So my education guess is that the ball was spinning bc of the way it was shot and bc it was shot side arm the ball was spinning sideways and when it hit the turf the sudden deceleration caused the rotational energy to "take over" and changed the direction of the shot.
If you have ever played on concrete, when you throw the ball at the ground with spin on it, the ball will curve backwards. Or played wall ball on bricks, the spin of the ball will make it hit the ground after hitting the wall. Since the lacrosse ball is super gripy the spin you can put on the ball is insane. So when you hit something hard or hard turf, the spin on the ball will bite into the ground and make the ball Change direction.
@@Profortnitegamerboyhehe ball spins, ball bites into the ground because said spin. The ball can't cut the ground so it kickbacks and changes direction. It's like throwing a angle grinder at concrete
It is the rotational velocity the ball exhibits when it exits the lacrosse stick. This is known as "English" in sports like billiards. The rotational velocity is what is directly responsible for the ball curving back to the right so it goes in the goal. It is a reaction of the energy transferring from the ball to the grass (the resultant vector when you add up all of the force vectors) skewing the trajectory of the ball
That kind of control is amazing. As he is finishing the throw, just as the ball is about to leave the stick, he changes the direction the head of the stick is traveling so it whips from left to right across his body. As the head of the stick drags across the top surface of the departing ball it imparts a right, clockwise spin to the ball. The ball, it’s spin and movement along the line of the shot are an “isolated system” for all intents and purposes. Angular momentum and linear momentum together are a total vector quantity, (I hope I am saying it correctly) which means it’s the SUM of the energy of movement and the direction of that movement in the different parts of that isolated system. Here it would be rotation (spin) and movement along the line of the shot. In a completely closed (artificial or theoretical) system the SUM of the vector quantity always remains the same. What that means in practical terms is that if you change the direction or energy of movement of one part of the system, the other parts of the system change so that the SUM always remains the same - or as close to equal as constraints of reality will allow. As people point out the rubber of the ball has a high friction coefficient, therefore the ball grips the surface slowing the spin when it hits the turf. The system of the ball and it’s vector sum (angular momentum) tries to remain constant, or equal, so the decrease of energy in spin is translated into an increase of energy acting on the path of the ball to change the trajectory as the ball leaves the surface. Everything is trying to balance out. The classic example is a guy sitting on a barstool that can rotate while holding a spinning bicycle wheel, he tilts the wheel which slows its spin a bit as the stool begins to turn. Lots of videos of this around, I would imagine. It seems to be a physics teacher favorite. Did that come out as garbled as I think it did? I hope not. Anyway, angular momentum is a great concept and explains a lot of interesting phenomena. If I am right about it, you can see a curve in the final flight of the ball. As it’s spin in flight slows further following the impact with the turf, it dumps energy from spin into a change in trajectory. It’s like a curve ball from a talented pitcher. Pretty damn cool.
The great thing about bouncers off turf, they occasionally can be wildly un-predictable. Outside of just enjoying that sweetness, is wager we are witnessing a bit of an optical illusion with the camera angle (slightly above head and over the shoulder).
I scored this exact same shot in a game once, it was with my left hand so it was an awkward shot and sort if sidearm and it looked like it was going straight out but then It bounced and went far pipe top corner
So since I’m a goalie, I’ve seen this happen a few times. Once it bounced on my left and scored on my right. My best guess is that the way Reeves released it put awkward spin on the ball, like when you kick a soccer ball and put spin on it. That made it so when it hit the ground, the spin changed the direction of the ball. To try this, when you shoot you need to change the direction of the head right as the ball is coming out of your stick.
This is something that I have also stumbled upon in my own gameplay(I have a background in bowling).Some of the hand movements to curve a bowling ball are actually very translatable to shooting a lacrosse. For example you can apply Top and side spin to a lacrosse ball,this spin will make the ball bounce less predictable.
Not to sound egotistical but that’s just a curved bounce shot we do it all the time on my club team for fun, never really think to use it in game but I was taught it a while ago by an old coach of mine. But in game in the PLL is absolutely insane. 👍🏻
Many players sticks have some degree of hold (whip), especially with a nice grippy ball), there is significant spin on the ball when it leaves the head. Perhaps the change in angular momentum upon hitting the turf facilitates the change in vector forces that propel the ball in the different direction....
