Little fun fact about me, is that I was in the background of filming for this episode up in the Blarney Castle, with a friend of mine from Albama. I was showing her around the castle at the time when they started filming. Small world we live in.
Love this documentary ❤ William marshal is my paternal 24th GGF and maternal 25th GGF , he is my most want meet ancestor because of his multiple and different qualities ❤ I am proud to carry the ancestral DNA
Thanks, I have been doing my ancestry for the last 3 years, also William Marshall's great great grandson was Robert the Bruce, I also have Irish royalty, Welsh royalty and English Anglo-Saxon and since the conqueror royalty I am flabbergasted I have all these rich ancestry and no money haha😂@@IrishMedievalHistory
@@IrishMedievalHistory you’re welcome, I am just across the water from you and in a similar flow. Visiting Ireland again will be part of my channel journey.
@@robertthebruce-geniusofban647 ya! Your channel is going super well. McCarthy was allied to Bruce his castle with the stone he was given as a gift from Bruce is just down the road from my house at home. Will have to have an old chat about that at some stage.
@@katarinavidakovic4718 they are are neighbors for good and for bad. We have a ton of history with Spain, America, Scotland, Iceland and Norway as well.
"Anglo-Norman", or "Hiberno-Norman", is an anachronism, and thus unhistorical. The term that was used to describe the 12th Century invaders of Leinster, and would remain in use until the late 19th Century, was "English". In the late 19th Century, in an effort to draw an analogy with the Norman invasion of England, the terms 'Anglo-Norman' and 'Hiberno-Norman' were invented, and even more ridiculous terms like 'Cambro-Norman' and 'Anglo-French'. These labels were unknown to the people living at that time, and for good reason: the Medieval English who invaded Ireland were no more "Norman" than the Norman invaders of England were "Norse". As the Norse intermarried with the Franks and became "Normans", the Normans intermarried with Englishwomen and became Englishmen. This process continued in Ireland where, by the 15th Century, most of the Old English were "more Irish than the Irish."
I'm a historian of eighteenth century Ireland, so my expertise is limited in this regard, but I'll do my best to discuss what you posted. I wouldn't discount the decriptive terms Anglo or hiberno Norman as they are useful when making distinctions between the various Norman groups. Historians sometimes need to categorise these things to put together a clearer picture of the past. It doesn't do any particular harm. As a clumsy example, in the past, people would have called a sword, just that, a sword. Whereas in the modern day, we have a great many varieties of names for the various types of swords across history because historians need to organise the information in a way that is clear and recordable. I may well be incorrect on this point but I think the English court referred to themselves as Norman right up until the hundred years war. meaning that the use of the various Norman descriptives isn't necessarily problematic as they might not have been calling themselves English, just the rulers of England. I completely disagree regarding the "more Irish than the Irish" comment. A totally ridiculous sentiment that serves only to legitimise their conquest.
@@Admiralofthedeeps just to clarify Edward I, who ruled from 1272 to 1307, learned English as a child from his tutors. In 1362, the Statute of Pleading made English the official language of British Parliament, meaning that lawmakers, including the king, spoke English well enough to conduct legal proceedings in it. It wasn’t until Henry IV, whose reign inaugurated the 15th century, that the first English king spoke English as his first language. Additionally the version of English spoken would be incompatible to us today as it wasn’t until the great vowel shift during the 16th century that a form of English which would be comprehensive to us was developed.
Just a Important thing that goes Unmentioned...Irish CHIEF invited and Asked..Nornans over to help in their fights With Each Other..Hence Strongarm Married a Irish Princess,,You do mention William Marshall he married their daughter..The Normans did not start the Invation...Door was Opened too them...With Respect..
blarney castle sometimes have two hour queues..., many many have bad backs but kiss the wrong area, as they really have to strech for the right stone, lol simon is a great historian, i would add that the cambro normans, also built manor houses and even married into the gaelic nobility, the fitzgeralds of kildare and o briens; brians, its a complex and fascinating history, unfortantely geoffry of monmouth was not only biased against the irish but clueless...being a norman chronicler of half welsh ancestry... the normans could not conquer the irish, they tried many many many times......far easier to marry irish royalty, nobility, the division of lands, castles and feuding was not unique to ireland, the normans originally were in wales before ireland...
Little fun fact about me, is that I was in the background of filming for this episode up in the Blarney Castle, with a friend of mine from Albama. I was showing her around the castle at the time when they started filming.
Small world we live in.
Thank you i have been looking for this video
Your welcome @@Joseph13163
Cool experience for you, TIL from this neat docu
Cool!
Love this documentary ❤ William marshal is my paternal 24th GGF and maternal 25th GGF , he is my most want meet ancestor because of his multiple and different qualities ❤ I am proud to carry the ancestral DNA
@@wmr9019 damn! That's amazing 😍
Thanks, I have been doing my ancestry for the last 3 years, also William Marshall's great great grandson was Robert the Bruce, I also have Irish royalty, Welsh royalty and English Anglo-Saxon and since the conqueror royalty I am flabbergasted I have all these rich ancestry and no money haha😂@@IrishMedievalHistory
Normans rule the world 😊
They sure where a powerhouse from Ireland to Jerusalem!
