It's such an honest little rifle. Those groups were very impressive. Now, what would go great with this rifle. is to build a gallery range like they had in the old Carnivals. Congrats again on scoring this rifle.
Thanks Snapper! I have looked on ebay for some of those gallery targets. When you find the originals, they are pricey! If I ever get my workshop built, I might just have to take a look at building a string of ducks on a conveyer of chain. Thanks for watching!
My daughter is right-handed but shoots left-handed with a rifle. I searched for quite a while but finally found an old "gallery gun" that she loved! I can appreciate your soft spot for them. Exquisitely simple and reliable.
I have a Winchester 1890 22 WRF. Found it in a barn while in the service. Was manufactured in 1911. Love this little rifle. Still have it and it functions and shoots good
I was given one of these from my grandfather for my 11th birthday some 53 years ago. Mine still has most of its original blueing and is a tack driver when I can find WRF ammo.
I'll bet if mine would have been properly cared for, it would look pretty good too. These things are amazing but they need to be kept in the right conditions to stay looking good. I hope you get to enjoy yours for many, many more years. The ammo is sort of "seasonal" and I usually find it at smaller gun shops, I don't ever recall seeing it in any of the Big Chain stores. Buy it when you do find it. Thanks for watching!
The store I picked it up at, usually has it on their shelf year round. That may change now that I have one chambered in that round! (I did pick up two more boxes yesterday)
If it was in better condition, I wouldn't do any more than preserve it. Since this one is so rough, I think I'll try my best to make it the "Bell of the Ball"! Thanks for watching!
I once got a Stevens Crack shot 26 that had come out of a fire. It was a smooth bore "garden gun" for rat shot loads. I got it for a song. One of the old timers in the machine shop I worked in fell in love with it and I moved it along. I dont miss the crack shot much, but I sure do miss ol Homer Dale of Farmersville, Oh. He was one hell of a good picker on them strings too.
There's not a lot of difference in the dimensions of the two cartridges, I'm not sure about the pressures though. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching too!
Richard, Thanks for a trip down memory lane! Super pleased that you have this weapon. 👍 My first rifle was an 1890 chambered in 22 Long. Was my grandfather's "gopher gun". He kept it in the barn, and had a dark patina, but I shot it for years and it was absolutely amazing. Sadly my ex-wife was spending more money than we had, and I was forced to sell it, and a 1954 Winchester M70 to pay off our debt. Those were the first to go. She's gone, thank goodness, but so's many of my classic weapons.😒 Anyway, enjoy your 1890!👍
I hate to hear that. I've had to get rid of a couple of those as well, thankfully the one I have now is absolutely wonderful. She doesn't even mind when I buy another gun! Thanks for watching!
I’ve got a 1890 Winchester made in 1909 in 22 short, it has been sleeved, and is a tack driver. I grew up in the 1950’s, when we went to the county fair and shot these guns in a gallery. After a lever gun, these pumps are my favorite.
I also have one in .22 short. It will need a sleeve as well. I've got the stuff to do it, I just haven't got around to it yet! I think I may try to get caught up on a few of these projects this Winter. Thanks for watching!
I thought he was shooting in his living room. 😂. Thats a quiet gun. Nice! I bought a Winchester model 12 made in 1912 a few months ago. Really fun rifle.
Lol! All those rifles are cool in my book. It's not terribly loud, but I do limit the volume on the final video a bit. Sometimes people listen with some sort of ear buds or headphones. I don't want to blast their eardrums out. It bugs me when you get the volume of a video just where you want it and all of a sudden it starts blasting really loud. I have screwed up and left the audio at full level before though! Thanks for watching and enjoy your Model 12!
I would recommend looking at Mark Novak's Channel and conserving it with his method of turning the red oxide (rust) to black oxide and carting wheel off the oxide. It should clean up super nice.
I picked one of these up in an antique store last summer, it was in real tough shape but I liked it. Unfortunately when I got it home & did some investigating I found that someone had changed out the carrier & the inner tube magazine for a .22 LR, same WRF receiver / barrel. I have been looking for parts for it since & did manage to find the correct carrier & installed a .22 MAG inner tube cut to the correct length. Now it picks up the first round but will not pick up anymore? Anyway love these old rifles & will keep looking for parts to get it back into working condition. I wish that we Canadians could buy parts & have them shipped from the States, we have to much government!!