It’s actually pretty easy I’ve been teaching the spin shot for over 20 years. It can be used in many ways It helps if you have a tennis background Top spin from 3/4 release Side spin from overhand release You just snap your wrist on release For practice. Put your right foot even with GLE And your left foot behind (shooting right) Looking at the two pipes as one Release the ball from your ear Snap your wrist to the left Palm should be facing upfield Aim2-3-4 inches Above goal line Ball will spin up to the upper right corner if done right
The curve was unintentional he was definitely aiming off stick low but the sidearm combined with the spin on the turf which grips the ball gave him a crazy goal, really hard for any goalie to save
I saw this game and i was astounded when that shot went and also thank u for liking my idea for the highlights and goals by in your men’s lacrosse league
This is just a simple use of the full potential of your Crosse. As you throw the ball and can feel it releasing you just have to rotate your lacrosse stick in the direction you want the ball to go and then as the ball releases and hits the ground there's enough spin to change the direction of the ball as we see in this instance.
Very cool! How about a video for all us old goalies showing some impossible saves? It would go a long way in relieving some of the arthritis and aches and pains all you showboaters inflicted on us!!!! Love the channel brother! ✌️
It’s in the way you roll your wrists when you shoot, my high school coach had us do this every practice from different spots just so we could tear goalies apart
I believe I remember a clip from last season when rabil and panell were practicing putting spin on their shots. These pll guys are so high level it wouldn’t be that surprising if reeves did it on purpose
As someone who plays on this rubber crumb surface.. this is something that you can play for. same principle as bowling in cricket. As you shoot the ball is spinning. the rubber ball and the rubber surface cause an excessive amount of grip and change in direction. have witnessed a bouncer hot at least a foot wide and still hit the twine.
Simple physics. Ball has right To left spin when it hits the ground. Equal, opposite reaction, ball changes direction of spin AND catches inside of upright.
The crazy thing is last Thursday night during practice I took a left hand shot shooting for bottom left and The shot bounced and curved into bottom right and the goalie went down to stop the bottom left bouncer it was in the complete other side of the goal and that weekend same thing happens in the pll
Easy to do.you use the side of the stick by twisting the stick with bottom hand as ball leaves the head…depending on wether its left or right you can spin the ball either way.. the harder you get the ball to go off the side wall the more spin you get..Also you can put top spin on witch gets the ball to not bounce but run flat after the shot this is more difficult to do as it has to be from an underarm shot. ;
im a goalie ive been their and have had a thousand of these scored on me. the goalie steps a second to late so when i was bouncing it tipped hit pinkie toe and went in. also it probably broke his toe too because I've had that happen as well. lol
This is my garbage explanation here we go. So basically the ball had a lot of spin on it (obviously) and it was a bounce shot. Because the ball is has so much rotational inertia and hits the ground hard, it causes the amount of friction the the ball experiences to be quite high, which causes the ball to change direction. It’s like 2am and I haven’t thought about physics in months so I could be horribly wrong, but that’s my speed-run explanation
Knew a guy in HS that could legitimately curve passes without the ball hitting anything. I don't think he knew where it was going he'd just do it for fun. More or less to see people's reactions to a pass that fucking moved like it had a mind of its' own.
Hello, I am a 7th grade lacrosse player and I play attack. So a game last Thursday went weird when I ripped a full fielder ok I want to know why I wasn’t called offsides
pretty simple, he put english on it by flipping his wrist. i've been doing it since the late '80s. its not hard once you get the feel for it. some heads do it better than others.
It's the spin of the ball when it came off of the shooters. Him shooting it side arm made the ball spin in the direction of the goal so when it bounced, it bounced right into the goal. If he shot this overhand, this wouldn't have happened.
Correct, with a small caveat. Overhand shot, with a twist of the stick at the right time, can influence the spin of the ball somewhat. Basically, as you release the ball, and twist so that the pocket is to one side or the other, the ball will have a slight rotation to that side. Play with it a bit. It's not a lot, but could be the edge at some point.
@@ericwerner3691 Only problem with this is it comes out funny and it's hard to be accurate with it. I've tried it before with mixed results. I wouldn't recommended throwing an over pass with it though. Attempting to through a curved overhand over pass with a D pole doesn't turn out well.
@@darthjarjarsstopmotions5642 very true. At best, you can mess with the goalie a bit during warm ups, but in a game? There's enough other stuff going on.
