VSG Thanks! Yes, there will be very slight difference from that. The other disclaimer being thermal compound spread as you smash the paste down, but showed that part with the TT unit.
Unboxing videos provide a visceral experience to the viewer, allowing them a brief vicarious escape into the world of the tech reviewer. It is a transcendent and intimate form of art that is vastly superior to monotonous and pedantic prattling of specifications and minutiae. I'm J/K unboxings suck. 😂 Great video Steve & Co.!
I watched Dodger unboxing a intel box. Im now afraid to get any intel store bought items coming in a box. Unboxing video showed it is nearly impossible to open the box.
Tech-tuber Inception part 3(?) Paul delivers a post modern description of the life of a Tech-tuber! What will await us in : Tech-tuber Inception part 4(?) STAY Tunned Kidz!
GOD that IHS is freaking huge! Considering the size of that ihs and the probable heat output from overclocking that cpu we might actually see some new cooler designs (or the plates at least).
How the shit is that going to cool the 2 8c dies... it barely covers their position under the IHS! Grats for being literally the only tech tuber doing something original on nda lift.
Aaron Bond They are using gold thermal contacts and quality soldering. The ihs should have fairly uniform thermal spread for a slightly smaller contact area to be okay.
Seems to me the thermal paste on stock AIO's need a further spread as the contact plate does not look to reach all the way to the edge of the 2 8c... At the very least I would say apply your own paste. I think square contact plates are coming... Watch out for EK's response to this.
A bit of something for everybody. God I love you guys being in the mainstream tech tube space. You guys represent the "hardcore hardware lover" side of enthusiast, and all that while maintaining proper professional qualities, unlike emotional fanboyism :P
Thanks Steve, for bringing the engineering aspect (Heat Transfer) to the Cooling of CPUs. It seems as though there is an 'either or' mindset to applying Thermal Paste (pea or grain of rice). I applied Thermal Paste for the first time after watching many installations on UA-cam. If people are as serious as they claim to be regarding performance, then the application of Thermal Paste, and how the cooler cold plate sits on the CPU, should be conveyed as you have done here. It would be reasonable to think that the amount, technique, and shape of the Paste, after pressure is applied, would be discussed more often. I applied paste, torqued down my air cooler, then uninstalled the cooler, just to see how it spreads, and the actual coverage the cold plate makes with the CPU. On Threadripper, it seems as though only 50%, of the active dies, are covered. The circular shape of the cold plate is wrong. As you said, the screw holes need paste, and I would add more Paste, so the spread approaches the screw holes on the coldplate, if not the entire coldplate. it is worth the time to get this right. my CPU runs at 39 to 41 Degrees, at idle. I have an Cooler Master EVO 212, running one fan. it is important that the Paste cover the entire CPU, and that the coldplate cover the entire CPU. I look forward to seeing the numbers, when you test cooling efficiency. I know you have silk screens which does help. I was wondering if you could use plexiglass, to show the spread of Thermal Paste, given the shape (square; ball; rice grain; cross) and amount applied?
Much better coverage at this point of the release, this was one of the main things I personally was thinking about with coolers and coverage area on cpu this size, Thx for this video
I would like to see he stock compound amount vs a lot of compound there it slightly oozes out the sides, especially considering that they are not perfectly flat. i.imgur.com/v9chZ9O.jpg
Cooler cold plates are purposely not flat, this is spread the thermal compound as thin as possible over top of the cpu die (obviously wont work in this case, due to there being no die in the center) .
I have to say that your coverage of the contact surface was the most informative thing I have seen thus far in the TR “unboxing” videos. Well done. The explanation of the installation methodology however felt rushed. Anyway I actually have a Corsair H110 lying around and was interested in the contact surface and this video showed me everything I wanted to know.
There's not really a "methodology" to installation -- you just install it in the order the screws tell you, so not much there to say. We'll leave that to the other 800 videos uploaded today, as we were focused on the coverage today. Glad to hear that the contact area aspect helped you with the H110!
This has fast become my go to Tech UA-cam Channel. You guys literally personify the ol' monicker, "Maximum PC, Minimum BS". While I'm sure he's a nice guy, Linus and LTT has just grown so tiresome. You guys cut straight through the bullshit, and call it like it is, and I really commend that. On top of that, garnishing these fine tech dishes with a bit of the ol' Buildzoid, and this is the cream of the crop. The king of the crown. You guys deserve to be at the top. You talk about tech, not a glorified advertisement channel filled with advertisements.
