I always keep in mind that you just built this house about 3 years ago and established this whole farm on your own together. It's absolutely Incredible!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Yeah I'd imagine it would after all the work put into establishing what you have. Time really does fly. I remember when I first found your channel at the old house looking at your trees and then out of the blue hearing you say you were moving. I couldn't believe it. Like packing up and moving away from your children or something but in this relatively short amount of time you've built a whole new life out there in Whitman.
@@jonnyhawt8973 hey thanks for sticking in there with us this whole time. We have a lot of new folks joining us these days, but we really love hearing from the "old schoolers"!
Thx for showing us your hard work in this beautiful farmstead. I love your videos, I love the music, really I love to see all the animals and flora you have! Regards friends!
Hey Daryl! Rosie really is a cool goat. She acts more like a dog than a goat....until she gets anywhere near the fruit trees! Now to get that pond going for some truly home-made crawfish. Just a little jealous of that BTW....
I'm new to your channel, just wanted to say terrific camera work. I hope everyone watching appreciates just how much time it takes to set a camera up and move it around as often as you do and still get some work done! So thanks, I'll keep watching.
Thank you so much Leo! It does take a lot to get the videos together and we have gotten so much better over the years. You may not want to watch our earlier videos lol ;) Glad you found the channel!
Hi friends! we love seeing your long term plans come into play! That harvesting notch really helps out in times like these. im sure that bird netting will suffice. And the organza bags. Fortunately our birds havent noticed our peaches... yet! Our RSI 1 year old FL prince has about 10 decent size peaches on it. we thinned out about ⅔ of the peaches it wanted to produce! they are a nice color like yours and are just about to harvest in the next week or 2! Oh and hi Rosie! such a loving little goat 🥰
Hey Aaron! I'm so glad to hear that peach from Reid is doing well for you. It's amazing how much a difference that makes in the production of the trees. We're seeing the same in some of the other stone fruit that we have producing for the first time. The Santa Rosa plum trees are yielding in year 2 when the other trees we've planted (on other root stocks) took 3 years or more before first fruit set.
I am not sure about how that would work for them. But I can tell you that doesn't work in florida. The more food thats there the more animals that show up.
Great question/suggestion Adnan and you're actually seeing the results of that test. Our 3 everbearing mulberry trees are immediately adjacent to these peach trees (the pic of the half eaten peach is about 20' from those trees) and it doesn't seem to be helping on that front. Even with them both in full production. There is purple bird poop everywhere, so they're definitely eating those, but they're also eating the peaches. A bit frustrating, but the bird netting works every time.
Totally agree Megan! We have a bird bath right next to our peach trees and at first we were hopeful that was going to be the case. I'm sure they would have gotten to more if we didn't have the water there.
I agree about the bags. I had bags on the pears I had last season before we removed the tree and the birds did not care - went right into the fruit. Thanks for this tip which I know I will need for the grapes.
I just ordered netting a couple of days ago because the birds were wrecking havoc on my hard, unripe peaches, and I went through a full pack of 100 organza bags, just to try to dissuade them because it's all I had, sacrificing a lot of fruit. It's definitely a learning experience, because I got greedy and didn't thin near as much as I should have and just don't have the fruit size. Lesson learned for next year and beyond, and I'll look forward to your update about the nylon netting with bigger holes. Not sure bird water will help but I brought out more here too, and even had to bag my cherry tomato after having fruit pecked up...The birds are thirsty this year!
Hey Frances! I'm confident it's the water they're going after, but we simply can't put out enough to deter them from eating the peaches. Hence the bird netting. The good news is, we have yet to have a bird die in the netting (running on 6 years now with no losses), so at least it's harmless for them. Plus, we keep most of the fruit! We're in the same boat with the tomatoes, hence the bird netting over the garden beds as well! Like you, we're the only game in town for these critters and they here dinner bells when they see the produce!
sorry I missed your podcast yesterday, I did have a question this morning when my wife, Camille and i watched the replay with our morning coffee. How is your farm handling all of these windy days?! it seems like every other day we've had some serious winds blowing all our trees around. any fruit dropping off the mulberries? or other trees? any branches or TREES breaking?!
