Imagine the thrill of seeing a 12 year old myself at the front of the North Bank. I remember at the time watching the Big Match on Sunday and spotting myself a couple of times. I'm eligible to collect my state pension next year. 😮Thanks for the upload and distant memory.
What a brilliant upload, in colour too! Never quite worked out how Bobby Moore stayed spotless while those around him were covered in mud! The man was pure class.
Yeah like we all had colour tvs then. Prob about 5% or less of households could afford to buy or rent one. Can't say it bothered me. I knew the colour of grass was green & tv then was about content & what you heard is what mattered to us. I didn't get colour tv until 1984. I'd go back to 1970 in a flash. TV now is a pile of poop, zero content.
@@rolfvaughan3175 Every sport Rolf had its own great voice. Dan Maskell for snooker, Murray Walker for F1 racing and Brian Johnstone for cricket are three more.
Jimmy Greenhoff - a toss up between him and Howard Kendall as to who was the best uncapped English player of his generation. Happy memories of watching that Giles goal on Sunday afternoon tv - even though Keith Macklin was a misplaced rugby league commentator.
The Big Match from 68-73 with Brian Moore & Jimmy Hill seems better than the late 70s episodes that get shown on ITV4 with a solo Brian Moore. These earlier ones have better camera angles, interviews etc.
This match was played on 20th March 1971. The previous March I attended my very 1st match at UP when we beat Liverpool 1-0 thanks to a Pat Holland goal. That game was Jimmy Greaves's home debut. I stood on that odd "extension" of the North Bank next to the main stand - it's shown in this video at 2:50.
That odd extension at 2.50 is in the South Bank (where they used to have a TV camera just above the goal). There was another similar one diametrically opposite it in the North Bank though.
As a young boy I stood over by the cage in the North Bank with my dad. Because there was a couple of thicker steps so I could see more of the game. But that was 78 and it was fenced off by then.
How ironic, I was born in Dundee, 1957, and been a Palace supporter ever since Ian Philip joined in '72. So despite Alan Gilzean and Peter Lorimer connections with my home town I can't say why I did? I find it amusing that when asked why I never followed Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal, who all had large Scottish connections. As an "old Git" I still love the "Glazier" days before Mr. Allison changed things, and have the earlier Retro kits of these days. Stonewall Jackson being the best 'keeper England never capped. Me and 'The Wife' annually hit London where she gets to see a west End show and I get to visit Selhurst Park to update my wardrobe. So, for us it's "Glad all over" till the next year.
Back then footballers were tougher. These so called players today couldn't play in those conditions they'd throw tantrums and complain like big girls blouses!
Everyone Says Negative Things tho, My late Father Hated the Long Hair of the '70's and Later the perms Footballers had. He didn't Think They were Manly and Tough . He Thought Finley, mathews , Lawton were Tougher .As for all the Post Goal Celebrations.....😄😄
I imagine if today's players were brought up playing on these shit fields, like the old players were, they'd play just as well as these guys did. It's not the players' fault the pitches are close to perfect these days, so don't take it out on them and say they're soft. Plus, I doubt the older players would say no to playing on these nice fields and that they'd prefer it if someone ripped up the field and made it so muddy the ball won't roll.
How the heck did they even manage to play on pitches like that West Ham pitch! If a modern ref was in charge of that game I think there would be barely any players left on the pitch.
Would the game go ahead now ? Coventry called off three home games this season saying their pitch was "in a dangerous condition" after the Rugby World Cup or whatever had been played at their ground pre season. NO WAY can I imagine it being REMOTELY as churned up as Upton Park here ! And remember the 1969 LC Final at Wembley ? The Horse of the Year show jumping left it in a chronic state but the game went on. Footballs lost far more than its gained these last 30 years
@@infrasleep There is absolutely no way any football would be played on those pitches today. First of all no grounds man would keep his job if he allowed his pitch to get even close to that state. I mean that is an area that sport has improved. As for football has lost more than it has gained I totally agree with you but i am sure that is mainly a generational argument. The fitness and skill levels today are miles ahead of the 1970's but the purity of the game has suffered terribly. Money and power ruin everything eventually sports are no different sadly!
This was footy then & pitches had wear & their troubles but it was no different to Sunday pub leagues, it was part of the battle & I wouldn't change it. Today's grass fabric plasticy stuff is just ultra perfect & ultra boring as it has zero impact on a game as it once was including the 90s. For me a pitch should be pure grass turf on a bed of earth, not rolled in & out. Derby's Baseball Ground was notorious but on its bad days ie Oct-Mar you would get great & skillful play & Clough would deliberately near waterlog it with a day long hosing down, in his European's games with Spanish & Italian teams. It worked.
