How To Choose The Right Bike Wheels? | EMTB Wheel Guide
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- With the debate between wheel sizes raging on for some time now, it seems that less attention has been paid to the actual mechanics of the EMTB & MTB wheels themselves! From the construction methods, measurements and materials there's a whole heap of factors to look at when choosing your next EMTB wheelset!
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What do you look for when choosing a set of EMTB wheels!? Let us know your tips down below! 👇
Nice DT SWISS Ad
I love when people talk about compliance, more compliance equals more fatigue, if you want more compliance out of your 36 spoke wheel you can adjust the spoke tension. The fact is 36 spoke wheels are stronger, also well made hand built wheels are better every time.
I disagree with 28 spokes giving the same strength as 32 or 36. After two rear wheels on my levo (first original then rebuilt with thicker spokes and stronger rim) i went 32 spokes, zero issues since. I might break a spoke sometimes caused by obsticles in terrain. But then i still have 31 left for the rest of the ride. In front i havent had any issues with stock setup 28 spoke wheel. So if rear wheel brakes or i wanna upgrade. I think til even go 36 on the rear, cause why not...
Certainly if comparing like-for-like then yes, more spokes will provide more strength. Steve was explaining that in certain cases, wheel manufacturers may use fewer spokes but increase strength in other areas, such as the spoke diameter or rim. It's great to see quite a bit of variation on the market now, and the option that people can choose these things.
I run Mavic E-Deemax on my kenevo & Mavic E-Xa on my levo. Love the sound of their hubs & their wheels have NEVER failed me.
I've just ordered a set of these as an upgrade. Good to hear they're decent.
The HIGHLIGHT of the DT Swiss wheels (hubs) is the RATCHET system!!! And in the Hybrids the steel ratchet cogs on the steel freehub! Compared to the other brands this is the real advantage of DT in terms of durability for an eBike (IMO)... I was hoping to see more of this comparison and how forces are distributed BETTER on a ratchet system compared to a pawl system, specially beneficial on eBikes!!!
Yep, full steel ratchet and freehub all day on heavy duty ebike. I blew out my pawled HG Alu splined hub that came on bike in under a month. Well over 1.5 years of heavy use (4-5 rides/week) with zero issues on DT 350 Hybrid. I don’t even mind the lower 24 point engagement compared to higher engaged hubs on other bikes. DT Hybrid the way to go on ebikes in my opinion, especially if heavier rider on heavy duty ebike
I'd be interested to know more about the different freehub interfaces (HG , XD , microspline) , which manufacturers offer steel bodies and alloy carriers on cassettes and finally , which combinations of these are the best for EMTB use.
There's a video idea for you.
You forgot to mention the 1501 HX wheels (aluminium rim). Bargain wheel set 👍🏽
Guys i tried out the Mavic E-deemax s version, great wheels and one of the must have on my list if the the Stock wheelset ist broken.
I wish you could show us a great Test, same Bike different Wheelmanufactures.
Same for brakes and other stuff.
ive just bought a set of mavic E dee max wheels 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂
what happened to the OG HX1501 Hybrid? thought that was the top of the line aluminum 240hub dtswiss wheel?
My Newmen freehub fitted to my Cube ebike has been destroyed after six months use. The pawels are ok but the pawel seats have become squashed and deformed and for the life of me i coudnt find a replacement so i bought a full Hope Fortus rear wheel. Steer clear of pawel type freehubs and seek out the ratchet type.
So what spokes are these wheels running exactly and where are they available?
My favourite on-line outlet lists these wheels (rear only) at $500 and the only info there is this:
E-bike specific straight pull spokes are built with a 3-cross pattern
Then DT lists "Alpine" spokes as e-bike spokes, but they are J-bend...
(I'm not affiliated at all but ...) I bought myself a set of the hx 1501 aluminium from CRC for only £350. Proper 240 ratchet hub, bargain! I'm not an e-bike rider but thought they would be good for longevity
I jumped on that deal too, shipped all the way over to Australia. They’re great on my levo 🤘
On the 'Teal' 20" wheel bike, what is the lowest seat the top of the seat will go
I keep braking hubs over and over. I just switched ti a double ratchet sun ringle bubba hub with it set up for as strength instead of gighwr engagement and i just blew outnthe ratchet syatem .. please recommend the strongest around becuase i has went through multiple higher end hubs . Im thinking of maybe teying a kris king hub
The main reason for longevity for a wheel is equal spoke tension (specially on the drive side) this is the main reason that hand build wheels by a good wheelbuider outperform machined wheels.
