Absolutely, we all need to cross pollinate. All the grappling sports can learn something. I think many of the competition rules in judo have ruined it too. In particular, banning leg grabs, and ending the yuko which has lead to massive score inflation. I also preferred the drama of flag raising over these tedious golden score bouts. I am glad they’re finally allowing more time for groundwork though. It’s usually very clear when a fighter is skilled, is aiming to execute a killer move and making progress. Maybe penalise those feigning intent , just trying to waste time as they do in tachiwaza. 🙏🏿🇬🇧
@@david.4491 watch for the leg grabs, Judoka are now far more susceptible to those since they've been banned in the last year. If your opponent goes for Kani Bassami, don't resist. Just go with it. It's not worth the injury.
Old school Judokas are very familiar with leg grabs like morote gari,kuchiki daochi,sukui nage, and the pick up throws like kata guruma and te guruma and leg grabs can be evade as soon as they are about to be launched and that's by good quick footwork (Tai Sabaki)and moves like kuchiki Daoshi (single leg take down can be countered with an Uchimata for exemple
@@reigninblood123 I do remember an Olympic bronze medal bout where Mark Huizinga used this stance successfully against Euan Barton, but I’d still rather just give shidos as and where necessary.
I started training Judo recently and it's the one thing that drives me nuts about the style. "But his legs right there" not allowed. But it's right there" not allowed. 😅
Just a point,never stand on their back. The major of judo techniques are based on the opponent stand on their back. If you want to do a suplex, do it very fast so the can't counter it.
Judo is 80/20 standing and ground. BJJ is 80/20 ground and standing. Sambo is definitely more 60/40 standing and ground. More complete, definitely. However, a jack of all traits can't always beat a specialist in their field.
One thing I realize yesterday is that Sambo is what Judo was supposed to be. Even in initial days of Judo, the clothes were similar to those of Sambo. Same for the techniques.
Once you start adding punches in it's a %100 complete art. Source? Khabib and all the other insanely skilled Sambists in the UFC and other tournaments.
@@ManofOneGod Sambo's groundfighting, while superior to Judo's isn't as focused. Sambists in the UFC and other MMA promotions train other arts and train with arts they know they'll be going up against, so their ground fighting becomes more complete. Khabib himself spent a ton of time doing Jiu-jitsu at AKA. Believe me, this isn't me advocating for Jiu-jitsu. I'm a Catch Wrestler, I just think it's good to add some perspective. I've done Sambo, it's a great art, but like any it isn't complete.
Yes, as an old time Judoka, this is absolutely true. You can break a pistol grip pretty easily, but it does make you lose concentration, and you can get thrown doing it.
I've been practicing Sambo after 7 years of practicing Judo, and I've gotta say, all of these facts had to be learned the hard way and learn to adapt to different competitions or spars. Due to the ruling system in Judo, most of the leg work standing has been quite forgotten, but it was refreshing to see that Sambo has a bigger degree of freedom by using a bigger mixture of styles. Pf course the Judo background helped a lot in mking a good base and optimizing the use of force and impactful attacks, but learning Sambo has been an experience starting from scratch and positively reformulating my own combative strategies. Good content!
@@pablotapiafineart Sambo was created with a perspective of a combat system to disarm and neutralize for war times, so its aim is to be quick and effective. Now in terms of self defense, more than the art itself, is having a proper reaction more than anything. But in terms of "completeness", Sambo has more tools than Judo for self defense, but if you know self defense tactics based on Judo, it will be highly efficient without a doubt.
Great video as always, and thank you for taking time out of your day to make them. Question: How do you plan to get Sambo in the Olympics? ( not trying to be negative I really like Sambo) I ask because Wrestling almost got removed from Olympic games, and Judo had to remove leg attacks in order to stay in the Olympic games because it looked too much like wrestling. Perhaps there needs to be a new form of Olympic, one for only combat sports. You'll get Bjj, Sambo, Judo, Boxing, Kendo, Hema, Wrestling( freestyle and Greco), Sumo etc.
