Back then during and post slavery you had to wear a bandanna so white women felt comfortable. They didn’t want to compete with a mix race woman. I hate bandanna because of that history
I'm a white passing mixed person, especially when I straighten my hair, I don't know the pain that our people faced back then, but it's always shocked me that people could leave their whole families and reinvent themselves as "white" People say they did it not to suffer but I'd rather suffer with family than suffer alone and surrounded by people I know hate me, if they know who I truly was.
That's noble of you. I don't know how many of would have done it. Back then, you got better opportunities, safety, and more security. Who'd give that up? I'm not saying it's right, it's just we have the luxury of being from today where it's not as bad as it was back then. IDK what I would have done. I'd like to hope that if I had been passing, I would have been male and had been able to use my color to help my family.
I'm white (unintentionally) passing. Two unambiguous siblings and a younger sibling who looks like my twin. I'm 60 now. No, I couldn't have left my family and passed - what a lonely life it must have been.
It’s easier to say this when societal standards have changed.. realistically, how many would confidently say this during a time like what’s depicted in the first film clip.
Literally nothing made sense at all in those times. The delusional white people from that era were so quick to label anyone outside of their race as a subhuman animal but wanted them to the point of rap!Ng them on a daily basis. Literally why would such a "civilized' race want to have relations with what they believed to be an "animal"?
I could hear the youthfulness in your voice and so proud that we still have young people putting harsh realities from black history out for all to learn. They outlawed teaching black history school because if you can keep a people ignorant of their past they have no idea when it's repeated in their future. This channel is truly a treasure! Don't stop!!!!!❤❤❤
Exactly that is so crazy to me that my son (10 years old) didn’t know who a lot of our great leaders were . There is definitely an agenda and yes its up to us to teach them❤️
One learns their countries history, which is dates and wars and new laws ect....so one learns a little about slavery and indented slavery. Do you even know who went to court to make slavery permanent for blacks? They were like the Irish in the beginning coming here to be worked for 7 to 9 years to earn freedom. But a greedy man from Africa wanted the colonies to go by African law which makes a slave permanent.
@joannlarson6386 The word you're looking for is indentured servitude, which is a far cry from chattel slavery. Indentured servants bartered their labor for a mutually agreed upon amount of time to mitigate debt owed to the debt holder; slaves were considered "livestock" and, therefore, wholly unable to be given any human considerations regarding their labor and autonomy from birth to their passing.
@@ineedavaykation4016 The version of indentured servitude that you described was in existence during the 18th century in America and was a means for some low income Europeans to afford to immigrate to America. By the revolutionary period, it had expanded to include an apprenticeship process for skilled laborers, who were clearly treated much better than slaves. But during the late 16th century and much of the 17th century, indentured servants were treated much the same as permanent slaves, sometimes even worse, because an indentured servant’s period of servitude was only 4-7 years and so the servant could be worked to death during that time. A permanent slave had to be fed and treated better by comparison so he wouldn’t die too early. Otherwise the slave owner would lose most of the value of his investment, since the price of permanent slaves was so much higher than that of indentured servants. The harsh treatment of indentured servants during this time was especially prevalent with European indentured servants in the West Indies before large numbers of African slaves had been brought over.
Honestly, if you can pass as white, you are likely mostly white, not half, so essentially you're simply identifying as what you actually are, for the most part. The actor here does not look white,(not does her friend in the clip).
Its sad and interestng that the 1 drop rule is not based on any scientific research or facts, but by the word of one man. It also doesn't apply to other races or ethnic groups.
@travelingjohn69 Yes, America land of mobility and opportunity for the brave and intelligent. Land were we elect people of all races and beliefs into political offices, were we enjoy all different media, public services, and have a tax system that although not perfect, still provides economic assistance for those who use it.
Poor Queen. She suffered from both sides. I have seen her real pictures, and the current family descendants of the Jackson family today actually acknowledge she is part of their family, and so are all her family. It's sad, her own real sister didn't know she was her sister. Great video keep them coming!!! I love Queen!! Everyone must remember, Queen was only 1/4th black. She was Irish, Native American (through her grandmother), and black. Her mother was Bi racial, Black, and Native American.
Hitler modeled his racial grading system on what he thought was wonderful about the American South. My grandparents were friends with some folks who avoided going to the chambers because they were able to pass as so called Aryans .
@@breezelocc69 ethnoreligions are a thing ie Jews and Muslims. They can convert to whatever but they’ll always be ethnically Jews and Muslim. There’s been wars on this
You have to be VERY light-skinned to successfully pass, although most Black people can usually tell, anyway. For reference, you have to be as light or lighter than Beyonce, Stephen Curry, Anna Cleveland and Jesse Williams.
My maternal grandpa could pass for white but he didn’t. My grandma, his wife was very dark skinned. They had 8 kids and none of them came out as light as my grandpa but a few came out as dark as my grandma. My sister is the only one who is light skinned with hazel and green eyes and no one treats her better because of it. This is the same with my dad’s grandpa he was half wife with 14 kids and they are all shades and no one was treated better than the other. I wish it was like that with most people nowadays because the color of your skin doesn’t make you better or prettier than anyone else
North and South, the miniseries. Madeline's father told her on his deathbed she was an Octoroon. Her mother had been His New Orleans mistress who died in childbirth giving birth to her. He took the baby to Charleston where people did not know him and told everyone he was a widower. Of course, when Madeline finds this out, she is married to the worst racist man who already abused her; he hates women too, so, she was afraid of him finding out.
I love the "North & South" miniseries. Madeline was one of my favorite characters. There is a 1949 movie called "Lost Boundaries", a Black & White film about an entire family that is White passing. It is based off of the real-life family of Dr. Albert C. Johnston. I'm glad that scene is in the video. There are also some television shows where passing is part of the plotline like the episode "Blood" from the tv series "Law & Order" where a man was passing for White (Season 8, episode 7), which was based on Anatole Broyard.
@@Vanipollonia1 l read the book "ONE DROP" by the daughter of Anatole Broyard, it must be very difficult to a person who pass to keep up the pretense, their mental health must have gone thru enormous stress and strain.
This to a lesser degree happens in the Hispanic families. I am a very light skinned Latina, and I have been never been treated as a Latina. My nick name was white sugar.
Same. My mom and brother also. Blue eyes, sandy blonde hair, fair skin with European features. The public pools in LA were segregated. My mom and grandmother had no problem getting in. Mexicans and blacks were only allowed to swim on Sundays. I've had so many people talk badly about Mexicans in front of me because I don't look it. Then they meet my family and neither do they. My dad is fair skin also and has European features. None of his siblings nor his parents have that Indian look. Though the skin tone varies. I do have a brother who came out dark. My mom's brother and sister were also dark.
@@princesaofhollywood2777 well Ann Coulter isn’t exactly an expert on the matter, her views are based on ignorance 😅 Anglo-Saxons Americans don’t really understand the complexity of race in the rest of the American continent. Besides Latino/Hispanic it’s an artificial concept created by the U.S. government not too long ago, it doesn’t even make sense. Someone from Spain is not white but a Portuguese is ‘white’ even though both are Europeans from the Iberian Peninsula. If someone is born from European ‘white’ immigrants parents in Latin America and has citizenship of that country automatically is classified as not ‘plain white’. According to the U.S. someone with double citizenship could theoretically ‘change’ races depending on what document you’re traveling with. I heard that in recent years forms and questionnaires have become more sophisticated, so it’s not enough to mark Latino/hispanic now yo have to specify Afro Latino, white Latino, indigenous Latino etc trust me it’s not an homogeneous population
My grandma was in born 1919 and “passed” on and off for at least 40 years before she had my mother. It was something shameful to her. She married into high yellow society. Light skin ppl had the own group. It didn’t last because WHITE ppl wouldn’t allow it and it was PREJUDICE against dark Blk ppl. I asked her to tell me her story at 9 and she begrudgingly told me stuff with pictures. She had a white dad and mixed mother who were never really together and was born out of wedlock. She would be sent to orphanages when her mother would act up or not follow family rules. Ended up in black orphanages where clearly she didn’t mix because of the 1 drop rule. She by for was 1 of the most interesting ppl I ever met.
