TDX Theory: The Halloween Lore

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  • @RogueOrdinary
    @RogueOrdinary  Місяць тому +113

    Thanks for watching this video and this has been in the works since chapter 1 released lol
    I also made a playlist with all my theory videos incase you want to check out theories 1-12
    ua-cam.com/play/PL8yuW1zrXhiJhuIRNUYiBggSCISrH5z3Q.html
    Feel free to leave some of your own theories in the comments as I wanna see what you guys think (maybe i'll include some in a mini theory episode)

    • @AverageTDuck
      @AverageTDuck Місяць тому +1

      when tdx theory retires use the line "Time to theorize FOR ONE LAST TIME

    • @ananymangal6769
      @ananymangal6769 Місяць тому +2

      I have a theory too, that may tie into this theory. So like how it is mentioned that red calamity energy was used to power golden ranger, juggernaut and mine layer, so I think that this left awakened faction with less red calamity energy. But when we defeated void, we did not take his energy (at least no tower has the purple void energy, toxicnator bottom path is considered gas damage here.) So either the awakened took defeated void's energy, giving them power of tower possession, or in case Dr. Xenon made engineer or the wretched, she took the void energy and used it to do so. what do you think?

    • @adm456
      @adm456 Місяць тому +1

      Wait i got a theory, hear me out!
      What if GDA , DR.XENON and THE AWAKENED are ALL WORKING against US, THE PLAYER!
      i mean, it would make sense. Assembly line shows eradicators. Maybe that wasn't an old factory, maybe that was shut down because they wanted to keep a façade!
      It makes sense! The player has power over all troops. It also explains why GDA doesn't fund like infinite millions to each one of us.

    • @waliguirp7399
      @waliguirp7399 Місяць тому +1

      Whwre calamity

    • @HaziqIqbal-n7h
      @HaziqIqbal-n7h Місяць тому

      Hey Rogue, The Wretched Spawn has lyrics on 1:00
      "Wave After Wave, We Weaken and Eradicate"

  • @CatOnSkateboard69
    @CatOnSkateboard69 Місяць тому +277

    Tower defense game on roblox surprisingly has peak lore?

    • @randomplayer8759
      @randomplayer8759 Місяць тому +11

      that is not peak compared to something like tower blitz, tower galactica or world tower defense

    • @NotOofLegacy
      @NotOofLegacy Місяць тому +48

      ​@@randomplayer8759wtd lore is kinda shit, tbz lore is good but it's just lots of walls of text
      Tg is goat tho

    • @MrPotato2008
      @MrPotato2008 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@NotOofLegacy will you make a new decaying winter lore vid if we get more of it?

    • @Zamundead
      @Zamundead Місяць тому +3

      ​@@randomplayer8759your opinion is mid

    • @BaconBroTDX
      @BaconBroTDX Місяць тому +3

      ​@@randomplayer8759nobody asked for your mid opinion

  • @ZombPlayyz
    @ZombPlayyz Місяць тому +67

    One thing about chapter 2 is that the game specifically mentions that Factorium is one of Dr Xenon's factories which got overran by the Awakened so the Engineer could use it for his creations and experiments. I believe only Chapter One is set elsewhere, as they have a Void Orb that was corrupted, similar to those in Tower Battles while Chapter 2 is in our world and its portal was linked to the other world, as per the Calamity rune floating over it.

  • @tecnocopyyagm
    @tecnocopyyagm Місяць тому +133

    So technically we are the villains?
    25:15, I don't think they corrupted the relics, meaning the relics started fighting the calamity after GDA defeated most of them (the calamity).
    I say this because the guy who created the concept art for the relic tower said that they stole things from the calamity (It's because relics are the protectors of nature, it may be that they didn't have a physical form).
    21:53, I also want to mention that I think the soldier who fought the calamity and ended up being part of them was us, since this is said in the defeat screen (although this theory is more far-fetched and probably not true)
    There are 2 things I also want to say, and that is that there were 2 Eradicator MK 4, the first one was the one we fought in endless mode, and the second one was the one that fought the wretched.
    Maybe the awanked appeared at the same time or after we defeated the scout calamity, but they decided not to start the war with GDA since they were too weak.
    The engineer collected parts of machines and robots from both sides (GDA and Doctor Xenon) to build his suit and the wretched suit.
    And when the wretched was ready to start the war against the GDA, the second Eradicator MK 4 saw him and they started the fight, resulting in the wretched being the winner.
    But the fight made the wretched weaker and he couldn't rebuild himself since the war against GDA had already started.
    Nice video anyways.

    • @datafypickaxe4342
      @datafypickaxe4342 Місяць тому +8

      Bro imagine if we got a Erad MkIV as reinforcement in chap 4, but that would take to long and Atraz is already pulling all nighters.

    • @Junkman-t8w
      @Junkman-t8w Місяць тому +2

      Again???

    • @Matthew-hp9qf
      @Matthew-hp9qf Місяць тому +3

      ​@@datafypickaxe4342 we must respect the coder since he's the one man on the coding job

    • @pokest45-pz52
      @pokest45-pz52 Місяць тому

      The Awakened definitely aren't innocent however, considering that their primary method of recruiting appears to be be brainwashing people into mindless drones that walk headfirst into bullets without a second thought (also Engineer stealing the precious thing)

    • @Theonethattookyoursocks
      @Theonethattookyoursocks Місяць тому

      Tbh the us turning into corrupted theory is probably better proven by the fact that it plays when we’re defeated by the corrupted

  • @YeehonTsang
    @YeehonTsang Місяць тому +30

    For the “soldier” they were referring to, multiple people could be the “soldier”
    1. The player
    2. Eradicator mark 2
    3. Eradicator mark 4
    4. Apex predator
    5. Golden juggernaut
    ( Note that predator was not here, bcuz he was either too weak to fight the corruption or didn’t try to fight it at all )
    1. The player, because when we lose a game, the player will become zombified or corrupted. When we play another game, we are probably using the perspective of another clone of ourselves. This means we might have to fight our corrupted clones later in the storyline.
    2. Eradicator mark 2 probably also tried to fight the corruption, as it still had a few miniguns and a very small amount of armor( its helmet to be specific )left in itself.
    3. Eradicator mark 4 tried to defeat the wretched, but it’s attempt was not successful and it was probably corrupted or destroyed.
    4. Apex predator was already mentioned.
    5. Golden juggernaut probably also tried to fight the corrupted, but died and became corrupted while on a mission to take out the awakened.

