Been watching pro league since pre-LCS days and I'm high AF on hopium rn. TL is looking actually competitive vs good teams, and when it's all said and done if C9 can reach the potential of their roster we really could be sending two good teams to worlds.
@@rotcoke652 Idk if C9 has the mid or botlane to compete against top tier Korea and china but I am confident in TL botlane and mid, Yeon is a legend imo , he is so much ahead of any NA talent i have seen recently. and APA is also playing out of his mind. The only weakness on this team is UMTI's showcalling and inting.
This might be copium, but its been a while since I have seen a promising NA team like this version of TL. For a couple of years now it has felt like none could ever stand a chance, but now there might be some light.
@@tinecchi3648 yeah but i dont think its because NA is all of a sudden better, i think eu got a lot worse over the last couple of years and T1 look really shaky and not in their peak form and TL just plays solid so thats why NA kind of looks decent now imo.
@@thezedmain1603 maybe you didn’t watch the past years, but some of our na teams permanently lost 1 game to minor regions in groups. It’s a huge improvement that we have a team that gets it done. Just because t1 looks shaky doesn’t mean at all that na or eu teams could take advantage of that
@@tinecchi3648 we actually don’t lose that often to minor region teams compared to eu believe it or not. I actually think eu over the years have lost more to minor regions that Na or at the very least the number isn’t so different that Na. The amount of times g2 lost to minor regions is let’s just say not flattering. Na has generally been good at beating teams worse than themselves but bad at beating teams better than themselves.
@@thezedmain1603 thrown out in play ins yes eu Leads that. But in the groups na didn’t get through groups while having a 3 3 score beating every team once. It happened a lot, just go look at results 😅
Coincidence or is the new gormat for lcs better for them? Probably coincidence im beyond having hope at this point. I just wish it was true because how hype would it be if all regions were cracked we would jave so many good games to watch.
Of course it is. LCS has been effectively behind in experience compared to LPL and LCK for a long time now just do to format diff. Less pro games overall accrued, and less experience with Bo3 formats means that they are always way less prepared when heading into international competition on top of any skill differences that are already present. It's like asking to lose. Now they should at least be on the same level of conditioning. Still behind overall, but it's the most important first step to eventually, hopefully, catching up.
@@nicesuuu-noicesu they can't help it... late game will favor T1 more especially since guma can easily clear wave and faker being taliyah pretty much means he will be everywhere... also Tris and Zeri won't be able to escape Vi so their mobility/escape tool is useless against her
@@icaruslament you drunk? faker is the only player playing normally on that game 1..... game 2 and 3 is all about oner and faker... the rest of T1 is shit.... if they keep playing like this its gonna be easy 3-0 in favor of TES
I think APA is unironically one of the best ziggs in the world(from all the ziggs I’ve seen from other pro teams) he just knows the champ better than anyone else who plays it. This was a good series though overall! umT1 running it down at the crucial moments, and losing to a baron flip when you’re up 5k is such an NA way to lose, but all things considered Core is looking the best he’s looked in years, Impact is always solid, APA has become a bit of a monster, Yeon is stable and can be surprisingly clutch, and umti is on sej/maokai duty.
Im LCK and T1 fans but i kinda hope TL win just to fck up LEC fans Imagine the scene where NA team beat T1 after sweeping FNC, even tho it's irrelevant tourney but still...
@animeanime7849 I'm just saying the truth tho. NA always loses bc they can't compete with the better teams. I mean they did good vs t1. But Gen g would destroy them
bro didnt even watch the games. we stomped out game 1 just as hard as we lost game 2. Game 3 was very close and just had some bad decisions leading to the loss. But yes bro there is no hope. NA viewer hate watching his own region
@icaruslament I watched it. Game one t1 throwing. T1 plays with they food. And TL had no chance. I'm surprised they even took one game. I can hate on my own region bc time and time again they disappoint. We need some wins. But it probably won't happen anytime soon
NA are a region worth respecting now. Always a major region, but now they can seriously contend. Its not worth being reactionary and calling EU a minor region though, we're entering an age of league where the west are actually going to be a proper threat to titles. This tournament may mark a huge swing in momentum for league, and im excited for it
you cant be serious... the west was closest in 2019-2020 when lck was in a slump... if you watch T1 games in regular season theyve always been shaky against weaker teams... Zeus is literally playing zeri flashing into 5 in a forfun tournament and you pretend like MSI didnt happen where FLY got stopped in playins by T1 and PSG and TL got stopped by TES and only took 1 game from T1 in a bo5 where T1 was shaky entire spring season losing to the other top teams in the second half but barely clutched a win against HLE for MSI...