I enjoyed your videos and have watched every one of the movie clips you included. Another "Passing Movie" to watch is "Pinky" with Ethel Waters, that was also very good and deals with this subject.
The sad part is it’s still happening the whites don’t accept them the blacks grudgely accept them but we know the difference between blacks and mixed folks.
I've just started watching, but had to pause. First scenes shown in this video remind me of The Feast of All Saints (available here on youtube). Totally disgusting/disturbing. I also see in the comments they're asking what the movies are + the discussion about working enslaved in the house... There's a gothic horror film from Argentina which shows similar scenes of abuse in the house, it's called "Los Inocentes" (directed by Mauricio Brunetti). "Besouro" is another film (Brazilian) which might be of interest. Violence is to expected since it is also a film about enslaved people. And their ways to rebel.
This is very true my gma used to hate going to school 🏫🎒 because the other children would call her a green eyed monster!! She wished her skin was darker. I think one of those films was called the imitation of life 🧬 she used to love that one!! 💯 🔥 💯.
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I'm Cherokee and Irish and my ancestors came together not for love but so their children could live in peace so I've been told by racist. I met a women who was obviously white white and I like to bleach my hair, not because I'm trying to be like anyone but because it's fun. She said hey your hair is the same color as mine and then she noticed my roots and said "oh..oops..I didn't know". Didn't know what? Whats worse is was she being racist or what? We are hated worse by fully white people than black people because our phenotype is white and we do pass an they say our ancestors did this on purpose. Why do people get so obsessed with how somone was born? They are making me obsessed with who I am on a race basis. I never thought about it but now I think of it more and more. She works with people just like me, does she make little comments that they don't catch? I know because I was threatened and my mom told me what the deal was. We're all Cherokee and Irish and even the black people in our area are black and Cherokee and Irish. People who are obsessed with race on a genetic level are rare in Georgia to the point shes the first I've seen, now go across the Alabama line and I could be unalived and have been threatened because they hate us so badly. She just messed me up is all. I guess black people have to deal with this crap all the time and play was it racism or they just miss spoke. What utter bullcrap. Why is this still a thing in 2024? Like she said in the video, the one drop rule. Except I have none of what they consider white, I know because they told me.
It’s crazy the way the separated us by skin color back then. It’s the reason we were here today. I am terribly sorry you had to deal with that growing up. 😞 hopefully one day, one generation, this will no longer be a thing….
African Americans have an average of about 25% European ancestry. That's the equivalent of one white grandparent. Much more likely, it's actually multiple white ancestors further generations back. If you mixed 100 African Americans with 100 Africans from West Africa where the slaves were taken from, you could pick out a large majority of the Americans just based on light skin color. Africans can see an American Black coming a mile away. Since skin pigment varies in mixed populations even within families. there would have been many very light skinned, straight haired children every generation. Some would have had children with other 'blacks' and had darker children then themselves, but many probably slipped into the white working class and disappeared as 'blacks.'
This has me crying at 6:30 in the morning. All the ignorant people wanting us to erase this while it makes up our whole identity, all the race traders wanting to only marry women of no color despite knowing the truth, so much slave identity.
Willie Lynch Letter has been proven false even by some Black scholars. It’s not written in the language of the time it claims to be from. There is more information in it from the Jim Crow Museum. Of course, the ideas there weren’t uncommon but it’s good to use are very real sources (primary and secondary sources) which are more and more available online.
"passing a means of survival" Our society is sick. It is sad that people don't see each other as humans deserving of respect, but rather base treatment on skin color. "It's their world we just living in it."
Honestly I am Indian and nothing to do with America but I cried looking at plight of queen and her mother .No one deserves this kind of life . I am myself a lower caste women in my country who at times due to education and a bit of due to looks can pass as higher caste due to being lighter skinned and slightly taller with high education . Infact at times I look of even higher caste than some high caste people . I have a privilege which I acknowledge which unfortunately my sister doesn’t due to her darker skin and shorter height . I can relate to queen in few things . My ex who I still love because I am stupid with all my heart had even commented that it’s a shame that u are lower caste than mine otherwise u are perfect for me later he hurts me and ditches me for a higher caste woman who fools him about her real complexion and turns out she is even darker than a lot of people and much older than him . Don’t get me wrong i have nothing against dark skin but India is immensely colourist and being fairer is matter of pride . I don’t support this thinking because I love my sister but we cannot ignore the colourist mindset unfortunately . I know it won’t change a thing but I am really sorry to all African American women out there affected by this plight. The British did take us as slaves as well and took us as indentured labours to various countries . I remember my grandmother narrated me that how areally beautiful 13 year old girl from her village caught eye of a British engineer who came to our native village to build roads and bridges and spoke native language fluently . He befriended her family and took a chance one day by visiting the field and raped her there . Since she was already married in childhood but hadn’t consummated her marriage yet her father and mother immediately sent her to her husbands village after knowing about what happened to her and kept it a secret . They advised her to consummate her marriage with her husband as soon as possible . Thankfully her husband was almost her age and was too innocent to understand much about sex or first time so his family didn’t suspect . She later gave birth to a boy who was very fair , hazel eyes with some green but still looked a lot like her. Hazel, grey, brown or green eyes can still be found among Indians so it wasn’t out of ordinary . My maternal. Grandma is pure Indian but has steel grey eyes but we all have dark brown . Because most of his features still looked Indian except he was lighter so it wasn’t suspected . It’s only when he grew up he looked biracial but by then almost everyone was too close and loved him a lot that it never occurred to them that what he was . His Indian father and grandfather died due to tuberculosis when he was in his 20s . Hardships made him marry in his late 30s and than he became a father of twins and surprisingly his children had almost light brown hair, white skin and green blue eyes which shocked the entire village. He trusted his wife a lot but was kind of surprised and it was than in his 40s his mother confessed him . He didn’t talk to his mom till 10 years but later he mended his relationship with her till her death. The family denies the story of rape but my grandmother knew as she was her friend . His children are older than my dad now but they just say their ancient family was from Kashmir or Himachal because many Kashmiri’s or Himachalis or punjabis or Sindhis have coloured eyes. They don’t wanna admit and that’s fine .
Wow that’s very interesting. Yes colorism has definitely done a number on communities of color and unfortunately I don’t think it’s calming down anytime soon 😔
Great commentary! I love how you showed that being a house slave /mulatto wasn't' anything better. Up until recently the black community was always talking about house slaves having it better. Being on call 24/7, g-raped every night. Everything Queen did in one day, made me tired just thinking about it! love your channel. Keep up the great work!
The casting for this movie was interesting… neither Halle or Raven have ever been white passing. I think Megan Markle or Rashida Jones are better examples and they wouldn’t have had to lighten their skin. I know… they were big names at this time. So I get it. Just a thought.
If I’m not mistaken, Raven purposely tans to be darker. I remember her in the Cosby show and she was a lil light bright ☺️❤️ but I understand what you’re saying. Meagan looks more white passing.
People are and always have been horrible to each other . From all sides and all colors, races , and creed . People should not make up stories about awful times in history . They were bad enough on their own . Alex Hailey should have been honest and told place his books under historical fiction . It causes hurtful feelings snd stirs the hatred pot .
