Wow guys I have to say I've done many emergency break aways while on an oiler. This was a complete embarrassment. I'm sure the higher officers were not pleased. I really miss these operations.
Higher officers? Don't you mean senior officers? And these operations. Don't you mean evolutions? Are you sure you've ever been involved in an unrep? How about a refueling evolution?
@@shortchange26having been Conning Officer on both sides of an underway replenishment was pretty interesting. Being on the sending ship was fairly straightforward maintaining course and speed, being on the receiving ship was challenging, to say the least, the approach and maintaining distance especially if the weather was a little rough could be interesting.
@@shortchange26 I was on the USS Canisteo as a BM3 Sta. 3 starboard unrep station crew chief AO-99........1977-1978. We NEVER referred this activity as an "evolution". The officers logged it in as an evolution but never used that wording to each other or the crew. That included Capt. Martin. For you to be butthurt over terminology and accusing @benjamincooper3243 as a liar or doubting his comment because its not up to your standards of communication shows a lack of knowledge on your part. Were you in the Navy and serve on an Auxiliary Oiler or were you just a receiver like on a tin can? Either way you were being a dick.
As a Boatswains mate in the United States Navy for 20 years. And a Boatswain's mate with MSC for 10 years. That's the worst break away I've ever seen in my life.
With the exception if you lose stearing and they just take the whole rig with them.
Cargo Mate on an oiler here. That was a terribly executed emergency breakaway and poorly handled by both ships. My teams have never screwed the pooch like that.
I was on the WAVE KNIGHT 1958 we never stuffed up like this pack idjits.
That was not an emergency breakaway. It was a screwup.
I spent 10 years in the Navy, served aboard the USS Cushing DD-985 from Jan 1986 to Mar 1990. I was always the forward phone talker from station to bridge. Every break away was an emergency break away for training. That looked a complete f#$k up. Also, what is with all the running rust on the ship. The Navy has really gotten a lot more soft.
Hey, fellow Cushing sailor here. Still working for the navy. If this was filmed during covid, ships on deployment wouldn't be allowed to pull in a lot of the time, so they would end up looking pretty rough.
At first glance I was wondering if that was a U.S. Naval vessel, because it looked like a cast off rust bucket.
Been on both sides of the unrep and this was sloppier than I ever remember. We did practice ending each UNREO with an emergency breakaway.
Brings back memories from the Pacific Ocean. Was a Master Helmsman & a Gunners Mate on the USS Reasoner. 1989 - 93
Served 2 years on Lang. I was an Operations Specialist and occasional Conning Officer. Frigates were both fun and rough.
In the Navy we practice so that when the event happens it is instinct, which is actually training. Sometimes during an actual emergency instinct is all you have.
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I was on USS FORRESTAL CVA 59 ,we did Mediterranean cruise. Real neat both ships at same pace. Worked in ships armor, we keep track of ships magazines temps.
I was stationed on a DDG and this is giving me flash backs of what happened when our unrep was screwed up. I saw a wire cut into a leg of someone. Not pretty.
I've done many unreps, looked like the recovery system on the oiler failed, or human error.
Uhhh… stand by while span wire de-tensions.. hey Chief it’s already detentioned!! Not sure exactly what happened here. I’m a watch stander steering. But looks like a winch/RAM went down. Everything looked good til the rig went back out after being pulled in. Either way rigs are never supposed to be in the water like that. Somebody got their asses chewed for that and likely along with a loss of confidence/reprimand. Wonder if they used the wire cutter. Looks like the DDG did to get the span wire away from them.
Yeeeaaaaah, woopsie!
Having RAS'd a few times with US ships of different types and watched some videos on here, it always seems to me that they always have far too many people in the Dump Area. In the RN, once you have done your job, you cleared out of the danger area. The more people in the Dump the more chance of accidents and injuries. Just my view form experience.
When I was on the uss Seattle we did emergency breakaways all the time. We got pissed when refueling hose goes in the drink.
it's why it's practiced every time it's done. Yes, someone will have to explain this mess.
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Wow! Served two tours on AFS ships in the Pacific. Can’t believe what a mess this was! What the heck was the problem retrieving the fuel rig?
The outbound saddle wire has most likely parted, hence why the probe and saddle aren’t inboard. If that’s the case I think they’ve done the only thing they could.
As a retired BMC this is totally unsat.Looks like someone needs more training
The only thing I can figure other than shear incompetence is the delivery ship broke 1 or more saddle whips on the hose rig. Particularly the #1 saddle whip, which is furthest from the delivery ship, closest o the probe assembly and it used to pull the rig in tight before detensioning the spanwire. Just my 2 cents.
Worst breakaway drill I've ever seen.
In a real (needed) emergency breakaway, everything (wires, hoses, pennants, etc) is slacked and literally dumped (at which time everything is hauled in at top winch(s) speed) and the (generally) receiving vessel books at flank if it can, but that depends on the situation, i.e., who called for it and why. The real deal puts many personnel in great danger and it is quite possible to fowl the running gear with hoses and wires. They usually occur due to failures of propulsion, steering, plant (elec), communications and whatever is completely unexpected; the casualties can be on either vessel and equally dangerous to both ships engaged in the operation. This was a E Breakaway FUBAR for sure.