Very neat gun. I wouldn't sleeve it unless absolutely necessary, and she looks like a good enough shooter to leave it alone. My dad has an old pump action "gallery gun", a Montgomery Wards stamped rifle, can't remember the model number, it is hammerless and in need of some attention, after who knows how many thousands of rounds over the years the barrel is a bit loose in the receiver, but she still fires. Thanks for sharing and giving us a look at your old classic.
Identical cartridge, but I think it was because Remington didn't want to give credit to Winchester that the name was changed. Sort of like the 44WCF and the 44-40. Thanks for watching!
I've restored 5 or 6 of the 1890s. They were all in various stages of deterioration otherwise I would have left them in original condition since that is preferable for many collectors. Yours also looks like a good candidate for restoration. Since it shoots well, I'd keep it as is mechanically. Just do a face lift as well as a good cleaning. I have to say, you were brave putting your face down there for that first shot. You could have regretted doing that. I would have shot it blind with my face somewhere away from the action. Accuracy is not as important as your eyesight.
I did end up doing a "restoration" of this rifle: ua-cam.com/video/JCwBQEtmpUk/v-deo.html If I would have left it in original condition, it probably wouldn't have been worth any more than I paid for it, and I got it fairly cheap. She was very rough! Before I took it out to shoot, I did do and extensive cleaning and a detailed inspection under magnification and with a borescope. I was pretty confident that nothing catastrophic was going to happen, but you are 100% right. I should not have put my face so close to the action, I'm sure I could have missed a tiny defect and paid the price. I always wear safety glasses when shooting but the rest of my face was completely exposed. Thanks for making me realize my error. I've been pretty lucky so far, but who knows how long the luck will last! I hope you get a chance to check out the restoration video. I'll have a few more in the future. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I did restore my gramps old savage 22/410 and did ok and not very good at this kind of thing been 10 years since then will have to re- varnish the stock use a cheap varnish then so I am sure you will do a good job
@@homesteadohio do you know of the chinese type 81?? Here in Canada this is the only AK type rifle we can own I bought the lmg version and paid someone to 3D print stock handguard and a m249 saw type pistol grip to make a tabuk type 81 hybrid
I don't know much about the Comblock guns at all. I did do a video on an AK variant and an SKS too but as far as the many different versions of each, I'd have to study them. Sorry for answering from two different channel names!@@davegravel882
You absolutely cannot kill these old guns. They were made to LAST AND LAST. Let’s see if one of Henry’s junk pot metal and plastic .22 pumps lasts as long and still shoots!
I have an 1890 in .22 short that has some issues, the chamber is trashed. I suspect it's from neglect though. I don't think I'll be around when the Henry rifles are as old as these sweet Winchesters! I do like these old pieces of history though! Thank you for watching!
It's such an honest little rifle. Those groups were very impressive. Now, what would go great with this rifle. is to build a gallery range like they had in the old Carnivals. Congrats again on scoring this rifle.
Thanks Snapper! I have looked on ebay for some of those gallery targets. When you find the originals, they are pricey! If I ever get my workshop built, I might just have to take a look at building a string of ducks on a conveyer of chain. Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I hope you do someday. it would be so cool to have something like that nowadays
My daughter is right-handed but shoots left-handed with a rifle. I searched for quite a while but finally found an old "gallery gun" that she loved! I can appreciate your soft spot for them. Exquisitely simple and reliable.
I know a couple people like that. I am cross eye dominant. I'd like to pick up a bunch more of these old plinkers. Thanks for watching!
I have a Winchester 1890 22 WRF. Found it in a barn while in the service. Was manufactured in 1911. Love this little rifle. Still have it and it functions and shoots good
Very nice! Thanks for your service!
I was given one of these from my grandfather for my 11th birthday some 53 years ago. Mine still has most of its original blueing and is a tack driver when I can find WRF ammo.
I'll bet if mine would have been properly cared for, it would look pretty good too. These things are amazing but they need to be kept in the right conditions to stay looking good. I hope you get to enjoy yours for many, many more years.
The ammo is sort of "seasonal" and I usually find it at smaller gun shops, I don't ever recall seeing it in any of the Big Chain stores. Buy it when you do find it.
Thanks for watching!
What a wonderful find. 👍
I think so too! Thanks for watching!
Awesome old gun! And after all those years still shoots. Imagine the stories it could tell.