Curved bounce shots arent anything new. I used to go to a camp where they'd teach kids how to release the ball with some spin so it would do that... like 18 years ago. And if you follow Lars Keil, he has a video where he shoots, from a distance mind you, from behind gle, and curves it into the net, no bounce. Legit stuff!
So my education guess is that the ball was spinning bc of the way it was shot and bc it was shot side arm the ball was spinning sideways and when it hit the turf the sudden deceleration caused the rotational energy to "take over" and changed the direction of the shot.
Give this man a nobel prize in physics already
@@LaxWeekly 😳😅
..... I speak English...
Mechanical engineer here, and I agree. Was going to say the same thing.
I was thinking about that
If you have ever played on concrete, when you throw the ball at the ground with spin on it, the ball will curve backwards. Or played wall ball on bricks, the spin of the ball will make it hit the ground after hitting the wall. Since the lacrosse ball is super gripy the spin you can put on the ball is insane. So when you hit something hard or hard turf, the spin on the ball will bite into the ground and make the ball Change direction.
Can u speak english please
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@@Profortnitegamerboyhehe ball spins, ball bites into the ground because said spin. The ball can't cut the ground so it kickbacks and changes direction. It's like throwing a angle grinder at concrete
Yep. He's right.
It is the rotational velocity the ball exhibits when it exits the lacrosse stick. This is known as "English" in sports like billiards. The rotational velocity is what is directly responsible for the ball curving back to the right so it goes in the goal. It is a reaction of the energy transferring from the ball to the grass (the resultant vector when you add up all of the force vectors) skewing the trajectory of the ball
That kind of control is amazing. As he is finishing the throw, just as the ball is about to leave the stick, he changes the direction the head of the stick is traveling so it whips from left to right across his body. As the head of the stick drags across the top surface of the departing ball it imparts a right, clockwise spin to the ball. The ball, it’s spin and movement along the line of the shot are an “isolated system” for all intents and purposes. Angular momentum and linear momentum together are a total vector quantity, (I hope I am saying it correctly) which means it’s the SUM of the energy of movement and the direction of that movement in the different parts of that isolated system. Here it would be rotation (spin) and movement along the line of the shot. In a completely closed (artificial or theoretical) system the SUM of the vector quantity always remains the same. What that means in practical terms is that if you change the direction or energy of movement of one part of the system, the other parts of the system change so that the SUM always remains the same - or as close to equal as constraints of reality will allow. As people point out the rubber of the ball has a high friction coefficient, therefore the ball grips the surface slowing the spin when it hits the turf. The system of the ball and it’s vector sum (angular momentum) tries to remain constant, or equal, so the decrease of energy in spin is translated into an increase of energy acting on the path of the ball to change the trajectory as the ball leaves the surface. Everything is trying to balance out.
The classic example is a guy sitting on a barstool that can rotate while holding a spinning bicycle wheel, he tilts the wheel which slows its spin a bit as the stool begins to turn. Lots of videos of this around, I would imagine. It seems to be a physics teacher favorite.
Did that come out as garbled as I think it did? I hope not. Anyway, angular momentum is a great concept and explains a lot of interesting phenomena.
If I am right about it, you can see a curve in the final flight of the ball. As it’s spin in flight slows further following the impact with the turf, it dumps energy from spin into a change in trajectory. It’s like a curve ball from a talented pitcher. Pretty damn cool.
That was so cool
The great thing about bouncers off turf, they occasionally can be wildly un-predictable.
Outside of just enjoying that sweetness, is wager we are witnessing a bit of an optical illusion with the camera angle (slightly above head and over the shoulder).
As a goalie it’s not a great thing
I scored this exact same shot in a game once, it was with my left hand so it was an awkward shot and sort if sidearm and it looked like it was going straight out but then It bounced and went far pipe top corner
Every tennis player: "Uh, we do that kind of thing all the time."
We do
So since I’m a goalie, I’ve seen this happen a few times. Once it bounced on my left and scored on my right. My best guess is that the way Reeves released it put awkward spin on the ball, like when you kick a soccer ball and put spin on it. That made it so when it hit the ground, the spin changed the direction of the ball. To try this, when you shoot you need to change the direction of the head right as the ball is coming out of your stick.
Ben Reeves saw the movie "Wanted" and figured out he can throw a curving lacrosse ball too!
