As someone who worked on Inside Job, thank you. It was a real slap in the face to have that pulled out from under us. Along with other projects being cancelled....it's been a bad time for a lot of folk in the Animation Industry.
I hate how lockdown is just a BS excuse for execs to hate on animation, since you CAN animate from home. Instead, they decided that good animated shows are "useless" and just cancel everything in sight until it's all shallow dating shows and foreign imports.
Thank you for all your work. I watched Inside Job easily a dozen times over and over. It was funny, clever, insightful, with clean animation and great characters. Was without a doubt one of my favorite shows in the last 10 years (Last show I loved this much was Firefly).The show being cancelled was a big reason why I cancelled my Netflix.
@@somegirl8007 I worked as an animator on both seasons which means I have scenes throughout most episodes, and then as a compositor on the second season. One of my memorable batches was Reagan going off on Rafe in her supervillain costume, and the helicopter scenes where Brett tapes a gun to Air Bud's head(Lighting, not animation this time)... I've also worked on Jake and the Neverland Pirate, Penn Zero, Final Space, The Loud House, Wellie Wishers, DC Superhero Girls, etc.
the fact that Big Mouth is getting a 7th season and this got cancelled after it's second makes me indescribably angry. Inside Job is genuinely a funny and interesting concept. It's like if Rick and Morty had some restraint and class, and was about conspiracy theories. I loved all the characters, the designs, and overall I think the concept was really well executed. I still rewatch it and I will never forgive Netflix for stopping the development of a genuinely enjoyable and funny show.
The Inside Job cancellation literally led me to stop giving a shit about anything they produce; how can I get into a show, love it, recommend it over and over and then have to explain to those people “it got cancelled despite being so good.” the binge-watching they push so hard for is literally LITERALLY killing good stories. and yeah part 2 wasnt as great as part 1 but sometimes its bc of network meddling
Idk if it’s the shareholders or what, but Netflix is almost unrecognizable. The same thing is happening with gaming. All these companies are changing up strategies in order to maximize profits. And unnecessarily too.
Unfortunately, killing well-made products is something only an individual cares about, but companies aren't individuals, rather, they are a massive group of different people all working to maximize profits; they don't care about talent or craftsmanship, all they care about is whether that product makes them money or not.
On the surface the show seemed to be Rick & Morty inspired. But watching it felt really fresh. Especially since it had good writing, and a story to tell. Something that 99% of adult western animation doesn’t have. The overdone animated sitcoms like Family guy or Paradise PD are low brow simplistic (insert sexual crude joke) Laugh! Shows, that don’t tell a compelling story, or build a fascinating world, hell you don’t even get much for character depth. People often describe them as shows to turn your brain off to. But that isn’t for me, what I love most is story, and I laugh more at thoughtful humour. Castlevania was the perfect adult show for me, and it went far, yet they still pulled the rug, it didn’t finish its second story arc. And now Inside Job. Yes it wasn’t perfect, but compared to Big Mouth for me it felt like gold. It’s easy to give up on western animation, as we enter another dark age for it, at least the Japanese see the value in the medium.
It was helmed by a writer of Gravity Falls and produced by its creator. Both of these shows excelled at growth and character development/advancement! It also did a good job of being a culturally diverse and explored multiple backgrounds and experiences… without ever feeling forced…. They just told stories for real people to enjoy. Brett is the perfect example of this. Made fun of and vilified the toxicity of certain aspects of white masculinity, while also showing how it can happen to an individual and what both rehabilitation and understanding look like. These things became hurdles for Brett as a character instead of barriers to his development. Every episode you felt like the entire cast grew or withered in fascinating ways. Basically the antithesis of Velma in every way!
And worse, inside job pioneered their model. Pretty sucessful i might add. Do even more baffling. Its also bad showrunning. Ok the real reason is so much worsecand wont gice them shows with longlivity, like inside job. It also actively harms shows that are smarter, but potential to become cults. Which netflix needs to keep being relevant.
I was a background artist on the show, (and was potentially going to be BG Lead on Season 2,) and just want to clarify: two episodes in part 2 were cut because part 1 was overbudget and behind schedule. Part 1 and 2 were made back-to-back as one work order, and 2 episodes were cut from Part 2 WHILE we were still working on Part 1. We finished Part 2 long before Part 1 ever aired. Cutting two episodes balanced the budget and got us caught up with the original production schedule. Anyway Star Trek Lower Decks (another show I've worked on) is a good example of letting a show find its footing with more than one or two seasons. Lower Decks had a questionable start, but has been really growing into its own since Season 3, S4 is going well, while S5 is currently in production. More of this in the industry, please!
@@KenYahh I would say it's extremely unlikely, as with all other Netflix animated shows. Netflix has dissolved its animation studio and will only either outright buy (finished productions from other studios) or fully outsource animated shows from now on. Inside Job was an in-house production, so I think it died along with Netflix Animation Studios. Other shows announced recently such as 'Carol' were actually made all the way back in 2021.
Hi I’ve always wanted to get into animation but never really known where to start I was wonder if you could speak on how you got to working on those shows and where you started your art/animation career??
The idea of watching like 10 episodes of a show within 2/3 days just to make it look like a success for company that produced it is not going to make the show as enjoyable as it should be.
I just binged the whole series and I'm so upset that there won't be more. We need to make them bring it back. Inside job really had the potential to be the next futurama. It was genuinely hilarious and I loved every second of it
Well, you have a taste very different from mine. I really enjoy Futurama but inside job looks pretty boring for me. I think closing it was the right decision.
Seriously, I've been so upset over this. The way Netflix runs themselves as a company is absolutely ridiculous, it completely strips the creators who work on projects like Inside Job of any air to breathe. Creativity has no place in a trapping corporate place like Netflix, and it hurts to see some of my favorite shows be cancelled because of it.
i fucking hate netflix for releasing good stuff i actually like watching and taking it away because you didn't do a good enough job marketing it. it's one of the best shows ive stumbled across in a while, and it's not lazily made, which seems more and more uncommon with netflix as they just make sloppy cash grab after sloppy cash grab. RIP inside job, the show never deserved this. :(
@@Snow-de3ny at least we still have big mouth, HAHAHAHAHA (cries) wtf is wrong with netflix for cancelling all the good shit. makes me mad that all they care abt is ratings and money.
I never heard of Inside Job until May 2023, seven months after Part 2 was released. I watched shows like Bojack and Big Mouth, but the Netflix algorithm never recommended the show to me. It wasn't until my uncle turned it on two in the morning when I probably should've been sleeping because I had an early flight to catch. But I didn't sleep, I was HOOKED immediately by the show because it was relatable from episode one. The last animated series to hook me in like this was Over the Garden Wall. Inside Job addressed hilarious and relevant topics, like the dangers of nostalgia, and included a cast of very likable/relatable characters. I didn't find out the show was cancelled until finishing Part 1, so I had to savor each episode until now. I just finished the series. I'm livid because this was a GREAT show. Inside Job's quality stood out among most of Netflix's content, and I'm not about to sit and let myself become malnourished of such artistic humor. This was a masterpiece in its own right and I've never watched a cartoon that I found so relevant be thrown out for the sake of numbers. Maybe Netflix should put a little effort in advertising this since they spent so much on it. Maybe I would have discovered it earlier, before it was too late. Regarding the UA-cam video, @Mr.Cow your explanation was stunning. Thank you for clearly verbalizing this in a way that made the put down easy to digest.
Same. I watched both those shows and I wasn’t recommended this until 3 months ago. I wish I saw it when it was released. I feel like Netflix didn’t advertise it enough to an audience that would enjoy it
What I find the most frustrating is that I didn't even know when this was being released? They just silently released it and I happened to stumble across it... I've noticed a trend in this when it comes to Netflix's animated series? They don't spend ANY advertising on it and then expect the shows to get in top 10??? When we don't even know they exist??
netflix really is putting the responsibility on the viewers. i remember when season 2 of the show young royals came out and the entire fan community came together and rewatched it over and over again for weeks on end and kept it in the top 10 just to make sure it would get its final season. and it worked. people shouldnt have to be putting in hours and hours a day into a show everyday just to keep it from getting cut
i think another issue with this cancellation is people using illegal streaming services (which has become way more popular now) to watch the shows instead of watching it on netflix itself so that it can get the right amount of views to be able to be renewed for another season
Netflix does with seasons what used to be done with pilots. You know, PILOTS? The thing you do when you want to prod an audience and see if people like something? Netflix is actively regressing. It makes no financial sense to produce a show and cancel it after one season. It‘s expensive, it‘s off-putting for consumers, and it‘s not sustainable for a network image. If you don‘t know if something will click with audiences, make a pilot episode or movie or whatever and see how people respond. And if you‘re confident something will work out and greenlight a season don‘t get cold balls and cancel the show after just one single season just because there isn‘t a die hard following yet. It‘s like the company is run by out-of-touch idiots that have never actually had to perform in a competitive setting.
Imagine if UA-cam cut channels off if they couldn't get top viewership. We would be left with horrible click bait, broad appeal crap and the platform would lose all character. That's exactly what's happening to Netflix.
UA-cam doesn't typically commission content for channels. The UA-cam Original content that they are responsible for financing is subject to a lot of the same incentives as Netflix, cuts and performance metrics included.
that is littarally allready youtube like damn allmost every youtuber does that and some even need to do it otherwise they cant grow their audience on this shit website
@@okkefaber9993 But they don't need to grow there audience. The problem isn't the lack of audience, it's people like you, for exemple, who take the small audience numbers as a lack of quality in there content. This mentality has to change.
It has to be pointed out, Netflix waited an ENTIRE YEAR to air the second half of season 1. I was a huge fan of the first 10 episodes, and even I was starting to forget about the show by the time we received any information about when the rest would air. And when it finally did, and I saw it was only 8 episodes instead of the expected 10, I knew it was doomed.
It's pretty common for a studio to wait 8-12 months, sometimes longer, to release the second cour of a season. Generally speaking, when a series is parsed like this it's because of production issues, which can lead to much longer delays; you can look at it as a second season, but it's generally still "season 1" because of how the series was contractually defined. This isn't a valid reason to conclude that something will fail; you were just making guesses. The fact that your guesses ended up being correct doesn't prove anything, they were still blind guesses (not even educated guesses, because there is no foundational evidence or industry support for your hypothesis, it's just wild speculation).
I would also like to add, to anyone reading, I was one of the people that DID NOT KNOW this show existed until after its cancellation. It is exactly up my alley and was 100% to my tastes, and yet the marketing felt non-existent. And I am an animation consumer (I watched Castlevania, Tuca & Bertie, etc, etc) so I am not sure why not a single algorithm put this show in my path. I can't express how upset I am that HUNDREDS of fans like me are probably part of the reason we aren't seeing a continuation. We just didn't know it was out there. I know the show saw a huge spike in viewership after its cancellation and that is even more upsetting. I would argue the IJ fanbase is bigger now than ever before and fans would flock to see a revival.
I binged watched the first part and I did not get pushed to watch the second part AT ALL. I feel awful that I didn’t binge the second part but I can’t always watch stuff as soon as it’s released and can’t always watch it all it one go either! It’s pure capitalism that they expect us to work and survive and yet non stop consume every piece of media that comes out as soon as it does.
Huh here I thought I was the only who watched this show. None of my friends watched it and I never saw anyone ever talked about this show until I saw this video. I thought it was one of the better stuff they put out in the past few years.
This looks like something I would have really enjoyed but I was never shown this on my Netflix homepage. What a shame that Netflix lack of promotion for the show probably contributed to its downfall
Inside job is on a long list of Netflix shows that truly deserved to be given a chance. Netflix can pay a billion dollars for Friends but can’t spend that money on good content.
Dark Crystal" age of resistence, absolutely stunning visuals, they built up the story, and then wam, they didnt even give it a chance, if a 2nd season happened, it would of really driven more hype to it
What’s especially stupid is that Netflix’s habit of canceling shows that aren’t immediate hits everyone watches to their season’s end has conditioned some of their audience to avoid shows until they conclude for fear of getting attached to a show Netflix will just cancel; which causes Netflix to cancel more shows and drive audiences away from new shows even more.
That's me to a tee. It's also why I only get netflix for two or three months a year. They're asking for too much money only to disappoint us over and over again. Final Space, Inside Job, Dirk Gently, Daybreak, Sabrina, Altered Carbon... They trained us not to care about their shows because we'll just get hurt if we do, and lost the money we would've paid otherwise
I refuse to invest time into a show that isn't going anywhere. If a series has only 1 season I might check it out but I don't want to get hooked on something that will die long before it should. I feel like every good show I've watched on Netflix in the last 5 years has gotten cancelled. I know Amazon is the devil, but at least prime doesn't cancel shit at the drop of a hat.
If this is their approach, that's just ridiculous. This would essentially mean, if you care about a show you'd have to watch it immediately upon release. But unless you're bored and very excited, who does that? Even stuff I look forward to I'll probably watch only within a couple of months upon it's release, when I find the time to comfotably engage with it. So their is really no incentive for me to check out new shows, that sound kinda interesting left. If I wasn't hyped from the start it will get cancelled anyway, so why put in a couple of hours to connect with it at all? Also from a business side, this is a highly dubious approach. I can't think of a lot of genres, that have a higher rewatchability factor than adult animation sitcoms. Just think of how Family Guy or Futurama simply refused to die through syndication (the latter several times). Even with just a third season Inside Job could've been a believed gem - instead of the show that had a lot of potential and ends on a cliffhanger, when it was cancelled - so if you like it you'll most likely be more frustrated upon watching, than if you didn't. Scarcely any new viewer will be drawn by that, I believe.
