I DUG DEEP into the Eurofighter Typhoon Aerodynamics and I found...
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The Eurofighter Typhoon looks different form other fighter jets because it has a particular aerodynamic configuration.
Watch the 3 videos below to learn more about the delta canard configuration.
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Thank god you're finally in a Good shape and kicking ☺️
I know right! I was so excited to hear the good news!
I'm always impressed at how much quality description and analysis you can fit into 10 minutes - excellent stuff as always.
As usual, you make complicated stuff understandable. In 10 minutes we learned a lot of why the Typhoon is the way it is. All with no clickbait, no crap, no sensationalism, no unfair comparisons. Sir, you are the man
Great you are back and healthy. I hope this won't be the lasts video on the typhoon!
I am glad you are back in the air with us but please dont get too tired. We love you.
Good work my dude, cant wait for the rest.
Great to see you at it again. Excellent episode Sir.
U are the number 1 source for real information. This has to be the best channel on the platform.
Pedant alert - a "negative dihedral" is properly called an anhedral.
Man, now he's standing and moving around like in the old videos.👍
Bravo, good to see you back and that frontal analysis of the Typhoon was very illuminating and rightly distracted me from my chores. I remember watching and photographing the EAP in flight and how just a few more feet in length and span made the Eurofighter a much better looking aircraft to my eye. Guess the wing stiffness gives fewer variables to the aerodynamic interaction between canard and delta.
Great to see you back. I wish you all the best. Every time I watch this, I am once again attracted to thermodynamics (though I didn't like it in university)
The eurofighter has also a very good high speed manouverability to "escape" hostile missiles in a BVR fights. Missiles are really inefficient when it comes to turning, so they will lose a lot of speed if the targeted aircraft makes some manouvers. This shortens their effectiv range, so enemy aircrafts have to come closer to the eurofighter to shoot their missiles.
There are always trade-offs with any design. As chief designer of the YF-16, Harry Hillaker, once stated: "The optimum position for canards is on somebody else's aircraft".
This was a cool one. I like it when you go in this direction. I would love it if there was a long episode or series talking about the design philosophy if some of the main fighter families as a way to understand the pros and cons
What a masterpiece of engineering is the Typhoon. The Eurofighter is the only 4.5 gen fighter with a real full CareFree handling, and this gives a real advantage in WVR. Moreover with an A/A load at sea level in ISA +20 cond. the Typhoon accelerates from 200 kts to mach 1 in less than 25 sec. It's not a secret that the Typhoon Tr-4 will be the best 4.5 gen aircraft ever produced. I've heard the tranche 4 will incorporate the Aerodynamic Modification Kit, an upgrade that will increase the maximum lift created by the wing by 25%, angle of attack values + 45% greater than on the standard aircraft, and roll rates up to 100% higher. Finger crossed!
I believe your talking about the LERX (Leading Edge Root Extentions)
To my knowledge this kit is optional and not standard on the T4 Typhoons kind like the Comformal fuel tanks that were never used onthe T3's.
But the. LERX might be good at helping with lower speed maneuverable. It has a negative effect at higher speeds if my memory serves me correctly.
@@bagdaduk it's a more complex aerodynamic mod kit. It was tested few years ago and it will be implemented on tranche 4 and 5.
I have a soft spot for the Euro Canards. Very under rated in my opinion.
Your excellent analysis of the unusual amounts of vortexes on the airframe by design got me thinking if this influenced the name of this vortex-airraft "Typhoon". Maybe a wink form the engeneering department? ^^
The name is historic, its named after an old WWII fighter you might have heard of ...................
@@Blowfeld20k for multinational European fighter project, which includes also ze`Germans, maybe such a name is not pc nor historic but more hum...archaic...just a suggestion.
@@hanskaesbohrer2809
Hasn't that name been pretty much dropped for exactly those reasons?
Not sure why your so aggressively "suggesting" to me m8, since i had nothing to do with the nomenclature, nor did i indicate support for it. Merely pointed out where it came from. Think your ire needs to be pointed elsewhere.
Enjoy
@@Blowfeld20k afaik only the Brits really refer to it as the Typhoon. in Germany its either the Eurofighter Typhoon or just the Eurofighter
I appreciate the integration and transition of the sponsor plug. Well done. The Eurofighter is a cool design. Have you seen the airframe designs in an anime called "Yukikaze?" Very flashy and fun, though material science and aerodynamics wouldn't favor them. I do enjoy them. Thanks for this video.
