History of Manchester - 2. A Tale of Two Ditches
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- In the second part in the Manchester series we're going to be looking at Medieval Manchester (Mameceaster) and the wilderness years between the Romans and the Industrial Revolution.
I trace the route of one of the city's most intriguing mysteries - the famous Nico Ditch - once a boundary line between the Saxon kingdoms of Northumbria and Mercia, and also possibly even a defensive earthwork.
Then I head into the city's Medieval Quarter to look at the Cathedral, Chetham's Library and the equally mysterious Hanging Ditch. Who knew that the history of such a place could be found by looking in ditches?
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I worked in Manchester for a year and wish these videos existed then. There is so much I've learned and now know i missed so much.
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Really enjoyed that,thankyou 👍✌️
Very informative videos, I know of strawberry studios in greater Manchester where 10cc used to record their music, it became their home studio. Joy division, the smiths, the moody blues and Paul McCartney recorded there as well.
it always fascinates me that these diches are so strait and almost never built on as you pointed out. maybe part of a ley line ?
Thank you for the informational video! I'm going to Manchester in a couple of days and I already feel nostalgic about a city I've never actually been to yet. I like this Oasis pun in your username!
Haha thanks! Its a great place. Just hope you get some sunshine!
Top History! Really enjoy your stuff [praise indeed from a scouser]
Cheers thank you!
Thanks. I've learnt so much about this great city
Brilliant vids. So informative and enjoyable to watch. Also love the music & editing. 👍
Parts of the ditch are still visible on Ryebank Fields in Chorlton. It also appears to feature old maps from the early 1900s. It appears this part of the ditch was one of the last parts of it to be built over.
Amazing! Great info. I'll check that out. I don't live very far from there
Similar to previous comments, I've just discovered your channel. As a Mancunian, I'm surprised by how little I know about my city. Instant subscriber.
Just to add, I worked in the school next to the ditch (Melland high school) I can assure you we knew exactly what the ditch was when I worked there.
Great Video- I liked and subscribed 👍
I love this video! Keep this up, I'm following your channel, this is AMAZING 😊
Love it great way of telling History 😊
Thank you!
I've been visiting Gorton these past couple of years for my investigations and excavations of Hyde Road Railway Station on the Fallowfield Loop, I never knew that ditch was there. I think this Sunday, if I have the time after I come out of the underground chamber of the station, I might pop down to the ditch and have a mooch around, I'm not too far away!
just had this vlog of yours show up in my "recommended" UA-cam videos. most channels never catch my attention, but yours has, and I've subscribed. looking forward to going through your older vids and catching up!
Very interesting and well edited 👍 Keep posting and it won’t be long till you surpass Martin Zero. I love Manchester’s Victorian industrial past but find it harder to gain much insight further back in time ... make that your niche 🤩
Hey that's lovely to hear! I will certainly try my best, though like you say, it's very difficult to pick out history in Manchester before the eighteenth century.
I would love a trip around Manchester withyou mate. Great storry telling skills!👍
Martin Zero did this with all the magnum fossata stuff
Nice one I've just watched it. He covers it much better than I do. I love his videos and the ones you've done with him too!!
@@BeeHereNowuk All of you guys do a great job of telling that history which is all too often omitted from the mani stream docco makers and history tellers. All of you keep up the great work
Just found your channel and really enjoying the videos I've watched so far , keep up the good work 👍
So many historical things lost. Nico Ditch filled in and mostly gone. At 6.50, I bet most people walking there don't know or care about the history of it. Too many don't care about yesterday and are only interested in today, and don't even care about tomorrow.
The area around Manchester Cathedral is nice.
I remember the Old Wellington pub and Sinclair's Oyster Bar being moved from their original location and going up some wide concrete steps when I first started going drinking and went in at their original location. It must have been in the 1970's. There is something about Byrom looking out and seeing Jacobites passing by.
This was brilliant thanks for posting. 👍
Brilliant! Love this!
Love to see a vid with you and Martin zero
My father, born in Worsley, looked all the world like a Viking, and I’ve had a kind of romantic notion that were descended from the Scandinavians, Manchester being part, as you say, of the Danelaw. These thin slithers of history that you point to Ollie are in some ways the most fascinating.
It seems curious that Mercia had two other boundary ditches (albeit with ramparts) along the Welsh frontier in the form of Watt’s Dyke and Offa’s Dyke, so why not a northern boundary too? Those ancient boundaries with Wales are respected throughout the ages by more modern boundaries, just like the ones you highlighted.
Excellent presentation thanks, you’re very, very good at explaining these documentaries
Thank you that's very nice to say. Cheers!
Thank you that's very nice to say. Cheers!
Great video, very informative and easy to follow with your maps. Have subscribed, look forward to hearing more about Manchester history!
It probably DID carry water. Just as it does In the cemetery.
Not as a water course, but it would have filled up in parts with rainwater. Which would have been a good thing, as it would have made crossing it just that much harder.!🤔!.
What do you think to this.?🤔?.
Love your videos mate.
Rich🥰🥰🥰.
Oh you said it! Next to Mellons it 8s still very deep!