Hey there love your content. I just wanted to ask if you could ever analyze a sambo match and do a breakdown of it as it's not very familiar to westerners.
I love both judo and sambo and I wonder, could an international level athlete compete in both maintaining the same level? I have seen judokas maintain their skill in sambo as well, but I can't find any information about sambists who have done the same in judo. Thank you 😊
Hello I compete in Bohurt, I was wondering what types of throws would be most effective for “Profights” in armor? I have a sword in one hand and a shield in the other. How would you utilize Sambo in a suit of armor?
Hi! I know I'm a couple of years late. However I'm going to try and steer you into a direction from a Judo perspective (since grappling broadly applies) and generally speaking, there should be some concensus amongst the advice you have heared. The big thing is lack of grips, however the use of your sword in positions where your sword might be hooked/trapped around your opponent might be beneficial. There are a few throws that come to mind: O-goshi: When you are in a clinch and have an underhook (your arm under your opponents arm), be it shield or sword. Koshi-guruma: You may have overhook(s) instead, so you can do a similar movement by taking out your opponents head like you are slashing with a scycle. O-uchi-gari: The hands don't necessarily matter, though the technicalities can benefit you. What matters is that in a clinch you can drive down on your opponents shield and reap the leg thier shield is on (which should be thier left if you are right handed). Soto-Makikomi: You may be in a situation where your opponent my deflect your attack and as a result your arms may be guided to one side of your opponents body. You can overhook your opponent's (if your opponent deflects using his left hand shield you would be forced to the right side of his body) right arm and wrap around to accomplish soto-makikomi. Those were a few suggestions based on only conjecture since I personally have not done any armored combat. Though the core concepts and principals still apply. Ultimately, you should try and find what not only works, but apply solutions to situations you most find/put yourself in, and not on what possibly can happen. Hope this helps, and sorry for the late response!
The problem is the aesthetics. To be respected as oplympic discipline you must think in the spectators. They loved Bruce Lee (who may have been just a modell) and Muhammad Ali. They wanted to see Ali stop Foreman. The last great wrestler was Wilfried Dietrich because he showed elegance by throwing Chris Taylor spectacularly. The spectators don't want to see slow "raw" strength they want to see elegant power which seems very easy when you just see it
No disrespect or mockery brother. Just his anecdotal experience. I’m a judo nikkyu and bjj blue belt and from my experience, he’s right. Judoka usually have no answer for leg attacks in ne waza.
@@jedijudoka well there is some disrespect twards judo throughout the video maybe not mockery but thats not in the spirit of martial arts. I went 2 times on world sambo championship with 9 years of judo experience and 2 days of sambo experience and won 7th and 5th place and would never say anything disrespectful about sambo, the only thing i can say is that its much easier to win sambo world medal than judo world medal, and i can tell you that i am very well with ankle locks and little bit less with knee bars
So the way to beat a Judoka is to let the Judo Federation do it for you. Sambo will never be an Olympic sport unless you willing to stop using those moves you talked about in this video. The fans find it boring.
@@pelejahosoba5280 sorry buddy, it's a fact. I'll even add to that, majority of black belt judoka cant even hang on the ground with a legit bjj blue belt lol. I'm a bjj purple...went to a few judo dojos to cross train. They grabbed my collar I ducked under and hit them with a high crotch from hell. "Oh, you cant do that" Do what? "Duck under a collar grip, or high crotch " Lol.
@@VoltedSoldier I understand u, but u can't just conclude or generalize for all judokas, I personally have fought top and world bjj athletes, it wasn't always easy but I won most time's and losed at time's, but u are right, most judokas have terrible ground game
@@VoltedSoldier so you went to do a sport and pulled top moves you're not allowed using ? Do you go to soccer training and try dunking the ball? This seems more a fanboi boasting. Its like a judoka going to bjj school where they have zero takedown skills except single leg and saying "wow, bjj guys really suck at standup." Are we going to have a debate if judoka ground games are as bad as bjj standing? Yaaaawn.
