick up a couple each map. Is there another way to get them besides recycling?

  • @animemandingo
    @animemandingo 3 місяці тому +2

    im confused ive run a ton of maps and none of the map bosses so far have dropped t8 beacons only t7 what am i missing?

    • @wh0reb0t
      @wh0reb0t 3 місяці тому +4

      The boss you fight after 8 maps drops 2 beacons. It's pretty rare to drop them in map now.

    • @kiritosao3825
      @kiritosao3825 3 місяці тому

      @@wh0reb0t you might be able to help me here cuz im a lil confused. Do I "map" in 7-2 aswell or do I farm the shards for the boss on 7-0 and boss then or does it make any diffrence?

    • @wh0reb0t
      @wh0reb0t 2 місяці тому

      @@kiritosao3825 Makes no difference do whatever is faster

  • @hlord2055
    @hlord2055 3 місяці тому +2

    Noob tip play youga 2 mind control, just follow tenkiei guide and you can progress to t7 very fast. Tip 2 speed run the lowest level on season mekanic to level up the tree, then with good level tree do season stuff on higher levels.

  • @aderan5011
    @aderan5011 3 місяці тому +1

    I am finding it difficult to break into T8 on Selena. I am stuck around 50M DPS, but the upgrades needed to actually push higher are like 100 FE each-- so, T8 is gated behind 500 FE essentially, and with virtually no drops in T7 it is painfully slow. So, I am switching to mind control Youga-- rumor has it that its only 60ish FE to get into T8.

  • @pzhii
    @pzhii 3 місяці тому

    Hi, which compasses i should use for t8 strat?

  • @JonnyPBK
    @JonnyPBK 3 місяці тому

    Should I on 7.2 run plane watcher or sell timeshards?

  • @TehSethh
    @TehSethh 3 місяці тому

    dumb question but how can i see a lot of item in shop ? because right now i have the same display as the phone game and it only shows 2 rows of items

    • @TehSethh
      @TehSethh 3 місяці тому

      by shop i mean the tradehouse

  • @dzsordzsisoros685
    @dzsordzsisoros685 3 місяці тому +2

    Well this season just started and it's not that hard but instead very annoying or tiring. Void chart point or whatever are harder to get cuz of that new progression thingy you need to complete, drops doesn't really exist anymore. The whole game feels now like some masochistic "challenge"

  • @timmers8135
    @timmers8135 3 місяці тому +1

    I was looking for something to tide me over till POE2 early access and 3.26 but for some reason the comments and this video seem kind of discouraging - sounds like all work no fun unless you are well into endgame (in POE comparable to only juiced T17 matter, till then just chore). The sentence "farmed 700 FE to buy items then T8 and then start playing...." hits hard :D Especially in combination with the fact that you need to play some cookie cutter S-tier build to basically get anywhere (thats what it sounds like at least). I might try TLI just for kicks anyways since it seems to have a lot of content.

  • @alexhype1
    @alexhype1 3 місяці тому +2

    😂 bro u sound frustrated like me on the first day of playing idk why they make it so hard when they going to reset it every 3 months

  • @NatiiixLP
    @NatiiixLP 3 місяці тому +1

    Never been a huge fan of how TLI scales both difficulty and loot exponentially, so once the whales with 12+ hours to drop on the game per day start rolling, any casual player has precisely zero chance of catching up to them, and the progress to T8 for the vast majority of builds is basically impossible, again due to the exponential scaling of monster health and damage.
    In PoE, you can farm currency for some basic gear even in the first few acts, and most certainly in T1 maps, and progress into higher tiers with relative ease and confidence, if that's what you need. And even T17s are not that crazy difficult (maybe the bosses with some bad mod combos).
    Also, somehow I don't really like this new crafting system. It seems like it should be less RNG, but it just created a much higher barrier to entry, which is the precise same issue that I have with PoE's endgame crafting.

    • @netneo4038
      @netneo4038 3 місяці тому +1

      I object to your first point in previous patches, sure the degenerate gamers reach T8 first and fast. But the best thing about torchlight was that you didn't need to be fast to get strong. It's not like PoE where picking up a cheap early headhunter and investing in a mirror is all the difference.
      If you were slow you'd make some FE in T7's after a few days, you'd craft your upgrades (because crafting was easy to understand and would easily get you power) or you'd buy some super cheap failed crafting options on the market (depending on which season, last season for example was almost entirely SSF gear).
      This would fairly easily skyrocket your stats towards T8 viability. There was no real extreme advantage to being extremely fast and 'ahead of the curve' (I mean there always is, but that should be case, but it wasn't offensive in any way)
      This is MUCH more the case now, when farming early resources got you the FE needed to breach into t8's to farm raw FE and much more of these resources, which crashes the market and thus leaves slower players without a good way to get their fast upgrades. This season it's basically much more like PoE where if you're not fast, you're going to be off much worse economically. Torchlight used to be the opposite of that.