    • @AdawaShiwani
      @AdawaShiwani Місяць тому +1

      I kind of forgot how normal cloning is in the lore or is hinted it with the many johns

    • @atifabilajac2860
      @atifabilajac2860 Місяць тому +1

      Tbh, Eradicator Mk IV did alot, lets just say... John didnt make Wretched show his face for a reasone and riped his guts??, made him go into his secend stage???, now if Wretched didnt fight a Bosnian Altillery Boss we wouldve have had way harder fight, John never ever said Wretched was at his peak so yea another reasone why Eradicator Mk IV is best 😊

    • @benw3264
      @benw3264 29 днів тому +1

      Not likely, what if we don’t have clones, but simply teleport away before anything happens to us, or if we go the TF2 route, we got a respawn machine

    • @piotrm5635
      @piotrm5635 29 днів тому

      @@AdawaShiwani I mean, isn't it normal in military to have multiple people using the same arsenal?
      So it would make sense for GDA to have like 100k golden juggernauts ready to be deployed

    • @YeehonTsang
      @YeehonTsang 29 днів тому

      @@piotrm5635 Whatever you say, there’s a possibility that we have many clones as backup in case any of our missions fail, and they’ll most likely become a part of the horde. Our infected clones might hold extreme power, and we might have to combat them in the future. I think it would be a good idea for John to add an enemy called Resurrected Player or Corrupted Player

  • @rmegativer8594
    @rmegativer8594 Місяць тому +86

    Once I saw the name of chapter 4 final boss, I immediately realized what mkiv first meant by saying: SAW THE WRETCHED SPAWN IN HALF. Dude this guy literally got memory, he crushed the time itself by his first music version appearing earlier in both game and irl than the actual Wretched. This guy warned us about the upcoming hell, but no one cared because everyone listened to him wrong. This is insane lore for a tower defence game! Now I respect MKIV instead of making fun of him for failing to destroy my warships quick enough. MKIV will now be the smartest known eradicator in TDX for now. MKIV, sorry but I couldn't have saved you.

    • @SrTekiro
      @SrTekiro Місяць тому +6

      I was thinking this too, while I was playing chapter 4 I was listening to hellspawn in the background and when the lyrics said "Saw the wretched, spawn in half" I started thinking about a possible connection between the music and the boss of chapter 4

    • @mattdecosto1103
      @mattdecosto1103 Місяць тому +4

      Sorry MK4, We wasn't familliar with ur game🔥

    • @SHADOW_F_A_X
      @SHADOW_F_A_X 29 днів тому

      Espacio pfp goes hard

    • @kinglordreynalzate
      @kinglordreynalzate 20 днів тому +1

      MK4 is fighting the awaken before endless

  • @maniacmohawk5513
    @maniacmohawk5513 Місяць тому +61

    Random theories:
    -Eradicator mk4 are likely mass produced by Dr Xenon, there’s already 3-4 mk4 we’ve meet so far (the 2 dead ones on maps, endless one and the likely one who perished against the wretched
    -The relics are likely a neutral faction, don’t interfering with anyone just doing their things, till the awakened likely attacked them and decided to join us to dealt with them

    • @everynameiwantistaken
      @everynameiwantistaken Місяць тому +10

      That mass produced theory kinda makes sense if you consider post-wave 80 canon. There is one in 103, another in 110, the speedy one in 121, two in wave 130 and 137, and the golden one in 150.

    • @aliwumensah5734
      @aliwumensah5734 Місяць тому +10

      @@everynameiwantistaken Anything past wave 80 isn't cannon lore-wise

    • @sugarmickvains7728
      @sugarmickvains7728 Місяць тому

      Every eradicator is mass produced except mk1C, since some of them are appear before wave 80 in endless
      But this is weird, because it means that there are at least 2 plague doctors? Endless is weird for lore

    • @elienidsanchez6612
      @elienidsanchez6612 Місяць тому +2

      @@aliwumensah5734anything past wave 99 wouldn’t be canon because wave 100 to 200 is just spam

    • @Mxionic
      @Mxionic Місяць тому +1

      it would make sense for MK4's to be more than one or the song doesnt make all too much sense, given he shouldn't be able to tell us about a fight with the wretched when he already lost to it. Meanwhile it being him recalling it as what he witnessed would make a bit more sense

  • @Jackeryz-Editz
    @Jackeryz-Editz 6 днів тому +2

    10:43 "you got games on your phone bro?" Looking ass face 😭

  • @smugesque
    @smugesque Місяць тому +31

    Personally I think MKIV was a weapon designed specifically to fight the calamity and its subfactions. The song for MK IV describes destroying the wretched spawn, which correlates towards the Wretch in chapter 4. Another detail is how it might be possible that MK IV doesn't use calamity energy to power itself, as opposed to almost every other one of Dr. Xenon's creation. We can infer this, because other eradicators will do what I believe is called a overheat conversion, where it uses the energy from the damage dealt against itself to repair and enrage itself. MK IV doesn't do that, and instead just sheds his armor to make a run for it. Also, MK IV ends up collapsing in on itself, as opposed to the other eradicators, or Apex Predator, who die or retreat to a core failure. Another interesting detail is the artillery gun it has on its back. We know it can deal insane damage, with one hit decimating a battleship, but in Chapter 3 we use a even bigger artillery gun to destroy the Citadel. The citadel could be similar to Calamity in terms of durability, seeing as they come from similar origins and are mountain-like.
    Also, side theory, I think the plague doctors are a offshoot of the relics.

