The ability to add a tool box, fuel tank, or just have a generator sitting back there all the time and still have more bed than most people with empty shorts is already worth it. Ford throwing in the 48 gallon tank is icing on the cake.
Long bed with the steps definitely looks better then without steps. From an aesthetic stand point in my eyes. Makes it look a little smaller like it’s not so long.
Green border window stickers also means special order. I have a 17 F250 ext cab long box, bought it brand new and love it. I'll never go back to a short box again.
After owning both I Will never go back to the short bed. You touched on everything. More space in the bed even though I don’t need it, it’s nice to put a piece of plywood, Queen size mattress or other misc. items in the bed and shut the tailgate without going over the tailgate and needing to tie the item down. Towing my trailer and headed out on vacation time is where they don’t compare! Ride quality and the extra distance on a tank of fuel especially when I don’t know the quality of fuel where I will be going and needing to stop while pulling my toy hauler made up for the $200 immediately. Plus I get more steps in, LoL when you have to park at the end of parking lots!
I agree. I did the same thing. I will never go back to a short bed. I haul a 5th wheel and I really like the extra room in the bed with the 8ft box and the not having to worry about turning and pinching the cab is great.
@@its_ethan722I just park away from everyone so it's not too big of a deal. The bigger stock fuel tank is also worth it if you travel a lot. Ford has a 48 gallon tank, Ram has a 50
At first I HATED the long bed but now, the huge front end looks silky with the tiny bed in the back. The longer bed makes it look perfect although I do wish it was maybe a foot shorter
I haven’t had a long bed since 2005 because parking spaces in central Texas kept getting smaller. But if I lived somewhere less crowded I would definitely go with the long bed.
My past two trucks have been short beds, but my next one will definitely be a long bed SRW or DRW. When I have to buy plywood or 2x4x8 boards, I would love to close my tailgate.
The decreased payload and towing might look like a drawback on paper but is deceptive in the real world. In a max-load situation, the long bed will feel noticeably more capable. However, there are other drawbacks to consider. In an urban, everyday driving scenario parking is a nightmare. I had a customer trade a late model short for a similar long with the same axle ratio and gas 7.3 engine. He towed an 8500lb trailer and said the added stability made him more confident while towing. However, this advantage was outweighed by a measurable decrease in turning ratio. He said the added bed capacity and stability didn't make up for the added nucience of finding places to park and wider turning with a trailer. Not to mention, most garages will not be big enough. Food for thought.
It's always been my opinion to get the long bed with the super cab. It gives you the same length as a crew cab short bed so it's just as easy to park but you get the bigger fuel tank. Get it with 4:30 gears put a two and a half inch level kit on it and you can run 37-in tires and take it about anywhere. I never understood why Ford doesn't build more of them this way. Nor do I understand why a family of four needs a crew cab. Unless you are hauling around four other full grown men you don't need that much space in the backseat, and it doesn't make sense to get a pickup that can't carry as large of a piece of wood as my minivan.
37" tires will fit with NO "lift" or "leveling kit". Although for 99% of pickup owners, there is nothing you're going to do on 37" tires that you couldn't do on stock tires. The cheap spacer lifts many people use in these vehicles REDUCE suspension travel AND reduce stability by reducing caster angle. Bonus points for the dipshits that fail to aim their headlights down after cosmetic suspension modifications to their pickups.
I had a ‘22 F350 Crew Cab LB for 6 months and ~3500 miles. Hauled hay, 3 horse GN trailer, and dump trailer full of manure beautifully, but I quickly realized the LB was overkill for me and made the truck ridiculously long - about 22’ with trailer hitch. My wife hated how big it was and didn’t even want to ride in it, much less learn to drive it. The huge gas tank was painful to fill up so I usually never let it get below a half a tank before filling. Sold it in March ‘23 to a guy who hates the look of the side steps so he wanted a ‘22 with low miles so we were both happy. Still have my ‘87 6.9 diesel standard cab LB until I decide what’s next.