The stiff arm block and the “don’t dance with him” tips are subtle, but super useful.
Ramsey??? I love your channel, didn’t expect to see you here!
@@maxwell7942 he's everywhere🤣
As a Judoka, I'm a big believer of competing in Sambo/ Jiu Jitsu. Very important to be exposed the the holes in our style.
Yep, and you’ve got a great surname 🤣🤣🤣👍🏿
Absolutely, we all need to cross pollinate. All the grappling sports can learn something. I think many of the competition rules in judo have ruined it too. In particular, banning leg grabs, and ending the yuko which has lead to massive score inflation. I also preferred the drama of flag raising over these tedious golden score bouts. I am glad they’re finally allowing more time for groundwork though. It’s usually very clear when a fighter is skilled, is aiming to execute a killer move and making progress. Maybe penalise those feigning intent , just trying to waste time as they do in tachiwaza.
🙏🏿🇬🇧
I'm gonna compete I. Jiu Jitsu, and head to the east coast to train in sambo for a week
I am competing in Sambo as a Judoka but I hope this video helps me
@@david.4491 watch for the leg grabs, Judoka are now far more susceptible to those since they've been banned in the last year.
If your opponent goes for Kani Bassami, don't resist. Just go with it. It's not worth the injury.
As a judoka, I approve of this video. Haha
Haha! Thanks!
Old school Judokas are very familiar with leg grabs like morote gari,kuchiki daochi,sukui nage, and the pick up throws like kata guruma and te guruma and leg grabs can be evade as soon as they are about to be launched and that's by good quick footwork (Tai Sabaki)and moves like kuchiki Daoshi (single leg take down can be countered with an Uchimata for exemple
“Dancing”happent to me in a tournament in the Netherlands: my opponent was just waiting for me to do that. Thank you from Brussels Sambo AS 98
Leg lock tip is by far the best. I don’t want to hold out on that too long without tapping.
I’m so glad I started learning from this channel. 👍
Glad to hear it!
Excellent information. Spasiba.
I would gladly bring back the leg grabs to judo!
They had to be taken out. Players were adopting a defensive jigotai position.
@@reigninblood123 I do remember an Olympic bronze medal bout where Mark Huizinga used this stance successfully against Euan Barton, but I’d still rather just give shidos as and where necessary.
I started training Judo recently and it's the one thing that drives me nuts about the style. "But his legs right there" not allowed. But it's right there" not allowed. 😅
There are federation that allow partial leg grabs and there is kosen judo, go sign up to compete in those federation and make them grow.
Just a point,never stand on their back. The major of judo techniques are based on the opponent stand on their back. If you want to do a suplex, do it very fast so the can't counter it.
Judo is 80/20 standing and ground. BJJ is 80/20 ground and standing. Sambo is definitely more 60/40 standing and ground. More complete, definitely. However, a jack of all traits can't always beat a specialist in their field.
One thing I realize yesterday is that Sambo is what Judo was supposed to be. Even in initial days of Judo, the clothes were similar to those of Sambo. Same for the techniques.
Once you start adding punches in it's a %100 complete art. Source? Khabib and all the other insanely skilled Sambists in the UFC and other tournaments.
@@ManofOneGod Sambo's groundfighting, while superior to Judo's isn't as focused. Sambists in the UFC and other MMA promotions train other arts and train with arts they know they'll be going up against, so their ground fighting becomes more complete. Khabib himself spent a ton of time doing Jiu-jitsu at AKA. Believe me, this isn't me advocating for Jiu-jitsu. I'm a Catch Wrestler, I just think it's good to add some perspective. I've done Sambo, it's a great art, but like any it isn't complete.
That's not true
@Tormoha Fighter you're absolutely correct
Thank you!