So great to see you and for another outstanding video!! Be well.
Great vid. Glad to see you back. 🎉
Thank you. Another excellent video. Superb explication and explanation, as always. Back in style! Cheers from NZ🇳🇿.
Excellent video, as always. Very clear and informative.
And so good to see you again!
I know I'n not alone in this: we grow to care about you. Take care and keep it up!
Very nice video and very nice work, as always. Nice to see that you're getting better, take your time.
Great content as always, and Im glad you're back man!!!
I read that the EF was designed to have the smallest possible frontal silhouette, both for a reduced radar signature (from the front) and for less drag and better energy retention.
glad to see you back! cant wait to learn more about this aircraft, i never really got to learn about it
Another great post ! Thank you. I am very happy to see you are doing well 🤗
It's nice to see you up and healthy. You seem to have more energy.
EF stands out as being the canard that is not close coupled with the wing making for less efficient lift, but as mentioned providing more maneuvering torque instead.
Mazel Tov!!!
The prodigal child is back!!! Good to see you back making videos, M7!
Glad you are back at it. Fantastic content as always
Excellent, as usual. Best wishes for your health.
I'll add that before the YF-22 was revealed, publicity sketches showed it with a delta-canard configuration. That even made it into the 1989 flight simulator 'F29 Retaliator'.
So much good news. You’re back! You look great! And…Sponsors!!
Glad to see you are back, stay in good health friend 👍
Good to see you up again!
Good to see you fully back.
Grande !! Bentornato 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
I enjoyed this one very much. Thank You!!!
Glad you are back
Good to see you back on your feet and running it back!
0:54 High wing loading is actually detrimental for flying high. You want low wing loading to fly high.
Great to see you and this is a great video
The typhoon is a fantastic aircraft. It looks mean and beautiful. The recessed missiles sit so much nicer than hanging off pylons. The future replacement aircraft have big shoes to fill.
It’s a big mouthed bastard
The EFT has recessed missiles reducing stress on them and giving a lower RCS profile.
Great video as usual! If I see any of the 3 Euro canard-delta planes in the thumbnail then I WILL be taking a look of your video!
Any chance of a more detailed comparison between the long-coupled canard design of the Typhoon and the close coupled design as used by the Rafale and the Gripen? I will be honest and say that I think the Rafale and Gripen both look better than the Typhoon, and I'm not sure if it's due to the way the positioning of the canards😀
I love your slightly sarcastic, ironic delivery you always have me chuckling 😂
Good health to you
Glad you're back
So happy you’re back
Very good video.
Is there any chance that you make a similar one talking about why you say the flanker has such an efficient design?
Isn't it obvious by looking at it? Especially after watching this video? Just look at the old, statically stable F15 vs the unstable su27. Look at an F16 vs an su27. Look at the eurofighter vs su27.
The Su27 (& mig29) have large cropped delta wings (eurofighter) with blended leading edge root extensions (LERX) like an F16 (which also has cropped delta). The su27 has variable intakes underhung like the f16/eurofighter. Su27 has widely separated engines like the f14 tomcat, becoming a lifting body, aiding fuel efficiency and lowering wing loading.
Glad to see you back.
Really good video
It is good to see you in video . Video is nice , but the important is that you are also nice ! Have a great day captain !!
You look great my friend! I hope you’re feeling much better! I have a request, I just finished reading “air power abandoned” by Robert dorr, can we get an in depth f-22 video on how the Air Force abandoned the upgrades to the f-22 post 2011 and what the new Ares program will be doing to FINALLY make the raptor even more lethal?
Please say something about the difference between long arm canard and close coupled canard. A reason for anhedral in swept wings and delta wings is often to enhance stability in low angeles of attack.
Just like others, very happy to see you in motion.
An excellent video by any measure!
Could you have a video on the tactical reasoning behind the choices about going stealth (even if means sacrificing aircraft performance like agility, range and weapon load) vs. using active EW while maximising other performance & tactical flexibility.
For example, analyse thisp: If you go in with F-35 and the opponent has a good long wave radar system he will know you are there, but does not know exactly where. If you approach with Rafales or Gripens or Eurofighters using active EW the enemy will know you're there, just do not know exactly where.