@@orange6497 2 Americans with CoreJJ and Impact being NA's long time "imports" but I don't know why you consider them imports anymore if they decide to stay in NA for years now. If anything Impact is solidfied as an NA player.
When will you idiots understand Yeon is American? He was born and raised in California. Are white people from America actually just European too, in your mind?
Crazy that NA has proved to be better then EU and LCK this tournament. As they said in the video, NA just isn't used to being better and handling the situation. New rankings.. LPL > NA > LCK > EU. New ERA of League boys, sit back and enjoy. If it wasn't for G2, EU would be a minor region by now.
absolute cope. LCK has GenG, T1, DK and HLE. LPL has JDG, TES, BLG, FPX or WBG. EU has G2 and FNC. NA has TL and FLY and you said NA is better than lck where even the 6-7th seed in lck would destroy first and second seed in na
@AuraAi Eh I know it might just sound like excuses, but Impact has played a majority of his professional league career in NA. And it's not even a small majority (like Corejj for example). He's played over 80% of his decade long career in NA. Import rules aside, I'd say he's more than deserving of the title of NA player. Honestly Core is high up there as well. But he did go away for a bit.
@@AuraAi Bro. Impact and CoreJJ have spent MORE time playing in NA then they have spent playing in Korea. Funnily enough, CoreJJ played in NA for a year BEFORE he won Worlds 2017 with SSG.
EVERY FKING TIME eu and na win vs t1 they ALWAYS ALWAYS make some skill check shitty ass mistake and lose either baron or the whole base in 1 push ALWAYS how the fck is everyone so bad, T1 doesn't deserve any credit anymore, everyone is just inting leads and winning drafts away cause they're too excited or somethin after winning lane
@@sere971 Yeon is the one you speak of born in the US, so correction: 3 Koreans and APA/Yeon..3/2 is still not a majority NA team but I appreciate the cope 😂
@@justifiable The entire meme around TL last year was that it was all korean when they had summit, pyosik and Haeri (who is australian by citizenship (not sure if by birth or application)) so its fair to continue the meme of TL is KR-Lite except YAPA who is god tier giga chad
@@Cevichelicious the point is (if you still have some brain cells left) that most of NA's team are KOREANS by blood or even by citizenship my guy. Please use some brains. NA brains are weird.
It was almost the most important and valid tournament of the year until Faker and Oner said no
Nah. Umti had enough(Obviously his int didn't end the game but yeah)
Yeah I guess nobody noticed that Faker was 2 levels ahead in game 3 lol
@@Johnin3D_ Classic Korean import mind control against T1
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 It was one hell of a Taliyah performance and I'm surprised he wasn't credited for it more
@@LunePheli He performed well in every game tbh. He couldn't do anything on Azir though.
Damn for a second I was convinced NA had something here.. ggs good series.
What is this tournament I am confused? Like randomly I see t1 playing na ?
@@cybercipher5770 its the esports world cup tournament for league
@@cybercipher5770 esports world cup
Saudi rich person organized this
@@cybercipher5770MSI (I’m pretty sure), kind of a for fun tournament during off season
Sadly umti threw the last game hard.
ive been watching league since season 3, and this is probably the most hope I have for an NA team since cloud9 2018
LMFAOOOOOO
Been watching pro league since pre-LCS days and I'm high AF on hopium rn. TL is looking actually competitive vs good teams, and when it's all said and done if C9 can reach the potential of their roster we really could be sending two good teams to worlds.
they have 4 asians in the team so its expected
@@imheretosleep yeon is American, impact has been in the USA for 10+ years, and coreJJ started his career in NA as adc. Stop being racist europoor😂😂😂
@@rotcoke652 Idk if C9 has the mid or botlane to compete against top tier Korea and china but I am confident in TL botlane and mid, Yeon is a legend imo , he is so much ahead of any NA talent i have seen recently. and APA is also playing out of his mind. The only weakness on this team is UMTI's showcalling and inting.
TL really snatched defeat from the jaws of victory
Lmfao I giggled, kiss me
This might be copium, but its been a while since I have seen a promising NA team like this version of TL. For a couple of years now it has felt like none could ever stand a chance, but now there might be some light.