It has been both well used and neglected! Thanks for watching!
Looks like a fun gallery gun. Glad you were able to source ammunition fof it.
The store I picked it up at, usually has it on their shelf year round. That may change now that I have one chambered in that round! (I did pick up two more boxes yesterday)
Thats such a cool little gun love it
There's a special place in my heart for these old rifles, and one in my safe too! Thanks for watching A.R.!
Even if it is not the Belle of the Ball, I still say its a jewel Richard.
If it was in better condition, I wouldn't do any more than preserve it. Since this one is so rough, I think I'll try my best to make it the "Bell of the Ball"! Thanks for watching!
I once got a Stevens Crack shot 26 that had come out of a fire. It was a smooth bore "garden gun" for rat shot loads. I got it for a song. One of the old timers in the machine shop I worked in fell in love with it and I moved it along. I dont miss the crack shot much, but I sure do miss ol Homer Dale of Farmersville, Oh. He was one hell of a good picker on them strings too.
I like when good memories can be associated with a firearm. Thanks for watching!
I know a guy that has one of these and he had it tooled for 22 MAG and it works great.
There's not a lot of difference in the dimensions of the two cartridges, I'm not sure about the pressures though. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching too!
Richard,
Thanks for a trip down memory lane! Super pleased that you have this weapon. 👍
My first rifle was an 1890 chambered in 22 Long. Was my grandfather's "gopher gun". He kept it in the barn, and had a dark patina, but I shot it for years and it was absolutely amazing. Sadly my ex-wife was spending more money than we had, and I was forced to sell it, and a 1954 Winchester M70 to pay off our debt. Those were the first to go. She's gone, thank goodness, but so's many of my classic weapons.😒
Anyway, enjoy your 1890!👍
I hate to hear that. I've had to get rid of a couple of those as well, thankfully the one I have now is absolutely wonderful. She doesn't even mind when I buy another gun! Thanks for watching!
I’ve got a 1890 Winchester made in 1909 in 22 short, it has been sleeved, and is a tack driver. I grew up in the 1950’s, when we went to the county fair and shot these guns in a gallery. After a lever gun, these pumps are my favorite.
I also have one in .22 short. It will need a sleeve as well. I've got the stuff to do it, I just haven't got around to it yet! I think I may try to get caught up on a few of these projects this Winter. Thanks for watching!
Very neat historical little rifle. I totally get your appreciation of it.👍🏻
Any time I see these old rifles, I want to bring them home with me, sort of like a lost puppy. Thanks for watching!
I thought he was shooting in his living room. 😂. Thats a quiet gun. Nice! I bought a Winchester model 12 made in 1912 a few months ago. Really fun rifle.
Lol! All those rifles are cool in my book. It's not terribly loud, but I do limit the volume on the final video a bit. Sometimes people listen with some sort of ear buds or headphones. I don't want to blast their eardrums out. It bugs me when you get the volume of a video just where you want it and all of a sudden it starts blasting really loud. I have screwed up and left the audio at full level before though!
Thanks for watching and enjoy your Model 12!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Ah well thanks for the audio adjustment, it does make for a nicer video.
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Absolutely!@@1diggers1
Nice rifle! A restoration video would be pretty cool.
It's going to be a little while, but I'm working on getting things going in the right direction! Thanks for watching!
I would recommend looking at Mark Novak's Channel and conserving it with his method of turning the red oxide (rust) to black oxide and carting wheel off the oxide. It should clean up super nice.
I will be doing rust bluing but I will be doing some extras as well. If it was in better shape I would do less. Thanks for watching!
I picked one of these up in an antique store last summer, it was in real tough shape but I liked it. Unfortunately when I got it home & did some investigating I found that someone had changed out the carrier & the inner tube magazine for a .22 LR, same WRF receiver / barrel. I have been looking for parts for it since & did manage to find the correct carrier & installed a .22 MAG inner tube cut to the correct length. Now it picks up the first round but will not pick up anymore? Anyway love these old rifles & will keep looking for parts to get it back into working condition. I wish that we Canadians could buy parts & have them shipped from the States, we have to much government!!
They are such cool old rifles! Keep looking, the parts show up every now and then. Thanks for watching!