Have to fight a judo black belt next week, will go for his legs
Yes, as an old time Judoka, this is absolutely true.
You can break a pistol grip pretty easily, but it does make you lose concentration, and you can get thrown doing it.
I've been practicing Sambo after 7 years of practicing Judo, and I've gotta say, all of these facts had to be learned the hard way and learn to adapt to different competitions or spars. Due to the ruling system in Judo, most of the leg work standing has been quite forgotten, but it was refreshing to see that Sambo has a bigger degree of freedom by using a bigger mixture of styles. Pf course the Judo background helped a lot in mking a good base and optimizing the use of force and impactful attacks, but learning Sambo has been an experience starting from scratch and positively reformulating my own combative strategies.
Good content!
From a purely self defence point of view…which one you think is better?
@@pablotapiafineart Sambo was created with a perspective of a combat system to disarm and neutralize for war times, so its aim is to be quick and effective. Now in terms of self defense, more than the art itself, is having a proper reaction more than anything. But in terms of "completeness", Sambo has more tools than Judo for self defense, but if you know self defense tactics based on Judo, it will be highly efficient without a doubt.
Awesome
Interesting
Very well
0:00 I looove ypur cjannal a dhow you teach me sambo and judo I have mever practiced them ❤❤
Freaking awesome
pistol grip is allowed in judo again now for a few years already.
I was gonna say that!
Great video as always, and thank you for taking time out of your day to make them.
Question: How do you plan to get Sambo in the Olympics? ( not trying to be negative I really like Sambo) I ask because Wrestling almost got removed from Olympic games, and Judo had to remove leg attacks in order to stay in the Olympic games because it looked too much like wrestling. Perhaps there needs to be a new form of Olympic, one for only combat sports. You'll get Bjj, Sambo, Judo, Boxing, Kendo, Hema, Wrestling( freestyle and Greco), Sumo etc.
SAMBO is already in the Olympics, but the question is when it will be directly in the program. What form is another question.
@@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera I didn't know that, thanks for the reply
Hey there love your content. I just wanted to ask if you could ever analyze a sambo match and do a breakdown of it as it's not very familiar to westerners.
I plan to review sambo fights
I didn't know judo guys and sambo guys competed against each other
Mate… I wish Sambo was popular in Australia!😞😞😞 We need more Sambists coming here.
Where are you located, I have been looking for classes in Melbourne.
@@Todo_fighting Newcastle…
I love both judo and sambo and I wonder, could an international level athlete compete in both maintaining the same level? I have seen judokas maintain their skill in sambo as well, but I can't find any information about sambists who have done the same in judo.
Thank you 😊
Which one is harder to beat Ivan, judoka pr freestyle wrestler?
👍👍👍
8:50 -> beautiful move
Hello I compete in Bohurt, I was wondering what types of throws would be most effective for “Profights” in armor? I have a sword in one hand and a shield in the other. How would you utilize Sambo in a suit of armor?
Hi! I know I'm a couple of years late. However I'm going to try and steer you into a direction from a Judo perspective (since grappling broadly applies) and generally speaking, there should be some concensus amongst the advice you have heared.
The big thing is lack of grips, however the use of your sword in positions where your sword might be hooked/trapped around your opponent might be beneficial.
There are a few throws that come to mind:
O-goshi: When you are in a clinch and have an underhook (your arm under your opponents arm), be it shield or sword.
Koshi-guruma: You may have overhook(s) instead, so you can do a similar movement by taking out your opponents head like you are slashing with a scycle.
O-uchi-gari: The hands don't necessarily matter, though the technicalities can benefit you. What matters is that in a clinch you can drive down on your opponents shield and reap the leg thier shield is on (which should be thier left if you are right handed).
Soto-Makikomi: You may be in a situation where your opponent my deflect your attack and as a result your arms may be guided to one side of your opponents body.
You can overhook your opponent's (if your opponent deflects using his left hand shield you would be forced to the right side of his body) right arm and wrap around to accomplish soto-makikomi.