Kitwatch time: - Ipswich's away kit had the old-style badge that I believe had another season before being replaced with their current badge. - West Ham's kit was refreshingly clear of any unnecessary decoration. - I reckon Leeds United's kit would be an absolute mare to get clean, especially in the aftermath of an Elland Road quagmire. They still have the old-school badge that they had, right up to the picture of the dead sheep. Wonder when they adopted the monogram that I feel they're more famous for? - Palace's lesser known away duds look quite smart, with those red collars and cuffs. But I would have thought they'd have worn blue shorts as well - Stoke City is simple yet classic, taking the West Ham route. - As with Palace, I would have thought Man United had opted for blue shorts, partly to differentiate themselves from Stoke but also to hope that this would rub off some magic from the 1968 European Cup team. Still, sort of helps if you have George Best who played as if he still gave a stuff.
The ball then was heavier than it is now,you had to have power & skill to score great goals then,a kid of 10 now can score from the half way line & that's a lass ! This was the best era no pun intended..!
I wondered how the kit man managed to get the mud out of the west ham white shorts in fact any of the kits ,i wonder that as i don't know how they did it wh as t with the pitches
Some of those tackles in the West Ham Ipswich game.😮 The pre Madonna’s in todays game would never get up again and the players man buns would need re grooming.
What a treat! Hurst, Moore, Greaves, Best, Charlton, and Law, and that indomitable Leeds team. But I forgot how condescending Brian Moore and Jimmy Hill were.
this is the second time on one of these uploads from the early '70s that a keeper has been 5'8" and it's just shocking to see it, especially given how reliant on crosses into the box that era was. Poor Ipswich keeper just looked like a little kid.
Laurie Sivell, played around 200 games for Ipswich and never let them down. Ironically the keeper who generally replaced him (Paul Cooper) wasn't the biggest either.
How the fuck did they manage to play first division football on what resembled a cow field is beyond me. It was a case of hoof it and hope for the best.
The pitches were just mud for most of the season. No wonder the British game prioritised hoofing the ball from one end to the other - you couldn't pass it on the ground!
Ah dems the days. I do miss that slushy, muddy Upton Park. Sliding tackles, peanuts in the stands, patting the players on the back, and we paid entry with coins - just some shillings I think? And only 1 sub. Imagine England in the Euros now with only one sub.
Brian Moore so biased towards London teams, imagine if that 2nd Ipswich goal was scored by West Ham....he screamed with delight with Jimmy Greaves 2nd, which was an own goal anyway went in
Greaves was a class player and had a load more skill than people give him credit for. He was wasted at west ham and should have played for Clough at Derby.
@jontalbot1 Read the book Greavsie! Jimmy Greaves also said it on his documentary that he should have played for Derby under Clough, the both had a lot of respect for eachother as people and players. Both hailed eachother as a genius...and rightly so.
@jontalbot1 Again, in a book that George Best wrote, I can't recall which one, he said that Clough wanted him go to Derby and also Bobby Moore! I'm sure Clough would of handled the drinking, unfortunately Cloughie succumbed to it towards the end of his career.
Imagine the thrill of seeing a 12 year old myself at the front of the North Bank. I remember at the time watching the Big Match on Sunday and spotting myself a couple of times. I'm eligible to collect my state pension next year. 😮Thanks for the upload and distant memory.
What a buzz!
Mills (capt), Woods and Lambert (sub) were still in the Ipswich team which won the cup in 78.
Bonds and Lampard won 2 FA Cups for West Ham, 75 and 80.
What a brilliant upload, in colour too! Never quite worked out how Bobby Moore stayed spotless while those around him were covered in mud! The man was pure class.
Yeah like we all had colour tvs then. Prob about 5% or less of households could afford to buy or rent one. Can't say it bothered me. I knew the colour of grass was green & tv then was about content & what you heard is what mattered to us. I didn't get colour tv until 1984. I'd go back to 1970 in a flash. TV now is a pile of poop, zero content.
Listening to him speak after all these years, the great Brian Moore definitely had the best football commentators voice of them all! R.I.P Brian.👍.
He was and still is my favourite presenter
@@rolfvaughan3175 Every sport Rolf had its own great voice. Dan Maskell for snooker, Murray Walker for F1 racing and Brian Johnstone for cricket are three more.
@@john.highheels.3244 And Peter "o" Sullevan for Horse Racing 🙂
Jimmy Greaves, Geoff Hurst, Pop Robson and Bobby Moore in the same team 🎉
And only 3 points off the bottom of the table!!! In late March!
Jimmy Greenhoff - a toss up between him and Howard Kendall as to who was the best uncapped English player of his generation. Happy memories of watching that Giles goal on Sunday afternoon tv - even though Keith Macklin was a misplaced rugby league commentator.
