One of the things I like most about this Meateater series is the way the stories are told. Ken Burns is one of best American story tellers IMO. This episode does not disappoint.
Wow. I finally watched the whole thing after two false starts trying to listen to it in the car and I'll say, this is the best podcast on this channel so far. You have to watch it with full concentration and a cup, or three, of a favored warm beverage. I now think of it as a companion piece to the Ken Burns film. Steven wept after getting to the end of The Vietnam War series. The same thing happened to me. It's a gruelling but necessary look at the senselessness of war and how it sometimes has to be waged.
You got these three intellectuals talking. Each filling in words like husband and wives do for each other. Beautiful conversations ! A marriage of passions.
Ken Burns is truly a national treasure. A genius film maker and great american. Great work in getting him on your podcast Steve. You my friend are a great storyteller in your own right. I very much look forward to your drop every Monday. I love how you mix great subject matter along with hunting, fishing and the great outdoors. I appreciate you brother!
I met Ken Burns 13 years ago when I was 14 and he was legit the nicest, smartest guy who put up with a dipshit middle schooler very well. Always happy when he release a new doc!
Ken Burns doing a Leonardo doc. Wow…great news. The highlight of my trip to Milan was the Last Supper. The 15 minutes spent with that painting, I’ll never forget.
No he isn't. Burns is very talented in his craft but got so many facts and narratives wrong. Bob Gibson and Ty Cobb deserve posthumous apologies for his false characterizations.
I was just about to say the same thing. KB has done some of the best documentaries of all time and Steve does a great job of hosting him and Mr. Duncan.
Not sure there's any such thing as a perfect National Treasure. Like all mankind, they share the ills and faults common to all humanity. In fact, that makes them even more valuable as a Treasure.
What a great conversation! Love that Burns (and Steven and Dayton) talk about how things are NOT simply binary and that there is extreme complexity in all of these stories. Large societal issues are complex and man has struggles along the way. Can't wait for this film.
The West…”it’s not full”. So tragically true! I lived 5 years in Kansas (1957) as a child & never saw a buffalo, elk, antelope. I do remember prairie dogs (now gone) and meadowlarks - but really just wheat fields and oil wells. I was able to drive across our country in my late 60’s & saw prairie grasslands for the first time in Theodore Roosevelt National Park. Ken Burns is truly a national treasure! Learning history is vitally important for understanding ourselves and our world.
So much was lost when the west was either turned into farmland or grazing ranches. It's a good thing the American Bison Society recognized the insanity of exterminating the buffalo and replacing them with cattle.
As you hear of Louis and Clarks expeditions I can't help but think of my own family's Adventure in 1637 when our first American grandfather crossed the Atlantic with his mother and brother when he was just 17 years old, as a Pilgrim from Leiden Holland. He signed as an indentured servant for twenty years to pay for his trip. And so the Spooner family became American.
56:00 i like how steve brings up the use of the word buffalo in the title of the doc. i'm relatively new to much of this stuff, caring about buffalo, steve rinella's podcast and books, etc. but one thing i do know is there are some people out there who are funny about the word buffalo. glad rinella brought that up. keep up the good work steven. you've got a non-hunting fan in me. thanks for the information you're spreading.
What eloquent gentlemen to have as guests, didn't think I would watch in one sitting but it flew by. Their ability to paint a picture with words is incredible. I love the comment about why "buffalo"; I'm in agreement with Ken that while calling them Bison vs. buffalo is a valid argument it's sort of an overdone argument given that historically in American culture we have consistently referenced them as Buffalo. Especially in pop culture; buffalo Bill, Buffalo nickel etc.,.
Amazing Podcast! I could listen to Ken, Dayton, and Steven talk about stuff all day, I learn so much, and wonder why we don't learn these facts in school?
I cannot wait to see his Revolutionary War film. I've watched Baseball, Lewis and Clark, and The Civil War.....many many times. Ken Burns is a national treasure. Dayton Duncan is one as well. Them as a team.... excellent. When I saw Dayton tear up when talking about the passing of Meriwether Lewis..... I knew immediately that he loved history deeply.
The fact that Steve Rinella can sit across a table and have an intelligent conversation with Burns and Duncan is fantastic. As a videographer/photographer and hunter this podcast episode gives me hope for the future. That is until the millennials and Gen Z take over.
love the gut hanging out. I expect Janis to have something to say about this. Beautiful podcast as expected. just like everything Ken Burns is associated with.