Great question Aaron and the only thing we are dealing with because of the wind is breakage on our grapevines. With them only being 2 years old, they didn't have the stable vines on the 3' wire, so the wind is breaking off the new shoots on as they get about 2-3' long. They're surviving ok, but we're having to take extra care securing the vines.
No, we don't try to grow these from seed. The trees we have are grafted trees, so the seeds will not be "true to type". In other words, they won't be the peach tree we have, rather something all together different.
We've tried everything and actually have a bird bath we keep filled about 10' from our peaches (you'll see us filling it during our morning chores). On the old farm we tried multiple watering spots around our 1 peach tree and if anything it seemed to spur them on! I imagine it's a combination of water and a meal that gets them going after them.
Just found your channel, this is pretty cool. I'm looking to set up an orchard on three acres, it's pretty much desert out here with tumbleweeds growing here and there where I am in colorado. But we have lots of irrigation water. I was thinking about planting rows of grass between the trees and irrigating the pathways. But I see you have mulch?? Dirt??? Is there a reason why you set things up how you did? Any regrets?
Glad you're enjoying the content and also that you're taking advantage of that 3 acres of land for fruit production. Your plan for grass between the orchard rows is solid. If we had a way of doing that here you would see the same (we have restrictions on how much water we can use for irrigation like that). In fact, the width of the rows between the trees is specifically designed to allow our mower to make a single pass to keep weeds mowed down as they come up with our occasional rain events. Just be sure to mulch nice and heavy in the orchard rows, so you don't see competition between the tree roots and the grass. That's particularly important when they're young, but with desert climates like this you really want to limit any competition with those trees if they struggle a bit during the hottest/driest months of the year.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm thanks for taking the time to write me back in so much detail. I'm going to be binge watching your channel learning as much as I can! Thank you
The problem with this netting is it is pretty much one time use and throw. I couldn't recover the net after a season from the tree, its either torn by wind & tree branches or its all knotted and mingled up.
It can be tough to get more than one use out of it. We can usually salvage it and get at least 2 seasons out of it, but it's definitely not a long term fix.
In Seattle we have bluejays love picking on Asian pears and cherries!!! Lots of huge chipmunks making havoc on my peaches also. You guys are awesome 😎!
Thanks Brandon! I can just see those chipmunks eating a peach.... seems to always be something we have to battle with just to get some of what we grow.
Use trellis netting .. sold at hydroponic shops. 👋 in major fruit farms up north, we have shotgun blasters, which are a device which has a timer and shoots a shotgun shell blast every few hours to scare birds. Best I have seen and i do commercial farming kinda.
Excellent suggestion on this one. We're tying to source the heavier netting and think we've found a better option with this nylon netting that is pre-cut on amazon. It's not quite the same strength as some trellis netting, so that may be an even better option. I would love to use a shotgun blast, but I think the neighbors might frown on that! :)
Great question! We have been talking about doing that and just need to do it! We are wanting to put together a before/after video of different areas and trees as well...
Have you tryed the aluminum pie pans? Take 2 put some drt beans in it. Seal them together haing them in the tree the wind makes them make noise. And what the pecan people use for squirrel's. Is a propane Canon. It has a timer and goes off at random times all during the day.
@@alfredopampanga9356 with our very hot summers we can only prune in the Winter, so we prune primarily for shape (open center) and to maintain the balance of the tree (no low hanging/crossing/broken branches). We try to keep as much of last year's growth as we can as this is where the production is.
Yes, we have 3 pomegranate trees here. We have a Wonderful, an Angel Red and a Grenada. They are all fruiting this year so hopefully we will get a good harvest!
Glad you're enjoying the content. We have seen temps around 125 (F) during our hottest days of summer, but usually sit around 105 - 110 as typical daily highs trailing Phoenix by about 5-6 degrees.
I had kangaroo mice helping themselves. I used an “e” collar I had from when My dog hurt himself and put that upside down around the trunk…..so far…..WINNING! 😉 trick we used on boat dock lines, just bigger.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Thankfully, I have had the collar for years. I have a weird superstition about medical equipment…if I keep it I won’t need it! 🤣So far so good!!