With Netflix being the way it is, I usually refuse to watch new shows produced by them, because they WILL be cancelled within a season or two. I pretty much only watch series with 4+ seasons, now. They've mentioned how they'd like to have shows up for syndication, to up their revenue. THAT'S NOT REALLY POSSIBLE, WHEN YOU END A SERIES AFTER 10-18 EPISODES. They're just so out of touch from reality. They don't understand how people usually watch TV, at all. I'm not going to pretend that I'm the average person, because I'm probably not. But the only shows I can watch when I'm tired, uncomfortable, or preoccupied, are my comfort shows. Maybe around 15-20 different series, all at least 4-6 seasons. Not all comforting subject manner (eg: X-Files, Supernatural, Burn Notice), like sitcoms, but enjoyable for long watch sessions. I like them, because even if I'm preoccupied, I can follow the overall arching plot, and not miss out on too much, because I already mostly know the connections between the characters. I don't need laser focus to follow along, unlike with new series. They can't reach that point, if they cancel everything after 1-2 seasons. It doesn't work that way. And they really don't seem to "get" that.
Their desperation for binge culture is so strange. For me, if I'm really looking forward to a show, I purposefully spead it out, usually watching an episode a night, rather than all at once. Ironically the shows I don't like as much, or don't care about, are the ones I'll put on in the background while cleaning or something, and have them play multiple episodes in one go. Does that mean I like those more? Fuck no, it means I don't give a shit about what's happening so can have them playing while not paying attention. I guess in Netflix eyes, the second option still brings in the bigger numbers so it = better. Pretty glad I've switched to using youtube videos as my background noise now, lol.
So no one is going to talk about the drop in quality? I was excited for season 2, rushed to watch it as soon as I heard it was out. But I struggled to get through every episode and finally dropped it after episode 4. It felt like it became too meta and focused on real life celebrities, rather than presenting conspiracy theories in an interesting way.
I liked season 1 just fine, but season 2's last episode made me cry, and the whole season was absolutely phenomenal. The cancellation is an absolute travesty
I remember watching all of the first part of season one and being excited for a second season not realizing that season one was split into two. And then I saw nothing advertising the release of part two and had no idea it even existed
One issue with Netflix's strategy is that people won't watch new shows until they get a couple of seasons, and we know there's a smaller risk of it getting cancelled.
Breaking Bad’s first season did poorly in numbers because it was overshadowed by Mad Men. It didn’t become as popular as it was until it’s 4th season; imagine if it came out on Netflix today?
It’s really sad being able to watch and enjoy an amazing “female lead” on an adult animation - one that you can relate to in some ways and just enjoy for all her insane behavior. It was an absolute tragedy that this show was cancelled - it had the potential to be a strong contender to shows like Rick & Morty and Futurama. But no…we just get more Bridgerton 🙄 I pray the series is renewed every day.
As a huge fan of The Witcher books, I am dumbfounded by Netflix' insistence on doubling down on their over expensive, horribly received bad adaptation for the Witcher books, while cancelling better and cheaper shows that are made by much better and more passionate artists.
Fan's of the witcher not liking the show, and the show not being watched by the masses are two very different thing. Most reality TV shows weren't well received... they're still the single most profitable form of television out there. Netflix is green lighting things to make money not to please fans of preexisting franchises.
@AlucardNoir I think the main difference between a series like The Witcher and a reality show is the production cost. Making a reality show is dirt cheap in TV production scale, and there are a lot of people who love watching trashy, unpretentious reality shows. The Witcher is an incredibly expensive show that tries to be serious and prestigious (it's their attempt to make a Game of Thrones style hit) but it fails miserably. Their spin-off show "Blood Origin" was both a critical failure and reportedly the least wached show on Netflix, even though it's budget was a bit over 50 million dollars. They could make tens of better shows with this money. The second season of the witche got mixed reviews and the third season comes after a lot of controversies, but they already greenlit a fourth season. They are burning money on this and I don't understand why.
@@TalLikesThat Because it's not a matter of critics or fan ratings but one of viewership. They needed to try blood origin because they'd own a lot more of the IP than they would for an adaptation. And they probably green light the forth season because in spite of what critics say people did in fact watch it. A lot of people do not like Big Mouth, but it's been hit for them. Not because it's good, not because it's bad but because it keeps people watching Netflix. This is what Netflix wants. A lot of people paying month by month to watch what's on their service. They don't care what those people watch. They don't see what's on their service as art. They see it for what it is, a product for the mass market. Also, while I didn't watch the Witcher I was under the impression that the second season did in fact get better reviews that the first. It wasn't liked by fans but it was loved by critics. I might be wrong on that but that's the impression I got and a quick google search seems to confirm it.
This cancellation was what ultimately made me stop using Netflix. Their other controversies were bad but I wasn’t paying for it since it’s a family account so it wasn’t mine to cancel and I had investments in other shows. Which they would also cancel 😑. Now I get why a lot of my favorite content was cancelled. They want something to perform well out the gate and that’s just not how it works anymore. I can’t think of anyone, since the dawn of recording shows on your cable box, that actually set out a time to watch a premier as it aired. And that was well over a decade ago. Netflix proves time and time again how out of touch they are with audiences on a social and business level. I haven’t enjoyed an adult animated show like I did Inside Job probably since Futurama ended. Disenchanted didn’t even hold a candle and that’s by the same creator as Futurama. Screw you, Netflix. At least let the creator take back their project so it can be produced elsewhere.
"Oh no, but Big Mouth got renewed!" I freaking hate how Netflix assumes fans of specific animated shows are also fans of Big Mouth. I swear they do this EVERY FUHKING TIME! Every time a good show is cancelled, they just blurt out "More Big Mouth!"
@@YujiUedaFan I tried watching Big Mouth just to see what the hype was about and it’s just potty humor the show. For so many big name comedians who have written for comedy shows before, they really made an obnoxious and bottom-of-the-barrel show. I actually thought that the spin-off was funnier. Not by much but it still got chuckles out of me. Inside Job, on the other hand, had me rolling sometimes and, unlike Big Mouth, I found some of the characters relatable and interesting. Now we’ll never have the answers to all the questions that were set up in the finale. And those were some heavy questions.
@@nickplayz9726at least final space is getting it's story finished via a graphic novel. (But it still sucks so much that it got cancelled in the first place :( )
I started watching is just bcs I was bored one day,and then I started to love it,its really good and I hope Adult Swim(like someone said here)or someone else picks it up,I really love Sci-Fi shows and this one is on my top favorites
I was legitimately devasted when they announced the cancellation. Such a great show, concept was great, jokes were hilarious, and cast was stellar! At this point someone needs to make a Netflix equivalent of "Killed By Google" because they're just axing anything and everything.
I’m an animation student and according to one of my professors who has friends working at Netflix, the animation team was also essentially worked into the ground and the crunch was pretty brutal at times. Don’t know if that’s relevant or not, but I found it interesting.
@@miriates6065 This is just an educated guess, but it looks like it was done in ToonBoom with puppets, and occasionally some hand drawn animation for certain scenes, like when Brett does that little dance in the episode where Regan is giving out tote bags. I believe the show is mostly 2D, but they may use some 3D elements in background shots or for animating vehicles. I’ve seen other 2D shows do this to save time, a good example is the scene from Bojack Horseman where Butterscotch is ranting at Bojack while driving him home from soccer practice. The background in that scene is entirely 3D. Anything 3D is usually made in either Maya or Blender, but I’m not as well versed in 3D as I am 2D so that’s about all I can offer. I know Maya is often preferred over Blender but that’s slowly changing. Inside Job also adds some minimal 2D shading to the characters, which you don’t always see in 2D shows and I think it’s a really nice touch that shows some extra TLC went into animating the show. That’s about all the insight I can give with my current understanding of industry techniques. Hopefully you found it useful!
@@crisptomato9495 I have one question, why in the hell would you get a job in animation when THIS is your expected future? Like I wouldn't even try to get into an industry that gets like 0 respect.
@@pintolerance785 Yeah man, I think most people who do this for a living are a little off their rocker, and I’m no exception lol. It’s a brain worm that just needs to be scratched for me. Sure animators get the short end of the stick a lot of the time, but hey, they’re still needed. Plus, how many people can say they get paid to make cartoons? Yes, it is stressful and a lot of the time you sacrifice your health and personal life, but cartoons help a lot of kids and adults cope with the shit life throws at them in a way I think other media can’t, and it feels good being a cog in the machine that makes them possible. For me, the lack of respect and overwork is worth it in exchange for getting to do something I love and helping to create things people can fangirl/boy over and relate to. Even if, in the future, I hate some of the projects I work on, I can find purpose in the fact that at least one person out there might take something of value away from it. Hell, it might even be their favourite show, and I help make it exist. That’s why I want to be a professional animator. Also not every studio treats us like garbage, just most of them haha.
HBOMax and Netflix has me so scared to get emotionally invested in ANY western animation right now. I just see people talking about how good something is and my first instinct is "It's gonna suck if I start watching it, get into it, and get canceled on a cliffhanger." Inside Job, Glitch Techs, and Mao Mao were the ones that hurt the most.
Glitch Techs got cancelled!? I am so disappointed. Every single western animated show I'm invested in is always like this now. Final Space...Glitch Techs...Inside Job...thank god Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts was able to be completed before Netflix put them on the chopping block.
That’s how I felt going into inside job. I started watching it when they announced a season renewal… but yeah we know how that went. Now atp idk if we can even trust a renewal anymore 💀
And it can all be blamed on greed! Animation (particularly adult) is expensive, labor/time intensive, or both. So turning out quality animation at the expected rate of streaming is tough. Adult animation has a much bigger market than it gets credit for, but not as big of a market as we sometimes like to act it does. Keep in mind, a market is also who will buy what. Adult animation barely has a market in comparison to kids cartoons. Kids cartoons can get by with less talent across the board and can be turned into mountains of merchandise!! So this leads to some different deals for adult animated properties. Including different royalties. This is why WB/D removed stuff like Infinity Train from HBO. They decided that whatever they had to pay to the creators or whoever to keep in on the platform was more than the theoretical rate of return they got from keeping it. Basically “adequate profit” isn’t enough for these skeeze-lords, and unless it’s turning out profit like the giants of its industry (Rick and morty, family guy, Ect.) then it isn’t worth making at all. Interestingly, you can see a similar thing with the Disney-fixation of Broadway and the sharp increase in expected profits for a historically low rate of return enterprise.
honestly, i knew this show was doomed from the start. netflix and a lot of streaming platforms hate animated shows, and the show didn’t receive a ton of promotion. i’m still so gutted that it was cancelled.
The thing that burns me the most is that we were supposed to get 2 seasons but Netflix arbitrarily changed their mind, if we only got 2 seasons sure I'd be disappointed but at least we'd get what's advertised
So I guess the tactic, if Netflix makes a show you are excited for but can't watch all in one go for whatever reason, is to just play it on a device you aren't using and let it run all the way through. To them, it looks like to binged it and it and completed it which looks good for the stats - and then you can watch again later, and the "rewatch" probably counts for something too.
@@Cherry-ki3ln exactly. One less garbage competitor will motivate the rest to get their act together. For now, netflix is proving that failure is rewarded. Let the baby stamp its feet and let the adults in the room learn how to succeed from its failure.
@@bye1551 speaking my language, writers needs to see that Netflix is not suited for them and that they need to find a better suited company for them to make their creations.
That's literally one of the worst ideas i've heard today. Why would you put yourself through that. At that point you're just paying for netflix so an AI can watch it.
If Netflix is placing blame on their audience for their preferences (which sort of they are) then they're damn fools. I get why this may be case but when you prioritize Dinosaurs and broody documentaries before Jim Henson Muppets in dark fantasy, then where is the worth: The Reward? In a realization, the activity of "Binging" could imply the viewer isn't even watching the series streaming at that time but letting the episodes play-out for atmosphere, completely rendering Netflix's statistic on baseless info. That was something I would do in my household during my High School days.
I’m ignoring how I feel about how I feel about Big Mouth but since it had 5 seasons, of course it’s going to be top 10 for weeks. They had 5 seasons to establish what the hell is going on in the world and the characters. You have to give the show time to grow and make their own world and rules and characters. Look at Bojack and She-Ra. They had a lot of beloved fans and an audience ready to watch new seasons But I really think a lot of shows beside animation had been killed and like, they have giant audiences. Warrior Nuns and another like Science adventure magic show got killed despite the amount of hours it pulled in. I honestly think a lot of Netflix choices suck. Raising streaming prices, You can’t share the account anymore, all the Original content is never going to be completed. It’s so dumb. It makes me wish they would take chances again. I
While i am not the biggest fan of their method, that comparison isnt showing the full picture. Both Bojack and She-ra, and even Big Mouth came out in what was a different era of streaming, when netflix was not only the first name, but one of the only names you could think of if someone was to ask you "what is the best streaming service?" But nowadays things are different, we are in a different era of streaming and streaming services. Not only is netflix no longer king, but there are many other companies with many original shows that people are watching for less money. Again i think it's wrong of them to screw over their viewers, but it's also easy to see that they need shows to take off and hit the ground running with viewership in today streaming and financial climate.