    • @AdawaShiwani
      @AdawaShiwani Місяць тому +1

      Im pretty sure plague doctor was just one of doctor xenon’s creations to defeat a small division of the gda or possibly zombify the conscripts via its gun that shoots out gases, same for revived plague doctor being stronger and doing actual damage with its scythe and black gas, symbolising some sort of zombie plague that probably zombifies towers on death. Plague doctor actually could’ve been a failed attempt at zombifying our towers since he deals no dmg (im aware hes an ez mode boss, but it could still make sense) and instead was a successful necromancer once being, ironically brought back from the dead. But your plague doctor theory could have some sort of connection like the plague doctor using relics energy to bring back the dead!

  • @Shereen3
    @Shereen3 Місяць тому +22

    The lore in this game has me hooked, and I'm curious about the realm of The Relic.

  • @filippohl9097
    @filippohl9097 Місяць тому +36

    MK IV was most likely mass produced due to his high destructive power, safe to assume they are guarding important bases from intruders or taking out important targets. Also MK III is propably on a vacation during the events of this, or swiming in the ocean since I heard he was designed for aquatic combat, as we see there is not much water in this event. I think it is safe to assume MK III is somewhere in the ocean minding his own business. Or he could be Xenons personal bodyguard.

    • @handakin
      @handakin Місяць тому

      was it mark 5 or mark 3 that the GDA still owns?

    • @masterziggycat9779
      @masterziggycat9779 Місяць тому

      @@handakin I don't think the GDA owns any. They all contain human remains inside of them, pretty counter intuitive for a GLOBAL MILITARY ATTEMPT, don't you think?
      I personally don't think the GDA ever had a hand in the Eradicator development, and GDA tech just simply looks so similar because it was likely pulled from Dr. Xenon's inventions.

    • @AdawaShiwani
      @AdawaShiwani Місяць тому +1

      @@handakinmark 3

    • @dogrock1205
      @dogrock1205 Місяць тому

      Maybe mark 5, 6 and 7 will be in future gamemodes

    • @elienidsanchez6612
      @elienidsanchez6612 Місяць тому

      We still have MK III (by we I mean the GDA)

  • @JohnMark-ek9re
    @JohnMark-ek9re Місяць тому +17

    "SAVE ME!" "SAW THE WRETCHED SPAWN IN HALF" (my theory is that mk4 is actually helping us and he wanted us to end the awaken calamity which makes sense for him to have 2 kind of theme where it's hellspawn part 1 and the clean version, the part 1 is "saw the wretched spawn in HALF" and clean one being, "MARCH ON FORWARD, BRING THEM HELL! STRIKE THEIR TOWERS, WATCH THEN FALL!" including the word "save me") (my second theory is that xenon also created the Multipliers before malory was sacrificed to the Calamity rock which makes sense for Redacted to be clones when the scout(calamity) spawns them)

  • @NotOofLegacy
    @NotOofLegacy Місяць тому +44

    Nice overview of everything and amazing editing as always Mr glue man
    (Collab when)

    • @Klempus2137
      @Klempus2137 Місяць тому +5

      NotOofLegacy and RogueOrdinary The roblox lore youtubers

  • @SillyCato._
    @SillyCato._ Місяць тому +50

    We need eradicator MK4 as an ally, mf just fought against a stronger robot and then just died by slipping (prob).
    Peak GDA energy

    • @DubboArchives
      @DubboArchives Місяць тому +1

      he slipped on a rock and exploded causing damage to the wretched

    • @terddegamer2180
      @terddegamer2180 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@DubboArchives im imagining mk4 walking to the wretched but trips on a rock then explodes

    • @Vile_engineer
      @Vile_engineer Місяць тому

      It would have been cool if we could have seen the battle

  • @wollywogholder3313
    @wollywogholder3313 13 днів тому +3

    Hey, Rouge Fun fact:
    Relic Tower doesn't actually get any of its units corrupted by the calamity faction. Rather, it is them who purify the bodies of the calamity enemies and take them over with the spirits of dead trees.
    Maze runner is not a corrupted overseer, but instead, Overseer is an Overgrown Maze Runner.

  • @galaxy2zero557
    @galaxy2zero557 Місяць тому +22

    21:00 that is so unbelievably beatifull part, i was fr shacking, i never put something in erad's song, erad mk 4 was and will be forewer best enemy of the entire game for me🙏

  • @COOKIEHEHEH
    @COOKIEHEHEH Місяць тому +18

    21:17 Nah, I think that mk 4 broke his armour and ran away, back to Xenon to get repaired, cuz if he says that in the past tense, it means he fought The Wretched before the event of endless.

    • @lorddumb21
      @lorddumb21 Місяць тому +3

      Wretched before endless seems impossible, cuz we fought a calamity before chapter 4

    • @COOKIEHEHEH
      @COOKIEHEHEH Місяць тому +2

      @lorddumb21 Maybe Xenon also attacked the awaken for their ressources, sent her newest mech, MK IV, and when he came back to our realm, she stopped attaking them, to prevent big losses like she almost did.

    • @robowisanveithasung6022
      @robowisanveithasung6022 Місяць тому

      It’s possible that there isn’t just one eradicator mk iv

    • @piotrm5635
      @piotrm5635 29 днів тому

      @@robowisanveithasung6022 then why would this specific one know that the other one fought the wretched?

