My grandfather was supposed to serve on Thresher on April 7th, but didn't get his orders until April 10th, the day it sank. He then went on to serve on the USS Jack shortly after its launch, where he was stationed until the end of 66, months before the ship was commissioned.
I work for the company that built the thresher. There are reminders all over the damn building and people walking around with a 129 sticker. Took me months to find out the 129 stood for the casualties on the boat.
It’s not the company’s fault that a valve froze and didn’t allow water to jettison from a ballast tank….isnt that what happened? Stop beating yourselves up about it.
You would much rather that than someone like Boeing. I was on submarines and it helps you sleep really well knowing the track record of our submarine fleet and how reliable they are and how well we operate them.
The Scorpion’s wreck is interesting in that unlike the Thresher, large chunks of her are still largely intact, which seems to indicate that she was partially flooded already when she approached crush depth.
RE: the USS Thresher: the Navy BOI noted several serious issues with the overhaul work done by the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard; specifically poor brazed joints, a switch installed backwards, and other issues.
100%, notice how there is no bacterial growth or really any type of life growing on the hull lol...the Titanic is deeper and has tons of metal eating bacteria all over it
A glow in dark wreck for sure. USS Thresher and Tinosa were both defective in design and should have been scrapped or never built, but it was the cold war. These men perished in an undeclared war. USS Thresher was a comedy of errors resulting tragedy. Scorpion was gross negligence.
That is utter BS. It was gross negligence by the Dept of the Navy. I spoke to the Trieste Capt, after it was found. It was an own goal.@@johngrussing8054
This is very interesting footage from the 1980s. The first thing that strikes me is the condition of the wreck after over two decades. The absence of the usual encrustation might indicate a leak of radiation which prevented micro-organisms to grow on the wreck. Only speculation, of course, but that may account for what we see here. Any info of that kind would still be classified.
It's very deep, not a lot of "growing" things there due to no sun light penetrating that deep. As well as water is a powerful radiation absorber/shield. Thats why you can happily swim in a pool where nuclear waste is stored just inches from it without taking damage. So there is no way your theory is correct.
If only they’d used a modern ROV to get a look inside the open hatch of Scorpion’s torpedo room, they could confirm or disprove an internal explosion. If they haven’t, it’s because they don’t want to know. And if they have, they’re certainly not going to tell us anytime soon.
And this amazing footage was paid for by viewers not like you. Kids in the DMV had to eat apple sauce and plain oatmeal for school lunches until the early 90's. No BS!
It’s just too bad around the world. We can’t put our heads together and build vessels that can easily handle the depths of the Mariana trench so that we could explore the ocean peacefully. We have done great things for aviation in less than 200 years just think what we could do for the ocean if we put our heads together.
We've already been down there a couple times. There's nothing down there, just water. No fish no crustaceans, just water and darkness. The dude who did the titanic movie went down there, there's a good docu on here about it. Nothing going on at that depth
Wir sollten auch mal über das Wort Fortschritt bachdenken Für mich bedeutet Fortschritt nicht gleich besser sondern in den 60 Jahren die ich jetzt lebe war alles was man als Fortschritt gepriesen hat ein.riesen Rückschritt Der Mensch wird imner abhängiger von Dingen die er gar nicht braucht Die gesamte Infrastruktur ist viel Störungsanfälliger geworden und jede kleine Störung hat viel größere Auswirkungen die wird besonders bei der Digitalisierung sehr deutlich und wir alle werden diesen ,, Fortschritt " bitter und teuer bezahlen müssen und das wird viele Millionen Menschenleben kosten
I'm pretty sure the us gov isn't going to be cool with James Cameron dropping his little torpedo sub down to see the scorpion concidering there's nuclear warheads still in it. I'm sure they've been back and seen it but us normies we don't get to see that footage
@@richardpickles6026 Robert Ballard used looking for the titanic to cover looking at the site of the thresher. We didn’t want to draw suspicion to Soviets. They wanted to make sure the sub reactor was stored properly and not emitting radiation from it at the site
@@jlo7770 actually the government wants to do a annual inspection of the site to make sure it’s safe and not releasing any radioactive materials from the reactor. If they can do it on someone else’s dime. They will. And the site is not forbidden to visit. Only forbidden to disturb.
@@maegenyoungs2591 well then they've been wanting for a very long time.. the reality is the us navy has rov's now, they don't need civilians with special equipment to inspect stuff on the bottom of the ocean. 40 years ago yes they did, today they don't and id assume that site is offlimits. It might not be listed as offlimits but when a nuclear-powered sub surfaces out of nowhere and a rib shows up with dudes with machine-guns you get the point that it's off-limits. And if you don't think that the us gov does that stuff... well you're sadly mistaken, there's a nuclear reactor and nuclear warheads down there, until they're beyond use/repair people won't be going down there without the US'S supervision. When they're leaking radiation they'll be 100% off-limits which given the amount of time they've been submerged they most likely are leaking radiation. They're broken arrows, and any country in the world would benefit from having them, except maybe the British whom I'm sure have identical weapons. I just think there's a very likely reason we don't have better video of this wreck and it has to do with those nuclear weapons...