I’ve lived in Manchester all my life and I’ve never heard of nico ditch
I’m going looking for it now I live very near Denton golf course
Thank you
Haha okay but it's not very impressive! It's good hunting it down but it's probably the worst historical attraction in the country
Brilliant
HI, I like the videos you are doing please do more. I have a small challenge. On Ashton old road opposite the mercedes benz showroom and next to a car wash business is the side of a bridge. Behind it there appears to be a train/container. It is gated on one side. I was wondering if you wanted to solve this puzzle of what it is and why it is there??? I discovered it myself but havent managed to get further with its purpose. So, are you up for the challenge to research it and post a video about it??. Many Thanks, martin.
I think I know where you mean? Is it in the trees?
@@BeeHereNowuk Hi, It is overgrown yes. I was going to go back with a camera on a stick to get a closer look inside the train-like structure. Im not brave enough to jump over. Thankyou for your reply. I did find a map of the area but it didnt shed any new light on it. I know that one end is gated off with something modern though. :)
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Thank you for the video. Born moss side Manchester john Rooney st.annes Lancashire UK
Interesting stuff...👍🏻
Great videos. From Newcastle but living in Manchester for 7 years now, interested in the history.
Also somewhat of an ASMR effect.
Oh good to know 😂 Thanks for watching it :)
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Wow, Friedrich Engels hung out in Manchester?... I worked in Barmen (Wuppertal) for 14 years, the first of which was actually on Friedrich-Engels-Allee.
aaah, now i understand the name of the one time wine merchants/bar (Hanging ditch) next to the cathedral.
The Old Shambles was moved in the late 60's or early 1970s from what was called St Mary's Gardens. I remember it in the original location. One of my teachers (Broughton Modern), a well known Salford artist, went onto the building site before the Shambles was moved and picked up what looked like an old tap washer. When he gave it a wash at home, he found it to be a diamond-encrusted piece of jewellery that had been reported lost (I think) by a Spanish noblewoman who stayed there in medieval times. He told me at the time that it may or not be 'treasure trove'. 10 (Radcliffe House) house-points to anyone who went to that school who can name the teacher!
Sir?
Hi and a big thanks for all your interesting videos, gives Martin Zero a run for his money,,, which is another down to earth brill UA-cam'er just wondering where the map of ye'old French owned Manchester came from. The very top of it shows 1300s Dunkenhalgh. Regards David
i believe were Hunts Bank and Walkers Croft is it was used as a burial site the plague ...
Can see this ditch much clearer on the levenshulme Gorton border across the road from the highschool :
After watching this and Martin Zeros video, I decided to go and find Nico Ditch for myself in Platt Fields. I found what I believe to be a bit of the ditch which isn’t fenced in and I stood inside it.. Please can I send you an email with some photos to see what you think? 😃
Yeah sure! Love to see them
Bee Here Now what’s your email address please?
Hi its beeherenowuk@gmail.com
Bee Here Now I’ve emailed you
I think you should link up with another Mancunian UA-camr called Martin zero, he's just like you but nearly twice your age.
Channel is my new vice
i,ll taking a look at Red Lion Brook and Chorlton Brook and were it joins the River Mersey in a few weeks time ...i dont do videos i have a Stammer ...
Oh you even went there... should have waited before commenting
The Angles and the Saxons were two different tribes; the Angles being from Britain and the Saxons being form Germany. The Anglo Saxons were the product of invasion of the lands of the Angles, by the Saxons and by settling in Britain and 'mixing' with the Angles, the combination of both becoming what is known as the Anglo Saxons.
In conclusion, nowhere has ever been invaded by the Anglo Saxons.
Uhmm - Angeln is a strip of land between Flensburg und Schleswig on the jutish peninsula, just north of the biggest trade point of the viking time, Haithabu. The Angel-Sachsen (anglo-saxons) were both folk from what is now Germany and southern Denmark.
Sorry but that doesn't agree with any accounts I've heard - Angles, Frisians, Jutes and Saxons were all Germanic tribes that crossed the German Bight and settled/slaughtered (depending which theory you prefer). The Angles were in the North - Northumbria, Mercia and East Anglia, the Saxons mainly in the south.
I suppose you are right that the 'Anglo-Saxons' didn't invade - but the Angles and Saxons definitely did.
A ditch of that magnitude must've been a defensive ditch why else make it. Plus it acts as a clear border between North and south.
I always thought it was mancunium
i just saw martinzeros video who is ripping off who here coz summat smells funky
Martin made his vid in 2018 but I don't think it matters because the same subject can be viewed and presented in many perspectives and when comes to the neglected real, industrial and social histories of Manchester the more people telling the story the better. I also like the younger perspectives of Mancunian history as told by Curbex (Connor)
"a gift to the people".??.
More likely to be his (hopefull) ticket to heaven.!😂!.
Rich 🥰🥰🥰.
Same thing really.
Back then people were encouraged to do Pilgrimage to the Holy Land ... but the Church saw a way of capitalizing on it and would accept gifts and monies instead of pilgrimage and give dispensation to the person involved to be going "upstairs" rather than the other place ;0)
In our modern times when the efforts of the working classes to gain better living and working conditions, are being eroded once again by greedy business and bosses, I believe that the world should be reminded once again of Marx and Engels
Absolutely! Couldn't agree more.
Really!? And the creator liked this!? What a really strange statement to make.......