Excellent video, JB (my initials, too 😅) + The comments are spot on too! I've got an F-350 on order with the long box -for all the reasons you mentioned.
That extra foot of cargo doesn’t really give much. But it makes significant difference in driving and parking it. Also for the off road. Shorter base much better for off road. Had both of those. It’s really individual preference. Price wise sure extra $200 worth it
Ty for sharing, great vid. both look good, would def. take the long bed if I was picking have not seen to many videos with those black wheels @0:54 , ty for showing that option ...
I love the long beds but in tight areas there are lots of multiple point turns and some spaces it just can’t or hard to fit in so I understand why some don’t go for it
You might be able to get a little bit better deal on the long bed because I don’t think a lot of people like to buy those so they sit on the lot longer.
exactly! I ordered my 2024 2500HD Denali Ultimate in a long box, and the guy looked at me and blinked repeatedly....why?! It's a truck, it should be able to do what a truck is supposed to do. 😂 He claimed he's never seen someone order that truck in a long box.
On the east coast, we need a little more maneuverability! I see your thinking on the fuel tank. I am pleased with my intermediate bed, not too long, not too short, just right!
I bought a 2023 long bed super duty with the sport package has the high output 7.3 I love the 48 gallon tank I'm getting over 21 miles a gallon at 75 miles per hour I put on over 6,000 miles and have averaged 18.8 that's pulling 5th wheels boats in town and Highway crazy right it does have the 331 gears... Lariat ultimate package love it had seven or eight short beds before this truck
I just picked up a 23 F250 lariat 6.7 Tremor short bed. I did my research but second guessing myself if I bought enough truck to two my 38ft 5th wheel. It comes in at just under 14k lbs wet. My Tremor came with the 11,000 GVWR package and 3.55 gears. I traded in my 2018 F350 6.7 Lariat long bed that had no issues towing my 5th wheel. My wife and I decided to upgrade for the 10 sp trans and short bed so we didn't have to pack a lunch to walk from front to back and easier parking and maneuvering. The specs on my 18 F350 where 28k GCWR and 20,800 trailer weight. The specs on the 23 F250 are 31k GCWR and 20,500 trailer wt, so I only to a 300 lb hit on trailer wt and a 3000 lb gain on GCWR. I thank I might have taken a hit on payload capacity also but not sure. They are almost identical in towing capacities. The only disadvantage is have to use that heavy a-- slider hitch. I'm also not sure on the Goodyear 35's, I have always used Michelin on my tow vehicles. I would have liked to have gotten the F350 but couldn't justify the price difference and finding one at MSRP. My got my 23 at MSRP plus a $500 military discount. The guy who special ordered it backed out. I have a good relationship with my local Ford dealer. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Long beds are great for capacity and fifth wheels but try backing one up with a 26' trailer at a tight boat ramp. Or parking in a conventional parking space on the side of the street in small town USA.
I buy trucks for their utility, not to add a bunch useless mods that look nice but only add weight and rob payload. Long beds add utility in almost all cases. Prior to 2023, the LB also added about 700 lbs in payload over the SB. That advantage has been reduced somewhat in 2023 to 400 lbs.
Drop down to the gas engine and you instantly get up to at least 4500 lbs if you stick with the Lariat trim. I'd pick an XLT over the Lariat because the Lariat inches to the $100k price point here in Canada
Anyone who uses a truck like a truck. It’s long bed every time. I had 13 trucks since 04. And I run outta bed space very often. Loved my 8 footers. Now just wish I can afford a new 350 long bed
I’d like to see a video on which brand. Gm. Ram. Ford. On who has the biggest cab space. Obviously ram gets to use mega cab. But the fords and gms. Have definitely gotten bigger in the past couple years so I’m not quite sure ram still has the title for biggest cab.
