Intro 0:01 Products & Prices Test 0:48 Concentration ratio Test 5:07 Quality of Product Instructions Test 6:47 Degreasing Power Test 22:38 Stain Removal Test 25:18 Residue Test 26:49 Discolouration of Leather Test 27:15 Tyre Cleaning Test 29:29 Wet Out Surface Tension Test 30:37 Sutability For Colycarb Test 31:52 Ph Levels 33:40 Steel plate test 34:16 Aluminium Plate Test 36:11 Test Results and breakdown from 13th place to 4th place 38:42 Top 3 🥇🥈🥉 55:23 1st Place Winner 🔥😎💪🏾 59:38
@@ForensicDetailing it's the least I can do for helping us all with your knowledge ,time and effort in giving us these videos over the years family 🔥😎👊🏾💨
Absolutely agree. A lot of work on the testing phase and then, the man has to edit and assemble a video! Phew! 🥵 Well done, sir. Well done.👏👍 And, thank you.
Surfex HD winning the test….we all saw it coming ! You were banging its drum years ago and despite the industry hurling what it can at it Surfex comes out on top still….I love the whole Autoglanz range so seeing it 2nd was great. Huge respect for the time, effort and care to make over an hour for us to watch. Top job !
I'm really really glad to see you agreed with what I mentioned in the last video about the wording and titling being an important factor to consider (All purpose cleaner vs multi surface cleaner) and the overall implications on whether or how a product should be judged based on what it claims to do. I believe that you hit the nail on the head here exactly! By just looking at the problem from a different angle it seems sorta brilliant, and judging based on the clarity and claims of the instructions themselves is the perfect way to do it. Amazing job here on the video Jon. It stands in great service to the detailing community and we all owe you our thanks.
I like how you try your best sticking to a consistent scientific method. Hypothesize, experiment, control variables to the best of your knowledge and determine unknown variables by tweaking known ones. Also like that you did virtually every material to be found in a car. No one puts manufacturers claims to test the way you do John!!!
Wow, the attention to detail in this review is second to none 💥 Just love all the hard work, fairness, care and attention you put into these mega tests Jon - amazing! So versatile these APC’s and can even handle a greasy mullet 🤣 I’m loving the BHSHD at 1:10 and 1:100 - my favourite 🤩
I've used meguiars APC on tons of interior and exterior surfaces. I've used it tons without gloves. It works great for tires and wheel wells. I've used it on siding for the house and to clean off my mowers and tractors. Works great!
Never used anything other than Surfex HD in the short time I've been a weekend warrior, and that's all down to your earlier videos Jon. So pleased it came out top. Great job, thanks Jon.
I just ordered a 25 liter container of surfed hd for $140 usd from clean garage which is a awesome deal since 5 liters is usually just under 50 shipped. I’m replacing about 5 products with this stuff after using it a lot and loving it especially the vary mild smell compared to most other cleaners.
I wasn’t surprised, I have been hooked on BH products since I started detailing. Non detailing use which is absolutely brilliant, I have a gas over glass hob in the kitchen, which is a nightmare to get smear free, a 1% surfex mix, fine spray over the hob and wiped off leaves it gleaming and grease free, if 1% can do that on a cooking hob. It shows it can handle anything
Totally agree. It's superb everywhere. 1 to 5 is for outside of the car, tires, engine bay, bicycles. 1 to 50ish for kitchen, bathroom, etc. Flash and Method don't get a look in anymore. 1l lasts me an eternity, so if I use a bit too much, I simply don't care cos it's cheap.
Thank you for the thorough test! I can confirm & testify that I'm satisfied with the Koch GS. I bought it before watching this, based on recommendation from really good shop, and all I can say it's indeed 5 star. I spilled a bit of it on the garage floor last week by accident, and its still foaming when i clean the floor, i need water only since then :)
Great job, Jon! Massive respect for all the work you put in to give these results! I find Optimum No Rinse to be an effective and cheap light cleaner for all interior surfaces, especially glass. Just clean with wet microfiber towel and wipe dry.