    • @NatiiixLP
      @NatiiixLP 3 місяці тому +1

      @@netneo4038 It seems that you misunderstood. I was merely talking about how the difficulty scales, and the loot scales the same. In previous seasons, you were printing much more FE in T8-4s with far cheaper gear.
      Yes, it was not so bad before, but it was still absolutely true that off-meta builds were unplayable without ridiculous investments, while meta builds could delete T8+ with like a 100 FE budget.
      The issue that I have is that the difference between being able to clear T1 and T8 in TLI is 1000x greater than the difference between being able to clear T1 and T16 in PoE, in terms of DPS.

  • @dantesantosia8493
    @dantesantosia8493 3 місяці тому

    FE started dropping for me in t6 maps

  • @AmatxD
    @AmatxD 3 місяці тому +3

    This is kalandra league again but worse, not only a nerf league so we have reduced player power, but also they made their systems worse. hero relics/memories were a very cool system, with different and cool mods, now they are just the most generic thing ever.
    also the reduced item mods, and limitations on mods
    just terrible

  • @samphillips141
    @samphillips141 3 місяці тому +2

    This season made it so obvious why so many dev teams have began catering to the casual player base.
    Imagine basically telling non-meta slaves to fuck off, FE drops are not for you because we don't know how to stop losers 'breaking the game in 2 days'.

    • @mightaziez
      @mightaziez 3 місяці тому

      so.. basically PoE

    • @samphillips141
      @samphillips141 3 місяці тому +1

      @@mightaziez Nah PoE you can play hundreds of skills to t16 and make hundreds of div. Only issue with PoE is how rough league start is with out good league starters.

  • @slyace1301
    @slyace1301 3 місяці тому +1

    every single item that should sell in t7 got fked after this video lol. like t8 beacons selling for 2fe now. this game became a joke. I just want to finish BP so I quit the fking pos. BTW I killed Traveller 5 times, dropped fck all. just sell anything you can

  • @Tom-xr4qy
    @Tom-xr4qy 2 місяці тому

    How i made 2000 Fe and forget about this season. Where is build? Another content maybe?) lol.

  • @icespirit5030
    @icespirit5030 3 місяці тому +1

    This game now shit. Worstest season ever - this looks like crappy mobile game. insta skip after 3 days

  • @Fr33urmind
    @Fr33urmind 3 місяці тому +2

    This video helped me uninstall torchlight at 90% download

  • @bloodspyke4
    @bloodspyke4 2 місяці тому

    This game is carried by its' creators

  • @ozbezarius922
    @ozbezarius922 3 місяці тому

    Why for people big drops = fun ? Isnt playing game and enjoying the process is the main thing ? Gamers nowdays are all about meta and 'job simulator' with farming currency.

    • @Zain-IX
      @Zain-IX 3 місяці тому +3

      @@ozbezarius922 because its an ARPG and loot ( that is good ) is the Point

    • @ozbezarius922
      @ozbezarius922 3 місяці тому

      @Zain-IX its one of the points and not the main for sure. In something like looter-shooter i would understand that statement ( where loot and shooting is main points ) , but in arpg , where dynamic battles and role playing as a class must be main points. Loot just helps you with role playing and thats it. I mean every time when i see person going for loot or best strategy its like he is not really enjoying game , but just hunting dopamine of accomplishment. I had friends that did loot 'hunting' and also friends that just played game and chill without strategies. I can say that second guys had much more fun than first ones.

    • @rajivdosa
      @rajivdosa 2 місяці тому

      @@ozbezarius922 The main point of hack'n Slash RPGs like poe, torchlight, etc is the loot. Story is nice and all but its basically an after thought. And Role-Playing as character - there is nothing significant there for such RPGs

    • @ozbezarius922
      @ozbezarius922 2 місяці тому

      @@rajivdosa l mean loot is important , but not whole purpose tho. People make loot main purpose and thats where problems come. So meta, counting seconds spent on map, finding fastest ways to skip gameplay to get more loot... Its like are we playing ACTION rpg or Monopoly rpg ? With every year i feel more and more how arpgs become just loot hunting game instead of rpg. I still remember how i played diablo 2 and poe when it started, enjoying gameplay and were curious how to build new characters not carrying about loot THAT much.

  • @ВладК-ш7м
    @ВладК-ш7м 3 місяці тому

    so boring game....

  • @moonphase6491
    @moonphase6491 3 місяці тому

    bla
    xdd

  • @BlackbeardVG
    @BlackbeardVG 3 місяці тому +6

    This game is fundementally flawed. They create these "simple" systems but the mechanics that go along with them are just complex for the sake of it. There are very few that takes this shit serious enough to sink any amount of time in to it to learn it. There is literally no point to farming in this game. You just do whatever the FE strat is and buy everything and then you're done with no more reason to play it.

    • @dantesantosia8493
      @dantesantosia8493 3 місяці тому

      You can play solo self found

    • @Nyc862
      @Nyc862 3 місяці тому +2

      You do the exact same thing in every arpg new season launch? Most of the playerbase does whatever the most profitable strat Is for a week or two, buy the best gear and then quit 2 weeks into the league .