I think I agree with everything except that I think Bojack ended at the right time. I think it's good for a show like that to end while it's still beloved rather than trying to keep it going as long as fans are willing to watch it. I'm not sure if you're saying it should have continued or just that it could have, but I think it ended in a very Bojack way at the right time.
@@petrify4814 i think they were supposed to have 8 seasons, but at the end of the 5th season they were told that season 6 would be the last, so they had time to wrap everything up.
Netflix advertised the HECK out of Big Mouth so it’s unsurprising it did well enough to keep around early on. But they’ve not done that approach to any of their other shows. It’s infuriating.
ok , honestly yeah : i remember i started watching archer because i saw there was a new season and i watched the 13 seasons (134 episodes) in the span of a couple of months ... if other pepole did that as well , of course archer would have ended up in the top 10 ... essentially the top 10 system rewards shows that have a lot of back alogue , and that get new fans ... so inside job was kinda doomed to failure : by getting splitted in two batches it inevitably got his viewership cut in half ... and yeah the fact that each episode of inside job was pretty self contained and satisfactory also cut that : why eat three full meals in one sitting when i can stash them for the following days ? so in short : they don't care about quality , they care about massa addiction ...
The fact that Netflix doesn't see that their own practices would have prevented something like Bojack Horseman to happen should be a MASSIVE red flag for them, I hope some people over there realize this and pressure the company from the inside (job).
@monkeymunchie9717 the rules and philosophies highlighted in this video, especially only investing in shows that are instant hits, whereas they were more lenient in the past, allowing for some hidden gems to develop
Yea, I don't think even Big Mouth was that popular at first, think it wasn't until the 2nd season that the show started to get popular. Their original atleast 2 seasons philosophy was a great one, as most shows need time to settle and simmer and build their cult following. But if Netfliz wont honor this mentality then many good shows will just get cancelled early. Makes no sense. Also, just cause a show gets big hype and big early numbers doesn't mean the audience will stick around. Just means the marketing and ads were good to draw big numbers. Very stupid idea by netflix.
@@Rohan_Trishan This is why it infuriates me that every business only cares about quarterly performance. I don't understand how they think this will be sustainable past a couple more years?? But I genuinely don't think they're taking that into account. Their shareholders only care about this quarter, so next year's performance is irrelevant. The shareholders want to see Number Go Up now.
One of the funniest animated shows I have seen, like Futurama, Rick and Morty with elements of the X-Files and South Park. That's how I'd describe Inside Job, a more ballsy South Park.
I feel like many people would find it like my dad did. He was just on Netflix one day last month, saw the show on his page and started watching it. He was almost done with the second part when I went over to hang out with him, and I had to break the news it was cancelled. Obviously he was miffed, because it happens OFTEN with Netflix and he genuinely liked the show. Idk, it’s a shame.
I found it from my brother watching the last couple episodes, starting from probably S2 E5. I don’t think I fully paid attention to them until he was watching S2 E7. I thought it was cool and wanted to try and watch it myself and managed to finish it in a couple days lol. I was verr disappointed when S2 E8 was the last one lol. Apparently he had already watched it 3 times or smth lol
@@nirn_ Internet and indie animation via donations on patreon and similar sites, make a new animation company over time with profits and work smaller scale. Big projects don't work in the modern industry and they're gonna pay for that, in the meantime indies need to start establishing minor to major studios, congolmerate and network. There's plenty you can do, you just need to be outside of the current system and not participate in it, and network to insure that said industry is left in the dust. It's a rebellion strategy and it will work in time. It's ongoing.
Inside job was literally so good, and i never understood why they canceled it. I was SOOOOOOOOOOO upset. You know what's the worst? As soon as i found out about the first ten episodes, i binged watched it. Was never recommended the second part for so long after its release
Yeah I’m so upset I’m boycotting Netflix. I’ll have to fucking bootleg Bojack and those shows I like. Out of pride. Because I’m so fucking mad. Inside Job was my FAVORITE Netflix show since Bojack wrapped up. And now I’m sad. Really ducking sad.
The issue with the whole "We need another stranger things" vibe that Netflix is going for is that they're cutting off their nose because it's just a little crooked and ruining their entire line up. People come in for the cult classics, the weird shows that got missed on the first go through because something like Wednesday came out the same week. Like, they have to know this. They have cult classics filling their line up. You have to have content to watch after that bingeable show ends. They're like "Hey, at this buffet we only allow turducken with the biggest cuts of fat." and then when that shits eaten and we ask for dessert they're like "Nahhhh, we just got the same turducken, go on, eaaaat" Inside Job, Dead End, and so many more decent, fun, I love to watch this with the whole family shows got canned because other shows made them more money. It's shit business practices
And that it actively anzagonizes audience in the process. Its one thing to be cutthroat, but its other cancalling a lot belived shows that brought in audience, and were watched. And james tullos mentioned how the big and the other not big all support each other. And that they can get big,, and other be there. And that shows need time. To get there. They had banger or potentially good ones. Rarely shows first seasons are good, and being, we saw what happened to inside job. Why would they go for the stranger things vibe anyways. Not that you cant have teenager solve mysteries, or nostalgia but that specific nodtalgia. Why?!
Honestly it’s insane how Netflix went from the pinnacle of entertainment to just the worst service with horrible management. I’m actually disappointed to have cancelled Netflix because I was naively holding out for them to turn things back to the way they were. Even if they do suddenly come out with great shows again, it’s not worth watching and getting invested in the show when you know there’s a solid chance it’ll get cancelled after 2 seasons no matter how good it is. It’s simply not worth it, especially when Netflix isn’t the only player in the market anymore.
Agreed. I used to love Netflix until they started making their own shows. Ok, I gave it a try. There were a few good shows amidst the shit storm. But their moto is basically cancelling shows and making another one even shittier on top. Ok dumbfounded how their business model stays afloat. Even Witcher which was supposed to be an easy win but became so shitty it's unwatchable.
unfortunately since it’s contracted with netflix and netflix is stingy with their originals i don’t think it’s possible to ever do so. the creator made a post on her IG about it. really sucks.
@@vanillavelvet1320 it's unlikely as everyone's struggling for cash right now in a "bear market". Hopefully when the economy improves and people start investing again, maybe Adult Swim can acquire more shows
What’s frustrating is Netflix barely put any marketing towards Inside Job, but will throw all their support behind other projects. I honestly thought Part 2 of S1 was S2 for the longest time. Of course shows aren’t going to pick up an audience if you don’t advertise them. Shows that are already successful like Big Mouth and Stranger Things don’t need to be advertised because they’re already off the ground and extremely culturally salient. Many shows don’t even reach their true potential until their second season, because the first season is where all the growing pains happen. Look at the first half of S1 of Bojack Horseman or S1 of Rick & Morty. Both don’t really hit their strides until a little later.
And the worst thing against the mistreatment odds , inside job did find an audience, and was split whyever. And the pr was probably more people finding conspiracy theorists fun to dunk on and conspiracy theorists doing outrage pr. I think peoole having fun poking at theory theorists outrage picking up thst it exists. Is brilliant marketing. I mean conspiracy theorists did probably way more promotion than netflic ever did. And commenters did oich it up.
S1 of Rick and Morty was only one of two good seasons. I hate how Netflix over-calculates what's popular or not... like everyone has a hive mind and we only ever watch shows in the Top 10 of Netflix. If that were the case there would only BE 10 shows on Netflix!
This is why I plan to unsubscribe from Netflix after finishing everything on my watchlist. What's the point in enjoying any content on a platform if it's doomed to be canceled for not reaching numbers fast enough?
@@kenji7982 Even if you pirate Netflix series the same problem persists: you have a high chance of never getting an ending, so why even bother at all? Would you read a 1000 pages book that's missing the last 500 pages?
I definitely agree that something has to give eventually. I've had to start avoiding new shows because it got to a point where every single new show I watched was cancelled before getting the story wrapped up. It is so frustrating getting invested in a show for it to then end on a cliffhanger or with many loose ends. I wish a streamer would commit to allowing even just one episode to attempt to wrap up a show in some way.
Gutted. Literally found the show two months ago. Sometimes the algorithm shows us stuff late or you're watching other things. Do they know how huge their catalog is!?
This is such a ridiculous approach. People have lives to live outside of binge-watching whatever show that everyone else is talking about immediately, and that's assuming that Netflix actually advertised the show consistently and you didn't find it out through word of mouth. This is only gonna incentivize people to not support new shows on the platform because why bother getting interested when it'll just get canceled after one season?
NEW info came out that Netflix made a lot of deals with showrunners that supposedly incentivized success: the creators would get more bonus money for every season the show gets renewed for. So they might get $100k bonus on top of the base compensation for season 1, but over $1 Million for season 4. Their strategy has been to just cancel everything so they never have to pay the big money.
Ironically, one huge reason why I don't watch everything immediatly to the end is that over the years, there were so many shows I fell in love with, only to see them getting axed prematurely, preferably with a massive cliffhanger. Space: Above and Beyond, Defying Gravity, Farscape, Flash Forward, V, Firefly, The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Terra Nova, The Dead Zone... So if I really like a show or even fall in love with it, I now tend to wait and see _if the show is not getting axed prematurely._ Because why watch it, when all I get in the end will be an extremely unsatisfying cliffhanger? Also ironically, I am binging 'The Manifest' at the moment, which _also_ got axed prematurely by NBC, only to be picked up by Netflix of all things. But apart from that, there generally are very few shows I watch as soon as the episodes come out, even when I am totally hooked, for a variety of reasons. Spare time is a huge factor, of course. Then there are shows I love, but just can not watch every day. When I come home from a nightshift on my cancer ward, I want to watch something that is an easy, mindless watch, I will as sure as hell not watch 'The Glory' or 'Godless'. _That_ I do when I am not both mentally and physically exhausted. And sometimes I just wait until a season is released completely, because I am so addicted that I want to watch the damn whole thing in just a couple of binging sessions.
And the worst part is, looking at the charts, Inside Job would be way higher on the Top 10s if Netflix didn't count each individual season of one fucking series as its own category. This is classic corporate stupidity and we truly do live in a bullshit dystopian future.
Don't worry too much, even Family Guy was cancelled after its first 3 seasons and brought back due to fans growing over the time that it had been off the air and in syndication. I havent yet watched Inside Job but considering Ive heard so much about how good it is, Im going to give it a shot!
You're right that this strategy can only last for so long... There was a time where almost everyone I knew kept an active Netflix subscription, that number fell off as they lost rights to other shows, but it fell off dramatically as they started killing off lots of good show before they could really get going. It's difficult for viewers to care about your new shows when they know they'll most likely be cancelled in their prime. Why get invested in a series that's never going to have its payoff? Why stick around and support the platform that is actively killing anything that isn't an instant megahit?
(This is gonna sound corny) 2 years ago I was moving to new schools. I was really stressed bc I didn’t know how to act (bc I never really met other kids) and I was honestly super scared. While staying at an airBNB I would watch this show. It really hits close to me because this show would make me laugh during m6 darkest moments.knowing that this amazing show is canceled just makes me so mad and upset.
It’s sad to see that a lot of quality shows and especially animated shows whether they be cartoons aimed at family or adult cartoons are getting shut down for bullshit reasons. To all the people who worked on this and all other great cartoon shows we see you and we are all thankful for your hard work and time spent on these works of art.
It's so nice to hear someone talk about this, Inside Job was the first adult animated show that captivated me in such a long time. I believe you're hitting the nail pretty close to the head, that letter from Netflix to the shareholders is very telling...
Such a bummer. Netflix sucks for this. Though I'd like to point out that this all comes down to the long term failure or streaming platforms. They were destined to fail from the beginning, and this is the consequence of that.
Kind of think the same, they divided just to be offered in altogether plans where you have Amazon Hulu and Disney ... Honestly never paying it not interested in they're stuff even HBO it's more attractive to me
they’re tanking themselves at this point… this approach coupled with getting rid of account sharing is going to end them. first big streaming service is going to be one of the first to shut down, mark my words
@@zackarysullivan9019 Blockbuster didn't even shoot themselves in the foot like Netflix has, blockbuster just died because it failed to compete in a changing market, why would people buy dvds when the streaming services exist. It's the same thing that happened to small mom and pops shops after malls and super markets started popping up, and it happened to malls like toys r us even online realtors started popping up. You can't win when it comes to capitalism like this man as soon as something pops up that overshadows you your done, every single thing has an expiration date on this day and age and everybody is just worried about getting their golden parachutes.
@@pintolerance785 Blockbuster was literally offered the chance to buy Netflix and passed on it. They absolutely shot themselves, if not in the foot, then in the head.
Final space, Inside job, and surprisingly Bojack horseman(yes even that despite it's okay ending) cancellations really hurt. Meanwhile, they would greenlit more paradise pd. Then hire the same people responsible on this garbage for farzar. Then renew big mouth multiple times. 😊 like wow
Because they are not a traditional company, if you bring good results they are going to let you do whatever you want, like Nimona and other shows found themselves being saved by Netflix.