The long bed is a truck. I don't take parking ease into consideration, I will never daily drive my '23 F350 KR. The long bed rides better, is more stable when towing, and has a giant gas tank. I can get the tailgate shut with dirt bikes or an ATV in there.
I was going to Trade my 2021 PB xlt for 2023 F350 XLT long bed with 7.3. With the powerboost , Economy wise i am averaging 24 mpg around town and only tow my 34 coacman travel trailer a few times a year(7500pounds). The godzilla would get 15 around town if I was lucky.
People don't want a long bed due to parking the sucker. It just grinds my gears of how for sales Ford made these trucks like a SUV. With a 4 door cab. To me if you do not work do not buy a short bed work truck. What does a person need a F- 250 for unless you got a job to do? Maybe you have a boat to where it is easier to maneuver the truck around. That is understandable. But people just driving such a truck for going to work in a office? Huge waste of fuel. I see the fords F-250 F-350 XLT or special editions. They are treated like a car. Ask someone to get you through a ditch full of mud and water, a person will think that they would get stuck in their truck.
@troysavageau3198 4.30 with e-locker is optional on the long box super crew F350 I'm speccing. But don't sweat the 3.31 gears- first gear in the 10-speed automatic is 4.70:1. If you're comparing that to an old truck with a C6 or E4OD automatic, that would be the same as having 6.50 rear gears...and seven overdrive speeds.
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Long bed all day.
The ability to add a tool box, fuel tank, or just have a generator sitting back there all the time and still have more bed than most people with empty shorts is already worth it.
Ford throwing in the 48 gallon tank is icing on the cake.
Tool box fuel tank or generator? In 1.25 feet of bed space 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Metal_Stacking speak english
Nice! I think the long bed just looks better on super duty’s.
Long bed with the steps definitely looks better then without steps. From an aesthetic stand point in my eyes. Makes it look a little smaller like it’s not so long.
Yeah, breaks it up visually just the right amount.
Not only for packing/hauling purposes but I think design wise the long bed trucks look balanced.
Green border window stickers also means special order. I have a 17 F250 ext cab long box, bought it brand new and love it. I'll never go back to a short box again.
After owning both I Will never go back to the short bed. You touched on everything. More space in the bed even though I don’t need it, it’s nice to put a piece of plywood, Queen size mattress or other misc. items in the bed and shut the tailgate without going over the tailgate and needing to tie the item down.
Towing my trailer and headed out on vacation time is where they don’t compare! Ride quality and the extra distance on a tank of fuel especially when I don’t know the quality of fuel where I will be going and needing to stop while pulling my toy hauler made up for the $200 immediately.
Plus I get more steps in, LoL when you have to park at the end of parking lots!
After going from a short bed to a long bed, I won't go back. The long bed has so much more space even with a 5th wheel hitch in the bed.
I agree. I did the same thing. I will never go back to a short bed. I haul a 5th wheel and I really like the extra room in the bed with the 8ft box and the not having to worry about turning and pinching the cab is great.
I’m thinking about getting a long box is it worth it ? Like especially with parking and stuff?
@@its_ethan722I just park away from everyone so it's not too big of a deal. The bigger stock fuel tank is also worth it if you travel a lot. Ford has a 48 gallon tank, Ram has a 50
At first I HATED the long bed but now, the huge front end looks silky with the tiny bed in the back. The longer bed makes it look perfect although I do wish it was maybe a foot shorter
Nah I wish they made a 10ft bed option for the crew cabs, wish they made w megacab like ram does. Megacab long bed 10ft for the 4500s
@@yesnoztr might as well just buy an 18 wheeler haha
Loved this video. Long beds are so much more practical if you are loading things in the bed.
I haven’t had a long bed since 2005 because parking spaces in central Texas kept getting smaller. But if I lived somewhere less crowded I would definitely go with the long bed.