    • @robowisanveithasung6022
      @robowisanveithasung6022 29 днів тому

      @@piotrm5635 good point

  • @temmiummmr8653
    @temmiummmr8653 Місяць тому +7

    21:24 YEEAAA I NOTICED THAT A FEW MONTHS AGO ITS ALL COMING TOGETHER

  • @IvaKele-x9y
    @IvaKele-x9y Місяць тому +25

    21:51 couldnt the solider possibly be g jugg since we see him corrupted? Or mkIV since he fought against the wretched?

    • @The_being_madeof_livingbricks
      @The_being_madeof_livingbricks Місяць тому

      Prob not mkIV since it is very much dead

    • @lorddumb21
      @lorddumb21 Місяць тому

      Could be apex maybe, he is somewhat resisting the corruption

    • @Christalyz
      @Christalyz Місяць тому

      I think you're wrong here since it is the defeated screen, and if I we're to recall, wasn't there an unknown tower in the trailer that tried to fight against the awakened but inevitably lost horribly due to their numbers? But I do suspect that it could've been one of us the "commanders" of the defense

    • @BRUH-zj9gb
      @BRUH-zj9gb Місяць тому

      That unknown tower was the refractor, I thought they would add him when the helloween event drops since he was in the trailer but I guess there waiting for more stronger bosses as John said that the war machine and refractor are really op so they will first create stronger enemies then release them​@@Christalyz

    • @BRUH-zj9gb
      @BRUH-zj9gb Місяць тому

      ​@@Christalyzbut I don't think it's the refractor that the wretched mentioned because we did not see the corrupted version of him. It's probably Us or golden juggernaut

  • @Daintity
    @Daintity Місяць тому +4

    5:26 to explain/elaborate on this specifically, (atleast the weapons part) i think the reason they are using more "medieval" weapons is because they are just villagers. their minds have been basically corrupted and i dont think they are 100% in control of what they are doing. same thing with the other enemies and even some of the bosses. they arent 100% conscious so they are probably incapable of weilding a weapon (like a rifle) unless its basically welded to them (like the engineer.) idk thats js a theory lol

  • @desmonddreisewerd
    @desmonddreisewerd Місяць тому +3

    22:14 it could be relic because REMEMBER, they hate robots, what do we have, futuristic armor and weapons.

  • @Gamemaster64
    @Gamemaster64 Місяць тому +2

    Yo this story is actually fire, and the lore can mostly be found via the game itself. I like how much detail the team puts into the game, it allows for great discussion and creativity surrounding the game such as this.

  • @Trey-q3f
    @Trey-q3f Місяць тому +1

    Wow, bravo! This has got to be the best TDX halloween event theory i have seen!

  • @obsv0328
    @obsv0328 Місяць тому +25

    Another factor to the resource stealing are the golden towers. They all revolve around a weapon with a red crystal core, such as top path g ranger, bottom path g mine layer, and top path g jug.
    Edit: my dumbass didn’t see that this was inside the video, please ignore this comment.

  • @Nedd9322
    @Nedd9322 11 днів тому +1

    Look at them, Resident Evil 4. Villagers carrying pitch forks. Mr Saw is obviously the chainsaw dude. Judges are zealots, the ones that make the plagas activate/mutate. Nightmare wretched's 2nd phase is like mendez's second phase. I probably missed some other references but that's to my memory. I think they're all nice references to Resident Evil 4.

  • @dogrock1205
    @dogrock1205 Місяць тому +4

    An interesting thing I saw was that one of the corrupted villagers looked a lot like sniper, so we can assume that this villager is snipers brother.

  • @AgarTheNoob
    @AgarTheNoob Місяць тому +10

    bro gave us breakfast, lunch and dinner all in one video

  • @LALALALALALALALALA_bivch
    @LALALALALALALALALA_bivch Місяць тому +4

    This video made me realize that tdx actually has like lore like REAL lore

  • @ilovea_pple17juice
    @ilovea_pple17juice Місяць тому +6

    never expecting a whole halloween event to be part of a roblox game's actual lore.
    21:50 maybe apex predator? cuz he got corrupted after trying to fight them

    • @Skyfallgaming8291
      @Skyfallgaming8291 Місяць тому

      Nah It's The Eradicator mk IV, Because He Is Trying To Fight The Corruption While Try To Fight The Wretched Him Self, But I Think What Wretched Say "and ended up become one of them" Mean He Ended Up Dead

  • @OhItsPara
    @OhItsPara Місяць тому +8

    22:09 I think the traitor is either the medic tower, or advisor. The medic has a REVIVED PLAUGE DOCTOR SKIN, an enemy that the GDA could not have made replicas of (not like the Eradicator skins) and Advisor also says “You aren’t supposed to be here.” In endless.

    • @thekingwithaplan
      @thekingwithaplan Місяць тому +6

      Anything past wave 80 is non-canon.

    • @JostDraws
      @JostDraws Місяць тому

      NGL the not supposed to be here line kinda makes me think the advisor is suspicious, also the way he knows EVERY single monsters information, and even when redacted shows up he's surprised, he knows all of them

    • @RolandTheLibrarian
      @RolandTheLibrarian Місяць тому

      ​@@JostDrawsThe advisor is just built like that.