Weird how the birds aren't all over the mulberries instead of peaches. do they go after mulberries? If not, will you train them to? BTW, overripe mulberries are supposed to be loaded with sugars. And wild yeast, of course :) hasta
I think we have birds living in the mulberry trees and eat those too! There are just so many mulberries that we get a lot. The birds get to a lot of the Shangri La mulberries right now with the trees not producing very heavy yet.
What is the netting (company name/variety) and how do you get it over the top? I have a cherry tree and have no way of getting the netting over the top. Help me! Any ideas?
Hey Kenn. We're leaning towards using the pre-cut, square mesh nets that we found on Amazon and are trying this year for the first time. So far they are doing really well and they come in sizes up to 50' x 50'. Shy of using ladders to get the netting over very tall trees, I wouldn't be able to say how to get it up there. We don't plan on allowing our trees to get over 10' tall or so. Here is the link to the ones we're using now; amzn.to/3vV7z12
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Thank you so much appreciate your information you guys are looking good over there places looking nice things are growing anyway thank you for responding I appreciate you guys
Hey Victoria. We have 2 different types of netting on the trees right now. We have always used 1/2" plastic netting in the past, but we're transitioning to a 3/4" nylon netting with the hopes it will last a bit longer. I'll link to the nylon netting for you here, so you can see what we're moving towards; amzn.to/3vV7z12
Yeah, we have a bird bath about 10' from our peach trees (you'll see us filling it early on in this episode) and they still seem to go after the peaches. I'm sure it's the water they're after, but we can't seem to give them enough elsewhere to stop them.
That seems to be what we're seeing with them here also. They can clearly jump the perimeter fence, but once they're on property they seem to keep their noses down as we have not caught them on the cameras we have facing the pasture.
I found the best way of stopping the birds 🐦 🍑 from eating my peaches 🍑 was to buy them in a can from Woolworths supper store’s. I looked the tin of peaches over a to my delight no bird damage. lol lol 😆
Oh my goodness! That totally reminds me of a song that goes something like this....Millions of peaches, peaches for me. Millions of peaches, peaches for free. Peaches come from a can, there were put there by a man.....
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm everything happens for a reason. My comment turned on a little light 💡. Now sadly I hafto turn my lights of its 10:20 pm. Here. Good night from Asgard. 🌍
I used cage-wire for my hens but it didn't last two years underground. Stainless is over double the price but IDK if it lasts the 10 years I'd expect from it. Video idea: I think the Giant Pumpkin YT channels are ignoring genotype potential. I had planted 500 luffs seeds very-very-early & about 200 survived seedling root rot, ~50 were deformed seedlings, ~50 had iron deficiencies from late seedling root rot, the selection from 200 to 30 was easy, but selecting from 30 to 16 was sad, & 16 to 8 was difficult b/c the plants had perfect roots(sad). My 8 now are all over 8ft & the longest is probably 16ft, 5/8.
Holy cow Bob, that is a lot of seedlings to work through! We haven't tried anything like that before, but I imagine the seeds from that fruit will be a goldmine for you in future plantings!
We sell eggs, chicken and beef (that one we broker for our family who ranches cattle). We have also sold seasonal fruit from the old farm when it was in production. We don't have the production on the new trees yet, but we planted extra peach, apple, mulberry, blackberry, jujube and pear trees for commercial production in the future. We're trying to figure out how deep we want to go with annual veggie production, but we're not interested in the labor involved to do a lot of veg.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I have found Zucchini to be pretty productive and low labor. They only produce for about 2 months here but they might be an option for you. No pruning, no training, etc. They just produce and are delicious. I absolutely love tomatoes but I spend hours pruning and tying them to the trellis.
@@TheFatTheist Zucchini are one of our all time favorites as well. It's amazing how sweet they taste when you grow them yourself! You're much more diligent than we are with the tomatoes. Ours are basically taking over the beds they're in right now!!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm The poor soil, expensive water, searing heet in summer, few frost knights in winter, not enough cold hours in winter, short day light in summer and hungry birds limit your choice and put you at a disadvantage when competing with other areas.