I think the biggest contributor to this is the audience of the shows. While both claim to be aimed at adults, big mouths main appeal is to a younger audience with its reliance on edgy, sexual, and gross out humor, while inside job is more oriented at a mature audience that understands and enjoys meta humor and political commentary. Big mouth claims to be an adult show while having no appeal to anyone more mature than a middle schooler. Whether this was the intention of the show or not, it draws in a young audience, an audience with more time on their hands to watch it.
as a big mouth fan: i can agree and disagree to this. adults are capable of enjoying big mouth (for ref, im 18 and my brother who i like to watch the show with is 27). a lot of us adult viewers of the show like to watch it BECAUSE its a gritty and gross view on adolescence cause thats what being a middle schooler is like. obviously its gross and overexaggerated, but its a lot better than the way adolescence is sugarcoated in media. of course i can see why this would appeal to middle schoolers, but I wouldn't chock up the shows value to just be edgy shock humour for 12 y/os.
It's the same as UA-cam. You don't see very many content farms targeting adult audiences. Big Mouth isn't a "content farm", but Netflix knows that keeping around shows that will appeal to younger audiences is more prfitable than shows that only adults would find interesting. I really wonder if Bojack Horseman would have been cancelled if its first season came out later than it did.
Big Mouth is an Adult *wink wink* Show (come get out that teenage horny angst that we like to pretend is not a part of the teenage experience). Whereas Inside Job is an Adult Show (beware ye who hath no media literacy).
Working in TV seems like a terrible idea these days. Shows are far less likely to be picked up and if they are, they get cancelled earlier than what network TV used to be like prior to streaming.
Inside job was my last hope for animated series that isn't from Japan. Maybe things will change in the future. The main thing that anime has going for it, for me, is that i can almost always go to the source material if a show doesn't get a next season.
This is what happens when you let software engineers and data scientist handle content. As some of me who's had a great career as a software engineer, we don't have a place deciding what and how to deliver content. Objectivity is overrated.
Bingo. It's very easy to data mine the crap out of something and say based on these metrics shows that bring in the most money get completed. Instead of focussing on cancelling the worst performing shows they just cancel basically everything that isn't a hit. This means they miss the slow growth shows and things that become hits later on. The chronic short termism is killing entertainment. Honestly if they did this back in the day, 80% of classic shows would not exist because they'd be immediately cancelled. Even shows like breaking bad and game of thrones wouldn't have made it.
You ever watch Barry, it does an amazing job at showing these practices at work, "Yes your show was front page, had a million views, but it wasn't hitting the correct pools of people in the algorithm, so it's canceled."
As soon as a metric becomes a target, it ceases to be a useful metric. This has always been true and you'd think the highly paid consultants and CEOs would have some concept of this by now.
@@paulashla yep. The execs ask analysts to gather and process data so the company can make more money. And it has to be very profitable very quickly, or the execs don’t get their bonuses. Not everything can be quantified. Even with what can be quantified, how do you know the data you’re collecting is all the data you need?
I think they did a bad job promoting it, I didn't know about this show. Why doesn't another network pick it up? I think it's hillarious and so creative.
This exact video is the exact reason that I’m so concerned for the Scott Pilgrim animated series. It seems to fit the exact bill for a show that would probably be really good, but is enough of a slow burn for Netflix to cancel it after one season
As a person that loved "Inside Job" I totally agree with your assessment about Netflix having no faith in its own content and ruining the whole experience for viewers. However, to be the devil's advocate, there's nothing inherently wrong with a show being only one season. As many people who enjoy adult animation know, more mature anime is historically only one short story arc. There's something to be said about a story that can be told entirely contained within 10 - 14 episodes. Often, it's better paced and has a more satisfying ending when the creators know exactly how long their shows are going to be. With that said, if this one season (or two part crap that Netflix likes to do) is the "meta" that Netflix has publicly admitted to in Letters to the Shareholders then so be it. The creators should adopt a creative and story-boarding methodology that adapts to this "meta." They should write self-contained stories that work even if only one season is aired. Obviously, I am not an expert and I have literally no idea what I am talking about and have no idea how any of this actually works. But, it's not impossible to adapt to this weird situation Netflix has forced on its viewers and creative staff. Maybe the industry is treating it too similar to network television, when I have heard several interviews saying that it's absolutely nothing like network television. I dare say that I would almost prefer a world where western animation behaved more like anime... I wonder what kind of amazing storytelling would come out of acknowledging and accepting this change in the "meta."
This honestly just made me not want to watch any Netflix originals until they are fully released I got really hooked into this show but now I know it will never get a second season because line MUST go up 📈
@@sleepy.timaeus.arts. yup it’s short term profit seeking mesures that say hey look we made more profits this quarter even if removing/ canceling shows will just lead to less subscriptions in the future or canceling ones
@@predaderpgaming1042 theyre actually so stupid 😭 when they start getting known as “the canceller” platform and lose subs, then theyll learn. and itll be too late. they getting complaints not just fir this but the raised prices (and for what?? surely dont got the shows to back that up 😒), not allowing accounts to be streamed from different locations, plus a lot of lgbt people feeling like it’s suspicious that a lot of lgbt (and sometimes specifically sapphic) shows have gotten cancelled immediately. they’re trying to get on everyone’s nerves, i swear
It's getting to the point where you don't even want to start a Netflix original because you might really like it and it most likely will get cancelled. Great video. I've still got Netflix because in my country they have a few good (non Netflix) shows I repeatedly watch.
Wasn't a fan of the dialogue in this show, but it had a lot of charm and it's a shame to see projects like this getting killed off. It's wild to see projects being thrown away rather than investigating how to improve it
This show was sort of a guilty pleasure of mine. I didn't think it was very good, but binged it over the Christmas break and really got into it. Did part 1 in 2021 then part 2 in 2022 and I guess it turned into a ritual.
Same thing! Just watched the second part and it was quite absorbing, although some details bothered me.. anyway, the ending was intriguing! I even rewatched the 1st part as we won't have any continuation
what is so wierd to me is the reason legacy media companies are making their own platfroms to compete with netfllix is cause they have many old shows that ran for years people still wanna watch but netflix seems to have no interest in building a llong lalsting catalog they just want heavy hitters which i'm sure will not end well when prices keep going up and people don't wanna gamble that this new show will be worth it.
To save 13 minutes: Inside Job started in the Netflix Top 10 but quickly fell out of it, suggesting a lack of sustained interest. Netflix only wants to fund instant megahits for further seasons. The End.
Fuck, man. This show was really going places! It had a bit of a slow start, but the second part really surprised me in a lot of refreshing ways. I wish they'd given it the time it deserved.
It’s a shame I’ve actually sat through and enjoyed this show, it was the only reason I kept my netflix subscription to be honest. I Hope something can be done about it and someone else picks it up!
This is such a deeply stupid approach. I don't subscribe to Netflix to see a small handful of super-hits, I subscribe so that I have a huge catalog of things to watch of many genres available at any time. The back catalog of old shows, the random niche stuff, that's what I'm here for. It seemed like Netflix used to understand this, it seemed like they were making all kinds of really cool shows and it was awesome. But these days they're obsessed with smash hits, and they really don't seem to have any idea what their audience actually wants. They aren't making the subscription more valuable, they're making it much less. And this is really sad, because Netflix has always had a really special luxury compared to traditional TV: They don't have to deal with scheduling airtime. There's not really competition between one show and another in terms of viewership like there used to be. Netflix doesn't need to make sure their prime-time show is better than another network, and they don't have to cancel shows because they aren't performing well enough to dedicate time to them. They have the ability to just make content, and let viewers have it without all the tactics and games that TV networks had. But for some reason, they have shifted to acting just like traditional TV. If a show isn't getting enough eyes, it's done. It's like they think they need to compete with all the other streaming services... but news flash Netflix: I subscribe to all of them! I watch all the shows. I don't need to choose if I'll tune in to Stranger Things or House of The Dragon! I'll be seeing them both. Give me all the content you can make.
As someone who worked on Inside Job, thank you. It was a real slap in the face to have that pulled out from under us. Along with other projects being cancelled....it's been a bad time for a lot of folk in the Animation Industry.
I hate how lockdown is just a BS excuse for execs to hate on animation, since you CAN animate from home. Instead, they decided that good animated shows are "useless" and just cancel everything in sight until it's all shallow dating shows and foreign imports.
That show was AMAZING. It gave me Futurama vibes, and that’s my favorite adult animation everrrr. Thank you for your service.
Thank you for all your work. I watched Inside Job easily a dozen times over and over. It was funny, clever, insightful, with clean animation and great characters. Was without a doubt one of my favorite shows in the last 10 years (Last show I loved this much was Firefly).The show being cancelled was a big reason why I cancelled my Netflix.
May I ask what you worked on?
@@somegirl8007 I worked as an animator on both seasons which means I have scenes throughout most episodes, and then as a compositor on the second season.
One of my memorable batches was Reagan going off on Rafe in her supervillain costume, and the helicopter scenes where Brett tapes a gun to Air Bud's head(Lighting, not animation this time)... I've also worked on Jake and the Neverland Pirate, Penn Zero, Final Space, The Loud House, Wellie Wishers, DC Superhero Girls, etc.
Netflix needs to realize people have jobs and responsibility. We can't all just sit down and watch a show on release.
Netflix: No because it's your fault for having a life and not watching a show you like 20 times in a row.
Thus is why low brow shows successed cause people that like anything else have jobs
I didn’t find out about Inside Job til it was too late :/
that's not something that some decision making department head who works 15hours a week understands.
inside job showed too much for people to know...
the fact that Big Mouth is getting a 7th season and this got cancelled after it's second makes me indescribably angry. Inside Job is genuinely a funny and interesting concept. It's like if Rick and Morty had some restraint and class, and was about conspiracy theories.
I loved all the characters, the designs, and overall I think the concept was really well executed. I still rewatch it and I will never forgive Netflix for stopping the development of a genuinely enjoyable and funny show.
honestly bro
Not even a second season. Just the second half of the first.
Rick and Morty has plenty of restraint, its simply playing into its story/concept i believe to an appropriate degree
I'm putting that in my quotebook@@redcherry8137
@@doomrider7yeah it wasn’t even a second season it was just part 2
The Inside Job cancellation literally led me to stop giving a shit about anything they produce; how can I get into a show, love it, recommend it over and over and then have to explain to those people “it got cancelled despite being so good.” the binge-watching they push so hard for is literally LITERALLY killing good stories. and yeah part 2 wasnt as great as part 1 but sometimes its bc of network meddling
I actually prefered Part 2.
Idk if it’s the shareholders or what, but Netflix is almost unrecognizable. The same thing is happening with gaming. All these companies are changing up strategies in order to maximize profits. And unnecessarily too.
Unfortunately, killing well-made products is something only an individual cares about, but companies aren't individuals, rather, they are a massive group of different people all working to maximize profits; they don't care about talent or craftsmanship, all they care about is whether that product makes them money or not.
Fr. They’re always cancelling shows
@@alexpineda5960 and when a show doesn't make enough money they cancel rather than thinking about the cause....
Inside job was a breath of fresh air to the animation industry. Its sad to see that it had to be cancelled
On the surface the show seemed to be Rick & Morty inspired. But watching it felt really fresh. Especially since it had good writing, and a story to tell. Something that 99% of adult western animation doesn’t have. The overdone animated sitcoms like Family guy or Paradise PD are low brow simplistic (insert sexual crude joke) Laugh! Shows, that don’t tell a compelling story, or build a fascinating world, hell you don’t even get much for character depth.
People often describe them as shows to turn your brain off to. But that isn’t for me, what I love most is story, and I laugh more at thoughtful humour. Castlevania was the perfect adult show for me, and it went far, yet they still pulled the rug, it didn’t finish its second story arc. And now Inside Job. Yes it wasn’t perfect, but compared to Big Mouth for me it felt like gold. It’s easy to give up on western animation, as we enter another dark age for it, at least the Japanese see the value in the medium.
It was helmed by a writer of Gravity Falls and produced by its creator. Both of these shows excelled at growth and character development/advancement!
It also did a good job of being a culturally diverse and explored multiple backgrounds and experiences… without ever feeling forced…. They just told stories for real people to enjoy.
Brett is the perfect example of this. Made fun of and vilified the toxicity of certain aspects of white masculinity, while also showing how it can happen to an individual and what both rehabilitation and understanding look like. These things became hurdles for Brett as a character instead of barriers to his development. Every episode you felt like the entire cast grew or withered in fascinating ways.
Basically the antithesis of Velma in every way!
And worse, inside job pioneered their model. Pretty sucessful i might add.
Do even more baffling.
Its also bad showrunning.
Ok the real reason is so much worsecand wont gice them shows with longlivity, like inside job.
It also actively harms shows that are smarter, but potential to become cults.
Which netflix needs to keep being relevant.
@@dabroster8427 I call those shows Go Animate shows, because they look like they were animated by a 15 year old on go animate.
same
I was a background artist on the show, (and was potentially going to be BG Lead on Season 2,) and just want to clarify: two episodes in part 2 were cut because part 1 was overbudget and behind schedule. Part 1 and 2 were made back-to-back as one work order, and 2 episodes were cut from Part 2 WHILE we were still working on Part 1. We finished Part 2 long before Part 1 ever aired. Cutting two episodes balanced the budget and got us caught up with the original production schedule.