Nrg last year was nice too and gg msi run
Fly is also looking quite good if Bwipo can be normal
Umti secret agent right there
Faker want his 99% tournament win record (LCK, WORLDS, ALL STAR 2014, IEM WORLDS X, 2014, MSI, ASIAN GAMES, EWC ??) RIP KESPA CUP
plus Rift Rivals
apparently, the KeSPA cup is coming back to used as a metric for drafting Korean national team
No LCS victory though, smh not my goat
Production only came prepared with a T1 Win graphic LOL
trueee
SPOILER:
man kind of feels like a repeat of msi where TL pissed on fnc and had a chance vs T1 and lost xd
Honestly from what na viewers are used to, this is just going upwards xD
Destroy eu be somewhat competitive vs Asian teams.
@@tinecchi3648 yeah but i dont think its because NA is all of a sudden better, i think eu got a lot worse over the last couple of years and T1 look really shaky and not in their peak form and TL just plays solid so thats why NA kind of looks decent now imo.
@@thezedmain1603 maybe you didn’t watch the past years, but some of our na teams permanently lost 1 game to minor regions in groups. It’s a huge improvement that we have a team that gets it done.
Just because t1 looks shaky doesn’t mean at all that na or eu teams could take advantage of that
@@tinecchi3648 we actually don’t lose that often to minor region teams compared to eu believe it or not. I actually think eu over the years have lost more to minor regions that Na or at the very least the number isn’t so different that Na. The amount of times g2 lost to minor regions is let’s just say not flattering. Na has generally been good at beating teams worse than themselves but bad at beating teams better than themselves.
@@thezedmain1603 thrown out in play ins yes eu Leads that. But in the groups na didn’t get through groups while having a 3 3 score beating every team once.
It happened a lot, just go look at results 😅
9:46 t1 match win xD
Lol producers was like "Nah, T1 still won... In my heart" 😂😂
I mean no one expect TL won a game 😂😂
"free win for T1"
"no GenG"
why did i AGREE 😭
Only way teams have a shot against T1 is to literally lane swap everytime😂 that strategy nerfs all of T1 down a peg.
3:37 I think he's a-clicking the bush but because there's a minion in proximity so he is back-stepping. Surprising to see from a pro.
100% was a-click, idk why neither of them realized that
take a shot everytime LS says games over
Coincidence or is the new gormat for lcs better for them? Probably coincidence im beyond having hope at this point. I just wish it was true because how hype would it be if all regions were cracked we would jave so many good games to watch.
Of course it is. LCS has been effectively behind in experience compared to LPL and LCK for a long time now just do to format diff. Less pro games overall accrued, and less experience with Bo3 formats means that they are always way less prepared when heading into international competition on top of any skill differences that are already present. It's like asking to lose. Now they should at least be on the same level of conditioning. Still behind overall, but it's the most important first step to eventually, hopefully, catching up.
"THE NATURAL BORN.... AMERICANS!" lmao
THE GAP IS CLOSING 🦅RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
And it’s only taken 13 years 😂
@@ButterPants you mean 52 seasons? wtf is a kilometeeeeeer
closing but still won't get a series against any eastern team...yeon apa is the real deal though
dam. i was about to say. faker and oner were like. no way we losing to na. lol
ALMOST 15YRS NOW OF BEING LET DOWN BY NA WHEN WILL IT END
if you're actually expecting NA to beat T1 then that's on you bro lol
Unbelieavable how hard TL tried to lose that last game, and they succeeded.
T1: *SWEATING
GRIFFIN: THIS IS A FREE WIN FOR T1 XDDDD
Makes me scared for T1 chances but at the same time was an incredibly fun watch
23:52 The way Umti realized he is korean 😂
faker is one&only... just goat
losing game 2 against 3 adc is such a bronze thing to do.
when NA is ahead they have to flip baron so that they lose
Desperate time calls 😂
@@nicesuuu-noicesu they can't help it... late game will favor T1 more especially since guma can easily clear wave and faker being taliyah pretty much means he will be everywhere... also Tris and Zeri won't be able to escape Vi so their mobility/escape tool is useless against her
@@nirvash241 And sivir does so much team damage in late game
who is in the call with them?
Sign Oner forever please.
APA really forgot that all road leads to faker.
What a ffffff Good game dude
Team Liquid should change they name into (Team Emot) that's why they lose hahaha😂
someone count how many time they Emot hahaha😂
NA = near airport✈️
you think if oner steal that Baron game3 TL has shot?
Faker on the international stage; he's just diffferent
what do you mean, faker was only present in game 3 because the rest of his team ran it. he might as well have not been on the map in game 1.