Regardless of how the wheel was initially built, it's important to be sure to have a good wheel builder give them a once over, and tension and true as required throughout the wheel's life. It's worth noting that every wheel from DT Swiss is built by hand, DT Swiss choose to do this for a number of reasons 👉 embn.me/DTHandBuilt
@@embn hmm... I kind of doubt that. They do on the premium wheels for sure, but I corrected some new to reasonably new cheaper to midrange wheels where the tensions are out of 20% range. And I think 10% is a minimum for an equal tensioned wheel.
does the profile of the rim make much difference ?
like how some have a web each side inside the inner layer eg profile on DT swiss E593 vs E512 ? ( disregard the width difference )
Onyx rear hub with shimano 12 speed cassette and chain. This is the setup every single ebike should have - Instant engagement, slight elasticity when torqueing hard on crankarms, and the ability to shift while under load. Its fabulous to ride.
Rims should be considered a wear item, they are going to break. If you must have carbon, get a set of Santa Cruz reserve rims - buy once cry once, best warranty in the industry. Otherwise, any good brand AL rim will work fine until you break it.
Source: a bike mechanic in Moab
Cheers Steve
So what about eyelets? I have seen somewhere, that a good wheel should have individual inserts instead of just a hole. That allows the nipple to slightly rotate, which eliminates the bend at the very end of the spoke. And that's where spokes break ALL THE TIME.
If you observe your wheel (unless it has eyelets), you will see that there is a bend at the very end. The nipple comes out 90 degrees from the wheel, then the spoke slightly bends towards either side of the flange.
This creates extra stress. And that's where the spokes break.
Thoughts ?
most modern mtb rims are machined to have the nipple seat angled to allow the nipple to face the hub flange. look at a symmetrical rim - the holes are centered in the inner diameter, but the holes in the rim bed are offset to allow the nipple to be inserted at an angle to match the spoke angle. the nipple seat area is angled as well. DT also makes the pro head nipples that are installed with a steel washer that allows the same benefit as an eyeleted rim.
Making sure they put the Tyre rotation the right way around
This says very little about how to choose wheels. Its a load of technical waffle showcasing DT Swiss ones without even really explaining what the differences are.
Martin you nailed it....it's really a commercial for DT! I've a Chris King hub guy for 25+ years and they have never failed me...
This video feels a bit like a DT infomercial. Too bad you guys didn't bring in other brands. For example, HUNT has an AMAZING emtb wheel set that is insanely tough... only cost around $600 for a set and there are many other brands. Still a good video, just a bit too single brand focused with no comparisons.
Hi Jeral, yes we were paid to show these wheels, and we make sure we declare this for transparency. However, the brand does not have any input in the content we create.
Yes, there are other great brands producing some awesome wheels, Steve is just demonstrating the features that you can expect to see on wheels that have been designed around the needs for EMTB riding. You can draw comparisons from this video to any other brand you like.
Finally, an open acknowledgement of under engineered ebike hubs. It has been awful. Perhaps now just the top spec models will have capable hubs.
Well said sir - my wife and I still have our gboxx Nicolai’s although a bit too heavy at our age but their back wheels are more akin to motorcycles none of this 3000 degrees of engagement and screaming bee free hubs - I’m waiting on the gearbox ebikes to start coming through - that said I do fancy a set of zipp moto3 rims
Just get Hope Fortus wheels. End of debate.
1501 are only 140kg system weight, alu 1700 150kg
the title of this video is misleading. we all know the quality of DT Swiss....this is more of an advertisement for them than a guide to ALL wheels available to us.
Hi Jenifer, yes we were paid to show these wheels, and we make sure we declare this for transparency. However, the brand does not have any input in the content we create.
Yes, there are other great brands producing some awesome wheels, Steve is just demonstrating the features that you can expect to see on wheels that have been designed around the needs for EMTB riding. You can draw comparisons from this video to any other brand you like.
It appears that this channel is slowly but surely turning into an advertising platform for a few select brands. This is great for the bank account of the channels employees, but totally crap for the viewers.
This is just an advert😒