White passing was absolutely a tool for survival in the really old days & for many it was like ripping themselves in ½ & throwing the ither ½ away forever😮💨.I identify as 🤍 but I've been told stories of having multiple Native Americans on both sides of my tree & my mom's father was even quite tan complected. 👀 how desperate so many people were to pass for 🤍 makes me wonder how much 💩 my Native American ancestors as well as potentially other non-white ancestors had to endure as they literally whitewashed away their own identities & cultures ultimately...I don't even know what tribes any of them were associated with because nobody talked about ANYTHING regarding their cultures of origin.We are essentially ROBBING ourselves in a way when we don't discuss what our ancestors cultures were or even what all our ancestry was💔.
as a lightskinned red haired freckled face brother i never faced discrimination from my darker skinned friends just the usual lightskinned jokes they say they rather i drive cause cops don’t pull me over lol
It's sad then and now that a person had to be anything more then who they truly are inside and out but I don't judge cuz unless a person walked in those shoes they really can't say if it was the rite or wrong thing to do but guess what racism happens in all or most nationalitys. Also yes it's true some masters raped there slave women but some masters and there female slaves had mutual relationships some even fell in love with each other and had mulati children not always by rape mulato or mulati maybe I misspelled it but u get the point and theses days. Almost everyone is mixed with one thing or another. I mixed with Hispanic and cacasion and I haven't always been fairly either. But god is good he except everyone
I can’t pass but if I had the choice I would though it was dangerous and you couldn’t speak to your black family. I love my melanin rich skin and I don’t the European Americans wanna step to this I can be rude.
The daughters of white women that are mixed like Alicia Keys, Halle Berry, Lisa Bonet, Mariah Carey etc. would be mixed-white women as they take on the line of their mom for their X that passes to both their female and male children. So they would differ from mixed-black women like Tamara and Tia Mowrey, Tracey Ellis Ross, etc. who come from a black mom.
@@bluetinsel7099 I know, but she identifies as black, just like Barack Obama who is famously known as the "first black president" of the USA, not the first mixed one.
I've seen this movie multiple times. The scene in the church makes me tear up every time. It breaks my heart. I'm descended from generations of biracial people on both sides. It hurts me to think that they were probably treated this way.
I have always been of the mindset that in order for someone to be "passing" they must have a substantial about of white ancestry. No full black people can pass for white unless they are albino, but I understand historically this was complicated by the one-drop rule.
Exactly. A lot of Black people who are not dark-skinned, are very delusional about this. You have to be VERY light-skinned to successfully pass, although most Black people can usually tell, anyway. For reference, you have to be as light or lighter than Beyonce, Stephen Curry, Anna Cleveland and Jesse Williams.
Yeah it is really obvious. Most often I spot in the offspring of white suburban families who've been white for generations. The whole family will look white. But there'll be one kid who has the features. Even being albino. Or as fair and blonde as can be. Most people are not super observant though and probably even the families themselves don't know. Though one tick tocker addressed viewers asking if she was black. She said no, she's white. Then she mentioned her grandfather being black. This woman was a quarter black and looked it. But she said "I'm white, obviously I'm white ". I do have a grandfather who was black and her ancestery results came back 30% black
I've always said this! In reality there is no such thing as white passing black people. You xan only ve a white passing mixed person and most of the so called white passing people are are quadroons and octoroons.
Albinos don’t really “pass.” They still have full, round facial features of a blk person, and Afro-textured hair. They look like persons of African heritage, with albanism.
In the 1940s, 155, 500 fair skinned African Americans slipped across the color line and passed for White. By 1950, census and fertility data revealed that 21% of Whites in the USA had Black ancestry within four generations. What I said is quote by Robert Stuckert , a Sociologist who works at Ohio State University. I saw his statement on the back of a book I own titled "J. Edgar Hoover: Passing for White " by Millie McGhee-Morris. Mrs. Morris is a Black American author from McComb, Mississippi. She is also the third cousin of famed/deceased FBI director, J. Edgar Hoover.
We can see examples of people who have one black grandparent but are essentially a white person all over. Drake’s son, Patrick Mahomes's children, Diana Ross’s grandchildren, Sophia Ritchie, and even Mariah Carey‘s children essentially look like any other white person. The social construct of race was made up before they really had any type of understanding of DNA and how it is passed down from parent to child. In many cases people weren’t really “passing”for white, they essentially became white over a couple of generations because you only get 50% of the DNA from both parents so the African DNA can either not be passed down or be passed down in such small amount that it’s barely there. I’m convinced that the belief that Black people have dominant genes was actually pushed so that we would essentially breed ourselves out of American society.
One day i asked my grandma what she knew about our history. Thats when she told me that her ancestors were typically house slaves and often had the masters kids. Which explained why we had a lighter skin tone. 😶😶 My great grandma used to joke about how i was so pretty id definitely be a house slave. Which is dark humor, i know. And my grandmother, her parents, and her parents before lived on the plantation where my fam was once enslaved. Crazy stuff.
I'm a white passing mixed person, and this history is so incredibly sad. My family during the pre-civil war era were all 'mulatto slaves', which meant that they were already mixed race and could basically only marry / be with other 'mulattos'. Our family goes from the palest pale to the darkest dark. The one drop rule is a stain on US history and it's so sad that people like me had to abandon their families for a (non guaranteed) life of priviledge.
You should read the book Black Slaveowners by Larry Koger. Parts of the book discuss free colored Slaveowners who passed for White, such as Gideon Gibson Sr, James Pendarvis, and Elijah Bass.
I never knew about this movie. These scenes make me emotional watching. My paternal grandparents have mixed European ancestry. However, my grandmother had a significant amount of European ancestry and her family identified as Creoles from Louisiana. Her grandmother was biracial and her half sister took ownership of her after the passing of their “master” father.
@@PrettynBetween the one 20th century scene is from " I Passed as White." I watched it here on UA-cam. A young woman passes to get a secretary job and she meets this man whose family is wealthy and falls for her thinking she is white. she did not intend to fall for him too, but she did.
Okay you used the 1959 version. The actress who portrayed the white passing girl was actually Mexican and white. in 1934 version it was really a light skin actress who played that role.
No she does not! The fact that Halle was a great actress in this movie is one thing. But she was too dark! I haven’t seen a mulatto actress yet that could pass as white, I’m sure they’re out there but not yet.
@PrettynBetween That is most definitely not Halle’s natural skin tone lmao. It’s widely known that she was covered in ghost-white makeup for this role. Her natural skin tone is caramel.
My great grandmother was a beautiful, bi-racial woman who most definitely could have passed , but her pride and love for her race stopped that. She was a proud woman of color. Hair straight, light eyes, alabaster skin, but a Black woman.
Same with some german guys in nazi germany who had a distant jewish ancestor but remained with the jews and didnt distance. Alltough not jewish , like in your example the white american person of small partly african ancestry
Exactly they love trying to humiliate Halle Berry in every movie to act like she needs to beg for peoples approval🙄 and they’re all Lightskin people should beg for approval. Most people don’t care about approval and I’m gonna get what I want regardless.🤣
I had native American grandparents that did this. I asked them why they chose to give up their name and their land, even after they had it secured. Because we see in the documents, and family history, that the native American people that I am related to consented to relinquishing their native status and they're right to the land, but in exchange, their children were able to go to school and work in the growing world around them, which they new was inevitable. It's sad, but I asked my great-grandfather why they chose to give up their name so easily. He said, they did it because it allowed them to have a place in the New world. But even then, that wasn't enough. They used baking soda and peroxide to lighten their skin and their hair. They made up a fake English last name. And they lied about any rumors of native ancestry, denying it. Keep in mind, this was in the early nineties in a very small town in West Virginia. The population is 500. If you are not a white christian, you will not be accepted. Yes, I am half white and half native american. I could "pass" as people say, and I often do. But people usually will detect something unusual in my face or my features, and look at me with a perplexed expression and give me the age-old question "hey... What race are you?" Sorry, I know that's an inappropriate question to be put so directly, but I hear it all the time. 😔 My white cousins think that I'm weird because I identify more with my native roots, but my native American family thinks that I'm "too white" because I am a bit on the pale side. So when I was with my cousin's growing up, I never really felt like I fit in. It sucked. And what's sad is, my white father's family was related to nearly everyone in that town, because they were original settlers, and my mother and I were still slightly shunned. And yes, they do call us the "N" word. The sleazy guys in town whistle and call me Pocahontas, which I can't stand. Or they put their hand to their face, and make the stereotypical "Indian" war cry. Yeah, sometimes I wear feathers and turquoise in my hair. Sue me. On the subject of passing, I always felt a dual edged sword about it. I was appreciative of my ancestor's sacrifice, but at the same time, I feel like they sold out too much. But that's just my opinion of my own family. Everyone has to do what they have to do to survive. It just makes me very sad, because to this day, my mother will be out at lunch with all of her blonde White friends, having $25.00 salads, and if you mentioned anything about her native American ancestry in front of her social clique, she will completely deny deny deny and she will be upset with you for doing it. It makes me sad that she is, for some reason, so ashamed of it. She bleaches her hair to the point that it breaks off. And she uses a full body makeup to hide her true complexion. She's not half white, but she does have green eyes, that's not terribly uncommon in native americans. Many native americans, particularly in the northeast, have green eyes. I don't know why she always felt the need to fit in with these skinny little white girls. Nothing against White women, it just hurts me to see someone disliking themselves to that point. But then at the same time, I'm upset with the world for making her feel that way. It's an odd confliction of emotions on the subject. Thank you for posting this video. It's extremely thought-provoking and could be used in a sociology class. ❤ My prayers go out to all of my biracial peers.