@@icaruslament Atleast he tried haha
@@icaruslamentwdym. Faker carried them today. Best performed player all 3 games
@@icaruslament you drunk? faker is the only player playing normally on that game 1..... game 2 and 3 is all about oner and faker... the rest of T1 is shit.... if they keep playing like this its gonna be easy 3-0 in favor of TES
bro forgot MSI already i guess lol
What is going on? Why is TL playing T1 in the middle of summer split? Is it a very delayed msi vod? But when did they play bo3?
Esports world cup in saudi arabia. Regional split are paused because of this lol.
Riot wants the saudi money
I think APA is unironically one of the best ziggs in the world(from all the ziggs I’ve seen from other pro teams) he just knows the champ better than anyone else who plays it.
This was a good series though overall! umT1 running it down at the crucial moments, and losing to a baron flip when you’re up 5k is such an NA way to lose, but all things considered Core is looking the best he’s looked in years, Impact is always solid, APA has become a bit of a monster, Yeon is stable and can be surprisingly clutch, and umti is on sej/maokai duty.
Zeus on his drutut arc now.
Zeus use zeri and win game damn
Im LCK and T1 fans but i kinda hope TL win just to fck up LEC fans
Imagine the scene where NA team beat T1 after sweeping FNC, even tho it's irrelevant tourney but still...
*Western teams taking notes that in order to have a decent match against eastern teams, you need to have at least 1 asian player in the team. Mad😂?*
Ziggs is very balanced yes
ksante with iceborn randuins and frozen heart can't beat a zeri. this is what 3 years of buffing adcs does to the game
Because crying the loudest is an ADC mains best ability
Zero had a pretty big lead im pretty sure if that was Darius in tge sane position it would have been even more one sided
ksanteeeeeeeeer
Silver comment
Wdym? Adcs were always supposed to counter tanks.
At the same time, bruisers and assassins counter them
Absolute first comment of all time
It's the NA classic.
Oner smite ❤
t1 umti and tl zeshy
TES looks scarier 🥶... T1 needs to focus
Lck vs lck + apa.
umti got paypal notification ingame
"gift baron"
TSM "AFK Mid" LeChoke'vy James fans are sad as F man. They've gone back into there cave smh
1 minute and only 9 views this channel is DONE for
Fr fr
Kinda funny that you have videos out for 10 months with 30 views. Looks like you're done for
team East South Korea vs team West South Korea.
FUCKING NA. I really thought they had it until they go for this random Maokai bullshit engage with no followup in 100km vicinity
Tbh it will work well on that engage he got tristana behind him but umti didn't have vision on guma keria being near and his bot is far away too
umT1 :(
riot giving T1 skin again be like 😶
Classic T1 baron
ksante and brand in one team and still lose omE
NA got fucked again like always. Ther is no hope for NA. We will never be able to win
Bro if you feel like that after losing to T1 in a really close series then your expectations were way too high
@animeanime7849 I'm just saying the truth tho. NA always loses bc they can't compete with the better teams. I mean they did good vs t1. But Gen g would destroy them
bro didnt even watch the games. we stomped out game 1 just as hard as we lost game 2. Game 3 was very close and just had some bad decisions leading to the loss. But yes bro there is no hope. NA viewer hate watching his own region
@icaruslament I watched it. Game one t1 throwing. T1 plays with they food. And TL had no chance. I'm surprised they even took one game. I can hate on my own region bc time and time again they disappoint. We need some wins. But it probably won't happen anytime soon
@icaruslament also having low expectations makes the Ws even better
Your editor is trolling you. Skipping good moments in the game left and right.
wow disgusting int by TL report all of them
Zeus is bad, supporting SA is worse.
NA are a region worth respecting now. Always a major region, but now they can seriously contend. Its not worth being reactionary and calling EU a minor region though, we're entering an age of league where the west are actually going to be a proper threat to titles. This tournament may mark a huge swing in momentum for league, and im excited for it
nah both regions will get clapped for a long long time anyway
how many americans?
you cant be serious... the west was closest in 2019-2020 when lck was in a slump... if you watch T1 games in regular season theyve always been shaky against weaker teams... Zeus is literally playing zeri flashing into 5 in a forfun tournament and you pretend like MSI didnt happen where FLY got stopped in playins by T1 and PSG and TL got stopped by TES and only took 1 game from T1 in a bo5 where T1 was shaky entire spring season losing to the other top teams in the second half but barely clutched a win against HLE for MSI...