Protecting fruit from birds: Birds peck at fruit for water. They dont eat peaches. They prefer seeds and bugs almost universally. If you provide a fresh water fountain / bird bath they wont peck your produce! I even have hummingbirds that come and play in the water as I water my garden. I leave terra cotta bowls of water out for the birds - the terra cotta drain very slowly over a couple of days, which means every time I water them it's fresh. I'm working on a pond with a fountain now, so there will be no worry in the future. Remember if it's stagnant water or still the birds will still go to the fruit. Has to be clean, and preferably flowing water.
We've tried water with our peach trees before and it doesn't seem to stop them. You'll see us filling a bird bath that is about 10' from our peach trees in the beginning of this video and we still see the damage. I'm confident you're correct in that they're still going at them for the water, but we can't seem to get them to stop. Now we haven't tried flowing water, but that's not on the plans as of yet. Maybe something to add to the list though, based on your suggestion.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm well dang. maybe feeders too? I have a lot of feeders of differing seeds. Maybe that plus flowing water will keep them at bay? Let us know if you figure something else out! (Oh I also have german shepherds and chickens that run around but they are outside of my growing area most of the time - maybe that's something).
@@bjmurrey we are looking into a couple different types of dogs, one being more of a "ratter" that might be able to help with both the birds and also the rabbits and squirrels. Fingers crossed!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm My german shepherds catch squirrels and rabbits and bring them to me unharmed! They are a very smart breed, and my free-range hens roost over by dog houses. But I have seen a lot of garden-yorkies on the youtubes though they aren't my favorite (I like big dogs) they are small enough and fast enough to dart around and catch stuff without much damage. Funny how much a dog can help in the garden!
Are you sure they're birds? Maybe your being singled-out because of God's success blessings and are being attacked with A.I. bird drones by the control freaks calling themselves Homeless Securities.
See now I was thinking we had bunnies climbing the trees, getting drunk on peach wine and falling over themselves as they returned to their dens underneath our woodchip piles. Silly me....
I always keep in mind that you just built this house about 3 years ago and established this whole farm on your own together. It's absolutely Incredible!
Hey Jonny. It seems like forever ago right now, but that's correct. Where I'm sitting right now was hard-pan, desert scrub just over 3 years ago.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Yeah I'd imagine it would after all the work put into establishing what you have. Time really does fly. I remember when I first found your channel at the old house looking at your trees and then out of the blue hearing you say you were moving. I couldn't believe it. Like packing up and moving away from your children or something but in this relatively short amount of time you've built a whole new life out there in Whitman.
@@jonnyhawt8973 hey thanks for sticking in there with us this whole time. We have a lot of new folks joining us these days, but we really love hearing from the "old schoolers"!
Thx for showing us your hard work in this beautiful farmstead. I love your videos, I love the music, really I love to see all the animals and flora you have! Regards friends!
Thanks Jonn. We're enjoying the process and being able to share it with everyone in the hopes we can encourage others to do the same.
You two are truly creating a desert paradise. The crawfish were delicious. Sweet Rosie has a great personality.
Hey Daryl! Rosie really is a cool goat. She acts more like a dog than a goat....until she gets anywhere near the fruit trees! Now to get that pond going for some truly home-made crawfish. Just a little jealous of that BTW....
I'm new to your channel, just wanted to say terrific camera work. I hope everyone watching appreciates just how much time it takes to set a camera up and move it around as often as you do and still get some work done! So thanks, I'll keep watching.
Thank you so much Leo! It does take a lot to get the videos together and we have gotten so much better over the years. You may not want to watch our earlier videos lol ;) Glad you found the channel!
"Did you just say what we doo doo" 🤣🤣
Yup, what we doo-doo. :) :)
Goat was like i will eat whatever you give me mom and dad
She is so funny and seems to eat all the time! She loves fruit!
I like the “greener pastures” joke Duane…very clever lol
You saw what I did there. ;)
Hi friends! we love seeing your long term plans come into play! That harvesting notch really helps out in times like these. im sure that bird netting will suffice. And the organza bags. Fortunately our birds havent noticed our peaches... yet! Our RSI 1 year old FL prince has about 10 decent size peaches on it. we thinned out about ⅔ of the peaches it wanted to produce! they are a nice color like yours and are just about to harvest in the next week or 2! Oh and hi Rosie! such a loving little goat 🥰
Hey Aaron! I'm so glad to hear that peach from Reid is doing well for you. It's amazing how much a difference that makes in the production of the trees. We're seeing the same in some of the other stone fruit that we have producing for the first time. The Santa Rosa plum trees are yielding in year 2 when the other trees we've planted (on other root stocks) took 3 years or more before first fruit set.