It comes WITH a torque driver?! That's probably the most surprising thing I've heard so far. Such a good idea. And that whole assembly for mounting the CPU is really cool. Seems like installing space ship parts or something.
Every other channel: Look at the awesome box OMG! Gamers Nexus: Here's some actually useful info. That's why you guys are the best. Not that I blame the other channels though, Threadripper box is pretty awesome.
And i must say that the mounting procedure for that cpu is actually pretty cool! Im down for anything that will make mounting easier and remove chances of screwup, especially when you mount such expensive CPU's. GG Amd!
Good to see that you did not remove the black cover til last and recommended leaving it til last. I've watched several other install guides and cringed as the cpu was dangled over open pins.
I have to say love your videos. You always put a lot of good information on them and explain them very good. Also you're unbiased and tell the manufacturers if their products are bad. Keep up the good work my dude
TT's done some messed up things, but if you only do business with people who have never messed up, you're not doing much business. Don't know that AMD could give two shits about who Jay or anybody else is boycotting at any given time.
1BigBen and that's bad how? Jay went on a crusade over Tt "copying" the unoriginal Caselabs designs while wearing a Caselabs shirt and his free 600$ case in the backround. It was silly a.f.
i never would have thought there was THAT much to it. Bravo, good sir, for i have learnt my fun fact for the day. Going to be some good benchmarks bro, cant wait
now thats USEFUL info rather then the usual unboxing...thanks for this video u guys! :) keep up the good work..it takes a lot of work for this and i as a viewer is thankful to you guys!
So much more informative then the other unboxing/reviews. You should see the the ultra cringe worthy video over at the PCWor** page. I was in shock that a quote system expert was so mechanically disinclined. I'm glad that you were the first to show the cooling block coverage area. As a system builder using AMD CPUs exclusively for nearly 30 years I'm glad to see my prime supplier back in the game at the high end.
A smart man applies, his own thermal paste all over the coldplate area. Because of the coverage the custom water blocks will be much better at cooling, than the AIO versions for water cooling.
id like to see you guys run threadripper with no cooler for a bit, and monitor with a thermal camera to see where heat is generated and dissipated specifically.
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good information you gave, I think covering the whole of coolers need to be manufactured Threadripper cpu
GamersNexus, always with the most valuable information, thanks for this video, and clearing my doubts about the IHS contact with the coolers, because these Ryzen Threadripper are huge lol
Those look like good candidate for LM TIM. As for orientation the plate has 3 grooves spaced 90 degrees apart the missing groove is the long end. The fact that TIM is rated Wm/k means more more TIM area= more heat transfer. I would think that full TIM coverage would mean more heat transfer and a cooler CPU.
I'm currently planning on buying a 7800X/X299 Deluxe combo, but if the 1900X will cost the same or even less with a Zenith Extreme and perform better, AMD will get my money for sure
greyXstar Oh yeah true.. But it might be because it has 64 pcie lanes instead of 28. Also if this guy does not care about the quad channel ram and the 64pcie and he just wants to game the R5 1600 is sooo much less expensive.
Federico Salemi Yeah, I just read an article the other day (I think from TechSpot) that benchmarked the 1600 against the 7800X. There's a difference, but not $200 worth, at least not IMO. Unless you REALLY want a particular board I don't know why anyone but professional editors would go high end with either company honestly.
I thought they were as well Rasmus, but I just checked their news page and their blog and neither mention anything about working on a TR cooler. I mean. I'm sure they are. They'd be stupid not to. Especially when they HAVE already launched full cover blocks for the reference Vega cards. I just can't seem to find any information verifying it.
Well even for current processors a high end air cooler can match or beat most CLCs. That will likely be the case here as well, especially if there are air coolers that cover the entire heat spreader.
Geopirate3 That's simply not true, stop spreading misinformation. The biggest aftermarket air cooler simply cannot match water and radiator surface area.
I like unboxing videos because they unbox things ill never own ha. I like your videos because there is so much useful content here instead of the generic "heres the build, heres the benchmarks, heres my thoughts, rinse and repeat"
Steve , you can see the orientation of the fins by looking at the 3 notches/indents on the edge of the cold plate . Check at 5:56 The fins are diagonal oriented on the ThermalTake used in the video by using that logic. I am guessing of course , but I think that the nothes/indents are used in prodution to align the screwholes with te fins. to prevent weak spots or leaking. Great Video !