    • @windows8point1canbreathe
      @windows8point1canbreathe Місяць тому

      ​@@JostDraws He's a fucking advisor what did you expect

    • @masterziggycat9779
      @masterziggycat9779 Місяць тому +1

      @@JostDraws every single monster's info can be chalked up to him simply having fought them before, or studying up on records (aside from calamity based enemies)
      as for the "You're not supposed to be here" line, anything past wae 80 isn't cannon, and this line could only be found by skipping past wave 140, which was where the game forcibly cut off due to it lacking more waves at the time

  • @aryosavero3969
    @aryosavero3969 Місяць тому +5

    21:38 ,the one that actually taunts the player is Apex Predator,because in The Taunting OST,there is a line that said"Yes,I Am,Apex Predator" and maybe the soldier he is talking about is the Golden Juggernaut in the trailer who got jumped by the Villager's

    • @AdawaShiwani
      @AdawaShiwani Місяць тому +1

      Exactly what i was saying

    • @aryosavero3969
      @aryosavero3969 Місяць тому +1

      Also the enemy with the tall neck is called Tarnished Clergyman,he heals enemies around him by (???) Hp,and reduces tower's firerate by 15% around him,the enemh with glue on his eyes is called Zealot(not Zealot from The Relic tower)

  • @lolol-e6q
    @lolol-e6q Місяць тому +7

    10:02 huge doom eternal vibes

  • @A_PIGEON251
    @A_PIGEON251 Місяць тому +3

    I haven't played TDX in eight months and i guess it changed a lot.

  • @TheSnowybo
    @TheSnowybo Місяць тому +1

    Bro cooked, the lore of TDX started to go insane now! 🔥

  • @gruss2026
    @gruss2026 Місяць тому +2

    Tdx is my favorite tower defense game in terms of lore, it's absolutely insane.

  • @Apexpredator-w5z
    @Apexpredator-w5z 18 днів тому +1

    15:23 I actually think it the opposite the relic is reviving the dead awaken troops

  • @GigaMann27
    @GigaMann27 Місяць тому

    This is a really good and cool video! Great job!

  • @tene7egamer479
    @tene7egamer479 Місяць тому +2

    This is a good video!

  • @riesseloworld22
    @riesseloworld22 Місяць тому

    That's the most awesome lore in the Halloween event of tdx ever 10/10 13:17

  • @Aspenator-R2D2
    @Aspenator-R2D2 Місяць тому +17

    I think the advisor is the traitor because, in one image he saw something we didn't

    • @marcelkowalski6739
      @marcelkowalski6739 Місяць тому +3

      In endless mode he has a line "You are not supposed to be here" wich- may be just used as a info to the player that they got far but he says that on wave like 140, endless has 200 waves. Sooo maybye he is in some way "helping" idk xenon

    • @helicoptergaming822
      @helicoptergaming822 Місяць тому +3

      I don't that is canon bc canon wave is 80

    • @marcelkowalski6739
      @marcelkowalski6739 Місяць тому

      @@helicoptergaming822 Good point, as i said that text might be just an "information" to the player that "they are not supposed to be here", not so far into the game

    • @JostDraws
      @JostDraws Місяць тому

      Honestly the way he just knows about every single enemy beforehand, and that dialog line too makes him suspicious, also he's shocked by some enemies like redacted showing up, he def knows alot

    • @masterziggycat9779
      @masterziggycat9779 Місяць тому +2

      @@JostDraws He probably knows most enemies because they've fought them before, which is why he is so shocked to see things like the REDACTED in combat, since they haven't ever faced off before. Dialogue in Intermediate regarding the Revived Boss 1 Implies that either the Advisor has been around since the Tower Battle period, or has access to GDA records. While this is a much more logical interpretation, I don't believe that this should let the Advisor off of the hook.

  • @ziotanghal4503
    @ziotanghal4503 25 днів тому

    Love your video bro Keep up the good work. Your like matpat but tdx version

  • @expi-rted
    @expi-rted Місяць тому +3

    A THEORY??!! THATS THE LORE, atlest some part of the LORE. Thanks for making this video.😃😃😃😃😃👍👍👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
    Heres a madal for you.🎖️

  • @Captnparrot
    @Captnparrot Місяць тому +1

    honesteally i like way more hearing your voice than the ai matpat, makes the video more enjoyable to listen to

  • @piagrace7348
    @piagrace7348 8 днів тому

    21:40...
    Ohhhhhh he talks about the g juggernaut what we saw the trailer in chapter 4 corrupt g juggernaut

  • @kaidenraimrez
    @kaidenraimrez 17 днів тому +1

    Fire 19:26

  • @PiopaterBoblox
    @PiopaterBoblox Місяць тому +1

    ay thats my picture in 7:42 anyway really good theory and i think that the soldier could have been apex predator as he fought against the corruption however am still a bit confused on the line "yes. i am apex predator" in the taunting.

  • @WooIverine
    @WooIverine Місяць тому +3

    The calamity army kinda reminds me of the Colossal Titans that cause the Rumbling in Attack on Titan. Maybe something similar can happen where it could possibly end the world?

  • @Floweyenjoyer
    @Floweyenjoyer Місяць тому +5

    3:48
    THE RUMBLING

  • @Randomr-e8f
    @Randomr-e8f Місяць тому +1

    I theorize the eradicator MK4 in endless and the one that fought the wretched are the same, this would make sense due to the music in endless having those lines, xenon could have retrieved a memory chip, or she may have a memory transfer device ( wouldn't be surprised if she had one ) to transfer its memory to a new suit.
    - But this does not mean MK4 isn't mass produced in xenon's faction ( meaning it could be a different one ) as Eradicator MK4 is technically the most easy to produce as MK4 is the only modular Eradicator, as we can see with MK4 when he goes into base rush phase where his armor looks like it was actually Thrusted off by forcing the modules off, instead of it breaking off, a claim supporting MK4 being modular is that not even a cyborg mech would have the reaction time to think to run when its all of its armor breaks off in one whole, meaning it has to just be forced off/programmed into the eradicator to do that function to increase efficiency and up the chances that the eradicator breaches your base.
    - The Base Rush Phase Eradicator MK4 can be seen as the most easily produced due to mainly just having Light steel/titanium armor and a visor, no weapons, meant to be a last resort to increase mobility heavily to damage the base and most possibly sacrifice itself as the only thing in Base Rush Phase Eradicator MK4's goal is to ignore all obstacles and only focus on the base
    - This concludes that Eradicator MK4 is the most easily produced, but the most cost efficient as well as material efficient, and that many more can be produced.

