Liszt - Piano Concerto No. 3, S125a Op posth. (Jandó)

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  • @pietrolandri6081
    @pietrolandri6081 4 роки тому +76

    I think this concerto is so advanced that even Liszt got scared about it and couldn't figure out how to fine tune it and give it a rounded up final shape.
    And he eventually even forgot to handle it or - God knows - he tried but did not manage. Thus he never played it publicly.
    Pity because it is not a skeleton but a finished job. But he probably didn't feel it was.
    Just brainstorming......maybe story is different but we won't know
    The fact is that it's a wonderful concerto that could have been written easily 50 or 75 years later by someone without being judged a retro piece.
    But this someone should have been as good as Liszt and that's the problem.

  • @user-oz6kx5xu2t
    @user-oz6kx5xu2t 4 роки тому +151

    After years of listening to liszt I feel like he's uploaded some pieces

  • @thefredericchopin6581
    @thefredericchopin6581 4 роки тому +56

    This concerto is very forward-thinking. As someone else said in the comments, maybe that’s why he was scared or hesitant to finish it. I feel it’s interesting to note the similarities between the theme in the finale and S. 151. Definitely sounds like a cleaned up version of that. Overall, it’s a sublime concerto - shame he never finished it.

    • @douwemusic
      @douwemusic Рік тому +3

      Agreed, I was surprised to learn it was such an early work because of how much the beginning sounds like his late style

    • @ゆくちゃんLiszt
      @ゆくちゃんLiszt Рік тому

      @@user-lj1sc9bs4tさん、この曲のオーケストラ版は、どこで売っていますか?
      2台ピアノ版は、持っているんですけど…

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 11 місяців тому +1

      Repent and trust in Jesus. we deserve Hell for our sins. For example lying, lusing, saying God's name as a cuss word and stealing our just some examples of sin which we can all admit to doing at least one of those. For our sin we deserve death and Hell, but there is a way out. Repent anf trust in Jesus and you will be saved. Repentence is turning from sin. So repent and trust in Jesus. He will save you from Hell, and instead give you eternal life in Heaven.
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  • @guii8993
    @guii8993 2 роки тому +18

    the andante maybe is one of the most solid but imaginative ground breaking movements ever written in piano literature, structurally and musically in general, i cannot listen to it without sheding a tear and feeling it ripping out my heart, then bringing it back with those unending angelical passages; Maestro Franz, may you rest in the peace of the musical miracles you wrote.

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 11 місяців тому

      Repent and trust in Jesus. we deserve Hell for our sins. For example lying, lusing, saying God's name as a cuss word and stealing our just some examples of sin which we can all admit to doing at least one of those. For our sin we deserve death and Hell, but there is a way out. Repent anf trust in Jesus and you will be saved. Repentence is turning from sin. So repent and trust in Jesus. He will save you from Hell, and instead give you eternal life in Heaven.
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  • @nick__schlobohm-n8d
    @nick__schlobohm-n8d 4 роки тому +48

    11:20 sounds like a fragment of the theme from Liszt's sonata!

  • @jerry_moo
    @jerry_moo 4 роки тому +76

    This was composed in 1839? What a mature sound and style for Liszt at this point of time (besides Apparitions, of course)!

    • @user-lj1sc9bs4t
      @user-lj1sc9bs4t Рік тому +2

      自身の未来が乗り移った様な曲ですね

    • @ゆくちゃんLiszt
      @ゆくちゃんLiszt Рік тому

      @@user-lj1sc9bs4tさん、ものすごく綺麗な曲

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 11 місяців тому

      Repent and trust in Jesus. He's the only way. We deserve Hell because we've sinned. Lied, lusted stolen, etc. But God sent his son to die on the cross and rise out of the grave. We can receive forgiveness from Jesus. Repent and put your trust in him.
      John 3:16
      Romans 3:23❤😊❤

  • @ytyt3922
    @ytyt3922 4 роки тому +19

    Some new Liszt material! Thank you very much. As wonderful a discovery as the 3rd Mendelssohn concerto which is likewise almost unknown.

  • @Felix_Li_En
    @Felix_Li_En 4 роки тому +36

    Beautiful concerto ! Should be played more often !!