In this scenario the benefits of passive stealth design seem limited...
Your looking good. Keep up the great videos. Cheers
Of course, the Eurofighter conforms to the area rule.
As the name suggests, it is the *area* rule, not the "side line" rule!
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You are the best, thank you for your great knowledge sharing
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Reason canards were originally installed on the Flanker was actually a forced measure: when uprated radar was installed on Su-27M, it was fat and heavy, even more so than original which itself has exceeded projected maximum weight. That made Flankers instaneneous and sustained turn rates far more sluggish than originally planned, and new radar made it even worse. Hence the canards installation. Combined with original Flankers wing that had very basic control of leading edge flaps (fully retracted/fully deflected) the effect was very significant. For F-15 it was even more profound due to total lack of leading edge flaps. The cost of adding canards to traditional layout is extra weight, complexity, drag and thus fuel penalty, especially supersonic. When Russians made Su-35BM/S, they didn't just add power, but also they installed far lighter avionics, all-new wing with far superior FCS which finely controlled deployment and retraction of all flaps and aerodynamic controls. It also added the thrust vectoring which has far superior controlling effects irrespective of velocity. When Russians deleted the canards, they got the added benefits of reduced drag, lighter nose, less complicated control system that no longer had to actuate the canards. Flankers leading edge wing-root extensions are shaped about as good as one can get for its purposes of vortex generation.
Canards have a known quirk: if the airflow on the canard surface stalls due to AOA, it causes the nose to dip, which in turn INCREASES the AOA of the actual canard surface. Not sure if those blades on the nose help with that issue. For supersonic cruise canard layout is a good thing though as it allows to combat the centre of lift shift when going supersonic
Nice to see you in good health
Welcome back!
Question: The first generation (trench ?) of Eurofighter had a smooth transition
from the Cockpit to the back of the plane, while newer models almost have an F-16 style bubble canopy.
Was that "just" done to improve rear visibility / does it create more vortexes over the back / both ?
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should be interesting to see what the Typhoon can do with the new EJ2x0 engine mod2 The EJ200 has a dry thrust of 60kN and the EJ2x0 mod 2 is more like 78,000kN in full reheat it's a way bigger difference. That will radically increase the power to weight of the Typhoon and I believe increase the service ceiling by 1500m or so. I know one has been tested with the mod 1 EJ 2x0 but no info has been released.
Great video, commenting for the algorithm... Then got carried away... I think it is worth pointing out how aircraft designed with stealth in mind not only prefer not to have canards, but also see less benefit from them. Engine nozzles are hard to make stealthy against radar, and exhaust plumes are bright in IR, so one of the tricks that many aircraft can use is to have extensions along the sides past the engine nozzles*. This means that conventional elevators get more of a lever arm, making them more efficient. You can see this in the F22, a bit in the SU57, and heavily in the F35 and SU75.
*Reduced side visibility has a major tactical impact because it is the aspect where doppler will also be zero. If you want to defeat a missile radar sensor that is the aspect you would chose, because in any other aspect even tiny returns can be detected. Western designers treat it as a special case with very high importance. Incidentally, this makes tail angle extremely important in terms of tactics. A vertical tail might seem like it is extremely bad from this point of view, because it will present a missile with a flat surface, but it isn't quite that simple. At low altitude an attacking missile will probably be looking down at the aircraft. A twin tail design will have one of the tails sloping away, so might actually be closer to perpendicular (Vertical twin tails makes the corner a retroreflector, so are not viable). Unless the tails are significantly tilted like the YF23, low altitude stealth in side aspect can actually be reduced by twin tails. The net effect is that twin tailed stealths want to stay high, single tailed aircraft stay low. Given this, the J20's decisions then start to make some more sense (though may still be wrong). If it is never expected to attempt to defeat a missile by notching at low altitude, it can entirely eschew the typical western emphasis on side visibility. As sensors get better I can see this being reasonable, because running away isn't vulnerable to improving sensors. My guess is that it's tactic is basically to delay early warning as long as possible, launch on the target, then get out of dodge relying on speed for defence. It's stealth is not regarded as a defensive tool.