Fabulous discussion and interview - thanks for sharing. [Does anyone else love that Steve's shirt is unbuttoned at the bottom and he doesn't notice/ or care? 😉]
@@ronsmith1364 I’m very familiar with the Buffalo nickel. As a metal detectorist here on Martha’s Vineyard I’ve found coins ranging from 1590-today. Many foreign coins that were passed as currency before we had our own. From French to Spanish,east India trading, to Russian Japanese and Chinese coins.
These meateater podcasts that are reminiscent of the early days where theres only a few people talking are so much easier and more pleasant to listen to. Just my opinion.
I think the Netflix deal is over. The last 2 new seasons are on the meateater website for free. The latest uploads to UA-cam are from the previous seasons on the website. Cheers!
I’d be interested to hear Steve & Co.‘s updated views on the American Prairie Reserve. Edit: Burns is an amazing interview and a thoughtful man. It’s a bummer that he’s said things like, “the Republican Party is the party of white supremacy,” given that it’s not too constructive.
@@joshcc1974 there are a number things that are true that shouldn’t be said. I’m sure you could think of some. Not only are they not constructive, they can make the source sound ignorant.
Within the context in which he is speaking it made sense. That we as a culture will pick the things we agree regarding a certain topic and try to rewrite truths to the things we want to hide or cover up. Like the Civil War being about state rights. It's not fact, so to cover that past truth we retell the story to bring glory to what we do agree with. There isn't a white supremacist group in America that isn't republican. That isn't saying all Republicans are white supremacist, it's stating a simple fact that there agendas align. Which is a truth people would rather rewrite to bring glory to what they do believe in.
And to be fair he even called out Lincoln for attempting to send slaves back to African or even Puerto Rico yet we still see him as the freer of man. He calls it how it is.
Their discussion (1:18ish) about killing the things we love makes me think of all the subdivisions you drive by that are named things like "Deer Meadows" or "Twin Pines"...they are named for the things that were destroyed to build that housing. The other thing that strikes me about their discussion of our need to make things binary...I feel like the current emphasis in our education system on STEM subjects exacerbates this problem. We want to make everything into a math problem with a definitive solution, and we are encouraging kids to think that way, rather than embracing subjects like social studies and being willing to devote the time and effort required to understand the complexities of humanity.
Used to love Burns until he went on CNN comparing Tucker C to Nazis and Soviets because he released actual footage of J6…claimed he was “trying to rewrite history.” Wish I had actual footage of the stories Ken spins.
Thanks, Easy on Leonardo, he invented the tank and disected human cadavers! I wouldn't piss off his ghost! Lol! About Mr. Burns historical chronicles, meat and America, itd be great if he did a tribute to the founding of Florida, the Native Americans of the area interactions with European powers, the violent struggles of all parties (French, Spanish and Native Americans), the early documentation of the people, flora and fauna (Jaques LaMoyne of Ribault's landing 1564) , the saga of conquest and most importantly Bar-be-que (aka Barbacoa from Spanish translation). It be a good story!
Ken says around 1:35:00 or so that “Newton and Einstein had calculus, Da Vinci did not” Ken most likely knows this, but for any listeners, Newton didn’t only “have calculus” Isaac Newton invented calculus in his spare time.
Ken Burns is a highly talented storyteller of historical issues. As a college professor in my research I've unfortunately failed to validate some of his overarching assertions about the civil war and the revolutionary war. I just can't make all of them align with the complete body of historical writings and occurrences. Whatever the reason for his chosen narrative, it's unfortunate that the series' are missing important historical information that would benefit the American audience.
One of the things I like most about this Meateater series is the way the stories are told. Ken Burns is one of best American story tellers IMO. This episode does not disappoint.
Ken and his daughter told some Big lies in when they see us. Burns is not to be trusted
I like to add Dayton Duncan to the team. Ken’s films are what they are, because of the Burns, Duncan partnership.
Ken Burns - I have never jumped to watch (or listen) to one of the meat eater pods fast enough. Thanks all.
Wow. I finally watched the whole thing after two false starts trying to listen to it in the car and I'll say, this is the best podcast on this channel so far. You have to watch it with full concentration and a cup, or three, of a favored warm beverage. I now think of it as a companion piece to the Ken Burns film.
Steven wept after getting to the end of The Vietnam War series. The same thing happened to me. It's a gruelling but necessary look at the senselessness of war and how it sometimes has to be waged.
You got these three intellectuals talking.
Each filling in words like husband and wives do for each other.