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 11 місяців тому +1

      Repent and trust in Jesus. we deserve Hell for our sins. For example lying, lusing, saying God's name as a cuss word and stealing our just some examples of sin which we can all admit to doing at least one of those. For our sin we deserve death and Hell, but there is a way out. Repent anf trust in Jesus and you will be saved. Repentence is turning from sin. So repent and trust in Jesus. He will save you from Hell, and instead give you eternal life in Heaven.
      John 3:16
      Romans 3:23😊❤

  • @classicalhero7
    @classicalhero7 4 роки тому +21

    Never knew this existed. Thanks for the upload.

  • @venta004
    @venta004 3 роки тому +14

    Thank you for uploading this concerto. After all these years listening to Liszt’s concertos this is an absolute rare gem.

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 11 місяців тому

      Repent and trust in Jesus. we deserve Hell for our sins. For example lying, lusing, saying God's name as a cuss word and stealing our just some examples of sin which we can all admit to doing at least one of those. For our sin we deserve death and Hell, but there is a way out. Repent anf trust in Jesus and you will be saved. Repentence is turning from sin. So repent and trust in Jesus. He will save you from Hell, and instead give you eternal life in Heaven.
      John 3:16
      Romans 3:23❤😊❤

  • @abadbriman
    @abadbriman 3 роки тому +9

    It's sad to think I will hardly listen to this concerto live in all my life.

  • @ssprokofiev
    @ssprokofiev 4 роки тому +34

    Strange, but in this work more than in any other by Liszt, you can notice his influence on Wagner. It is well known that Wagner took his harmonies from Liszt. This is exhibit A. Much of it sounds like Wagner well before Wagner sounded like Wagner.

    • @rogercarroll2551
      @rogercarroll2551 4 роки тому +2

      I thought the same thing !

    • @sawney-21
      @sawney-21 3 роки тому +4

      "sounds like Wagner well before Wagner sounded like Wagner" LoL. That fragment crack me up.

  • @christopherT268
    @christopherT268 4 роки тому +20

    For some inexplicable reason I fall for the chord at 9:38-9:39... beautiful chord ever written!

  • @erlandschneck-holze4476
    @erlandschneck-holze4476 4 роки тому +5

    ... a very surprising performance of this unknown work - very idiomatic and in the "right" tempo, with many reflections in the manner of Liszt. Thanks to all artists.

  • @Kikirocy
    @Kikirocy 3 роки тому +8

    7:30 beautiful as always...

  • @jackjackk9894
    @jackjackk9894 4 роки тому +18

    What a beautiful concerto ! ❤🎶

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 11 місяців тому

      Repent and trust in Jesus. we deserve Hell for our sins. For example lying, lusing, saying God's name as a cuss word and stealing our just some examples of sin which we can all admit to doing at least one of those. For our sin we deserve death and Hell, but there is a way out. Repent anf trust in Jesus and you will be saved. Repentence is turning from sin. So repent and trust in Jesus. He will save you from Hell, and instead give you eternal life in Heaven.
      John 3:16
      Romans 3:23❤😊❤

  • @demertzis2694
    @demertzis2694 Рік тому +5

    8:08 - 9:20 so emotional✨

  • @GUILLOM
    @GUILLOM 4 роки тому +38

    Thank you for uploading this underrated masterpiece uwu

  • @jeuxdeau2009
    @jeuxdeau2009 4 роки тому +14

    wow the way he broke into that trill at 5:04 !!!!

  • @StuartSimon
    @StuartSimon 4 роки тому +10

    The theme in D major never gets repeated because the theme of the Andante is the real second subject and is in the correct key for one. The return of the first theme is in the wrong key (B minor), Indeed, when E-flat major comes, its transformation begins a real recapitulation that is compressed but does feature the theme from the Andante with both its halves present.

  • @marcalexandrefontenay9801
    @marcalexandrefontenay9801 3 роки тому +8

    Œuvre oubliée et posthume en avance sur son époque voilà pourquoi Liszt l’avait mise de côté de peur d’effrayer son audience ! Merci au maître Jando de l’avoir enregistrée!

    • @aleksanderkalicki5518
      @aleksanderkalicki5518 3 роки тому +4

      Exact, trop avant-gardiste pour publier son 3ème concerto pour piano.