Wow that’s very interesting. I did not know that colonization also affected the natives as much. I knew other cultures experienced a form of self hate but I thought native Americans were very proud people. I am a quarter native and it seeps through my phenotype. I’m mixed passing and I also wear feathers In my hair because I am proud of that little percentage that I have. I also love the native culture very much. It’s really shocking to hear your mom felt that way. I’m glad you love to embrace that part of you❤️ it’s amazing how every culture of color deals with self hate. It’s going to take a long time for us to unravel these issues because it has been so engrained in us. The media doesn’t help either. I made a video on how W.S. (White Sup…) is the reason why we are in this position today as people of color and I feel like that video is being Shadow Ba… on purpose . I’m afraid to use certain words so I hope you knew what I was saying. I feel like any time I use certain words on here, my views slow down. But one day hopefully these issues will be behind us❤️ thank you for sharing your story 🙂
Hydrogen peroxide came after baking soda and that would be the 1800’s to 1900’s so that was a more recent invention, the natives you refer to may have been mixed or descendants of Europeans born in the Americas, they may be today what is known as mestizo which is European and Asian, they were not the original ones.
Apologies for the audio quality. I am working on a solution to the problem ❤
@@PrettynBetween it’s not noticeable in the context of the work.
As biracial women , this movie got in my feels 😢😢 I’m glad that I don’t live during those times.
What is the name of the movie?
In modern times no passes because light skin wants to be down with the blacks.
As a bi I completely agree.
@@jaradaniels9289Bi what?
Back then during and post slavery you had to wear a bandanna so white women felt comfortable. They didn’t want to compete with a mix race woman. I hate bandanna because of that history
I'm a white passing mixed person, especially when I straighten my hair, I don't know the pain that our people faced back then, but it's always shocked me that people could leave their whole families and reinvent themselves as "white" People say they did it not to suffer but I'd rather suffer with family than suffer alone and surrounded by people I know hate me, if they know who I truly was.
This‼️ I couldn’t have imagined what life was like back then. Their decisions literally had life or death consequences ❤️
Haha that's hilarious. I was mistreated for being native by the hands of dominant white and black people for being native in my own fkn country😂
That's noble of you. I don't know how many of would have done it. Back then, you got better opportunities, safety, and more security. Who'd give that up? I'm not saying it's right, it's just we have the luxury of being from today where it's not as bad as it was back then. IDK what I would have done. I'd like to hope that if I had been passing, I would have been male and had been able to use my color to help my family.
I'm white (unintentionally) passing. Two unambiguous siblings and a younger sibling who looks like my twin. I'm 60 now. No, I couldn't have left my family and passed - what a lonely life it must have been.
It’s easier to say this when societal standards have changed.. realistically, how many would confidently say this during a time like what’s depicted in the first film clip.
You’re enchanted by a woman’s beauty but shocked she’s mixed? Make it make sense.
That part ‼️
Literally nothing made sense at all in those times. The delusional white people from that era were so quick to label anyone outside of their race as a subhuman animal but wanted them to the point of rap!Ng them on a daily basis. Literally why would such a "civilized' race want to have relations with what they believed to be an "animal"?
He's a cracka. But good he reminded her of who she is.
And still very enchanted !!
Mixed children often produce some of the most beautiful people.
I could hear the youthfulness in your voice and so proud that we still have young people putting harsh realities from black history out for all to learn. They outlawed teaching black history school because if you can keep a people ignorant of their past they have no idea when it's repeated in their future. This channel is truly a treasure! Don't stop!!!!!❤❤❤
Exactly that is so crazy to me that my son (10 years old) didn’t know who a lot of our great leaders were . There is definitely an agenda and yes its up to us to teach them❤️
One learns their countries history, which is dates and wars and new laws ect....so one learns a little about slavery and indented slavery. Do you even know who went to court to make slavery permanent for blacks? They were like the Irish in the beginning coming here to be worked for 7 to 9 years to earn freedom. But a greedy man from Africa wanted the colonies to go by African law which makes a slave permanent.
@joannlarson6386 The word you're looking for is indentured servitude, which is a far cry from chattel slavery. Indentured servants bartered their labor for a mutually agreed upon amount of time to mitigate debt owed to the debt holder; slaves were considered "livestock" and, therefore, wholly unable to be given any human considerations regarding their labor and autonomy from birth to their passing.
@@ineedavaykation4016 The version of indentured servitude that you described was in existence during the 18th century in America and was a means for some low income Europeans to afford to immigrate to America. By the revolutionary period, it had expanded to include an apprenticeship process for skilled laborers, who were clearly treated much better than slaves.
But during the late 16th century and much of the 17th century, indentured servants were treated much the same as permanent slaves, sometimes even worse, because an indentured servant’s period of servitude was only 4-7 years and so the servant could be worked to death during that time. A permanent slave had to be fed and treated better by comparison so he wouldn’t die too early. Otherwise the slave owner would lose most of the value of his investment, since the price of permanent slaves was so much higher than that of indentured servants. The harsh treatment of indentured servants during this time was especially prevalent with European indentured servants in the West Indies before large numbers of African slaves had been brought over.
Sally Hastings was 3/4 White. Her mother was biracial. In the end her children pass but I think s🤐 one them still stay with in Black Community.
Someone who is three quarters white xan pass for white because tgey are majority white.
Honestly, if you can pass as white, you are likely mostly white, not half, so essentially you're simply identifying as what you actually are, for the most part.
The actor here does not look white,(not does her friend in the clip).
Only one stayed black the rest became white and had white descendants
It's also stated Sally was considered an attractive slave girl.
Its sad and interestng that the 1 drop rule is not based on any scientific research or facts, but by the word of one man. It also doesn't apply to other races or ethnic groups.
Yes it did apply to other groups, but we only hear about recent history.
It's an American thing. In Europe a mixed white passing person is considered white unless he/she doesn't identify as such
Welcome to America.
@@travelingjohn69 America could be a great country if only its people had evaluation criteria other than "race" and social status
@travelingjohn69 Yes, America land of mobility and opportunity for the brave and intelligent. Land were we elect people of all races and beliefs into political offices, were we enjoy all different media, public services, and have a tax system that although not perfect, still provides economic assistance for those who use it.
Poor Queen. She suffered from both sides. I have seen her real pictures, and the current family descendants of the Jackson family today actually acknowledge she is part of their family, and so are all her family. It's sad, her own real sister didn't know she was her sister. Great video keep them coming!!! I love Queen!! Everyone must remember, Queen was only 1/4th black. She was Irish, Native American (through her grandmother), and black. Her mother was Bi racial, Black, and Native American.