Macklin was a fantastic commentater.
As an Ipswich fan l apologise to West Ham for putting out Bell, Jefferson and Hammond in the same team.
The Big Match from 68-73 with Brian Moore & Jimmy Hill seems better than the late 70s episodes that get shown on ITV4 with a solo Brian Moore. These earlier ones have better camera angles, interviews etc.
This match was played on 20th March 1971. The previous March I attended my very 1st match at UP when we beat Liverpool 1-0 thanks to a Pat Holland goal. That game was Jimmy Greaves's home debut.
I stood on that odd "extension" of the North Bank next to the main stand - it's shown in this video at 2:50.
That odd extension at 2.50 is in the South Bank (where they used to have a TV camera just above the goal). There was another similar one diametrically opposite it in the North Bank though.
@@JohninRosc Thanks for the correction John - cheers !
As a young boy I stood over by the cage in the North Bank with my dad. Because there was a couple of thicker steps so I could see more of the game. But that was 78 and it was fenced off by then.
Jimmy Greaves and George Best⚽️👍🏼
Saw a sign saying please keep off the grass!....there wasn't any! Hilarious
How ironic, I was born in Dundee, 1957, and been a Palace supporter ever since Ian Philip joined in '72. So despite Alan Gilzean and Peter Lorimer connections with my home town I can't say why I did? I find it amusing that when asked why I never followed Man Utd, Liverpool or Arsenal, who all had large Scottish connections.
As an "old Git" I still love the "Glazier" days before Mr. Allison changed things, and have the earlier Retro kits of these days. Stonewall Jackson being the best 'keeper England never capped.
Me and 'The Wife' annually hit London where she gets to see a west End show and I get to visit Selhurst Park to update my wardrobe. So, for us it's "Glad all over" till the next year.
Great skills, imagine the players of today playing in the wet heavy conditions, don’t think they could cope.
no way would they
Back then footballers were tougher. These so called players today couldn't play in those conditions they'd throw tantrums and complain like big girls blouses!
Everyone Says Negative Things tho, My late Father Hated the Long Hair of the '70's and Later the perms Footballers had. He didn't Think They were Manly and Tough . He Thought Finley, mathews , Lawton were Tougher .As for all the Post Goal Celebrations.....😄😄
I imagine if today's players were brought up playing on these shit fields, like the old players were, they'd play just as well as these guys did.
It's not the players' fault the pitches are close to perfect these days, so don't take it out on them and say they're soft.
Plus, I doubt the older players would say no to playing on these nice fields and that they'd prefer it if someone ripped up the field and made it so muddy the ball won't roll.
@@kevinmunday6263 Bobby Charlton had long hair, well when the wind was blowing hard & up it went.
Only one sub, swamp pitches and GBH tackles, I’m amazed games ever finished wilh eleven vs eleven.
Georgie Best was a phenomena , He could Dance around the Opposition and score on any Surface
Even CR7 cannot touch him now
Those two Best goals were not just heavenly- but double heavenly. A complete genius.
Love and miss those days..I hate modern football.. money has killed football ⚒️⚒️⚒️
Watching this Ive come to the conclusion that Brian Moore is million time better than anything Sky sports offer.
How the heck did they even manage to play on pitches like that West Ham pitch! If a modern ref was in charge of that game I think there would be barely any players left on the pitch.
More like the battle of the Somme than the battle of Upton Park.
Would the game go ahead now ? Coventry called off three home games this season saying their pitch was "in a dangerous condition" after the Rugby World Cup or whatever had been played at their ground pre season. NO WAY can I imagine it being REMOTELY as churned up as Upton Park here ! And remember the 1969 LC Final at Wembley ? The Horse of the Year show jumping left it in a chronic state but the game went on. Footballs lost far more than its gained these last 30 years
@@infrasleep There is absolutely no way any football would be played on those pitches today. First of all no grounds man would keep his job if he allowed his pitch to get even close to that state. I mean that is an area that sport has improved. As for football has lost more than it has gained I totally agree with you but i am sure that is mainly a generational argument. The fitness and skill levels today are miles ahead of the 1970's but the purity of the game has suffered terribly. Money and power ruin everything eventually sports are no different sadly!
This was footy then & pitches had wear & their troubles but it was no different to Sunday pub leagues, it was part of the battle & I wouldn't change it. Today's grass fabric plasticy stuff is just ultra perfect & ultra boring as it has zero impact on a game as it once was including the 90s. For me a pitch should be pure grass turf on a bed of earth, not rolled in & out. Derby's Baseball Ground was notorious but on its bad days ie Oct-Mar you would get great & skillful play & Clough would deliberately near waterlog it with a day long hosing down, in his European's games with Spanish & Italian teams. It worked.