    • @christianweatherbroadcasting
      @christianweatherbroadcasting 11 місяців тому +1

      Repent and trust in Jesus. we deserve Hell for our sins. For example lying, lusing, saying God's name as a cuss word and stealing our just some examples of sin which we can all admit to doing at least one of those. For our sin we deserve death and Hell, but there is a way out. Repent anf trust in Jesus and you will be saved. Repentence is turning from sin. So repent and trust in Jesus. He will save you from Hell, and instead give you eternal life in Heaven.
      John 3:16
      Romans 3:23😊❤❤❤

  • @davidrehak3539
    @davidrehak3539 4 роки тому +17

    Liszt Ferenc:3.Esz-dúr Zongoraverseny
    1.Andantino - Recitativo del pianoforte 00:00
    2.Andante - tempo primo 05:38
    3.Allegro come prima 11:33
    4.Allegro vivace 12:40
    Jandó Jenő-zongora
    Magyar Állami Hangversenyzenekar
    Vezényel:Lamberto Gardelli

  • @sprechendemulltonne5051
    @sprechendemulltonne5051 4 роки тому +10

    Thanks so much for the upload! Liszt is really a love for live :)

  • @user-ru8vy1uz7c
    @user-ru8vy1uz7c 4 роки тому +4

    Bravo brilliance concerto music super

  • @fulviopolce9785
    @fulviopolce9785 4 роки тому +2

    Risentendolo ,devo riconoscere un concerto di grande qualità,molto melodico in diversi passaggi,oggi parecchio sottovalutato.

  • @handfartgod4537
    @handfartgod4537 4 роки тому +5

    This is absolutely marvellous, thank you for the upload, I also suggest uploading Liszt's four elements (Les Quatre Élémens).

  • @Gargantupimp
    @Gargantupimp 4 роки тому +1

    This music makes me terribly sad. Like dreams lost forever.

  • @Quotenwagnerianer
    @Quotenwagnerianer Рік тому +2

    The first thing that is clear, that if he had revised this, like he usually did, he would have give a tacet to the piano in the first tutti section after the introduction. It makes no sense for orchestra and piano playing all this together.

  • @noblehouse555
    @noblehouse555 4 роки тому +2

    AAC127, thanks as always for you wonderful Liszt postings!

  • @user-sq1ym6ok6i
    @user-sq1ym6ok6i 4 роки тому +8

    I didn't know there is 3rd concerto composed by Liszt

  • @David-mq5sl
    @David-mq5sl 2 роки тому +2

    Feels like it has the youthful exuberance of Saint Saens

  • @kofiLjunggren
    @kofiLjunggren 2 роки тому +3

    5:39 reminds me his theme and variations!

    • @FranzLiszt0904
      @FranzLiszt0904 Рік тому +1

      I think he indeed used that theme for this masterpiece

  • @anaselmaaroud
    @anaselmaaroud 4 роки тому +3

    Top i love it ❤❤

  • @joaquinalfonso9573
    @joaquinalfonso9573 4 роки тому +2

    👏👏👏 yo tenía entendido que Liszt escribió sólo dos conciertos para piano y orquesta

    • @sawney-21
      @sawney-21 3 роки тому +2

      Este es un descubrimiento nuevo. Al parecer, Liszt jamás lo tocó en vida (públicamente, al menos) ni lo publicó, y los manuscritos estaban esparcidos por todas partes. Fue hasta en 1989 que se hizo una publicación completa de este trabajo; por ello es poco conocido y casi no hay grabaciones.

  • @giorgiociomei5030
    @giorgiociomei5030 Рік тому +1

    Ma è bellissimo... A me piace quasi più del primo e del secondo!

  • @benfranklin9519
    @benfranklin9519 4 роки тому +53

    I have this CD. Isn't Jando grossly underrated?

    • @AndreiAnghelLiszt
      @AndreiAnghelLiszt  4 роки тому +23

      Absolutely!

    • @harryrees627
      @harryrees627 4 роки тому +4

      Ben Franklin he is 100% underrated. I have a recording of him playing Bach’s WTC and, honestly, it’s one of my favourite recordings of any work.

    • @benfranklin9519
      @benfranklin9519 4 роки тому +1

      @@harryrees627 I also like that one & the Bach recital disc

    • @Felix_Li_En
      @Felix_Li_En 4 роки тому +5

      @@benfranklin9519 His repertoires are incredibly huge !!!

    • @ArsLonga1967
      @ArsLonga1967 4 роки тому +8

      Vastly underrated. Naxos is a "budget" label so the snobs in Classical music circles tend to think that association tarnishes his standing.. Their loss... Idiots!