Beautiful conversations !
A marriage of passions.
when seeing this thumbnail did everyone else think "Steve talking about buffalo again.... "Ken BURNS?!?!" *clicks play*
@@nicholasthompson5325yeah....I hate when journalists are actually journalists too
I’ve never clicked faster in my entire life
@@nicholasthompson5325 hahaha just write "I am emotionally unstable" on your forehead instead
Are you a wizard?
That is exactly what happened.
Yuuuuuuuup
This is the greatest podcast Steve has ever done. Truly phenomenal.
Ken Burns is truly a national treasure. A genius film maker and great american. Great work in getting him on your podcast Steve. You my friend are a great storyteller in your own right. I very much look forward to your drop every Monday. I love how you mix great subject matter along with hunting, fishing and the great outdoors. I appreciate you brother!
I met Ken Burns 13 years ago when I was 14 and he was legit the nicest, smartest guy who put up with a dipshit middle schooler very well. Always happy when he release a new doc!
Lewis and clack film best ever. Have watched it over 10 times and made me read books about them.
Ken Burns doing a Leonardo doc. Wow…great news.
The highlight of my trip to Milan was the Last Supper. The 15 minutes spent with that painting, I’ll never forget.
Best episode you guys have ever done. Ken Burns is a national treasure.
No he isn't. Burns is very talented in his craft but got so many facts and narratives wrong. Bob Gibson and Ty Cobb deserve posthumous apologies for his false characterizations.
I was just about to say the same thing. KB has done some of the best documentaries of all time and Steve does a great job of hosting him and Mr. Duncan.
Not sure there's any such thing as a perfect National Treasure. Like all mankind, they share the ills and faults common to all humanity. In fact, that makes them even more valuable as a Treasure.
What a great conversation! Love that Burns (and Steven and Dayton) talk about how things are NOT simply binary and that there is extreme complexity in all of these stories. Large societal issues are complex and man has struggles along the way. Can't wait for this film.
Well said man.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Have Ken on again.
The West…”it’s not full”. So tragically true! I lived 5 years in Kansas (1957) as a child & never saw a buffalo, elk, antelope. I do remember prairie dogs (now gone) and meadowlarks - but really just wheat fields and oil wells. I was able to drive across our country in my late 60’s & saw prairie grasslands for the first time in Theodore Roosevelt National Park. Ken Burns is truly a national treasure! Learning history is vitally important for understanding ourselves and our world.
So much was lost when the west was either turned into farmland or grazing ranches. It's a good thing the American Bison Society recognized the insanity of exterminating the buffalo and replacing them with cattle.
Love this series. Thank you ! Thank You ! for providing these on UA-cam...
Ken Burns is a creative and educational genius. Cannot wait to see The American Revolution.
As you hear of Louis and Clarks expeditions I can't help but think of my own family's Adventure in 1637 when our first American grandfather crossed the Atlantic with his mother and brother when he was just 17 years old, as a Pilgrim from Leiden Holland. He signed as an indentured servant for twenty years to pay for his trip. And so the Spooner family became American.
Ken Burns is a legend. Thank you for all the work you've done and the knowledge you continue spread to the American population
Steve you will win an award fr this Podcast. I am convinced. I a enammered by the guests and you in this interview. Enjoying every second.
56:00 i like how steve brings up the use of the word buffalo in the title of the doc. i'm relatively new to much of this stuff, caring about buffalo, steve rinella's podcast and books, etc. but one thing i do know is there are some people out there who are funny about the word buffalo. glad rinella brought that up. keep up the good work steven. you've got a non-hunting fan in me. thanks for the information you're spreading.
I’m so pumped for the american revolution. The war, country music, Vietnam way, the west, etc are some of the best documentaries I’ve ever seen.
What an incredible episode! An absolute pleasure to view.
What eloquent gentlemen to have as guests, didn't think I would watch in one sitting but it flew by. Their ability to paint a picture with words is incredible. I love the comment about why "buffalo"; I'm in agreement with Ken that while calling them Bison vs. buffalo is a valid argument it's sort of an overdone argument given that historically in American culture we have consistently referenced them as Buffalo. Especially in pop culture; buffalo Bill, Buffalo nickel etc.,.
This podcast always leaving me feeling smarter (Bahamas ❤)
now i know why i never spend much time watching this guys work
Amazing Podcast! I could listen to Ken, Dayton, and Steven talk about stuff all day, I learn so much, and wonder why we don't learn these facts in school?