I don't think that processor dummy in the paper weight thing was for that purpose. AMD intended that to show gratitude or simply as a trophy.(PROBABLY) But as we know our genius Steve finds use for everything.
Great content. I have to say though since we are going to the nth degree, it does matter that the entire IHS is covered with thermal paste. Particularly when I see benchmarks +/- 1 degree. Granted if we were using stock coolers then it would not matter.
The Thermaltake 3.0 Ultimate 360mm has three notches in the copper cold plate, like the one shown. If you put that at the top and bottom of the chip (as it's in landscape), you ought to get the maximum coverage.
I would think Threadripper would make a good case for actually spreading a thin layer of Thermal Paste across the entire heat spreader. Not necessary, but with a giant heat spreader like that Id rather have peace of mind.
The more I find out about the TR4 socket, the more I like AMD's engineers. They went above and beyond to ensure that you have as few chances as possible to brick your high-dollar CPU. Good guy AMD! Now to see if the actual CPU is any good. *crosses fingers*
Excellently illustrated It will probably be worth the while to wait for something new to come out, specifically designed for thread ripper, rather than mounting something existing with a bracket. But I guess the question is if it matters. If existing cold plates are enough to reach that 4ghz limit, then it probably doesn't matter, since that's as high as you can go anyhow. (at least that's what we know so far.) But then again, it's a serious amount of heat to transfer, so chances are you will need something that covers the dies. Looking forward to that video ;)
This is such an awesome video. I was wondering how thermal paste would work on such a huge CPU! Are they coming out with Threadripper specific coolers?
Theoretically the greater area of contact between the two metals the better heat transfer to the fins and to the water. The heat is circulating through all the area of the cooler (not only where there are fins, remember, the ihs is greater than the cooler) . If you don't put thermal paste in all the surface of the cooler, still will be heat transfer, but with less efficiency. So in this case, i would reccomend to cover all the cooler surface with thermal paste. This said, at the end, i think the difference could be just a degree or so.
Fins on the copper plate run accros two oposite dents on the rim. So, the third one shoul be placed either on top or bottom of the CPU. In case you haven't figured it out already...
I dont understand half the shit this beautiful mer-man says but all these xmas present unwrapping of thread rippers compared to this calculus class of explanation is gladly welcome. Thx GN :)
Right now,i think the only cooler that will cover the full area of the cpu is the noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3.They have a pdf on their page and show that you have to use 9x3mm spots of thermal paste in a square formation and 4 big ones(5-6mm) placed between the 9 smaller ones in order to cover the whole area in a efficient way(?)
13.3 inch-pounds is basically "finger tight". If you don't have a torque wrench, it's finger tight. Put a little force once the screw stops turning and that's it. Similar to spring screws on a GPU. Don't over-tighten.
Here's hoping that EKWB, Bitspower and the other water block players make blocks that cover more of the HIS. Even if it's not necessarily needed, it theoretically should help.
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Article here: www.gamersnexus.net/news-pc/3008-threadripper-cooler-and-thermalpaste-coverage-vs-die-ihs
Nicely done, Steve. The silk screens do not account for IHS and cold plate bow though, so there's a small disclaimer involved here.
VSG Thanks! Yes, there will be very slight difference from that. The other disclaimer being thermal compound spread as you smash the paste down, but showed that part with the TT unit.
Hi Steve, is there any updates about the Nocuta fans?
Hey Steve, Any updates on you doing the Nocuta fan comparisons between the different suppliers ?
@Avalon Joshua , read my mind !
Avalon Joshua Got done with four of the first six last night.
There's everyone doing unboxings, meanwhile GN provides the quality content we all actually want. As usual. Brilliant job, lads.
A bit of fun won't hurt you.
unboxing does help, especially if you want to buy the product and want to know what comes in the package
It'll be hilarious if the personalized CPUs are working numbered samples.
SlavjanA Yea, cause everyone " actually wants " Something as niche as thermal paste spread. Lol.
Shut it
Exactly!
Unboxing videos provide a visceral experience to the viewer, allowing them a brief vicarious escape into the world of the tech reviewer. It is a transcendent and intimate form of art that is vastly superior to monotonous and pedantic prattling of specifications and minutiae.
I'm J/K unboxings suck. 😂 Great video Steve & Co.!
