Dear Timothy Thank you for sharing this video. For us at FELDER it is always important to get a feedback to our products. The problem you showed us in your video is very uncommon. According to our QC records there was only one case reported in the last years. The installed screw is a self-tapping screw. Therefor it normally sits very tight and should not come loose. Maybe the screw was not tightened with the proper momentum in the first place. We will investigate in issue and try to find a better solution for the future. If you have any other issues in the future we would be happy to hear from you directly. Felder Group Austria
I have to say I'm impressed with the Felder Group's quick post on the issue regarding one of their machines. I'm getting ready to make a final decision on purchasing a CF 741 S for my shop in NY. This would be my first Felder purchase, and it's reassuring to see they care about their customers.
Nice repair. Obviously better than the original. I like the fact that Felder commented on the posting. Quality customer service. Looking forward to your next posting.
Dunno if you guys cares but if you are stoned like me atm then you can watch pretty much all of the new movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Been binge watching with my gf for the last couple of days =)
I believe this feeders are all build in far-east. I once found the only manufacturer and he builds all feeders we commonly know. Even my 35 years old ELU feeder is now build by them (and maybe have been built even those days by them). And any feeder has its dirty little secrets.
Timothy, that's one very fine job in tearing into the Felder feeder, finding the failure -- and fixing it. : D This video would be right at home on AvE's channel. Of course, he would probably have added some rather spicy voice-over.
F38 Felder powerfeed. Have the same one and mine leaked oil from a bad seal within the first year. Felder is a fair machine but theres lots off little engineering failures like this with there machines.
It had white grease originally, so I sprayed some back on. Considering this one has been running almost daily for nearly 4 years, the dust build up was reasonably low imo.
Salut Timothy, merci pour vos vidéos, je vous souhaite à vous ainsi qu'à votre famille de belles fêtes de fin d'année et prospérité dans vos entreprises futures en 2018 @ très bientôt :-)
I hope Felder techs see this - the engineering team must have had an off day when they decided to use those crummy screws. BTW Did you consider changing out the other screw?
Looking back I should have, but I put it back in with loctite before trying to fix the other. So I didn't yet know I was going to do the tapping etc...
Four years later, we all want to know if that repair did the trick. My guess it didn't. Two springs moving back and forth is just too much for one screw to handle.
I don't think so, originally it had no threads, it was just tiny screws screwed directly into the aluminium with no threads, barely 5mm deep. It was deemed to fail. I tapped a hole 3x deeper. If the original screws lasted 3 years, this new one should go forever.
Dear Timothy
Thank you for sharing this video. For us at FELDER it is always important to get a feedback to our products. The problem you showed us in your video is very uncommon. According to our QC records there was only one case reported in the last years.
The installed screw is a self-tapping screw. Therefor it normally sits very tight and should not come loose. Maybe the screw was not tightened with the proper momentum in the first place. We will investigate in issue and try to find a better solution for the future.
If you have any other issues in the future we would be happy to hear from you directly.
Felder Group Austria
I have to say I'm impressed with the Felder Group's quick post on the issue regarding one of their machines. I'm getting ready to make a final decision on purchasing a CF 741 S for my shop in NY. This would be my first Felder purchase, and it's reassuring to see they care about their customers.
Wow, this is the first time I see a manufacturer respond and take a video seriously.
Very impressive. Kudos to Felder!
Had to do same thing in about 3 years of use. Pretty sure it is common
Nice repair. Obviously better than the original. I like the fact that Felder commented on the posting. Quality customer service. Looking forward to your next posting.
I love it when a plan comes together.
nice-looking shop
Wow! A new video from Timothy Wilmots and Ishitani Furniture in the same day! UA-cam doesn't get better than that :)
Stephen Chubb ha ha yup. I totally agree...
Dunno if you guys cares but if you are stoned like me atm then you can watch pretty much all of the new movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Been binge watching with my gf for the last couple of days =)
@Houston Bodie yea, have been using instaflixxer for since december myself :D
...and that's how a farm boy deals with a problem! Well done!
0:44 Going where no man has gone before.
Quality fix for a quality piece of equipment!!
wow didn't expect that from Felder
Thanks for sharing
Me neither, especially since the rest of the feeder is extremely well built.