Ken Burns is the MASTER of documentaries!
Couldn’t think of two people I’d want to listen to more. Such great historical knowledge.
Great podcast. Love it! Except what county was mentioned was old Yugoslavia not Hungary.
I cannot wait to see his movie.
Amazing interview. Big fan of Ken Burns work.
Awesome podcast! Watch/listen to the whole thing!
Great episode. I'm bummed that the American Buffalo film doesn't premier until October. I'll definitely forget to look out for it by then.
I'll remind you, if you remind me!
Just put a reminder on your phone's calendar
Getting pretty close
This was an amazing episode. Well done!
One of your best Mr. Rinella ....thanks for everything meateater!!
This was such a fantastic listen. Cheers to Ken and his whole team. As well as one for steve and his team.
That story about the mountains opening up and taking the last buffalo always makes me teary eyed. Can't wait for the film!
I cannot wait to see his Revolutionary War film. I've watched Baseball, Lewis and Clark, and The Civil War.....many many times. Ken Burns is a national treasure. Dayton Duncan is one as well. Them as a team.... excellent.
When I saw Dayton tear up when talking about the passing of Meriwether Lewis..... I knew immediately that he loved history deeply.
Holy shit Ken Burns?! What a phenomenal guest!
My uncle lived in Walpole NH and was actually neighbors with Ken Burns for a while in the 90s. He had nothing but nice things to say about him.
The fact that Steve Rinella can sit across a table and have an intelligent conversation with Burns and Duncan is fantastic. As a videographer/photographer and hunter this podcast episode gives me hope for the future. That is until the millennials and Gen Z take over.
As usual, great freaking content. Well done!
This is the most moving Meateater podcast yet.
The Civil War is probably my all time favorite film. The music gets me in the feels every single time i hear it.
Awesome interview I hung on every word!
love the gut hanging out.
I expect Janis to have something to say about this.
Beautiful podcast as expected. just like everything Ken Burns is associated with.
Was it the whole time? I literally didn't notice til the last couple of minutes but I was mostly listening today, not watching
Steve is the best story teller in modern times
An all star cast. Thank you!
My first sighting of a Bison was here on the North shore of Kaua'i! There is a large Bison ranch with 30-40 Bison in the town of Hanalei HI.!
The Ken Burns documentary on that massive Idaho forest fire is fascinating.
Thank you guys so much for this.
Now that's a podcast. Gorgeous work!
Great interview!
Great pod. Steve's belly button hangin' out the whole time, staring down Burns like 👁
Great discussion!
Would love to see a Ken Burns film on the construction of the transcontinental railroad.
What type of pelt is Ken wearing on his dome?
He is way too humble. “Any idiot” could create a documentary about the civil war. It’s genius that created ‘The Civil War’ documentary.
It might be the greatest documentary every, up there with his baseball documentary.
Great interview
Fabulous discussion and interview - thanks for sharing. [Does anyone else love that Steve's shirt is unbuttoned at the bottom and he doesn't notice/ or care? 😉]
Was wondering if anyone else picked up on that. At times it was tough to seriously listen to Steve when his belly button is staring right at you😂
Great surprise! Ken burns is an American treasure.
Excellent work
Would love to see Ken delve into the coins/currency of the early America era’s
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_nickel
@@ronsmith1364 I’m very familiar with the Buffalo nickel. As a metal detectorist here on Martha’s Vineyard I’ve found coins ranging from 1590-today. Many foreign coins that were passed as currency before we had our own. From French to Spanish,east India trading, to Russian Japanese and Chinese coins.
These meateater podcasts that are reminiscent of the early days where theres only a few people talking are so much easier and more pleasant to listen to. Just my opinion.
I saw this and immediately shouted “with Ken Burns?!”
best podcast by far amazing
Great things are not accomplished by perfect people, but rather by imperfect people in spite of their imperfections.
Guilford Courthouse is in NORTH Carolina.
Good work brudda. Respect
O que eu quero saber, é quando vão liberar novas temporadas ou ao menos todas as temporadas na Netflix? Aqui no Brasil, eu adoro seu programa.
Eles colocaram dois episódios, acredito, no UA-cam agora. da 11ª temporada
I think the Netflix deal is over. The last 2 new seasons are on the meateater website for free. The latest uploads to UA-cam are from the previous seasons on the website. Cheers!
Top notch as usual
I’d be interested to hear Steve & Co.‘s updated views on the American Prairie Reserve.
