I love that Kara dueled one Jackal causing them to die, and then got attacked by the other Jackal person but had a bodyguard causing them to also die, so Kara in one night was the reason for both jackal henchmen to die lmao
The first Pirate game ending was hilarious, because you can imagine the Pirate seeing the WW die to the Jester, after killing the Marshal, after the Pirate killed the Mayor themselves, leaving a completely empty town for them to plunder before leaving a ghost town in the wake of their ship as they sail off to their next adventure.
last game ended because there was only the jackal + neutrals, the game has no reason to continue because all of the win conditions are not contradictory even if the win conditions of the pirate and jester were not met
1st game, when outing chilled as SK, should have also noted that he had to be Jackal since you weren't, Jester and Pirate can't be Jackal so it has to be either SK or WW. However I think the only survival method was to not out Chilled and instead pretend to be a Jester that is pretending to be a Cleric, Oracle or Bodyguard who just got a lucky self-protect.
These were some fun ToS2 rounds! I do agree that having Jackals turned on with such small lobbies might not make for the most balanced games, since having an SK/WW automatically on your team makes things a lot easier, but they were still entertaining, even when they took each other down early lol. It was also interesting to see Ze and the townies try to maneuver around the various neutral roles plaguing the town. Ze had some wild luck with those back-to-back-to-back-to-back Neutral roles, and I'm glad that one of them led to a victory! Redrum wins are always extra awesome! Hopefully Ze will have even more good luck next week!
I feel like, with how small these groups are, that Jackal needs to be off. It always has a neutral (Maybe coven?) and a town as underling and they always have Jailor and another Town Power. Just makes it basically impossible for town to win because they have 1 less and theres a 1/3 chance for the underling to be town power.
I don't think it's much different from having 2 coven and a town traitor, I just think it's a bit too much having both jester and pirate, remove em and just have once Neutral Evil (with doomsayer and executioner disabled) instead, switch the other to a town role. They should also disable vigilante, it's a bit too likely to just kill another town, SK and WW have defence, I believe Jackal does too, so best it can do is out that they shoot somebody and they survived, which doesn't inherently mean they are any of those roles. Could be monarch, bodyguard, cleric, oracle, jester or just protected by a protect role.
I feel like Vigilante needs a small tweak, just one. Giving it a 2 in attack instead of 1. When it was made in ToS 1, it was fine because they only had SK and Godfather that wouldn't die to it (Exe too but ehh) You might be right about Jackal but there was too many neutrals for sure. Even if they were all against each other, its in none of their interests to vote and thats towns biggest defense. I recall Ze complaining about that in Among Us modded with too many win conditions.
Just to clarify, the jackal recruits are always on opposing factions. The most common example being Town + Coven; Town + NK is possible (as seen in the video), Town + NA is possible, and NK + Coven i believe is also possible, etc. Neutral Evils, Neutral Paraiah and other Neutral Specials cannot be recruited
@@pancho5159 I believe one has to be town and the other is a non-town role, so I don't think NK + Coven is possible. I am not certain if Doomsayer is excluded from becoming a Jackal Recruit
These rounds have been something. And my favorite part of ALL roles, was Hashbrown 🐕 speaking his truth. Hashbrown 🐕 has been the sidekick all along 😂 and it was priceless. SPEAK YOUR TRUTH, Hashbrown 🐕 Thank you, Zeeeeeeeeeeee 😊❤
@Xhumed Just no need for it anymore. Plus the likes of PirateBay keep getting shut down with days and it's more hassle than it's worth finding new sites or countries to VPN. But they were fun years when it was in its prime
Apple has PTSD from the name swaps lmao.
I love that Kara dueled one Jackal causing them to die, and then got attacked by the other Jackal person but had a bodyguard causing them to also die, so Kara in one night was the reason for both jackal henchmen to die lmao
Almost makes up for her handing the Jackals game 1 by going hard on the one person who could stop the Jackals after she misfired on Cheesy...
The first Pirate game ending was hilarious, because you can imagine the Pirate seeing the WW die to the Jester, after killing the Marshal, after the Pirate killed the Mayor themselves, leaving a completely empty town for them to plunder before leaving a ghost town in the wake of their ship as they sail off to their next adventure.
I love TOS content from Ze and his friends.
Hashbrown's mighty borks gave me a heckin' spook
49:35 Tortellini catching strays for both Rex and Hashbrown
last game ended because there was only the jackal + neutrals, the game has no reason to continue because all of the win conditions are not contradictory
even if the win conditions of the pirate and jester were not met
To be clear, the game ended because a game ending win condition was met, all the town were dead and the jackal was still alive.
@@LunaliBrighteyes Ah, right, Jackals wincon is "kill all townies" not "kill all people in the town"
Sabrina the Catgirl skin is one of my favorites and now I cant stop smiling imagining her doing that dance y'all talked aobut
Cat girls have ruined my life. 😂😂
im kinda sad ze never spoke in chat to the people he was pirating at night lol
At least it was 2 fun roles, better than getting Investigator or Spy every round. Fun games to watch thanks Ze!!