Interesting. My money and prediction is with BH - I bought BH products on your recommendations and multiple test results. I use surfex HD for things around the garage and the house in varying concentrates. Most versatile thing I've ever used. Briliant skirting board cleaner!
The one and only channel thats it top of the bill in testing products. Thanks allot for these vids, we see the time and effort that you put in these vids.
Thanks for taking the time to do this John :-). I've been using Surfex HD for over 15 years and it never lets me down. A superb product and a worthy winner.
What a mega review, must have taken you a very long time. I'm not surprised by the winner Bilt Hamber seem to make some really good products. Thanks for the video, look forward to the next one.
As an all rounder, BH is unbeatable. As a straight-up degreaser, Screwfix's No Nonsense Degreaser is superb for about £10. Use it for the dirtiest bits of the engine bay and my bicycle drivetrain. Way more powerful than BH, but it's use case scenario is much more limited.
Sorry Jon I got carried away with the vid, thanks for the Forensic account of these products, you really do live up to the name of the channel… thank you
A superb, non-biased deep dive into APCs. I've used several of these and agree with the findings. Valet Pro is a decent APC but limited in its application and strength. Meguiars is okay, but I've experienced the staining some people have had with it, and the stains have been permanent in some cases. Bilt Hamber is the absolute king, and I use it at various dilutions for just about everything. Thanks so much for the immense time and effort that's gone into this analysis.
I find APC so so cheap. And then you dilute upto 100/200 times . It’s so cheap one not to worry about . I’m happy Surfex BH. Thanks videos on APC. Would never have heard of BH before watching your videos
I’ve been considering diluting D101 to 15:1 and possibly even 20:1 for interiors. 10:1 is a bit overkill and took off a very light top layer of paint/dye on an armrest once.
Thank you Jon, such a detailed and thorough test, much better than anyone else on YT. No surprised BH won, all of their products are very good if not the absolute best, at the same time being amazingly cheap.
Hi John. Maybe the question isn’t related to the video but I still think it’s a interesting question that I’ve been tormenting myself with while on holidays. I find myself wanting to clean the car while away but really don’t have access to proper equipment. No power washer no snow foam Just a hose and a bucket. A video or even a reply on the matter would be interesting. Maybe I haven’t asked the question properly but I hope you get what I mean. Cheers John from a sunny Wexford in the Republic of Ireland ✌️
@@SE43 interesting I watched the video on ONR yesterday. I thought it was great but unfortunately it’s not available in Ireland and would have to buy it on Amazon. At least I know for next year
@@NipponStiqqyPaint interesting I watched the video on ONR yesterday. I thought it was great but unfortunately it’s not available in Ireland and would have to buy it on Amazon. At least I know for next year
The problem with your scoring is, if I just use tap water and sell it cheap, make safe on leather/metal/plastic then it's going to gain a lot of marks. CarChem is basically useless, might as well be tap water, but it scored more marks than a product that IS good at cleaning.
That was hard work for that amount of products to be tested and evaluated. Its a shame some of those others have missed out of a lot of points by labeling failures. I think Jon should have made people aware on this channel that please don't use Carpro MulitX on your hair or scalp. 🤭
Comprehensive tests with some surprising results. Good to know mild products as well as tough cleaning ability. I’ve been using Green Star and more recently Surfex HD based on your previous reviews. Both seem good, I do like Green Star on wheels as I can see the dirt flow off.
Well-done that man! Fantastic tests, brilliantly put together and narrated. Nice to see you doing the long form stuff dude, it's what you are brilliant at.
In the States, I use 'Super Clean" degreaser or APC. It cost $22.00 (US) for 2.5 gallons (320 oz) or 19 liters. It is available at most US retailers, no need to order online. It can be diluted 4:1 for tires, engines or other exterior surfaces. And 10:1 for interiors, plus has many uses around the house. You get this Most Bang for the Buck, for this product. Jon, thanks for your time & effort on producing these videos.
I think super clean may not rank well in this test as it's quite harsh. It's SDS says it has a pH of 12.5-13.8, and causes skin, eye, and inhalation irritation. And Super Clean says do not use on: aluminum, prolonged contact w/ paint, prolonged contact w/ glass.