@@IrishMedievalHistory 👍💪
Excellent.
Thank you!
Great account. Simon's presentation is excellent. Loved his role in Bachelor's Walk.
@@denishannan1408 I never got around to watching that.
Irish Medieval History, Your content makes me happy!
Thank you!
I enjoyed this immensely, lovely filming!
Subscribed!
Thanks for the sub!
@@IrishMedievalHistory you’re welcome, I am just across the water from you and in a similar flow.
Visiting Ireland again will be part of my channel journey.
@@robertthebruce-geniusofban647 ya! Your channel is going super well. McCarthy was allied to Bruce his castle with the stone he was given as a gift from Bruce is just down the road from my house at home. Will have to have an old chat about that at some stage.
@@IrishMedievalHistory well up for that brother!
Thanks for uploading
Thank you brilliant I very much enjoyed
Your more then welcome!!
@@IrishMedievalHistory will you be doing more
Great channel man
Thank you so much!!
"Boy meets Gael" is a terrific line!
😂 that's great!
Wau I didn't know Marshall lived in Ireland
@@katarinavidakovic4718 he sure did, with his Irish wife.
@IrishMedievalHistory And Duke Wellington born in Dublin omg crayzi so interesting you so connected with English in so many ways
@@katarinavidakovic4718 they are are neighbors for good and for bad. We have a ton of history with Spain, America, Scotland, Iceland and Norway as well.
Muito bom
Thank you!!
remember watching this back in the day :) any chance of uploading the wolfland doc rte made?
Super enjoyed! Is Ironclad's Marshall based on William Marshall ?
Yes! It is the same guy am sure.
It's just a blurry 360P mess that needs to be taken down, and 1080P remastered.
"Anglo-Norman", or "Hiberno-Norman", is an anachronism, and thus unhistorical. The term that was used to describe the 12th Century invaders of Leinster, and would remain in use until the late 19th Century, was "English". In the late 19th Century, in an effort to draw an analogy with the Norman invasion of England, the terms 'Anglo-Norman' and 'Hiberno-Norman' were invented, and even more ridiculous terms like 'Cambro-Norman' and 'Anglo-French'. These labels were unknown to the people living at that time, and for good reason: the Medieval English who invaded Ireland were no more "Norman" than the Norman invaders of England were "Norse". As the Norse intermarried with the Franks and became "Normans", the Normans intermarried with Englishwomen and became Englishmen. This process continued in Ireland where, by the 15th Century, most of the Old English were "more Irish than the Irish."
The vikings settled in Cotentin the western part of Normandy were calling iro-Norwegian
I'm a historian of eighteenth century Ireland, so my expertise is limited in this regard, but I'll do my best to discuss what you posted.
I wouldn't discount the decriptive terms Anglo or hiberno Norman as they are useful when making distinctions between the various Norman groups. Historians sometimes need to categorise these things to put together a clearer picture of the past. It doesn't do any particular harm. As a clumsy example, in the past, people would have called a sword, just that, a sword. Whereas in the modern day, we have a great many varieties of names for the various types of swords across history because historians need to organise the information in a way that is clear and recordable.
I may well be incorrect on this point but I think the English court referred to themselves as Norman right up until the hundred years war. meaning that the use of the various Norman descriptives isn't necessarily problematic as they might not have been calling themselves English, just the rulers of England.
I completely disagree regarding the "more Irish than the Irish" comment. A totally ridiculous sentiment that serves only to legitimise their conquest.
@@AdmiralofthedeepsI’m assuming you meant to say you disagree on that last point 😅
@@Lorcan-dv6pb oh no! 😅 curse my autocorrect. I definitely meant to disagree.
@@Admiralofthedeeps just to clarify Edward I, who ruled from 1272 to 1307, learned English as a child from his tutors. In 1362, the Statute of Pleading made English the official language of British Parliament, meaning that lawmakers, including the king, spoke English well enough to conduct legal proceedings in it. It wasn’t until Henry IV, whose reign inaugurated the 15th century, that the first English king spoke English as his first language. Additionally the version of English spoken would be incompatible to us today as it wasn’t until the great vowel shift during the 16th century that a form of English which would be comprehensive to us was developed.
Just a Important thing that goes Unmentioned...Irish CHIEF invited and Asked..Nornans over to help in their fights With Each Other..Hence Strongarm Married a Irish Princess,,You do mention William Marshall he married their daughter..The Normans did not start the Invation...Door was Opened too them...With Respect..
It's all in the previous episode 'the Norman's are coming'
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Marshal had land in Ireland England Wales and France
He sure was the Greatest knight of all time.
blarney castle sometimes have two hour queues...,
many many have bad backs but kiss the wrong area, as they really have to strech for the right stone, lol
simon is a great historian,
i would add that the cambro normans, also built manor houses and even married into the gaelic nobility, the fitzgeralds of kildare and o briens; brians,
its a complex and fascinating history, unfortantely geoffry of monmouth was not only biased against the irish but clueless...being a norman chronicler of half welsh ancestry...
the normans could not conquer the irish, they tried many many many times......far easier to marry irish royalty, nobility,
the division of lands, castles and feuding was not unique to ireland, the normans originally were in wales before ireland...
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