I just found you, and well we instantly hit it off, just so you know, you are one of my new friends!
Hey Adam, glad you found us. Hopefully we'll stay friends for years to come! ;)
Why dont you plant extra mulberries and other fruits that do not require a lot of inputs ? as sacrificial fruit trees for these birds ?
I am not sure about how that would work for them.
But I can tell you that doesn't work in florida. The more food thats there the more animals that show up.
Great question/suggestion Adnan and you're actually seeing the results of that test. Our 3 everbearing mulberry trees are immediately adjacent to these peach trees (the pic of the half eaten peach is about 20' from those trees) and it doesn't seem to be helping on that front. Even with them both in full production. There is purple bird poop everywhere, so they're definitely eating those, but they're also eating the peaches. A bit frustrating, but the bird netting works every time.
we grow a food forest and once we put up shallow bird baths the birds stopped pecking our fruit. i think they are thirsty
Totally agree Megan! We have a bird bath right next to our peach trees and at first we were hopeful that was going to be the case. I'm sure they would have gotten to more if we didn't have the water there.
I agree about the bags. I had bags on the pears I had last season before we removed the tree and the birds did not care - went right into the fruit. Thanks for this tip which I know I will need for the grapes.
Hey Linda! It's funny how certain fruit the organza bags work great and others they go right through. We net our grapes as well.
Another Excellent video. I am fan of
Edge of Nowhere Farm.
Hey there Abid. Thank you for always being so encouraging to us!!
I just ordered netting a couple of days ago because the birds were wrecking havoc on my hard, unripe peaches, and I went through a full pack of 100 organza bags, just to try to dissuade them because it's all I had, sacrificing a lot of fruit. It's definitely a learning experience, because I got greedy and didn't thin near as much as I should have and just don't have the fruit size. Lesson learned for next year and beyond, and I'll look forward to your update about the nylon netting with bigger holes. Not sure bird water will help but I brought out more here too, and even had to bag my cherry tomato after having fruit pecked up...The birds are thirsty this year!
Hey Frances! I'm confident it's the water they're going after, but we simply can't put out enough to deter them from eating the peaches. Hence the bird netting. The good news is, we have yet to have a bird die in the netting (running on 6 years now with no losses), so at least it's harmless for them. Plus, we keep most of the fruit! We're in the same boat with the tomatoes, hence the bird netting over the garden beds as well! Like you, we're the only game in town for these critters and they here dinner bells when they see the produce!
sorry I missed your podcast yesterday, I did have a question this morning when my wife, Camille and i watched the replay with our morning coffee. How is your farm handling all of these windy days?! it seems like every other day we've had some serious winds blowing all our trees around. any fruit dropping off the mulberries? or other trees? any branches or TREES breaking?!
Great question Aaron and the only thing we are dealing with because of the wind is breakage on our grapevines. With them only being 2 years old, they didn't have the stable vines on the 3' wire, so the wind is breaking off the new shoots on as they get about 2-3' long. They're surviving ok, but we're having to take extra care securing the vines.
The fruit you pull off the trees...do you save the seeds and try to root them?
No, we don't try to grow these from seed. The trees we have are grafted trees, so the seeds will not be "true to type". In other words, they won't be the peach tree we have, rather something all together different.
Hey there, What breed is your pet goat? Where do you get your bird netting? Thx. Jeff.
Hey Jeff, Rosie is a Mini Nubian. The bird netting we got from Amazon, I will link the 2 different types for you here.
amzn.to/3L0OcYG
amzn.to/3FwZ7s5
I heard birds do this to get water… at least for tomatoes, might be different for fruit. Maybe setting out a bird bath will help?
We've tried everything and actually have a bird bath we keep filled about 10' from our peaches (you'll see us filling it during our morning chores). On the old farm we tried multiple watering spots around our 1 peach tree and if anything it seemed to spur them on! I imagine it's a combination of water and a meal that gets them going after them.