  • @--Mega--
    @--Mega-- Місяць тому +1

    The best quality tdx video I've seen so far

  • @masonleeds5164
    @masonleeds5164 Місяць тому +2

    sorry for spamming stuff, but when MK4 is screaming all that stuff, I think it is a message to Dr. Xenon. At the end with his final breath, he is saying "save me" after he had beaten up the wretched but had his mask ripped off and he was killed by the wretched grabbing his head and squeezes it so hard he died, I know this because you can see a head that looks like it is screaming for help.

  • @Google_Master
    @Google_Master Місяць тому +1

    Рус: Этот разбор лора был очень интересным, спасибо!
    Eng: This analysis of lore was very interesting, thank you!

  • @I_FlyHigh
    @I_FlyHigh Місяць тому +5

    GUYS, we gotta sell matpat he gonna reveal our secrets and our lore

  • @ItzJustKrampus
    @ItzJustKrampus Місяць тому +3

    20:23 without subtitles:😃 With subtitles:💀

  • @KD-Slayer105
    @KD-Slayer105 Місяць тому +1

    I love how majority of the event is just Doom References.
    For one, the beams up into the sky making some sorta demonic symbol like the citadel in Chapter 3 and 4 or the Scorched map resemble that of which is Argent Tower or Nekroval in both 2016 and Eternal.
    Next are Heretic and Engineer’s dialogue in Nightmare. Heretic takes lines from Deag Ranak in Eternal, while Engineer takes a few lines from Marauder which is also in Eternal. Show’s how much love John has for the Doom franchise.

  • @shion3546
    @shion3546 27 днів тому

    Two of the only best roblox TDS games having peak lore is crazy

  • @thekingwithaplan
    @thekingwithaplan Місяць тому +4

    How come the Awakened are a Sub-Faction of Calamity if they use power of the Void, a higher being than Hell? as John himself said that the Void is a being much more powerful than Calamity and resides in his own domain, a domain beyond Hell which is most likely where Calamity resides, somewhere deeper than Hell, well, we can assume that afterwards the invasion of Void, a literal God, had purple orbs in the entrances serving as access portals, we can assume that with the access portals they acquired even more powerful magic with the Void's magic from the Void Portal Orbs or maybe accessed the abyss for them, because as you can see- if the Void is a being more powerful than Calamity, therefore if the invasion was done without the powers of the Void, it may not have even happened- or it just maybe would outcome differently, only the powers of the Abyss (domain of the Void) can corrupt entities, therefore with that in mind without the powers of the Void no one would become corrupted, such as Apex Predator or Eradicator MK II, or the enemies would come weaker and with different entities presumably with less strength than what they currently have, and on another hand- it is mentioned that Calamity is merely a "scout" mentioned by the wretched himself, therefore we can assume that if the Wretched knows that Calamity is a Scout means that he was once a resident of Hell which is presumably the residence of Calamity and his entities.
    TL;DR They acquired powers from the Abyss (domain of the Void), Awakened we're once residents of Hell by assumption of Wretched's knowledge, that being him clarifying Calamity is a "Scout", Void being a stronger entity than Hell means the invasion would've been weaker, without the powers of the Void, corruption would not be viable, as only the Void with abyssal powers knows how to corrupt, the Void being a God much more powerful than Calamity himself, Hell being presumably a residence of Calamity, Awakened, and his other entities.

    • @BRUH-zj9gb
      @BRUH-zj9gb Місяць тому

      But why is he weaker then both calamity and wretched then if he's stronger, and did not he die?

    • @thekingwithaplan
      @thekingwithaplan Місяць тому +1

      @BRUH-zj9gb Your're talking about game balancing not canonically, Void is a god and is miles stronger than Calamity and Wretched.

    • @thekingwithaplan
      @thekingwithaplan Місяць тому

      @BRUH-zj9gb He dies but his Orbs stayed, that is proven with the Calamity map.

  • @A59ri
    @A59ri 25 днів тому +1

    my personal theory:one of the eradmk4 (they are massproduced) was corrupted, but fought back, causing the wretched to lose his face, lower torso and legs, and require his suit and mask. he was killed instead of being corrupted. the redacted from the calamity were turned into vile seraphs. The Taunting was sung by apex predator, since he says “i am.. apex.. predator..” . it is talking about the golden juggernaut as the one who tried to fight, and the traitor is Advisor, due to his wave 120 endless line. the calamity was sent back to hell, and the awakened are those who worship the calamity, awakening their beliefs. they corrupt the destroyed apex predator and eradmk2(somehow, these are the two enemies who explode in a huge explosion).