Good one . While listening I got curious about the engines and upon seeing the thrust I thought F18 , then I looked at the weights of both and thought on paper .... why is the F18 a dog .... I know one is designed to crash into ships but the Typhoon is such a performer . I expected the Typhoon engines to be more powerful being it super cruises . Smart design .
There's really not much difference from configuration between something like an EF2000 and an F16. Both have up-loaded control surfaces in turning flight so trim drag is negligible. The EF has a lower wing loading and the F16 has a higher aspect ratio.
Well the difference in performance is pretty big
In simple planes game I was able to design stable delta canard aircraft with mass center ahead of the aerodynamic center, no fly by wire, and negative dihedrals in both wing and canard. Does negative dihedral translates to stability problems then?
I think a worthy mention for this video would have been the *McDonnell Douglas F-15 STOL/MTD* or *F-15 ACTIVE* - It was an experimental version of the F-15 that had canards. While it never went into production, A lot of the avionics used on it did eventually end up being rolled out to a lot of the F-15s that are flying today.
Only one plane exists making it truly one of a kind. it should be on display down at Edwards air force base unless they have moved it elsewhere.
Would be nice if you could cover the non area rule fuselage in more detail.
Even Delta Canards aircraft looks beautiful 😍❤️ ✈️
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Thank you so much!
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very good video
cool thanks for that tasty snack of aerodynamic goodness...
In terms of RCS, how are canards worse than tailplanes (you need one or the other)? If the answer is that the main wing hides the tailplanes (elevators), then don't the canards hide part of the wing as well... I've never understood this part about canards being bad for RCS.
You are right! But part of radar returen is the deflection of rudders. In modern combat airplanes they compensate for the lack of stability all the time. Beside that weakness, SAAB have a patent on how to minimize the radar return from canards. Why the don't have applied it on Gripen E is unknown to me. I guess it's RCS lowering effect is too small compared with carried weapons.
Thanks to you.
Weird lookin' J-10
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5:30 "negative dihedral" is called Anhedral
Thank for the job , otis's human
Not mentioned in the design of the Typhoon is doctrine it would be used which effected its design. Being used as a defensive interceptor/fighter which dictated less range and weight class compared to US aircraft. In regards to the Typhoon’s lack of stealth characteristics, the canard contributing to its higher RCS. US Studies have shown that once engaged in a dog fight the odds of victory become more even. American doctrine has highlighted stealth in the F22 & F35 in getting into missile range undetected and getting the first shot off. The F15 has a massive radar to detect adversaries at long range. The Typhoon looks have a relatively small radar.
Why not a twin canted tail derivative of the Typhoon or some other delta canard fighter? Would slightly improve stealth, increase lift, and improve roll authority. Slightly more weight but the extra lift would probably provide a net improvement in range as the F-15EX canted tail design option suggested.
Could probably update the engine intakes and ducts at the same time to improve stealth and maintain weight balance by shifting overall engine system weight balance slightly forward.
my fluiddynamic professor was the leading aerodydnamic engineer for the Eurofighter and he once told us that the initial concept of the Eurofighter intended a double tail or v-tail (I'm not sure anymore which one) but it did interfere with the delta wing aerodynamics especially in high alpha domains so they scraped the concept.
How do you think EFT would’ve performed with DSI intakes?
Would you consider doing an introduction to war thunder for people like me who have never ever ever played any online or pc type games ? .
I'm interested but would not have a clue where or how to start .
I have a desktop a phone and a tablet but no consuls or gamebox.
Your radar and aerospace stuff is by far the best available it must give you a headache to think down to normal peoples understanding of such things! Thanks and stay lucky.
Tanks to this video... if there is a video over the SU-34 (a separat viedeo about the Tornado is a nice thing too) all my favorite plane's have min. one video at this cannel (Tornado SU-34 Su-57 and the Eurofighter) Can you make a video to the tactics pro and contra etc. of fighterbomber like SU-34 Tornado strike eagle f111 and su 24
always reminded me of the aircraft off captain scarlet..
Being designed by an international committee also explains the Typhoon's looks.
How so?
Audio quality can be improved, but thank you for this.
What about plasma slats and leading edge elevators?
Hope you are doing well!!!!
so the split air intake is for the boundary layer, but wouldn't that just create another boundary layer on the inside of the intake?
Yes, but it requires some explaining too long for a reply.