Just found your channel, this is pretty cool. I'm looking to set up an orchard on three acres, it's pretty much desert out here with tumbleweeds growing here and there where I am in colorado. But we have lots of irrigation water. I was thinking about planting rows of grass between the trees and irrigating the pathways. But I see you have mulch?? Dirt??? Is there a reason why you set things up how you did? Any regrets?
Glad you're enjoying the content and also that you're taking advantage of that 3 acres of land for fruit production. Your plan for grass between the orchard rows is solid. If we had a way of doing that here you would see the same (we have restrictions on how much water we can use for irrigation like that). In fact, the width of the rows between the trees is specifically designed to allow our mower to make a single pass to keep weeds mowed down as they come up with our occasional rain events. Just be sure to mulch nice and heavy in the orchard rows, so you don't see competition between the tree roots and the grass. That's particularly important when they're young, but with desert climates like this you really want to limit any competition with those trees if they struggle a bit during the hottest/driest months of the year.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm thanks for taking the time to write me back in so much detail. I'm going to be binge watching your channel learning as much as I can! Thank you
@@Scooby-Snacks sure thing. Comment and question as you go and we'll do what we can to answer them!
The problem with this netting is it is pretty much one time use and throw. I couldn't recover the net after a season from the tree, its either torn by wind & tree branches or its all knotted and mingled up.
It can be tough to get more than one use out of it. We can usually salvage it and get at least 2 seasons out of it, but it's definitely not a long term fix.
In Seattle we have bluejays love picking on Asian pears and cherries!!!
Lots of huge chipmunks making havoc on my peaches also.
You guys are awesome 😎!
Thanks Brandon! I can just see those chipmunks eating a peach.... seems to always be something we have to battle with just to get some of what we grow.
Use trellis netting .. sold at hydroponic shops. 👋 in major fruit farms up north, we have shotgun blasters, which are a device which has a timer and shoots a shotgun shell blast every few hours to scare birds. Best I have seen and i do commercial farming kinda.
Ah cool you got it 👍
Excellent suggestion on this one. We're tying to source the heavier netting and think we've found a better option with this nylon netting that is pre-cut on amazon. It's not quite the same strength as some trellis netting, so that may be an even better option. I would love to use a shotgun blast, but I think the neighbors might frown on that! :)
Are you going to update your intro drone footage? It's awesome but wow your trees have grown so much since filming!
Great question! We have been talking about doing that and just need to do it! We are wanting to put together a before/after video of different areas and trees as well...
Have you tryed the aluminum pie pans? Take 2 put some drt beans in it. Seal them together haing them in the tree the wind makes them make noise.
And what the pecan people use for squirrel's. Is a propane Canon.
It has a timer and goes off at random times all during the day.
We have not tried those! We get so much wind out here, they would constantly be moving and making noise to keep them away! Thanks for the suggestion!
The trees appear to be on dwarfing root stock and are well spaced from one another. Wish it were so simple in a backyard
These are actually all on semi-dwarf root stocks, but we prune heavily each year to maintain their size.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm thank you. Do you take off only current season growth in ?? Winter ? Or take off two seasons growth? Regards
@@alfredopampanga9356 with our very hot summers we can only prune in the Winter, so we prune primarily for shape (open center) and to maintain the balance of the tree (no low hanging/crossing/broken branches). We try to keep as much of last year's growth as we can as this is where the production is.
I remember on your old farm you have pomegranate. Do you grow it this farm?
Yes, we have 3 pomegranate trees here. We have a Wonderful, an Angel Red and a Grenada. They are all fruiting this year so hopefully we will get a good harvest!
Have you looked at white bird netting so the birds can see it and not get tangled in the netting
Fortunately we have not had any issues with birds getting tangled in the netting. Haven't seen white netting, have you had luck with using it?
I am wondering how hot it gets there ? Love your channel
Glad you're enjoying the content. We have seen temps around 125 (F) during our hottest days of summer, but usually sit around 105 - 110 as typical daily highs trailing Phoenix by about 5-6 degrees.
I had kangaroo mice helping themselves. I used an “e” collar I had from when My dog hurt himself and put that upside down around the trunk…..so far…..WINNING! 😉 trick we used on boat dock lines, just bigger.