Yes this is true❤️ and I appreciate it ☺️❤️
So basically she was white
Passing could be the difference between life and death. During the inquisition jews and muslims passed for christians.
Yes this is true
Hitler modeled his racial grading system on what he thought was wonderful about the American South. My grandparents were friends with some folks who avoided going to the chambers because they were able to pass as so called Aryans .
I’m only here today coz some of my family passed (a lot didn’t)
Race vs religion passing 🤔 I don’t think that’s the point of this film 🎥 😑 very different scenario
@@breezelocc69 ethnoreligions are a thing ie Jews and Muslims. They can convert to whatever but they’ll always be ethnically Jews and Muslim. There’s been wars on this
You have to be VERY light-skinned to successfully pass, although most Black people can usually tell, anyway. For reference, you have to be as light or lighter than Beyonce, Stephen Curry, Anna Cleveland and Jesse Williams.
That's how my Niece is. Despite her hair, nose, and lips giving her away, she looks like she could've been born white
My maternal grandpa could pass for white but he didn’t. My grandma, his wife was very dark skinned. They had 8 kids and none of them came out as light as my grandpa but a few came out as dark as my grandma. My sister is the only one who is light skinned with hazel and green eyes and no one treats her better because of it. This is the same with my dad’s grandpa he was half wife with 14 kids and they are all shades and no one was treated better than the other. I wish it was like that with most people nowadays because the color of your skin doesn’t make you better or prettier than anyone else
Yes I wish and hope that one day we can get to a place where this is no longer a issue ❤️
The abuse female slaves endured even the mixed ones like me… it just makes me sick to my stomach, every time I think about it I wanna pass out.🧿
It’s very tragic and sad 😞
Grandma: "You a child of the plantation"
Queen: " you my people. You my family."
Grandmother turns back on Queen and walks off.
Just broke my heart 😔
The same way today but they’re still entitled ssa people just like them
Very upsetting to watch for me as a😔white woman I'm ashamed of what her grandmother did to her that's right her grandmother🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
Cry every time i watch this movie.thankyou❤
Of course! Definitely a classic ❤️
I read the book before I saw the movie. Both are powerful.
I just watched all three parts on the phone and found this. Love this sad .movie.
Me too
Alex Haley’s Queen was heartbreaking
North and South, the miniseries. Madeline's father told her on his deathbed she was an Octoroon. Her mother had been His New Orleans mistress who died in childbirth giving birth to her. He took the baby to Charleston where people did not know him and told everyone he was a widower. Of course, when Madeline finds this out, she is married to the worst racist man who already abused her; he hates women too, so, she was afraid of him finding out.
I love the "North & South" miniseries. Madeline was one of my favorite characters. There is a 1949 movie called "Lost Boundaries", a Black & White film about an entire family that is White passing. It is based off of the real-life family of Dr. Albert C. Johnston. I'm glad that scene is in the video. There are also some television shows where passing is part of the plotline like the episode "Blood" from the tv series "Law & Order" where a man was passing for White (Season 8, episode 7), which was based on Anatole Broyard.
Interesting 🤔
I remember North and South. RIPPatrick Swayze
@@Vanipollonia1 l read the book "ONE DROP" by the daughter of Anatole Broyard, it must be very difficult to a person who pass to keep up the pretense, their mental health must have gone thru enormous stress and strain.
I remember reading this as a younger teen. It was so brutal, but the truth often is.
Imitation of life needs to be added
The portrayal of the only black woman in that movie always disgusts me. The mammy character
The original version (1934) was used with Louise Beavers and Fredi Washington
They passed for an easier life i understand
And survival. Fear of death if ever found out.
People with black blood are still passing. Currently, there are more people publicly acknowledging because there may be some kind of benefits now.
Wille Lynch was a slave owner in Barbados who was a master of breaking a slave. Hence the term "Lynching"
This to a lesser degree happens in the Hispanic families. I am a very light skinned Latina, and I have been never been treated as a Latina. My nick name was white sugar.
There is no one look of Latina.
Hispanic/latino is not a race it’s an ethnicity
@@camilac7296but Hispanics are not White either. Although, they feel they are. 😂😂😂😂 Like Ann Coulter would say you ain't White.
Same. My mom and brother also. Blue eyes, sandy blonde hair, fair skin with European features. The public pools in LA were segregated. My mom and grandmother had no problem getting in. Mexicans and blacks were only allowed to swim on Sundays. I've had so many people talk badly about Mexicans in front of me because I don't look it. Then they meet my family and neither do they. My dad is fair skin also and has European features. None of his siblings nor his parents have that Indian look. Though the skin tone varies. I do have a brother who came out dark. My mom's brother and sister were also dark.
@@princesaofhollywood2777 well Ann Coulter isn’t exactly an expert on the matter, her views are based on ignorance 😅 Anglo-Saxons Americans don’t really understand the complexity of race in the rest of the American continent. Besides Latino/Hispanic it’s an artificial concept created by the U.S. government not too long ago, it doesn’t even make sense. Someone from Spain is not white but a Portuguese is ‘white’ even though both are Europeans from the Iberian Peninsula. If someone is born from European ‘white’ immigrants parents in Latin America and has citizenship of that country automatically is classified as not ‘plain white’. According to the U.S. someone with double citizenship could theoretically ‘change’ races depending on what document you’re traveling with. I heard that in recent years forms and questionnaires have become more sophisticated, so it’s not enough to mark Latino/hispanic now yo have to specify Afro Latino, white Latino, indigenous Latino etc trust me it’s not an homogeneous population
My grandma was in born 1919 and “passed” on and off for at least 40 years before she had my mother. It was something shameful to her. She married into high yellow society. Light skin ppl had the own group. It didn’t last because WHITE ppl wouldn’t allow it and it was PREJUDICE against dark Blk ppl. I asked her to tell me her story at 9 and she begrudgingly told me stuff with pictures. She had a white dad and mixed mother who were never really together and was born out of wedlock. She would be sent to orphanages when her mother would act up or not follow family rules. Ended up in black orphanages where clearly she didn’t mix because of the 1 drop rule. She by for was 1 of the most interesting ppl I ever met.
Wow very interesting ! ❤️❤️
I'm sorry vut your grandma is white not black.
Blue vein society
I enjoyed your videos and have watched every one of the movie clips you included. Another "Passing Movie" to watch is "Pinky" with Ethel Waters, that was also very good and deals with this subject.
I appreciate the support ‼️❤️☺️ I haven’t heard of Pinky but I will definitely check it out ❤️
@@PrettynBetween Yes please check it out!
This was a very well edited, and thoroughly researched video. Kudos to you, I wish you all of the success on your educational journey young lady. ❤
Thank you I really appreciate it ☺️❤️
That's so sad what biracial people had to go through back then 😔 it's just not fair how the world was for non white people😢
I know it was terrible 😞
The sad part is it’s still happening the whites don’t accept them the blacks grudgely accept them but we know the difference between blacks and mixed folks.
I've just started watching, but had to pause. First scenes shown in this video remind me of The Feast of All Saints (available here on youtube). Totally disgusting/disturbing.
I also see in the comments they're asking what the movies are + the discussion about working enslaved in the house... There's a gothic horror film from Argentina which shows similar scenes of abuse in the house, it's called "Los Inocentes" (directed by Mauricio Brunetti). "Besouro" is another film (Brazilian) which might be of interest. Violence is to expected since it is also a film about enslaved people. And their ways to rebel.
Queen is the name of the first movie. It's a book by Alec Haley.
@@mariahclaar7915Alex*
I have Queen on DVD.
I love the movie. It’s sad but it’s great.
Lost Boundaries is a 1949 film about Dr. Albert C. Johnston. It's good, too.