I watched Dodger unboxing a intel box.
Im now afraid to get any intel store bought items coming in a box. Unboxing video showed it is nearly impossible to open the box.
The world of the tech reviewer, part 1: What do we do with these cardboard boxes?
You can sell them as recycling material to china.Din't you hear they are making smartphones out of rec.cardboard.
Tech-tuber Inception part 3(?)
Paul delivers a post modern description of the life of a Tech-tuber! What will await us in : Tech-tuber Inception part 4(?)
STAY Tunned Kidz!
Gamers Nexus- have the staff sign them, then raffle them off.
Everyone else with their display CPU: It's going on the shelf!
Steve: We literally drew all over it.
Not just another arbitrary unboxing video, and instead, actually covering something practical and meaningful. Massive thumbs up GN crew!
GOD that IHS is freaking huge! Considering the size of that ihs and the probable heat output from overclocking that cpu we might actually see some new cooler designs (or the plates at least).
How the shit is that going to cool the 2 8c dies... it barely covers their position under the IHS!
Grats for being literally the only tech tuber doing something original on nda lift.
Aaron Bond They are using gold thermal contacts and quality soldering. The ihs should have fairly uniform thermal spread for a slightly smaller contact area to be okay.
Seems to me the thermal paste on stock AIO's need a further spread as the contact plate does not look to reach all the way to the edge of the 2 8c... At the very least I would say apply your own paste. I think square contact plates are coming... Watch out for EK's response to this.
Aaron Bond Just saying, but it's been confirmed that it's actually 4 dies instead of just 2. De8auer's delidding video showed that.
I think in the beginning, Noctua and EK will be the ones to go with ^^ The aircoolers from Noctua look Massive!
* * yeah it's 4 die , ryzen r7 is 4 core 2 die =8 and threadripper is 4 die 4 cores each =16 total my thinking
Steve, you are a hero. Everyone else is blindly posting Threadripper unboxing, only you put out helpful, informative content
A bit of something for everybody. God I love you guys being in the mainstream tech tube space. You guys represent the "hardcore hardware lover" side of enthusiast, and all that while maintaining proper professional qualities, unlike emotional fanboyism :P
Thanks Steve, for bringing the engineering aspect (Heat Transfer) to the Cooling of CPUs. It seems as though there is an 'either or' mindset to applying Thermal Paste (pea or grain of rice). I applied Thermal Paste for the first time after watching many installations on UA-cam. If people are as serious as they claim to be regarding performance, then the application of Thermal Paste, and how the cooler cold plate sits on the CPU, should be conveyed as you have done here. It would be reasonable to think that the amount, technique, and shape of the Paste, after pressure is applied, would be discussed more often. I applied paste, torqued down my air cooler, then uninstalled the cooler, just to see how it spreads, and the actual coverage the cold plate makes with the CPU. On Threadripper, it seems as though only 50%, of the active dies, are covered. The circular shape of the cold plate is wrong. As you said, the screw holes need paste, and I would add more Paste, so the spread approaches the screw holes on the coldplate, if not the entire coldplate. it is worth the time to get this right. my CPU runs at 39 to 41 Degrees, at idle. I have an Cooler Master EVO 212, running one fan. it is important that the Paste cover the entire CPU, and that the coldplate cover the entire CPU. I look forward to seeing the numbers, when you test cooling efficiency. I know you have silk screens which does help. I was wondering if you could use plexiglass, to show the spread of Thermal Paste, given the shape (square; ball; rice grain; cross) and amount applied?
Much better coverage at this point of the release, this was one of the main things I personally was thinking about with coolers and coverage area on cpu this size, Thx for this video
I'm interested to see how an AIO without full coverage compares to an air cooler with heat pipes over the full dyes.
I would like to see he stock compound amount vs a lot of compound there it slightly oozes out the sides, especially considering that they are not perfectly flat. i.imgur.com/v9chZ9O.jpg
Cooler cold plates are purposely not flat, this is spread the thermal compound as thin as possible over top of the cpu die (obviously wont work in this case, due to there being no die in the center) .
I have to say that your coverage of the contact surface was the most informative thing I have seen thus far in the TR “unboxing” videos. Well done.
The explanation of the installation methodology however felt rushed.
Anyway I actually have a Corsair H110 lying around and was interested in the contact surface and this video showed me everything I wanted to know.