  • @sugarmickvains7728
    @sugarmickvains7728 Місяць тому +3

    I think main reason why Dr. Xenon betrayed GDA because she simply hates the propaganda, and maybe how GDA rules with its power
    I think so because some of her lines from last year xmas event and some pieces of lore during Tower Battles event

  • @TheLoneMan-fk2iu
    @TheLoneMan-fk2iu Місяць тому +5

    Hey man If you really pay attention of the death animations of each towers in the game, theres one tower that have the symbol of the Calamity, heres a tip this symbol can be found on the 3rd up grade path like 3-0 or 0-3 goodluck

    • @rpgpower3807
      @rpgpower3807 Місяць тому

      Now I am curious, please tell me

    • @anas-vq3gj
      @anas-vq3gj Місяць тому

      Hey can you give us a hint about which type of that tower is fpr example:early tower, middle game tower or endgame tower

  • @kaidenraimrez
    @kaidenraimrez 12 днів тому +1

    The traitor might be a visor or ranger because guess what he does the lowest DPS he basically does nothing to the bosses and maybe that’s their plan

  • @KimonXD
    @KimonXD 12 днів тому +1

    18:36 uhm... U sure engineer wrote it? I mean... HE DOESNT HAVE FINGERS😂😂

  • @Soldieriswinning
    @Soldieriswinning Місяць тому +1

    7:38 i can guess that engineer replaced his flesh with mechanics by himself. Like he is crazy scientist.

  • @toymasterjames
    @toymasterjames Місяць тому +3

    Matpat better come outa retirement to see this banger 🗣️🔥🗣️🔥🗣️🔥

  • @Thejkv_
    @Thejkv_ Місяць тому +2

    "and santa clause to defeat the GDA" nice try dr. xenon

  • @MarivicPeji
    @MarivicPeji Місяць тому +1

    Its too damn accurate. This isn't a theory anymore this is a lore.

  • @Aspenator-R2D2
    @Aspenator-R2D2 Місяць тому +2

    fun fact old versions of the intermediate zombies had the red strap thing on them

  • @Pin0fPoints
    @Pin0fPoints 20 днів тому

    I actually like the perspective of how no one is right in this game
    As we may be the heroes in our perspective, but also a valid reason to be a villain.

  • @Pheonix_boys
    @Pheonix_boys Місяць тому +1

    Now that i think about it...did we ever see the Howlings? I dont remember seeing them in any of the nights...

  • @kobolds_den
    @kobolds_den 23 дні тому +1

    I think when the engineer says pieces of our fallen i think he means the enemies we kill since he says pieces of our demise and dr xenon army is trying to bring our demise

  • @shev1-dz5wm
    @shev1-dz5wm Місяць тому +3

    Nice video, however I will say a lot of this is based off some pretty long stretches such as the Eradicator MK4 theme. As far as I know, the Erad MK4 theme was made before the Wretched was even conceptualized. Also, the dead MK4s are probably just decoration.

    • @RolandTheLibrarian
      @RolandTheLibrarian Місяць тому

      TDX has already established it having tons of lore, having eradicator MK4 as decoration is very unlikely.

  • @generallyupsetfetus
    @generallyupsetfetus Місяць тому +4

    I think the deceased MK4's shouldn't be looked into so much, beyond maybe the one in the lobby. We all know John and his team were under heavy time constraints the entire halloween event, so they're likely just reused assets for GDA/Xenon mechs.
    I doubt ANY eradicator was made more than once in canon. The story views them more as characters, instead of enemy types, so that should be how the playerbase views them. This is proven by the fact MK1C isn't simply a new iteration of MK1, but a repaired variant of MK1, when he could've easily been, well, not that.
    Additionally MK4's song lyrics may be a simple coincidence, because the track was originally created as fanmade song for Doom Eternal, and the Roblox-Censored version of Hellspawn doesn't even try to retain the same meaning as its YT counterpart.
    Also:
    As to who created the Engineer, he was likely a "lesser" construct or entity of the awakened who quite literally made himself stronger through scavenging the remains of both Xenon and the GDA's forces: the tallied shoulder plate probably isn't his.
    The Wretched, similarly, is an awakened original. We know the awakened are smart enough to make tanks, dreadnoughts, revive the mechs of Xenon, and even build a mechanical suit for The Wretched, so it's not out of the question for the Wretched to simply be an external factor.
    Finally: The Taunting's mentioning of a traitor is probably in it of itself a taunt. He's calling the losing player a traitor to the GDA.

    • @masterziggycat9779
      @masterziggycat9779 Місяць тому

      not too sure about the last part about the traitor, but your interpretation is certainly interesting and should be held in regard and looked into.

    • @Brickcyn
      @Brickcyn Місяць тому

      If you look it like a developer, i dont think most of your points will last.

    • @generallyupsetfetus
      @generallyupsetfetus Місяць тому

      @@Brickcyn I don't see how. Do you really think the TDX team would think this far in for lore in time constraints?
      It's a purely logical approach.
      Unless you believe it's more logical to coincide a song from Eight Months Ago to an event we KNOW was developed nigh' on the spot towards its later chapters.

    • @Brickcyn
      @Brickcyn Місяць тому

      @@generallyupsetfetus I think you need to watch shows or games with more lore.

    • @generallyupsetfetus
      @generallyupsetfetus Місяць тому

      @@Brickcyn I do. I think you should understand that lore is a matter of planning and as a writer it's hard to tie everything together intentionally.
      You can't just assume everything connects. That's not theory crafting. That's conspiracy.

  • @KingBob-r2h
    @KingBob-r2h Місяць тому +3

    18:36 the answer is john has written this paper 💀💀💀

  • @EzequielPalazzolo
    @EzequielPalazzolo Місяць тому +1

    MK4 is the goat, thats why hes my favorite dude. Bro fought with honor.

  • @EradicatorMKll
    @EradicatorMKll Місяць тому +5

    Can't wait another whole year to see calamity return in next halloween 😭😭😭

  • @vachandub9472
    @vachandub9472 Місяць тому +3

    Erad MK 4 is giving me D16 vibes (Megatron)

  • @Fh3fg
    @Fh3fg Місяць тому +2

    So, you know how Mk IV is dead in chapter 3 map? With other artillery. He has a artillery on his back. What if he was helping us to beat the thing in the middle with his artillery until wretched came and then a fight began them until he lost.