@@themikeroberts Michael thanks for your comment. I am a car enthusiast a non professional, I like to use products that are simple to use and may have multiple functions. I use the KISS principle (keep it simple stupid) plus it is easily available at a retail store. I am NOT saying this product is superior to others, but works for me.
Just watched this. What an effort so it earned a comment to say thanks! Still some of the best comparisons on this site and help me choose products every time. Awesome effort.
Meguiars is great, I use it. Be very careful not to mix to strong as it will residue pretty bad. It will stain leather if to strong and will also stain porous plastic.
A massive amount of effort was put into this video!! All the same shortcomings as I found when shopping for an APC. The frustrating lack of what it's safe on, what it's not safe on and dilution ratio. Price / ratio is more important than price per litre.
Noticed the same thing with Meguiars All Purpose Cleaner on white leather seats. It makes leather much more white even when dilutet 1 to 10. Allso if it spills to leather and sits there for a while it leave those white spots bit more like bleach. Dont know how safe it is to leather after all. Thanks for very informative video!
yes, and overspray is prone to leaving more residue. Its very foamy product, but it also contains things like potassium hydroxide and sodium silicates (IIRC) which are powerfull cleaners due to a mild (desirable) corrosive effect. But these can leave white residue if not properly rinsed. I used to love Megs APC still like it for fabrics funny enough. But the UK and Germany in my opinion have better engineered surfactant blends with a strong concentration of safer surfactant choices that are typically more expensive. American laws on chemicals are more relaxed than the UK and Germany (EU). Thats why I sometimes say American Soaps are not great compared to European or UK. Its usually down to the additional of powerfull cheap caustic additives (ok for pro use not so great for continual use on cars by guys at home)
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks for information, that explains alot. I will allso continue to use Megs occasionally for hard stains in fabrics because of it's great cleaning potential, but goint to replace it for more delicated surfaces.
You must try Bio-circle CB 100, that shit is amazing, non toxic, non flammable, removes grease and any dirt with ease. Bought it in a local hardware store in Sweden for about 23$ 0.5 liter. Atleast try 1 bottle, you won't be dissapointed.
You got the best channel for detailing!!! No advertising or deception which is hard to find in youtube. Keep going! Can you do a water etch testing on ceramic coatings and sprays please? I don't think anyone has ever done that before
I used Bilt inside the car but I didn’t like how it’s working, maybe my rate dilutions isn’t ok. The car was very dirty. I consider the nextzett w99 more efficient.
Well done on the test 👍 very thorough. Best APC I've used it's a trade product and it's from Auto Rae Chem and it's A10-1 and you can use that on anything and it's a very good cleaner on tyres, interior, upholstery and leather. Can also use it as a wheel cleaner & Pre wash. Really good stuff £58 for 25L 👍 I like products that do the job first time of asking, to save time. And A10-1 ✔️ the boxes
Great test. I understand your reasoning for using the recommended dilutions for ranking purposes, but it seems like that just encourages manufacturers to list unrealistic ratios. Plus who actually follows directions for apc's😉
Awesome showdown. Which would you advise between Verso, Multistar and Valet Pro as a regular use pleasant smelling apc? I only miss out the mighty Surfex as I've heard it doesn't smell too great?
Based on this exhausting test I'll be buying Surfex over Optimum Power Clean and that's a product I've been using EXCLUSIVELY for the past 12 yrs bring an active member of AutoGeek❗️
@@ForensicDetailing I remember you mentioning that before but based on my experience with Auto-foam, Touchless & AutoWash I can't see being disappointed 💯
1st of Jon, Really like how you have got better and better over the years, your videos are mind blowing now, pure facts etc , Really like this APC video, i know exactly what to buy next ! Keep up the good work. I've got Demon Clean, but it works out £25 for 5 litre!, wont be buying that again (as you cant dilute it)
is Super Clean not available in the UK? in the US, its among the most widely available and economical degreasers on the market. Also, Simple Green APC is pretty common as well.