Modern players would cry into their little panties.
Kitwatch time:
- Ipswich's away kit had the old-style badge that I believe had another season before being replaced with their current badge.
- West Ham's kit was refreshingly clear of any unnecessary decoration.
- I reckon Leeds United's kit would be an absolute mare to get clean, especially in the aftermath of an Elland Road quagmire. They still have the old-school badge that they had, right up to the picture of the dead sheep. Wonder when they adopted the monogram that I feel they're more famous for?
- Palace's lesser known away duds look quite smart, with those red collars and cuffs. But I would have thought they'd have worn blue shorts as well
- Stoke City is simple yet classic, taking the West Ham route.
- As with Palace, I would have thought Man United had opted for blue shorts, partly to differentiate themselves from Stoke but also to hope that this would rub off some magic from the 1968 European Cup team. Still, sort of helps if you have George Best who played as if he still gave a stuff.
Brian Moore Jimmy Hill Hugh Johns legendary players with great skill what more could you ask for.🐻🐒🤗👍
In the west ham game l don't think l saw one square pass in the whole game! All out attack and endurance
The ball then was heavier than it is now,you had to have power & skill to score great goals then,a kid of 10 now can score from the half way line & that's a lass ! This was the best era no pun intended..!
I wondered how the kit man managed to get the mud out of the west ham white shorts in fact any of the kits ,i wonder that as i don't know how they did it wh as t with the pitches
Billy Bonds bossed the midfield. Skill level high though less closing down . But they glided around on this swamp.
Some of those tackles in the West Ham Ipswich game.😮 The pre Madonna’s in todays game would never get up again and the players man buns would need re grooming.
It seems so weird seeing players back-pass to the goalie and the goalie picking the ball up 😆⚒
I still think it's weird when the goalie picks it up and runs with it. 😕
the difference in pitch quality between the London pitch and Stokes and Leeds....
What a treat! Hurst, Moore, Greaves, Best, Charlton, and Law, and that indomitable Leeds team. But I forgot how condescending Brian Moore and Jimmy Hill were.
Brian Moore dropping a clanger over the Booby Moore quadrant rule I see. The Ball is clearly in touch with the line from an overhead viewpoint.
The West Ham United game nowadays (in the Premier League) would get called off!
this is the second time on one of these uploads from the early '70s that a keeper has been 5'8" and it's just shocking to see it, especially given how reliant on crosses into the box that era was. Poor Ipswich keeper just looked like a little kid.
Laurie Sivell, played around 200 games for Ipswich and never let them down. Ironically the keeper who generally replaced him (Paul Cooper) wasn't the biggest either.
5'8" goalkeeper for Ipswich ..
38:24 Was there a time when you didn't get the ball for scoring three??
How the fuck did they manage to play first division football on what resembled a cow field is beyond me. It was a case of hoof it and hope for the best.
I know there called the tractors boy but did they need to play on a ploughed field
Ironic that Hurst and Greaves playing together after Hurst had taken his place at the 1966 World Cup finals.
Greaves was the best of the lot, met him once.
@@shaunbodenGot to agree best finisher ever tho I rated Dennis Law and Allan Clarke highly
The pitches were just mud for most of the season. No wonder the British game prioritised hoofing the ball from one end to the other - you couldn't pass it on the ground!
That isn't a pitch, it's a ploughed field!
Ah dems the days. I do miss that slushy, muddy Upton Park. Sliding tackles, peanuts in the stands, patting the players on the back, and we paid entry with coins - just some shillings I think? And only 1 sub. Imagine England in the Euros now with only one sub.
Even back then we never wanted to see such tackles. But todays play acting sickens me.
No play acting or cheating
Poor old Palace 🤣🤣🤣
No VAR then just bruised limbs
Brian Moore so biased towards London teams, imagine if that 2nd Ipswich goal was scored by West Ham....he screamed with delight with Jimmy Greaves 2nd, which was an own goal anyway went in
Greaves was a class player and had a load more skill than people give him credit for. He was wasted at west ham and should have played for Clough at Derby.
I can’t imagine Greavsie and Clough in the same town let alone dressing room.
@jontalbot1 Read the book Greavsie! Jimmy Greaves also said it on his documentary that he should have played for Derby under Clough, the both had a lot of respect for eachother as people and players. Both hailed eachother as a genius...and rightly so.
@@LordFlashheart.11 Stone me! Wonder if Cloughie knew about the drinking
@jontalbot1 Again, in a book that George Best wrote, I can't recall which one, he said that Clough wanted him go to Derby and also Bobby Moore! I'm sure Clough would of handled the drinking, unfortunately Cloughie succumbed to it towards the end of his career.
@@LordFlashheart.11 Yes that’s right…nice red nose!