@@orange6497 2 Americans with CoreJJ and Impact being NA's long time "imports" but I don't know why you consider them imports anymore if they decide to stay in NA for years now. If anything Impact is solidfied as an NA player.
shu¥upstinkynndian
there is nothing na about that team
that throw in game 3 was pretty NA ngl
@@johnkirk1772 no, it was an asian throw
t1 has no business winning those games, they were horrible
and NA showed us they dont deserve it more.... same with BLG dropping those leads against T1 lol
US being US lol
SPOILER BLOCK
"They being cook by america" while 4 koreans in the team😀
When will you idiots understand Yeon is American? He was born and raised in California. Are white people from America actually just European too, in your mind?
not just koreans, also 4 ex-lck pro players xd
@@solotovv with 2 Worlds Champs as well 😂
3 are Koreans, Yeon and APA are borned in America.
These Koreans speaking Korean
Why the fuck people keep flaming umti for the game wtf are you even smoking I want some
its weird that t1 is not trying hard tho are they really wanted to win ? or what
they've been playing like this since spring.... this is their normal form though
T1 just isn't at their peak form right now. Wait and let them cook against TES today
Umpty and impact are always throwing
wtf is this editing. So many random kills missed in these videos
Lol tl 2:0 tl 2:0
So sad LOL
Brand TL two zero. This is why the stream and channel is dying. Cadrel is bias but he won't call a game until it's over.
Crazy that NA has proved to be better then EU and LCK this tournament. As they said in the video, NA just isn't used to being better and handling the situation. New rankings.. LPL > NA > LCK > EU. New ERA of League boys, sit back and enjoy. If it wasn't for G2, EU would be a minor region by now.
absolute cope. LCK has GenG, T1, DK and HLE. LPL has JDG, TES, BLG, FPX or WBG. EU has G2 and FNC. NA has TL and FLY and you said NA is better than lck where even the 6-7th seed in lck would destroy first and second seed in na
TL won't even go past kdf lil bro
bait
¿? What are you smoking?
this ragebait isnt even funny
Na team full of Koreans😅
Only 3
@@thebigbronkowski More than half, I'd still call it full
@AuraAi Eh I know it might just sound like excuses, but Impact has played a majority of his professional league career in NA. And it's not even a small majority (like Corejj for example). He's played over 80% of his decade long career in NA.
Import rules aside, I'd say he's more than deserving of the title of NA player.
Honestly Core is high up there as well. But he did go away for a bit.
@@AuraAi Bro. Impact and CoreJJ have spent MORE time playing in NA then they have spent playing in Korea.
Funnily enough, CoreJJ played in NA for a year BEFORE he won Worlds 2017 with SSG.
So? They are Koreans builds different
EVERY FKING TIME eu and na win vs t1 they ALWAYS ALWAYS make some skill check shitty ass mistake and lose either baron or the whole base in 1 push ALWAYS
how the fck is everyone so bad, T1 doesn't deserve any credit anymore, everyone is just inting leads and winning drafts away cause they're too excited or somethin after winning lane
lmao, why would they int? they trash ? T1 just waiting for then to go desperate then they really did baron. lmao
not everyone can make use of those mistakes though... that is exactly why they are the best come back team this year
By “America” lmao you mean 4 Koreans and APA. Any other NA team would be like Iron vs Challenger 😂
Yeon was born in California...
Also the Korean players have spent a vast most of their career in NA at this point
calling a Korean-American that was born here *not* an NA player seems kinda fucked up
@@sere971 Yeon is the one you speak of born in the US, so correction: 3 Koreans and APA/Yeon..3/2 is still not a majority NA team but I appreciate the cope 😂
TL has 4 korean players. TL aint no NA
Yeon is literally born an raised in USA.
@@Cevicheliciousstill got that korean blood 🤣
hey idk where you're from but calling asian-americans un-american is extremely demeaning
@@justifiable The entire meme around TL last year was that it was all korean when they had summit, pyosik and Haeri (who is australian by citizenship (not sure if by birth or application)) so its fair to continue the meme of TL is KR-Lite except YAPA who is god tier giga chad
@@Cevichelicious the point is (if you still have some brain cells left) that most of NA's team are KOREANS by blood or even by citizenship my guy. Please use some brains. NA brains are weird.
NA being 4 koreans xdd. Still, they played well, hats off to them
4 koreans + 1 eu
@@ajarofdirt3830apa was born in ohio
@@ajarofdirt3830 tf are you saying
@@Kaiscar yeon was born in california and apa was born in ohio so TL is 4 koreans and 1 european.
Shockingly, the american was not the problem this series.