There's not really a "methodology" to installation -- you just install it in the order the screws tell you, so not much there to say. We'll leave that to the other 800 videos uploaded today, as we were focused on the coverage today.
Glad to hear that the contact area aspect helped you with the H110!
This has fast become my go to Tech UA-cam Channel. You guys literally personify the ol' monicker, "Maximum PC, Minimum BS". While I'm sure he's a nice guy, Linus and LTT has just grown so tiresome. You guys cut straight through the bullshit, and call it like it is, and I really commend that. On top of that, garnishing these fine tech dishes with a bit of the ol' Buildzoid, and this is the cream of the crop. The king of the crown. You guys deserve to be at the top. You talk about tech, not a glorified advertisement channel filled with advertisements.
It comes WITH a torque driver?! That's probably the most surprising thing I've heard so far. Such a good idea.
And that whole assembly for mounting the CPU is really cool. Seems like installing space ship parts or something.
I love this channel! No bullshit or fancy intros or music, just straight information that we need!
All the you tubers are doing unboxing videos and you go straight to the meat and potatoes.This is why I love your channel!Keep up the great work!
Man, this channel is amazing. You put out some crazy awesome content. I regret not finding you folks sooner.
You guys need more Subs , Best Content and In depth stuff PERIOD , you kick the crap out of all the other youtube guys !
I hope this channel gets a boom in subs soon. You guys seriously do an amazing job.
"I don't like unboxings, I think they're useless."
I always liked this channel. But now...
I have found the perfect time to subscribe.
Every other channel: Look at the awesome box OMG!
Gamers Nexus: Here's some actually useful info.
That's why you guys are the best.
Not that I blame the other channels though, Threadripper box is pretty awesome.
And i must say that the mounting procedure for that cpu is actually pretty cool! Im down for anything that will make mounting easier and remove chances of screwup, especially when you mount such expensive CPU's. GG Amd!
OH and thank G, the only person i've seen so far who's readied the cpu in it's holder before pulling the cover off the socket.
Good to see that you did not remove the black cover til last and recommended leaving it til last. I've watched several other install guides and cringed as the cpu was dangled over open pins.
Thank you for the additional perspective on this launch. I like watching the unboxings and such but your take on the other, finer details is welcomed.
Thank you for this video, I'm not getting a TR, but it's still good to know these things if I ever do or so I can help others.
I have to say love your videos. You always put a lot of good information on them and explain them very good. Also you're unbiased and tell the manufacturers if their products are bad. Keep up the good work my dude
Torque information is so valuable!
Great upload GN!
I'm looking forward to your comparisons between the different types of contact plates.
Dude it looks badass cpu looks like a quality build love that orange tap.
Just saw Jaytwocents throwing TT Products off the desk ,
he is fuckin savage ...
Yer just watched that aswell haha
TT's done some messed up things, but if you only do business with people who have never messed up, you're not doing much business. Don't know that AMD could give two shits about who Jay or anybody else is boycotting at any given time.
Aditya Verma ikr wtf
1BigBen and that's bad how? Jay went on a crusade over Tt "copying" the unoriginal Caselabs designs while wearing a Caselabs shirt and his free 600$ case in the backround. It was silly a.f.
1BigBen true , I just thought Jay took it almost personally and took it a bit overboard.
i never would have thought there was THAT much to it. Bravo, good sir, for i have learnt my fun fact for the day.
Going to be some good benchmarks bro, cant wait
This video and the guy and his honesty made me SUB .. Respect Man
This was the exact information I was looking for. I'm definitely waiting for a better cooling solution before building with the 1950X.
Fantastic technical journalism as always.
now thats USEFUL info rather then the usual unboxing...thanks for this video u guys! :) keep up the good work..it takes a lot of work for this and i as a viewer is thankful to you guys!
Thanks for 22 minutes of quality time!
So much more informative then the other unboxing/reviews. You should see the the ultra cringe worthy video over at the PCWor** page. I was in shock that a quote system expert was so mechanically disinclined. I'm glad that you were the first to show the cooling block coverage area. As a system builder using AMD CPUs exclusively for nearly 30 years I'm glad to see my prime supplier back in the game at the high end.
Thanks for your hard work guys we appreciate your dedication!
Love the in depth reviews bud :) keep up the awesome work and videos
Can’t wait for that coverage coverage.
Loved this video, very well done, logical... as always. Keep up the great tech journalism!