Haha that’s a struggle. I usually take up 2 spaces but not all parking spots have spaces on both sides
My past two trucks have been short beds, but my next one will definitely be a long bed SRW or DRW. When I have to buy plywood or 2x4x8 boards, I would love to close my tailgate.
I have no need for a long bed. If I needed it I would go that route for sure. The short bed will fit my needs perfect.
The decreased payload and towing might look like a drawback on paper but is deceptive in the real world. In a max-load situation, the long bed will feel noticeably more capable. However, there are other drawbacks to consider. In an urban, everyday driving scenario parking is a nightmare. I had a customer trade a late model short for a similar long with the same axle ratio and gas 7.3 engine. He towed an 8500lb trailer and said the added stability made him more confident while towing. However, this advantage was outweighed by a measurable decrease in turning ratio. He said the added bed capacity and stability didn't make up for the added nucience of finding places to park and wider turning with a trailer. Not to mention, most garages will not be big enough. Food for thought.
People buy them because they use them. Worst thing about new trucks are the tiny beds. Long bed used to be the “standard” length.
It's always been my opinion to get the long bed with the super cab. It gives you the same length as a crew cab short bed so it's just as easy to park but you get the bigger fuel tank. Get it with 4:30 gears put a two and a half inch level kit on it and you can run 37-in tires and take it about anywhere.
I never understood why Ford doesn't build more of them this way. Nor do I understand why a family of four needs a crew cab. Unless you are hauling around four other full grown men you don't need that much space in the backseat, and it doesn't make sense to get a pickup that can't carry as large of a piece of wood as my minivan.
37" tires will fit with NO "lift" or "leveling kit". Although for 99% of pickup owners, there is nothing you're going to do on 37" tires that you couldn't do on stock tires.
The cheap spacer lifts many people use in these vehicles REDUCE suspension travel AND reduce stability by reducing caster angle.
Bonus points for the dipshits that fail to aim their headlights down after cosmetic suspension modifications to their pickups.
I had a ‘22 F350 Crew Cab LB for 6 months and ~3500 miles. Hauled hay, 3 horse GN trailer, and dump trailer full of manure beautifully, but I quickly realized the LB was overkill for me and made the truck ridiculously long - about 22’ with trailer hitch. My wife hated how big it was and didn’t even want to ride in it, much less learn to drive it. The huge gas tank was painful to fill up so I usually never let it get below a half a tank before filling. Sold it in March ‘23 to a guy who hates the look of the side steps so he wanted a ‘22 with low miles so we were both happy. Still have my ‘87 6.9 diesel standard cab LB until I decide what’s next.
How much did it cost for refilling the full fuel?
$250
Excellent video, JB (my initials, too 😅) + The comments are spot on too! I've got an F-350 on order with the long box -for all the reasons you mentioned.
That extra foot of cargo doesn’t really give much. But it makes significant difference in driving and parking it. Also for the off road.
Shorter base much better for off road. Had both of those.
It’s really individual preference.
Price wise sure extra $200 worth it
Ty for sharing, great vid. both look good, would def. take the long bed if I was picking have not seen to many videos with those black wheels @0:54 , ty for showing that option ...
Long bed regular cab. Proper truck configuration, that.
I HAVE A 2022 F350 PLATINUM LONG BED 48 gl MAKES A DIFFERENCE , AND LIFTED LOOKS BETTER
Thats the only way i will buy a truck, 8’ beds are the best way to go
I love the long beds but in tight areas there are lots of multiple point turns and some spaces it just can’t or hard to fit in so I understand why some don’t go for it
Good video.
Very instructive, thanks a lot !:
You might be able to get a little bit better deal on the long bed because I don’t think a lot of people like to buy those so they sit on the lot longer.
