donk > m0nesy > zywoo so far in 2024 sample size argument isn't strong against donk anymore when he has MORE maps against top10, 5 opponents than zywoo does (and has a higher rating). m0nesy has the same amount of maps vs top5
yeah its not even really a conversation anymore. m0nesy vs zywoo is much closer, but m0nesy big performances have tended to come in bigger games against better teams.
important to note is also the quality of their teams. spirit, as a team, is just a lot stronger than vitality and definitely than g2. performing well is just easier if you're winning
@@okseniboksen vitality and spirit r equal and spirit is only slightly better than g2. Remember before blast donk was carrying spirit in kato and majors.
Could I recommend another category in the Community awards ? I would like to see a Caster of the year there. Anyway, I can't wait to see the whole gala-evening.
@@douglaced5910 I haven't seen that category in HLTV , Panel or in the Community Awards presented in this Launch Show. If this is a completely different event, I don't know about it, which doesn't change the fact that this category could be created.
The number 1 player right now is not debatable. The numbers don't lie. DONK BE THY NAME! Monesy vs Zywoo is closer but, we should give it to Monesy as he is more consistent when it matters.
Yeah I think its 1. Donk 2. M0nesy 3. Zywoo due to Donk's two trophies, best rating, and zywoo's lesser performance at the two biggest events of the year so far.
@@whu.9163 bro, it's literally 1 map - I can say he played better than ZywoO - if any of their playoff matches are compared and you're banging on about a group stage match that was right after they won dallas too lol - I can't make u change ur mind on ZywoO, that's plain - u do u mate.
We didn't talk about it on this show, but it will certainly be a category at the HLTV Awards. Commentator too -- as a broader "talent of the year" award, voted by the community
London event will not be taking into a count for monesy, right? And just to make clear: Poor big event performances are pretty punishable, aren't they? I mean, having
NAF plays all the same positions as Jimpphat and has better LAN stats ... Doesn't get a mention but Staehr does despite Astralis showing similar to Liquid... ... the sloth is so underrated.
@@MusicJunkie37 for sure, NAF and Twistzz hurting because of team performance. Both have proven they don't drop off much as the heat gets turned up, in fact NAF often gets better.
@@m1lkbags My issue was the mentioning of Staehr when Liquid has done the same or slightly better than Astralis this year. I'm mostly pointing out, how under the radar his performance is, not demanding he be in the list of front runners.
Dacha is such a cringe event. That is not quite fair to rate mvp from event with only Mouz and Spirit. That was an "eco farming" but in terms of tournament
@@mariushager9983 I see your point yes. But isn’t it trying to milk a little too much out of the whole “best player”-thing? At the end of the day, teamplay is just as important.
@@Flare97 imo donk still has the edge , hes a entry fragger and a riffler monesy is an awper that gives his easier time to get better stats than donks role but donk has the team to back him up and monesy doesnt
Lmao no way broky and torszi on the list instead of w0nderful. Closer is clearly JL only one to have an mvp in a major none the less. These guys are brain-dead how are they in charge of the awards
donk > m0nesy > zywoo
so far in 2024
sample size argument isn't strong against donk anymore when he has MORE maps against top10, 5 opponents than zywoo does (and has a higher rating). m0nesy has the same amount of maps vs top5
More ratings combine with more mvp and more trophies for donk over m0nesy and zywoo less maps doesn't means anything.
yeah its not even really a conversation anymore. m0nesy vs zywoo is much closer, but m0nesy big performances have tended to come in bigger games against better teams.
important to note is also the quality of their teams. spirit, as a team, is just a lot stronger than vitality and definitely than g2. performing well is just easier if you're winning
@@okseniboksen vitality and spirit r equal and spirit is only slightly better than g2. Remember before blast donk was carrying spirit in kato and majors.
maui you are fuckin based everytime
Lucas working overtime today
Going to the Awards Show would be a dream coming true. My first and last event in cologne is almost 10 years ago and still feels like a pipedream
Thank you thank you thank you to all the talent, to everyone at HL TV and especially to you Maniac! CS would not be the same without you.
Could I recommend another category in the Community awards ? I would like to see a Caster of the year there. Anyway, I can't wait to see the whole gala-evening.
They already have that award silly
@@douglaced5910 I haven't seen that category in HLTV , Panel or in the Community Awards presented in this Launch Show. If this is a completely different event, I don't know about it, which doesn't change the fact that this category could be created.
The number 1 player right now is not debatable. The numbers don't lie. DONK BE THY NAME!
Monesy vs Zywoo is closer but, we should give it to Monesy as he is more consistent when it matters.