Anyway Star Trek Lower Decks (another show I've worked on) is a good example of letting a show find its footing with more than one or two seasons. Lower Decks had a questionable start, but has been really growing into its own since Season 3, S4 is going well, while S5 is currently in production. More of this in the industry, please!
is there a chance inside job would have a comeback?
@@KenYahh I would say it's extremely unlikely, as with all other Netflix animated shows. Netflix has dissolved its animation studio and will only either outright buy (finished productions from other studios) or fully outsource animated shows from now on. Inside Job was an in-house production, so I think it died along with Netflix Animation Studios. Other shows announced recently such as 'Carol' were actually made all the way back in 2021.
I know this might be off topic but the Pacing is a bit too fast
Hi I’ve always wanted to get into animation but never really known where to start I was wonder if you could speak on how you got to working on those shows and where you started your art/animation career??
What about if we start a kickstarter/gofundme/fundraiser?
Netflix would have cancelled Breaking Bad after season 1 lol
Good thing AMC had it in good hands
@@Lunteer69 AMC isn’t much better since yk, everything they did to Pantheon
Does this compare to Nickelodeon cancelling Harvy Beaks, because it did not become popular fast enough like Spongebob Squarepants?
@@sketchs_art_corner True
Fax
The idea of watching like 10 episodes of a show within 2/3 days just to make it look like a success for company that produced it is not going to make the show as enjoyable as it should be.
right? i didn't even start s2 until 3-4 weeks after it came out.
@@aejones233 you need to get on their time
I’m just gonna play it on something mute it so it auto goes through it all and I can then watch it later
@@CreamCakes420 but don't do that for the shows you don't like because most likely we don't like them either
Yeah it's a good way to be forgotten too as a flash in the pan kind of show.
I just binged the whole series and I'm so upset that there won't be more. We need to make them bring it back. Inside job really had the potential to be the next futurama. It was genuinely hilarious and I loved every second of it
Yess!
Well, you have a taste very different from mine. I really enjoy Futurama but inside job looks pretty boring for me. I think closing it was the right decision.
Not for the fans. Maybe it needed more time to cook for season 2
Well I hope it gets the same treatment as futurama
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we live in a f'cking world where big mouth got like 5 seasons and inside job got 1. I hate it here
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@@Lunteer69inside job was one season. It was split into part 1 and part 2
@@coproliteeater5005 ooooh sorry I didn’t know
Well both have good qualities.
@@heitorpedrodegodoi5646 what
Seriously, I've been so upset over this. The way Netflix runs themselves as a company is absolutely ridiculous, it completely strips the creators who work on projects like Inside Job of any air to breathe. Creativity has no place in a trapping corporate place like Netflix, and it hurts to see some of my favorite shows be cancelled because of it.
i fucking hate netflix for releasing good stuff i actually like watching and taking it away because you didn't do a good enough job marketing it. it's one of the best shows ive stumbled across in a while, and it's not lazily made, which seems more and more uncommon with netflix as they just make sloppy cash grab after sloppy cash grab. RIP inside job, the show never deserved this. :(
Cancelling Inside Job was what drove me off of Netflix. Forever.
Fuck Netflix.
@@Snow-de3ny at least we still have big mouth, HAHAHAHAHA (cries) wtf is wrong with netflix for cancelling all the good shit. makes me mad that all they care abt is ratings and money.
Now we have AI trained on cheesers
@@Snow-de3ny wha....they didn't cancel bojack.
I never heard of Inside Job until May 2023, seven months after Part 2 was released. I watched shows like Bojack and Big Mouth, but the Netflix algorithm never recommended the show to me. It wasn't until my uncle turned it on two in the morning when I probably should've been sleeping because I had an early flight to catch. But I didn't sleep, I was HOOKED immediately by the show because it was relatable from episode one. The last animated series to hook me in like this was Over the Garden Wall. Inside Job addressed hilarious and relevant topics, like the dangers of nostalgia, and included a cast of very likable/relatable characters. I didn't find out the show was cancelled until finishing Part 1, so I had to savor each episode until now. I just finished the series. I'm livid because this was a GREAT show. Inside Job's quality stood out among most of Netflix's content, and I'm not about to sit and let myself become malnourished of such artistic humor. This was a masterpiece in its own right and I've never watched a cartoon that I found so relevant be thrown out for the sake of numbers.
Maybe Netflix should put a little effort in advertising this since they spent so much on it. Maybe I would have discovered it earlier, before it was too late.
Regarding the UA-cam video, @Mr.Cow your explanation was stunning. Thank you for clearly verbalizing this in a way that made the put down easy to digest.
For real me too!!!!
Same. I watched both those shows and I wasn’t recommended this until 3 months ago. I wish I saw it when it was released. I feel like Netflix didn’t advertise it enough to an audience that would enjoy it
What I find the most frustrating is that I didn't even know when this was being released? They just silently released it and I happened to stumble across it... I've noticed a trend in this when it comes to Netflix's animated series? They don't spend ANY advertising on it and then expect the shows to get in top 10??? When we don't even know they exist??
They should have been surprised it jumped to top 10 in the first week despite no marketing
It was already cancelled when I found out about it lol
Seemed like something that could have been really fun
I started the show after its cancellation and Im devastated didn't know about it first.
it WAS in the top 10
*Cough Cough* Kid Cosmic *Cough Cough.* Such an underrated Craig McCracken show. If it was actually advertised it could be more popular.
netflix really is putting the responsibility on the viewers. i remember when season 2 of the show young royals came out and the entire fan community came together and rewatched it over and over again for weeks on end and kept it in the top 10 just to make sure it would get its final season. and it worked. people shouldnt have to be putting in hours and hours a day into a show everyday just to keep it from getting cut
Netflix: It's your fault for having a life and not watching a show you like 20 times in a row.
Maybe we oughta do this and see if they’ll bring it back
And yet I still only now learned they even got a 2. Season
Jupiter's legacy was top 3 from release to cancelation. This is not what NF is looking at to cancel things. It's something deeper.
i think another issue with this cancellation is people using illegal streaming services (which has become way more popular now) to watch the shows instead of watching it on netflix itself so that it can get the right amount of views to be able to be renewed for another season
Netflix does with seasons what used to be done with pilots. You know, PILOTS? The thing you do when you want to prod an audience and see if people like something? Netflix is actively regressing. It makes no financial sense to produce a show and cancel it after one season. It‘s expensive, it‘s off-putting for consumers, and it‘s not sustainable for a network image. If you don‘t know if something will click with audiences, make a pilot episode or movie or whatever and see how people respond. And if you‘re confident something will work out and greenlight a season don‘t get cold balls and cancel the show after just one single season just because there isn‘t a die hard following yet. It‘s like the company is run by out-of-touch idiots that have never actually had to perform in a competitive setting.
this >>>>>
Imagine if UA-cam cut channels off if they couldn't get top viewership. We would be left with horrible click bait, broad appeal crap and the platform would lose all character. That's exactly what's happening to Netflix.
UA-cam doesn't typically commission content for channels. The UA-cam Original content that they are responsible for financing is subject to a lot of the same incentives as Netflix, cuts and performance metrics included.
So.... exactly what is happening on youtube.
that is littarally allready youtube like damn allmost every youtuber does that and some even need to do it otherwise they cant grow their audience on this shit website
@@okkefaber9993 But they don't need to grow there audience. The problem isn't the lack of audience, it's people like you, for exemple, who take the small audience numbers as a lack of quality in there content. This mentality has to change.
Well when you put it like that, that makes me wanna break Netflix’s legs!
It has to be pointed out, Netflix waited an ENTIRE YEAR to air the second half of season 1. I was a huge fan of the first 10 episodes, and even I was starting to forget about the show by the time we received any information about when the rest would air. And when it finally did, and I saw it was only 8 episodes instead of the expected 10, I knew it was doomed.
That year gap was why I assumed those next episodes were season two and was very surprised when I found out it was just the res of season one
😢😢
@@Doomsword0 This video is me finding out that this wasn't season 2!
It's pretty common for a studio to wait 8-12 months, sometimes longer, to release the second cour of a season. Generally speaking, when a series is parsed like this it's because of production issues, which can lead to much longer delays; you can look at it as a second season, but it's generally still "season 1" because of how the series was contractually defined.
This isn't a valid reason to conclude that something will fail; you were just making guesses. The fact that your guesses ended up being correct doesn't prove anything, they were still blind guesses (not even educated guesses, because there is no foundational evidence or industry support for your hypothesis, it's just wild speculation).
@@deusdamnit I bet you're tons of fun at parties.
It's like Netflix mines for precious stones, but only wants diamonds.
I would also like to add, to anyone reading, I was one of the people that DID NOT KNOW this show existed until after its cancellation. It is exactly up my alley and was 100% to my tastes, and yet the marketing felt non-existent. And I am an animation consumer (I watched Castlevania, Tuca & Bertie, etc, etc) so I am not sure why not a single algorithm put this show in my path. I can't express how upset I am that HUNDREDS of fans like me are probably part of the reason we aren't seeing a continuation. We just didn't know it was out there. I know the show saw a huge spike in viewership after its cancellation and that is even more upsetting. I would argue the IJ fanbase is bigger now than ever before and fans would flock to see a revival.
Yeah I literally only found out about it last week and didn’t know it was cancelled until Thursday or smth. I was so annoyed I stayed up until 2am lol
*THIS!*
I binged watched the first part and I did not get pushed to watch the second part AT ALL. I feel awful that I didn’t binge the second part but I can’t always watch stuff as soon as it’s released and can’t always watch it all it one go either! It’s pure capitalism that they expect us to work and survive and yet non stop consume every piece of media that comes out as soon as it does.
I think I'd cry if it was announced. For the first monthes I'd literally shed a tear everytime someone mentionned the show 😭😭
somtimes i feel like they intentionaly supress actualy creative stuff
This show was actually creative, funny, and handled the conspiracy concept really a-politcal
Thats because they go after the lunacy both parties partake in.
Huh here I thought I was the only who watched this show. None of my friends watched it and I never saw anyone ever talked about this show until I saw this video. I thought it was one of the better stuff they put out in the past few years.
@@Lawrence_Talbot nah it was a big deal. Anything that has "alex hirsch" somewhere in credits will instantly draw crowds
it was like rick and morty. there were so many hilarious scenes
@@spaghetti5914 who?
This looks like something I would have really enjoyed but I was never shown this on my Netflix homepage. What a shame that Netflix lack of promotion for the show probably contributed to its downfall
Inside job is on a long list of Netflix shows that truly deserved to be given a chance. Netflix can pay a billion dollars for Friends but can’t spend that money on good content.
Or they continue to fuck up decent shows like The Witcher by hiring people who don't even like the source material.
@@jasonmiller6181 There's also the new Dragons series, which somehow not only SUCKS, it's also written by the same people as RttE.
*cough* *cough* kid cosmic *cough* *cough*
Justice for Santa Clarita Diet! ✊🏽
Dark Crystal" age of resistence, absolutely stunning visuals, they built up the story, and then wam, they didnt even give it a chance, if a 2nd season happened, it would of really driven more hype to it
What’s especially stupid is that Netflix’s habit of canceling shows that aren’t immediate hits everyone watches to their season’s end has conditioned some of their audience to avoid shows until they conclude for fear of getting attached to a show Netflix will just cancel; which causes Netflix to cancel more shows and drive audiences away from new shows even more.
100% this I wish I could paint this comment on a netflix exec's wall
@@cheeseflannel8343 They wouldn't listen cause they know better than the customers
This is literally why I don’t watch any TV anymore basically lol unless it’s from a property I already like
That's me to a tee. It's also why I only get netflix for two or three months a year. They're asking for too much money only to disappoint us over and over again. Final Space, Inside Job, Dirk Gently, Daybreak, Sabrina, Altered Carbon... They trained us not to care about their shows because we'll just get hurt if we do, and lost the money we would've paid otherwise
I refuse to invest time into a show that isn't going anywhere. If a series has only 1 season I might check it out but I don't want to get hooked on something that will die long before it should. I feel like every good show I've watched on Netflix in the last 5 years has gotten cancelled. I know Amazon is the devil, but at least prime doesn't cancel shit at the drop of a hat.
i fell in love immediately with this show and it sucks that we'll never get more of it :(
If this is their approach, that's just ridiculous. This would essentially mean, if you care about a show you'd have to watch it immediately upon release. But unless you're bored and very excited, who does that? Even stuff I look forward to I'll probably watch only within a couple of months upon it's release, when I find the time to comfotably engage with it. So their is really no incentive for me to check out new shows, that sound kinda interesting left. If I wasn't hyped from the start it will get cancelled anyway, so why put in a couple of hours to connect with it at all?
Also from a business side, this is a highly dubious approach. I can't think of a lot of genres, that have a higher rewatchability factor than adult animation sitcoms. Just think of how Family Guy or Futurama simply refused to die through syndication (the latter several times). Even with just a third season Inside Job could've been a believed gem - instead of the show that had a lot of potential and ends on a cliffhanger, when it was cancelled - so if you like it you'll most likely be more frustrated upon watching, than if you didn't. Scarcely any new viewer will be drawn by that, I believe.
The only shows I watch week to week are those I'm watching to waste time. I can't do that with a show I like, it would kill me.