@@ForensicDetailing whenever you want atomic start a Forensic Detailing USA Channel Jon, let me know. It'll most likely end up being like Top Gear USA, maybe half as good as the Brit version, but I'm game
Loving your videos, I've learnt a lot.. have you done any videos on soft top convertible care and protect products?? Been looking through your videos and not found one yet??
I recently picked up some products from slims and the koch was on offer so i grabbed a bottle, mixed it at 1/2 a ltr in to a 5ltr can & topped up with water. I cant fault it yes not the best degreaser at that concentration but on door shuts leather very pleased with it though some discolouration of black plastic seat backs if left on for a minute 🤦♂️ ( phone call ) removed with a trim sheen product, Overall though pretty decent results
if your going to measure PH its best to do it neat. PH is meaningless though people do not understand it. PH12 could be milder and less caustic than PH7 for example. Its more about chemical function. PH at best is a finger in the wind.
How about a price comparison for the amount of product needed to achieve the same results? Not just APC but other stuff. How good is a cheap cost product if you need twice as much concentration to get as good a result as a product that "seems" slightly more expensive?
Intro 0:01
Products & Prices Test 0:48
Concentration ratio Test 5:07
Quality of Product Instructions Test 6:47
Degreasing Power Test 22:38
Stain Removal Test 25:18
Residue Test 26:49
Discolouration of Leather Test 27:15
Tyre Cleaning Test 29:29
Wet Out Surface Tension Test 30:37
Sutability For Colycarb Test 31:52
Ph Levels 33:40
Steel plate test 34:16
Aluminium Plate Test 36:11
Test Results and breakdown from 13th place to 4th place 38:42
Top 3 🥇🥈🥉 55:23
1st Place Winner 🔥😎💪🏾 59:38
Thx u kindly sir
@@ForensicDetailing it's the least I can do for helping us all with your knowledge ,time and effort in giving us these videos over the years family 🔥😎👊🏾💨
Thank you
THANK YOU!
Thanks mate
I will call this THE greatest detailing video on UA-cam, period!
Standing ovation for the amount of work gone into this. Hugely informative video John thank you! Also delighted Surfex won 😁🇬🇧
Absolutely agree. A lot of work on the testing phase and then, the man has to edit and assemble a video! Phew! 🥵
Well done, sir. Well done.👏👍
And, thank you.
Bilt hamber mostly win all of his tests
@@SALSimon89that's because they work the best
Surfex HD winning the test….we all saw it coming ! You were banging its drum years ago and despite the industry hurling what it can at it Surfex comes out on top still….I love the whole Autoglanz range so seeing it 2nd was great. Huge respect for the time, effort and care to make over an hour for us to watch. Top job !
I'm really really glad to see you agreed with what I mentioned in the last video about the wording and titling being an important factor to consider (All purpose cleaner vs multi surface cleaner) and the overall implications on whether or how a product should be judged based on what it claims to do.
I believe that you hit the nail on the head here exactly! By just looking at the problem from a different angle it seems sorta brilliant, and judging based on the clarity and claims of the instructions themselves is the perfect way to do it.
Amazing job here on the video Jon. It stands in great service to the detailing community and we all owe you our thanks.
I've got 5L Surfex HD will last me many many years! 👍 Great work with the reviews John!
I like how you try your best sticking to a consistent scientific method. Hypothesize, experiment, control variables to the best of your knowledge and determine unknown variables by tweaking known ones. Also like that you did virtually every material to be found in a car. No one puts manufacturers claims to test the way you do John!!!
Jesus, this must've taken forever. I'd imagine you were dreaming about APC's for weeks.
Fair play. Great content.
Thanks to you, I`ve been using Surfex HD for years now. Love it.
Thanks for taking the time to do this. I use Koch normally, but I may well switch to Surfex ,every penny saved keeps me competitive.
Wow, the attention to detail in this review is second to none 💥 Just love all the hard work, fairness, care and attention you put into these mega tests Jon - amazing! So versatile these APC’s and can even handle a greasy mullet 🤣 I’m loving the BHSHD at 1:10 and 1:100 - my favourite 🤩
I've used meguiars APC on tons of interior and exterior surfaces. I've used it tons without gloves. It works great for tires and wheel wells. I've used it on siding for the house and to clean off my mowers and tractors. Works great!