1st game, when outing chilled as SK, should have also noted that he had to be Jackal since you weren't, Jester and Pirate can't be Jackal so it has to be either SK or WW. However I think the only survival method was to not out Chilled and instead pretend to be a Jester that is pretending to be a Cleric, Oracle or Bodyguard who just got a lucky self-protect.
These were some fun ToS2 rounds! I do agree that having Jackals turned on with such small lobbies might not make for the most balanced games, since having an SK/WW automatically on your team makes things a lot easier, but they were still entertaining, even when they took each other down early lol. It was also interesting to see Ze and the townies try to maneuver around the various neutral roles plaguing the town. Ze had some wild luck with those back-to-back-to-back-to-back Neutral roles, and I'm glad that one of them led to a victory! Redrum wins are always extra awesome! Hopefully Ze will have even more good luck next week!
I wanna see a game where a jackal killer accidently kills the jackal prime and suddenly all 3 of them are dead early on
I feel like, with how small these groups are, that Jackal needs to be off. It always has a neutral (Maybe coven?) and a town as underling and they always have Jailor and another Town Power. Just makes it basically impossible for town to win because they have 1 less and theres a 1/3 chance for the underling to be town power.
I don't think it's much different from having 2 coven and a town traitor, I just think it's a bit too much having both jester and pirate, remove em and just have once Neutral Evil (with doomsayer and executioner disabled) instead, switch the other to a town role. They should also disable vigilante, it's a bit too likely to just kill another town, SK and WW have defence, I believe Jackal does too, so best it can do is out that they shoot somebody and they survived, which doesn't inherently mean they are any of those roles. Could be monarch, bodyguard, cleric, oracle, jester or just protected by a protect role.
I feel like Vigilante needs a small tweak, just one. Giving it a 2 in attack instead of 1. When it was made in ToS 1, it was fine because they only had SK and Godfather that wouldn't die to it (Exe too but ehh)
You might be right about Jackal but there was too many neutrals for sure. Even if they were all against each other, its in none of their interests to vote and thats towns biggest defense. I recall Ze complaining about that in Among Us modded with too many win conditions.
Just to clarify, the jackal recruits are always on opposing factions.
The most common example being Town + Coven; Town + NK is possible (as seen in the video), Town + NA is possible, and NK + Coven i believe is also possible, etc.
Neutral Evils, Neutral Paraiah and other Neutral Specials cannot be recruited
@@pancho5159 I believe one has to be town and the other is a non-town role, so I don't think NK + Coven is possible. I am not certain if Doomsayer is excluded from becoming a Jackal Recruit
@@DoomsdayR3sistance doomsayer is excluded yes
All neutral Evils cannot be recruited
I know you will probably not zee this, but thank you for bringing me comfort and smiles after a hard day, Ze. I am really grateful.
Used to watch you back in the day, glad to see ya again
These rounds have been something. And my favorite part of ALL roles, was Hashbrown 🐕 speaking his truth. Hashbrown 🐕 has been the sidekick all along 😂 and it was priceless.
SPEAK YOUR TRUTH, Hashbrown 🐕
Thank you, Zeeeeeeeeeeee 😊❤
Yessss!!!! Let me just make sure you're not live before I keep watching this :3
46:00 it was def the riskier play to attack larry instead of bryce, but i love that he did ut
I love the name hash brown for your dog! And love how you play among us and TOS2
Was this video filmed on a Tuesday(two's day) by chance? That would explain the double ww, double pirate games😅
You mean the best roles?! My favourite kinda content lol
52:23 - Why did Ze claim to be attacked? The only roles who could kill night one were SK and Pirate and both were accounted for.
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Bork, Bork, Bork!
babe wake up a new town of salem video just dropped 🎉
There’s definitely something wrong with Jackal for that last game to have ended the way it did.
Bork Bork.
This happened to me when I was first starting to play, I didn't have any scrolls yet but they kept on giving me invest and trickster of all things?
What happened to market simulation Ze??? You left it off with a cliffhanger 😢😢😢
I'm jealous... I just downloaded the mobile version and there seems to be no games available
Lub dis CONTENT
uTorrent! Boy, those were the days!!
uTorrent is gone? Shame. I still remember Limewire and Napster.
@Xhumed Just no need for it anymore. Plus the likes of PirateBay keep getting shut down with days and it's more hassle than it's worth finding new sites or countries to VPN. But they were fun years when it was in its prime
What how did that end?????
Jackals win condition is kill all town. All town were dead. Jester and pirate are neutrals so they don't count as town so jackals got the win.
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I feel like it's best to remove Marshal. It kills too many too fast, which is a content killer.
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