With Netflix being the way it is, I usually refuse to watch new shows produced by them, because they WILL be cancelled within a season or two. I pretty much only watch series with 4+ seasons, now.
They've mentioned how they'd like to have shows up for syndication, to up their revenue. THAT'S NOT REALLY POSSIBLE, WHEN YOU END A SERIES AFTER 10-18 EPISODES.
They're just so out of touch from reality. They don't understand how people usually watch TV, at all. I'm not going to pretend that I'm the average person, because I'm probably not. But the only shows I can watch when I'm tired, uncomfortable, or preoccupied, are my comfort shows. Maybe around 15-20 different series, all at least 4-6 seasons. Not all comforting subject manner (eg: X-Files, Supernatural, Burn Notice), like sitcoms, but enjoyable for long watch sessions. I like them, because even if I'm preoccupied, I can follow the overall arching plot, and not miss out on too much, because I already mostly know the connections between the characters. I don't need laser focus to follow along, unlike with new series.
They can't reach that point, if they cancel everything after 1-2 seasons. It doesn't work that way. And they really don't seem to "get" that.
Their desperation for binge culture is so strange. For me, if I'm really looking forward to a show, I purposefully spead it out, usually watching an episode a night, rather than all at once.
Ironically the shows I don't like as much, or don't care about, are the ones I'll put on in the background while cleaning or something, and have them play multiple episodes in one go. Does that mean I like those more? Fuck no, it means I don't give a shit about what's happening so can have them playing while not paying attention.
I guess in Netflix eyes, the second option still brings in the bigger numbers so it = better.
Pretty glad I've switched to using youtube videos as my background noise now, lol.
Netflix is unaware that the common man has to work for a livin'.
So no one is going to talk about the drop in quality? I was excited for season 2, rushed to watch it as soon as I heard it was out. But I struggled to get through every episode and finally dropped it after episode 4. It felt like it became too meta and focused on real life celebrities, rather than presenting conspiracy theories in an interesting way.
I liked season 1 just fine, but season 2's last episode made me cry, and the whole season was absolutely phenomenal. The cancellation is an absolute travesty
SAME!!! and after i finally stopped crying i literally said “i can’t wait for season 3!!!!” 🙂😐😕🙁☹️😤😠😡🤬
netflix really said lol shutup fuck you
The show only has one season.
@@Alcoholic_NerdPart One and Part Two.
@lilli2141 Yes part one and part two, of season 1... .
Meanwhile you get so many shitty shows on the platform you have to swim in shit before you find something good.
I remember watching all of the first part of season one and being excited for a second season not realizing that season one was split into two. And then I saw nothing advertising the release of part two and had no idea it even existed
One issue with Netflix's strategy is that people won't watch new shows until they get a couple of seasons, and we know there's a smaller risk of it getting cancelled.
Breaking Bad’s first season did poorly in numbers because it was overshadowed by Mad Men. It didn’t become as popular as it was until it’s 4th season; imagine if it came out on Netflix today?
It’s really sad being able to watch and enjoy an amazing “female lead” on an adult animation - one that you can relate to in some ways and just enjoy for all her insane behavior. It was an absolute tragedy that this show was cancelled - it had the potential to be a strong contender to shows like Rick & Morty and Futurama. But no…we just get more Bridgerton 🙄 I pray the series is renewed every day.
You gave me a new reason to be sad about this. :/
As a huge fan of The Witcher books, I am dumbfounded by Netflix' insistence on doubling down on their over expensive, horribly received bad adaptation for the Witcher books, while cancelling better and cheaper shows that are made by much better and more passionate artists.
Fan's of the witcher not liking the show, and the show not being watched by the masses are two very different thing. Most reality TV shows weren't well received... they're still the single most profitable form of television out there. Netflix is green lighting things to make money not to please fans of preexisting franchises.
@AlucardNoir I think the main difference between a series like The Witcher and a reality show is the production cost. Making a reality show is dirt cheap in TV production scale, and there are a lot of people who love watching trashy, unpretentious reality shows. The Witcher is an incredibly expensive show that tries to be serious and prestigious (it's their attempt to make a Game of Thrones style hit) but it fails miserably. Their spin-off show "Blood Origin" was both a critical failure and reportedly the least wached show on Netflix, even though it's budget was a bit over 50 million dollars. They could make tens of better shows with this money. The second season of the witche got mixed reviews and the third season comes after a lot of controversies, but they already greenlit a fourth season. They are burning money on this and I don't understand why.
@@TalLikesThat Because it's not a matter of critics or fan ratings but one of viewership. They needed to try blood origin because they'd own a lot more of the IP than they would for an adaptation. And they probably green light the forth season because in spite of what critics say people did in fact watch it. A lot of people do not like Big Mouth, but it's been hit for them. Not because it's good, not because it's bad but because it keeps people watching Netflix. This is what Netflix wants. A lot of people paying month by month to watch what's on their service. They don't care what those people watch. They don't see what's on their service as art. They see it for what it is, a product for the mass market.
Also, while I didn't watch the Witcher I was under the impression that the second season did in fact get better reviews that the first. It wasn't liked by fans but it was loved by critics. I might be wrong on that but that's the impression I got and a quick google search seems to confirm it.
It’s because it isn’t about money.
It's because the brain dead masses love the series; the cost of the show + the show having an abusrd amount of fans is what keeps it alive, sadly.
This cancellation was what ultimately made me stop using Netflix. Their other controversies were bad but I wasn’t paying for it since it’s a family account so it wasn’t mine to cancel and I had investments in other shows. Which they would also cancel 😑. Now I get why a lot of my favorite content was cancelled. They want something to perform well out the gate and that’s just not how it works anymore. I can’t think of anyone, since the dawn of recording shows on your cable box, that actually set out a time to watch a premier as it aired. And that was well over a decade ago. Netflix proves time and time again how out of touch they are with audiences on a social and business level. I haven’t enjoyed an adult animated show like I did Inside Job probably since Futurama ended. Disenchanted didn’t even hold a candle and that’s by the same creator as Futurama. Screw you, Netflix. At least let the creator take back their project so it can be produced elsewhere.
"Oh no, but Big Mouth got renewed!" I freaking hate how Netflix assumes fans of specific animated shows are also fans of Big Mouth. I swear they do this EVERY FUHKING TIME! Every time a good show is cancelled, they just blurt out "More Big Mouth!"
@@YujiUedaFan I tried watching Big Mouth just to see what the hype was about and it’s just potty humor the show. For so many big name comedians who have written for comedy shows before, they really made an obnoxious and bottom-of-the-barrel show. I actually thought that the spin-off was funnier. Not by much but it still got chuckles out of me. Inside Job, on the other hand, had me rolling sometimes and, unlike Big Mouth, I found some of the characters relatable and interesting. Now we’ll never have the answers to all the questions that were set up in the finale. And those were some heavy questions.
Netflix is deathly allergic to good choices
Inside Job was literally my comfort show. I still cannot believe after 6 months that it has been cancelled.
watch final space, its cancelled too but its if not better, then just as good.
@@nickplayz9726at least final space is getting it's story finished via a graphic novel. (But it still sucks so much that it got cancelled in the first place :( )
did adult swim picking inside job not go anywhere?
@@gwrgrw4077 we’d don’t know, but I hope they’ll chose to air it in their channel
I started watching is just bcs I was bored one day,and then I started to love it,its really good and I hope Adult Swim(like someone said here)or someone else picks it up,I really love Sci-Fi shows and this one is on my top favorites
I was legitimately devasted when they announced the cancellation. Such a great show, concept was great, jokes were hilarious, and cast was stellar! At this point someone needs to make a Netflix equivalent of "Killed By Google" because they're just axing anything and everything.
Swear Netflix be canceling everything for big mouth
real nd big mouth is bad
I’m an animation student and according to one of my professors who has friends working at Netflix, the animation team was also essentially worked into the ground and the crunch was pretty brutal at times. Don’t know if that’s relevant or not, but I found it interesting.
That's interesting, do you have any idear on how inside job was animated? Or what programs were used? I'm guessing it's 3D with a 2D shader?
@@miriates6065 This is just an educated guess, but it looks like it was done in ToonBoom with puppets, and occasionally some hand drawn animation for certain scenes, like when Brett does that little dance in the episode where Regan is giving out tote bags. I believe the show is mostly 2D, but they may use some 3D elements in background shots or for animating vehicles. I’ve seen other 2D shows do this to save time, a good example is the scene from Bojack Horseman where Butterscotch is ranting at Bojack while driving him home from soccer practice. The background in that scene is entirely 3D. Anything 3D is usually made in either Maya or Blender, but I’m not as well versed in 3D as I am 2D so that’s about all I can offer. I know Maya is often preferred over Blender but that’s slowly changing. Inside Job also adds some minimal 2D shading to the characters, which you don’t always see in 2D shows and I think it’s a really nice touch that shows some extra TLC went into animating the show. That’s about all the insight I can give with my current understanding of industry techniques. Hopefully you found it useful!
@@miriates6065 It's animated in Harmony, a 2D digital animation program
@@crisptomato9495 I have one question, why in the hell would you get a job in animation when THIS is your expected future? Like I wouldn't even try to get into an industry that gets like 0 respect.
@@pintolerance785 Yeah man, I think most people who do this for a living are a little off their rocker, and I’m no exception lol. It’s a brain worm that just needs to be scratched for me. Sure animators get the short end of the stick a lot of the time, but hey, they’re still needed. Plus, how many people can say they get paid to make cartoons? Yes, it is stressful and a lot of the time you sacrifice your health and personal life, but cartoons help a lot of kids and adults cope with the shit life throws at them in a way I think other media can’t, and it feels good being a cog in the machine that makes them possible. For me, the lack of respect and overwork is worth it in exchange for getting to do something I love and helping to create things people can fangirl/boy over and relate to. Even if, in the future, I hate some of the projects I work on, I can find purpose in the fact that at least one person out there might take something of value away from it. Hell, it might even be their favourite show, and I help make it exist. That’s why I want to be a professional animator. Also not every studio treats us like garbage, just most of them haha.
HBOMax and Netflix has me so scared to get emotionally invested in ANY western animation right now. I just see people talking about how good something is and my first instinct is "It's gonna suck if I start watching it, get into it, and get canceled on a cliffhanger."
Inside Job, Glitch Techs, and Mao Mao were the ones that hurt the most.
Glitch Techs got cancelled!? I am so disappointed. Every single western animated show I'm invested in is always like this now. Final Space...Glitch Techs...Inside Job...thank god Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts was able to be completed before Netflix put them on the chopping block.
That’s how I felt going into inside job. I started watching it when they announced a season renewal… but yeah we know how that went. Now atp idk if we can even trust a renewal anymore 💀
@@petalleaf2808 Not explicitly but its been years since any update and its netflix and im not about to hope again
And it can all be blamed on greed! Animation (particularly adult) is expensive, labor/time intensive, or both. So turning out quality animation at the expected rate of streaming is tough. Adult animation has a much bigger market than it gets credit for, but not as big of a market as we sometimes like to act it does. Keep in mind, a market is also who will buy what. Adult animation barely has a market in comparison to kids cartoons. Kids cartoons can get by with less talent across the board and can be turned into mountains of merchandise!! So this leads to some different deals for adult animated properties. Including different royalties. This is why WB/D removed stuff like Infinity Train from HBO. They decided that whatever they had to pay to the creators or whoever to keep in on the platform was more than the theoretical rate of return they got from keeping it.
Basically “adequate profit” isn’t enough for these skeeze-lords, and unless it’s turning out profit like the giants of its industry (Rick and morty, family guy, Ect.) then it isn’t worth making at all.
Interestingly, you can see a similar thing with the Disney-fixation of Broadway and the sharp increase in expected profits for a historically low rate of return enterprise.
If they ruin invincible I’ll cry
honestly, i knew this show was doomed from the start. netflix and a lot of streaming platforms hate animated shows, and the show didn’t receive a ton of promotion. i’m still so gutted that it was cancelled.
The thing that burns me the most is that we were supposed to get 2 seasons but Netflix arbitrarily changed their mind, if we only got 2 seasons sure I'd be disappointed but at least we'd get what's advertised
So I guess the tactic, if Netflix makes a show you are excited for but can't watch all in one go for whatever reason, is to just play it on a device you aren't using and let it run all the way through. To them, it looks like to binged it and it and completed it which looks good for the stats - and then you can watch again later, and the "rewatch" probably counts for something too.
*Screams in data plan cap*
Or don't. Don't play their game. Let them cancel themselves into the ground
@@Cherry-ki3ln exactly. One less garbage competitor will motivate the rest to get their act together. For now, netflix is proving that failure is rewarded. Let the baby stamp its feet and let the adults in the room learn how to succeed from its failure.
@@bye1551 speaking my language, writers needs to see that Netflix is not suited for them and that they need to find a better suited company for them to make their creations.
That's literally one of the worst ideas i've heard today. Why would you put yourself through that. At that point you're just paying for netflix so an AI can watch it.
If Netflix is placing blame on their audience for their preferences (which sort of they are) then they're damn fools. I get why this may be case but when you prioritize Dinosaurs and broody documentaries before Jim Henson Muppets in dark fantasy, then where is the worth: The Reward? In a realization, the activity of "Binging" could imply the viewer isn't even watching the series streaming at that time but letting the episodes play-out for atmosphere, completely rendering Netflix's statistic on baseless info. That was something I would do in my household during my High School days.