Yer it's good problem is they all work. But I think price and performance is needed to win these tests megs is expensive in UK.
@@ForensicDetailing I bought a gallon yesterday in US for $23. One gallon makes several gallons for me. Thanks for the videos! Keep up the good work.
Never used anything other than Surfex HD in the short time I've been a weekend warrior, and that's all down to your earlier videos Jon. So pleased it came out top. Great job, thanks Jon.
I just ordered a 25 liter container of surfed hd for $140 usd from clean garage which is a awesome deal since 5 liters is usually just under 50 shipped. I’m replacing about 5 products with this stuff after using it a lot and loving it especially the vary mild smell compared to most other cleaners.
was it on sale? lol thats a steal
I’ve been waiting for this and it’s finally here! Brilliant and in depth video as always John.
I wasn’t surprised, I have been hooked on BH products since I started detailing. Non detailing use which is absolutely brilliant, I have a gas over glass hob in the kitchen, which is a nightmare to get smear free, a 1% surfex mix, fine spray over the hob and wiped off leaves it gleaming and grease free, if 1% can do that on a cooking hob. It shows it can handle anything
Totally agree. It's superb everywhere. 1 to 5 is for outside of the car, tires, engine bay, bicycles.
1 to 50ish for kitchen, bathroom, etc.
Flash and Method don't get a look in anymore.
1l lasts me an eternity, so if I use a bit too much, I simply don't care cos it's cheap.
great to see someone addressing how the products never give you good info and why its so hard to make a educated choice.
Best product testing and reviewing channel on UA-cam!
Your dedication to the science of detailing is 2nd to none. This info is worth being paid for! Thank you for your hard work 💎
Thanks for including a polycarb test John, very important for motorbikes with screens
LOVE THE MEGA TESTS JON KEEP THEM COMING!!! THERE CAN ONLY BE ONE!
Thank you for the thorough test! I can confirm & testify that I'm satisfied with the Koch GS. I bought it before watching this, based on recommendation from really good shop, and all I can say it's indeed 5 star. I spilled a bit of it on the garage floor last week by accident, and its still foaming when i clean the floor, i need water only since then :)
yer its top draw mate.
I wish I had 1 hour to watch this video, that's asking bit much from your viewers but I appreciate your effort.
Great job, Jon! Massive respect for all the work you put in to give these results! I find Optimum No Rinse to be an effective and cheap light cleaner for all interior surfaces, especially glass. Just clean with wet microfiber towel and wipe dry.
Interesting. My money and prediction is with BH - I bought BH products on your recommendations and multiple test results. I use surfex HD for things around the garage and the house in varying concentrates. Most versatile thing I've ever used. Briliant skirting board cleaner!
The one and only channel thats it top of the bill in testing products. Thanks allot for these vids, we see the time and effort that you put in these vids.
Crazy the effort you put into your tests. Your like the British project farm
Thanks for taking the time to do this John :-). I've been using Surfex HD for over 15 years and it never lets me down. A superb product and a worthy winner.
What a mega review, must have taken you a very long time. I'm not surprised by the winner Bilt Hamber seem to make some really good products. Thanks for the video, look forward to the next one.
As an all rounder, BH is unbeatable.
As a straight-up degreaser, Screwfix's No Nonsense Degreaser is superb for about £10. Use it for the dirtiest bits of the engine bay and my bicycle drivetrain. Way more powerful than BH, but it's use case scenario is much more limited.
Sorry Jon I got carried away with the vid, thanks for the Forensic account of these products, you really do live up to the name of the channel… thank you
A superb, non-biased deep dive into APCs. I've used several of these and agree with the findings. Valet Pro is a decent APC but limited in its application and strength. Meguiars is okay, but I've experienced the staining some people have had with it, and the stains have been permanent in some cases. Bilt Hamber is the absolute king, and I use it at various dilutions for just about everything. Thanks so much for the immense time and effort that's gone into this analysis.
non biased? eh Surfex was in the test remember!!