I believe this feeders are all build in far-east. I once found the only manufacturer and he builds all feeders we commonly know. Even my 35 years old ELU feeder is now build by them (and maybe have been built even those days by them). And any feeder has its dirty little secrets.
Is it CoMatic perhaps?
I can not remember, but seems you are right.
I thought that Steff still make their own feeders but I haven't dug into where they are made. :-(
Timothy, that's one very fine job in tearing into the Felder feeder, finding the failure -- and fixing it. : D This video would be right at home on AvE's channel. Of course, he would probably have added some rather spicy voice-over.
Welsh Rabbit never seen that dude fix anything
AvE would be disgusted by all the dead tree schmoo, too. :)
Funny you mention it Welsh Rabbit, I thought auf AvE's "Just a little tabby tap TAP.", when he hammered the gear cover back in.
Thanks for the video, nice simple fix. Gotta love 'em.
ik heb me net eerste doorvoeder gekocht dus nog niks aan de hand maar fijn om te zien hoe het moet indien het toch eens mis loopt
Behalve een top meubelmaker ben je ook nog een handige hersteller.Ik kijk steeds uit naar je volgende video. Bedankt voor de leerrijke filmpjes.
F38 Felder powerfeed. Have the same one and mine leaked oil from a bad seal within the first year. Felder is a fair machine but theres lots off little engineering failures like this with there machines.
Brilliant. The only question mark for me is the grease and its potential to gum up over time with saw dust.
It had white grease originally, so I sprayed some back on. Considering this one has been running almost daily for nearly 4 years, the dust build up was reasonably low imo.
Timothy Wilmots Makes sense. 👍🏼
Dam, your parents must be proud! Were not even related, and Im proud of you. LOL!
Thanks again!
❤
Thanks for fixing
👍
Great machinery...
Salut Timothy, merci pour vos vidéos, je vous souhaite à vous ainsi qu'à votre famille de belles fêtes de fin d'année et prospérité dans vos entreprises futures en 2018 @ très bientôt :-)
Merci beaucoup, et bonne fêtes à vous aussi!
Happy Holiday's Tim
Happy Holidays Kriss
inspiring
This contraption worked differently from how I assumed it would be working.
GRACIAS
La partie qui me ferait le plus peur si j'avais un tel atelier : l'entretient du matériel... ^^
Bien joué !
I hope Felder techs see this - the engineering team must have had an off day when they decided to use those crummy screws. BTW Did you consider changing out the other screw?
Looking back I should have, but I put it back in with loctite before trying to fix the other. So I didn't yet know I was going to do the tapping etc...
Engineers know that coarse threads hold better in cast iron than machined screws.
Well, they should also have considered that a shallow hole will not hold. Coarse thread or not.
You truly are a master of your craft. Do you speak English?
I do, also Dutch, French and a bit of German
Oops !!! Hum where did the screw go.
Bonne année et mais mes meilleurs voeux 2018
De même
Il n’aurais pas était préférable de refaire un trou et de changer l’autre vis qui tiens l’autre ressort?
bonjour
moi j'ai eu le mème problème sur la F 38
Good"
Felder is chinise Power feeder ?
What kind of project did you do at the end of the video?
I was making solid oak drawers, here I was making the groove for the bottom panel.
Where will you use these boxes later? What do you use as a material for the bottom of boxes, plywood?
Four years later, we all want to know if that repair did the trick. My guess it didn't. Two springs moving back and forth is just too much for one screw to handle.
Well, now I see why they are expensive.
Shoulda bought a maggi
I would expect a more robust design from Felder.
Und ich dachte Felder ist Qualität... 🤔 so eine kleine Schraube ... 😩
Hay , onkle tim
Hey Lena
Timothy Wilmots joepi hoe gaat het met jean
Lol wtf.. not the only solution.. how do you think they put it together
They have factory jigs to spread the springs for rapid assembly, the rest was pretty straightforward.
And when those tiny threads shear off that machine is done
I don't think so, originally it had no threads, it was just tiny screws screwed directly into the aluminium with no threads, barely 5mm deep. It was deemed to fail. I tapped a hole 3x deeper. If the original screws lasted 3 years, this new one should go forever.
Nah, you just drill it out again and use something like a helicoil.
Don't blow off shavings, they may fly where you don''t want it... better hoover them with a vacuum