A smart man applies, his own thermal paste all over the coldplate area.
Because of the coverage the custom water blocks will be much better at cooling, than the AIO versions for water cooling.
your channel is amazing. there are so much depth and knowledge to learn.
John Snow sure knows a lot about Threadripper and CPU cooling.
Good thing there is already one in production that will cover Threadripper.
that cpu socket install looks dope af. It's oddly satisfying.
id like to see you guys run threadripper with no cooler for a bit, and monitor with a thermal camera to see where heat is generated and dissipated specifically.
good information you gave, I think covering the whole of coolers need to be manufactured Threadripper cpu
This was very insightful. Thank you for taking the time and effort to make this video :)
Best video about threadripper i've seen!
Genius use of your personalised AMD CPU "Prop", to release a different kind of ThreadRipper video, clever thinking :-)
GamersNexus, always with the most valuable information, thanks for this video, and clearing my doubts about the IHS contact with the coolers, because these Ryzen Threadripper are huge lol
Those look like good candidate for LM TIM. As for orientation the plate has 3 grooves spaced 90 degrees apart the missing groove is the long end. The fact that TIM is rated Wm/k means more more TIM area= more heat transfer. I would think that full TIM coverage would mean more heat transfer and a cooler CPU.
Performance 3DP Nearly commented on that, but held the comment as I wanted to check other coldplates to see if they're all the same.
They look like alignment notches for the finning jig. But I am just guessing......
Steve you almost gave me a heart attack when you started to close the retention bracket with the cpu cover still installed
I'm currently planning on buying a 7800X/X299 Deluxe combo, but if the 1900X will cost the same or even less with a Zenith Extreme and perform better, AMD will get my money for sure
Jeremy Clarkson It will cost less for sure, the only thing that needs to be confirmed is performance
the 1900X should perform the same as the 1800X
Federico Salemi No it won't. The 7800X is $100 cheaper than the TR 1900X and the TR4 boards are at least as expensive as the same LGA 2066 versions.
greyXstar Oh yeah true.. But it might be because it has 64 pcie lanes instead of 28.
Also if this guy does not care about the quad channel ram and the 64pcie and he just wants to game the R5 1600 is sooo much less expensive.
Federico Salemi Yeah, I just read an article the other day (I think from TechSpot) that benchmarked the 1600 against the 7800X. There's a difference, but not $200 worth, at least not IMO. Unless you REALLY want a particular board I don't know why anyone but professional editors would go high end with either company honestly.
I think custom water cooling will be the best option given ek makes a proper waterblock.
zetdech they are making one
I thought they were as well Rasmus, but I just checked their news page and their blog and neither mention anything about working on a TR cooler. I mean. I'm sure they are. They'd be stupid not to. Especially when they HAVE already launched full cover blocks for the reference Vega cards. I just can't seem to find any information verifying it.
Well even for current processors a high end air cooler can match or beat most CLCs. That will likely be the case here as well, especially if there are air coolers that cover the entire heat spreader.
Geopirate3 That's simply not true, stop spreading misinformation. The biggest aftermarket air cooler simply cannot match water and radiator surface area.
According to Jayz they are making such a block. I think he knows someone there or whatever. That's good enough for me.
I like unboxing videos because they unbox things ill never own ha. I like your videos because there is so much useful content here instead of the generic "heres the build, heres the benchmarks, heres my thoughts, rinse and repeat"
Steve , you can see the orientation of the fins by looking at the 3 notches/indents on the edge of the cold plate .
Check at 5:56
The fins are diagonal oriented on the ThermalTake used in the video by using that logic.
I am guessing of course , but I think that the nothes/indents are used in prodution to align the screwholes with te fins. to prevent weak spots or leaking.
Great Video !
I don't think that processor dummy in the paper weight thing was for that purpose.
AMD intended that to show gratitude or simply as a trophy.(PROBABLY)
But as we know our genius Steve finds use for everything.
You sir deserve a sub. I will tell my friends 😃
everyone else is showing off the unboxing , meanwhile Gamers Nexus gives us in depth on how this beauty is gonna be cooled .
Cool, definitely answered a few of my curiosities. Thanks as always Steve.
Opening the paperweight to utilize for analysis and demo is clutch move by a professional. How do I give you more upvotes?
The logo looks like it's real metal in 4K I noticed on my (1440p) monitor awesome
Another excellent video guys!