Interesting ❤️
There is a book about this.
Lawd have mercy! When that Child broke down so did MY HEART.
I know 😢😞
🤦🏾♀️😒
Thank you for this video ❤
You are so welcome!❤️
This is very true my gma used to hate going to school 🏫🎒 because the other children would call her a green eyed monster!! She wished her skin was darker. I think one of those films was called the imitation of life 🧬 she used to love that one!! 💯 🔥 💯.
These shows always show a mixed female as passing white, but the fact is there were more men who passed than women
Mullatto wasn’t just biracial depending on place and year they could have been Indian also
My indigenous 2x great grandmother passed as Mulatto and didnt sign the dawes rolls list she married a black creole man and now we black.
What were the titles of the additional clips from the film that you referenced? Excellent job, by the way!
Amistad, A Jazzman’s Blues, Harriet, 12 Years a Slave, Antebellum, A Girl Like Grace, The Strays, School Daze, The Butler, Birth of a Nation, Skinned❤️
I love this. Thank you.
You are so welcome!
I recently watched Queen for the first time just this past week. I don't know how I missed it back in the day.
It’s a classic for sure ❤️
I'm Cherokee and Irish and my ancestors came together not for love but so their children could live in peace so I've been told by racist. I met a women who was obviously white white and I like to bleach my hair, not because I'm trying to be like anyone but because it's fun. She said hey your hair is the same color as mine and then she noticed my roots and said "oh..oops..I didn't know". Didn't know what? Whats worse is was she being racist or what? We are hated worse by fully white people than black people because our phenotype is white and we do pass an they say our ancestors did this on purpose. Why do people get so obsessed with how somone was born? They are making me obsessed with who I am on a race basis. I never thought about it but now I think of it more and more. She works with people just like me, does she make little comments that they don't catch? I know because I was threatened and my mom told me what the deal was. We're all Cherokee and Irish and even the black people in our area are black and Cherokee and Irish. People who are obsessed with race on a genetic level are rare in Georgia to the point shes the first I've seen, now go across the Alabama line and I could be unalived and have been threatened because they hate us so badly. She just messed me up is all. I guess black people have to deal with this crap all the time and play was it racism or they just miss spoke. What utter bullcrap. Why is this still a thing in 2024? Like she said in the video, the one drop rule. Except I have none of what they consider white, I know because they told me.
It’s crazy the way the separated us by skin color back then. It’s the reason we were here today. I am terribly sorry you had to deal with that growing up. 😞 hopefully one day, one generation, this will no longer be a thing….
sounds like she didn't realize, at first that you dyed your hair , therefore don't have the same hair color as her🤷
One cannot be anymore than who you are .
I'm Caribbean , & maternal side of my family definitely pass for white infact they live as white people in the Caribbean, Britain & Canada.
Interesting❤️
Because tgey are white
This couldn't have happened in America, not according to yt bigots in the 21st century.
Nope according to them we're just making it all up and that it shouldn't matter even though the Holocaust, 9/11, and every other historical event does
my favorite passing movie is "Imitation of Life".
I’ve been meaning to watch that one ❤️
African Americans have an average of about 25% European ancestry. That's the equivalent of one white grandparent. Much more likely, it's actually multiple white ancestors further generations back. If you mixed 100 African Americans with 100 Africans from West Africa where the slaves were taken from, you could pick out a large majority of the Americans just based on light skin color. Africans can see an American Black coming a mile away. Since skin pigment varies in mixed populations even within families. there would have been many very light skinned, straight haired children every generation. Some would have had children with other 'blacks' and had darker children then themselves, but many probably slipped into the white working class and disappeared as 'blacks.'
Such a sad reality. It makes my heart hurt 💔
I know 😞
Thank you for sharing
Of course ❤️
Not hexoctoroons but ‘ hexadecaroons’
This has me crying at 6:30 in the morning. All the ignorant people wanting us to erase this while it makes up our whole identity, all the race traders wanting to only marry women of no color despite knowing the truth, so much slave identity.
It so sad 😢
Willie Lynch Letter has been proven false even by some Black scholars. It’s not written in the language of the time it claims to be from. There is more information in it from the Jim Crow Museum. Of course, the ideas there weren’t uncommon but it’s good to use are very real sources (primary and secondary sources) which are more and more available online.
If you can pass, it’s because you are. “SOME” amix doesn’t remove the majority. 🚩
"passing a means of survival"
Our society is sick. It is sad that people don't see each other as humans deserving of respect, but rather base treatment on skin color. "It's their world we just living in it."
Unfortunate but true 😔
In I Passed for White, Bertha played it cool. She knew ole girl was a Sister from GIT!
👍🏽💯🤣😆
Shalom family great video ❤❤❤❤
Honestly I am Indian and nothing to do with America but I cried looking at plight of queen and her mother .No one deserves this kind of life . I am myself a lower caste women in my country who at times due to education and a bit of due to looks can pass as higher caste due to being lighter skinned and slightly taller with high education . Infact at times I look of even higher caste than some high caste people . I have a privilege which I acknowledge which unfortunately my sister doesn’t due to her darker skin and shorter height . I can relate to queen in few things . My ex who I still love because I am stupid with all my heart had even commented that it’s a shame that u are lower caste than mine otherwise u are perfect for me later he hurts me and ditches me for a higher caste woman who fools him about her real complexion and turns out she is even darker than a lot of people and much older than him . Don’t get me wrong i have nothing against dark skin but India is immensely colourist and being fairer is matter of pride . I don’t support this thinking because I love my sister but we cannot ignore the colourist mindset unfortunately . I know it won’t change a thing but I am really sorry to all African American women out there affected by this plight. The British did take us as slaves as well and took us as indentured labours to various countries . I remember my grandmother narrated me that how areally beautiful 13 year old girl from her village caught eye of a British engineer who came to our native village to build roads and bridges and spoke native language fluently . He befriended her family and took a chance one day by visiting the field and raped her there . Since she was already married in childhood but hadn’t consummated her marriage yet her father and mother immediately sent her to her husbands village after knowing about what happened to her and kept it a secret . They advised her to consummate her marriage with her husband as soon as possible . Thankfully her husband was almost her age and was too innocent to understand much about sex or first time so his family didn’t suspect . She later gave birth to a boy who was very fair , hazel eyes with some green but still looked a lot like her. Hazel, grey, brown or green eyes can still be found among Indians so it wasn’t out of ordinary . My maternal. Grandma is pure Indian but has steel grey eyes but we all have dark brown . Because most of his features still looked Indian except he was lighter so it wasn’t suspected . It’s only when he grew up he looked biracial but by then almost everyone was too close and loved him a lot that it never occurred to them that what he was . His Indian father and grandfather died due to tuberculosis when he was in his 20s . Hardships made him marry in his late 30s and than he became a father of twins and surprisingly his children had almost light brown hair, white skin and green blue eyes which shocked the entire village. He trusted his wife a lot but was kind of surprised and it was than in his 40s his mother confessed him . He didn’t talk to his mom till 10 years but later he mended his relationship with her till her death. The family denies the story of rape but my grandmother knew as she was her friend . His children are older than my dad now but they just say their ancient family was from Kashmir or Himachal because many Kashmiri’s or Himachalis or punjabis or Sindhis have coloured eyes. They don’t wanna admit and that’s fine .
Wow that’s very interesting. Yes colorism has definitely done a number on communities of color and unfortunately I don’t think it’s calming down anytime soon 😔
Great commentary! I love how you showed that being a house slave /mulatto wasn't' anything better. Up until recently the black community was always talking about house slaves having it better. Being on call 24/7, g-raped every night. Everything Queen did in one day, made me tired just thinking about it! love your channel. Keep up the great work!
Thank you I appreciate it . And yes people are always assuming it was easier in the house. It’s good to reeducate our people on our history❤️
I have a child who could have passed as white. I went through so much hell from blacks and whites.