Edit: Burns is an amazing interview and a thoughtful man. It’s a bummer that he’s said things like, “the Republican Party is the party of white supremacy,” given that it’s not too constructive.
Not constructive but it is true.
@@joshcc1974 there are a number things that are true that shouldn’t be said. I’m sure you could think of some. Not only are they not constructive, they can make the source sound ignorant.
@@joshcc1974😂😂 stop watching CNN.
Within the context in which he is speaking it made sense. That we as a culture will pick the things we agree regarding a certain topic and try to rewrite truths to the things we want to hide or cover up. Like the Civil War being about state rights. It's not fact, so to cover that past truth we retell the story to bring glory to what we do agree with. There isn't a white supremacist group in America that isn't republican. That isn't saying all Republicans are white supremacist, it's stating a simple fact that there agendas align. Which is a truth people would rather rewrite to bring glory to what they do believe in.
And to be fair he even called out Lincoln for attempting to send slaves back to African or even Puerto Rico yet we still see him as the freer of man. He calls it how it is.
8:30 I don't remember anything about the klan in Gone With The Wind.
Best interview you have ever done!
Thank you for this. 👍
Steve, you dont mention The History of Baseball, some of Kens best work
Kens Burns loves to hear himself talk. “Listen to me. What I say is important, because I say so!”
He is a little overrated. I know I'll get thumbs downed into oblivion, but he's annoying.
Their discussion (1:18ish) about killing the things we love makes me think of all the subdivisions you drive by that are named things like "Deer Meadows" or "Twin Pines"...they are named for the things that were destroyed to build that housing. The other thing that strikes me about their discussion of our need to make things binary...I feel like the current emphasis in our education system on STEM subjects exacerbates this problem. We want to make everything into a math problem with a definitive solution, and we are encouraging kids to think that way, rather than embracing subjects like social studies and being willing to devote the time and effort required to understand the complexities of humanity.
American history - Thank You
Used to love Burns until he went on CNN comparing Tucker C to Nazis and Soviets because he released actual footage of J6…claimed he was “trying to rewrite history.” Wish I had actual footage of the stories Ken spins.
Kind of Steve to lend the guest a muskrat hat
Underrated comment!
Is leaving the last button of the shirt undone to expose the belly button a power move, Steve? I respect it.
I actually thought Duncan was Werner Herzog for like 15 minutes until he finally started talking. lol
Thank you for a very interesting interview. Imagine, a big game hunter not talking about Sasquatch or high weirdness.
excellent!!
Thanks,
Easy on Leonardo, he invented the tank and disected human cadavers! I wouldn't piss off his ghost! Lol!
About Mr. Burns historical chronicles, meat and America, itd be great if he did a tribute to the founding of Florida, the Native Americans of the area interactions with European powers, the violent struggles of all parties (French, Spanish and Native Americans), the early documentation of the people, flora and fauna (Jaques LaMoyne of Ribault's landing 1564) , the saga of conquest and most importantly Bar-be-que (aka Barbacoa from Spanish translation).
It be a good story!
was anyone else shocked that KB isnt over 100 years old?
I like Ken Burns for his truth telling. He doesn't brook any Bullshit when it comes to Conservative Revisionists trying to create a false narrative.
Perfect!
Greg Matthews "Heart of the Country". Great Buffalo novel!
Baseball is his best documentary imo.
Ken says around 1:35:00 or so that “Newton and Einstein had calculus, Da Vinci did not” Ken most likely knows this, but for any listeners, Newton didn’t only “have calculus” Isaac Newton invented calculus in his spare time.
Ah, the Petroleum Post-Colonial Wars. I look forward to a really even-handed analysis then.
i think that we should be raising bison. They are a more hearty stock than cattle. They can endure the bitterness of winter.
Great work Steve!
The central park five were guilty as hell. Just putting that out there
I need that tee Ken!!!!
Ken f’ing Burns! 🤘🏾
Now we know what Robert California got into after he left Sabre.
Underrated comment
Guilford County is in North Carolina, not South Carolina.
Ken Burns is a highly talented storyteller of historical issues. As a college professor in my research I've unfortunately failed to validate some of his overarching assertions about the civil war and the revolutionary war. I just can't make all of them align with the complete body of historical writings and occurrences. Whatever the reason for his chosen narrative, it's unfortunate that the series' are missing important historical information that would benefit the American audience.
Agree as many should.
Ken Burns is like the 7th or 8th member of The Byrds. Am I wrong?
You didn't introduce Baseball!?