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@@viewfield5 John uses everything.
Thanks for taking the time to test all these John
detailing at the best. have no words. you rock!
Jon, i use autofoam diluted heavily for an apc works great!
All your comparison vids are just insanely good.
So much work went into this video. Cheers John. Glad my Trusty BH S HD won!
I find APC so so cheap. And then you dilute upto 100/200 times . It’s so cheap one not to worry about . I’m happy Surfex BH. Thanks videos on APC. Would never have heard of BH before watching your videos
Huge effort gone into this
Love green star for exterior and pol star for interior
I’ve been considering diluting D101 to 15:1 and possibly even 20:1 for interiors. 10:1 is a bit overkill and took off a very light top layer of paint/dye on an armrest once.
Yer 1 to2 % in interiors typically
Great shoot out. Surfex HD is amazing. Whenever you highly rate a product on this channel the price goes up.
Thanks John, all your hard work is appreciated.
John this is amazing work hats off to you this is why your no.1 for all things detailing
Thank you Jon, such a detailed and thorough test, much better than anyone else on YT.
No surprised BH won, all of their products are very good if not the absolute best, at the same time being amazingly cheap.
Hi John.
Maybe the question isn’t related to the video but I still think it’s a interesting question that I’ve been tormenting myself with while on holidays. I find myself wanting to clean the car while away but really don’t have access to proper equipment. No power washer no snow foam
Just a hose and a bucket.
A video or even a reply on the matter would be interesting.
Maybe I haven’t asked the question properly but I hope you get what I mean.
Cheers John from a sunny Wexford in the Republic of Ireland ✌️
Easy. ONR (or similarly equivalent rinseless wash).
Look into rinseless wash products, my d00d
@@SE43 interesting I watched the video on ONR yesterday. I thought it was great but unfortunately it’s not available in Ireland and would have to buy it on Amazon. At least I know for next year
@@NipponStiqqyPaint interesting I watched the video on ONR yesterday. I thought it was great but unfortunately it’s not available in Ireland and would have to buy it on Amazon. At least I know for next year
yer I think and ONR or mackees wash is the way to go mate.
The problem with your scoring is, if I just use tap water and sell it cheap, make safe on leather/metal/plastic then it's going to gain a lot of marks. CarChem is basically useless, might as well be tap water, but it scored more marks than a product that IS good at cleaning.
That was hard work for that amount of products to be tested and evaluated. Its a shame some of those others have missed out of a lot of points by labeling failures. I think Jon should have made people aware on this channel that please don't use Carpro MulitX on your hair or scalp. 🤭
Just started watching, has to be Surfex surely?
yes if Bilt Hamber is in the test, it will win, no matter how good the other brands are,
Bill Hamber really hard to beat on price and quality/results
Well that is a surprise . AG Infinite did not work for me in any kind of dilution I ended up spraying it neat on my tyres just to get rid of it .
Comprehensive tests with some surprising results. Good to know mild products as well as tough cleaning ability. I’ve been using Green Star and more recently Surfex HD based on your previous reviews. Both seem good, I do like Green Star on wheels as I can see the dirt flow off.
Hi Jon I like Purple power, Extra Tough and 3D interior cleaner. Now the first two are APC’s👍
Well-done that man! Fantastic tests, brilliantly put together and narrated. Nice to see you doing the long form stuff dude, it's what you are brilliant at.
Wow !!!!! very thorough test involving true science methods. well done!
In the States, I use 'Super Clean" degreaser or APC. It cost $22.00 (US) for 2.5 gallons (320 oz) or 19 liters. It is available at most US retailers, no need to order online. It can be diluted 4:1 for tires, engines or other exterior surfaces. And 10:1 for interiors, plus has many uses around the house. You get this Most Bang for the Buck, for this product. Jon, thanks for your time & effort on producing these videos.
I think super clean may not rank well in this test as it's quite harsh.
It's SDS says it has a pH of 12.5-13.8, and causes skin, eye, and inhalation irritation.