How is the radiation obvious? If you're referring to the visual quality, well welcome to 1985 VHS tech. Also, water is an excellent radiation blocker. You can literally swim in reactor cooling pools with active rods just 15 feet below you and be perfectly fine because the water absorbs the radiation before it gets to you. Same for these wrecks. They monitor them to make sure the reactors don't break open but they're not pumping radiation into the oceans.
The Scorpion’s wreck is interesting in that unlike the Thresher, large chunks of her are still largely intact, which seems to indicate that she was partially flooded already when she approached crush depth.
I've always found it extremely intriguing how the weapons shipping hatch is open, the hull seems to be intact in shape, yet the ER is telescoped into the forward compartment, almost like the hull sheared at AMR2 or at the RC. Definitely more questions than answers
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My grandfather was supposed to serve on Thresher on April 7th, but didn't get his orders until April 10th, the day it sank. He then went on to serve on the USS Jack shortly after its launch, where he was stationed until the end of 66, months before the ship was commissioned.
I work for the company that built the thresher. There are reminders all over the damn building and people walking around with a 129 sticker.
Took me months to find out the 129 stood for the casualties on the boat.
It’s not the company’s fault that a valve froze and didn’t allow water to jettison from a ballast tank….isnt that what happened? Stop beating yourselves up about it.
@deplorablelibertarian dude I'm 30......I wasint even a sperm cell when this happened. Trust me I'm not beating myself up lol 🤣😂😆
You would much rather that than someone like Boeing. I was on submarines and it helps you sleep really well knowing the track record of our submarine fleet and how reliable they are and how well we operate them.
@@adrianislemons alot of navy men said they wanted Electric Boats product way more than competition
All this news about Titanic and then Titan brought me here. Deep ocean gives me anxiety for sure. Brave people being on submarines and submersibles.
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@Chris-wt4qj what was the depth the Thresher had landed?
@Chris-wt4qj
Was it Robert Ballard who found the Thresher - then found Titanic ?
@@schumbo8324 approximately 10,000 feet you got a check out the video on the USS Samuel B Roberts she rest at a depth of about 18,700 feet
Yes he did.
Fair winds and following seas all my brothers of the deep
The Scorpion’s wreck is interesting in that unlike the Thresher, large chunks of her are still largely intact, which seems to indicate that she was partially flooded already when she approached crush depth.
RE: the USS Thresher: the Navy BOI noted several serious issues with the overhaul work done by the Portsmouth Naval Shipyard; specifically poor brazed joints, a switch installed backwards, and other issues.
Poor design of air valves/screens in the MBT system, they iced over attempting to blow
Looks like they’re doing a soil type sampling for radiation??
Nah they are placing censors around to detect the Russians if they come near it
100%, notice how there is no bacterial growth or really any type of life growing on the hull lol...the Titanic is deeper and has tons of metal eating bacteria all over it
That’s what I’m assuming.
Well I don’t think they are checking how a vineyard would do on the land.
@@Jordizzanthink of the potential of an underwater vineyard tho
Impressive
1985 is when they were discovered.
The visual is stunning after so much time...would be infinitely better and informative with audio.
I really really don’t like propellers/ screws under water for some reason.
You must have submechanaphobia then
What do you mean? Like it makes you uneasy?
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A glow in dark wreck for sure. USS Thresher and Tinosa were both defective in design and should have been scrapped or never built, but it was the cold war. These men perished in an undeclared war. USS Thresher was a comedy of errors resulting tragedy. Scorpion was gross negligence.
Scorpion was purposefully given a short overhaul to see how a boat would hold up without all its proper maintenance! Total bullshit!
Scorpion was sunk by the Soviets
That is utter BS. It was gross negligence by the Dept of the Navy. I spoke to the Trieste Capt, after it was found. It was an own goal.@@johngrussing8054
Somebody fart?
This is very interesting footage from the 1980s. The first thing that strikes me is the condition of the wreck after over two decades. The absence of the usual encrustation might indicate a leak of radiation which prevented micro-organisms to grow on the wreck. Only speculation, of course, but that may account for what we see here. Any info of that kind would still be classified.
It's possible that the material of the hull inhibits marine growth in some way
These are also VERY deep wrecks.
There's no marine life because of the depth. The Titanic has similar attributes, with corrosion being the primary degredation.
@@edwardpate6128 Not as deep as the Titanic though.
It's very deep, not a lot of "growing" things there due to no sun light penetrating that deep.
As well as water is a powerful radiation absorber/shield. Thats why you can happily swim in a pool where nuclear waste is stored just inches from it without taking damage.
So there is no way your theory is correct.
Radiation samples.
If only they’d used a modern ROV to get a look inside the open hatch of Scorpion’s torpedo room, they could confirm or disprove an internal explosion. If they haven’t, it’s because they don’t want to know. And if they have, they’re certainly not going to tell us anytime soon.