What you're saying is correct. What you failed to mention is at the end of an evolution we always trained an emergency break away.
@@shortchange26 You are correct, for most evolutions, and this was clearly the case of a practice gone awry.
Yep. Watched an emergency breakaway from an AOR early this past spring. Half way across the atlantic, Frigate was in workups for deployment. We were sitting ther eon the AOR and the Chief Mate was going "I just know they're going to do an emergency breakway." Sure enough they did. Fuel flow gets shut down, I think hoses drained as much as possible, hoses yanked back as fast as possible, and then the spanwire brought in as quickly as practical.
I've done many unreps , I've never seen anything like this. Who made the call to detention the rig ? It seems like a winch failure. I miss those days. I was on two unreported ships, a AE and a A O R.
They practice emergency breakaways every time they execute and UNREP or FUELREP. That way they are pros already if they really need to do one.
What a mess. Painting at the bow overhang for that RAS crew.
Been there done that more times than i can remember. USS Long Beach. Shit happens fast!
The last real cruiser. Always admired your ship. I don't think I ever saw her while aboard Truxtun.
This is why you drill. Looks like equipment failure since they apparently had trouble retracting the fuel line. As Forrest Gump prophetically advised: It happens.
I watched many happen and I was always freaking amazing 👏
Damn !! That was slower than molasses in December. If that was real, a explosive charge would have cut the main line and the rig would have hit the drink. Bt the time the ships whistle quit blowing, the oil would have been started to be cut off and the rig getting ready to withdraw.
AO 52and AO105 unreped hundreds of ships on Yankee Station two emergency breakaways I can remember
I used to be an ABW for MSC. What ship was the supply ship? 😁😁
You have to know that oiler captain got a letter of reprimand in his file. That probably means the shit rolled downhill from there too. The DDG was steady on course all the way to breakaway. Just lucky they didn''t have to get divers in the water to cut away cable around the screws and rudders. The DDG steered to port as soon as they could and got out of the way of the oiler but even after the breakaway fuckup the oiler failed to heave to port like anybody that knows that is what you are suppose to do to keep a loose line away from your ship and have the space between the line in the water and the ship in order to safely spool the line back in, no matter how you have to do it, even manually with a capstan. This is totally fuckup procedure by the oiler.
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Actually, it’s hard to see with the videos perspective, but the DDG initially ran to port while the oiler spooled out the wire to almost max distance. Luckily all gear was recovered and no divers needed. Just another day out at sea.
I was thinking the same when I saw that line in the water. Wow 😯 thanks for the explanation. The Oiler Captain and crew were lucky.
I reported to DDG-17 in 1973 as a full first class seaman. I was assigned to the Bosun division because U had not been tested yet. I got to know the ship well. I stood every kind of watch, even rotated driving the ship. Once I finished testing I had the second highest engineering score, second onlt to the chief engineer who was a WO4. they quickly changed my rate and placed me in main engine control. I spent 3 years of solid sea duty and got out. I spent another 40 years as a OCS Lease operator in the Gulf of Mexico and my last jurisdiction was 17 production platforms and 42 employees with a major oil company.
Looks like a retriever wire parted or possible winch failure. I doubt very, very seriously the Captain got anything in his file due to this...the rig captain possibly did get reprimanded if the retriever wire wasn't maintained/inspected. And obviously, this wasn't a real emergency but, as is common,. a drill which is practically done after every refueling evolution. So, the long delay isn't strange if there was a new rig captain and/or they were trying to determine the problem with the retrieving winch/wire. No one seems to have panicked and the span wire would bring it all back once released and winched back in. Oiler might steer to port after DDG gets well clear...IF they didn't have a ship being replenished, or participating in the emergency breakaway drill as well, on their Starboard side simultaneously...not at all uncommon. Can't see in video if span wire is comin back or not...If span wire winch was operating normally, the span wire was being winched back in the moment it hit the water...it would take a few moments until the weak link reached the probe and start pullin that up and out of the water.
no need to panic here...just a little messy due to equipment failure/parted retriever wire most likely. I was a rig captain on replenishment ships...not in the engine room. Kudo's for your success and work in the oil patch.
I conned about six unreps on frigates. That was bad before the rig went into the water; pretty unsat evolution.
Being the Conning Officer on the receiving side of an underway replenishment is an exercise in extreme concentration.
Why the danger signal from both vessels before anything went on?
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Thank god it was a drill. But that has got to be embarrassing for the Fleet Oiler. Someone’s head is gonna roll for this.
It's practice right to get it right,, right
Looks like a mechanical failure onboard the supply ship. The last section of hose should have been vertical, inboard with the probes pointing down to the deck and the jackstay slack before the supply ship gives the bat signal to slip. It looks a lot worse than it is, and it will give the deck crew something to do once everything is inboard, lol.
I did 25 years Royal Navy, followed by 18 years Royal Fleet Auxiliary, so I've seen this from both sides.