Those were a few suggestions based on only conjecture since I personally have not done any armored combat.
Though the core concepts and principals still apply.
Ultimately, you should try and find what not only works, but apply solutions to situations you most find/put yourself in, and not on what possibly can happen.
Hope this helps, and sorry for the late response!
Top tier
THANKS my Friend totally Insightful and Helpful as Always.. Greetings! ;) |w/ \w|
who is the guy with the white judo-gi at 7:22?
The problem is the aesthetics. To be respected as oplympic discipline you must think in the spectators.
They loved Bruce Lee (who may have been just a modell) and Muhammad Ali. They wanted to see Ali stop Foreman. The last great wrestler was Wilfried Dietrich because he showed elegance by throwing Chris Taylor spectacularly. The spectators don't want to see slow "raw" strength they want to see elegant power which seems very easy when you just see it
Do you think you could out wrestle a wrestler?
❤️Sambo is better👍 ,my opinion.
Wait!!!! I thought sambo was just Russian Judo? 😝
Would be nice to wear shorts and wrestling shoes in judo though. ❤️
I prefer the old school judogi
@@joatanpereira4272 I do not prefer mat rash on my feet, shoes would be nice!
lets do sambo
@@IvanVasylchuk_silapartera I do wish it was more accessible in the US.
Love your channel! ❤️
Apart from the leg locks,all this strategies can be countered by a judoka easily, Thanks anyway
Thank's for your opinion
Who is talking you ??.
Vlad Koulikov
If Sambo becomes an Olympic sport, expect it to be ruined.
it's possible 😬
Why are you mocking judokas and disrecpecting 8:56
He doesn't come across as mocking IMO, just making anecdotes based off his experience.
Probably because its funny. Take your hurt feelings and go away.
No disrespect or mockery brother. Just his anecdotal experience. I’m a judo nikkyu and bjj blue belt and from my experience, he’s right. Judoka usually have no answer for leg attacks in ne waza.
@@jedijudoka well there is some disrespect twards judo throughout the video maybe not mockery but thats not in the spirit of martial arts. I went 2 times on world sambo championship with 9 years of judo experience and 2 days of sambo experience and won 7th and 5th place and would never say anything disrespectful about sambo, the only thing i can say is that its much easier to win sambo world medal than judo world medal, and i can tell you that i am very well with ankle locks and little bit less with knee bars
I do not disrespect judo, but in my practice judokas did not tolerate achilles
First u need to learn how to tie ur belt corectly 🤣🤣
surely 🤣🤣🤣
So the way to beat a Judoka is to let the Judo Federation do it for you.
Sambo will never be an Olympic sport unless you willing to stop using those moves you talked about in this video. The fans find it boring.
You cant even duck under a collar grip in judo lmao. So the answer is duck under sweep single......judoka will be obliterated.
Keep dreaming bro
@@pelejahosoba5280 sorry buddy, it's a fact. I'll even add to that, majority of black belt judoka cant even hang on the ground with a legit bjj blue belt lol. I'm a bjj purple...went to a few judo dojos to cross train. They grabbed my collar I ducked under and hit them with a high crotch from hell.
"Oh, you cant do that"
Do what?
"Duck under a collar grip, or high crotch "
Lol.
@@VoltedSoldier I understand u, but u can't just conclude or generalize for all judokas, I personally have fought top and world bjj athletes, it wasn't always easy but I won most time's and losed at time's, but u are right, most judokas have terrible ground game
@@VoltedSoldier so you went to do a sport and pulled top moves you're not allowed using ? Do you go to soccer training and try dunking the ball?
This seems more a fanboi boasting. Its like a judoka going to bjj school where they have zero takedown skills except single leg and saying "wow, bjj guys really suck at standup." Are we going to have a debate if judoka ground games are as bad as bjj standing? Yaaaawn.
You can duck under a collar grip in Judo... if you enjoy getting choked out standing.