CORRECTIONS: 19:10 - We aren't blocked. We can push from A4 or B6 to get 4 in a row. 34:59 - This is not true, I am holding a Zertz piece which has to move over other pieces. The move I mention would need to be with a YINSH piece.
Oh wow, they finally did it! I remember 20+ years ago seeing the ambition of the GIPF project. I loved the idea of mixing all these other game pieces into a mega abstract game. So glad that they just released readymade a crossover game finally. ❤
I've heard GIPF mentioned numerous times, but this project was the first time I never delved into what it was. I was pretty overwhelmed at first, but I mostly figured it out I think :)
Thanks to the three Gipf Project Set expansions, the Original Gipf could be combined with all kind of games since ages. Well, actually Gipf Set 1 was released in 1999, but that feels at least as ages ago 🙂
At 14:37 you mention that single pieces need to be removed when part of a four-in-a-row and that this is a difference with Original Gipf. It is not the case. Also in Original gipf all single pieces have to be removed (while double stacked pieces can remain or be removed).
Hey John, I watch your videos for years and it's one of my favorite channels. Learned so many games with you. I wonder if you could share the link of the playmat/table cloth you use on your videos? Appreciate your help. Thanks!
Thanks for the kind words :) Unfortunately, I can't share a link because I didn't buy this online. We simply drove to a Joanne's Fabrics store and looked around until we found this one. We bought a few yards of it, cut it to the table size, and there it has been ever since. That being said, it really could use a wash.
At 35:00, you mentioned that you could unstack a Zertz potential into an empty space without first jumping over at least one piece. That is not true. You must jump over at least one piece. See rule H.2.3.
I don't follow the move you are asking about, do you mind describing it more? To clarify though, any number of DVONN pieces can be stacked on top of one stack, as long as they alternate colors.
@JonGetsGames Most likely I missed something in the earlier rules description, because towards the end you repeated the same thing a few more times. But my question is, black had created the line of four, which means the single black DVONN piece on top was returned to the supply. In a standard line of four, capturing the white DVONN stack of 2 would be optional, but probably a good play at that point in time. Since the black piece had previously been on top, does that mean the white DVONN stack couldn't be captured, or was it still optional?
I think this'll answer your question: A DVONN stacked on top of the opposite color is considered to be one piece, with a separate piece below it of the other color. So the single token piece had to be removed, and you could not remove the white underneath because it wasn't part of the 4 in a row when that scoring happened.
There are a few differences between Original Gipf and Matrx Gipf: the play area of Matrx Gipf is slightly bigger, Matrx Gipf contains only 3 'normal' playing pieces in the box (compared to 18 in the original Gipf), Matrx Gipf contains 15 potentials (zertz, tamsk, ... piaying pieces) compared to Original Gipf that contains none of them. To combine Original Gipf with the 'potentials', i.e. playing pieces with additional powers, you would have to buy a separate set of these 'potential' pieces. The key difference between playing Original Gipf with Potentials and Matrix Gipf is that in the Original Gipf you can decide how many potentials you would like to add and which type. In Matrx Gipf you have always have 3 pieces of potentials of 5 different types.
CORRECTIONS:
19:10 - We aren't blocked. We can push from A4 or B6 to get 4 in a row.
34:59 - This is not true, I am holding a Zertz piece which has to move over other pieces. The move I mention would need to be with a YINSH piece.
Oh wow, they finally did it! I remember 20+ years ago seeing the ambition of the GIPF project. I loved the idea of mixing all these other game pieces into a mega abstract game. So glad that they just released readymade a crossover game finally. ❤
I've heard GIPF mentioned numerous times, but this project was the first time I never delved into what it was. I was pretty overwhelmed at first, but I mostly figured it out I think :)
Thanks to the three Gipf Project Set expansions, the Original Gipf could be combined with all kind of games since ages. Well, actually Gipf Set 1 was released in 1999, but that feels at least as ages ago 🙂
Thank you for this! Very helpful!
At 14:37 you mention that single pieces need to be removed when part of a four-in-a-row and that this is a difference with Original Gipf. It is not the case. Also in Original gipf all single pieces have to be removed (while double stacked pieces can remain or be removed).
51:18 Wouldn't white have won immediately by just pushing the required GIPF piece from G7 to G6?
Yep, I didn't see it! I'm sure I made several such tactical blunders.
Came here to say that exactly!
Hey John, I watch your videos for years and it's one of my favorite channels. Learned so many games with you.
I wonder if you could share the link of the playmat/table cloth you use on your videos? Appreciate your help. Thanks!
Thanks for the kind words :) Unfortunately, I can't share a link because I didn't buy this online. We simply drove to a Joanne's Fabrics store and looked around until we found this one. We bought a few yards of it, cut it to the table size, and there it has been ever since. That being said, it really could use a wash.
At 35:00, you mentioned that you could unstack a Zertz potential into an empty space without first jumping over at least one piece. That is not true. You must jump over at least one piece. See rule H.2.3.
Good catch, looks like I got momentarily mixed up between the Zertz and YINSH effect. Thanks for mentioning it, I've added a correction.
Nice overview and playthrough. Did you script any of it or just make it up as you went along for the moves etc to come out?
No scripting, but lots of thinking between turns and several re-dos as I realized it was going in a direction I didn't want for teaching purposes.
At 19:10, you said Black blocked you, but why wouldn't you place at A4 and push to get four?
Good catch, I did miss that! I'll add a note about it. Thanks for pointing that out.
At 38:38 ish, could black have also taken the white dvonn pieces, or no, since it was double and previously covered?
I don't follow the move you are asking about, do you mind describing it more? To clarify though, any number of DVONN pieces can be stacked on top of one stack, as long as they alternate colors.
@JonGetsGames Most likely I missed something in the earlier rules description, because towards the end you repeated the same thing a few more times. But my question is, black had created the line of four, which means the single black DVONN piece on top was returned to the supply. In a standard line of four, capturing the white DVONN stack of 2 would be optional, but probably a good play at that point in time. Since the black piece had previously been on top, does that mean the white DVONN stack couldn't be captured, or was it still optional?
I think this'll answer your question: A DVONN stacked on top of the opposite color is considered to be one piece, with a separate piece below it of the other color. So the single token piece had to be removed, and you could not remove the white underneath because it wasn't part of the 4 in a row when that scoring happened.
@GettingGames That does answer it, thank you!
Somehow I doubt I will be world champion at this any time soon...🏆
Can you make a video of the differnce between origial GIPF with potentials
Unfortunately, I doubt I could fit something like that in. Sorry!
There are a few differences between Original Gipf and Matrx Gipf: the play area of Matrx Gipf is slightly bigger, Matrx Gipf contains only 3 'normal' playing pieces in the box (compared to 18 in the original Gipf), Matrx Gipf contains 15 potentials (zertz, tamsk, ... piaying pieces) compared to Original Gipf that contains none of them. To combine Original Gipf with the 'potentials', i.e. playing pieces with additional powers, you would have to buy a separate set of these 'potential' pieces. The key difference between playing Original Gipf with Potentials and Matrix Gipf is that in the Original Gipf you can decide how many potentials you would like to add and which type. In Matrx Gipf you have always have 3 pieces of potentials of 5 different types.
I thought it was pronounced “jif”
It's entirely possible I'm saying that one wrong.