Ok, now that is a really cool way of dealing with those mice! Fingers crossed the pup stays out of trouble at least until that harvest is completed!!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Thankfully, I have had the collar for years. I have a weird superstition about medical equipment…if I keep it I won’t need it! 🤣So far so good!!
@@motocowgirl04 right there with you on that one!!
Weird how the birds aren't all over the mulberries instead of peaches. do they go after mulberries? If not, will you train them to? BTW, overripe mulberries are supposed to be loaded with sugars. And wild yeast, of course :) hasta
I think we have birds living in the mulberry trees and eat those too! There are just so many mulberries that we get a lot. The birds get to a lot of the Shangri La mulberries right now with the trees not producing very heavy yet.
What was that tool you used to remove the t post
Hey Todd. They're called post pullers or t-post pullers. I'll leave a link to one on Amazon here for you;
amzn.to/3MliK9k
What is the netting (company name/variety) and how do you get it over the top? I have a cherry tree and have no way of getting the netting over the top. Help me! Any ideas?
Hey Kenn. We're leaning towards using the pre-cut, square mesh nets that we found on Amazon and are trying this year for the first time. So far they are doing really well and they come in sizes up to 50' x 50'. Shy of using ladders to get the netting over very tall trees, I wouldn't be able to say how to get it up there. We don't plan on allowing our trees to get over 10' tall or so. Here is the link to the ones we're using now;
amzn.to/3vV7z12
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm Thank you so much appreciate your information you guys are looking good over there places looking nice things are growing anyway thank you for responding I appreciate you guys
I used to hate having to cover trees with netting.
We are right with you there. The pre-cut, nylon netting is a bit easier to install than the plastic stuff, so we're hopeful that helps.
What size netting do you use on the peach tree? 1/2 inch?
Hey Victoria. We have 2 different types of netting on the trees right now. We have always used 1/2" plastic netting in the past, but we're transitioning to a 3/4" nylon netting with the hopes it will last a bit longer. I'll link to the nylon netting for you here, so you can see what we're moving towards;
amzn.to/3vV7z12
What is the deepest hole the pigs have made?
I think we're looking at that right now with their water pit and I would say it's pushing about 3' deep.
The birds need water, especially in those conditions.
Yeah, we have a bird bath about 10' from our peach trees (you'll see us filling it early on in this episode) and they still seem to go after the peaches. I'm sure it's the water they're after, but we can't seem to give them enough elsewhere to stop them.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm It's a shame really. Perhaps some birds will always go for the fruit. I hope your future fruit loss will be minimal!
Our coyotes do jump but they like to keep their head down to the ground. Can't be stealthy if your jumping around like your in the circus.
That seems to be what we're seeing with them here also. They can clearly jump the perimeter fence, but once they're on property they seem to keep their noses down as we have not caught them on the cameras we have facing the pasture.
I found the best way of stopping the birds 🐦 🍑 from eating my peaches 🍑 was to buy them in a can from Woolworths supper store’s. I looked the tin of peaches over a to my delight no bird damage. lol lol 😆
Oh my goodness! That totally reminds me of a song that goes something like this....Millions of peaches, peaches for me. Millions of peaches, peaches for free. Peaches come from a can, there were put there by a man.....
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm everything happens for a reason. My comment turned on a little light 💡. Now sadly I hafto turn my lights of its 10:20 pm. Here. Good night from Asgard. 🌍
I used cage-wire for my hens but it didn't last two years underground. Stainless is over double the price but IDK if it lasts the 10 years I'd expect from it.
Video idea: I think the Giant Pumpkin YT channels are ignoring genotype potential. I had planted 500 luffs seeds very-very-early & about 200 survived seedling root rot, ~50 were deformed seedlings, ~50 had iron deficiencies from late seedling root rot, the selection from 200 to 30 was easy, but selecting from 30 to 16 was sad, & 16 to 8 was difficult b/c the plants had perfect roots(sad). My 8 now are all over 8ft & the longest is probably 16ft, 5/8.
Holy cow Bob, that is a lot of seedlings to work through! We haven't tried anything like that before, but I imagine the seeds from that fruit will be a goldmine for you in future plantings!
Do you sell any produce other than pigs?