Very neat gun. I wouldn't sleeve it unless absolutely necessary, and she looks like a good enough shooter to leave it alone. My dad has an old pump action "gallery gun", a Montgomery Wards stamped rifle, can't remember the model number, it is hammerless and in need of some attention, after who knows how many thousands of rounds over the years the barrel is a bit loose in the receiver, but she still fires. Thanks for sharing and giving us a look at your old classic.
No sleeve for this one, my 22 short version, does need a sleeve though. Thank you for watching!
Nice gun the gunfather just restored one last week for Michael waddell it's turned out great
I might have to check it out. Thanks for the comment!
Nice looking hardware. Like the style and the long octagonal barrel. Can see why you were drawn to it.
Old and crusty is good. Ask me how I know. JimE
Lol! I get called that by all them whipper snappers at work! Thanks for watching JimE!
Makes you wonder who would ever let something that nice get in that condition.
I've seen a lot of them that just get forgotten and not stored in the best conditions. Thanks for watching!
I have Remington in 22rem special the same cartridge. I have found ammo on a local gun forum.
Identical cartridge, but I think it was because Remington didn't want to give credit to Winchester that the name was changed. Sort of like the 44WCF and the 44-40. Thanks for watching!
Apezar de antiga essa arma funciona muito bem, e a qualidade de fabricação da época é ótima.
Concordo. Essa é uma das razões pelas quais adoro essas armas de fogo antigas. Obrigado por assistir!
Would be interesting to see a video on how you would clean up the surface on that gun.
It's coming.....hopefully in the near future!
I've restored 5 or 6 of the 1890s. They were all in various stages of deterioration otherwise I would have left them in original condition since that is preferable for many collectors. Yours also looks like a good candidate for restoration. Since it shoots well, I'd keep it as is mechanically. Just do a face lift as well as a good cleaning. I have to say, you were brave putting your face down there for that first shot. You could have regretted doing that. I would have shot it blind with my face somewhere away from the action. Accuracy is not as important as your eyesight.
I did end up doing a "restoration" of this rifle: ua-cam.com/video/JCwBQEtmpUk/v-deo.html
If I would have left it in original condition, it probably wouldn't have been worth any more than I paid for it, and I got it fairly cheap. She was very rough! Before I took it out to shoot, I did do and extensive cleaning and a detailed inspection under magnification and with a borescope. I was pretty confident that nothing catastrophic was going to happen, but you are 100% right. I should not have put my face so close to the action, I'm sure I could have missed a tiny defect and paid the price. I always wear safety glasses when shooting but the rest of my face was completely exposed. Thanks for making me realize my error. I've been pretty lucky so far, but who knows how long the luck will last! I hope you get a chance to check out the restoration video. I'll have a few more in the future. Thanks for watching!
Sweet!
Very!
Treasure!
That's how I see them too! Thanks for watching!
Very nice 😁👍🇺🇸
Thanks 👍
Hmm hope you will show it up once restore
I hope I do it well enough to show it! Thanks for watching!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I did restore my gramps old savage 22/410 and did ok and not very good at this kind of thing been 10 years since then will have to re- varnish the stock use a cheap varnish then so I am sure you will do a good job
Thanks, I hope so!@@davegravel882
@@homesteadohio do you know of the chinese type 81?? Here in Canada this is the only AK type rifle we can own I bought the lmg version and paid someone to 3D print stock handguard and a m249 saw type pistol grip to make a tabuk type 81 hybrid
I don't know much about the Comblock guns at all. I did do a video on an AK variant and an SKS too but as far as the many different versions of each, I'd have to study them. Sorry for answering from two different channel names!@@davegravel882
I have been looking for a gun like this how did you find it please let me know thanks
Local gun shows. I go just to find the old stuff. They're usually asking too much, but sometimes they'll make you a deal. Thanks for watching!
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Thanks!
Where did you find the ammo
A local gun store had some on the shelf. They make runs of it every now and then. Thanks for watching!
I know of a handgun in that caliber
Really? That's pretty cool. Thanks for watching!
You absolutely cannot kill these old guns. They were made to LAST AND LAST. Let’s see if one of Henry’s junk pot metal and plastic .22 pumps lasts as long and still shoots!
I have an 1890 in .22 short that has some issues, the chamber is trashed. I suspect it's from neglect though. I don't think I'll be around when the Henry rifles are as old as these sweet Winchesters! I do like these old pieces of history though! Thank you for watching!
Thats a cool find considering its age id say you did ok
I think so too! It is a little rough but functions like new. Thanks for watching Joe!