  • @5h4k80
    @5h4k80 Місяць тому +1

    This why Mk4 is the goat of all erads
    He may run like a coward but it was to do his job
    A last ditch strategy
    Loyal towards Dr xenon

  • @AboveGoober
    @AboveGoober Місяць тому +1

    The fact that we have the relic tower must mean that when we were fighting the Awakened we must have teamed up with them.

  • @nivram8081
    @nivram8081 Місяць тому

    24:08 this is literally a game theory moment,
    “AND Santa Claus” is how matpat would say it

  • @itsumibestgirl3490
    @itsumibestgirl3490 11 днів тому

    I find hard that Dr Xenon work with them, since the Big Robot (like Apex Predator, and fact we didn’t see corruption MK IV and Custom MK I) shouldn’t be fighting back if that the case or a list turn off in order to reduce risk of fail corruption and more MK corruption would has show up.
    Judge by the sound, it sound like both GDA, Awaken Calamity and Dr Xenon’s Army have big crash between two. Cause Predator and MK IV were fighting back corruption. Best to assume it wasn’t just only GDA’s army vs Awaken Calamity’s army to some degree.

  • @piticogames1331
    @piticogames1331 Місяць тому +3

    I WANT MORE LORE *tbw i like ur vidos*

  • @hangcua6145
    @hangcua6145 25 днів тому +1

    The traidor is advisor bc of the wave 120 dialog aswell as others

  • @ellsanti6171
    @ellsanti6171 Місяць тому

    and the fact that the song that appears in the music video talk about the wretched, while the actual bossfight song that plays in game talks about killing our towers
    maybe dr xenon, seeing how the calamity was about to become incredibly powerfull, programmed a special mk IV to be aggresive towards the wretched, not the GDA

  • @gkkynl654
    @gkkynl654 Місяць тому +1

    i think if tdx would do a collab with tds awakened fallen king, nuclear monster, and void reaver, would be enteties with a runic symbol. also lord exo could be behind some of the corruption, seeing as fragments or the entire god cube could make people more evil and more powerful. also narrator couldve got a taste of the god cube as well, and also the masqeruade couldve been a force like the calamity or the relics. also accelerators might draw there power from another entetie symbol beacuse a lot of accel skins have a circle or something similar under their hood.

  • @Jeremy90195
    @Jeremy90195 Місяць тому +1

    Note the fact MKIV has heavy armor grenades and missiles along with an artillery cannon on his back what if Xenon made MKIV to counter the wretched

    • @AdawaShiwani
      @AdawaShiwani Місяць тому +1

      Most likely and he isn’t powered by any calamity energy, he doesn’t explode from overheating upon death, instead from an imbalance of weight after shredding his armour and tripping

  • @bonniefox111
    @bonniefox111 Місяць тому

    This is a really good video

  • @karnkarniththecarnatoraus
    @karnkarniththecarnatoraus Місяць тому +1

    mk4 was always my favorite boss, more reasons to love him are always welcome

  • @reconsider3735
    @reconsider3735 Місяць тому +1

    i would like a video on the nature of endless mode for the lore, as i think it is very interesting debating wether waves 81+ are canon.

  • @RolandTheLibrarian
    @RolandTheLibrarian Місяць тому +2

    22:10 traitor what?

  • @Pheonix_boys
    @Pheonix_boys Місяць тому +1

    7:39 i think engineer...likes calamity a *bit* too much

    • @Magmaticin
      @Magmaticin Місяць тому

      Likes calamity?

    • @Pheonix_boys
      @Pheonix_boys Місяць тому

      @Magmaticin pls don't make me explain it, do you not see it?

  • @TheRealSmilerVision
    @TheRealSmilerVision Місяць тому +1

    14:44 my stupid ass can't look at MrP's discord pfp without thinking it's an omori reference

  • @randomperson-real
    @randomperson-real Місяць тому +1

    that intro is so fire 😭

  • @supermaciejgames6863
    @supermaciejgames6863 Місяць тому +1

    7:10 I think that engineer in nightmare mode says that dr. Xenon was also corupted by The Awakened. And also there are multiple of the same eradicators. In this theory Mk I C is new version of Mk I

  • @Vietnamgala
    @Vietnamgala Місяць тому +1

    So eradicator mk IV ost name “Hellspawn” makes sense now, it seems pretty random at first.

  • @trashedx6691
    @trashedx6691 Місяць тому +1

    As for the traitor i feel like it could xwm since in the 2nd chapter the engineers emp knockouts every mechanical suit or machine potentially meaning they could be infected but they just dont know it yet. Probably in future there could be a dreadnought xwm with great power and great risk further proving the wretcheds point on us stealing material from them like we did with calamity for the golden suits.
    But hey its just a theory after all📖

  • @iuliancristianbalean7026
    @iuliancristianbalean7026 26 днів тому

    The Advisor is sus Above all, say I'm surprised you made it this far

  • @VECTRICON3-yq2ew
    @VECTRICON3-yq2ew 26 днів тому

    6:40 John is one of us that dint notice whats GDA doing

  • @normal_handle47
    @normal_handle47 Місяць тому +1

    idont think she left cus they tried to use clamity energy beacuse she was trying to use it too so that means it was prob the other way around untill the gda reialed how op the clmaity energy is and now are trying to use it

  • @JoshuapaulMyers
    @JoshuapaulMyers 4 дні тому

    I believe that the wretched is eradicated mkIII I believe this because if he is an eradicated and he is a member of the awakened he would see himself as "awakened" and might believe himself to be a creation of the calamity. Each eradicated has their own quirks and purpose eradicator mk1 is the standard eradicated foot soldier mkII is the juggernaut mk4 is the artillery or long distance support so it would make sense that mkIII is movement or built around speed.