I’m sorry to hear that 😔 this world is just terrible
Can someone tell what’s the name of the movie that first plays
Queen. It's a book, too.
The. Full movie Queen link is in the description box❤️
I'm a white passing black man, but I decided not be. I don't straighten my hair, instead I have locs
Love it‼️❤️
alex Haley is the first tyler perry…
The casting for this movie was interesting… neither Halle or Raven have ever been white passing. I think Megan Markle or Rashida Jones are better examples and they wouldn’t have had to lighten their skin.
I know… they were big names at this time. So I get it. Just a thought.
If I’m not mistaken, Raven purposely tans to be darker. I remember her in the Cosby show and she was a lil light bright ☺️❤️ but I understand what you’re saying. Meagan looks more white passing.
@@PrettynBetween I agree, but both raven and Halle have phenotypically African features to me 🤷🏽♀️ idk.
😮💨😢 sad but true 🙆🏽♀️😢
People are and always have been horrible to each other . From all sides and all colors, races , and creed . People should not make up stories about awful times in history . They were bad enough on their own . Alex Hailey should have been honest and told place his books under historical fiction . It causes hurtful feelings snd stirs the hatred pot .
Thank you so much for this 🫶🏽
You're so welcome!
White passing was absolutely a tool for survival in the really old days & for many it was like ripping themselves in ½ & throwing the ither ½ away forever😮💨.I identify as 🤍 but I've been told stories of having multiple Native Americans on both sides of my tree & my mom's father was even quite tan complected. 👀 how desperate so many people were to pass for 🤍 makes me wonder how much 💩 my Native American ancestors as well as potentially other non-white ancestors had to endure as they literally whitewashed away their own identities & cultures ultimately...I don't even know what tribes any of them were associated with because nobody talked about ANYTHING regarding their cultures of origin.We are essentially ROBBING ourselves in a way when we don't discuss what our ancestors cultures were or even what all our ancestry was💔.
I know it was incredible what they went through just to live. We take
For granted how easy we have it these days compared to back then❤️
I love these stories
I know definitely a classic ❤️
@@PrettynBetween yes but they break the heart too have you seen imitation of life
as a lightskinned red haired freckled face brother i never faced discrimination from my darker skinned friends just the usual lightskinned jokes they say they rather i drive cause cops don’t pull me over lol
Aww man for real 😂😂 and that’s good you have good friends 🙂💕
I know people that still pass 😊
I can easily pass as a afro latina
Omg what was the name of first movie?!
Queen. The full movie is in the description box❤️
@@PrettynBetween thank you so much
#newsubscriber awesome videos ❤😊
Thank you love 💕❤️
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It's sad then and now that a person had to be anything more then who they truly are inside and out but I don't judge cuz unless a person walked in those shoes they really can't say if it was the rite or wrong thing to do but guess what racism happens in all or most nationalitys. Also yes it's true some masters raped there slave women but some masters and there female slaves had mutual relationships some even fell in love with each other and had mulati children not always by rape mulato or mulati maybe I misspelled it but u get the point and theses days. Almost everyone is mixed with one thing or another. I mixed with Hispanic and cacasion and I haven't always been fairly either. But god is good he except everyone
Treated
Yes this is true ❤️
So infuriating.
I can’t pass but if I had the choice I would though it was dangerous and you couldn’t speak to your black family. I love my melanin rich skin and I don’t the European Americans wanna step to this I can be rude.
It amazes me that the same offsprings. Is against reparations 👎🏼🤬👀🤷🏼♀️💛♥️🖤💚🤦🏻♀️🤡
I'm a black man and I had a daughter with a white woman. No passing because I was there to remind her of her blackness inspit of being light.
The daughters of white women that are mixed like Alicia Keys, Halle Berry, Lisa Bonet, Mariah Carey etc. would be mixed-white women as they take on the line of their mom for their X that passes to both their female and male children. So they would differ from mixed-black women like Tamara and Tia Mowrey, Tracey Ellis Ross, etc. who come from a black mom.
@@bluetinsel7099interesting..
She’s mixed she’s not black
No I would not want to pass and be like or resemble my racist oppressors. Sorry. I like your video though. I'm going to watch the movie. 🙂
Thank you ☺️❤️❤️
Please note , that brown skin isn't black and black isn't a race or nationality!!!!
I AM A BLACK WOMAN!!!!!!
Today, Zendaya passes as black.
She is actually a mixed-white woman as her mom is white.
@@bluetinsel7099 I know, but she identifies as black, just like Barack Obama who is famously known as the "first black president" of the USA, not the first mixed one.
What pisses me off is so many of us are still proud of the white blood running in our veins.
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII DON'T CARE.. WHO CARES ABOUT THIS NONSENSE. PASS ALL YOU WANT.. DOESN'T BOTHER ME ANY
I've seen this movie multiple times. The scene in the church makes me tear up every time. It breaks my heart. I'm descended from generations of biracial people on both sides. It hurts me to think that they were probably treated this way.
I know that scene gets me every time too Halley really did a great job ❤️
I have always been of the mindset that in order for someone to be "passing" they must have a substantial about of white ancestry. No full black people can pass for white unless they are albino, but I understand historically this was complicated by the one-drop rule.
Exactly. A lot of Black people who are not dark-skinned, are very delusional about this. You have to be VERY light-skinned to successfully pass, although most Black people can usually tell, anyway. For reference, you have to be as light or lighter than Beyonce, Stephen Curry, Anna Cleveland and Jesse Williams.
Yeah it is really obvious. Most often I spot in the offspring of white suburban families who've been white for generations. The whole family will look white. But there'll be one kid who has the features. Even being albino. Or as fair and blonde as can be. Most people are not super observant though and probably even the families themselves don't know. Though one tick tocker addressed viewers asking if she was black. She said no, she's white. Then she mentioned her grandfather being black. This woman was a quarter black and looked it. But she said "I'm white, obviously I'm white ". I do have a grandfather who was black and her ancestery results came back 30% black
I've always said this! In reality there is no such thing as white passing black people. You xan only ve a white passing mixed person and most of the so called white passing people are are quadroons and octoroons.
Albinos don’t really “pass.” They still have full, round facial features of a blk person, and Afro-textured hair.
They look like persons of African heritage, with albanism.
In the 1940s, 155, 500 fair skinned African Americans slipped across the color line and passed for White. By 1950, census and fertility data revealed that 21% of Whites in the USA had Black ancestry within four generations. What I said is quote by Robert Stuckert , a Sociologist who works at Ohio State University. I saw his statement on the back of a book I own titled "J. Edgar Hoover: Passing for White " by Millie McGhee-Morris. Mrs. Morris is a Black American author from McComb, Mississippi. She is also the third cousin of famed/deceased FBI director, J. Edgar Hoover.
Please there no evidence that ducker had any Black ( Edgar Hoover) in family. It's stories with in the family.
@@sophiawilson8696there’s never any evidence because to make it known was extremely taboo.
We can see examples of people who have one black grandparent but are essentially a white person all over. Drake’s son, Patrick Mahomes's children, Diana Ross’s grandchildren, Sophia Ritchie, and even Mariah Carey‘s children essentially look like any other white person. The social construct of race was made up before they really had any type of understanding of DNA and how it is passed down from parent to child. In many cases people weren’t really “passing”for white, they essentially became white over a couple of generations because you only get 50% of the DNA from both parents so the African DNA can either not be passed down or be passed down in such small amount that it’s barely there. I’m convinced that the belief that Black people have dominant genes was actually pushed so that we would essentially breed ourselves out of American society.
Maybe, but bloodline get deluted, if your in America many areas don't give enough vitamin D , and many areas are not suited for white skin.
@@calinola7957 So Nick Cannons children are white?