And Super Clean says do not use on: aluminum, prolonged contact w/ paint, prolonged contact w/ glass.
@@themikeroberts Michael thanks for your comment. I am a car enthusiast a non professional, I like to use products that are simple to use and may have multiple functions. I use the KISS principle (keep it simple stupid) plus it is easily available at a retail store. I am NOT saying this product is superior to others, but works for me.
Just watched this. What an effort so it earned a comment to say thanks! Still some of the best comparisons on this site and help me choose products every time. Awesome effort.
Glad it was helpful thanks mate
Bro what would we do without Johnny boy ? ❤
Thats all i have used since i started detailing absolutely love it. Glad my decision was justified great content as usual
Great video. Well done!! Only negative was we knew the winner at the start of the final results due to camera angle. Overall though, great work👍🏻
👏👏👏 That's some work you put into that Jon. Thanks
Please add ADBL to your tests. Very cheap with good to great results!
Second this John. Apparently ABDL APC is very good.
Meguiars is great, I use it. Be very careful not to mix to strong as it will residue pretty bad. It will stain leather if to strong and will also stain porous plastic.
is it good if it can do that?
Incredible work went into this. Well done Jon, and thank YOU!
A massive amount of effort was put into this video!! All the same shortcomings as I found when shopping for an APC. The frustrating lack of what it's safe on, what it's not safe on and dilution ratio.
Price / ratio is more important than price per litre.
Noticed the same thing with Meguiars All Purpose Cleaner on white leather seats. It makes leather much more white even when dilutet 1 to 10. Allso if it spills to leather and sits there for a while it leave those white spots bit more like bleach. Dont know how safe it is to leather after all. Thanks for very informative video!
yes, and overspray is prone to leaving more residue. Its very foamy product, but it also contains things like potassium hydroxide and sodium silicates (IIRC) which are powerfull cleaners due to a mild (desirable) corrosive effect. But these can leave white residue if not properly rinsed. I used to love Megs APC still like it for fabrics funny enough. But the UK and Germany in my opinion have better engineered surfactant blends with a strong concentration of safer surfactant choices that are typically more expensive. American laws on chemicals are more relaxed than the UK and Germany (EU). Thats why I sometimes say American Soaps are not great compared to European or UK. Its usually down to the additional of powerfull cheap caustic additives (ok for pro use not so great for continual use on cars by guys at home)
@@ForensicDetailing Thanks for information, that explains alot. I will allso continue to use Megs occasionally for hard stains in fabrics because of it's great cleaning potential, but goint to replace it for more delicated surfaces.
You must try Bio-circle CB 100, that shit is amazing, non toxic, non flammable, removes grease and any dirt with ease. Bought it in a local hardware store in Sweden for about 23$ 0.5 liter. Atleast try 1 bottle, you won't be dissapointed.
You got the best channel for detailing!!!
No advertising or deception which is hard to find in youtube. Keep going!
Can you do a water etch testing on ceramic coatings and sprays please? I don't think anyone has ever done that before
Hard to di but I will have a think m8
I used Bilt inside the car but I didn’t like how it’s working, maybe my rate dilutions isn’t ok. The car was very dirty. I consider the nextzett w99 more efficient.
Wow. That was a lot of work. Great job Jon!
Fantastic analytical approach and really appreciate the time spent and thoroughness - well done John
John, what's your take on using household APCs? I would love to see you test a supermarket household APC against the winner of this.
not massivly into using household stuff mate.
Brilliant test Jon bloody well done on this review top man. Such a huge effort in making this video.
Well done on the test 👍 very thorough.
Best APC I've used it's a trade product and it's from Auto Rae Chem and it's A10-1 and you can use that on anything and it's a very good cleaner on tyres, interior, upholstery and leather. Can also use it as a wheel cleaner & Pre wash. Really good stuff £58 for 25L 👍 I like products that do the job first time of asking, to save time. And A10-1 ✔️ the boxes
An hour! that's my Sunday morning sorted! Cheers
Great test. I understand your reasoning for using the recommended dilutions for ranking purposes, but it seems like that just encourages manufacturers to list unrealistic ratios. Plus who actually follows directions for apc's😉
Good work as usual, keep it up, you help us a lot from Belgium 👍👍👍👍
Awesome showdown. Which would you advise between Verso, Multistar and Valet Pro as a regular use pleasant smelling apc? I only miss out the mighty Surfex as I've heard it doesn't smell too great?