Also, get the 4.31 rear end with the 7.3, otherwise you are blowing ~4,000lbs in towing
When I ordered my 2024 GMC, I asked the dealer about the bed length price difference. It was also a $200 price difference.
exactly! I ordered my 2024 2500HD Denali Ultimate in a long box, and the guy looked at me and blinked repeatedly....why?! It's a truck, it should be able to do what a truck is supposed to do. 😂
He claimed he's never seen someone order that truck in a long box.
The step is awesome…👍
On the east coast, we need a little more maneuverability! I see your thinking on the fuel tank. I am pleased with my intermediate bed, not too long, not too short, just right!
❤Thank you for sharing this God bless you
Great Video! You should do similar for GMC AND Chevy !!!
I bought a 2023 long bed super duty with the sport package has the high output 7.3 I love the 48 gallon tank I'm getting over 21 miles a gallon at 75 miles per hour I put on over 6,000 miles and have averaged 18.8 that's pulling 5th wheels boats in town and Highway crazy right it does have the 331 gears... Lariat ultimate package love it had seven or eight short beds before this truck
High output 7.3L?
@@dantimber opps 6.7...lol
I wonder what's the point of building a 350 without a 5th wheel prep package?
After all a long bed is a real truck bed. All shorter beds are a pain in the ass
I just picked up a 23 F250 lariat 6.7 Tremor short bed. I did my research but second guessing myself if I bought enough truck to two my 38ft 5th wheel. It comes in at just under 14k lbs wet. My Tremor came with the 11,000 GVWR package and 3.55 gears. I traded in my 2018 F350 6.7 Lariat long bed that had no issues towing my 5th wheel. My wife and I decided to upgrade for the 10 sp trans and short bed so we didn't have to pack a lunch to walk from front to back and easier parking and maneuvering. The specs on my 18 F350 where 28k GCWR and 20,800 trailer weight. The specs on the 23 F250 are 31k GCWR and 20,500 trailer wt, so I only to a 300 lb hit on trailer wt and a 3000 lb gain on GCWR. I thank I might have taken a hit on payload capacity also but not sure. They are almost identical in towing capacities. The only disadvantage is have to use that heavy a-- slider hitch. I'm also not sure on the Goodyear 35's, I have always used Michelin on my tow vehicles. I would have liked to have gotten the F350 but couldn't justify the price difference and finding one at MSRP. My got my 23 at MSRP plus a $500 military discount. The guy who special ordered it backed out. I have a good relationship with my local Ford dealer. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hey, don't forget that on a F-250 the crew cab reduces the towing capacity and GVWC or (Gross Vehicle weight capacity).
Regular cab with long bed for me
If I am going to get a long bed I’m going to get a dually.
A SRW tows more than a dually from a few years ago, and drives so much better.
@@clifft7832dually is more stable tho
Down side to duallys are the hideous rancher wheels. I ain’t spending 30k on wheels lol
The most I ever put in at once was about 33gal and I think diesel was running about $5.50+ at the time, so pushing $200!
I bought the long bed. I’m never goin back.
Long beds are great for capacity and fifth wheels but try backing one up with a 26' trailer at a tight boat ramp. Or parking in a conventional parking space on the side of the street in small town USA.
Heck even a 6.5 bed is too long in town, lol! I have a 5.5 F150 and I still really struggle to fit into spaces in my town.
I went short bed. It already has a bad enough turning radius. The long wheelbase makes it that much worse.
I want the long bed in red. But can’t afford it damn
Camping. I like the super cab
I buy trucks for their utility, not to add a bunch useless mods that look nice but only add weight and rob payload. Long beds add utility in almost all cases. Prior to 2023, the LB also added about 700 lbs in payload over the SB. That advantage has been reduced somewhat in 2023 to 400 lbs.
Drop down to the gas engine and you instantly get up to at least 4500 lbs if you stick with the Lariat trim. I'd pick an XLT over the Lariat because the Lariat inches to the $100k price point here in Canada
Anyone who uses a truck like a truck. It’s long bed every time. I had 13 trucks since 04. And I run outta bed space very often. Loved my 8 footers. Now just wish I can afford a new 350 long bed
Glad you’re waking up
Short bed = soccer Dad
Assuming the tanks are full those range to empty numbers assume just over 14 MPG.