You think this is bad, try working with the Belgian Navy. The only time I threw rigging set tools at a receiving ship. 😂😂😂😂 They were dangerous.
Extremely slow Emergency breakaway. I’ve seen aircraft carriers respond faster
Poorly executed emergency breakaway drill for sure.
I have seen faster breakaways with geriatrics copulating.
In a previous life (RNZN) we completed all RAS with an emergency breakaway.
It took way to long to complete. It should take less than one minute to disengaged the hoses and detention and release the span wire.
Great Video
Wouldn’t call that an ‘Emergency Break-away’ by any definition. Looks more like a normal departure - somewhat mundane at that.
It is NOT normal for the probe to be in the water. Looks like they had a retriever winch/wire failure and couldn't bring it back. In which case, you have to wait for the span wire to be tripped and have the weak link pull the probe back up to the deck.
I think the operator in the booth needs to be replaced! He or she is dangerous!!! 🤦
Nah , surely that was just test of the horn for a Breakaway not an actual break away...lol...embarrassment. I was waiting for the destroyers breakaway tune. Nothing like watching a Charles F Adams destroyer peeling off playing "Big wheels keep on turning" on the 1MC as she leans over at full speed......
slow and clumsy? EX RAN
Really poor performance (and I spent years as a CG Department Head).
Did a bunch of these on the Blue Ridge & Rentz - russian ships would cause emergency breakaways
At 3:20 minutes, what is the projectile in the water towards destroyer?
That was the wire connecting the ships together that snapping back after it was finally released.
Taking an AWEFUL long time 🤔
What's with water coming out of 2 holes on the side of the destroyer ship?
Looks like a wench birdcaged. I cringed as I watch the fueling probe in the water.
I would hate too see the real thing.
What a screw up!
I've seen worse though
It was a routine emergency breakaway drill with poor performance from the sending ship's winch operator. The span wire was initially slacked but failed to remain slack so the pelican hook could be tripped. The hoses should have been retrieved and up alongside the ship when the span wire went on the water. Either there was a saddle winch failure or brain dead winch operator. Hoses shouldn't have touched the water on a routine evolution. Sloppy performance on sending ship. 2/5
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣What a raft
That’s not supposed to happen.
Days shapes are wrong Flag hoist questionable
Ball Diamond Ball...Restricted in maneuverability (international signal) which an unrep clearly qualifies. How is that wrong?
Supposed to be a Tack line between the Ball diamond ball & Supposed to fly Bravo while taking on fuel or ammunition
@@jonromero8249 good points…fueling was done tho, is a possible explanation for no bravo flag
wow, navy ships don't even have masts like that anymore or even anywhere to stand on deck, only russian federation ships still have masts lol. Its sad to see all these old destroyers sitting side by side in norfolk rusting away. r.i.p. old school ships were gonna miss you
Dude, this is an Arleigh Burke class destroyer. They're the cutting edge that the Navy is using right now...
@@eclipse2966 I like the Zumwalk Class,the Littoral Class the Freedom class and the independence class destroyers. the DDG class is awsome looking. when i beecome age and can serve that would be my choice
@@noahmizrahi9834 Freedom and Independence aren't destroyers; they're Littoral Combat Ships, which would be corvettes.
@@noahmizrahi9834 LOL, you have no idea what you're talking about and you should feel bad.
Both LCS classes displace about 2500 tons, which puts them squarely in the corvette category. They are too small to be destroyers and too small to even be considered frigates. The fact that they don't have NATO DDG designations is further proof they aren't even remotely considered destroyers.
Add to that the fact that all of the LCS class modules have been cancelled, they're also pretty useless since they can't do anything. That's why the US Navy is essentially retiring the class in favor of the FFG(X) program.
And since you clearly need some correction, "DDG" is not a class of ship; it's a NATO reporting category for a guided missile destroyer. The "DDG class" you're referring to is an Arleigh-Burke class guided missile destroyer. Fun fact: Arleigh-Burkes are almost too big to be called a destroyer, and would cleanly fit in the cruiser category.
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AMAZING HOW MUCH RUST CAN BE SEEN ON US NAVAL SHIPS. NOT THAT WAY BACK IN 1959-1962 blame it on Brandon!
thats because we used vanisol to spray on running rust to clean it up. Vanisol ,or similar products, are a serious pollutant...and aren't used anymore. So, yeah, more visible running rust...big deal. Biden had nothing to do with it, which is quite obvious.
6 years two deployments. They are all emergency break aways to keep it tight... train as you fight. Geez...
I can imagine the mood on the bridge of that destroyer!!!...the skipper was probably yelling all kinds of obscenities at the oiler crew for allowing that fuel rig fall into the water...giving it a chance to get caught in the screws of his ship!
That destroyer drafts about 30 ft, the carrier that is refueling it drafts 40 ft. Those hoses will never reach the screws.
I was on a ship in late 70's that had a loss of steering during an unrep and we did an real emergency breakaway, lines are cut and hoses and line do fall into the water. Maybe things have changed on emergency breakaways since then.
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'carrier'?