One day i asked my grandma what she knew about our history. Thats when she told me that her ancestors were typically house slaves and often had the masters kids. Which explained why we had a lighter skin tone. 😶😶 My great grandma used to joke about how i was so pretty id definitely be a house slave. Which is dark humor, i know. And my grandmother, her parents, and her parents before lived on the plantation where my fam was once enslaved. Crazy stuff.
Wow that’s interesting. I’m glad you know your family history that far back. ❤️
I'm a white passing mixed person, and this history is so incredibly sad. My family during the pre-civil war era were all 'mulatto slaves', which meant that they were already mixed race and could basically only marry / be with other 'mulattos'. Our family goes from the palest pale to the darkest dark. The one drop rule is a stain on US history and it's so sad that people like me had to abandon their families for a (non guaranteed) life of priviledge.
I know it’s an incredibly sad history. The things that our people have been through just to survive/live 😔
Chose to not had to
Ain't nothing fun about passing ..it's an inconvenience
Dangerous n delusional
@@charchartime1701 seriously 😳
You should read the book Black Slaveowners by Larry Koger. Parts of the book discuss free colored Slaveowners who passed for White, such as Gideon Gibson Sr, James Pendarvis, and Elijah Bass.
Gibson was really mostly black
People did what they gad to do for survival. Period ❤
I never knew about this movie. These scenes make me emotional watching. My paternal grandparents have mixed European ancestry. However, my grandmother had a significant amount of European ancestry and her family identified as Creoles from Louisiana. Her grandmother was biracial and her half sister took ownership of her after the passing of their “master” father.
That’s very interesting. ❤️ it’s crazy the things we had to do back then to survive .
Apart from Alex Haley's Queen, which other movies are shown here?
Amistad, A Jazzman’s Blues, Harriet, 12 Years a Slave, Antebellum, A Girl Like Grace, The Strays, School Daze, The Butler, Birth of a Nation, Skinned
@@PrettynBetween Have you seen Imitation of Life? There are 2 versions. The 1934 version is the best.
@@PrettynBetween the one 20th century scene is from " I Passed as White." I watched it here on UA-cam. A young woman passes to get a secretary job and she meets this man whose family is wealthy and falls for her thinking she is white. she did not intend to fall for him too, but she did.
Okay you used the 1959 version. The actress who portrayed the white passing girl was actually Mexican and white. in 1934 version it was really a light skin actress who played that role.
Freddie Washington was the actress's name in the 1934.
They did a really good job making Halle Berry look Caucasian in Queen. She literally looks full white in that movie
I believe that’s her natural skin color and she just tans
@@PrettynBetween nah she’s naturally dark with 4a hair.
@@angelacooper8973Halle berry is not dark.
No she does not! The fact that Halle was a great actress in this movie is one thing. But she was too dark! I haven’t seen a mulatto actress yet that could pass as white, I’m sure they’re out there but not yet.
@PrettynBetween That is most definitely not Halle’s natural skin tone lmao. It’s widely known that she was covered in ghost-white makeup for this role. Her natural skin tone is caramel.
It's so sad to see how deep the hate is amongst ourselves 😢😢😢
It’s terrible 😞
My great grandmother was a beautiful, bi-racial woman who most definitely could have passed , but her pride and love for her race stopped that. She was a proud woman of color. Hair straight, light eyes, alabaster skin, but a Black woman.
You say that as if her choosing blk was a disaster or disease. Dam! People are really f-ed up in the head!
Same with some german guys in nazi germany who had a distant jewish ancestor but remained with the jews and didnt distance. Alltough not jewish , like in your example the white american person of small partly african ancestry
They were Rainbow children of the Living God!
That's how they,would like, the world to be NOW!,,,
Exactly they love trying to humiliate Halle Berry in every movie to act like she needs to beg for peoples approval🙄 and they’re all Lightskin people should beg for approval. Most people don’t care about approval and I’m gonna get what I want regardless.🤣
I had native American grandparents that did this. I asked them why they chose to give up their name and their land, even after they had it secured. Because we see in the documents, and family history, that the native American people that I am related to consented to relinquishing their native status and they're right to the land, but in exchange, their children were able to go to school and work in the growing world around them, which they new was inevitable. It's sad, but I asked my great-grandfather why they chose to give up their name so easily. He said, they did it because it allowed them to have a place in the New world. But even then, that wasn't enough. They used baking soda and peroxide to lighten their skin and their hair. They made up a fake English last name. And they lied about any rumors of native ancestry, denying it. Keep in mind, this was in the early nineties in a very small town in West Virginia. The population is 500. If you are not a white christian, you will not be accepted. Yes, I am half white and half native american. I could "pass" as people say, and I often do. But people usually will detect something unusual in my face or my features, and look at me with a perplexed expression and give me the age-old question "hey... What race are you?" Sorry, I know that's an inappropriate question to be put so directly, but I hear it all the time. 😔 My white cousins think that I'm weird because I identify more with my native roots, but my native American family thinks that I'm "too white" because I am a bit on the pale side. So when I was with my cousin's growing up, I never really felt like I fit in. It sucked. And what's sad is, my white father's family was related to nearly everyone in that town, because they were original settlers, and my mother and I were still slightly shunned. And yes, they do call us the "N" word. The sleazy guys in town whistle and call me Pocahontas, which I can't stand. Or they put their hand to their face, and make the stereotypical "Indian" war cry. Yeah, sometimes I wear feathers and turquoise in my hair. Sue me. On the subject of passing, I always felt a dual edged sword about it. I was appreciative of my ancestor's sacrifice, but at the same time, I feel like they sold out too much. But that's just my opinion of my own family. Everyone has to do what they have to do to survive. It just makes me very sad, because to this day, my mother will be out at lunch with all of her blonde White friends, having $25.00 salads, and if you mentioned anything about her native American ancestry in front of her social clique, she will completely deny deny deny and she will be upset with you for doing it. It makes me sad that she is, for some reason, so ashamed of it. She bleaches her hair to the point that it breaks off. And she uses a full body makeup to hide her true complexion. She's not half white, but she does have green eyes, that's not terribly uncommon in native americans. Many native americans, particularly in the northeast, have green eyes. I don't know why she always felt the need to fit in with these skinny little white girls. Nothing against White women, it just hurts me to see someone disliking themselves to that point. But then at the same time, I'm upset with the world for making her feel that way. It's an odd confliction of emotions on the subject. Thank you for posting this video. It's extremely thought-provoking and could be used in a sociology class. ❤ My prayers go out to all of my biracial peers.
Wow that’s very interesting. I did not know that colonization also affected the natives as much. I knew other cultures experienced a form of self hate but I thought native Americans were very proud people. I am a quarter native and it seeps through my phenotype. I’m mixed passing and I also wear feathers In my hair because I am proud of that little percentage that I have. I also love the native culture very much. It’s really shocking to hear your mom felt that way. I’m glad you love to embrace that part of you❤️ it’s amazing how every culture of color deals with self hate. It’s going to take a long time for us to unravel these issues because it has been so engrained in us. The media doesn’t help either. I made a video on how W.S. (White Sup…) is the reason why we are in this position today as people of color and I feel like that video is being Shadow Ba… on purpose . I’m afraid to use certain words so I hope you knew what I was saying. I feel like any time I use certain words on here, my views slow down. But one day hopefully these issues will be behind us❤️ thank you for sharing your story 🙂
Same.😊
Hydrogen peroxide came after baking soda and that would be the 1800’s to 1900’s so that was a more recent invention, the natives you refer to may have been mixed or descendants of Europeans born in the Americas, they may be today what is known as mestizo which is European and Asian, they were not the original ones.
I'm white passing why do I relate to this today in modern times only old people tho
While it's nowhere near as brutal now as it was centuries ago, mixed people in modern day still get a lot of shade thrown at them from both sides.
Baby Raven is so cute little angel 🤍
I know ☺️❤️
Looking forward to reading Wiilie Lynch Letters. I thank the Lord revealing the tactics of satan. We must have a true relationship with God to see.