  • @campskyle365
    @campskyle365 Рік тому +1

    5:39 theme from 8 variations

  • @fulviopolce9785
    @fulviopolce9785 4 роки тому

    Ottima ricostruzione e ottima e interessante prestazione. Grazie per il caricamento

  • @JAndrade96
    @JAndrade96 2 роки тому +2

    2:20 that sound error 😣
    By the way, this piece is wonderful 🤩

  • @keybawd4023
    @keybawd4023 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you for posting. A really interesting listen. .Though I have to confess that I find the piece 'bitty' - albeit with some beautiful bits, But it's rather like a patchwork, it never seems to go anywhere.

    • @Liszthesis
      @Liszthesis 4 роки тому +2

      since it's not completed i guess, if Liszt had returned to this work later like the other concerti, it might have become a repertoire maybe =))

  • @cziffrathegreat666
    @cziffrathegreat666 9 місяців тому

    Reminds me of rhapsody no 9 quite a lot

  • @q3v1x66
    @q3v1x66 Рік тому +2

    14:09 sounds a bit like a part of dante sonata :)

  • @elionthekeys
    @elionthekeys 4 роки тому +6

    4:45

  • @ShaunakDesaiPiano
    @ShaunakDesaiPiano Рік тому +2

    6:06 a reference to his second concerto?

  • @user-og7hi7ck2u
    @user-og7hi7ck2u 8 місяців тому +1

    dont someone think that the time stamp 4:19 sounds extremely familiar to his mazeppa ending

  • @rakeshkrishna1795
    @rakeshkrishna1795 4 роки тому +4

    @16:01 I don't see those thick double lines that indicate the completion of the piece. And the way Liszt ended this clearly is the place where he might have planned for a transformation (like in his second), this piece is incomplete thus making us sad...

  • @turidemarcodeeustachijs3926
    @turidemarcodeeustachijs3926 4 роки тому +1

    Grazie. Qualche affinità col 3 di Ciaikowskij si intravvede..... è concerto di ricerca, e di dissoluzione del sistema tonale in alcuni punti. Liszt memore della Fantasia cromatica e fuga di Bach. Bello e ciclico. Come la sonata in si min.

  • @stephanjwilliams
    @stephanjwilliams 2 роки тому +2

    Where to find the score to this?

  • @giacomocandoni9727
    @giacomocandoni9727 4 роки тому

    Non sono mai stato un fan sfegatato di Liszt... Ma devo ammettere che alcuni momenti di questo concerto sono parecchio interessanti. Sono piuttosto stupito, certo c' é sempre qualcosa che mi disturba ma questo concerto ha qualcosa di diverso da molte altre opere di Liszt e qualcosa di tremendamente simile al caro buon Wagner in alcuni momenti

  • @manuelbes
    @manuelbes 4 роки тому +2

    Wow I didn't know Liszt had a posth. piece.

  • @szilike_10
    @szilike_10 6 місяців тому +1

    I think at 9:43-10:15, Liszt is sending his regards to Thalberg.

  • @Occitania-vp5fc
    @Occitania-vp5fc Рік тому

    Très maauvais

  • @ゆくちゃんLiszt
    @ゆくちゃんLiszt 2 роки тому +1

    This sheet music is two sheets, isn't it?
    This song is unfinished and seems to have been completed by a liszt researcher
    And it seems that the score was scattered in Budapest, (other places)

    • @FranzLiszt0904
      @FranzLiszt0904 Рік тому +1

      can you explain in a way i could eassily understand pleasee, i got trouble in understanding it thanks

    • @ゆくちゃんLiszt
      @ゆくちゃんLiszt Рік тому +1

      @@FranzLiszt0904 I have the piano sheet music for No. 3, but I don't have the sheet music for the orchestral part of No. 3.

  • @ShaunakDesaiPiano
    @ShaunakDesaiPiano Рік тому +1

    14:26 it can’t just be me who thinks that this is a reference to Mendelssohn’s wedding march.

    • @ukahveci
      @ukahveci Рік тому

      Absolutely true, This is Mendelssohn's wedding march 😅

    • @GUILLOM
      @GUILLOM 7 місяців тому

      It comes from the theme at 5:38

  • @MrDpof
    @MrDpof 4 роки тому +3

    Thanks for the sharing and all the research you've done. Where can I find a copy of the manuscript ? I've to admit that I'm really skeptical that piece was written by Liszt.