I’m ignoring how I feel about how I feel about Big Mouth but since it had 5 seasons, of course it’s going to be top 10 for weeks. They had 5 seasons to establish what the hell is going on in the world and the characters. You have to give the show time to grow and make their own world and rules and characters. Look at Bojack and She-Ra. They had a lot of beloved fans and an audience ready to watch new seasons
But I really think a lot of shows beside animation had been killed and like, they have giant audiences. Warrior Nuns and another like Science adventure magic show got killed despite the amount of hours it pulled in.
I honestly think a lot of Netflix choices suck. Raising streaming prices, You can’t share the account anymore, all the Original content is never going to be completed. It’s so dumb. It makes me wish they would take chances again. I
While i am not the biggest fan of their method, that comparison isnt showing the full picture. Both Bojack and She-ra, and even Big Mouth came out in what was a different era of streaming, when netflix was not only the first name, but one of the only names you could think of if someone was to ask you "what is the best streaming service?" But nowadays things are different, we are in a different era of streaming and streaming services. Not only is netflix no longer king, but there are many other companies with many original shows that people are watching for less money. Again i think it's wrong of them to screw over their viewers, but it's also easy to see that they need shows to take off and hit the ground running with viewership in today streaming and financial climate.
I think I agree with everything except that I think Bojack ended at the right time. I think it's good for a show like that to end while it's still beloved rather than trying to keep it going as long as fans are willing to watch it. I'm not sure if you're saying it should have continued or just that it could have, but I think it ended in a very Bojack way at the right time.
@@petrify4814 i think they were supposed to have 8 seasons, but at the end of the 5th season they were told that season 6 would be the last, so they had time to wrap everything up.
Netflix advertised the HECK out of Big Mouth so it’s unsurprising it did well enough to keep around early on. But they’ve not done that approach to any of their other shows. It’s infuriating.
ok , honestly yeah : i remember i started watching archer because i saw there was a new season and i watched the 13 seasons (134 episodes) in the span of a couple of months ...
if other pepole did that as well , of course archer would have ended up in the top 10 ...
essentially the top 10 system rewards shows that have a lot of back alogue , and that get new fans ...
so inside job was kinda doomed to failure : by getting splitted in two batches it inevitably got his viewership cut in half ...
and yeah the fact that each episode of inside job was pretty self contained and satisfactory also cut that :
why eat three full meals in one sitting when i can stash them for the following days ?
so in short : they don't care about quality , they care about massa addiction ...
The fact that Netflix doesn't see that their own practices would have prevented something like Bojack Horseman to happen should be a MASSIVE red flag for them, I hope some people over there realize this and pressure the company from the inside (job).
What do you mean "their own practices."
@monkeymunchie9717 the rules and philosophies highlighted in this video, especially only investing in shows that are instant hits, whereas they were more lenient in the past, allowing for some hidden gems to develop
Yea, I don't think even Big Mouth was that popular at first, think it wasn't until the 2nd season that the show started to get popular. Their original atleast 2 seasons philosophy was a great one, as most shows need time to settle and simmer and build their cult following. But if Netfliz wont honor this mentality then many good shows will just get cancelled early. Makes no sense. Also, just cause a show gets big hype and big early numbers doesn't mean the audience will stick around. Just means the marketing and ads were good to draw big numbers. Very stupid idea by netflix.
@@Rohan_Trishan This is why it infuriates me that every business only cares about quarterly performance. I don't understand how they think this will be sustainable past a couple more years?? But I genuinely don't think they're taking that into account. Their shareholders only care about this quarter, so next year's performance is irrelevant. The shareholders want to see Number Go Up now.
One of the funniest animated shows I have seen, like Futurama, Rick and Morty with elements of the X-Files and South Park. That's how I'd describe Inside Job, a more ballsy South Park.
I feel like many people would find it like my dad did. He was just on Netflix one day last month, saw the show on his page and started watching it. He was almost done with the second part when I went over to hang out with him, and I had to break the news it was cancelled. Obviously he was miffed, because it happens OFTEN with Netflix and he genuinely liked the show. Idk, it’s a shame.
Your dad sounds cool lol
I found it from my brother watching the last couple episodes, starting from probably S2 E5. I don’t think I fully paid attention to them until he was watching S2 E7. I thought it was cool and wanted to try and watch it myself and managed to finish it in a couple days lol. I was verr disappointed when S2 E8 was the last one lol. Apparently he had already watched it 3 times or smth lol
I think one “good” thing about this is that it lets producers looking for a platform for their show know what companies to avoid
there is nowhere to run
@@nirn_ Internet and indie animation via donations on patreon and similar sites, make a new animation company over time with profits and work smaller scale. Big projects don't work in the modern industry and they're gonna pay for that, in the meantime indies need to start establishing minor to major studios, congolmerate and network. There's plenty you can do, you just need to be outside of the current system and not participate in it, and network to insure that said industry is left in the dust. It's a rebellion strategy and it will work in time. It's ongoing.
Yep it’s always a better feeling to finish a story.
Than to get involved with a story, only for a non artist to cancel or ruin it.
love it when i find a show i love on netflix then finish it just to learn it was canceled because not enough people watched it "in time"
Inside job was literally so good, and i never understood why they canceled it. I was SOOOOOOOOOOO upset. You know what's the worst? As soon as i found out about the first ten episodes, i binged watched it. Was never recommended the second part for so long after its release
Yeah I’m so upset I’m boycotting Netflix. I’ll have to fucking bootleg Bojack and those shows I like. Out of pride. Because I’m so fucking mad. Inside Job was my FAVORITE Netflix show since Bojack wrapped up. And now I’m sad. Really ducking sad.
Ditto, I binged the first part as soon as it came out and I knew it existed but I wasn’t prompted to watch the second part at all.
@@imanijohnson1340 (flixer) its not that hard to find (+) places online
We can bring it back like they changed sonics look on the movie
literally after 1 year of waiting for season 2 they cut it off :/
inside job was one of the best animated shows ive seen on netflix
The issue with the whole "We need another stranger things" vibe that Netflix is going for is that they're cutting off their nose because it's just a little crooked and ruining their entire line up.
People come in for the cult classics, the weird shows that got missed on the first go through because something like Wednesday came out the same week. Like, they have to know this. They have cult classics filling their line up. You have to have content to watch after that bingeable show ends. They're like "Hey, at this buffet we only allow turducken with the biggest cuts of fat." and then when that shits eaten and we ask for dessert they're like "Nahhhh, we just got the same turducken, go on, eaaaat"
Inside Job, Dead End, and so many more decent, fun, I love to watch this with the whole family shows got canned because other shows made them more money. It's shit business practices
And that it actively anzagonizes audience in the process. Its one thing to be cutthroat, but its other cancalling a lot belived shows that brought in audience, and were watched.
And james tullos mentioned how the big and the other not big all support each other. And that they can get big,, and other be there.
And that shows need time. To get there. They had banger or potentially good ones.
Rarely shows first seasons are good, and being, we saw what happened to inside job.
Why would they go for the stranger things vibe anyways. Not that you cant have teenager solve mysteries, or nostalgia but that specific nodtalgia. Why?!
You can watch inside job with your family? Lucky.
Stranger Things was fucking trash anyway.
They're cutting their nose to spite their face*
Though more like they're cutting YOUR nose to just spite you.
Honestly it’s insane how Netflix went from the pinnacle of entertainment to just the worst service with horrible management.
I’m actually disappointed to have cancelled Netflix because I was naively holding out for them to turn things back to the way they were. Even if they do suddenly come out with great shows again, it’s not worth watching and getting invested in the show when you know there’s a solid chance it’ll get cancelled after 2 seasons no matter how good it is. It’s simply not worth it, especially when Netflix isn’t the only player in the market anymore.
Usually how it goes with businesses.
Build up a larger membership. Then start giving them lesss but asking for more. Just shut up and take it.
Agreed. I used to love Netflix until they started making their own shows. Ok, I gave it a try. There were a few good shows amidst the shit storm. But their moto is basically cancelling shows and making another one even shittier on top. Ok dumbfounded how their business model stays afloat. Even Witcher which was supposed to be an easy win but became so shitty it's unwatchable.
All they do now is cancel great shows, Inside Job, 1899, Shadow and Bone, etc.
Netflix is full woke garbage. if it doesnt advance the woke insanity agenda, they dont want it.
13:22 Made me genuinely laugh you're a champ for keeping that in and laughing about it too
they better find a new platform that can allow them to continue inside job I NEED THAT
unfortunately since it’s contracted with netflix and netflix is stingy with their originals i don’t think it’s possible to ever do so. the creator made a post on her IG about it. really sucks.
@@abstracttreddTuca and Bertie was a Netflix original and it got picked up by Adult Swim after Netflix cancelled it so I can happen!!
@@abstracttredd NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i rlly need to know what happens to raegan after ron oh my god
@@Nevverhrrt OH i hope this happensss !!
@@vanillavelvet1320 it's unlikely as everyone's struggling for cash right now in a "bear market". Hopefully when the economy improves and people start investing again, maybe Adult Swim can acquire more shows
What’s frustrating is Netflix barely put any marketing towards Inside Job, but will throw all their support behind other projects.
I honestly thought Part 2 of S1 was S2 for the longest time. Of course shows aren’t going to pick up an audience if you don’t advertise them. Shows that are already successful like Big Mouth and Stranger Things don’t need to be advertised because they’re already off the ground and extremely culturally salient.
Many shows don’t even reach their true potential until their second season, because the first season is where all the growing pains happen.
Look at the first half of S1 of Bojack Horseman or S1 of Rick & Morty. Both don’t really hit their strides until a little later.
And the worst thing against the mistreatment odds , inside job did find an audience, and was split whyever.
And the pr was probably more people finding conspiracy theorists fun to dunk on and conspiracy theorists doing outrage pr.
I think peoole having fun poking at theory theorists outrage picking up thst it exists.
Is brilliant marketing. I mean conspiracy theorists did probably way more promotion than netflic ever did. And commenters did oich it up.
couldn’t agree more
S1 of Rick and Morty was only one of two good seasons. I hate how Netflix over-calculates what's popular or not... like everyone has a hive mind and we only ever watch shows in the Top 10 of Netflix. If that were the case there would only BE 10 shows on Netflix!
This show was amazing. I randomly tried it after work one night and couldnt stop watching! I wanna see what happens after the cliff hanger...
This is why I plan to unsubscribe from Netflix after finishing everything on my watchlist. What's the point in enjoying any content on a platform if it's doomed to be canceled for not reaching numbers fast enough?
don't even wait, just pirate it at this point.
@@kenji7982 do you know of a good place to watch, Better Call Saul?
@@kenji7982 Even if you pirate Netflix series the same problem persists: you have a high chance of never getting an ending, so why even bother at all? Would you read a 1000 pages book that's missing the last 500 pages?
@@yvan2563 this is literally why I don’t really watch TV anymore lol. Especially don’t watch things that haven’t ended yet.
Welcome to television.
I definitely agree that something has to give eventually. I've had to start avoiding new shows because it got to a point where every single new show I watched was cancelled before getting the story wrapped up.
It is so frustrating getting invested in a show for it to then end on a cliffhanger or with many loose ends. I wish a streamer would commit to allowing even just one episode to attempt to wrap up a show in some way.
Gutted. Literally found the show two months ago. Sometimes the algorithm shows us stuff late or you're watching other things. Do they know how huge their catalog is!?
This is such a ridiculous approach. People have lives to live outside of binge-watching whatever show that everyone else is talking about immediately, and that's assuming that Netflix actually advertised the show consistently and you didn't find it out through word of mouth. This is only gonna incentivize people to not support new shows on the platform because why bother getting interested when it'll just get canceled after one season?
NEW info came out that Netflix made a lot of deals with showrunners that supposedly incentivized success: the creators would get more bonus money for every season the show gets renewed for. So they might get $100k bonus on top of the base compensation for season 1, but over $1 Million for season 4. Their strategy has been to just cancel everything so they never have to pay the big money.
Les get a petition going. Everyone I know who watched inside job, did so outside of the netflix website.
Ironically, one huge reason why I don't watch everything immediatly to the end is that over the years, there were so many shows I fell in love with, only to see them getting axed prematurely, preferably with a massive cliffhanger. Space: Above and Beyond, Defying Gravity, Farscape, Flash Forward, V, Firefly, The Sarah Connor Chronicles, Terra Nova, The Dead Zone... So if I really like a show or even fall in love with it, I now tend to wait and see _if the show is not getting axed prematurely._ Because why watch it, when all I get in the end will be an extremely unsatisfying cliffhanger?
Also ironically, I am binging 'The Manifest' at the moment, which _also_ got axed prematurely by NBC, only to be picked up by Netflix of all things.
But apart from that, there generally are very few shows I watch as soon as the episodes come out, even when I am totally hooked, for a variety of reasons. Spare time is a huge factor, of course. Then there are shows I love, but just can not watch every day. When I come home from a nightshift on my cancer ward, I want to watch something that is an easy, mindless watch, I will as sure as hell not watch 'The Glory' or 'Godless'. _That_ I do when I am not both mentally and physically exhausted. And sometimes I just wait until a season is released completely, because I am so addicted that I want to watch the damn whole thing in just a couple of binging sessions.
dude i'm fking mad. this was super well written, i want more! it felt as good as rick & morty. i hope they switch to Adultswim if possible.