I remember m8. But yer surfex has no scent.
Based on this exhausting test I'll be buying Surfex over Optimum Power Clean and that's a product I've been using EXCLUSIVELY for the past 12 yrs bring an active member of AutoGeek❗️
i wanted to put power clean in but it was totally unavailable in the UK for some reason I think its available again now.
@@ForensicDetailing I remember you mentioning that before but based on my experience with Auto-foam, Touchless & AutoWash I can't see being disappointed 💯
I ordered a gallon through Ebay and it's from the single distributor of Bilt-Hamber products in the U.S A....The Clean Garage😎
Incredible amount of work gone into these tests putting a huge selection of products , top work 👏🏻👏🏻
We need your thoughts on Labocosmetica next ;)
Thanks so much. Love the whole Vs videos....... appreciate your time and effort.
would also be great to see what you think of 'dawn dish soap' as alot of people are using this as an APC
#3 it is. I can't find #1 or #2 in the US in the smaller bottle. The larger one is more than I would use in 100 years.
1st of Jon, Really like how you have got better and better over the years, your videos are mind blowing now, pure facts etc , Really like this APC video, i know exactly what to buy next ! Keep up the good work. I've got Demon Clean, but it works out £25 for 5 litre!, wont be buying that again (as you cant dilute it)
is Super Clean not available in the UK? in the US, its among the most widely available and economical degreasers on the market. Also, Simple Green APC is pretty common as well.
As you know, it is the most reasonable priced APC that I'm aware of. I buy 2.5 gallons for about $22. Has multi-uses, I even use it around the house.
Sounds good for USA guys
@@ForensicDetailing whenever you want atomic start a Forensic Detailing USA Channel Jon, let me know. It'll most likely end up being like Top Gear USA, maybe half as good as the Brit version, but I'm game
First class, in depth review. 👏
Autosmart , bilthamber and koch chemie make amazing products. trade rated gimmick free branding and packaging.
Tack! Super awesome video as usual. How many points for the top 3?
Thank you so much for this, guys that do these payed thank you things have heart of pure gold. means a lot to me.
Wow... That must have taken a while. Thanks mate!
Loving your videos, I've learnt a lot.. have you done any videos on soft top convertible care and protect products?? Been looking through your videos and not found one yet??
I recently picked up some products from slims and the koch was on offer so i grabbed a bottle, mixed it at 1/2 a ltr in to a 5ltr can & topped up with water.
I cant fault it yes not the best degreaser at that concentration but on door shuts leather very pleased with it though some discolouration of black plastic seat backs if left on for a minute 🤦♂️ ( phone call ) removed with a trim sheen product,
Overall though pretty decent results
Jon is autobrite direct in this test?
Bit dissapointed in Green Star, always worked well for me, concentration matters tho.
I knew the bilt hamber would get into the top 3
Amazing review, I have never seen something so detailed. Just one question: what is the dilution ratio for the PH test?
if your going to measure PH its best to do it neat. PH is meaningless though people do not understand it. PH12 could be milder and less caustic than PH7 for example. Its more about chemical function. PH at best is a finger in the wind.
Thanks, my question was because for example the PH of Koch Chemie GS is advertiesed as 12.5 and you measured it 10, so I guess it was diluted.
Great test !! If you take the price out of the equation, which one comes on top?
How about a price comparison for the amount of product needed to achieve the same results? Not just APC but other stuff. How good is a cheap cost product if you need twice as much concentration to get as good a result as a product that "seems" slightly more expensive?
can get a bit complicated but if you give a set of marks for highest usable concentrations you sort of are factoring that in.
Wish you could have added Optimum Power Clean, amazing APC
Thanks Jon, that was a cracking test!
thank you so much roger appreciate it