Yeah I think its 1. Donk 2. M0nesy 3. Zywoo
due to Donk's two trophies, best rating, and zywoo's lesser performance at the two biggest events of the year so far.
monesy was 0.8 in London. You can not pretend that his performance on that event "does not count"
@@whu.9163 he flew in right before the match started - you can ignore that, safely.
@@72hrs_vermithor It seems to be his own problem, so idk how to ignore that. Fact is that his performance was weak
@@whu.9163 bro, it's literally 1 map - I can say he played better than ZywoO - if any of their playoff matches are compared and you're banging on about a group stage match that was right after they won dallas too lol - I can't make u change ur mind on ZywoO, that's plain - u do u mate.
they might not know twitter is barely used outside of the us
Twitter doesn’t have that many users. Just loud ones
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Very surprised with the amount of pros who didn’t say monesy for top 3 even
This was asked at Kato REALLY early in the year
No category for best coach? Oof. There could also be one for best commentator. Anyway, looking forward to the event.
We didn't talk about it on this show, but it will certainly be a category at the HLTV Awards. Commentator too -- as a broader "talent of the year" award, voted by the community
London event will not be taking into a count for monesy, right?
And just to make clear: Poor big event performances are pretty punishable, aren't they? I mean, having
NAF plays all the same positions as Jimpphat and has better LAN stats ... Doesn't get a mention but Staehr does despite Astralis showing similar to Liquid...
... the sloth is so underrated.
I agree NAF is underrated, Jimpphat has gone deeper in tournaments tho
@@MusicJunkie37 for sure, NAF and Twistzz hurting because of team performance. Both have proven they don't drop off much as the heat gets turned up, in fact NAF often gets better.
liquid just hasnt made deep enough runs. Just like when KSCERATO was a top8 player but got 19th because of Furia being shit.
@@m1lkbags My issue was the mentioning of Staehr when Liquid has done the same or slightly better than Astralis this year.
I'm mostly pointing out, how under the radar his performance is, not demanding he be in the list of front runners.
@@RobCooper-Bachatador astralis have 4 semi-finals. Liquid have 0.
Astralis are way better
pros were asked at Kato. Now top 3 is indisputably donk/zywoo/monesy and nobody else is even particularly close
I am in the future and m0nesy is top1 of 2024. Remember my words.
No, donk is so much better
1:25:40 i mean there was Devve s1 Niko in 2018
Nah, s1mple was pretty clearly the top 1 player 2018. But I get your point.
Why awards in middle of season?
it's just an announcement show for the awards in january
Well done, the CIS, as always, is ahead! ru
I'm guessing this was a compulsory requirement by 1xbet because this video feels kinda unnecessary.
BB + 1xbet, tbh
Dacha is such a cringe event. That is not quite fair to rate mvp from event with only Mouz and Spirit. That was an "eco farming" but in terms of tournament
Well it has VP, Spirit, Mouz ( Solid tier 1), Falcon, Heroic and Betboom (tier 1.5-2) so i say it's a decent event.
Well think about how many events Spirit sat out. You could have Donk with a few more MVPs if they played as many events as other teams.
@@brianpreller5554 that only Spirit's issue. My point is about farm event, with prices ( they will matter in rating ) and MVP. Cringe
Personally, it takes a little from the actual event in january - by “spoiling” it halfway…
exactly , i don't understand the purpose of this video at all oO
Its a check in after half the year. A lot can happen in the remaining part.
big disagree
@@mariushager9983 I see your point yes. But isn’t it trying to milk a little too much out of the whole “best player”-thing? At the end of the day, teamplay is just as important.
dnt top 3 is confirmed i think its actually insane for a rookie year
Riffler vs AWPers but Donk using AK like an AWP. Haha
AWP vs hybrid awper/riffler vs riffler
Donk top 1
Donk best player in the world without a doubt second is m0nesy and third zywoo.
I agree rn as of london. Before i think it was up in the air between monesy and donk. Still really close imo
I disagree
@@Greyimm why?
I think m0nesy is slightly better than donk.
@@Flare97 imo donk still has the edge , hes a entry fragger and a riffler monesy is an awper that gives his easier time to get better stats than donks role but donk has the team to back him up and monesy doesnt
Lmao no way broky and torszi on the list instead of w0nderful. Closer is clearly JL only one to have an mvp in a major none the less. These guys are brain-dead how are they in charge of the awards
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Luckily G2 got to steal Dallas so Monesey could join the BB BLAST EPL MVP Elites
So basically, bunch of adults drooling over video game players for an hour and forty minutes.