    • @AndreiAnghelLiszt
      @AndreiAnghelLiszt  4 роки тому +15

      "The primary source for this Concerto is Liszt's autograph manuscript. Unfortunately, this source is no longer intact, and pages are located in the M. E. Saltikov-Shchedrin State Public Library in Leningrad, the German National Museum in Nuremberg, and the Goethe and Schiller Archive in Weimar. Two folios of the manuscript are missing, and therefore an important secondary source is Gaetano Belloni's [Liszt's secretary and concert manager after 1841] copy, made from the autograph, also located in Weimar."-Dr Jay Rosenblatt, who identified and assembled the Concerto.
      There is no doubt at all that this Concerto is by Liszt. If you would like even more information, please contact Rosenblatt himself (I believe he is at the moment a teacher at University of Arizona).

    • @jerry_moo
      @jerry_moo 4 роки тому +7

      The main recurring theme of this Concerto is taken from Liszt’s own composition, the main theme of his Op. 1 Variations-on which this whole concerto is basically just a giant thematic transformation of it, as suggested by the video description. So yeah, no doubt this is Liszt.

    • @jonaskatona7136
      @jonaskatona7136 3 роки тому +1

      @@jerry_moo yes, but also don't forget that this piece also incorporates a lot of material from his Rondo di Bravura and Allegro di Bravura. In some ways, this concerto is Liszt's transformation and reflection on some of his earliest published works.

  • @FranzLiszt0904
    @FranzLiszt0904 Рік тому

    7:30 this melody sounds familiar, which another piece did Liszt used?

    • @FranzLiszt0904
      @FranzLiszt0904 Рік тому

      (Edit: oh yea its the 8 variations by Liszt)

  • @fulviopolce9785
    @fulviopolce9785 4 роки тому +1

    Affascinante.
    Il 4o concerto di
    Rachmaninov
    è molto simile.......

    • @kofiLjunggren
      @kofiLjunggren 2 роки тому

      How?

    • @ufab9058
      @ufab9058 11 місяців тому

      Can you explain how? Rachmaninoffs 4th is my favorite concerto and I don't see it.

  • @DanielFahimi
    @DanielFahimi 4 роки тому +39

    Jokes on the people who think that Liszt is just virtuosity.

  • @vodkat07
    @vodkat07 3 місяці тому

    3:00 sounds like Liszt sonata

    • @vodkat07
      @vodkat07 3 місяці тому

      4:21 sounds like Liszt symphonic poem mazeppa

  • @gojewla
    @gojewla 4 роки тому +36

    I am annoyed that this was interrupted by a toilet paper commercial.

    • @AndreiAnghelLiszt
      @AndreiAnghelLiszt  4 роки тому +17

      Because this video's audio has been copyright claimed by Hungaroton they run ads on it and I have no say in the matter. Sorry :(
      Btw, if you expand the video's description you will be able to see the copyright claims at the bottom.

    • @gojewla
      @gojewla 4 роки тому +6

      Andrei Cristian Anghel That’s perfectly understandable and not your fault!

    • @user-uu5xf5xc2b
      @user-uu5xf5xc2b 4 роки тому

      @@gojewla but still it bangs right in the middle, it can be more humane. really....

  • @mostsfa780
    @mostsfa780 Рік тому

    Hi

  • @Prometeur
    @Prometeur 3 роки тому

    Why do the strings sound computer generated?

  • @lowlightpiano7110
    @lowlightpiano7110 Рік тому +1

    Repent and trust in Jesus. we deserve Hell for our sins. For example lying, lusing, saying God's name as a cuss word and stealing our just some examples of sin which we can all admit to doing at least one of those. For our sin we deserve death and Hell, but there is a way out. Repent anf trust in Jesus and you will be saved. Repentence is turning from sin. So repent and trust in Jesus. He will save you from Hell, and instead give you eternal life in Heaven.
    John 3:16
    Romans 3:23😊😊😊

  • @ciararespect4296
    @ciararespect4296 Рік тому

    Great i played through it scrolling on my piano but its rubbish really

  • @pikakesky9685
    @pikakesky9685 Рік тому

    liszt piano concert de profundis
    ua-cam.com/video/QodCPRzTH4w/v-deo.html