A rushed retrofit.
this is so cool 👌😤👌
""THE-U.S.NAVY IS TO BLAME FOR-WHATHAPPENED TO U.S.S. SCORPION 🦂""!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And this amazing footage was paid for by viewers not like you. Kids in the DMV had to eat apple sauce and plain oatmeal for school lunches until the early 90's. No BS!
Wee're those commercial fishing pots?
Lol no. They're for scientific research. Checking to see if there's any mutant fish like the pupyats in chernobyl.. radioactive puppies
It’s just too bad around the world. We can’t put our heads together and build vessels that can easily handle the depths of the Mariana trench so that we could explore the ocean peacefully. We have done great things for aviation in less than 200 years just think what we could do for the ocean if we put our heads together.
We've already been down there a couple times. There's nothing down there, just water. No fish no crustaceans, just water and darkness. The dude who did the titanic movie went down there, there's a good docu on here about it. Nothing going on at that depth
Wir sollten auch mal über das Wort Fortschritt bachdenken Für mich
bedeutet Fortschritt nicht
gleich besser sondern in den 60 Jahren die ich jetzt
lebe war alles was man als
Fortschritt gepriesen hat ein.riesen Rückschritt Der Mensch wird imner
abhängiger von Dingen die
er gar nicht braucht Die gesamte Infrastruktur ist viel Störungsanfälliger
geworden und jede kleine
Störung hat viel größere
Auswirkungen die wird
besonders bei der
Digitalisierung sehr deutlich
und wir alle werden diesen
,, Fortschritt " bitter und teuer bezahlen müssen und
das wird viele Millionen
Menschenleben kosten
rip titan
We need to go back now that we have better camera technology, this is painful to watch.. James Cameron would do this justice
I'm pretty sure the us gov isn't going to be cool with James Cameron dropping his little torpedo sub down to see the scorpion concidering there's nuclear warheads still in it. I'm sure they've been back and seen it but us normies we don't get to see that footage
Wasn't it Cameron who found both thresher and scorpio ?
@@richardpickles6026 Robert Ballard used looking for the titanic to cover looking at the site of the thresher.
We didn’t want to draw suspicion to Soviets. They wanted to make sure the sub reactor was stored properly and not emitting radiation from it at the site
@@jlo7770 actually the government wants to do a annual inspection of the site to make sure it’s safe and not releasing any radioactive materials from the reactor.
If they can do it on someone else’s dime. They will.
And the site is not forbidden to visit.
Only forbidden to disturb.
@@maegenyoungs2591 well then they've been wanting for a very long time.. the reality is the us navy has rov's now, they don't need civilians with special equipment to inspect stuff on the bottom of the ocean. 40 years ago yes they did, today they don't and id assume that site is offlimits. It might not be listed as offlimits but when a nuclear-powered sub surfaces out of nowhere and a rib shows up with dudes with machine-guns you get the point that it's off-limits. And if you don't think that the us gov does that stuff... well you're sadly mistaken, there's a nuclear reactor and nuclear warheads down there, until they're beyond use/repair people won't be going down there without the US'S supervision. When they're leaking radiation they'll be 100% off-limits which given the amount of time they've been submerged they most likely are leaking radiation.
They're broken arrows, and any country in the world would benefit from having them, except maybe the British whom I'm sure have identical weapons. I just think there's a very likely reason we don't have better video of this wreck and it has to do with those nuclear weapons...
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Out of focus, murky water. nothing to see here, move along.
Its from the 80s what do you expect
@@bloodgush25idk didn’t they have 16mm at least? Lol
This video was degraded intentionally i feel
At the time this was brand new tech and it wasn’t created by the navy
The radiation is very obvious in the film footage... this is in our ocean folks...
How is the radiation obvious? If you're referring to the visual quality, well welcome to 1985 VHS tech. Also, water is an excellent radiation blocker. You can literally swim in reactor cooling pools with active rods just 15 feet below you and be perfectly fine because the water absorbs the radiation before it gets to you. Same for these wrecks. They monitor them to make sure the reactors don't break open but they're not pumping radiation into the oceans.
Q, Did they recover any bodies at all or remains from both subs. 😥😥⚓⚓😥😥🦘🦘👌👌✌✌👍👍
think there the same as war graves
When oxygen got compressed, it ignited so they got bbq in 1 minute before the water got in😂
Yes on Thresher, no on Scorpion
@@brianbaird1503i can not find this info anywhere 😮
Wow how do you know this?
Can you elaborate on what they’ve recovered on thresher?
No bodies, what the Abyss received, it absorbs and keeps.
The Scorpion’s wreck is interesting in that unlike the Thresher, large chunks of her are still largely intact, which seems to indicate that she was partially flooded already when she approached crush depth.
I've always found it extremely intriguing how the weapons shipping hatch is open, the hull seems to be intact in shape, yet the ER is telescoped into the forward compartment, almost like the hull sheared at AMR2 or at the RC. Definitely more questions than answers