This is something that I have also stumbled upon in my own gameplay(I have a background in bowling).Some of the hand movements to curve a bowling ball are actually very translatable to shooting a lacrosse.
For example you can apply Top and side spin to a lacrosse ball,this spin will make the ball bounce less predictable.
The shot is a wrist roll, other people might call it something different. I use it to warm my goalies up all the time (not to this level though).
Not to sound egotistical but that’s just a curved bounce shot we do it all the time on my club team for fun, never really think to use it in game but I was taught it a while ago by an old coach of mine. But in game in the PLL is absolutely insane. 👍🏻
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Many players sticks have some degree of hold (whip), especially with a nice grippy ball), there is significant spin on the ball when it leaves the head. Perhaps the change in angular momentum upon hitting the turf facilitates the change in vector forces that propel the ball in the different direction....
It’s actually pretty easy
I’ve been teaching the spin shot for over 20 years.
It can be used in many ways
It helps if you have a tennis background
Top spin from 3/4 release
Side spin from overhand release
You just snap your wrist on release
For practice. Put your right foot even with GLE
And your left foot behind (shooting right)
Looking at the two pipes as one
Release the ball from your ear
Snap your wrist to the left
Palm should be facing upfield
Aim2-3-4 inches Above goal line
Ball will spin up to the upper right corner if done right
Nice to see some recognition for my boy Benny reeves
The curve was unintentional he was definitely aiming off stick low but the sidearm combined with the spin on the turf which grips the ball gave him a crazy goal, really hard for any goalie to save
I saw this game and i was astounded when that shot went and also thank u for liking my idea for the highlights and goals by in your men’s lacrosse league
This is just a simple use of the full potential of your Crosse. As you throw the ball and can feel it releasing you just have to rotate your lacrosse stick in the direction you want the ball to go and then as the ball releases and hits the ground there's enough spin to change the direction of the ball as we see in this instance.
The way it was spinning when it hit the ground
yooo!!! this broke the laws of physics
great video lax wkly
Very cool! How about a video for all us old goalies showing some impossible saves? It would go a long way in relieving some of the arthritis and aches and pains all you showboaters inflicted on us!!!! Love the channel brother! ✌️
Me seeing the shot: what is jake talking about? Me seeing it in slow mo: 😳
It’s in the way you roll your wrists when you shoot, my high school coach had us do this every practice from different spots just so we could tear goalies apart
Brah, wicked spin.
I believe I remember a clip from last season when rabil and panell were practicing putting spin on their shots. These pll guys are so high level it wouldn’t be that surprising if reeves did it on purpose
As someone who plays on this rubber crumb surface.. this is something that you can play for. same principle as bowling in cricket. As you shoot the ball is spinning. the rubber ball and the rubber surface cause an excessive amount of grip and change in direction. have witnessed a bouncer hot at least a foot wide and still hit the twine.
Simple physics. Ball has right To left spin when it hits the ground. Equal, opposite reaction, ball changes direction of spin AND catches inside of upright.
there must have been a really strong bug on the floor that caught it and threw it into the goal for him i guess
The crazy thing is last Thursday night during practice I took a left hand shot shooting for bottom left and The shot bounced and curved into bottom right and the goalie went down to stop the bottom left bouncer it was in the complete other side of the goal and that weekend same thing happens in the pll
Easy to do.you use the side of the stick by twisting the stick with bottom hand as ball leaves the head…depending on wether its left or right you can spin the ball either way.. the harder you get the ball to go off the side wall the more spin you get..Also you can put top spin on witch gets the ball to not bounce but run flat after the shot this is more difficult to do as it has to be from an underarm shot. ;
There must have been something hard and at an angle on the ground that it bounced off of
If you twist year stick just as you release and time it right then ball will curve on bouncers
I love you vids so much
Top spin. We learned by by playing lax tennis on hardcourts in Highschool
Spin on the ball will do this, I use to shoot with a spin on bounce shots all the time to throw off the goalie.
Nice pfp!i love the content
It all matters because of the bounce😮😮😮
Yeah this was insanely satisfy
hope ur having a good day sir
I actually know how to do this you have to twist your bottom hand while you’re about to shoot and it will curve like that
the ball was spinning top side towards the goal when it bounced which caused it to bounce towards the goal
The way to curve your shot is to roll your hands when your shooting so the ball comes off the sidewall a little putting spin on it
im a goalie ive been their and have had a thousand of these scored on me. the goalie steps a second to late so when i was bouncing it tipped hit pinkie toe and went in. also it probably broke his toe too because I've had that happen as well. lol
There was spin on the ball
I like the logo change
thank you!