And the worst part is, looking at the charts, Inside Job would be way higher on the Top 10s if Netflix didn't count each individual season of one fucking series as its own category. This is classic corporate stupidity and we truly do live in a bullshit dystopian future.
Don't worry too much, even Family Guy was cancelled after its first 3 seasons and brought back due to fans growing over the time that it had been off the air and in syndication. I havent yet watched Inside Job but considering Ive heard so much about how good it is, Im going to give it a shot!
Yeah I agree. I was sad but then realised that as long as people like us kept watching it and spreading the word, then it would be renewed again
You're right that this strategy can only last for so long... There was a time where almost everyone I knew kept an active Netflix subscription, that number fell off as they lost rights to other shows, but it fell off dramatically as they started killing off lots of good show before they could really get going. It's difficult for viewers to care about your new shows when they know they'll most likely be cancelled in their prime. Why get invested in a series that's never going to have its payoff? Why stick around and support the platform that is actively killing anything that isn't an instant megahit?
(This is gonna sound corny)
2 years ago I was moving to new schools. I was really stressed bc I didn’t know how to act (bc I never really met other kids) and I was honestly super scared. While staying at an airBNB I would watch this show. It really hits close to me because this show would make me laugh during m6 darkest moments.knowing that this amazing show is canceled just makes me so mad and upset.
It’s sad to see that a lot of quality shows and especially animated shows whether they be cartoons aimed at family or adult cartoons are getting shut down for bullshit reasons. To all the people who worked on this and all other great cartoon shows we see you and we are all thankful for your hard work and time spent on these works of art.
Sucks that this show was cancelled. It was right up my alley....I absolutely loved it! I was so pissed when I found out it was cancelled.
This should have so many similarities with rick and morty just mainly focused on conspiracy part. Both shows are kind of eye opening in some things
It's so nice to hear someone talk about this, Inside Job was the first adult animated show that captivated me in such a long time. I believe you're hitting the nail pretty close to the head, that letter from Netflix to the shareholders is very telling...
Such a bummer. Netflix sucks for this. Though I'd like to point out that this all comes down to the long term failure or streaming platforms. They were destined to fail from the beginning, and this is the consequence of that.
They aren't destined to fail, they hired people to push imaginary numbers and ruin the platform
Kind of think the same, they divided just to be offered in altogether plans where you have Amazon Hulu and Disney ... Honestly never paying it not interested in they're stuff even HBO it's more attractive to me
Things were so much better when we just had torrents
Netflix did not cancel Inside Job,
Shadow Government did
Irl shadow goverment got mad and cancell3d it
Vocês são crianças, o "governo das sombras" é muito maior do que vocês imaginam, beira a loucura!
Im still deathly sad about Inside Job's cancelation. It's one of my favourite shows and I adored it so much.
they’re tanking themselves at this point… this approach coupled with getting rid of account sharing is going to end them. first big streaming service is going to be one of the first to shut down, mark my words
Netflix fell off :/
Going to have the same fate that befell Blockbuster happen to them
@@zackarysullivan9019 Blockbuster didn't even shoot themselves in the foot like Netflix has, blockbuster just died because it failed to compete in a changing market, why would people buy dvds when the streaming services exist. It's the same thing that happened to small mom and pops shops after malls and super markets started popping up, and it happened to malls like toys r us even online realtors started popping up.
You can't win when it comes to capitalism like this man as soon as something pops up that overshadows you your done, every single thing has an expiration date on this day and age and everybody is just worried about getting their golden parachutes.
@@pintolerance785 Blockbuster was literally offered the chance to buy Netflix and passed on it. They absolutely shot themselves, if not in the foot, then in the head.
Just capitalist greed doing its thing.
Final space, Inside job, and surprisingly Bojack horseman(yes even that despite it's okay ending) cancellations really hurt.
Meanwhile, they would greenlit more paradise pd. Then hire the same people responsible on this garbage for farzar. Then renew big mouth multiple times. 😊
like wow
I know if I was a creator I would be like why would I take my show to Netflix if there's a high chance it will be cancelled after 1 season.
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Because they are not a traditional company, if you bring good results they are going to let you do whatever you want, like Nimona and other shows found themselves being saved by Netflix.
You're going to be really surprised when you find out how ruthless it is over on literally any broadcast network.
I think the biggest contributor to this is the audience of the shows. While both claim to be aimed at adults, big mouths main appeal is to a younger audience with its reliance on edgy, sexual, and gross out humor, while inside job is more oriented at a mature audience that understands and enjoys meta humor and political commentary. Big mouth claims to be an adult show while having no appeal to anyone more mature than a middle schooler. Whether this was the intention of the show or not, it draws in a young audience, an audience with more time on their hands to watch it.
as a big mouth fan: i can agree and disagree to this. adults are capable of enjoying big mouth (for ref, im 18 and my brother who i like to watch the show with is 27). a lot of us adult viewers of the show like to watch it BECAUSE its a gritty and gross view on adolescence cause thats what being a middle schooler is like. obviously its gross and overexaggerated, but its a lot better than the way adolescence is sugarcoated in media.
of course i can see why this would appeal to middle schoolers, but I wouldn't chock up the shows value to just be edgy shock humour for 12 y/os.
It's the same as UA-cam. You don't see very many content farms targeting adult audiences. Big Mouth isn't a "content farm", but Netflix knows that keeping around shows that will appeal to younger audiences is more prfitable than shows that only adults would find interesting. I really wonder if Bojack Horseman would have been cancelled if its first season came out later than it did.
Funny to hear this come from a person who doesnt even understand their own existence lmao
Big Mouth is an Adult *wink wink* Show (come get out that teenage horny angst that we like to pretend is not a part of the teenage experience). Whereas Inside Job is an Adult Show (beware ye who hath no media literacy).
Working in TV seems like a terrible idea these days. Shows are far less likely to be picked up and if they are, they get cancelled earlier than what network TV used to be like prior to streaming.
Inside job was my last hope for animated series that isn't from Japan. Maybe things will change in the future.
The main thing that anime has going for it, for me, is that i can almost always go to the source material if a show doesn't get a next season.
This is what happens when you let software engineers and data scientist handle content. As some of me who's had a great career as a software engineer, we don't have a place deciding what and how to deliver content. Objectivity is overrated.
Bingo. It's very easy to data mine the crap out of something and say based on these metrics shows that bring in the most money get completed. Instead of focussing on cancelling the worst performing shows they just cancel basically everything that isn't a hit. This means they miss the slow growth shows and things that become hits later on. The chronic short termism is killing entertainment. Honestly if they did this back in the day, 80% of classic shows would not exist because they'd be immediately cancelled. Even shows like breaking bad and game of thrones wouldn't have made it.
Arent these decisions made by the business people who hired the data engineers?
You ever watch Barry, it does an amazing job at showing these practices at work, "Yes your show was front page, had a million views, but it wasn't hitting the correct pools of people in the algorithm, so it's canceled."
As soon as a metric becomes a target, it ceases to be a useful metric. This has always been true and you'd think the highly paid consultants and CEOs would have some concept of this by now.
@@paulashla yep. The execs ask analysts to gather and process data so the company can make more money. And it has to be very profitable very quickly, or the execs don’t get their bonuses. Not everything can be quantified. Even with what can be quantified, how do you know the data you’re collecting is all the data you need?
I think they did a bad job promoting it, I didn't know about this show. Why doesn't another network pick it up? I think it's hillarious and so creative.
This exact video is the exact reason that I’m so concerned for the Scott Pilgrim animated series. It seems to fit the exact bill for a show that would probably be really good, but is enough of a slow burn for Netflix to cancel it after one season
Thank god shows like Gravity Falls and Regular Show weren’t made by Netflix or we’d never have gotten the full stories
As a person that loved "Inside Job" I totally agree with your assessment about Netflix having no faith in its own content and ruining the whole experience for viewers. However, to be the devil's advocate, there's nothing inherently wrong with a show being only one season. As many people who enjoy adult animation know, more mature anime is historically only one short story arc. There's something to be said about a story that can be told entirely contained within 10 - 14 episodes. Often, it's better paced and has a more satisfying ending when the creators know exactly how long their shows are going to be.
With that said, if this one season (or two part crap that Netflix likes to do) is the "meta" that Netflix has publicly admitted to in Letters to the Shareholders then so be it. The creators should adopt a creative and story-boarding methodology that adapts to this "meta." They should write self-contained stories that work even if only one season is aired. Obviously, I am not an expert and I have literally no idea what I am talking about and have no idea how any of this actually works. But, it's not impossible to adapt to this weird situation Netflix has forced on its viewers and creative staff. Maybe the industry is treating it too similar to network television, when I have heard several interviews saying that it's absolutely nothing like network television.
I dare say that I would almost prefer a world where western animation behaved more like anime... I wonder what kind of amazing storytelling would come out of acknowledging and accepting this change in the "meta."
This is the moment where Netflix lost all of my respect.
This honestly just made me not want to watch any Netflix originals until they are fully released I got really hooked into this show but now I know it will never get a second season because line MUST go up 📈
this made me cancel my sub tbh. they canceled a bunch of other shows i liked for years now and upped the price. tf am i paying for then?
@@sleepy.timaeus.arts. yup it’s short term profit seeking mesures that say hey look we made more profits this quarter even if removing/ canceling shows will just lead to less subscriptions in the future or canceling ones
@@predaderpgaming1042 theyre actually so stupid 😭 when they start getting known as “the canceller” platform and lose subs, then theyll learn. and itll be too late. they getting complaints not just fir this but the raised prices (and for what?? surely dont got the shows to back that up 😒), not allowing accounts to be streamed from different locations, plus a lot of lgbt people feeling like it’s suspicious that a lot of lgbt (and sometimes specifically sapphic) shows have gotten cancelled immediately. they’re trying to get on everyone’s nerves, i swear
That's what happens nowadays with company's you can't have slight growth or stagnant growth it always has to be exponential growth.
Felt. They keep popping out trash content, but discarding the good stuff. I really wish we would have had more Mind Hunter
Ok challenge accepted, going to keep binge watching on inside job repeatedly until Netflix brings back inside job.
It's getting to the point where you don't even want to start a Netflix original because you might really like it and it most likely will get cancelled.
Great video. I've still got Netflix because in my country they have a few good (non Netflix) shows I repeatedly watch.
Wasn't a fan of the dialogue in this show, but it had a lot of charm and it's a shame to see projects like this getting killed off. It's wild to see projects being thrown away rather than investigating how to improve it
why weren’t u a fan of the dialogue? did u feel offended they made fun of conspiracy theorists?
This show was sort of a guilty pleasure of mine. I didn't think it was very good, but binged it over the Christmas break and really got into it. Did part 1 in 2021 then part 2 in 2022 and I guess it turned into a ritual.
Same thing! Just watched the second part and it was quite absorbing, although some details bothered me.. anyway, the ending was intriguing! I even rewatched the 1st part as we won't have any continuation
what is so wierd to me is the reason legacy media companies are making their own platfroms to compete with netfllix is cause they have many old shows that ran for years people still wanna watch but netflix seems to have no interest in building a llong lalsting catalog they just want heavy hitters which i'm sure will not end well when prices keep going up and people don't wanna gamble that this new show will be worth it.
I binged inside job was hype for a s2 but then 2 days later it was announced it was cancelled and this broke my heart
To save 13 minutes: Inside Job started in the Netflix Top 10 but quickly fell out of it, suggesting a lack of sustained interest. Netflix only wants to fund instant megahits for further seasons. The End.
Fuck, man. This show was really going places! It had a bit of a slow start, but the second part really surprised me in a lot of refreshing ways. I wish they'd given it the time it deserved.
I cancelled my Netflix after they cancelled BoJack.I don't even know if they ever made any good show since then.
It’s a shame I’ve actually sat through and enjoyed this show, it was the only reason I kept my netflix subscription to be honest.
I Hope something can be done about it and someone else picks it up!
This is such a deeply stupid approach. I don't subscribe to Netflix to see a small handful of super-hits, I subscribe so that I have a huge catalog of things to watch of many genres available at any time. The back catalog of old shows, the random niche stuff, that's what I'm here for. It seemed like Netflix used to understand this, it seemed like they were making all kinds of really cool shows and it was awesome. But these days they're obsessed with smash hits, and they really don't seem to have any idea what their audience actually wants. They aren't making the subscription more valuable, they're making it much less.
And this is really sad, because Netflix has always had a really special luxury compared to traditional TV: They don't have to deal with scheduling airtime. There's not really competition between one show and another in terms of viewership like there used to be. Netflix doesn't need to make sure their prime-time show is better than another network, and they don't have to cancel shows because they aren't performing well enough to dedicate time to them. They have the ability to just make content, and let viewers have it without all the tactics and games that TV networks had. But for some reason, they have shifted to acting just like traditional TV. If a show isn't getting enough eyes, it's done.
It's like they think they need to compete with all the other streaming services... but news flash Netflix: I subscribe to all of them! I watch all the shows. I don't need to choose if I'll tune in to Stranger Things or House of The Dragon! I'll be seeing them both. Give me all the content you can make.