I’d like to see a video on which brand. Gm. Ram. Ford. On who has the biggest cab space. Obviously ram gets to use mega cab. But the fords and gms. Have definitely gotten bigger in the past couple years so I’m not quite sure ram still has the title for biggest cab.
i'll take the long bed in 7.3L gaser plz
No clearance lights!
They always leak and go bad
Neither truck is a bargain, they are both overpriced by $27,000.👎
They haven't been 40k since the 90s in a diesel
@@arod6789Those trucks are over $90,000 not $67,000. That was the base price before any options...
Just my opinion here. “STANDARD”. Bed is 8 feet long. The short bed is for city folks! Useless!
My thoughts exactly.
A short bed is a hat shelf. It's like the back seat in a Porsche 911.
I have to correct you the short box Super Duties have a 36 gallon tank
The long bed is a truck. I don't take parking ease into consideration, I will never daily drive my '23 F350 KR. The long bed rides better, is more stable when towing, and has a giant gas tank. I can get the tailgate shut with dirt bikes or an ATV in there.
Show me a ford cclb with 7.3 and stx package, i wanna see that payload number!
Does the ford f250 platinum/tremor package offer the long box
Tremor is only available with the short box
@clickynote thank you
I just don’t get y everyone don’t get a long bed it only about a foot bigger
what is the point buying pick up, without long bed, u should buy a suv without the back door
I was going to Trade my 2021 PB xlt for 2023 F350 XLT long bed with 7.3. With the powerboost , Economy wise i am averaging 24 mpg around town and only tow my 34 coacman travel trailer a few times a year(7500pounds). The godzilla would get 15 around town if I was lucky.
You’re averaging 24 with the 7.3?
@@MrCBify i was not clear. 24 mpg with the powerboost. That's why i did not get the F250. The PB will tow 11000 with 430 hp and 570 ft lb of torque
@@lcmm55🤔
A truck has a 8ft box!!! All others are for groceries .
Long bed missing skid plate
Why do you keep calling a short bed standard?
Big fuel tank with a big gas cost
If you actually work with your truck. The long bed is the only way to gol.
I really want this truck but can’t bring myself to buy one given how ugly the front end is
It's a work tool, not a pageant winner. And, it looks better in person.
Long bed is ugly but if you use the truck for work makes better sense
I don't like those wheels on the long bed.
You really need to do your homework the long box is the standard box not the other way around
Go Long Bed or get a Tacoma
$90,000.......
People don't want a long bed due to parking the sucker. It just grinds my gears of how for sales Ford made these trucks like a SUV. With a 4 door cab. To me if you do not work do not buy a short bed work truck. What does a person need a F- 250 for unless you got a job to do? Maybe you have a boat to where it is easier to maneuver the truck around. That is understandable. But people just driving such a truck for going to work in a office? Huge waste of fuel. I see the fords F-250 F-350 XLT or special editions. They are treated like a car. Ask someone to get you through a ditch full of mud and water, a person will think that they would get stuck in their truck.
3.31 and optional 3.55 is terrible 😢 wtf is that trash
You can get 4.10 on a f350 Dually or a 4.30 on a f450
@troysavageau3198 4.30 with e-locker is optional on the long box super crew F350 I'm speccing.
But don't sweat the 3.31 gears- first gear in the 10-speed automatic is 4.70:1.
If you're comparing that to an old truck with a C6 or E4OD automatic, that would be the same as having 6.50 rear gears...and seven overdrive speeds.
@@Dorton-fj6ox only on the gas trucks I believe
Dudes who have a favorite chair in the corner of the hotel room drive short boxes….
I understand the advantages and like them but I just can't imagine having to deal with that massive wheelbase.
Short bed all day