Good video again more better info then other youtubers. Lets hope you did not step on any NDAs. Well done John Snow.
This is exactly the information I needed, thank you for going in depth!
Unboxings are fine, its only an issue when every tech channel does the same thing. Threadripper does have a unique box at least :-P
Great content. I have to say though since we are going to the nth degree, it does matter that the entire IHS is covered with thermal paste. Particularly when I see benchmarks +/-
1 degree. Granted if we were using stock coolers then it would not matter.
nice coverage of this subject; nice work!
Great info! Didn't realize that was a calibrated torque wrench. That's cool. Thanks for not doing an unboxing video.
"I don't like unboxings, I think they're useless. So, I'm gonna' show you something useful."
- Papa Steve.
Bless you, sir.
God damn. Guess I’m gonna have to wait to look into one til it can be properly cooled
The Thermaltake 3.0 Ultimate 360mm has three notches in the copper cold plate, like the one shown. If you put that at the top and bottom of the chip (as it's in landscape), you ought to get the maximum coverage.
I would think Threadripper would make a good case for actually spreading a thin layer of Thermal Paste across the entire heat spreader. Not necessary, but with a giant heat spreader like that Id rather have peace of mind.
ccmaster86 This is a 'The bigger the glob the better the job' senario
The more I find out about the TR4 socket, the more I like AMD's engineers. They went above and beyond to ensure that you have as few chances as possible to brick your high-dollar CPU. Good guy AMD!
Now to see if the actual CPU is any good. *crosses fingers*
"I dont like unboxings, I think they're useless" - amen brother!
Great Video Steve! Great to know what to look for or forseen problems...
I bet the companies hate you, but we love you so its working! 😉
You can tell what way the fins will face based on the inlet pipe. So have the inlet pipe on either left or right sides to line up the fins optimially.
Excellently illustrated
It will probably be worth the while to wait for something new to come out, specifically designed for thread ripper, rather than mounting something existing with a bracket.
But I guess the question is if it matters. If existing cold plates are enough to reach that 4ghz limit, then it probably doesn't matter, since that's as high as you can go anyhow. (at least that's what we know so far.) But then again, it's a serious amount of heat to transfer, so chances are you will need something that covers the dies.
Looking forward to that video ;)
This video is so nerdy. I love it.
I do like that board... nice work with the cpu paste. good info as usual.
One youtuber comes to mind who started everything with unboxings... =P
Awesome coverage as always, thank you.
great analysis, so much details, thank you
This is such an awesome video. I was wondering how thermal paste would work on such a huge CPU! Are they coming out with Threadripper specific coolers?
So these things might run a bit warm until new coolers are made or modified, Good to know! Hopefully, they address this in the near future.
I foresee some crazy heatpipe style heatsinks coming for this.
Theoretically the greater area of contact between the two metals the better heat transfer to the fins and to the water. The heat is circulating through all the area of the cooler (not only where there are fins, remember, the ihs is greater than the cooler) . If you don't put thermal paste in all the surface of the cooler, still will be heat transfer, but with less efficiency. So in this case, i would reccomend to cover all the cooler surface with thermal paste. This said, at the end, i think the difference could be just a degree or so.
Rest In Piece, threads.. RIP... :D
Fins on the copper plate run accros two oposite dents on the rim. So, the third one shoul be placed either on top or bottom of the CPU.
In case you haven't figured it out already...
I dont understand half the shit this beautiful mer-man says but all these xmas present unwrapping of thread rippers compared to this calculus class of explanation is gladly welcome. Thx GN :)
Right now,i think the only cooler that will cover the full area of the cpu is the noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3.They have a pdf on their page and show that you have to use 9x3mm spots of thermal paste in a square formation and 4 big ones(5-6mm) placed between the 9 smaller ones in order to cover the whole area in a efficient way(?)
Noctua is bae. Can't wait to see the behemoth they come up with for TR.
13.3 inch-pounds is basically "finger tight". If you don't have a torque wrench, it's finger tight. Put a little force once the screw stops turning and that's it. Similar to spring screws on a GPU. Don't over-tighten.
Guessing we'll see some nice custom-loop waterblocks as opposed to AIO water coolers. If we know what dies are used, could have a diagonal micro-fin.
Here's hoping that EKWB, Bitspower and the other water block players make blocks that cover more of the HIS. Even if it's not necessarily needed, it theoretically should help.