A deadbeat up spot at the tuff with some spin
It’s the spin on the ball
He’s just a wizard
He put english on it, with the old traditional pockets we used to do it all the time.
How?
He put spin on the ball
One word: wind
This is facts
Sticky humid turf
Spin off the shot because of the way the head of the stick was moving for the shot. Like a Golf Swing...
This is my garbage explanation here we go. So basically the ball had a lot of spin on it (obviously) and it was a bounce shot. Because the ball is has so much rotational inertia and hits the ground hard, it causes the amount of friction the the ball experiences to be quite high, which causes the ball to change direction. It’s like 2am and I haven’t thought about physics in months so I could be horribly wrong, but that’s my speed-run explanation
Knew a guy in HS that could legitimately curve passes without the ball hitting anything. I don't think he knew where it was going he'd just do it for fun. More or less to see people's reactions to a pass that fucking moved like it had a mind of its' own.
Thomson's three goals in 2 min
Hello, I am a 7th grade lacrosse player and I play attack. So a game last Thursday went weird when I ripped a full fielder ok I want to know why I wasn’t called offsides
#refsareblind2021
BEND IT LIKE REEVES
my guy dr ben just put some english on the ball with a lil wrist flick and when it hit post its trajectory was upward.
0 dislikes plz no one ruin it
Edit thanks @Lax weekly
Literally happens in soccer on a daily
My buddy can do this, it’s about how you flick the stick at the end of the shot
Topspin explains it.
He is a wizard
you're a wizard Ben!
I guess it has backspin
The ball was spinning in that direction therefore it hit the ground and then while it hit the ground it spun and then went in the goal
Those PLL balls also have grooves in them like a golf ball. Not smooth like college lax balls
Ben reeves used a technique where he turns his stick to have a spin bounce
pretty simple, he put english on it by flipping his wrist. i've been doing it since the late '80s. its not hard once you get the feel for it. some heads do it better than others.
This helps the algorithm, and the basic concept. throw a spinning bouncy ball at the floor. same thing is happening right there.
I think the same thing
EATHEN WALKER WAS ONE LF MY COACHES
I've scored many goals like that.
It’s because he put back spin on it.
Ball spin + turf = goal
It is called spin rate
It's the spin of the ball when it came off of the shooters. Him shooting it side arm made the ball spin in the direction of the goal so when it bounced, it bounced right into the goal. If he shot this overhand, this wouldn't have happened.
Correct, with a small caveat. Overhand shot, with a twist of the stick at the right time, can influence the spin of the ball somewhat. Basically, as you release the ball, and twist so that the pocket is to one side or the other, the ball will have a slight rotation to that side. Play with it a bit. It's not a lot, but could be the edge at some point.
@@ericwerner3691 Only problem with this is it comes out funny and it's hard to be accurate with it. I've tried it before with mixed results. I wouldn't recommended throwing an over pass with it though. Attempting to through a curved overhand over pass with a D pole doesn't turn out well.
@@darthjarjarsstopmotions5642 very true. At best, you can mess with the goalie a bit during warm ups, but in a game? There's enough other stuff going on.
Curved bounce shots arent anything new. I used to go to a camp where they'd teach kids how to release the ball with some spin so it would do that... like 18 years ago.
And if you follow Lars Keil, he has a video where he shoots, from a distance mind you, from behind gle, and curves it into the net, no bounce. Legit stuff!
Throw a lacrosse ball up with a spin and watch how it bounces that’s how it went in
ball spin...
i think it hit the goalies shoe
that is spin... been used since turf was invented.
40 seconds- 48 seconds in the video speaks to me
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Definitely subbing. Keep up the good work
um, spin?
Omg what the heck
i met ethan walker
Hey
i bet that goalie was pissed
your profile picture is elite
galloway is always pissed he always screams at the refs after he lets a goal in
New pfp?
Make lacrosse Great again
I know how he did that!! no joke
The ball hit the post and went in. It didn’t curve.
looks like an accidental twister.
Bruh what
?????
It’s easy you just put spin on it
Bruh is trying to be like Jomboy of lax