We sell eggs, chicken and beef (that one we broker for our family who ranches cattle). We have also sold seasonal fruit from the old farm when it was in production. We don't have the production on the new trees yet, but we planted extra peach, apple, mulberry, blackberry, jujube and pear trees for commercial production in the future. We're trying to figure out how deep we want to go with annual veggie production, but we're not interested in the labor involved to do a lot of veg.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm hey guys thanks for the reply.
@@hortichan2781 sure thing!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm I have found Zucchini to be pretty productive and low labor. They only produce for about 2 months here but they might be an option for you. No pruning, no training, etc. They just produce and are delicious. I absolutely love tomatoes but I spend hours pruning and tying them to the trellis.
@@TheFatTheist Zucchini are one of our all time favorites as well. It's amazing how sweet they taste when you grow them yourself! You're much more diligent than we are with the tomatoes. Ours are basically taking over the beds they're in right now!!
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Welcome to the desert!
Provide lots of water and fertilizer.
Fight weeds, deseases, birds, heat and frost.
And get inferior products.
You had me until inferior products. That we're starting to figure out!
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The poor soil, expensive water, searing heet in summer, few frost knights in winter, not enough cold hours in winter, short day light in summer and hungry birds limit your choice and put you at a disadvantage when competing with other areas.
i am sure you have been asked 1000 times. But where do you get your water.
Hey Mark! We are on our own well and the water comes from the Hassayampa River.
Parkour Rosie!
Right? She's a nut and is constantly doing Parkour on just about everything.
Protecting fruit from birds: Birds peck at fruit for water. They dont eat peaches. They prefer seeds and bugs almost universally. If you provide a fresh water fountain / bird bath they wont peck your produce! I even have hummingbirds that come and play in the water as I water my garden. I leave terra cotta bowls of water out for the birds - the terra cotta drain very slowly over a couple of days, which means every time I water them it's fresh. I'm working on a pond with a fountain now, so there will be no worry in the future. Remember if it's stagnant water or still the birds will still go to the fruit. Has to be clean, and preferably flowing water.
We've tried water with our peach trees before and it doesn't seem to stop them. You'll see us filling a bird bath that is about 10' from our peach trees in the beginning of this video and we still see the damage. I'm confident you're correct in that they're still going at them for the water, but we can't seem to get them to stop. Now we haven't tried flowing water, but that's not on the plans as of yet. Maybe something to add to the list though, based on your suggestion.
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm well dang. maybe feeders too? I have a lot of feeders of differing seeds. Maybe that plus flowing water will keep them at bay? Let us know if you figure something else out! (Oh I also have german shepherds and chickens that run around but they are outside of my growing area most of the time - maybe that's something).
@@bjmurrey we are looking into a couple different types of dogs, one being more of a "ratter" that might be able to help with both the birds and also the rabbits and squirrels. Fingers crossed!
@@EdgeofNowhereFarm My german shepherds catch squirrels and rabbits and bring them to me unharmed! They are a very smart breed, and my free-range hens roost over by dog houses. But I have seen a lot of garden-yorkies on the youtubes though they aren't my favorite (I like big dogs) they are small enough and fast enough to dart around and catch stuff without much damage. Funny how much a dog can help in the garden!
@@bjmurrey we're leaning more towards larger livestock guardians (Pyrenees is high on the list), but I've always been a fan of shepherds.
If you try to milk the goat I bet fruit punch comes out. Just saying.
If nothing else a purple tinge to it! Boysenberry milk sounds amazing BTW...
You guys need a swimming pool.
I think we would get a few sideways looks if we had a pool out here, but we do plan on having a few small ponds and water tanks.
Get a shotgun and learn how to use it. No more bird problem.
Avid upland game hunter here, so I'm right there with you. Not much on a sparrow though when it's all said and done!
Are you sure they're birds? Maybe your being singled-out because of God's success blessings and are being attacked with A.I. bird drones by the control freaks calling themselves Homeless Securities.
See now I was thinking we had bunnies climbing the trees, getting drunk on peach wine and falling over themselves as they returned to their dens underneath our woodchip piles. Silly me....
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Peach wine sounds good. Maybe a bit too sweet though. Kombucha more this bunnies speed. Very low alcohol.
@@LtBRS ah yes, we're kombucha fans here as well!
You guys need a swimming pool.
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